Turkey-msg - 12/9/99
Period Turkey. Culture, history.
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:49:38 -0500
From: "Decker, Terry D." <TerryD at Health.State.OK.US>
Subject: RE: SC - turkish food in the North
> At 3:16 PM -0400 5/24/99, Varju at aol.com wrote:
> >The Turks arrived into Asia Minor at a much later
> >date, wiping out what remained of the Byzantine Empire. They established the
> >Ottoman Empire which expanded through much of the near and far east and as
> >far north as Hungary by 1527.
>
> I think you are confusing the Turks in general with the Ottoman Turks.
> Other groups, especially the Seljuks, came much earlier; when the First
> Crusade went through Anatolia, it was fighting Turks. I'm not sure if the
> earliest Turkish incursions in Anatolia were as early as the Magyar
> incursions, but they can't have been a lot later.
>
> David/Cariadoc
The original Turks were people who spoke Turkic, the tribes who inhabited
Turkistan, the area between the Caspian and China, the Aral and Afganistan.
Beginning in the 9th Century, some of these tribes moved into the Byzantine
Empire and Central Europe. This migration was the one that forced the
Magyars from the Caucasus to Hungary.
In the 11th Century, the Seljuk Turks conquered and established a dynasty
which ruled Turkistan and Asia Minor. The Seljuk fortunes waned in the 13th
Century and their empire broke up into a number of Turkish states. The
Ottomans began their expansion as the Seljuk Empire collapsed and by the
14th Century, they had established the Ottoman Empire. The dynasty was
formally established in 1290. On March 3, 1924, Kemal Mustafa, president of
Turkey, abolished the caliphate and banished all members of the House of
Osman, formally terminating the Ottoman rule.
Bear
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 02:59:54 EDT
From: Varju at aol.com
Subject: Re: SC - turkish food in the North
According to Stuart Legg in _The Barbarians of Asia_ the Seljuk Turks began
their push into the Byzantine Empire in the mid 1000's. The Magyars arrived
in 895 CE were defeated in the Battle of the Lechfield in 955 CE and began to
accept Christianity aroun 1000 CE.
I will have to check, but I believe the Ottoman Turks may be the decendants
of the Seljuk Turks, but i need to double check my sources on that one.
Noemi
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