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Palestine-msg - 3/25/94


Medieval points of interest in Isreal.


NOTE: See also the files: Jews-msg, Islamic-bib, Byzantine-msg, crusades-msg, Khazars-msg, Arabs-msg, Middle-East-msg, Turkey-msg, Sicily-msg.





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From: nusbache at epas.utoronto.ca (Aryk Nusbacher)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Period Jew-wear in Jerusalem

Date: 12 Dec 1993 10:50:36 -0500

Organization: EPAS Computing Facility, University of Toronto


fnklshtn at ACFcluster.NYU.EDU writes:

>In conversation I found out that this was a medieval Talit Katan and he got

>it at a store in Jerusalem which sells medieval styled clothing and acceso-



>Does anyone know about this store?


Check out the Cardo in the Jewish Quarter:  it's a restored section of

Roman shopping street with nifty shops and a Roman restaurant.


There is also a group of (loonies?) (fanatics?) (zealots?) who are

preparing for the Messiah by building all the temple furniture, breeding

temple animals, and weaving priestly and levitical clothing.  They will

sell you an entire suit of second-temple vestments based on Talmudic



>While on the subject of Israel -

>aside from the ruins, are there any artifacts around or did they all go

>off to Britain when the Brits were in charge?

>(specifically, I'm thinking armour)


Armour in particular, and mediaeval artifacts in general, are of

peripheral interest at best to Israeli archaeologists. There is some

Byzantine stuff kicking around in some museums, but don't expect to

see a lot of Byzantine, Mameluke, Kurd, or Crusader operational kit.


Places to visit include:


Beit Shean:  The Byzantine city of Scythopolis was destroyed by an

earthquake, and before the Greeks could rebuild, the Persians invaded.

So the city was never rebuilt -- until now.  They're rebuilding it,

stone on stone, including the drainage systems.


Akko:  When the Mamelukes took the last city in Outremer, they built

another city on top of it.  The hall of the Templars was made into a

water cistern, and the complex of the Hospitallers was filled with

rubble.  Well, it's all being dug out now, and lots of it is in great

shape.  Akko also has a beautiful and clean Arab market, and nifty

Napoleonic fortifications.


Nimrod's Fortress:  This crusader castle in the Golan was rebuilt

after it was taken, and is in terrific shape, including a cool secret

exit.  It is perched on top of a peak in the Hermon range, and it

looks like a castle from the cover of a fantasy novel.


Caesarea:  Beside the Roman digs are excavations of the Crusader city

of Caesarea.  The walls, moats, and gate houses are in great shape.

I've used the site as a background for a lecture in mediaeval






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