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What to use on the ground in your tent or your period pavilion.

 

NOTE: See also the files: tent-fabrics-msg, tent-interior-msg, tent-painting-msg, tent-making-msg, tent-setup-msg, tent-care-msg, p-tents-msg, pavilions-msg, p-tent-const-art, tent-dsguises-msg, tent-sources-msg.

 

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Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 22:41:17 -0700 (PDT)

From: Andrew Tye <atye at efn.org>

To: An Tir <Steps at antir.sca.org>

Subject: Re: period pavilions

 

On Thu, 8 May 1997, Lynnette E Storie wrote:

> I have made the greatest find ever!!!

> I have managed to acquire a period type pavilions for $3. It appears to

> be a double french bell. We have attempted to put it up and have mostly

> succeeded.

> My question for those who have pavilions is, what do you put on the

> floor? Do you just leave it as what ever material it is set upon? Do you

> recommend plastic underneath( considering our weather)

 

Ivar here,

 

First, congratulations on the find.  Second, let me ask a couple of

questions. Does it have a floor sewn in?  If not, does it have mud-flaps?

 

If the answers are 1. No, and 2. Yes, I'll tell you what I do.  First, you

can be pretty secure with no floor by turning the mud-flaps out.  This

helps channel run-off away from the inside.  However, there are no

guarantees that the ground cover is nice so you may eventually want to get

a floor.  (Also, for French Bells, a floor makes setting up much quicker

and easier.  You know where the perimeter is to drive the stakes.)

 

What I do is have two separate floors.  First on the ground in a piece of

Visqueen, (polyethelene sheeting used for vapor barrier in crawl-spaces),

cut to the footprint of the tent.  Then over this goes a floor I had made

by the local tent & awning company out of heavy waxed cotton duck.  I then

set the tent up on top of it.  After the tent is staked down, the

mud-flaps MUST be tucked under the Visqueen and make sure that none of it

peeking out.  If you don't, you can be assured that it WILL rain and a

goodly portion of it will invite itself inside and form a nice deep pool.

If, on the other hand, you rig it properly you will be dry inside while

most others are wallowing.  Additionaly, you can start layering up old

ersatz oriental rugs inside for comfort and verisimilitude without

worrying about them getting soaked.

 

I hope this is of some use,

 

Ivar Hakonarson

Adiantum.

 

 

The Cathedral Steps - Kingdom of An Tir email list

From scoffman at on-ramp.ior.com Fri May 23 19:42:22 1997

Date: Thu, 8 May 97 01:10:29 -0700 (PDT)

From: Steve Coffman <scoffman at on-ramp.ior.com>

To: Lynnette E Storie <mohr_store at juno.com>

Cc: steps at antir.sca.org

Subject: Re: period pavilions

 

At 12:39 AM 5/8/97 EDT, you wrote:

>Greetings Gentles,

>I have made the greatest find ever!!!

>I have managed to acquire a period type pavilions for $3. It appears to

>be a double french bell. We have attempted to put it up and have mostly

>succeeded.

>My question for those who have pavilions is, what do you put on the

>floor? Do you just leave it as what ever material it is set upon? Do you

>recommend plastic underneath( considering our weather)

>All comments and suggestions taken in the manner given.

 

       In our climate, I highly recommend plastic sheeting under whatever

type of pavalion/tent you use.  If you have a seperate floor of some type of

heavy material (cotton duck, canvas etc.) or a built in floor, it will save

wear and tear on the floor, and will help keep moisture (and mud)  from

seeping through the flooring.  I recommend you use 6-8 mil pastic poly

sheeting (available at any hardware store, genenrally available in clear and

black), and cut it just slightly smaller than the footprint of your

pavilion. If you have any extra sticking out from underneath your pavilion,

when it rains (notice I didn't say if :)  it will pool up, run underneath

your flooring,  seep right up into your pavalion, and you'll find yourself

waking in a nice pool of water.  You'd be suprised at how little of a

rainfall it takes to flood a tent when you have some nice plastic scoops

sticking out from under it.  :)  Also, if you can find one of suitable size,

those blue plastic tarps work as well, and are a bit heavier.  I've seen

them in white and brown on occasion too (I use one for the floor in my

Viking A-frame myself.)

 

       As a bonus, it helps protect the floor from sticks, shrubby plants,

pine cones, etc., and it's a lot cheaper to replace a piece of plastic than

a pavilion floor.  And, if the weather is nice on pack-up day, the plastic

makes a nice dry place to fold up your pavilion rather than on soggy ground

(and keeps it clean too.)  That is of course, if the pavilion isn't a soggy

mess itself.  Nothing much more fun than packing up a nice, cold and wet

tent early on a chilly morning.  :)  Besides camping in the SCA I've been

backpacking and camping for 17 years, so I'm quite familiar with that.  :)

Anyways, good luck and happy camping!

 

       Etienne d'Avignon

 

 

From: Holly Cochran <ulfaidan at flash.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Tent Floors??? or not?

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:36:59 -0600

 

Cece Thompson wrote:

> This year is my 4th Pennsic and I just got my first period tent.  It's

> not huge (a 12' x 16' French Bell Wedge) but it'll do fine for my

> husband and I.  My question is...... Should I plan on covering the

> ground inside the tent with some sort of floor.  I've seen it done with

> and without.  I lean twards without.. I'm not afraid of bugs, we'll be

> sleeping on a raised bed.  Seems like a lot of trouble.  Please give me

> the pros and cons.

> Adela DeBruges

> Aka: Cece Thompson

 

As someone who has done both, I recommend taking at least some sort of

floor for under and around the bed--waking up and stepping on soggy dewy

grass is kinda icky. Also, gives you a cleanish place to stand and get

dressed. Also, I recommend something under the food storage area, and

setting your luggage on something dew proof.  Damp mildewy clothes are

not fun.  Usually you can pick up a few carpet remnants for cheap that

will work, or used plastic backed drapes, that work pretty well. We are

currently putting down plastic tarps underneath, between earth and

cloth, to help with the moisture aspect. Added bonus is it cuts down on

the bugs.

 

Ms. Aidan

 

 

From: lesterw at mindspring.com (Lester Williams)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Tent floors?

Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:45:21 GMT

 

My tribe and I have been camping in period tents for almost seven

years now.  All of these are homemade.  We use builders plastic as a

ground cloth.  You can find this at the hardware store on rolls.  Make

sure you get a thick piece so sticks and such don't put a hole in it.

It is inexpensive and you can trade it out whenever it wears out.  cut

a piece that is the diminsions of your tent plus 12 inches over on all

sides. When you lay out the plastic, allow the excess to stick up

around the inside edges of your walls.  As long as the plastic goes up

the walls you don't need a trench or anything.  Use your bed, rugs,

icechest and other stuff to anchor the edges of the plastic along the

walls so it can't fold over.  We have withstood 4inches of standing

water in this manner with nothing getting wet and we live in the south

where it rains buckets!  

 

Also if your canvas from Wal-mart is not waterproof it will leak in

heavy rains or really long rains no matter what you put on it.  The

canvas that is made for Sailboats called sunforger is waterproofed at

the factory and stays that way ( at least for seven years anyway).  It

is worth the expense to stay dry!

 

Good Luck.  I wouldn't camp any other way, but in a period tent.  They

breath so much better in hot weather and hold up better in the wind as

long as you reenforce your rope and grommet attatchments!

 

Blodwen, Tribe Zareefat

 

 

From: Martin Catt <lodovico at flash.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Tent floors?

Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:48:18 GMT

 

The simplest and most durable off-the-shelf solution is to get a

rubberized painters drop cloth. They (usually) have a cloth side, with

the drip-proof white rubber side on the opposite. I've found them at

large home improvement chains like Home Depot or Lowes. Their advantages

are that they are QUIET (they don't crinkle like plastic sheeting when

you walk on them), they fold up easy, and they don't look so ungodly

unperiod when you put the cloth side up. Their disadvantages are that

they cost more than simple pastic sheeting -- you just can't chuck them

when they get distressed beyond practical use without a twinge in the

pocketbook. They ARE more durable than plastic sheets, and can be washed

(by hand with a hose).  

 

Lodovico

 

 

From: "Giovanini Gregory" <p.legates at worldnet.att.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Tent floors?

Date: 5 Apr 1999 01:52:07 GMT

 

Use a cheap plastic trarp, cover it with a yard sale poly fake persian rug

or the grass stuff or poly carpet for marine use, if it gets muddy hose it

off when you get home. Also use an inflateable air matress to get you up

off ground and it is water proof, floats too if it rains too much, or use

as a raft if good weather and near a lake.

 

 

From: Tanya Guptill <tguptill at mail.teleport.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Tent floors?

Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:42:46 -0700

 

CapnCarp wrote:

> What you need to do is get several sections of the canvas/cotton duck material, sew it in the internal dimensions of your tent (plus about an extra 8" on each dimension, and paint it with a good-quality matte-finish latex housepaint">

 

<snipped more good info from here>

________________________________________

 

A canvas floor is also an easy way to chart how big your tent will be

when staked out.  Mark the places on the floor where your tent stakes

will go for the perimeter of the tent, and stake your tent down

(PARTIALLY) before you insert your poles.  This may help you use less

people to set up your tent, since you  don't need anyone to hold the

centerpole/frame while you have someone else frantically stakes down the

tent.

 

Anything you can do to get your bedding off the ground is probably

wise. If you are not able to do a bed, how about couple pallets with a

futon or a straw mattress?  Maybe you can barter a skill or item you

have for someone to put together a simple rope bed for you.

 

Mira

--

MEDIEVAL PAVILION RESOURCES

http://www.teleport.com/~tguptill/tent.html

Barony of Three Mountains, An Tir

 

 

From: bronwynmgn at aol.comnospam (Bronwynmgn)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Date: 05 Jul 2004 15:17:09 GMT

Subject: Re: 10x10 ground cloths?

 

>Anyone know of a source of pre-sized 10x10 groundcloths/dropcloths for

>inside tents?

 

Remember that pre-sized plastic tarps aren't really the size they are sold as

(for example, look at, say a tarp being sold as a 10x15.  Somewhere on the

packaging it will say something like "finished size 9' 6" by 14' 6 ").

 

That said, one of the Sports Authority stores near me used to sell tarps cut to

the footprints of their modern tents, so you could, for example, buy a fitted

tarp for a hexagonal dome tent.  I don't remember if they had square ones or

not, but as some modern tents have square footprints, and 10 x 10 is not an

uncommon size for modern tents, you might get lucky.  It was at least a year

ago that I saw this, so I don't know if they are still carrying them.  You

might also check more camping-based stores like REI (easily findable at

REI.com) or Eastern Mountain Sports.

 

Brangwayna

 

 

From: folenzo at yahoo.com (Francis Herman)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: 10x10 ground cloths?

Date: 6 Jul 2004 01:06:05 -0700

 

Gwen Morse <morsej at none.net> wrote:

> Anyone know of a source of pre-sized 10x10 groundcloths/dropcloths for

> inside tents? The ones made out of the plastic-based weave for painting

> and the like? I have a Panther 10x10 wall tent and I'm too cheap to pay

> the $100 for a canvas top/plastic bottom cloth that fits :).

--snip--

> Gwen

 

Try this:

http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=12273&;memberId=12500226

 

Or, if you want something a bit nicer:

http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=12172&;memberId=12500226

 

Disclaimer: I have no connection to Campmor, except as an occasional

customer. They do have a nice size-selection of tarps, though.

-Otfrid Ammerthaler

 

 

From: "Michael Grossberg" <geejayem at earthlink.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: 10x10 ground cloths?

Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:09:57 GMT

 

"Gwen Morse" <morsej at none.net> wrote

> "1.9 oz. per square yard reinforced high count taffeta nylon. Very light

> and flexible. Waterproof urethane coating. Grommets at all corners and

> about 3.5 feet apart on the hems. Finish sizes are slightly smaller.

> Made in USA."

> Anyone know if 'nylon taffeta' is the crinkly/noisy nylon?

 

Yes, it is

 

 

From: herveus at radix.net (Michael Houghton)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: 10x10 ground cloths?

Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 16:32:56 -0000

 

Mark S. Harris <stefanlirous at austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Greetings from Stefan li Rous,

> bronwynmgn at aol.comnospam (Bronwynmgn) wrote:

>> >Anyone know of a source of pre-sized 10x10 groundcloths/dropcloths for

>> >inside tents?

>It looks like my posting yesterday didn't happen, so let me try again.

>I have never found a tarp to exactly fit my 17 x 17 pavilion. I have

>used one a little larger, and folded over one section of it. I have also

>used two smaller tarps and overlapped them in the middle.

>Plastic tarps tend to crinkle as you walk on them. You can eliminate the

>noise and make the interior of the pavilion less modern [looking] by spreading

>some throw rugs on top of the plastic. I use several that I picked up at

>flea markets and garage sales.

 

In our shop, we lay down a plastic tarp, then cover that with rush mats,

then lay rugs over top of that. It looks nice, and is nice under foot.

 

We're not trying to do an impression of "selling out of a tent", but

rather "selling out of a permanent shop" where the walls and roof just

happen to be a pavilion.

 

yours,

Herveus

--

Michael and MJ Houghton   | Herveus d'Ormonde and Megan O'Donnelly

herveus at radix.net         | White Wolf and the Phoenix

Bowie, MD, USA            | Tablet and Inkle bands, and other stuff

                         | http://www.radix.net/~herveus/

 

 

From: bronwynmgn at aol.comnospam (Bronwynmgn)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Date: 06 Jul 2004 11:38:13 GMT

Subject: Re: 10x10 ground cloths?

 

>Plastic tarps tend to crinkle as you walk on them. You can eliminate the

>noise and make the interior of the pavilion less modern by spreading

>some throw rugs on top of the plastic.

 

Putting a lightweight canvas painters tarp, available at Home Depot and such

places, on top of the plastic also eliminates an amazing amount of the crinkly

noise. They are also washable, so you can throw them in the washer and get rid

of the muddy footprints and ground-in grass.

 

We use two plastic tarps for our 15x24 oval marquis (one for each end, not one

on top of the other), covered by two canvas tarps, with a few rugs spotted

around for color.

 

Brangwayna

 

 

From: Gwen Morse <goldmooneachna at yahoo.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Synthetic Canvas?

Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:25:37 -0400

 

On 1 Jun 2004 21:00:22 -0700, puff at darksleep.com (Steven J. Owens)

wrote:

>Last Pennsic (2003) was a wet, muddy affair for us (down in the

>swamp) with some stretches of days of damp and dank.  This Pennsic

>looks to be more of the same.

>While I'd like to obtain natural canvas tarps for a more period

>look, even if it were financially feasible, I don't think it would

>be a good idea.  Mildew in these conditions is inevitable.  In

>fact we did have some canvas last year, and it did get mildewed,

>in spite of being treated.

>Does anybody know of any sources for polyetheline tarps that aren't

>as blatantly, obnoxiously modern as the typical blue or green tarps?

>Something that could be easily ignored at a distance of 30 feet?

 

I don't, but, I've heard of "rubber-coated canvas" being available. It

was used liberally in the camp next to us at Pennsic 33.

 

The default use is apparently for tarps for trucks, but, it can be

gotten for other uses as well.

 

Along with being resistent to rotting/mildew, it can be marked with

arms or other images.

 

It was used in a kitchen shade, a yurt covering, and possibly one

tent.

 

Gwen

 

 

From: Myfanwy ferch Eifion <myfanwy at pug.net>

Date: March 25, 2009 7:55:13 AM CDT

To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>, Yasun Dancing Tyger <yasun at lists.pug.net>, GulfWar camping list <gulfwars at lists.houselucerna.net>

Subject: [Bryn-gwlad] Plastic mats

 

I found a pretty decent place to order some of the plastic mats that look like rugs.  They can be found here:

http://www.carealotpets.com/item-detail/?ItemID=1901E

 

It doesn't look like shipping will be less if bulk orders are done or not.

 

[ Polypropylene Mat

 

Polypropylene mats provide a barrier between your dog and the environment. Use as ground cover for an exercise pen or patio mat for an RV. Tightly woven to form a smooth surface, yet allows liquid to pass through easily. Polypropylene mat is quickly cleaned by hose or brush. Can be folded for easy storage. Assorted patterns and colors, our choice. Choose 4 x 7, 6 x 8, 9 x 9, or 9 x 12.

   -Stefan ]

 

Myfanwy

 

 

Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:09:26 +1100

From: "Yseult de Lacy (Chris Robertson)"

        <yseult_de_lacy at optusnet.com.au>

Subject: Re: [Lochac] Small moats allowed for Festival for Period

        Tents?

To: "The Shambles, the SCA Lochac mailing list" <lochac at sca.org.au>

 

Alfar wrote:

<<< Spoke to Glenworth people. The answer is no. [about being allowed to dig trenches around tents - Stefan]

Mind you, moats around tents have minimal affect in stopping the water coming in. To be effective you would need place your tent on a small mound and then dig a moat around it.

From doing 23 festivals, you should raise the edges of your floor and attach it to the walls. It worked for my A frame, even through the occasional flood that occurred at Tara. >>>

 

What he said about floors.  Get a polytarp,  fold the edges up, and safety-pin them to your walls (your can safety-pin the corners of the tarp together to reduce bulk.

 

It works.  It's not pretty, but it works.  This is why the design for the floor in my pavilion-making instructions looks like a child's wading pool.

 

--Yseult

 

 

From: Stefan li Rous <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>

Date: January 4, 2011 11:40:01 PM CST

To: the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Re: Preparations for Gulf Wars

 

On Jan 4, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Alianore de Clare wrote:

<<< Plastic rugs????  Pray tell.....I am intrigued!

Alianore >>>

 

These are woven mats that started showing up about ten years ago. First the place to get them was at dog shows where they apparently first proved popular. Nice for washing down dogs on, I guess. I got mine at a large oriental grocery/everything store here in Austin. I got them when they were on sale. Unfortunately the day I picked to go by and buy them turned out to be the Chinese New Year and since most of the shops and restaurants in the shopping center were oriental, there was a huge crowd and parking was real difficult to find. Someday I've got to go back when it isn't a madhouse.

 

They are probably available online, but I haven't looked.

 

The ones I got were the largest they had at, I think, 8 ft x 10 ft in size. They are made from recycled plastic and are woven in a middle-eastern style pattern. White and a color. The front and back are negative patterns of each other so even if you end up with a pair of duplicates you can reverse one to get a different pattern.

 

They are woven, which means the water can seep up through them, but it also means that any water that does come in from the sides or doors, just drains through to the soil underneath. I've tried to use various plastic sheets and tarps before, but being waterproof any water that gets in, tends to pool in the low spots. I *hate* stepping off my nice, warm platform bed with large, poofy air mattress and warm sleeping bags and blankets into a pool of cold water...

 

Since these mats/rugs are made of plastic they don't soak up any water that gets on them and since they are sewn together in 4 ft? strips, they naturally fold on those lines and then can be folded or rolled the rest of the way. Much easier than trying to fold big sheets of plastic. They look enough like oriental carpets that you don't have to disguise them and they don't crinkle and rustle when you walk on them like the plastic tarps do.

 

My pavilion is 17 ft. x 17 ft. on the inside at the floor, so I use four of these mats overlapping in the center under the center pole. I think I ended up with 1 green and white, 1 blue and white and 2 brown and white ones.

 

Stefan

--------

THLord Stefan li Rous    Barony of Bryn Gwlad    Kingdom of Ansteorra

Mark S. Harris           Austin, Texas          StefanliRous at austin.rr.com

 

 

From: elizabeth at crouchet.com

Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] plastic mats

Date: July 7, 2011 3:53:25 PM CDT

To: bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org

 

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:46 PM, s1ren <s1renwoman at gmail.com> wrote:

<<< I've seen some for cheap at garden nurseries, and places like Big Lots and

Garden Ridge, but they were always garishly colored and tropical in theme.

But perhaps with some hardcore spray paint...?

 

~ Mad >>>

 

The ones at the chinese market look a lot more like a persian rug and

don't need the extra time and expense of the spray paint. And they are

often just a little sturdier. The cheap ones are designed to last a

season of summer use. The chinese ones are designed to be used indoors

as daily floor cover or for dog shows, I think. Not sure how the spray

paint would hold up, the 'sticks to plastic' spray paint I have used,

did not.

 

Claire

 

 

From: daria at asgardfarms.com

Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] plastic mats

Date: July 7, 2011 3:48:58 PM CDT

To: bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org

 

I remember taking a class years ago where we took regular old cotton trigger and made painted floor cloths.

They were cool looking, machine washable and as I recall – period (could be wrong on the period part)

Daria Riley

http://www.asgardfarms.com

http://www.backyardvikings.org

 

 

From: gwenneth40 at gmail.com

Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] an unsolved personal mystery (tents and pavilions)

Date: July 7, 2011 2:25:50 PM CDT

To: bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org

 

I do not like ground covers.  I find they get much filthier and

muddier than the actual ground does.  Then they get stinky and moldy.

If there is grass, I prefer to walk on that.  If it is a dirt floor, I

put down a couple of small throw rugs.

 

Gwenneth

 

 

From: murfnik at hotmail.com

Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] an unsolved personal mystery (tents and pavilions)

Date: July 7, 2011 3:01:20 PM CDT

To: bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org

 

Our pavilion is big enough we've been able hang a wall across the middle and have the front as a sitting area, and then put a regular tent, concealed in the back. And even attached floors in modern tents are no proof against creepy crawlies. I've come back to my tent during the day to find fire ants crawling everywhere and had to wait until the sun went down to get them out.

 

But yes, an attached floor is not a feature of a "period" tent that I've ever seen.

 

Kate.

 

 

From: Wolf <wolfman at darkhorde.org>

Date: July 7, 2011 2:16:42 PM CDT

To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>

Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] an unsolved personal mystery (tents and pavilions)

 

s1ren wrote:

<<< After my previous pavilion plans petered out, I began perusing

pictorials and tutorials on the internet, poking around for period

pavilion possibilities.   Raise your hand if you're tired of the Ps.

Awesome. Me, too. >>>

 

I'm finding hours and hours' of awesome info to read out there, and

lots of examples by some very creative people, but I have yet to come

across ANY mention of tent floors.  Are we not making tents with

floors, here??  How on earth do you keep the ants, scorpions, spiders,

and mud out of your tent without a floor attached to the walls like

modern tents have??  ACK!

 

Bored at work today,

Madylyn

=======================================

 

 

I have yet to actually see a period-style pavilion built with an attached

floor (either from the professional makers like Panther, or from people

making their own).  

 

Most period style setups (even moving up into the civil war time period

recreations) have seperate tops and sides (and more than one section to

the sides on all but the smallest ones) - to have a sewn on floor the

floor and sides would have to be ONE PEICE of canvas - this would be almost

impossible for most normal non-steriod pumping bodybuilders to lift (not

to mention having to ship it as one overweight piece if purchased).

 

Typical setup involves putting whatever is used for the floor down, putting

the top and poles up, then attach the sides.  Having the sides permanently

attached to the floor would mean you'd have to walk and step all over them

while putting the top up, and you'd lose the option to set up the pavilion as

a day shade/top only structure.

 

I generally use some tarps, with carpeting over the tarp to minimize the

visibility of the ugly blue plastic.  Yes, the risk of something with

more than 4 legs showing up is there - that risk plus the heat pretty

much sum up the reasons I don't camp in the summer around here.  Up

at Pennsic when I used to live close enough to go I never had real

problems - and at Gulf wars it is usually early enough in the year

that the nasties are minimal.  

 

My "Plan B" if I HAD to do a camp out in a high risk season where I

knew there would be unpleasants en masse would be to put a small

mundane dome tent on the bed and use it like a canopy bed - leave all

the rain covers off and use it as a screen dome for sleeping.  I have

not executed this plan yet but its in my brain as an option....

 

Keep in mind the period pavilions also don't have screens - so a

sewn floor would NOT be a guarantee of an insect free tent.  What

I HAVE done when I have had to camp during summer has been to

lay my floor tarps down and set the poles and top up, and then

go around the perimiter with a good dusting of Sevin dust or some

other appropriate powder/crystal insecticide, than put the walls on.

I usually end up with flies, bees and wasps at Gulf Wars, and one time

at one of the Ren Faires I had a small snake under the carpet...I watched

the lump slither across the floor and saw the snake briefly when it

came out from under the floor outside the tent and went off into the

trees.

 

The long and short of it is, period camping does have a higher risk

of "things" coming inside - which is why modern tents were developed

the way they are.

 

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