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How-2-Fnd-Fab-art - 12/18/11


"How to find Great Historic type Fabric for Garb cheaply, at Thrift Stores." by Lady Catherine Rose FitzEdmunds.


NOTE: See also the files: sewing-msg, sewing-tables-msg, sewing-tools-msg, cl-12C-Woman-art, cl-13th-fem-art, cl-Danish-11C-art, clothing-books-msg, patterns-msg.





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This is the class handout for a class the author taught at the 2011 Village Faire event in the Kingdom of Trimaris.



How to find Great Historic type Fabric for Garb cheaply,

at Thrift Stores

by Lady Catherine Rose FitzEdmunds



I will teach you what to look for by bring some of my finds and also teach you what time periods you can find the Fabric and Trims.


1.    What Thrift Store's are worth going to and which ones are not worth your time?


All Goodwill and most Salvation Army ones are, as well as Habitat for Humanity, sometimes Thrift Depot in Longwood is, and sometimes local ones, check them out at least once. Oh and always check the Fabric store in Maitland for Trim without any Metallic in it in there discount area of the store.


2.      What can be used for Fabric Garb?


Sheets, bedspreads, curtains, bottom covers, velvet or fax fur blankets, pillow covers, Men’s, Woman’s, regular Vests, Woman’s Dress’s, Childs dress’s,  fux fur vests and or Fur vests,  winter coats for the Fur collars,  and of course Fabric.


3.      Where to look for them in the Store once you get inside.


The Woman’s Dress’s, Childs Dress’s , bedding area they also put the Fabric in this area, the Vest Rounder.  Winter coats,  and always, Always check the discount area is a must!


4.     Just how many times do you look around at Fabric in the store?


I’ve learned to go around the whole Bedding area at least 3 to 5 times do to the fact that a lot of times that, they push everything to close together on hangers on the racks there might be something you missed the first time or even more times, you never know that something someone picked up they might just decide to put back, or drop that you’ve been eyeing; or  Something that the first few times you’d not thought of using the first time but it might grow on you … as more than a few times I’m gone around the Fabric pieces did to me.


5.    Where else to look for Fabric or Trim in the store.  


A lot of times you’ll see something you might never thought to use but it might turn out to be what you need for what you want to make.


6.    When to buy on a Whim, and when not too buy.


The best time to buy on a Whim is when you have the money and you just know you’ve found what you need or something is telling you to go ahead and get it because you do not have enough Fabric for either warm or cool weather.  Just make sure you don’t do what I’ve done … over done it by filling 9 totes no one really needs that much fabric **VBS***


7.    What else can you find at the Thrift store to use for Fabric for period Garb?


Old Winter Coat Collars, Edges of Pillow Shames, Pillows-depending how much fabric you need for a, Elizabethan vest, enough fabric for trim, which can be used for a neckline or sleeves. Old 1970’s dress’s some have very period type trim on them. And Linen table clothes some might be large enough to make something out of.


8.    How to look at Fabric and how to turn it into Trim.


What is a pattern on Fabric, how do you look at Fabric to see the pattern in it to cut the Trim out.  There are Diamond Designs as well as square designs, round and other designs in the Fabric but you must make sure you have enough room on both sides of the Trim Design to sew it to the Garb piece.


9. What can be used for the four Season's from the Thrift store.


When you can find Army Wool blankets grab them there the best thing to make a Great Cape out of for the times we do get down to around 30’ at night time. (I’ve had a time when I’m glad I just brought both Wool Army blankets with me to a event and it was so cold I ended up putting one under me and on-top of me.. and I was comfortable for the rest of the night);  Linen and cotton and silks are good for hot weather … sheets are good for Roman and Greek Toga’s as most of us know, but did you know some if they have the right designs can be used for other types of garb such as Indian Chile, and under the skirt,  


10. Different Fabrics and what Time Period's can they are used for.


Plain Fabrics can be used for most different time periods that the SCA covers; The Large bedspreads, dining room chair covers, really large curtains, and if you’re lucky that day you will find enough fabric for a Italian Renaissance, and or Elizabethan Dress a lot of times you just have to go on days that most people will not be there if you can being Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays’, and Thursdays, and you have to keep checking back so if you don’t find what you want save that money for the time that you do.  Silks can be used for Mongol, and early Hungarian, Japanese, Chinese, and early to late Middle Ages, time periods.  Thin fabrics can be used for Egyptian cover dress, Indian Sari’s.


The Next Pages will have some Pictures of different Time Period’s Garb, that the types of Fabrics that can be used for them.


1.    Mid Time Egyptian

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2.    Greek and or Roman


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3.    India Period Picture;


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4.  Early 13th Century Garb;


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5.  Late 13th Century;


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6.    King Henry VIII;


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7.    Elizabethan #1;


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8.    Elizabethan #2;


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9.    Elizabethan #3;


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10. German Ren Garb;


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11.Ren Fur Jacket and Hat;


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A. Middle Ages to Ren Fabric  Information Websites;


1.         Clothing and Fashion in the middle Ages; Fashion in the Middle Ages; May 31- August 14, 2011 at the Getty Center; http://www.getty.edu/art/exhibitions/fashion/


2.         Women's Clothes in the Middle Ages Video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwlKibJxKs0


3.         14th Century Sewing & Textile Information; http://www.damehelen.com/sewing/index.html


4a.       Real Medieval Fabric; http://www.virtue.to/articles/real_fabrics.html


4b.       Examples of modern fabrics that are similar to known medieval fabrics; http://www.virtue.to/articles/modern_fabric.html


5.         Dark Age Stitch Types; http://www.42nd-dimension.com/NFPS/nfps_stitches.html


6.         Simple Steps to Look Great in a Veil, or Veil-and-Circlet with photos; http://www.virtue.to/articles/veils.html


7.         The Sideless Surcote by Lady Jehanne de Wodeford;  http://www.wodefordhall.com/surcote.htm


8.         Buried with the friars; http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba53/ba53feat.


9.         Customize your Clothing with Trim; http://stores.renstore.com/-strse-template/0511a/Page.bok


10.       Chapter XVIII - Dress and Personal Adornment - Dress; http://www.alia.ie/tirnanog/sochis/xviiib.html


11.       The Grey Company; Fabrics and Colors; http://members.iinet.net.au/~bill/handbook/fabrics.html


12.  Lithuania’s History: Textiles Through Time, part 1*; http://sheeptoshawl.com/lithuanias-history-textiles-through-time-part-1/


13.  Art TO Zoo; Spinning Yarns, Telling Tales about Textiles; http://www.smithsonianeducation.org/educators/lesson_plans/spinning_yarns/ATZ_SpinningYarns_Sep1980.pdf


14.       A Step Through Time; http://webspace.webring.com/people/lo/oonaghsown/step_through_time/a_step_through_time_textiles.htm


15.       Turkish Coat for Venetian Dress; http://webspace.com/people/lo/oonaghsown/turkish_coat_for_venetian_dress_doco.htm





17.  Medieval Fabrics for Re-Enacting; http://www.squidoo.com/medieval-fabrics-for-re-enacting .. Neon is Period!


18.  What colors and fabrics did medieval Europe have access to?; http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-310243.html


19.       Sewing Stitches Used in Medieval Clothing; http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/cloth/stitches.htm


20.       Beading Brocades: for gifts and personal adornment; http://stores.renstore.com/-strse-template/0711a/Page.bok


21.       Gilding the lily: adding beads to brocade; http://www.scatoday.net/node/10712


22.       22.       Embroidery | SCAtoday.net; www.scatoday.net/taxonomy/term/133


23.       Extant Clothing of the Middle Ages; http://www.virtue.to/articles/extant.html


24.       Some Clothing of the Middle Ages: Historical Clothing from Archaeological Finds; http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/cloth/bockhome.html


25.       Rosalie's Medieval Woman; http://rosaliegilbert.com/sewingtechniques.html


26.       Making and Understanding Garb in the Current Middle Ages; An Introduction; http://www.bayrose.org/AandS/handouts/Garb_intro.pdf


27.  Cocfatrice; Crtant Dresses in Pisa: Updates on Sewing and construction techniques from the Costume Colloquium;  http://cockatricearts.blogspot.com/2011/04/extant-dresses-in-pisa-updates-on.html


28.      The Diaries of a Venetian Courtesan: Hand sewing Techniques; http://2cinquefoils.net/anneke/venetian/sewing/sewing.html


29.      The Use of Lower Grade Silks in the Renaissance; http://festiveattyre.com/research/silk.html


B. Egyptian & Byzantine Textiles


1.     Source: Textile Fragment [Byzantine; Made in Egypt] (90.5.807) | Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History | The Metropolitan Museum of Art; http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/90.5.807


2.     Eternal Egypt; Textiles; http://www.eternalegypt.org/EternalEgyptWebsiteWeb/HomeServletee_website_action_key=action.display.topic.details&;language_id=1&trait_item_id=10000197


3.     Ancient Textiles; Egyptian; http://www.boltonmuseums.org.uk/collections/egyptology/egyptology-collection/ancienttextiles/


4.     Ministry of Culture and Tourism; Byzantine & Christian Museum; http://www.byzantinemuseum.gr/en/collections/textiles/


5.     Ancient Coptic Christian Fabrics; http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/fabrics.htm


6.  Athena Review Exhibition Reports: Late Antique Textiles from Egypt Murray Eiland, Museum of Applied Art, Vienna, Austria  (December 7, 2005- May 5, 2006), Whitworth Art Gallery, University of Manchester, England (May 20,2006 - September 10, 2006); http://www.athenapub.com/eiland.htm


7.     Global Egyptian museum, http://www.globalegyptianmuseum.org/advanced_result.aspx?location=01/0169/3


8.     WHKMLA; A History of Textiles in Egypt, http://www.zum.de/whkmla/sp/1011/ignoramus/igno2.html


9.     The Kelsey online; Virtual Gallery of Historic Textiles from Egypt; http://www.umich.edu/~kelseydb/Exhibits/Big_Textile/PREVIOUS_TEXTILE_EXHIBITS/PREVIOUS_TEXTILE_EXHIBITS.html


10.  Coptic Textiles; http://researcharchive.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/coptic/index.html


11.  Apollonia's Projects, Byzantine and Near Eastern, Textiles, Embellishments and Coptic Tapestry Weaving: http://www.jewelryhistorian.com/sca/projects/Byz/Byz-textiles-embellishments.htm


12.       The Road to Byzantium: Luxury Arts of Antiquity



13.  Byzantine Sources on the Web for SCAdians; http://heidij.tripod.com/byzantine.html


14.  Byzantine textiles; http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&;resnum=0&q=Byzantine+textiles,&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=DHnDS4G5FoL58Aad4NDeCA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CB4QsAQwAw


15.  From Riches to Rags: Indian Block-Printed Textile  traded to Egypt; http://www.umich.edu/~kelseydb/Exhibits/Big_Textile/Riches_to_Rags.html


16.  Textile Production and Clothing; Technology and tools in ancient Egypt; http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/textil/tools.html


17.  Deshasheh, clothing from the Old Kingdom tombs; http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/deshasheh/uc31182.html

18.      Book; Fragile Remnants: Egyptian Textile of Late Antiquity and Early Islam; published by; Hatje Cantz Publishers, ISBN: 9783775716994, ISBN10: 3775716998 out of print check Amazon, or Ebay.


Copyright 2011 by sharon edmunds <rosemary_2024 at yahoo.com>. Permission is granted for republication in SCA-related publications, provided the author is credited.  Addresses change, but a reasonable attempt should be made to ensure that the author is notified of the publication and if possible receives a copy.


If this article is reprinted in a publication, I would appreciate a notice in the publication that you found this article in the Florilegium. I would also appreciate an email to myself, so that I can track which articles are being reprinted. Thanks. -Stefan.


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