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Medieval bagpipes. Use in the SCA.

 

NOTE: See also the files: Bagpip-Dsguis-art, Bagpipe-Tips-art, drums-msg, instruments-msg, recorders-msg, SI-songbook1-art, harps-msg, trumpets-msg, Scotland-msg, Ireland-msg.

 

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From: GRS999910118 at stat.appstate.EDU

Date: 3 Jul 91 12:46:00 GMT

 

Unto the Rialto, Does Niall MacFarlane send greetings!

 

      The Bagpipes started development originaly in India at about 3000 bc

. from India it slowly spread to the middle east where it picked up

the base drone. from here it was picked up by the Romans when they

conquered the area. From the romans it spread to damn near everyone else.

 

There are period examples of bagpipes ranging from the slavic peoples

in the east, to spanish bagpipes, french, german, and variations

of each within each country. The bagpipes that we know today

(the Irish and Scottish types) arrived on the scene at about

900 A.D. when the Irish developed a two drone set with a somewhat irregular

chanter. This was followed by the Highland Bagpipe developed by the scottish peoples at about 1000 A.D. This example is the prototype of the modern

Great highland Bagpipes of today. From Scotland, suprisingly, it spread later

in late period to scandinavian countries and Poland, where Scottish mercinaries

spread the highland bagpipes around.

 

As far as Northumbrian and Uillian pipes are concerned, I am not terribly

sure they are period.. I'll have to look that up.

 

If anyone needs any info on bagpipes, I can dig into my refernce library

(I would not, but my editor is not working, and its just too early in the morn

ing...) eeek... make that would now.. not would not..

and find info for you...

 

Ld Niall MacFarlane

Pipemajor of the Atlantian Guild for Bagpiping and Drumming

among other strange things

 

 

From: ansteorra at eden.com (7/20/95)

To: ansteorra at eden.com

RE>A couple more questions

 

On 20 Jul 95 at 10:06, Mark Harris wrote:

> >>4) (To non-fighters) What could fighters do to make things more

> >>interesting for you in a war?

>

> >Drums.  Really *GOOD* D&C leading to proper unit formations.

>

> But not drums ALL day and ALL night!

>

> And bagpipes! That's what they were originally used for, no?

> (In period, they were not confined to use by the Scots.)

 

Indeed not.  I have an period example of a poem about a Welsh Harper

lamenting the fact that an *English* piper was brought in to do a

wedding.

 

Paul Shore                       | shore at pp.okstate.edu

Computing & Information Services | Voice (405) 744-5888

Physical Plant                   | Fax   (405) 744-6195 5888

Oklahoma State University        | http://www.pp.okstate.edu/

 

 

From: bagpiper at aol.com (Bagpiper)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Bagpipers at 3YC

Date: 28 Sep 1995 02:10:09 -0400

Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

 

In a response, Michiel Mac a'Chombiach de'Lancey said,

>  Just to add my two cents in defense of the gentels who wish to form a band

>  at 3yc.  One of the said pipers is Colin Galbreth from the Barony of Madrone.

>  I know for a fact that it is his habit when performing period music for the

>  SCA to plug the middle drone.

 

Greetings!

     I am the gentle who came up with the idea of having a "period" band

at 3yc, and I must say that I have managed to spark quite the conversation

concerning piping, drumming, bands, and what's period (and what's not).  

Item 1.  The fact is, Scottish pipe and drum bands did not become common

until after the defeat of the Scots after the 1746 rebellion.  These bands

appeared after the Scottish Regiments of the Royal Army (mostly Campbell

and Frasers from the Argyll region) were formed.  In fact, only pipers

serving King William ( and successive Kings ) were allowed to wear kilts

or play the pipes during the clearances (1746 to 1764). This does not

contradict the fact that pipers have been playing pipes of various forms (

Northumbrian, two drone and one drone great pipes, and parlor pipes ) for

centuries.  Images of pipers graven in stone can be seen at the Roslyn

Chapel, which was built in 1440.  Clan tradition has it that the Menzies

and MacDonalds had pipers playing the tune "Hey, Tuttie Tattie!" at

Bannockburn in 1314.  (This tune is now immortalized as Robert Burns

famous poem "Scots Wha Hae Wi' Wallace Bled", which is known to the modern

piping community as "Bruce's Address at Bannockburn.)

Item 2.  It is true that the bagpipe has moved higher up the scale in

pitch.  In fact, Low A on the chanter averages approximately 459 - 462 bps

(frequency).  This is very close to A sharp (467 bps), while modern

orchestral A is approximately 440 bps.  However, while this does change

the pitch of the "Great Pipes", (those pipes designed to be played out of

doors), an unenlightened listener would have great difficulty telling the

difference between an early chanter from two or three centuries ago and a

modern one.

Item 3:  I have seen images reputed to be from 1400 through 1600 that show

two drone pipes (Scottish, English and Irish).  In these images, you will

find sets which have two tenor (small) drones, as well as sets with one

tenor and one bass (tall) drone.  The research I have done indicates that

the bass drone was not commonly used in Scottish pipes until nearly 1730,

while it was apparently often used in the Lowlands, Borders, and England

up to two centuries earlier.

Item 4:  So, it can be argued effectively that there was really no such

thing as a "period" pipe and drum band.

 

      To be honest, when I first came up with this idea, what I really

wanted was a pipe and drum band composed of about six pipers, and several

drummers (maybe a bass, a tenor, and a couple of snares) which was clothed

in garb more appropriate to our setting.  (Prince Charlie Jackets, Ties,

and Glengarry's are definitely not period!)  I still think this will be

the main direction I go.  I have two reasons for this.   First, since we

will have no opportunity to practice together prior to the event, we will

need to play tunes which are common to most modern pipers. It would be

very difficult to learn "period" pieces as individuals, then try to

assimilate them into one group effort.  Second, "period" bands would

probably not have drummers.  Who am I to say that drummers should not

participate in this group effort?  

     This is not to say that those who play period instruments can't come

and play.  I have been talking with William Gority, and he has me darn

near talked into manufacturing or purchasing a period instument.  I am

just trying to do something here that will get the maximum number of

people to come out and show off their talent.  In this, I hope to be

successful.

 

All responses are gratefully accepted!  E-mail me at bagpiper at aol.com, or

post a response here.  

 

In service to the Dream,

HL Ulrich Paulus von Stassheim

Glen Van Steeter

 

bagpiper at aol.com (Glen Van Steeter, aka Lordship Ulrich Paulus von

Stassheim)

 

 

From: Steve Hendricks <steve at aimetering.com>

To: 'bryn-gwlad at eden.com'

Subject: RE: bagpipes

Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:08:13 -0600

 

Well, I guess I'll comment, too.  I generally refrain from bagpipe

player discussions, since they are often viewed (by others - not me!) as

the musician equivalent of lawyers.  For example, you've probably heard

the old definition of a gentleman as one who knows how to play the

bagpipes, but doesn't.

 

Anyway, I had to take a small amount of exception at Stefan's assertion

that bagpipes "are meant to be loud."  And that most were "battlefield

instruments."

 

Actually there are many types of bagpipes.  They may have descended from

bladder pipes, which were originally single chanters with bladders, and

were in turn descended from open-reed pipes.  In these pipes, the reeds

were held between the lips like a medieval shawm or a modern oboe or

bassoon.  Iconography of the period does not suggest that these pipes

were used much in battle.  In fact, there are more pictures of monks

playing them in medieval times than there are of any war scenes.

 

In general, bagpipes may have been used by shepherds as much as by

warriors.  They were certainly employed for dancing.  And they were used

in courts, too, as well as at outdoor events.

 

The highland pipes, which can be very, very loud, were employed on the

battlefield.  But the Irish pipes and the English pipes (and perhaps

other variations - I don't know about pipes on the continent) were

generally not so painfully loud.  I am no expert on the bagpipes (the

"Piper" of my last name does not refer to an ability to play the

bagpipes), but I have been fortunate enough to hear some lovely softer

pipes played here and there.  I am not familiar with any bagpipers in

the SCA who play the softer pipes.

 

For any prospective pipers, I might recommend looking into these other

bagpipes if you would wish to invest in something you could easily play

in the general vicinity of your living quarters.

 

At home, I have the address of a maker of English pipes who was

recommended to me by James Merriweather of the York Waits. Mr.

Merriweather says that this person is the _only_ pipe maker to consider

for English pipes.  The York Waits own several sets of his pipes and

they all sound wonderful - even when played together.  In fact, I have

heard 5 of them played together from about 15 feet away and my ears did

not even ring afterwards.  If anybody out there would be interested in

owning a great set of softer, English pipes, email me and I will look up

the maker for you.

 

After all, I intend to buy a set right after I get a tenor viol, a

better treble viol, a couple of lutes, a tenor shawm, a dulcian, and

perhaps a keyboard.  Oh, and maybe a harp.  So your ears are safe from

me for some time to come...

 

>>Haven't more songs been written for the pipes than the same half dozen

>>>we always seem to hear?

 

Actually, most that we tend to hear played on the bagpipes are not

period pieces anyway - "Scotland the Brave" being a flagrant

period-bender.

 

Relatively few period pieces indicate what instrument(s) they are

written for.

Fortunately, almost any period music can be played on bagpipes, since

most medieval and renaissance instruments had a more limited range (as

do bagpipes) than modern instruments.  There is a lot of period music

available to be played on the pipes.

 

Samuel Piper

who now prefers to play strings, oddly enough

 

 

From: <ges95kll at studserv.uni-leipzig.de>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Other Pipes (was: Uilleann Bagpipes)

Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 09:14:44 +0200

Organization: Uni Leipzig

 

Being a period piper myself, I wanted to let you all know that there is a

builder in Berlin Germany who makes a wide range of instruments including

most of the Praetorius pipes, a medieval (1500's) flemish pipeseveral of

the french models which are still in use today in french folk music plus a

variety of other pipes (including Uillean pipes, which as far as I know

date form the early 18th century). He is:

 

Bodo Schulz

Garibaldistrasse 42/44

D-13158  Berlin

Germany

 

If you write him, he will be more than happy to send you whatever info you

want, in english too!

 

And by the way, I paid a little over $1,000 each for both of my pipes.

 

See you at the double wars.

 

der ehemaliger Brock, O.L., etc...

(aka "Prof. Michael, Wolgemut)

Michael H. Gartner

Universitaet Leipzig, Deutschland

 

 

Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 15:39:17 -0400

From: Joe Hayes <jhayes at compuserve.com>

Subject: Re: Early Bagpipes

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

 

Zane Bruce wrote:

>  I am interested in finding out what variety of bagpipe would have been

>  played by people of anglo-scandinavian stock, between about 850 to 1000

 

Check out the Sweedish Bagpipes on the following web pages:

 

http://www.docs.uu.se/~crwth/bagpipes/swedish/

http://www.mhs.mendocino.k12.ca.us/MenComNet/Business/Retail/Larknet/Bagpipes

 

Ulrich

 

 

From: Isaac Alderson <alderson at ripco.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Early Bagpipes

Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 21:21:44 -0500

 

I believe the first use of two drones was in a Celtic bagpipe of some sort,

illustrated by Praetorius. I think "By the Sword" sells them. Another good

place to look would be "Ancestral Instruments". The URL was recently posted.

--

Isaac Alderson

"Bagpipes are my friends."

 

 

From: "sunshinegirl" <sunshinegirl at steward-net.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Uilleann Bagpipes

Date: 4 May 98 02:06:56 GMT

Organization: Southwestern Bell Internet Services, Richardson, TX

 

Isaac Alderson <alderson at ripco.com> wrote in article

<354CE54F.E2EB3C6A at ripco.com>...

>.  SNIP

>     So, to elaborate on my question, would specifically the *Irish Uilleann

> Bagpipes* be accepted as a "period" instrument?

 

> Isaac Alderson

> "Bagpipes are my friends."

 

From _A treasury of Irish Folklore_  edited by Padraic Colum

 

"The Irish pipes of today are the result of an evolution of the military,

or marching, pipe, which , as near as I can learn, resembled the present

Scotch pipe.  Its beginning dated from the latter part of the sixteenth

century.  History is silent as to the name of the ingenious individual who

transformed the pipe from its primeval state into a superior musical

instrument, which has been called the "Irish organ" and "the sweetest of

all reed instruments.".....The Irish union pipes is a parlor or social

instrument, not louder than a violin."  The book goes on to speak of the

bellows, reeds, quills, chanter, and regulators of the Irish pipe,

 

Assuming that the Irish pipes described in this book are the same as your

Uillean pipes, then yes, they have been around since the sixteenth century,

making it late period for us.

 

Melandra of the Woods

 

 

From: Isaac Alderson <alderson at ripco.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Uilleann Bagpipes

Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 00:24:18 -0500

 

sunshinegirl wrote:

> The Irish union pipes is a parlor or social

> instrument, not louder than a violin."  The book goes on to speak of the

> bellows, reeds, quills, chanter, and regulators of the Irish pipe,

> Assuming that the Irish pipes described in this book are the same as your

> Uillean pipes, then yes, they have been around since the sixteenth century,

> making it late period for us.

 

Yep, that's them. Thanks a bunch. "Union", I'll note here, is another English

corruption of "uilleann", pretty much mispronounced. The earlier forms of the

uilleann pipe, however, are now commonly referred to as "union pipes",

supposedly for the union of sounds. This is a little different than the current

modern version in configuration of drones and regulators and bass drone design.

I guess I'll get by, though. Thank you!

--

Isaac Alderson

"Bagpipes are my friends."

 

 

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From: "Psycho Dave" <psycho at weirdcrap.com>

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How many pipers out there would be interested in my 13th century

Cantigas Bagpipes?

 

You can see them on my Myspace page:

 

http://www.myspace.com/priscus_forem

 

The song you hear playing (if you turn the volume up) was done with

those bagpipes (The second section, with the drums and guitar is

unaltered).

Click on "Pics" under the bagpipe image to see other photos, and "Blog"

to read details about my pipes and piping experiences.

 

My pipes should retail for around $200, but I would prefer to sell them

only to experienced pipers who already know how to play GHB-size pipes.

These are basically just a little bit easier than a GHB to blow. They

are made in Pakistan, but packaged for me with plastic drone reeds, a

carrying case, higher quality cowhide bag (not seasoned on the outside

in a baggie, like so many other Pakistani pipes), and all the

accessories you need to get started.

 

It should take a couple of months before they are available. If I know

how many people are interested, I can change the size of the order. My

first order will be just a couple of sets to check for quality, and to

see what I'd need to do prior to selling them (like removing the

excelsior packing, and putting the parts together from separate boxes,

etc). The basic pipes are Cocus wood, which is actually almost as good

as blackwood. Blackwood versions of the pipes are available, but for

about $100 extra.

 

Thanks!

 

 

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Steve Hix a écrit :

> In article <1145461686.076307.74110 at j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

>  "Psycho Dave" <psycho at weirdcrap.com> wrote:

>

>> How many pipers out there would be interested in my 13th century

>> Cantigas Bagpipes?

>> 

>> You can see them on my Myspace page:

>> 

>> http://www.myspace.com/priscus_forem

>

> Sorry; I'm interested in medieval bagpipes, but not at all interested in

> signing on with Myspace just to see/hear the video.

 

No need to sign in, the music starts as soon as you open the page.

 

 

--

Greetings, Salutations,

Guiraud Belissen, Château du Ciel, Drachenwald,

Chris CII, Rennes, France

 

 

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dpeters at panix.com (D. Peters) writes:

>That's true--but I'd like to see more photos of the instrument, and when

>you click the "Pics" link, it asks you to sign in....

try: http://bugmenot.com/view.php?url=www.myspace.com

 

good luck

 

 

--

May no harm befall you,

flip

Ich habe keine Ahnung was das bedeutet, oder vielleicht doch?

Remove origin of the word spam from address to reply (leave "+")

 

 

From: "Psycho Dave" <psycho at weirdcrap.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Medieval Bagpipes

Date: 20 Apr 2006 06:34:39 -0700

 

Right now, that photo is the only one I have. I plan on taking a few

pictures over the weekend. Gimme some requests of what you'd like

pictures of. I was planning on:

 

(1) Close-ups of the drone-stocks with a ruler near it.

(2) Close-up of the chanter

(3) Close-up of the drone reeds I ship with them

(4) Maybe a picture of someone playing them for scale

 

Right now I only have my own pipes, which have decorations, and a

synthetic bag. I am waiting for my next shipment to arrive with the

leather bag, so that I can take pictures of the actual product. I also

plan to do some playing on one of them to ensure that they sound as

good as the first one I got, and that all the parts I am putting

together in the kit are correct.

 

I have a choice for the seasoning. I can provide the cheap seasoning

that comes free with many bagpipes -- the yellow blobby stuff that

comes in a semi-clear plastic bottle with crudely printed labels, or I

can include some Hardies Airtight Seasoning, but that costs $15 a jar.

Do any of the pipers out there object to the cheap seasoning, or do you

think I can get more customers with Hardies?

 

 

From: "Psycho Dave" <psycho at weirdcrap.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Medieval Bagpipes

Date: 23 Apr 2006 07:40:27 -0700

 

Mark S. Harris wrote:

> Oh? What is the difference(s) between medieval pipes and what

> folks might routinely find available today? What type(s) of bagpipes

> do you play?

 

Mostly, it's only one or 2 drones. America seems only aware of

Scotsmen in kilts and their distinctive 3-drone, high pitched

bagpipes.

 

Few people even consider that bagpipes exist in other cultures and

countries. This is likely due to the predominance of white anglo-saxon

culture in our country. The Scottish HIghland bagpipes are actually the

second most modern of bagpipes, invented in the late 1600s and early

1700s. Prior to that time, there were dozens of different bagpipes in

various countries. In Medieval times, most had just one drone. In the

late-medieval and early-rennaisance, a second drone was added.

 

Different bagpipes have uniquely different pitches, keys, and timbres.

The Bulgarian Kabba Gaida, for example, has a very deep, low tone that

has a haunting quality about it. The Great German pipes, especially

those in the key of low-G, have a very low deep drone to them, and

sound like an oboe. The French Breton Biniou-Kosz has a tiny chanter

with a very high pitch, sort of like a piccolo. Most of the regional

bagpipes of today are modern day copies of medieval and rennaisance

designs that have endured the centuries -- if a design is good, you

stick to it.

 

Do an image search for "Cantigas" on google. You will see many

representations of bagpipes in medieval art. There were many different

bagpipes back then, mainly due to the fact that most were custom-made,

and that each maker had their own style.

 

 

From: "Minstrel Krampf" <psycho at weirdcrap.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: A Really Ancient Bagpipe -- The Mezoued

Date: 20 Feb 2007 12:25:21 -0800

 

I recently bought a Tunisian Mezoued from an online gift-store, and

was amazed by how little this instruemnt has changed in 4000 years.

It's still made from a dead goat or pig, with the shape of the animal

clearly visible in the form of the bag, and cane.

 

For those who don't know about this wonderful, noisy, and whimsical

ancient instrument, essentially it's one of the oldest forms of

bagpipe in the world, with archaeological specimens going back 4000

years. It was invented in North Africa, and is one of the national

folk instruments of Tunisia. The Instrument has two 5-hole chanters,

as opposed to an 8-hole chanter and a drone. the chanters are played

simultaneously, giving a chorus effect when played and tuned properly.

The Chanters are made of larger cane stalks, with goat or cow horns on

the end of each chanter tube. The Blowpipe is literally just a

hollowed-out cane tube shoved into a wooden socket.

 

The bag is a seasoned-type bag, unlike the mediterranean sheep-bags

which are dry, and require no seasoning (Seasoning is similar to the

leather conditioners used on shoes and leather jackets). The

resemblence to the Greek Tsabuona (the ancient Greek version of this

same instrument) is apparent, as the chanter arrangement is the same.

The only difference is that the Greek version is found made with

metal, wood, and bone chanters, and a sheep-skin bag.

 

When properly tuned, the chanters play the exact same notes. The

chanter is typically played as one -- each finger covers the same note-

hole on each chanter. Rarely, holes are blocked with wax or tape to

produce two-part harmonies (in fact, it would definitely not be

approprate to do that for period recreations). The instrument is loud

and whining - -louder than smallpipes, but softer than large-pipes.

The sound is unique -- a chorus effect, but limited note range (6

notes all together).

 

I was able to play a few medieval tunes on it -- any song that doesn't

go beyond a 6-note rance seems to work. other notes can be done with a

grace-note effect, and notes can easily be bent, because the finger-

holes are so large.

 

For players of modern bagpipes, the reeds used are tenor drone reeds.

I test-fit my own natural tenor drone reeds, and they are the same

size (a smart move by the manufacturer, since this makes maintenence

easy). You have to untie the chanter stock to remove the whole chanter

assembly, and carefully ease out the original reeds, which are sealed

with Bees Wax. The new reeds can be inserted into the holes, and

adjusted by raising or lowering until the chanters play Do-Re-Mi_Fa-

Sol-La (no ti or doe, because it's just six notes!).

 

I was told that some ancient Greek manuscripts exist with recorded

Music. I believe one collection of music called "Seikklos" has parts

that were made for this particular instrument (or at least the Greek

version of it). I'm going to be figuring out more tunes on this

instrument before doing my next gig.

 

 

From: rurikps at cox.net

Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Bagpipes

Date: July 12, 2011 11:06:55 AM CDT

To: the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com

 

Well, unless someone has a couple of sets of pipes to lend Marcus and I, the theory will have to go untested. I can't afford the $1k - $5k to buy a set.

 

But if someone out there has the disposable income, you might want to check out this web site:

http://www.hendersongroupltd.com/bagpipesinstock.asp">http://www.hendersongroupltd.com/bagpipesinstock.asp

 

Rurik

 

 

From: ladytartan at gmail.com

Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Bagpipes

Date: July 12, 2011 11:31:35 AM CDT

To: the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com

 

If anyone is really serious about purchasing a set of pipes, I recommend starting with the chanter first. It's how all prospering pipers learn. Then purchase the bag and pipes. You can email me off list and I can put you in touch with instructors, bands, specialty groups, etc... and some who have used pipes to sell... as was a huge part of my life for a long time :)

On a more appropriate Tavern note - the best way to assess a piper is if they can dance to his/her tunes... nothing like the sound of rotten duck to clear out a bar!

humbly instigating... Malore

 

 

From: rurikps at cox.net

Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Bagpipes

Date: July 12, 2011 11:06:55 AM CDT

To: the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com

 

Well, unless someone has a couple of sets of pipes to lend Marcus and I, the theory will have to go untested. I can't afford the $1k - $5k to buy a set.

 

But if someone out there has the disposable income, you might want to check out this web site:

http://www.hendersongroupltd.com/bagpipesinstock.asp

 

Rurik

 

 

From: ladytartan at gmail.com

Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Bagpipes

Date: July 12, 2011 11:31:35 AM CDT

To: the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com

 

If anyone is really serious about purchasing a set of pipes, I recommend starting with the chanter first. It's how all prospering pipers learn. Then purchase the bag and pipes. You can email me off list and I can put you in touch with instructors, bands, specialty groups, etc... and some who have used pipes to sell... as was a huge part of my life for a long time :)

On a more appropriate Tavern note - the best way to assess a piper is if they can dance to his/her tunes... nothing like the sound of rotten duck to clear out a bar!

humbly instigating... Malore

 

 

From the FB "SCA Library of Alexandria - A&S discussions with the Laurels of our Realms."

Susan Koziel

7:14pm Dec 7

 

Not sure if it'd be helpful for your questions Stragin but for Stefan's...

<<< Can one play the bagpipes while running? Or just a fast march? How were they used in battle? Did the bagpipers march in with their group? Or stand to the side? What happens when the bagpiper got to the enemy? Did they also carry a sword or other weapon? >>>

 

Bagpipes and Hurdy-Gurdies in Their Social Setting

Emanuel Winternitz

The Metropolitan Museum of Art Bulletin, New Series, Vol. 2, No. 1 (Summer, 1943), pp. 56-83

Published by: The Metropolitan Museum of Art

Article Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/3257042

 

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