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Pavilion and canvas merchants. Reviews and recommendations.
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From: WITHERSPOON at suu.EDU (RHIANWEN)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Inexpensive Period Pavilions
Date: 2 Jun 1993 22:28:17 -0400
Just an idea here... In my small town, we have a Coleman factory that
opens its doors to the public every Wednesday afternoon to sell fabric
"seconds" (maybe not dyed uniformly, maybe another small, unnoticeable
defect) for $.50 a pound. Our broke-student Seneschal bought enough
good, heavy canvas in natural tan and dark green to make a 10x15 pavilion
for a mere pittance.
Perhaps there are other such options available elsewhere...
Rhianwen Morgaine ferch Aelhaearn
From: NIELSEN at falcon.mayo.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Oh, Gosh, Lots of Stuff...
Date: 3 Jun 1993 11:48:54 -0400
Greetings from Lady Therica unto the good gentles of the Rialto!
Hmmm... I like the idea of paying for extra space at Pennsic for a larger
pavilion --- I know I would do it! As it is, my sunshade is going to be shared
with several friends, so it's being 'split up' as it were.
Also, I've had some requests for Panther Primitive's address (and Tink, I've
tried twice now to mail you the info, and both times it's been burped back at me --- what's your REAL address?) Anyway, for those of you interested, here it
is:
Panther Primitives
PO Box 32
Normantown, WV 25267
For ordering: 1-800-487-2684
For information: 1-304-462-7718
FAX: 1-304-462-7755
They have some nice things and seem quite willing to work with their customers.
Yep, another long missive from Therica!
--'--,--< at
From: salley at niktow.canisius.edu (David Salley)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Tent size at Pennsic
Summary: Canvas from Buffalo, NY
Date: 6 Jun 93 21:59:01 GMT
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208
In article <19930603093510UCCXDEM at MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU>, UCCXDEM at MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU (UCCXDEM) writes:
H.L. Marke von Mainz writes:
> >There are many. Waterproof canvass can be had for $3 a yard for 60" wide,
> >from National Canvas in Buffalo, NY. I know a member of my household who
> >makes pavillions for sale: a 10x10 can cost about $200. I am currently
> >Rowena ni Dhonnchaidh
> >Shire of Glenn Linn, EK
> Lady Rowena, could you post the address and phone number for the
> aforementioned National Canvas. Thank You
Hi, This is Dagonell who lives in Buffalo. There is no National Canvas
listed in the Buffalo phone book. I have no idea what company she's
talking about. My lady and I bought the canvas for our tent from:
Custom Canvas Mfg. Co. Inc.
775 Seneca Street
Buffalo, NY 14210
(716) 852-6372
This is NOT a showroom/store. This is a factory. No mark-ups in the price. ;-)
We got just the canvas and made our tent. Lady Aelis (who is blind) had
them make her tent to her exact specifications. Their canvas is
water-resistant and highly flame retardant. This is not just what the
brochures say but backed up by my tests on pieces of scrap. Call them.
They were extremely helpful.
- Dagonell
SCA Persona : Lord Dagonell Collingwood of Emerald Lake, CSC, CK, CTr
Habitat : East Kingdom, AEthelmearc Principality, Rhydderich Hael Barony
Disclaimer : A society that needs disclaimers has too many lawyers.
Internet : salley at niktow.cs.canisius.edu
USnail-net : David P. Salley, 136 Shepard Street, Buffalo, New York 14212-2029
From: aunties at aol.com (AuntieS)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavillion Question
Date: 30 Mar 1994 18:26:02 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
In article <keeganCKGo1u.JDn at netcom.com>, keegan at netcom.com (Tim Bray/C.
Keegan) writes:
I would like to hear form anyone who has ever bought or used one of their
[Tentsmiths] tents...
I have two of their tents and they are excellent. They have withstood to worst
that Pennsic can throw at them without leaking, ripping, falling over, etc.
They aren't as pristine white as they once were, but they work just fine and
show no signs of deteriorating after over 7 years. Do remember never to put
them away wet (or even damp), do *not* store them in canvas bags or on concrete
floors, and *never never* store the ropes with the canvas, as they will leave
rope-shaped grease stains on your lovely tent (you guessed it -- I learned the
hard way). They can be successfully painted with acrylic or latex paint. Get
the optional mudflaps. -- Auntie (Veteran of Too Many Pennsics)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: UCCXDEM <UCCXDEM at MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Would it be okay to...
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater OK
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:07:00 GMT
>In article <Ei9UdY600WB=9C0h0g at andrew.cmu.edu> David Schroeder <ds4p+ at andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>From: David Schroeder <ds4p+ at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>Subject: Would it be okay to...
>>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 00:02:44 -0400
>
>>deletia
>
>Bertram, Bertram, Bertram....
>
>Do you know what you are apt to start here?
>Now we'll have knights at tournaments stopping in mid-swing to pitch the latest
>anti-perspirant, or anti-rust treatment.
>Ladies in glorious Elizabethan garb will have the names of seamstresses
>cunningly stitched into the hem of their skirts.
>Merchants will hire bards to singingly entice patrons to their booths
>(Hmmm - not a bad idea, if the price is right. I'll have to advertise
>my availability!)
>
>
>Damien of Baden (who hates watching commercials)
>Altavia/Caid
>
>> Bertram of Bearington . Debatable Lands . AEthelmearc . East Kingdom . SCA
>> Dave Schroeder . Technical Manager, CISCORP . Pittsburgh . PA 412.731.3230
>
Milord,
You are too late. The shire I belong to has a company going. The name is
The Mooneschadowe Pavilion Company. We have built 12 pavilions in the
last year. Most of the pavilions are for the shire or shire houses. But,
every pavilion made going out of shire has a label on the dag and top
seam saying 'Mooneschadowe Pavilion Company.' We will be auctioning off
another pavilion (constructed to specs) at our tourney this September,
and we are in contract phase for another 3 pavilions. So advertising
is already going on.
Marke
***********************************************************************
H.L. Marke von Mainz David Mann
Design Master- Mooneschadowe Pavilion Co. OSU
Mooneschadowe, Ansteorra Stillwater, Ok.
From: caradoc at enet.net (John Groseclose)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavilions (period or periodish)
Date: 26 Oct 1994 16:57:48 GMT
Organization: Who? Me? Organized?
In article <9410252145462678307 at aol.com>, DonaldH465 at aol.COM wrote:
> Do people have any experiences with such pavilions that they could share with
> me so that I might make a wise purchase (and keep my lady wife in the comfort
> she so richly deserves)? Good or bad, I'm just curious what your experiences
> are.
I'm the proud owner of a TentMasters 15'x15' mitred corner octagon. It's
been to one Estrella, and two minor wars. So far, it shows NO signs of
wear (although two of the stakes are bent from the rather hard ground at
the Baron's War in Atenveldt. No problem to straighten them.)
I haven't seen the Panther Pavilions, but I'll say with conviction that
TentMasters makes some very fine pavilions, and that I have yet to see
someone who's unhappy with theirs.
During the Estrella "Hurricane," I saw *many* pavilions blown over,
damaged, destroyed, or removed completely from the site by the wind. I do
not remember seeing any of the TentMasters pavilions on site being moved
much.
--
John D. Groseclose <caradoc at enet.net>
From: mjc+ at cs.cmu.edu (Monica Cellio)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavilions (period or periodish)
Date: 27 Oct 94 13:51:35 GMT
Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, School of Computer Science
Several years ago I bought a small pavillion from RKE Lodges. (If anyone
has a current address, please let me know.) The workmanship was excellent,
and they delivered a custom order on time or perhaps a bit early. Aside
from cutting poles and ropes, I've never had to do a bit of work on it.
It's held up great through 6 or 7 Pennsics. It's *never* leaked, and I've
never had a tie or stake loop pull loose. Their prices several years ago
were the best I'd seen.
I finally outgrew it, and I was tired of spending more of my Pennsic
space allocation on rope space than living space, so this year I built
a yurt. I ordered the (pre-made) canvas from Service Canvas in Buffalo, NY.
They missed several promised delivery dates; the canvas showed up the day
before I left for Pennsic this year (though it was due weeks earlier).
This meant I didn't have a chance to test-drive it before the war, which
in turn meant that I didn't discover that it leaked like a sieve until I
was at Pennsic. The construction is poor (they didn't even finish the seams
correctly), and when I called (in the middle of Pennsic) to complain
about the leaking their response was to mail me a tube of seam-sealer and
tell me to live with it. They were rude and produced sub-standard work;
I will never deal with them again.
Were I to do it over, I would ask RKE Lodges to make my yurt even though to
the best of my knowledge they've never done a yurt before. They'd probably
have done a better job despite that.
Ellisif
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: rmccown at world.std.com (Bob McCown)
Subject: Re: Pavilions (period or periodish)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 18:21:44 GMT
caradoc at enet.net (John Groseclose) writes:
>In article <9410252145462678307 at aol.com>, DonaldH465 at aol.COM wrote:
>> Do people have any experiences with such pavilions that they could share with
>> me so that I might make a wise purchase (and keep my lady wife in the comfort
>> she so richly deserves)? Good or bad, I'm just curious what your experiences
>> are.
I own a Midieval Miscelanea pavillion. Its been through 2 pennsics,
including this rainy/windy one, and the internal metal frame, although
looking flimsy, is remarkably sturdy when roped out.
However, I wouldnt reccomend buying one. Ive had seam leak problems
from day one, and the poles for around the perimeter (its an oval) arent
bent correctly. Im STILL waiting for the replacement poles promised to
me this pennsic, and still havent seen them...sigh...
Robur of Roestoc
rmccown at world.std.com
An archaeologist will date any old thing.
From: kathy.duffy at buckys.com (Kathy Duffy)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavilions (period or periodish)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 18:58:00 GMT
Organization: *Bucky's BBS* (609)861-1131
C>> Do people have any experiences with such pavilions that they could share wi
>> me so that I might make a wise purchase (and keep my lady wife in the comfo
>> she so richly deserves)? Good or bad, I'm just curious what your experienc
>> are.
First our shire tried making a pavilion with a pattern. The sewing was
laborious and the fabric due to the amount needed was not cheap (we used
a nylon. But the framing was REALLY costly and we weren't happy with
it. The next year, they replaced the framing more$$$. It is
unfrequently used, hard to erect, etc.
So when it became time for my husband and I to get a pavilion, I
insisted on a Tentmaster's 15x17 oval or he could sign those divorce
papers. I would NEVER, NEVER, NEVER agree to make another pavilion. We
were superbly satisfied with the Tentmasters pavilion and will add a fly
for a covered outside area this coming year. It's cooler, roomy and
easier to erect than most mundane tents.
Lady Deirdre Ui Mhaille
EK, Shire of Barren Sands
kathy.duffy at buckys.com
From: Tim.Troupe at f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Troupe)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavilions (period or periodish)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 13:50:00 -0800
I purchased a pather lodge and The company has done wonders in mkkeing sure
I was happy. !-800-panther . I got their 21-24 marquee with 7' slanting
walls. Great tent.
Ailithir loenseoir Explorer of dragon's mist.
From: odlin at reed.edu (Iain Odlin)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavilions (period or periodish)
Date: 4 Nov 1994 08:09:47 GMT
Organization: The Stuffed Animal Trauma Team (We're Trained Professionals)
In article <783853242.AA02391 at jina.rain.com>,
Tim Troupe <Tim.Troupe at f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org> wrote:
>I purchased a pather lodge and The company has done wonders in mkkeing sure
>I was happy. !-800-panther . I got their 21-24 marquee with 7' slanting
>walls. Great tent.
Why do *I* have to be the one sounding a dissenting view all the time...
*sigh*
My tent too is a Panther. (12x14 Wall tent) Thus far, I've only used it
at Pennsic (the recreation of the parting -- and closing -- of the Red Sea
that happened earlier this year) and have a few problems with it, nearly
all of which I've discussed with Panther Reps.
First, it was late. So late that I only had two days to make the poles
for it before I left for Pennsic. No problem; just a little inconvenience
and shorter fingernails.
Second, the docs that came with it aren't terribly clear to someone who is
generally unclear on tents that you don't "throw into the air and watch
them assemble themselves as they come down." "Is *that* what's supposed
to happen?" was a common phrase during my tent's ...ahem... erection.
[As it was, after a few days I dropped the tent and raised it again.]
Again, no problem; just an inconvenience. There's only so much you can
say on paper. I just wish they'd've included a word or two on potential
pitfalls, common problems and how to deal with a hillside...
Third, no one ever told me that my $60 ground cloth was supposed to go
*over* a big plastic non-period rustly tarp, not replace it -- not even
the aforesaid docs. [To which I respond, "If I have to have the plastic
anyway, and the cloth is just covered with carpet, what the heck good is
it?"] Unsurprising to many in the audience, by the time the two weeks
of liquid sunshine at Pennsic was over, my ground cloth had mildewed
vigorously (and, yes, rotted through in six separate places -- be thou
warned). Salvageable? Ha!
This was a bit annoying.
Fouthly, my tent, after being up for two days, *shrank*. Is there one
word about this possibility in the docs? [My sarcastic reply: Can
Dolly Parton see her feet?] So, with twelve days of Pennsic left, my
tent's skin is smaller than the poles inside it. I lost nearly an inch
of length, and a full three inches of height. This made closing the doors
very interesting...
Mildly irritating.
And lastly, I take down my tent at the end of Pennsic and discover -- by
this time an anticlimax, actually -- that one of the tent loops had rotted
through. After a mere two weeks of use, something that *has* to hit the
ground rots to uselessness.
This I found a wee bit upsetting.
And now that it's home and sort-of loosely rolled up in my basement (it
was packed dry -- I made *damn* sure of that), you might think little else
of note could happen. Wrong. I just went down and unrolled it. Guess
what? Mildew resistance _doesn't work_. Little blots of it (looks like
a sprinkling of pepper) are all over the canvas.
Now I'm pissed.
Anyone have any suggestions for how to deal with this last problem? Do
I have to hermetically seal the damn thing in a pressure chamber to keep
it useable for more than (an estimated) three years?
The personel at Panther have all been very pleasant and well-spoken, but
have been generally unhelpful (besides assuring me that they've, "heard of
things like this happening, but not usually to that extreme...").
At least it didn't leak...
[That's next year, I'm sure.]
-Iain "But it looked marvellous, I must say" Odlin
------------------------- Iain Odlin, odlin at reed.edu -------------------------
42 Clifton Street, Portland ME 04101
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: steve.mercer at network.com (Steve E. Mercer)
Subject: Re: Pavilions (warning: contains advertisemnts)
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:47:33 GMT
A number of gentles have asked me for the address/phone number
of the different companies whose period tent catalogs I requested.
Here they are:
Panther Primitives
P.O. Box 32-mt
Normantown, WV 25267
(304)-462-7718
Advertised in Tournaments Illuminated:
(free) - Pavilions and Medieval tentage catalog
"... You owe it to yourself to check out Panther's Medieval
Tentage Catalog. It's free for the asking, so send or call
for your copy today."
Advertised in Panther's Medieval tentage catalog:
(US$2.00) - Panther's catalog number 9
"146 pages of historical era camp items including nearly 50
pages on our famous Panther Lodges. Medieval Pavilions,
French & indian War, Revolutionary War, Fur Trade Era, and
the Civil War Era are all covered. A special 8 page color
section shows tentage from several eras. Your $2.00 cost
is refundable with your first catalog order."
[Lots of good stuff in both catalogs - Justin]
======
Four Seasons Tentmasters
4221 Livesay Road
Sand Creek, MI 49279
(517)-436-6245
Advertised in Tournaments Illuminated:
(US$2.00) - Pavilions for use in the SCA, A Guide and Catalog
"...send for our Medieval Pavilion catalog showing the
variety available in true-to-period pavilions. ..."
[The information in the catalog is worth the US$2.00 - Justin]
======
Tentsmiths
Box 496C
North Conway, NH 03860
(603)-447-2344
Advertised in Tournaments Illuminated:
(US$2.00) - Tentsmiths Authentic Period Tentage Catalog
"... For a catalog please send $2.00 (refundable with purchase).
Satisfaction guaranteed."
[Their tents appear to be well-researched, but they do not
carry the exact style that I wanted. - Justin]
======
Medieval Miscellanea
6530 Spring Valley Dr.
Alexandria, Virginia 22312
(703)-642-1740
Advertised in Tournaments Illuminated:
(free) - Period Pavilion Flyer
"... Call Coryn for details, or to receive our free
pavilion flyer. Glowing references available throughout
the known world. ..."
[I requested their flyer months ago and still have not
received it yet. - Justin]
======
If you are planning to buy a tent, I would suggest that you
get information from as many different suppliers as you can,
so that you can compare quality, prices, guarantees, etc.
Also, talk to people who have tents and get their opinions.
---
Justin Silvanus
Barony of Nordskogen, Principality of Northshield, Middle Kingdom
Steve Mercer
steve.mercer at network.com
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: steve.mercer at network.com (Steve E. Mercer)
Subject: Re: Pavilions (period or periodish)
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 18:19:00 GMT
In article 9410252145462678307 at aol.com, DonaldH465 at aol.COM writes:
>Greetings to all good gentles who hear my words.
>
>Alas, I am afraid that my portable home has finally succumbed to one too many
>wars. Hoping to improve my status, as befits my semi-noble estate, I thought
>to purchase one of those pavilions that are based on period designs. I have
>seen advertisements from at least two companies, Panther Lodges and
>TentMasters.
A couple of months ago I requested catalogs from Tentmasters, Panther, Tentsmiths,
and Medieval Misc. The catalogs from Tentmasters and Panther arrived within days,
Tentsmiths came about a week or two later, and I never received anything from
Medieval Misc. My impressions follow:
Tentmasters: Appears to be strictly SCA tents. The catalog is definitely worth
the US$2.00 cost. I know several people with Tentmasters tents and they speak
highly of the quality of these tents.
fabric: one choice
styles: mitered corner octagon, double bell wedge pavillion "french military",
octagon pavillion, round pavillion, viking "long house" style pavillion,
"marquees" rectangular, "marquees" oval (rounded ends)
Tentsmiths: Authentic tents from SCA period and other periods.
fabric: one choice
styles: wall tent, awnings, tarps, diamond shelters, wedge tents, bell of arms,
round end marquee (straight or slant wall), square marquee, gable end marquee
tent, officer's marquee, mini pavilion, raised end faceted marquee, round
pavilions, medieval double bell wedge tents, sutler wedge tent, baker tent,
sibley tent, french double belled wedge, tipis, pyramid tents, viking tents,
conical tent
Panther: Authentic tents from SCA period and other periods. The free SCA
pavilion catalog has just the SCA style tents and stuff. They also have a
US$2.00 catalog loaded with all of their other tents and lots of other camping
gear. Much of the larger catalog is aimed more towards rendesvous period events
rather than SCA, but there's good stuff for us too.
fabric: four choices, plus available red, blue, black, green, and yellow canvas
styles: square marquee (rectangular), oval marquee (rounded end), round pavilion,
regent pavilion (mitred corner octacon), monarch pavilion, viking tent, norman-
saxon tent, french double belled wedge, wall tent, dining flys, personal pavilion,
canvas shower, canvas outhouse, wedge tent, military wedges, hunters/pyramid tent,
subaltern tent, british bell tent, sibley tent, civil war shelter half, civil
war officer's wall tent, baker style leanto, whelan style leanto, tipis, diamond
shelters
It seems that panther has just about everything that the others have, and
they have more sizes and more options. Prices for small tents are about
the same, but large tents are significantly less expensive at Panther.
Panther's catalogs contain photographs while the other's just have line
drawings. In my opinion Panther appears to be a larger more professional
company an I intend to purchase my pavilion from them.
---
Justin Silvanus
Barony of Nordskogen, Principality of Northshield, Middle Kingdom
Steve Mercer
steve.mercer at network.com
From: folo at prairienet.org (F.L. Watkins)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavilions (warning: contains advertisemnts)
Date: 8 Nov 1994 23:27:09 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
We are the satisfied users (for six years) and sales representatives
(for about five years) of RK Lodges. RK offers good quality at a
low price, with the only drawback being the number of styles
available.
Drop us a line for information; we do have a catalog of tentage
appropriate for medieval reenacting.
Yrs, Folo
--
Damin de Folo - F.L.Watkins - folo at prairienet.org
Baron Wurm Wald (MidRealm) - Commander Baldwin's (NWTA)
From: PETER.GORSHKOFF at rook.wa.com (peter gorshkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavilions (period or
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 1994 16:51:59 GMT
Organization: Knight-Line! (206) 565-0594
John Cathcart here...
Ea> three different tent manufacturers, Tentmasters, Tentsmiths, and
Ea> Panther. May I suggest that personal experience with a company and its
Add to this list: Yesterdays Trader's here in Western Washington...
Our Chapter has a rather fine Pavillion made by these folks that is about
3 years old and has been used each summer non-stop and is still holding
up quite well :-)
The Barony is it's third owner and plans on being it's last...We are very
satisfied with it.
**********************************************************************
MKA: Joel Card Barony of Blatha An Oir
SCA: John Cathcart (and proud if it!)
E-MAIL: sca.pierce at rook.wa.com Kingdom of An Tir
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From: connect at aol.com (CONNECT)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Info on period tents, please
Date: 17 Mar 1995 12:22:16 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Maistre Louis-Philippe Mitouard, Caer Galen, Outlands
Ben Baron, Ben_Baron at stortek.com
asks about period tents.
Good Sir,
May I suggest you get a hold of a copy of the Tentmaster's A Guide and
Catalogue of Pavilions for use in the SCA. Tentmaster's sells a variety
of period tents and pavilions, but if you want to make your own, the
catalogue does have some excellent tips.
Tentmaster's
4221 Livesay Rd
Sand Creek, MI 49279
(517) 436-6245
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From: DUNHAM%EUGLIB at mred.lane.EDU (PATSY DUNHAM)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Source for tent canvas
Date: 8 May 1995 13:47:19 -0400
Organization: The Internet
A gentle wrote in search of tent canvas, for making his own...
Try a good, big art store... Last time we made a tent, we came up a little
short and lo & behold, there was BIG stuff in the little art store near campus
(60"), the weight was right, and the prices were amazingly comparable to the
prices from the costumers' guild that we'd used to get the original mass of
fabric. You don't want to sew with canvas much bigger than that anyway!
Good luck,
Chimene
From: Garick Chamberlin <Garick at vonkopke.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: source of materials for period tents?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 23:17:05 +0100
Organization: Myorganisation
In article <676452416wnr at ogre.demon.co.uk>
dervish at ogre.demon.co.uk "Pip Sullivan" writes:
> I've noticed that many people make, rather than buy, tents for use at
> SCA events.
>
> Where do you get the canvas from?
>
> Can you get it in different colours, or do you dye it yourselves?
>
> Are there sources of designs for period tents, or do you try to figure
> it our as you go along?
>
> If I can get a source for materials and a 'pattern', I would like to
> try making my own tent/pavilion/marquee (space, time, and money
> allowing... :) )
Being as your here in the U.K. (this may be possible in the states too, I don't
know) you could try the trick my Lady and I lucked into. The Marquee rental
companies are required to stop renting marquees once the fire retardant is
past date. They are still very flame retardant, they just aren't insurable.
Ask around at such shops. My Lady and I got a 10' by 20' marquee top for L20
(about $34 for U.S. types). We also purchased canvas panels that the company
used as parts to the *gigantic* marquees. These pieces were 10' by 24'. We
cut them down to 7' by 24' and used them as walls.
Total cost for all rope, wood for the poles, thread, etc, and all of the
canvas was only L95 (about $155). It is a nice, large, and *very* sturdily
built pavilion and it only took us a weekend to put together.
Now all we have to do is decorate it.
--
Viscount Sir Garick von Kopke
p.s., we found out at its first event that its also quite waterproof
From: VUGC52A at prodigy.com (Dana Tweedy)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Viking Tents (was SCA in NOT authentic blah blah)
Date: 30 Jun 1995 05:32:22 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY
I bought a Viking Tent two years ago from Tentsmiths in New
Hampshire. It is 10X12 when set up. and 8' high at the ridgepole. The
fabric cost about $380, and I spent about $50 on the wood for the frame.
The tent is very comfortable, It stayed dry all during the monsoons at
last Pennsic, when everybody else's nylon tents were flooded. It sets up
easily, I can usually set It up by myself, but it goes a bit better if I
can get some help. Even though modern tents are cheaper in the short run,
I think a period tent more than makes up for cost in comfort and style.
Karl Rasmussen of Tvede, AOA,CSC
(Or, In pale, three frogs gules between two pallets engrailed Vert)
From: ansteorra at eden.com (7/7/95)
RE>pavilions
>I would love to have the name/address/review of
>the canvas merchant you mentioned, Catherine, to add to my tent-fabrics
>file.
Here it is for everyone, but remember, the more you order, the better price
you get, so it's best if several people order together. They deal with
companies, not individuals, so give them a name that sounds like a company
name: Tents R Us or something, or an SCA group could order a swatch packet
and then place a group order. Call and they will send you a large packet
of swatches and a catalog. Once you decide what you want, call back and
they will give you current prices based on the number of yards you order.
One thing to watch out for: if you order say 20 yards and there's 25 on
the bolt, they will send the entire bolt to you and charge you for the 5
extra yards. This is fairly common practice with wholesalers of fabric.
Trident Industrial Products
8555 W. McNab RD
Tamarac, FL 33321
800-327-1830
canvas, grommets, grommet setting tools, all sorts of
tent and outdoor fabrics, webbing, etc.
This is the firm from which Master Robyn Solarius ordered the canvas for
the new(er) Bryn Gwlad pavilion and Conor and I order the canvas for our
big blue and grey pavilion from them, too.
Just for your information, we sewed regular, untreated canvas on my home
Singer (it's called heavy duty, but you know how that goes) with no
problem. If you get the waterproofed canvas, you will need a metal-parts
machine, as someone else suggested (for you Stefan, I know this is no
problem). Once again, start small! We had to completely rearranged the
house and lived with this huge tent top in our living room for several
weeks--although it actually only took one weekend for me to put the top
together. A 10x10 shade top is a good starter project. If you put in a
reinforced strip wide enough for grommets between the top and the dagging,
you can always add sides later.
>I also recommend that large pavillions be made with detachable walls.
>This allows the tent to be stored in seperate bags or boxes.
Yes, definitely make detachable sides.
>Stefan li Rous
>Barony of Bryn Gwlad
>markh at risc.sps.mot.com
Catherine
Nan Bradford-Reid
The Department of English
The University of Texas
512-471-4991
n.b-reid at mail.utexas.edu
From: oldsma at clark.net (Manny Olds)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca,soc.history.medieval
Subject: Re: Plans/blueprints for tents wanted
Date: 12 Mar 1996 17:41:26 GMT
Organization: Persiflage Press
giacanelli at tovx01.to.infn.it wrote:
: They want to participate to some Live-action role playing game or a medieval
: history convention and they need to build some medieval tents or marquees.
:
: They know _how_ to do it and _what_ to use for that but they need drawings
: of tents parts or, even better, detailed plans or blueprints.
I just found a web page that has some diagrams. It is the online catalog
for Panther Pavilions, a company that sells these tents--perhaps they
could tell you more:
http://www.indirect.com/www/chivalry/p-17.html
The whole site seems to devoted to companies that sell "authentic"
medieval stuff.
I have also owned (and misplaced) a catalog from a US company called
Tentsmiths, that makes authentic tents for many different eras and which
will make custom tents to any plan you can document as authentic.
I will try to dig out their contact information.
Manny Olds <oldsma at clark.net> in Berwyn Heights, Maryland USA
From: "Dana J. Tweedy" <tweedyd at emh1.pa.net>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavillions
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:21:13 -0700
Chantal Pecourt wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone could tell me their opinion on the
> following subject. If one compares Tent Masters, Tent Smiths and Panther
> Pavilions, which one has the better quality pavillions and why?
> Any insight into this matter would be greatly appreciated as we
> are trying to choose a pavilion for Pennsic
>
> Aleyse
I can't really say which of these companies is best, I have a Viking
tent from Tentsmiths, and I am very pleased with it. However if you
haven't already ordered your tent it is probably too late for this
Pennsic. My tent took about three months from order to delivery.
Karl Rasmussen of Tvede
From: holsten at nature.berkeley.edu (Donna Holsten)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavillions
Date: 18 Jun 1996 18:01:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Chantal Pecourt <cpecourt at mhv.net> wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone could tell me their opinion on the
>following subject. If one compares Tent Masters, Tent Smiths and Panther
>Pavilions, which one has the better quality pavillions and why?
I don't know anything about Tent Smiths. A couple of Estrellas ago,
during a Very Windy and Stormy night (go figure, at Estrella...), the
only pavilions left standing were the Tent Masters. And, at a recent
Very Windy Pavilion-kite-flying event in the West, a 25 foot Eucalyptus
branch (which took about 8 men to move) fell onto a Panther pavilion,
and the pavilion didn't even blink. Seems like both types are pretty
well constructed...
Joanna
From: dyanthrall at aol.com (DyanThrall)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavillions
Date: 20 Jun 1996 10:04:16 -0400
> I was wondering if anyone could tell me their opinion on the
>following subject. If one compares Tent Masters, Tent Smiths and Panther
>Pavilions, which one has the better quality pavillions and why?
I have a 22 x 15 Tent masters. It is a great pavilion. It has never
leaked, It has held through terrible storms, I have been able to get spare
parts easily and quickly. I have been very pleased. What I really liked
about it was, that it came in a box with all the pieces and clear
instructions. I didn't need an engineering degree to put it up, and I
didn't have to supply anything at all. They are pricey though. I have a
friend with a Panther and he is as giddy about his Pavillion as I am about
mine, but his giddy cost about $500 less.
Nothing beats canvas in a storm.
Dyan
From: caradoc at neta.com (John Groseclose)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavillions
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:24:26 -0700
holsten at nature.berkeley.edu (Donna Holsten) wrote:
<snip>
> I don't know anything about Tent Smiths. A couple of Estrellas ago,
> during a Very Windy and Stormy night (go figure, at Estrella...), the
> only pavilions left standing were the Tent Masters. And, at a recent
> Very Windy Pavilion-kite-flying event in the West, a 25 foot Eucalyptus
> branch (which took about 8 men to move) fell onto a Panther pavilion,
> and the pavilion didn't even blink. Seems like both types are pretty
> well constructed...
I was there... that's when I decided I wanted a TentMasters pavilion. Two
years later, after a windfall (someone decided to try and screw me out of
workman's wages... double penalty in AZ!) I bought one. It's seen three
Estrellas and a number of smaller events, and is currently in need of a
washing/cleaning.
Handy tip: unless you've got a truck or Suburban to haul the thing around
in, get the sectioned poles. The perimeter poles for a 15' mitred corner
pavilion are 9' long. The center pole is 11' (comes sectioned
automatically). Weighs about 110#, without a shade fly.
I loaned it to a household member for last Estrella, and he says he's GOT
to get one.
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavillions
From: una at bregeuf.stonemarche.org (Honour Horne-Jaruk)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 12:04:06 EDT
Chantal Pecourt <cpecourt at mhv.net> writes:
> I was wondering if anyone could tell me their opinion on the
> following subject. If one compares Tent Masters, Tent Smiths and Panther
> Pavilions, which one has the better quality pavillions and why?
> Any insight into this matter would be greatly appreciated as we
> are trying to choose a pavilion for Pennsic
>
> Aleyse
Respected friend:
Based on my own experience _Only_ :
Tentmasters has the widest range of standard designs, and thus, on anything
absolutely standard, the best reponse time. Custom stuff from them is
dicey- but they will keep fixing it till it's right, even if that's three
years and twenty phone calls later.
Tentsmiths is ace on custom orders, has fewer layers of bureaucracy, and
charges less. They have fewer pre-mades and thus can't do as wide a range
of rush orders. They're amazingly courteous and very devoted to quality.
Panther does colors, and thus has the closest to anything even marginally
historically accurate for the medieval/renaissance eras. can't comment on
response time or custom quality, since I haven't bought from them yet.
Medieval Miscellania, which you didn't mention but they advertise in TI,
does the prettiest-from-a-distance, and lightest, tents. From closer than
40 feet distance, however, it's pretty obvious these are synthetic fabrics
with coal-tar colors. The lightness is partly caused by the metal-pipe
frame, so they feel even less real from the inside.
As always, other people's milage may vary. My off-the-cuff opinion
is to check Panther first, if you want colors. If you live in an area where
mildew is endemic, don't forget that synthetics mildew too- make sure the
fabric's treated for that.
Good luck.
Alizaunde, Demoiselle de Bregeuf
(Friend) Honour Horne-Jaruk, R.S.F.
From: celtic at sover.net (Stuart Joseph)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavillions
Date: 2 Jul 1996 19:51:59 GMT
Organization: Celtic Cultures
> Based on my own experience _Only_ :
>Panther does colors, and thus has the closest to anything even marginally
>historically accurate for the medieval/renaissance eras. can't comment on
>response time or custom quality, since I haven't bought from them yet.
Greetings!
We sell Panther Pavilions and really believe in their product and customer
service, if we didn't, we wouldn't be selling them.
We decided on Panther after talking to lots of people who have their pavilions
and they all were greatly satisfied.
We personally own 3 of their tents: an 18' X 20' marquee that we use for
merchanting; a French double bell wedge for sleeping (it is easy to set-up and
we use it for weekend events when our Tentmaster tent is too much to set-up),
and a baker tent that we use for a cook tent and for civil war events.
The quality on the tents is extrememly high and they come with a 30 day no
questions asked money-back guarentee and a five year warranty on the tent.
Our tents are made from Sunforger canvas that is pre-shrunk and mildew
resistant, the cook tent also is flame retardent (for obvious reasons!:-D), in any case, Panther (and I agree) does not recommend buying a regular canvas tent
since it can shrink up to 15%- it is also liable to mildew.
The Panther prices are lower than Tentsmith and you have the option of making
your own poles or getting the set-up package from them.
Panther has a commitment to customer satisfaction that is very impressive- any
problems (they were minor) that came up with our tents or our customers tents
were handled expeditiously and they checked to be sure that the problem was
handled.
Whatever pavilion you decide to go with, remember that a period style and
material is more comfortable than a nylon tent, don't cost much more, not much
harder to set-up, and they look great- lending a wonderful air to whatever event
you attend.
In order to encourage people to get a period pavilion, we are offering a discount on Panther Pavillions.
Laird Steuart Martin Mac Donald (mka Stuart Joseph)
Celtic Cultures
www.sover.net
From: deewolff at aol.com (DeeWolff)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavillions
Date: 2 Jul 1996 21:03:26 -0400
We too own a Panther tent . We have had it for one year and still sing
their praises. They are the least expensive. are very easy to put up (2
people/20 minutes) and they stand behind their product 100%. We ordered it
in May 1995 and had it within 3 weeks (I hear it may take longer the
closer it is to Pennsic)
Happy Pavillion shopping !!!
Andrea MacIntire
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: rubyshoe at world.std.com (Bill Whitley)
Subject: Re: Pavilion hunting: advice appreciated!
Organization: Ruby Shoes Studio
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:40:57 GMT
My Lady and I swear by (but not at) Tentmasters. They have a very good
product, excellent production values, and good advice. They also have a
model with an interior wooden frame construction, if that is one of your
criteria. Talk with them by phone, their ad is in TI (and they will be
at Pennsic, as usual). Ask for their catalog. They are not inexpensive,
but I feel you will get what you pay for.
toshi
From: mjc at telerama.lm.com (Monica Cellio)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pavilion hunting: advice appreciated!
Date: 25 Jul 1996 11:42:33 -0400
Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh, PA USA
Something like 8 years ago I bought a pavillion from RKE Lodges, who were
in Minnesota or perhaps Montana (sorry) at tthe time. I no longer have
contact information. However, the pavillion was very well-made, was
delivered on time, was already seam-sealed, and was a small-scale custom
order that many places probably wouldn't bother with. I had to make my
own poles, but that wasn't a big deal. If you run into these folks,
definitely take a look.
Ellisif
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mjc/ellisif.html
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: rubyshoe at world.std.com (Bill Whitley)
Subject: Re: Pavilion hunting: advice appreciated!
Organization: Ruby Shoes Studio
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:40:57 GMT
My Lady and I swear by (but not at) Tentmasters. They have a very good
product, excellent production values, and good advice. They also have a
model with an interior wooden frame construction, if that is one of your
criteria. Talk with them by phone, their ad is in TI (and they will be
at Pennsic, as usual). Ask for their catalog. They are not inexpensive,
but I feel you will get what you pay for.
toshi
From: Ingerith of Egilsey
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: More onPeriod Tents
Date: 23 Aug 1996 18:21:32 -0700
Well, my lord & I have had a Tentmasters oval pavilion for 4 years now, and we
are very satisfied with it. It was dry and comfortable during the Pennsic a couple years back that was so wet, and has held firm during the rarer storms on other years. Tentmasters is about 15 miles from our house, so we drove down and
picked out our pavillion on site, and picked it up when it was made. Wilhelm of
Brennan was recovering from a stroke at the time, but gave us good advice on
setting it up, and his lady gave hints on painting it, with free canvas samples to practice on. It was a very enjoyable experience, but of course not everyone
can pick one up in person. As far as set up, ours is 13x19 oval, with two
2 piece 13 foot center poles, and a 6 ft ridge pole. My lord and I can set it up in 20 minutes, with only one extra set of hands when raising the center poles
and tightening the guy lines. You set up the high-wind lines as guy lines at
first, then the center poles are stable and you can put in the side poles at your leisure. We use ours at Pennsic, usually at one other camping event per year, and we use the top canopy only at my parents annual lobster boil. 3 picnic tables fit under it comfortably. So much for my experience . . . next?
Ingerith of Egilsey/
Julie Johnson
From cat at va.pubnix.com Wed Aug 28 12:57:26 1996
Date: 23 Aug 1996 12:57:44 -0400
From: Cat Stanton <cat at va.pubnix.com>
To: sca at mc.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: More on Period Tents
Our camp had four Panther pavilions during this Pennsic. All of
them held up very well during the Thursday night storm. The largest
one had a few stake integrity problems, but those were easily taken
care of, and it housed the dozen people in the camp at the time
quite comfortably. We suspected that the few problems the largest
pavilion had were just due to it's sheer size (18' x 24' I think)
as the slightly smaller pavilions were solid as a rock during the
rain and wind gusts.
The next morning, as I was waking up, we heard some folks walking by
our camp discussing damage to other encampments and merchants. One
spoke of how a pole in the center of a merchant's tent just snapped.
The other one said, as he was right outside our tent, "These are
Panther pavilions. I've never seen one of them go down in a storm
yet."
Nope, don't work for Panther and have no affiliation with them. I was
just impressed by the quality of their pavilions (being as this was my
first Pennsic and I'd never even really "camped" before...).
Cat
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: orilee ireland-delfs <orilee_j_ireland-delfs at wb.xerox.com>
Subject: Re: More onPeriod Tents
Organization: Xerox
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 17:02:02 GMT
We bought a Panther Primitives 16x18 marquis (rectangluar with straight walls
and blue trim on the rain flap) this year - our dream realized.
After camping for years in canvas/nylon tents, I was amazed at the space and
the coolness of the pavilion. It takes about half an hour to put up (although
I've never really timed it) with 4 people. We've never tried it with just the
two of us and I don't think the two of us could get the center poles up
without help.
We purchased it because several friends have the same or similar pavilions
from Panther and we were really impressed by them.
My real likes - no zippers to break, no "lip" of tent to have to step over to
get in or out, roomy - we divide ours into rooms for us and the girls (we have
two daughters) and a common room, and it weathered the thunderstorm at Pennsic
with no problems (our old tent had stretched enough that rain had a tendancy
to puddle on the roof - which meant someone had to watch it every minute, day
or night).
It packs into 4 Rubbermaid trunks - 2 trunks for the walls and ropes, 1 big
trunk for the roof, and one trunk for the tarps, interior walls, etc. It all
fits very nicely tied to the top of the van and leaves space inside for
everything else.
Orianna (& Fridrikr)
AEthelmearc, East
From: ANGUS <Angus at gorilla.net>
Organization: Gorilla
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: More onPeriod Tents
Date: 2 Sep 96 03:57:46 GMT
>How do I get in touch with Panther Primitives? Can someone give me their address?
>
>Mara/Corbie
Panther Primatives
P.O. BOX 32-MT
Normantown, WV. 25267
(304) 462-7718
Angus....
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: Steven Boley <SJBoley at switch.com>
Subject: Re: Question about Period Equipment
Organization: US&S
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:50:14 GMT
Try A Gather in Time. They do great tents. My tent is very peiod
looking and withstood the Monsoon of Pennsic 25 with little water getting
inside. I wouldn't think Bryanna would mind me posting this for her.
And since she rents tents, I'm sure she has used ones.
Cal 412-258-2172
SCA Name: Bryanna
Mundane: Jody Boyd
--
DeinBruder Alaric Von Konigsberg
From: Jane Massey <jmassey at exis.net>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re:Tents
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:48:56 -0500
I know of two sites you might to check out.
Tentsmiths at htt://www.wilmont.unh.edu/~njcross/tentsmiths/tents.html
or
Multitak (which has links to several tent companies
http://www.cm-net/exhibit/supp/72/index.html
---Lavender
From: David.Calafrancesco at drakkar.mhv.net (David Calafrancesco)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Tent/Pavilion material available
Date: 08 Mar 97 02:56:38 GMT
q1001001 at aol.com wrote in a message to All:
>My current pavilion (17 x 17 mitered square) is made of cotton canvas
>because I could get it for about $4 or $5 a yard in 60 inch width.
> I have recently found a source for hemp canvas
> and wondered if any of you have used this and
> can compare it to the alternatives. I'm told
> that hemp naturally resists mildew. Is anyone
> able to speak from experience regarding the
> accuracy of this claim?
qa> I now have access to a 45% polyester, 55% cotton that is
qa> Water repellent, Mildew resistant, fire retardant( meets 3
qa> CSFM levels: NFPA-701, CPAI-84, and FMVSS-302 ) and comes in
qa> the color of your choosing. It is currently about $10 per
qa> yard, but at higher yardages, the price is negotiable.
qa> There are many different fabrics available, and they are all
qa> different prices.
When I purchased the canvas for my yurt two pennsics ago, I was able to locate
a 100% cotton army duck, sunforger marine boat shrunk with FMVSS-302 (possibly
the others) for circa $2.50 per yard for 54" wide. I have enough left that my
current project will be a smaller weekend pavilion.
The source was ITEX and you can email me for a contact phone number.
100% cotton (and the yurt design) allowed me to sleep in the yurt till after 2
in the afternoon during pennsic 24.
Haraldr Bassi, Frosted Hills, East
haraldr at drakkar.mhv.net
Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2
dave at drakkar.mhv.net
|Fidonet: David Calafrancesco 1:2624/306
|Internet: David.Calafrancesco at drakkar.mhv.net
Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 17:55:57 -0600 (MDT)
From: John or Fraya Davis <gameroom at infowest.com>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: tent canvas source?
>Where do I go to get tent canvas, fireproofed, 60" wide, 32 yards? What am
>I looking for in terms of weight etc? What's a good price?
>
>Henry, Innocent of Sewing machines and Their Ilk
I'm working on a fabric co-op to help keep fabric costs down. Canvas is one
I'm looking into. Check out our website:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/gameroom/fabric.html
I'll put you on our mailing list.
In service and friendship,
Gillean Fhlaithmhail
(gil-yawn lah-hool)
MOAS/Chronicler for the Incipient Shire of Ard Ruadh (St. George, Utah) of
Artemisia
Subject:
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:19:07 -0600
From: "Steve Nolan" <Snolan at tex-is.net>
To: "Stefan li Rous" <stefan at texas.net>
Spinning winds pavilions. We make the best quality of tents with many
choices of colors, materials, sizes, shapes and accessories to choose from.
We are not a cookie cutter company are gold is to do service and color the
known world with beautifully colored tents with out all of the extra cost.
Are prices are as flat as that can be. Tents shouldn't cost an arm and a leg
that's what battle's are for! Call me for a quote 409-899-1488, e-mail
marguerite at tex-is.net, or my web site is www.spinningwinds.com
Lady Marguerite des Fleur
_____________________________________________
Spinning Winds Pavilions and Tents
www.spinningwinds.com
Marguerite at tex-is.net
Subject: BG - Period Pavilions
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 23:10:56 MST
From: "Jason Brashear" <jason at shield.com>
To: <bryn-gwlad at Ansteorra.ORG>
From: Carey <carey at shield.com>
>Pug Bainter wrote:
>>
>> Dottie Elliott said something that sounded like:
>> >>>1) The pavilions for gate, children's activities, etc. The children's
>> >>> should be larger than 10'x10'. They should all have sides. I rather
>> >>> like the idea of period pavilions.
>> >>So who's willing to do some research into period pavilion construction and
>> >>costs?
>>
>snip
>
> Jason and Hilery are distributors for a tent (including period)
>manufactures...........didn't anyone know that....
>
> Key Connor
Yes, my husband and I are distributors for "Tentsmiths" although it does
not affect the cost to buy it through us. Jason and I purchased our tent not
long before we became involved with Bryn Gwlad simply because we love to
camp and we are both fascinated by things of the renaissance time period.
Knowing that a period pavillion would be pricey we did allot of research on
them to assure that we would not regret such a whimsical splurge. We are
very pleased with our tent and highly recommend Tentsmiths to anyone looking
to buy a pavillion. Tentsmiths makes several different varieties of tents
imitating those from the 1200's to the 19th century. There are three, I
think, that would best suit the baronies' needs; the Medieval Double Belled
Wedge Tent, the Round End Marquee and the Rectangular Marquee.
The Medieval Double Belled Wedge Tent is found in many medieval
paintings and sketches. The door is in the center of the body offering
much useable floor space while taking up no extra area for guy lines. Their
triangular cross section makes them strong against fierce weather. This tent
only needs 2 vertical poles and one ridge pole making it easy to transport.
The largest size available is 12' in width, 23' in length and 10' in height
and cost $645 with the fire resistant treatment. The smallest is 10'x16'x8".
With the fire resistance it runs $430.
Our favorite is the round end marquee. It is an absolutely beautiful
tent. The owners of Tentsmiths studied marquees in museums before coming out
with this one. Wooden toggles are used to attach the walls and canvas loops
are used instead of grommets. This makes it easier to repair without loosing
strength. The design of the Round End Marquee was originated to maximize
space while at the same time making the transportable baggage as little as
possible. Only two vertical poles and a ridge pole are needed. The steeply
sloped roof allows rain to drain quickly, and the tent to withstand
tremendous wind loads. Tall walls with a shallow roof pitch(as found in
rectangular tents with flattened roofs) gives the tent an airplane effect.
When the wind blows, lift is created, raising the tent off of it's poles and
becomes very dangerous. There are many variations, such as awnings, that
can be added to this design . We have a Round End Marquee ourselves, so feel
free to take a look the next time we have it up. It is white with a
green-edged castle dagging. The largest one available 18' by 30' with a 6'
wall height for $1,875 with the fire resistant treatment. The smallest one
is 10' wide and 15'long with a wall height of 5'6". With the fire resistant
treatment it is $880
Rectangular Marquees can be found in historical sketches from the
Roman times throughout the Medieval era and into the 19th century. Everyone
pretty much knows what they look like; big and square with perimeter poles.
Tentsmiths' rectangular marquees have steep roofs to protect against the
weather. They offer a great amount of usable floor space for furniture and
the walls can be lifted like awnings to provide shade. Allot of customizing
can be done to this one to suit the needs of the barony. The biggest one is
19'8 by 27'2" with a 7 foot wall height and a 5 foot roof rise for $2,495
with the fire resistant treatment. The smallest one without being too small
according to you is 11'3"x14' with a 6' wall height and a 4' roof rise for
$850 (fire resistant).
Tentsmiths uses 10.38 ounce Army Duck Canvas which is a very tightly
woven, high thread count fabric. The canvas is preshrunk and finished with
Sunforger so that it is a mildew resistant, water repellent medium. Touching
the tent while it is wet will not cause the tent to leak. Tentsmiths also
offers their tents in a flame resistant finish. It doesn't make it fire
proof, but does provide a margin of safety. The tents have double sewn,
flat-felled seams, and all of the seams, reinforcements, and edges are
finished. The doors overlap 6 inches and tie inside and out. Mud flaps,
historically called sod flaps or "rot cloths" are standard on all tents and
are double hemmed on all sides and sewn to the inside of the bottom of the
walls. This makes the tent close to the ground and weather tight. The
result is an extremely sturdy, long lasting tent that can easily handle
tough weather. Our tent has been through a few storms in the short time that
we have owned it and has held beautifully. In addition all Tentsmiths tents
are warrenteed to the original purchaser. If, when you receive the tent or
set up the tent, it is not what you expected, Tentsmiths will take it back
no questions asked. They will refund your payment or build you a new, more
suitable tent, at your option. The Sunforger treated fabric is warranteed
for three years, the seams and stitching for five. Tentsmiths has done
repair work on seventeen year old tents that were cared for by their owners,
for free-and always will.
Well hopefully I have given you some good information to think about.
Let Me and Jason know if you are interested. I will be at fighter practice
with a catalog.
Hilary Brashear
From: DDFr at best.com (David Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Canvas
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 09:24:54 -0800
Organization: Santa Clara University
Dragon <dragonmoon at erols.com> wrote:
>James Morrow wrote:
> Is there a place on the Internet to Order inexpensive Canvas? I
> want to make a Tent for Events.
I ordered some canvas from Itex: 800 525 7058. The price was pretty
reasonable, and it looks very good--tightly woven cotton canvas,
flameproof and water resistant. They are familiar with the SCA.
David/Cariadoc
--
David Friedman
DDFr at Best.com
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 13:18:00 -0500
From: blues <blues at mail.ic.net>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Canvas
James Morrow wrote:
> Is there a place on the Internet to Order inexpensive Canvas? I want to
> make a Tent for Events.
>
> Achbar
Jas. Townsend & Sons sells canvas, and as I recall the prices weren't
too bad.
Gunnbjorn
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:32:32 MST
From: "Trish Kvamme" <ladyoftherose at hotmail.com>
Subject: ANST - pavilion flying and other summer sports
To: Ansteorra at ansteorra.org
I just wanted to take a moment here to brag on my newest apprentice Lady
Marguerite of Spinning Winds Pavillions.
After the WeatherLord storm this weekend, all of the tents she has made on
site were still standing, and everything inside the ones in my camp were
dry.
I am proud of you girl!
Larissa
From: Bill Schongar <bschonga at cisco.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Tentsmith Pavillions - Good, Bad, or Ugly?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:55:26 -0400
Jack wrote:
> Anyone have first hand experience with a Tentsmiths pavillion?
Have a double-bell wedge from Tentsmiths, no complaints whatsoever.
The seams are well-sewn, it sets up easily, and it came well
before the scheduled delivery date.
If we end up buying a second, smaller tent, it'll be from
Tentsmiths as well.
-Liam
From: "tweedyd" <tweedyd at cvn.net>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Tentsmith Pavillions - Good, Bad, or Ugly?
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:22:51 -0400
Jack <none at all.net> wrote
> I'm purchasing a pavillion from either Tentmasters, Panther, or Tentsmiths.
> I've seen the first two manufacturers' product but don't know much about the
> latter. Anyone have first hand experience with a Tentsmiths pavillion?
>
> Jack
I have had a Viking Wedge tent from Tentsmith's for the last 7 years. I has
held up very well, and It still looks nearly new. I would give Tentsmith's
a hearty recommendation, and feel they do a good job for a reasonable price.
Karl Rasmussen of Tvede, AOA, CSC, QOC, Master Chirurgeon.
From: "Elise A. Fleming" <alysk at ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Tentsmith Pavillions - Good, Bad, or Ugly?
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 08:07:48 -0400
> I'm purchasing a pavillion from either Tentmasters, Panther, or Tentsmiths.
> I've seen the first two manufacturers' product but don't know much about the
> latter. ANyone have first hand experience with a Tentsmiths pavillion?
I've owned two. They are well made, don't leak, the folk are friendly
and helpful. I'm particularly fond of the quality. Where one tent edge
meets another, they've provided plenty of overlap. Go for it! :-)
Alys Katharine
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: whitleys at world.std.com (Bill Whitley)
Subject: Re: Tentsmith Pavillions - Good, Bad, or Ugly?
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:41:42 GMT
> Jack <none at all.net> wrote in message
> I'm purchasing a pavillion from either Tentmasters, Panther, or Tentsmiths.
> I've seen the first two manufacturers' product but don't know much abou the
> latter. ANyone have first hand experience with a Tentsmiths pavillion?
We own a Tentmasters oval and a Tentsmiths wedge. I'd *strongly* recommend
either manufacturer. I'd buy from either one again in a heartbeat. I
believe their quality and attention to detail are uniformly excellent, but
I think you might get slightly more personal service from Tentsmiths...
toshi
From: "Michael Carroll" <SirMike at rochester.rr.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Tentsmith Pavillions - Good, Bad, or Ugly?
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:56:31 GMT
I own a Tentmasters oval marquee and a Panther rectangular marquee. The
Tentmasters pavillion is far superior. I also have had some experience with
a large order of Panther pavillions purchased by a friend of mine, and
though the pavillions themselves are of a standard level of quality...the
pole packages were (if not for the great expense) laughably inferior. I
would HIGHLY recommend that, if you select Panther, be very careful about
purchasing their setup kit.
Michael
From: "Anastacia" <anastacia at mail.lanset.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Tents and Storms
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:32:31 -0700
Greetings From Anastacia's Garb and Pavilions.
Grand Opening prices on pavilion of all sizes just in time for the camping
season.
(And now is the time to order 12th Night clothing, great prices for Quality
work Made to Measure.)
I have been making DarkClaw Pavilions (named as such for my household) for
10 yrs. and just finished number 90. I have never had one come down in the
high wind or leak in a rain storm. Many have traveled to 30 Yr Celebration,
Pennsic and withstood the high winds of our California Coast . They are
being lived in in 7 Kingdoms and are based on period patterns.
My prices include:
Pavilion roof, with your choice of 6 colors for the drip ring;
Walls, these attach to the roof with S hooks and have 'twill tape' ties to
drop them to the half way point;
Matching attachable awning,
Set-up Kit ; includes all poles, ropes, rope flags, 12 in. stakes and heavy
washers and a hammer in a canvas bag for storage.
750$ -- a 15 ft. Round; Eight - 6 ft. side poles, Two - 5.5 ft awning
poles, one 10 ft. center pole)
950$ -- a 21 ft by 15 ft. marquee style; Ten 6 ft. side poles, Two 5.5 Ft
awning poles; two 10 ft. center poles)
1050$ -- a 27 ft by 15 ft marquee style; Ten 6 ft. side poles, Two 5.5 Ft
awning poles; two 10 ft. center poles)
950$ -- 15 ft. square; Twelve 6ft. side poles; three 5.5 ft awning poles.
1 11' center pole.
1150$ -- 21 by 15 rectangle; Fourteen 6ft. side poles; three 5.5 ft awning
poles. Two 11 Ft. center poles.
No ridge poles are needed.
Center poles are split, with a metal splicing band attached to the 6 ft
piece.
Please allow 4 - 6 weeks for delivery of you new home.
Payment plans available but I can not accept credit cards.
I fully guarantee my work and know that you will spend many years enjoying
your DarkClaw Pavilion.
Prices do not include shipping and handling.
Anastacia's Garb and Pavilions e-mail me at
anastacia at mail.lanset.com or call (916)728-1066 .
From: "j'lynn yeates" <jyeates at realtime.net>
To: <bryn-gwlad at ansteorra.org>
Subject: BG - materials ... addendum
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:30:50 -0500
for the individual seeking a source of nylon's (presumably for
tentage) ...
i knew i had this link stashed somewhere (have used them for similar
material needss before ... online catalog, direct ship to door,
accepts ccards, wide selection of fabrics and other tent & tarp
components)
check em out for your tech material needs ... reminds me, need to
order some more insect netting for next season
'wolf
From: "C.R.Daniels, Inc. - Contracts" <cms997 at crdaniels.com>
To: <stefan at florilegium.org>
Subject: tent canvas
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:41:39 -0400
Mr. Harris:
I represent a company in Maryland called C.R. Daniels, Inc. I am also
working this autumn at the Maryland Renaissance Festival. My company
sells canvas in several different weights, from 7 ounce to 30 ounce in
varying widths, and all of our colored canvas (available in 10 ounce, 15
ounce and 18 ounce) come with a light water, fire and mildew resistant
finish. We have had several customers use our goods for tents and
pavilions, and we price per customer, so that if someone buys 200 yards,
they will pay less than someone who is buying 10 yards. This is ideal
for those buying tents, but I also felt that if a few SCA members got
together to purchase 50 yards or so to get the discount and split it for
use in making clothing, bags, covers for modern items (like food coolers
and trashcans), or for making bedrolls, it would be a chance to buy
wholesale at a fair price with attentive service.
I would be happy to speak to anyone who wants pricing, information, or
samples of our goods. Please feel free to share my name and number with
anyone you think may be interested.
Thank you for your time!
Cordially,
Danielle Lyon
C.R. Daniels, Inc.
1-800-933-2638 ext.2463#
www.crdaniels.com
fabric at crdaniels.com
From: David Friedman <ddfr at best.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: now canvas (was Re: tent/pavilion question)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:57:23 GMT
ekscholar at aol.com (EKScholar) wrote:
> I've decided on a design, now to look for a source for canvas. I've been told
> the best to get is Sunforger and I've been able to find it, but the prices
> (hamiltondrygoods.com and jastown.com) vary widely, from $4/yd to $7/yd for
> the ~1 yard width stuff to $6/yd for 58" wide.
>
> Which width is better?
You should try Itex (800 525-7058), which is likely to give you a better
price than that, provided they have a roll of an appropriate length.
I used the 58" width for my pavillion, since it substantially reduces
the amount of sewing to be done.
--
David/Cariadoc
http://www.best.com/~ddfr/Medieval/Medieval.html
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:00:40 -0400
From: rmhowe <MMagnusM at bellsouth.net>
To: "Tanya Guptill - Historical Tents." <tguptill at mail.teleport.com>,
"- Stephan's Florilegium" <stefan at texas.net>
Subject: [Fwd: [MR] New tent merchant]
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [MR] New tent merchant
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:30:16 -0500
From: thurman <HillTH at navair.navy.mil>
To: Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Greetings Gentles all,
First, if you will, the standard disclaimer. I have no vested interest
in the merchants mentioned here, and patronizing them will result in no
monetary gain to myself. I have searching the net of late for a new
(period) tent. One of the sites I happened to find was Tents by Nizam.
Nizam has been in the tent business in Pakistan since 1869. They have
now teamed up with Reliable Tents of Billings MT, to market tents on
our shores. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer any personal
experience with the products of either Nizam or Reliable. I have
included a link to Nizam's site showing their current Medieval
offerings. I am particularly interested in hearing opinions on the tents
labeled "Medieval Type II", and "Pyramid Tent". They are somewhat
different than what I have seen before, having to my eye a distinct
middle eastern flavor. The link to Nizam is,
http://www.nizamcanvas.com/med.htm , and Reliable can be found at
http://www.reliabletent.com/ . I emailed Nizam for details and got a
nice mail back from them, plus a personal call from Reliable. They are
very interested in marketing to the SCA, and are currently looking at
establishing themselves at Pennsic. Nizam told me that they are readying
a container for shipment early in the summer, and will include medieval
offerings if the interest is there. If anyone would like any more detail
of my correspondence, just email me and I'll respond privately.
Thorfinn
From: Mitch Utsey [mutsey at redsword.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:27 AM
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Fabric source
I worked as a tent maker for a couple of years. Both companies used the same
supplier: Astrup. I strongly recommend using a marine boat shrunk canvas like
Sunforger. Astrup's website is : http://www.astrup.com/
They are pretty good folks to work with, and most are quite knowledgeable. For a
Medieval pavilion, I'd avoid most of their Tent and Shelter Fabric, as they are
not really meant for the game that we play...
If you don't have a good, strong industrial sewing machine, you might see about
renting one. You can REALLY trash a home unit with just a part of a pavilion...
housedragonstar wrote:
> I have been toying with the idea of making a new tent. Along those lines, I
> think that I have found a potential source for some really cheap canvas.
>
> Before I get my hopes up and organize a purchase for myself and others, I
> would like to know if anyone else has had dealings with this company in the
> past.
>
> It is Magna Fabrics in New Jersey. Their web site is at
> http://www.magnafabrics.com.
>
> Medb Liath
From: Jhan Knebel <rixende at mail2noble.com>
Date: May 6, 2004 8:40:01 PM CDT
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org, ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Comments and suggestions requested
We have and 18 X 24 oval Marquee from Panther, and love it! It has a 9
foot ridge pole, which is a little large for most people, but it gives
us more room in the center of the pavillion for entertaining.
Tomas can set it up by himself (no help whatsoever) in 3 hours (that's
with all the poles and stakes). Three people set it up at Crown tourney
in 45 minutes in the dark.
Their warranty policy is wonderful as well. We only had to pay for the
shipping after someone backed over one of the 18 inch Panther stakes at
Bordermarch Baronial and caused the pavillion to tear. (Pay for seam
engineering, it's worth it.)
A good company that is good to deal with.
Rixende
<-----Original Message----->
With the permission of my Seneschal, I am posting this request here.
My Shire is looking at getting a new pavilion and are currently looking at a
15' X 24' or a 15' X 27' oval marquee pavilions from both Tentsmiths and
Panther Pavilions.
If anyone has a pavilion from either of these companies or any other
company, please send me your comments or suggestions.
Domhnall Dubh O'Ruairc
Herald Shire of Loch Ruadh
From: Keith Jefferson <scubadoo74 at earthlink.net>
Date: May 6, 2004 9:23:30 PM CDT
To: "'Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.'" <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Comments and suggestions requested
Ok I did a lot of research on the pavilion issue. I checked the thread
count, the engineering and the sizes. I found that Tent masters did the
best job for what my canton needed. The canton of Dragons Fire Tor
bought a 15x 30. It's oval and the largest size oval they make and we
love it. When you check the thread count make sure that the count is
equal 40x40. This keeps stretching down. Most tent manufacturing
companies use 20x40 thread count. The only draw back is the tent is
white but has lovely trim they put on. They can come with out walls or
poles. (They charge WAY too much for poles) The price for poles should
be about $6-7 each for the perimeter poles and about 35-40 for center
poles. But that's another topic and if you want more information please
feels free to contact me. Oh and I forgot that ours is 7 feet tall at
the perimeter <no knocking your head>. They even extended the wall for a
small charge to match the taller tent.
Lord Guyon Dupre
Btw here is their small web site. If you want their catalog they will
send you one.
http://www.geocities.com/tentmasters
From: gltoh <gloth at aol.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Comments and suggestions requested
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 00:21:04 GMT
Organization: Road Runner - NYC
Steve K. Rourke wrote:
> With the permission of my Seneschal, I am posting this request here.
>
> My Shire is looking at getting a new pavilion and are currently looking at a
> 15' X 24' or a 15' X 27' oval marquee pavilions from both Tentsmiths and
> Panther Pavilions.
>
> If anyone has a pavilion from either of these companies or any other
> company, please send me your comments or suggestions.
>
> Thank you
>
> Domhnall Dubh O'Ruairc
> Herald Shire of Loch Ruadh
> Kingdom of Ansteorra
I have owned a pavilion from Panther Primitives for what is going on 3
years now. It has not only been serving me well, but has withstood some
fairly intense weather conditions. In harsh storms, it has remained
flood free, bone dry inside, in fact. Gusty winds have failed to do more
than make the pavilion's canvas walls bellows a bit. Overall, it has
been a worthwhile purchase, and I can highly recommend purchasing a
pavilion from Panther Prmitives.
Ciaran
Barony of Carillion
East Kingdom
From: bookshop at charter.net (medievalbooks)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Comments and suggestions requested
Date: 7 May 2004 04:09:15 -0700
I have a 12 by 12 from Tentmasters and love it to death. Think this
will be its 4th or 5th Pennsic and it still looks the same as it did
when I first bought it. It is nice and dry inside, breathes well. The
prices quoted includes the poles, ropes, stakes. While a bit more
expensive than Panther, I feel it is better quality (no offense
Panther folks - there are some nice Panther pavilions out there as
well). If I ever upgrade, it will again be with Tentmasters. My
suggestion is to get sales material from both Tentmasters and Panthers
and make your decision that way. Think one also has styles of pavilion
that the other one doesn't.
Gwyneth ui ingean Mathghamhna
The Haunted Bookshop
From: "Dana Tweedy" <reddfrogg at Nospam.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Tents from Tentsmiths
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:38:59 GMT
I have a Tentsmith's Viking Wedge tent. I have to say I'm very pleased with
the tent. I've had it for 12 years, and it's been through 13 Pennsic Wars.
It's still in great shape, and looks almost new. I'd recommend Tentsmiths
to anyone.
Karl Rasmussen of Tvede (no, I don't work for Tentsmiths either)
From: Randy Nicholson <rnicholson2 at gvtc.com>
Date: September 17, 2006 1:35:16 PM CDT
To: "'Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.'" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Period Tents was telling was is not period
On Period Tents - I have discovered that after 12 Gulf Wars and 20+ years in
the SCA in 4 kingdoms that I have spent more on nylon tents than the latest
period tent I just purchased. It seemed that after every two or so Gulf
Wars that I had to replace my nylon tent due to the weather tearing it up.
This recent period tent that I just purchased, compared to the money I've
spent over the years in nylon, is way cheaper. For about the cost of a
really good family sized nylon tent I can have a canvas tent that takes me
and one other person to put up in about 30 minutes. I have found that I
enjoy my game much more so now, I have a lot more room, and I'm not worried
about the canvas getting ripped up like the nylon ones do.
Here is a link for the place where I bought my tent. His prices are so good
that you have to keep checking back for in stock items. But let me tell
you, this guys' customer service has been excellent, the quality is great
(for the price) and the items are shipped very, very quickly.
http://www.midwesttent.com/catalog/
There have been a lot of us in Rhoadd that have purchased these tents so I'm
sure I'm not the only one that would give this merchant a good
recommendation.
Ld. Robert de Bray
From: medicfem at aol.com
Date: March 3, 2007 7:46:26 PM CST
To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Opinions about tent
Randy Nicholson <rnicholson2 at gvtc.com> wrote:
<< For about the same price you could buy a period tent (I know you said that
you didn't want a period tent yet) from Midwest Tent.
http://www.midwesttent.com/ >>
Thanks for the link and info. These look like good solid tents, but how do
they measure up when compared to the Panthers?
Herr Wolfgang von Sachsenhausen
-----------
I love mine! 15 X 15 square. Can be set up with two people. Made it to three Gulf Wars so far and numerous local events since 2004 ( maybe 10 times up). We bought it on ebay for something like $600 without poles.
I did replace the grommets with brass ones. The first ones included had rusted and made little brown circles on the canvas. They are comparable to Panther with little adjustments like these. My ropes are sewn in and it has a decorative edge on the inside unlike any Panthers I have seen.
See decorative edge here behind HRM Romanius:
http://gallery.ikrell.com/displayimage.php?album=1&;pos=34
Without walls mine is the one shown here: http://www.seawinds.org/images/Coronation%202005/slides/Coronation2004UlsteadII%20027.html
With all the poles in, sides on, and all the ropes staked .. there is no dip. I absolutely love Baroness Jan's bell wedge. Big enough for most anything.
Caley
From: David Backlin <edrei at smythkepe.org>
Date: March 3, 2007 8:37:22 PM CST
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Opinions about tent
I have personally dealt with Don Strinz Tipi
I found their prices to be reasonable and their service to be very good.
When I bought my tent from them, they were very patient in answering all my
"dumb questions". They often have used tents available as well.
THL Edrei the Quiet
(mka David Backlin)
Merchant and Adventurer
Shire of Smythkepe
From: "Oakes, George" <goakes at tiresplus.com>
Date: September 24, 2008 2:01:32 PM CDT
To: <trimaris-temp at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [tri-temp] Period Tent Wanted !!!
FSCutler sells good canvas wall tents, and so does Yakima tents.
We just bought a custom Sunforger Canvas 10x12 wall tent w/5' walls, and a 10' ridge with front and back doors for $450 delivered from Yaikima.
Our tent came with ropes and toggles, we had to make the wall poles and ridge pole/s but that was easy, also purchased some good metal stakes and we had our maiden voyage with the tent at Fall Coronation. No problems!!!
you can find them both on the inter web thingy....
Gavin Kinkade
Marcaster Hospitaller (mka George Oakes)
Barony of Marcaster
Kingdom of Trimaris
From: Roxanne Price <Ladyelysa at yahoo.com>
Date: September 24, 2008 2:02:05 PM CDT
To: trimaris-temp at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tri-temp] Period Tent Wanted !!!
This is where I got my pavilion. It was really inexpensive and has lasted me almost five yeas now. That includes time up at Pennsic and Gulf Wars. The company is called Midwest Tents.
http://www.midwesttent.com/catalog/
Molly
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:16:25 +0900
From: Annabella <anne at annabella.net>
Subject: Re: [Lochac] Medieval pavilions
To: "The Shambles, the SCA Lochac mailing list" <lochac at sca.org.au>
<<< Are there any other Australian suppliers out there? We were going to
get one from Panther Primitives but that was before the Australian
dollar dived beyond affordability. >>>
Check out Blue Draco from Queensland
Regards, Rosamond
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:37:14 +1100
From: "Glenda Robinson" <glendaslists at exemail.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Lochac] Medieval pavilions
To: "'The Shambles, the SCA Lochac mailing list'" <lochac at sca.org.au>
There's also Bojo Products http://www.frojel.com/members/bojo/index.htm and
Yoretymes http://www.yoretymes.websyte.com.au/
In all my years I've never heard anything but good things about these two or
Blue Draco's tents.
Glenda.
From: Miriam von Schwarzwald <miriamvonschwarzwald at GMAIL.COM>
Date: June 30, 2010 2:10:42 PM CDT
To: CALONTIR at listserv.unl.edu
Subject: Re: [CALONTIR] Anyone selling a tent?
I got my round pavilion from Midwest tent up in Omaha... inexpensive
and durable. I really have put his stuff to the test.
http://www.midwesttent.com/catalog
Others use wall tents from Fall Creek. I hear those are good too.
http://www.fcsutler.com/fccanvas.asp
One of my friends might be selling her pavilion because it is too big
for one person. It does not have detachable walls... although it has a
detachable shade fly. It is a Panther Pavilion marquis 16x16 (not
including shade fly area). Pretty good condition (it was up in my yard
for the last month as she cleaned it.) She is out of town right now
but she will probably see this next time she checks her email.
Miriam
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Sarah Gutekunst <gutekunst at gpcom.net> wrote:
<<< Greetings all, after Lilies with 1 large husband, 2 small children, and way too much stuff, the decision has been made in my household that a new larger tent is a must. I thought that I would check on the list to see if anyone was selling anything before purchasing new. We are looking for approx. 250 square feet, with removable walls being required. Other than that, we are open to shape configurations, but would probably most prefer a marquis. If anyone has anything for sale, please email me.
Seraphina
From: Catherine Kinsey <Ckinsey at KUMC.EDU>
Date: June 30, 2010 10:19:05 AM CDT
To: CALONTIR at listserv.unl.edu
Subject: Re: [CALONTIR] Anyone selling a tent?
If you end up looking for new, this gentleman was at Lilies:
http://www.welldressedtent.com/
He was in the Old Market and his tent stayed up through both the storms on Saturday :).
Liriel
oh, and no matter the tent, get good stakes !
>>> Sarah Gutekunst <gutekunst at GPCOM.NET> 6/30/2010 10:12 AM >>>
Greetings all, after Lilies with 1 large husband, 2 small children, and way too much stuff, the decision has been made in my household that a new larger tent is a must. I thought that I would check on the list to see if anyone was selling anything before purchasing new. We are looking for approx. 250 square feet, with removable walls being required. Other than that, we are open to shape configurations, but would probably most prefer a marquis. If anyone has anything for sale, please email me.
Seraphina
From: Electric Wolf <elecwolf at GMAIL.COM>
Date: June 30, 2010 11:26:58 AM CDT
To: CALONTIR at listserv.unl.edu
Subject: Re: [CALONTIR] Anyone selling a tent?
I can second this one. I did not purchase my tent through him but I
did buy poles and ropes from him. Despite this he bent over backward
making sure I had everything I needed and was even nice enough to help
me setup two tents. Him and his wife were great help, fun to talk to
and willing to work around a variety of obstacles.
Once I sell my old ones I will be buying from them again.
On 6/30/10, Catherine Kinsey <Ckinsey at kumc.edu> wrote:
If you end up looking for new, this gentleman was at Lilies:
http://www.welldressedtent.com/
He was in the Old Market and his tent stayed up through both the storms on Saturday :).
Liriel
oh, and no matter the tent, get good stakes !
From: Dave Calafrancesco <dcalaf at drakkar.org>
Date: April 27, 2011 4:01:06 PM CDT
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: [Ansteorra] canvas shelter alternatives - was - Re: New 10x20 garage pavillions for $85 at Walmart
Greetings Ansteorra,
I've recently acquired a pair of 10x20 tarp/flys from MidWestTent.com for a very reasonable price of $81 for two colors. http://midwesttent.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=31
I used a 10'2x4 rough finish cedar and ripped it in half lengthwise on my bandsaw (or use a table saw or search through 2x2s or just use a pair of 2x4s) for the middle supports and chopped 3 12' long rough finish cedar 2x4s in half and then ripped them down and ended up with a fabulous day shade. The tarps in color are $81 plus shipping. They currently have one remaining white with a blemish for $60. http://midwesttent.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=30
I was extremely impressed with their quality and construction methods. I will not hesitate to purchase from them again in the future.
Your total cost could be as low as about $100 for a canvas day shade that transports as a roll of canvas about 14" by 24" and a bundle of 8 tent poles strapped to a roof rack. The rough cedar is very lightweight and tends to be very straight grain. I've been using them exclusively for my tents since I found them when I first got to Ansteorra in 2007.
With 3 ropes off the center uprights I can even set the entire thing up by myself, though it would be faster with two people.
An alternative arrangement would be to use two 8' poles and 3 6' poles and stake the back wall directly to the ground. This provides a back wall windbreak as well as shade. I suppose always bringing the 8' poles would work fine and be the most flexible.
I'll have them up at the Bjornsborg Althing this weekend (they will be the canvas tents used for some of the class locations one white and the other Ansteorra black and gold) if anyone wants to look at them before ordering.
Haraldr Bassi, Bjornsborg
From: Bree Flowers <evethejust at gmail.com>
Date: April 28, 2011 8:50:59 AM CDT
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] canvas shelter alternatives - was - Re: New 10x20 garage pavillions for $85 at Walmart
Sorry everyone, the white one is gone :) But there are still plenty
left in colored options. And I too can vouch for the quality as I have
been using one of their tents now for 4 or 5 years with no complaints.
I use wall studs for my poles. Not the prettiest wood in the world,
but generally pretty straight and killer-cheap. And no need to rip
them to a narrower width.
I also picked up some of their ropes with sliders kits. I really like
how their rope feels. Probably not period (I'm pretty sure it's
cotton), but easy on the hands.
~Eve
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Dave Calafrancesco <dcalaf at drakkar.org> wrote:
<<< I've recently acquired a pair of 10x20 tarp/flys from MidWestTent.com for a very reasonable price of $81 for two colors.
http://midwesttent.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=31 >>>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:20:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marybeth Lavrakas <katrous at yahoo.com>
To: Virginia Di Battista <vdriscoll at gmail.com>,
Atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Question about Tentsmiths and Panther Primitives
From: Virginia Di Battista <vdriscoll at gmail.com>:
<<< Has anyone purchased canvas from TentSmiths and then the pole set-up from
Panther?
This was a suggestion that I received, but I'm worried about the
measurements that Tent Smiths provide for their poles. How close are they?
We're planning for a 14' x 14' center pole Marquee. Since Tentsmiths seam
engineers all of their seams I would rather go with them. I know I can get
a seam engineered tent from Panther, but it would actually cost more to get
the entire package from them.
Simona dell'Amore >>>
Wait until you have the actual tent before ordering poles. Tentsmiths sent me
walls that require 6 ft 3 inch poles (as I recall, in the order stage they tell
you "about 6 feet...)
What I did was buy the center pole from them, sleeved, and then made my own
perimeter poles.
I've owned tents from both vendors, btw, and I am a die hard Tentsmiths fan now.
Kateryn Rous
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:09:59 -0400
From: Arthur Donadio <dukecuan at hotmail.com>
To: <katrous at yahoo.com>, <vdriscoll at gmail.com>,
<atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
Subject: Re: [MR] Question about Tentsmiths and Panther Primitives
I put my Tentsmiths' round tent (15' at the eaves, 19' at the base) up on a friend's property for his son's birthday party last October. The tent was 9 years old at the time. I got busy and left it there until February. It was still standing and in good shape when I took it down. The stakes had a lot of rust from wintering in the ground but otherwise it was OK. I will send it back to Tenstsmiths this week just to make sure the ring is in good shape for Pennsic. Tentsmiths makes great tents.
Arthur
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marybeth Lavrakas <katrous at yahoo.com>
To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Question about Tentsmiths and Panther Primitives
I don't have anything quite as dramatic to explain why I love my Tentsmiths
tent! But I feel the seams are better done, and I really like the way the walls
clip on (though I believe Panther has updated their wall system from what I
originally experienced). And to follow on the comment below, I have a friend
with a round tent from Panther that is about 9 years old that had a catastrophic
failure recently--canvas ripping, causing the whole thing to come down with
poles breaking.
Kateryn Rous
From: Arthur Donadio <dukecuan at hotmail.com>
<<< I put my Tentsmiths' round tent (15' at the eaves, 19' at the base) up on a
friend's property for his son's birthday party last October. The tent was 9
years old at the time. I got busy and left it there until February. It was
still standing and in good shape when I took it down. >>>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 07:23:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Donald Wagner <rodrigoksca at att.net>
To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Question about Tentsmiths and Panther Primitives
I have a Tentsmiths 13 x 19 oval marquee with 6' slanted walls that is available
for sale.
There isn't a set-up package at Panther that would work for you without
modification.
My wall poles, as mentioned by another, are 6'3" as opposed to 6' in the
literature. The roof ridge set-up was exactly 12'.
IMO, Panther has a good product at a good price and has earned a good reputation
that is unmatched in their market.
IMO, Tentsmiths has a superior product and has customers that are far more
enthusiastic about the quality of their tents and service than those of panther,
but are not as well known.
Rodrigo Falcone
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:53:38 -0400
From: Janie Darby <briana491 at gmail.com>
To: Virginia Di Battista <vdriscoll at gmail.com>
Cc: Atlantia maillist <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>, Stefan li Rous
<StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [MR] Question about Tentsmiths and Panther Primitives
Our Marquis is seam engineered and is from Panther. It's our second Panther,
and we're totally satisfied. We asked for a roof vent, and they added it per
our design.
Briana
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:30:34 -0400
From: Joe S <jjshafferjr at gmail.com>
To: Virginia Di Battista <vdriscoll at gmail.com>
Cc: Atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Question about Tentsmiths and Panther Primitives
This may be reaching you a little late now, but I'm on my way back from
Lilies war in Calontir and saw the prettiest tents I've ever seen made by
one of the merchants there. His website is http://welldressedtent.com/ and
it might be worth checking out if you're still in the market.
-Gawin Kappler
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:14:53 -0800 (PST)
From: House Drakkar <housedrakkar at yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Lochac] Medieval tent source help
To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list"
<lochac at lochac.sca.org>
Ulric Johansson
House Drakkar
"Damnate gloriam, tradite pecuniam"
MKA Jonathan Dean
From: Lancer Eadaoin <eadaoin1193 at gmail.com>
Date: April 14, 2012 7:44:36 AM CDT
To: the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Looking for a new tent
On Friday, April 13, 2012 3:48:10 AM UTC-4, Juan Garcia Lopez de Mauleon wrote:
And this seems pretty cool too:
http://armstreet.com/store/tents/medieval-tent-pavilion-with-floor-128-rnd-14hgh
==========================
I actually own this tent in blue and white. The foot print with the guy lines only is very large about 40ft diameter. We modified it by putting 2"x2" poles at the guy points and looping the guys at the center for tie downs. This reduced the foot print from 40ft with just the guys to about 16 ft with the poles. The tent is fairly waterproof, there is occasionally a light mist inside the tent in very heavy rain. It holds up well in the wind either with the poles or just the guys and center pole. I have had the tent for almost 5 years, it is durable, lightweight and 2 of us can put it up in less than 15 minutes, even with the poles. Not bad for a period style pavilion.
Eadaoin
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