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saints-msg - 12/28/04

Medieval saints. Referances.

NOTE: See also the files: religion-msg, icons-msg, Icons-art, p-bibles-msg,  rosaries-msg, burials-msg, monks-msg, popes-msg, relics-msg.


This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday.

This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org

I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter.

The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors.

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Thank you,
    Mark S. Harris                  AKA:  THLord Stefan li Rous
                                          Stefan at florilegium.org

From: sclark at epas.utoronto.ca (Susan Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Saints Preserve Us!
Date: 23 Dec 1993 16:28:11 -0500
Organization: EPAS Computing Facility, University of Toronto

The subject line is the title of an incredibly fun
book I picked up while down in Ohio.  It gives an alphabetical
listing of a whole heap of major saints, along with their areas of
patronage, etc, a listing of feast days and name saints.  Now all of them
are not medieval--but their death years are often given,
as close as p[ossible, along with when they were canonized (if it
is noteworthy).
(I had no idea that Hilary of Poitiers was the patron
of both backward children AND lawyers.....)
Anyhoo, the book is _Saints Preserve Us!_ by Sean Kelly
and Rosemary Rogers (Random House, 1993).  Cost me $10 in Ohio...
two thumbs up....

Canton of Eoforwic
sclark at epas.utoronto.ca

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: ab575 at FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rebecca Cairns)
Subject: Re: Saints Preserve Us!
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 19:10:20 GMT

>>_Saints Preserve Us!_ by Sean Kelly and Rosemary Rogers (Random House, 1993).
>>Cost me $10 in Ohio...
>Where did you shop in Ohio, anyway? It sounds like you scored big on books!

Doesn't matter where you live.  Barnes & Noble lists this book in their latest
catalogue (page 34, item #1956846).  Same price ($10 US).  Their order phone
number is 1-800-242-6657.  Open Mon.-Fri. 9-9, Sat.9-5 E.S.T.  Their Canadian
address is (sorry, they don't list their US address in the issue I received):
   Barnes & Noble,
   2660 Meadowvale Blvd., Unit 11,
   Mississauga, Ontario
   L5N 6M6
Such an intriguing front cover as well as title: Father in the background
(driving suitable '50s automobile), Dick, Jane and Spot in the foreground
with a Renaissance angel (or is that Mother dressed as an angel?)  Guess
I'll have to get the book and see!  Hope this helps anyone else interested.

For more of a B&N teaser, how 'bout these titles:
Scottish Highlanders, The Story of the Irish Race, Ancient and Medieval
Warfare, Tudor Queens and Princesses, Everyday Life Through The Ages,
The Medieval Builder, Swords and Hilt Weapons, The Knights Templar,
The Inquisition, In Spanish Prisons, Celtic Mythology, The Celtic Tradition ...
The list goes on ...  and you thought your Drastic Plastic might have a
chance to cool down after Christmas <grin, grin>!  Happy hunting, everyone!

*  SCA: Isabella Oakwood              |                                     *
*       Barony of Skraeling Althing,  |      "I hear and I forget,          *
*       Ealdormere, Midrealm          |       I see and I remember,         *
*  MKA: Rebecca Cairns                |       I do and I understand."       *
*       Kanata, Ontario  Canada       |                 - Confucius.        *
*  NET: ab575 at FreeNet.carleton.ca     |                                     *

Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:04:50 -0400
From: mermayde at juno.com (Christine A Seelye-King)
Subject: SC - St. Swithin

For the gentle who was looking for information about Swithin's Cream, I
thought you might be interested in information about St. Swithin.

July 2nd
St. Swithin's Feast Day (862) Patron Saint of and Invoked against Rain.
Bishop of Winchester, he was renowned for good deeds.  His most popular
miracle was to restore a peasant woman's basket of broken eggs to whole.

(ed. note - perhaps this connection to eggs is where the cream gets it's

July 15th
St. Swithin's Day (971) Patron Saint of and Invoked against Rain.
English Bishop, he loved the rain and requested to be buried in the
churchyard where it would fall on his grave.  After his death in 862, he
was canonized in 971, and in honor of this his relics were to be moved to
be enshrined inside the Cathedral at Winchester.  Rain delayed transition
of his relics to a new site, so now tradition has it that if it rains on
this day, it will rain for 40 more days.  (Feast Day July 2)

        Mistress Christianna

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:58:33 -0600
From: Marc Carlson <marc-carlson at utulsa.edu>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: Working with wool - reproducing fabrics

At 09:06 AM 10/27/98 EST, <Broccan> wrote:
>Ok, i bite!   what is st. brigid's cloak???

St. Birgitta of Sweden, when she died, left a number of garments behind as
relics.  One of these was a pile of blue woolen scraps that were eventually
reassembled into a "cloak".  The same pieces were also found to be
assembleable into a dress.

I. Marc Carlson

Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 00:31:26 -0500
From: Karen at stierbach.atlantia.sca.org (Larsdatter, Karen )
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: reference: web site list of popes

> Does anyone know of a calendar with a list of medieval Catholic holidays? I
> would be very much interested in one for making scrolls, so I know which
> holiday the particular event the award will be given out at, falls closest
> to.

There are two I find useful:

(Medieval?) Online Calendar of Saints' Days

Modern Catholic saints' days ...

Eastern rite has a whole nother calendar of saints' days, doesn't it?

Karen Larsdatter

Subject: ANST - URL for patron saints
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 99 07:06:02 MST
From: "Jane Sitton-Logan/James D. Logan" <myrnarae at nts-online.net>
To: Ansteorran mailing list <ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG>

Bon jour from Madelina de Lindesaye!

While doing some research today, I came across the following page:

I thought I'd share this, as some of you might be interested.

We are considering the following name for the metalworker's guild,
we we get it re-activated:  The Worshipful Company of Saint Eligius.

You would be amazed at what for which there is actually a patron
saint!  (breastfeeding??)


Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 07:30:52 MST
From: Pug Bainter <pug at pug.net>
Subject: Re: BG - gloves
To: bryn-gwlad at ansteorra.org

N.D. Wederstrandt (nweders at mail.utexas.edu) said something that sounded like:
> Paron saints of gloves and glovemakers.....
> Saints Crispian, Mary Magdalene, and Gummarus.

Let's go with Mary Magdalene!!! She is patron saint of other fine folks
as well.
Phelim "Pug" Gervase   | "I want to be called. COTTONTIPS. There is something
Bryn Gwlad - Ansteorra |  graceful about that lady. A young woman bursting with
Dark Horde Moritu      |  vigor. She blinked at the sudden light. She writes
pug at pug.net            |  beautiful poems. When ever shall we meet again?"

Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:54:15 -0800 (PST)
Frm: Christiane <christianetrue at earthlink.net>
Subject: [Sca-cooks] St. Agatha cakes
To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

A friend of mine did a semi-mundane subtlety for omeone whose arms
include St. Agatha, who is generally depicted carrying her breasts on a

The subtlety consisted of two dome-shaped red velvet cakes over  flat
circular red velvet cakes, both filled with vanilla pudding and iced in
white and pink.
The first wasn't so shocking, apparently-- but several people came late to
the party and didn't see the two cakes together, thus failing to
recognize the iconography. When they cut into the second cake and the
pudding came squirting out, they were _ver_ disconcerted. :)

-- Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika jenne at fiedlerfamily.net

What an appropriate subtlety, because St. Agatha was the patron saint  
of bakers in the Middle Ages in Italy. Because her breasts on a plate  
looked like, well, cakes.

Her feast day is the main one in Catania in Sicily. Nuns there have  
made marzipan-covered cakes called minne de vergine. A good picture of  
them can be found here.


Love those cherry "nipples!"


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