Home Page

Stefan's Florilegium


This document is also available in: text or RTF formats.

rose-oil-msg - 1/7/08


Medieval rose oil. Making it.


NOTE: See also the files: roses-art, rose-syrup-msg, rose-water-msg, flowers-msg, herbs-msg, cook-flowers-msg, Roses-a-Sugar-art, perfumes-msg, Perfumes-bib.





This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday.


This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org


I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter.


The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors.


Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s).


Thank you,

    Mark S. Harris                  AKA:  THLord Stefan li Rous

                                          Stefan at florilegium.org



Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 06:04:24 -0700 (PDT)

From: Sandra J. <kieralady2 at yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Rose petal syrup

To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org


I made the below from the leftover roses from Saeraid

II Queen's Champion.


On a tangent... We got quite a deal on roses. Try

globalrose.com for all your bulk rose needs. I also

used them (globalrose.com) for my wedding. Great

prices!! They are NOT organic, but for

cosmetic/decorative purposes, they're awesome.


I realize this is an oil, not a syrup, but it is

mildly pertinent information.


<101> Item also mach rosen ?l. Nym iij lb. pawm?ls vnd

j lb. rosen pleter vnd thue das in ein gla? oder in

einen hafen, der glesen sey, vnd mach das oben gancz

eben zu vnd henck das an die sunnen dreyssig tage vnd

darnach tr?ck es durch ein tuch. Das o:el ist zumol

gut furr alle hicz, die dem menschen kumbt in der

kranckheyt, so man die wipron vnd die stirnn do mit

bestreicht, magstu nit gehaben pawmol, so nym gut

meyen putternn vnd ein vncz wachs, zu la? das

allererst vnd thue es dann zusammenn. Mann sagt, das

es pesser sej dann das erste.


<101> Make rose oil thus. Take 3 pounds of olive oil

and 1 pound of rose petals and put that into a glass

or a pot made out of glass and close the top tightly

and hang it out in the sun for thirty days and then

pass it through a cloth. The oil is mainly good

against all kinds of heat that comes from sickness, if

you rub it over the brows and forehead. If you do not

have tree oil, take good may butter and an ounce of

wax and melt it first and then mix it. It is said that

the latter is better than the former.



Source info:


*** Textgrundlage:

*** A. Feyl: Das Kochbuch Meister Eberhards. Diss. Freiburg i.B. 1963

*** Einrichtung: gescannt und 1 mal Korrektur gelesen

*** Thomas Gloning *** Kennzeichnung der Textelemente:

*** T = Titel; R = Rezept; U = ?berschrift oberhalb eines Rezepts

*** o:e = o mit ?bergesetztemm e; v:: = v mit ?bergesetztem Doppelpunkt usw.

*** Die Silbentrennung wurde aufgehoben

*** Copyright:

*** To the best of my knowledge, this text is 'gemeinfrei' according

*** to German law. You may use this electronic version for private and

*** scholarly purposes, as long as this header is included.

*** Please make sure, that you do not violate the laws of your country

*** by downloading this electronic version.


Translation by Volker Bach, (c) 2002. All nonprofit

use permitted.


-Clara von Ulm



Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:12:14 -0600 (CST)

From: "Sydney Walker Freedman" <freedmas at stolaf.edu>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] rose-infused oil vs. rose otto?

To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>


> Sydney commented:

> <<< I'm wondering if rose oils

> refers to rose-infused oil or actuall rose otto (from what I have

> researched, both were available).>>>


> What is the difference between "rose-infused oil" and "rose otto"? I

> don't think I've heard of the latter. Is the first rose essence which

> has been extracted by soaking rose petals in an oil? And the second

> is the obtained by pressing the oil out of rose petals using weight?

> I assume steaming rose petals and distilling the vapors gets you rose

> water, not rose oil.


Steam distillation gives you rose water and rose essential, i.e. rose

otto.  Rose-infused oil is made by soaking or heating roses in a base oil,

i.e. infusing the base oil with rose essential oil.


> Stefan


Pax Christi,




Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:07:52 -0600 (CST)

From: "Sydney Walker Freedman" <freedmas at stolaf.edu>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] rose-infused oil vs. rose otto?

To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>


The name used in modern perfumer, aromatherapy, etc. is actually rose otto

(I believe that attar is the etymology of otto).  In modern terms, attar

usually refers to an oil distilled into sandalwood oil.


> I think Sydner meant "attar of roses," which is highly concentrated, and

> very, very expensive, being, IIRC, actual oil of roses.  "Rose-infused"

> would imply an external source of oil, acquiring the rose scent/flavor to

> some varying degree (strong or not) through an infusion process.

> At least, that's how I interpreted it.


Pax Christi,



<the end>

Formatting copyright © Mark S. Harris (THLord Stefan li Rous).
All other copyrights are property of the original article and message authors.

Comments to the Editor: stefan at florilegium.org