rose-oil-msg - 1/7/08
Medieval rose oil. Making it.
NOTE: See also the files: roses-art, rose-syrup-msg, rose-water-msg, flowers-msg, herbs-msg, cook-flowers-msg, Roses-a-Sugar-art, perfumes-msg, Perfumes-bib.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 06:04:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sandra J. <kieralady2 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Rose petal syrup
To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org
I made the below from the leftover roses from Saeraid
II Queen's Champion.
On a tangent... We got quite a deal on roses. Try
globalrose.com for all your bulk rose needs. I also
used them (globalrose.com) for my wedding. Great
prices!! They are NOT organic, but for
cosmetic/decorative purposes, they're awesome.
I realize this is an oil, not a syrup, but it is
mildly pertinent information.
<101> Item also mach rosen ?l. Nym iij lb. pawm?ls vnd
j lb. rosen pleter vnd thue das in ein gla? oder in
einen hafen, der glesen sey, vnd mach das oben gancz
eben zu vnd henck das an die sunnen dreyssig tage vnd
darnach tr?ck es durch ein tuch. Das o:el ist zumol
gut furr alle hicz, die dem menschen kumbt in der
kranckheyt, so man die wipron vnd die stirnn do mit
bestreicht, magstu nit gehaben pawmol, so nym gut
meyen putternn vnd ein vncz wachs, zu la? das
allererst vnd thue es dann zusammenn. Mann sagt, das
es pesser sej dann das erste.
<101> Make rose oil thus. Take 3 pounds of olive oil
and 1 pound of rose petals and put that into a glass
or a pot made out of glass and close the top tightly
and hang it out in the sun for thirty days and then
pass it through a cloth. The oil is mainly good
against all kinds of heat that comes from sickness, if
you rub it over the brows and forehead. If you do not
have tree oil, take good may butter and an ounce of
wax and melt it first and then mix it. It is said that
the latter is better than the former.
Source info:
*** Textgrundlage:
*** A. Feyl: Das Kochbuch Meister Eberhards. Diss. Freiburg i.B. 1963
*** Einrichtung: gescannt und 1 mal Korrektur gelesen
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-Clara von Ulm
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:12:14 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sydney Walker Freedman" <freedmas at stolaf.edu>
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] rose-infused oil vs. rose otto?
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sydney commented:
> <<< I'm wondering if rose oils
> refers to rose-infused oil or actuall rose otto (from what I have
> researched, both were available).>>>
>
> What is the difference between "rose-infused oil" and "rose otto"? I
> don't think I've heard of the latter. Is the first rose essence which
> has been extracted by soaking rose petals in an oil? And the second
> is the obtained by pressing the oil out of rose petals using weight?
> I assume steaming rose petals and distilling the vapors gets you rose
> water, not rose oil.
Steam distillation gives you rose water and rose essential, i.e. rose
otto. Rose-infused oil is made by soaking or heating roses in a base oil,
i.e. infusing the base oil with rose essential oil.
> Stefan
Pax Christi,
Sydney
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:07:52 -0600 (CST)
From: "Sydney Walker Freedman" <freedmas at stolaf.edu>
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] rose-infused oil vs. rose otto?
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
The name used in modern perfumer, aromatherapy, etc. is actually rose otto
(I believe that attar is the etymology of otto). In modern terms, attar
usually refers to an oil distilled into sandalwood oil.
> I think Sydner meant "attar of roses," which is highly concentrated, and
> very, very expensive, being, IIRC, actual oil of roses. "Rose-infused"
> would imply an external source of oil, acquiring the rose scent/flavor to
> some varying degree (strong or not) through an infusion process.
> At least, that's how I interpreted it.
Pax Christi,
Sydney
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