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Roman Catholic Popes in period.

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From: hag at moose.uvm.EDU (Hope A. Greenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Popes
Date: 5 Aug 1993 16:17:09 -0400
Organization: The Internet

In answer to the Pope John XXIII question and for anyone who cares to have
it as a reference, I'm sending along a list of Popes. They start with
Boniface VIII, he who ticked off Philip IV of France with the bull unam
sanctam stating, among other things, that church heads had power over
secular heads, for which trouble he got himself hauled off to France.
By the way, the general impression that most people have is that the
French kings held the popes captive in Avignon for the next 70 years.
Actually, Clement V, albeit a frenchman, was on his way to Rome when,
due to the disastrous state of Roman politics, rioting, etc. stopped
at Avignon until things cooled down. The rest, as the cliche goes, is
history.

As you can see if you look at the dates, from 1378 on there were two popes
and from 1409-1417 there were three. The current church does not recognize
the last two Avignon popes (Clement VII, Benedict XIII) or the schism
popes (Alexander V, John XXIII), thus, when the next pope who took the
name John was elected, he was known as John XXIII.

Rome (Italian):              Avignon:                     Schism:
Boniface VIII   1294-1303
Benedict XI     1303-1304
                             Clement V      1305-1314
                             John XXII      1316-1334
                             Benedict XII   1334-1342
                             Clement VI     1342-1352
                             Innocent VI    1352-1362
                             Urban V        1362-1370
                             Gregory XI     1370-1378
Urban VI        1378-1389    Clement VII    1378-1394
Boniface IX     1389-1401    Benedict XIII  1394-1417
Innocent VII    1404-1406
Gregory XII     1406-1415                              Alexander V 1409-1410
                                                       John XXIII  1410-1415
Martin V        1417-1431
Eugenius IV     1431-1447
Nicholas V      1447-1455
Calixtus III    1455-1458
Pius II         1458-1464
Paul II         1464-1471
Sixtus IV       1471-1484
Innocent VIII   1484-1492
Alexander VI    1492-1503
Pius III        1503
Julius II       1503-1513
Leo X           1513-1521
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Hope A. Greenberg       hag at moose.uvm.edu
Academic Computing      "There is not a cup of tea too large, an armchair
University of Vermont    too comfortable, or a book too long."  - C.S. Lewis

Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:22:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Jenne Heise <jenne at tulgey.browser.net>
To: Shire of Eisental <eisental at tulgey.browser.net>,
SCA Arts list <sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: reference: web site list of popes

Sometimes it's useful to know who was pope when. Though this site doesn't
give a full listing (it kinda skimps on the double and triple popes!),
it's a handy quick reference. Note that it is written by a Catholic
priest, though.

(Review from LIIWEEK):
Popes Through the Ages: The Complete List of Popes -
http://www.knight.org/advent/ppindx.htm

Biographical information on all 265 Popes of the Roman Catholic Church,
from 32 AD to the present. The entry for Pope John Paul II has a list of
links to his online speeches and writings.

Jadwiga Zajaczkowa (Shire of Eisental; HERMS Cyclonus), mka Jennifer Heise
jenne at tulgey.browser.net

Subject: ANST - Papal infallibility
Date: Mon, 17 May 99 08:09:04 MST
From: "Paul Mitchell" <pmitchel at flash.net>
To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG

Galen of Bristol here...
>Actually, the doctrine of papal infallability was not added to Roman Catholic
>dogma until 1870. So, infallability on the part of anyone is not period.
>
>Pippa

Sorry, no. The doctrine of papal infallibility was formally defined,
not originated, at the 1st Vatican Council in 1870. The doctrine itself
was espoused by many Christian authors dating from the 2nd century,
notably including St. Augustine in the 4th century, who wrote of an
extant controversy, "Rome has spoken, the matter is settled."

Much more information about the history of Catholic and Christian
faith is available on links from <http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ24.HTM>;.

- Galen
practicing Catholic (sooner or later I hope to get it right)