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Comments on using test or practice feasts to prepare for regular SCA event feasts. Who gets invited. Who pays for the practice feast.

 

NOTE: See also the files: feasts-msg, headcooks-msg, kitchen-clean-msg, p-feasts-msg, Run-a-Feast-art, high-table-msg, Fst-Menus-art, feast-serving-msg.

 

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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:56:40 -0500

From: Wajdi <wajdi at home.com>

Subject: Re: SC - budgeting question

 

> Intergroup anthropology question related to feast budgeting: For those of

> you who do a 'test run' of your feast menu ahead of time, do you pay for

> the supplies for that test run out of your own pocket, does it come out of

> the feast budget, do you get other funding from the event budget, or do

> you fund it some other way?

>  --

> Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, mka Jennifer Heise       jenne at tulgey.browser.net

 

(wajdi puts on reeve hat)  What it boils down to is who gets

served at the testing.  If its open to the general populace of

the group, then group funds may be used.  If its only open to an

invited few, then private funds should be used.  It could be

argued that the general populace would indeed benefit from the

testing of recipes, but I don't think the IRS would see it that

way.  General feast funds should not, in my opinion, be used, as

if it is determined, for any reason, that a certain recipe not be

used at feast, then that portion of the populace paying for feast

would not benefit from that particular recipe, only those persons

involved in the testing of it.

 

wajdi

 

 

Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:31:28 -0700 (PDT)

From: Huette von Ahrens <ahrenshav at yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: SC - budgeting question

 

- --- Jenne Heise <jenne at mail.browser.net> wrote:

> Intergroup anthropology question related to feast budgeting: For those of

> you who do a 'test run' of your feast menu ahead of time, do you pay for

> the supplies for that test run out of your own pocket, does it come out of

> the feast budget, do you get other funding from the event budget, or do

> you fund it some other way?

>  --

> Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, mka Jennifer Heise          

 

For big banquets, I always do multiple test runs.

Since I usually have a years notice, I start by

assembling my cooks.  I usually ask several cooks that

I have worked with before, so that I can have a core

of experienced cooks who I know will show up and work.

I then take volunteers and try to balance the rest of

the crew with varying levels of experience.

 

Approx. 9 months before, we will meet and brainstorm

and decide our theme, what challenges we wish to meet,

etc.  I then assign everyone specific areas of

research.  We then meet again several months later

with all our research and one or two dishs to share

with the rest.  We go over everything we have done and

taste everything and make some preliminary decisions.

We meet again one month later and work on the first

course, cooking it together to see how it goes

together both tastewise and kitchenwise.  However, we

make only enough for the people cooking.  The next

month we do the second course, etc.  When all has been

settled and agreed upon, we then do the whole feast at

once for ourselves and our spouses/families as our

trial run.  This usually is about two or three months

before the event.  After that, I schedule work days to

do the actually prep cooking for the banquet to do as

much as we can before the banquet day.

 

To answer your questions.  No, I don't add these

expenses to the budget.  I only budget for actual

feast expenses.  If any cook can't afford to make

their dish/dishs for these tests, I usually will

reimburse them out of my pocket.  These trials usually

lead to successful banquets and are lots of fun. They

also give a lot of confidence to less experienced

cooks, so the day of the banquet is less stressful.

After having made a recipe two or three times in

different situations, it helps gives you insights into

how the recipe might work in quantity, although there

are always unforseen variables.  

 

Huette

Kingdom of Caid

 

 

Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 12:15:57 PDT

From: "Bonne of Traquair" <oftraquair at hotmail.com>

Subject: RE: SC - budgeting question

 

For me, it worked both ways.  My first feast I needed to learn a new

technique and I wasn't sure of what the instrcutions said, so my family had

a lot of similarly prepared chicken in the months before my feast.  When I

did a test run of the feast, with the autocrat and other event VIPs and

their spouses as my guests, I paid for the basic food, but some special

ingredients and materials I saved the receipts for.  When it turned out that

I hadn't used my whole budget, I included those receipts with the others.  

It was maybe $10 and I wouldn't have cried to miss it had I been over

budget.  The autocrat and canton officers had told me I could include feast

test food if I wanted, but the purchase hadn't increased my grocery bill

that week by anything noticeable, I considered it a party and my family did

eat the leftovers another night, so I didn't.

 

My second feast involved much less home testing, and a few times I brought

tastes to canton meetings, but no formal practice feast such as the first

time.

 

Bonne

 

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