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Medieval golf. History of golf.

 

NOTE: See also the files: Scotland-msg, sports-msg, games-msg, taverns-msg, Ireland-msg.

 

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This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I  have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday.

 

This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org

 

I  have done  a limited amount  of  editing. Messages having to do  with separate topics  were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the  message IDs  were removed to save space and remove clutter.

 

The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make  no claims  as  to the accuracy  of  the information  given by the individual authors.

 

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    Mark S. Harris                  AKA:  THLord Stefan li Rous

                                          Stefan at florilegium.org

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The following is excerpted from a timeline of Golf History I found on a website. - editor.

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1353

The first recorded reference to chole, the probable antecedent of golf. It

is a derivative of hockey played in Flanders (Belgium).

 

1421

A Scottish regiment aiding the French against the English at the Siege of

Bauge is introduced to the game of chole. Hugh Kennedy, Robert Stewart and

John Smale, three of the identified players, are credited with introducing

the game in Scotland.

 

1457

Golf, along with football, is banned by the Scots Parliament of James II

because it has interfered with military training for the wars against the

English.

 

1470

The ban on golf is reaffirmed by the Parliament of James III.

 

1491

The golf ban is affirmed again by Parliament, this time under King James IV.

 

1502

With the signing of the Treaty of Glasgow between England and Scotland, the

ban on golf is lifted.

 

James IV makes the first recorded purchase of golf equipment, a set of clubs

from a bow-maker in Perth, Scotland.

 

1513

Queen Catherine of England, in a letter to Cardinal Wolsey, refers to the

growing popularity of golf in England.

 

1527

The first commoner recorded as a golfer is Sir Robert Maule, described as

playing on Barry Links (near the modern-day Carnoustie).

 

1552

The first recorded evidence of golf at St. Andrews.

 

1553

The Archbishop of St. Andrews issues a decree giving the local populace the

right to play golf on the links at St. Andrews.

 

1567

Mary, Queen of Scots, seen playing golf shortly after the death of her

husband Lord Darnley, is the first known female golfer.

 

1589

Golf is banned in the Blackfriars Yard, Glasgow. This is the earliest

reference to golf in the west of Scotland.

 

1592

The City of Edinburgh bans golfing at Leith on 1592

[on] Sunday "in tyme of sermonis."

 

1618

Invention of the feathery ball.

 

1618

King James VI and I confirms the right of the populace to play golf on

Sundays.

 

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From: "Glen Marshall" <glenmarshall at worldnet.att.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Period Golf ?

Date: 8 Mar 1997 22:28:05 GMT

 

Carl W. Lemke <clemke at whc.net> wrote

> Has anyone done any research on period golf, or know of any good

> reference works.  Golf was certainly a 16th century activity. It has

> occurred to me that some of us might make period clubs and set up a

> course and play by period rules at an event.  Don't anyone tell my

> lady about this!!

 

Yes.  Check-out references to the Bruntsfield Links in Edinburgh.  This is

a park that is the remains of an ancient golf course - some say the oldest

in Scotland and, possibly, elsewhere.  It is maintained as a small (3-hole,

I think) course, with grass at the height that sheep would graze it to.

The equipment was a leather ball stffed with bird feathers and one club

that is not unlike today's woods.  The object was to hit a series of

flagpoles, much like the flags in the holes today.  You can still play this

ancient form at Bruntsfield Links.  And there is the Old Golf tavern next

to the links, dating from 1495.  Personally, I don't play golf but I *did*

get drunk at the tavern back in 1980.

 

 

From: "AJ" <aj at lothene.demon.co.uk>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Period Golf ?

Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 12:45:13 GMT

 

Glen Marshall <glenmarshall at worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Carl W. Lemke <clemke at whc.net> wrote

> > Has anyone done any research on period golf, or know of any good

> > reference works.  Golf was certainly a 16th century activity. It has

> > occurred to me that some of us might make period clubs and set up a

> > course and play by period rules at an event. Don't anyone tell my

> > lady about this!!

>

> Yes.  Check-out references to the Bruntsfield Links in Edinburgh.  This is

> a park that is the remains of an ancient golf course - some say the oldest

> in Scotland and, possibly, elsewhere.  It is maintained as a small (3-hole,

> I think) course, with grass at the height that sheep would graze it to.

> The equipment was a leather ball stffed with bird feathers and one club

> that is not unlike today's woods.  The object was to hit a series of

> flagpoles, much like the flags in the holes today. You can still play this

> ancient form at Bruntsfield Links.  And there is the Old Golf tavern next

> to the links, dating from 1495.

 

Hi there. I am writing this in Edinburgh just before going out to our

weekly Fighter Practise on Bruntsfield Links. The course there is a "Pitch

& Putt" or very short hole course, with no bunkers. The total area of it is

probably about 200 by 200 yards. It has got many more than 3 holes, though.

I've never actually counted. The grass is mown short as on a normal golf

course, but with the usual style of greens. (I'm not a golfer myself, I

just know the place well.)  It's part of a public park on the south side of

the city which was originally just outside the city walls. The low-lying

part was originally marsh, now drained, which ran up to the wall &

protected it on that side. It is still a byelaw that it is forbidden to

cross the park in a boat after dark, allegedly! Originally the only reason

to do this would have been to sneak in or out of the city. The other

interesting historical aspect of the area is the large number of

depressions which I have been told are old Plague Pits, where the bodies

were disposed of. We keep our Tetanus shots up to date...

I saw an article in a local newspaper a few years ago in a series on "The

History of Your Neighbourhood" which said that the Scottish army was

mustered on Bruntsfield Links before marching south to their eventual

defeat at Flodden. There are apparently letters from the Army Commanders

complaining of their difficulty in getting the troops to drill because they

were all off playng Golf! Let this be a warning to anyone planning on

setting up a golf course at a war!

The Old Golfe Tavern is a very good Pub, with decent real ales. I have

frequently imbibed there.

Hope this was interesting to someone. Other pub recommendations availiable

to anyone planning to visit!

--

AJ

aj at lothene.demon.co.uk

Alastair Saunders

 

 

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

From: shafer at spdcc.com (Mary Shafer)

Subject: Re: Period Golf ?

Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:03:06 GMT

 

In article <01bc2c0f$d8a11c20$4b9174cf at marshall_glen12.shrmed.com>,

Glen Marshall <glenmarshall at worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Carl W. Lemke <clemke at whc.net> wrote

>> Has anyone done any research on period golf, or know of any good

>> reference works.  Golf was certainly a 16th century activity. It has

>> occurred to me that some of us might make period clubs and set up a

>> course and play by period rules at an event. Don't anyone tell my

>> lady about this!!

>

>Yes.  Check-out references to the Bruntsfield Links in Edinburgh.  This is

>a park that is the remains of an ancient golf course - some say the oldest

>in Scotland and, possibly, elsewhere.  It is maintained as a small (3-hole,

>I think) course, with grass at the height that sheep would graze it to.

>The equipment was a leather ball stffed with bird feathers and one club

>that is not unlike today's woods.  The object was to hit a series of

>flagpoles, much like the flags in the holes today. You can still play this

>ancient form at Bruntsfield Links.  And there is the Old Golf tavern next

>to the links, dating from 1495.  Personally, I don't play golf but I *did*

>get drunk at the tavern back in 1980.

 

"Featheries", the feather-stuffed balls, were not the original, period

ball that the Dutch brought to Britain.  The original balls were made

of elm.  I think featheries are post period, but golf, with elm balls,

isn't.  The clubs were carved from a single piece of wood.

 

I'll rummage around and see if I can come up with some real dates

here.

 

By the way, golf courses are much easier to understand if you realize

that the originals were waste ground near the sea, in Scotland being

glacial morraines.  Hence the ponds (water hazards) and exposed

pockets of sand and gravel (sand traps) all around, the small areas of

fertile ground kept trimmed right down by sheep (the greens), the waste

ground covered with inedible plants (the roughs) and more edible but

not preferred plants (the fairways), sometimes cut for hay.

--

Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR  shafer at ursa-major.spdcc.com

URL http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html

 

 

From: herveus at access4.digex.net (Michael and MJ Houghton)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Period Golf ?

Date: 11 Mar 1997 08:36:26 -0500

 

Carl W. Lemke <clemke at whc.net> wrote:

>Has anyone done any research on period golf, or know of any good

>reference works.  Golf was certainly a 16th century activity. It has

>occurred to me that some of us might make period clubs and set up a

>course and play by period rules at an event.  Don't anyone tell my

>lady about this!!

>

>Walthari

>Carl W. Lemke

 

Torquil MacTaggart the Steadfast (Atlantia) has done some research into

period golf. He taught a class on it at University of Atlantia a couple

of years ago, and registered the first piece of armory with golf clubs

on it. I don't know if he reads this newsgroup, or even if he is online.

 

Herveus

 

 

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

From: shafer at spdcc.com (Mary Shafer)

Subject: Re: Period Golf ?

Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:50:28 GMT

 

Mary Shafer <shafer at spdcc.com> wrote:

>"Featheries", the feather-stuffed balls, were not the original, period

>ball that the Dutch brought to Britain.  The original balls were made

>of elm.  I think featheries are post period, but golf, with elm balls,

>isn't.  The clubs were carved from a single piece of wood.

>

>I'll rummage around and see if I can come up with some real dates

>here.

 

OK, here's some more definite information.  Featheries, made from

bull's hide that had been soaked in alum and stuffed with goose

feathers that had been boiled to soften them, started being used in

the 17th or early 18th century.  Before that, elm balls, which were

being imported from the Netherlands by the 16th century, were used.

The feathery could go about twice as far as a wooden ball, which would

rarely cover more than 100 yards when struck.  Featheries cost at

least ten times what elm balls did; a skilled craftsman could only

make four a day.  The feathery was replaced by the gutta percha ball

beginning in 1848.

 

Golf has been played in St. Andrews "far back into the mists of the

12th century".

 

The oldest club known to be in existance is a wooden play-club made by

Samuel Cosser in 1760.  This club is in the collection of the Royal &

Ancient Golf Club in St. Andrews.

--

Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR  shafer at ursa-major.spdcc.com

URL http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html

 

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