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Poems written by SCA folks. Period poetry.

 

NOTE: See also the files: poetry-msg, singing-msg, bardic-msg, music-bib,

p-songs-msg, p-stories-msg, Bardic-Guide-art, song-sources-msg.

 

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From: lawbkwn at BUACCA.BITNET (Yaakov HaMizrachi/HJFeld)

Date: 10 May 91 13:51:09 GMT

Organization: The Internet

 

Unto the assembled fishers of the Rialto, greetings

on this 41st day of the Omer. I appologize in advance

for that which I am about to inflict upon you.  It

came to me suddenly, during a moment of quiet reflection on

a conversation between myself, my lady, and Gilly of Southbank.

 

I took up the rattan to fight

For my dear lady's sake

But just one tourney later

I discovered my mistake

 

My new made armor fit me as well

as pickle barrel might

I sought my lady's fond embrace

before I went to fight

 

But when I came before her

my heart within me sank

She said: "you are as snuggly

as an armor plated tank!"

 

Undaunted I came to the list

as countless have before

My lady left within the hour

as watching made her bored

 

How hard we fought beneath the sun

despite the sweat and pain

But when I told my lady

she just shrugged and muttered "men!"

 

(Much as I hate to argue

with my love, I must make plain

The women on the tourney field

fight hard as any man)

 

I stripped my armor from my frame

and weary from the day

Again sought my fair lady

Who again turned me away

 

"You're hot, you're wet and sticky

And you stink doth overpower

Don't come within a cubit

'Til you've visited the showers!"

 

So off I went to wash away

The grime of those who dance

The grime of those who Fight

and looked forward to the revels

That I would enjoy that night

 

But my muscles did betray me

By becoming stiff and sore

It hurt to put on formal garb

and stumble out the door

 

I chased my love away, for her

embraces were no help

Though velvet soft, her every touch

produced a painful yelp

 

So sore of limb and heart I sit

A failure at romance

I think instead of fighting

I shall try to take up dance!

 

In service to everything,

Yaakov HaMizrachi

 

 

Subj: A poem of the SCA_

Date: 1 Jun 92

From: lawbkwn at buacca.BITNET (Yaakov HaMizrachi)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

 

Greetings to all the good folk who

pass this place, this being the 43rd

day of the omer.

The most recent thread on the 'essence'

of the SCA stirred my creative juices.

So, with appologies to Rudyard Kippling,

 

             In The Current Middle Age

             By Yaakov HaMizrachi

 

See the Tudor in his pride

And the Celt there by his side

And behind him is a Viking who's a knight

For there are nine and sixty ways

To play in the SCA

And every single one of them is right

 

In the Current Middle Age

Mighty Battles we do wage

(Tho' we looks like little boys what play with sticks)

I was never very fond

of the warriors of Nippon

For I've always said that East and West don't mix

 

Then the swishy-pokey tramps

Tried to come into me camp

And they said my helm and armor didn't match

For they said there is no place

Where a helm with open face

Would be paired with metal plate and leather patch

 

So I fixed 'em with a sneer

An said: "You haughty Cavalier"

"You've the nerve to come and try to play our game

For you foolish foppish dupe

Your entire ensemble's OOP."

And I harangued him 'til 'e 'ung 'is 'ead in shame

 

But when word of what I sing

Came before our noble king

He did say to me in court that very night

There be nine and sixty ways

To play within the SCA

and every single one of them is right!"

 

"See the dances that we know

both from Playford and Arbeau

Though a hundred years may lie betwixt the two

And you wouldn't think it coarse

Of a Pict or Jarl or Norse

To wear shoes from when the Tudor line was new."

 

Still in this current Middle Age

Folk may fly into a rage

When they see something with which they don't agree

When they see something with which they don't agree

And will run and shout "It's Schism!"

When it's just anachronism

Born of ignorance or maybe poverty

 

Some are in here for the fun,

And have been since A.S. 1

While still others love the research and the work

But whatever you enjoy

Don't the other you annoy

Or you'll find that EVERYONE thinks you're a jerk

 

Here's the most amazing thing

I learned then from my king

Though I don't claim to have exceptional insight

"There are nine and sixty ways

Of playing in the SCA

AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS RIGHT!"

 

copyright 1992 by Harold Feld

Permission to use and republish this

in any SCA publication is granted.

However, the author would really appreciate

a copy if it is published.

 

In Service,

Yaakov

 

 

From: ansteorra at eden.com (10/23/95)

To: ansteorra at eden.com

RE>Poems for Adult Bardic

 

As promised, here is the poem by Robert Herrick (1591-1674), "Upon the Nipples of Julia's Breast." Herrick wrote several poems concerning Julia; anyone concerned about references to Her Majesty but still wishing to use Herrick's poetry would do well to examine these others - they are lovely.  

 

I have also included a piece by John Donne (1573-1631), who IMHO, wrote some of the most sensual, splendid love poetry in the history of English literature (until James I induced him to take orders, where eventually he became the Dean of St. Paul's and turned his pen to more ecclesiastical matters.  These are very good as well - Devotion 17 "Now this Bell tolling softly for another, says to me, Thou must die," should be familiar to some...but I digress)

 

On to the poetry!

 

 

Robert Herrick

"Upon the Nipples of Julia's Breast"

 

Have ye beheld, with much delight,

A red rose peeping through a white?

Or else a cherry, double graced,

Within a lily's center placed?

Or ever marked the pretty beam

A strawberry shows, half drowned in cream?

Or seen rich rubies blushing through

A smooth pearl, and orient too?

So like to this, nay all the rest,

Is each neat niplet of her breast.

 

John Donne

"Elegy XX: To His Mistree Going To Bed"

 

<<Read this with a voice of anticipated, impatient passion, and you will have every

lord reaching for his lady, and every lady fanning herself with the hem of her

gown.  At least, that's my reaction.  Passionate stuff...>>

 

Come, madam, come, all rest my powers defy;

Until I labor, I in labor lie.

The foe ofttimes, having the foe in sight,

Is tired with standing, though he never fight.

Off with that girdle, like heaven's zone glittering,

But a far fairer world encompassing.

Unpin that spangled breast-plate, which you wear,

That th' eyes of busy fools may be stopped there.

Unlace yourself, for that harmonious chime

Tells me from you that now it is bedtime.

Off with that happy busk, which I envy,

That still can be, and still can stand so nigh.

Your gown going off such beauteous state reveals,

As when from flowery meads th' hill's shadow steals.

Off with your wiry coronet, and show

The hairy diadems which on you do grow.

Off with you hose and shoes; then softly tread

In this love's hallowed temple, this soft bed.

In such white robes heaven's angels used to be

Revealed to men; thou, angel, bring'st with thee

A heaven-like Mahomet's paradise, and though

Ill spirits walk in white, we easily know

By this these angels from an evil sprite:

Those set our hairs, but these our flesh upright.

Licence my roving hands, and let them go

Before, behind, between, above, and below.

O, my America, my Newfoundland,

My kingdom, safest when with one man manned,

My mine of precious stones, my empery;

How am I blest in thus discovering thee!

To enter in these bonds, is to be free;

Then, where my hand is set, my soul shall be.

Full nakedness!  All joys are due to thee;

As souls unbodied, bodies unclothed must be

To taste whole joys.  Gems which you women use

Are like Atlanta's ball cast in men's views;

That, when a fool's eye lighteth on a gem,

His earthly soul might court that, not them.

Like pictures, or like book's gay coverings made

For laymen, are all women thus arrayed.

Themselves are only mystic books, which we

-Whom their imputed grace will dignify-

Must see revealed.  Then, since that I may know,

As liberally as to thy midwife show

Thyself, cast all, yea, this white linen hence;

There is no penance due to innocence.

To teach thee, I am naked first; why then,

What needst thou have more covering than a man?

 

 

Both poems taken from _Love Poems of Robert Herrick and John Donne_ Rutgers

University Press, New Brunswick, N.J., 1948.

 

Again, if there are any other works someone would like to see, drop me email.

Please, excuse me, I must find my fan...

 

Dierdre O'Faighertaigh

Barony of Bjornsborg

(aka Ashley Smith asmith at cs.trinity.edu)

 

 

From: deg at pipeline.com (Raquille)

To: Mark Harris

Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:57:56 -0500

Subject: Ode to Pennsic War

 

Ode to Pennsic War

Oh, I'm going off to Pennsic War

Where I have never been before

Although I have heard lots of lore

About this "Pennsic War!"

Yes, I'm going off to Pennsic now

I'll have to get to War somehow

With all my garb I don't know how

I'll get to Pennsic War!

My brother watches jealously

I'm going off to War, you see

My mother looks on nervously

As I leave for Pennsic War!

My car is stuffed up to the brim

I cannot fit the armor in

I'm thankful that I am quite thin

As I drive to Pennsic War!

My mother thinks I'm in a cult

She takes a personal insult

That I want to join in the revolt

As we fight at Pennsic War!

Pay a visit to the swimming hole

Naked swimming, that's the goal

Of course, that's if we get past Troll

The Troll at Pennsic War!

I'll watch the fighting every day

And wish that I could join the fray

But I'll just duck when they come my way

For I'm at Pennsic War!

We'll sing and dance quite endlessly

And drink and drink till we can't see

Fighting goes continuously

We have fun at Pennsic War!

Every day I will refrain

From treating people with disdain

Because like me, they're not quite sane

Yes, we're at Pennsic War!

Those drums! Those drums! so loud at night

Daytime, when the stickjocks fight

This year the East is shining bright

As we win at Pennsic War!

I'd like to learn to fight one day

With heavy weapons I will play

Then with a sigh I'll finally say

I fought at Pennsic War!

I will go visit Merchant's Row

And there I'll spend my hard-earned dough

On everything they've got- oh no!

I'm broke at Pennsic War!

I'm told I'll never be the same  

After playing Pennsic's game

An AoA I'll surely gain

for my tales of Pennsic War!

And so in service to the Dream

I'll study medieval themes

Yes, it would absolutely seem

I belong at Pennsic War!

I'll study up on heraldry

Embroidering and chivalry

And drink two bottles, maybe three

of mead at Pennsic War!

Now it's time for Court, oh joy

Perhaps I'll get some sleep, oh boy

We bow and cheer like wind-up toys

The Court at Pennsic War!

I'll pay my respects to the King

For he leads us in everything

Victory to us he'll bring

We'll win at Pennsic War!

Exhausted, I pack, my spirits are low

Back home to winter's ice and snow

Just think, in fifty weeks we'll go

Return to Pennsic War!  

-----

Raquille the Little

Barony Beyond the Mountain

Kingdom of the East

"goldman at uhavax.hartford.edu"

 

 

From: djheydt at uclink.berkeley.edu (Dorothy J Heydt)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: How many to change candle...

Date: 28 Jun 1996 19:59:19 GMT

Organization: University of California at Berkeley

 

David Friedman <ddfr at best.com> provided answers to

>How many Romans does it take to light a lantern? and

>How many Viking does it take to set fire to a lantern?

 

Sounds like it's time for me to post this one again...

 

There was a young man said to me,

A riddle let me ask:

How many people of the West

Must gather to the task

To light a single candle,

No brighter than the sun?

At that I laughed and said to him,

We need not even one.

 

        Our candle has been burning

        Since the Tale of Years began;

        Diana in her garden,

        She lit it with her hand.

        O guard this shining candle,

        And never let it fade:

        It lights a land of glory

        That we ourselves have made.

 

One merry May-Day morning,

While all the bells did chime,

Our fingers sifted history

Like fragrant beds of thyme.

Discarding plague and hatred,

We gathered up the best;

O wonderful to tell: that day

The sun rose in the West.

 

Since herald knelt for knighthood,

Since crossbow challenged shield,

Since Henrik rode in hauberk

Across a verdant field,

Since days half-lost in legend

Until the final day,

We cherish visions that have been

And will not fade away.

 

We know wherefrom we're coming;

We know whereto we go;

Our paths are set on solid ground,

And who we are we know.

Our rightful King we follow

Through tempest, fire, and night;

We see the vision clearly,

And are guided by its light.

 

Dorothea of Caer-Myrddin               Dorothy J. Heydt

Mists/Mists/West                       UC Berkeley

Argent, a cross forme'e sable           djheydt at uclink.berkeley.edu

PRO DEO ET REGE

 

 

Subject: ANST - Re: ANST; HAPPY HOLIDAYS

Date: Wed, 31 Dec 97 09:32:37 MST

From: Baronman <Baronman at aol.com>

To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG

 

The Weaving of the Tartan

 

I saw an old Dame weaving,

Weaving, weaving,

I saw an old Dame weaving,

     A web of tartan fine.

"Sing high," she said, "sing low," she said,

"Wild torrent to the sea,

That saw my sons and daughters go,

In sorrow far from me.

And warp well the long threads,

The bright threads, the strong threads,

     To make the colors shine."

 

She wove in red for every deed,

Of valor in Ansteorra's need:

She wove in green the Laurel's sheen,

In memory of her glorious one's.

She sang of the battle times,

The Gulf Wars march, the bright Or line.

Of how it fired the blood and stirred the heart,

When ever a child of hers took part.

"Tis for the gallent lads," she said,

"Who wear the kilt and the plaid:

"Tis for my winsome lasses too,

Just like my dainty bells of blue.

So weave well the bright threads,

The red threads, the green threads;

Woof well the strong threads

That bind their hearts to mine."

 

(c) Thomas Erwin aka Bors of Lothian 1997

 

Happy Hoidays

Baron Bors And Baroness Anne

 

 

Subject: ANST - Waking the Dream

Date: Sun, 19 Sep 99 21:21:43 MST

From: Scott Fridenberg <scottf at webzone.net>

To: Ansteorran List <ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG>

     , northkeep at Ansteorra.ORG, "minstrel at pbm.com" <minstrel at pbm.com>

 

I wrote this Sonnet to perform for those entering my novice bards

competition.  I dedicate it to all the bards who write the words that

wake the dream.

 

     Waking the Dream

 

The dreams that drive our lives and lift our hearts,

And drive us to be better than we are,

Are sparked within us by the bardic arts.

A sign-post in or hearts, our bright North-Star.

We lift our voice to tell the tales of old.

To sing again the songs of days gone by.

The legends live 'long as their tales are told.

The heros live again in our heart's eye.

The ancient heros walk the earth again,

And by their lives they show us how to live.

Returned to life again by poets pen.

The gift of life that only bards can give.

    Respect the bards and show them high esteem.

    It's they who write the words that wake the dream.

 

Robert Fitzmorgan

Barony of Northkeep

Northern Regional Bard

 

 

Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:54:28 MST

From: "Caley Woulfe" <cwoulfe at life.edu>

Subject: ANST - Fw: [TY] more poems

To: "Ansteorran List" <ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG>

 

>From: Bryan S McDaniel <kestrel at hawk.org>

>To: <TY at reashelm.ce.utk.edu>

>Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 8:03 PM

>Subject: [TY] more poems

> Kestrel's House of Poetry and Song brings you more poems from

> the Portable Medieval Reader.

> This Song Wants Drink  --  French; twelfth century

> Who has good wine should flagon it out

> And thrust the bad where the fungus sprout;

> Then must merry companions shout:

> This song wants drink!

> When I see wine into the clear glass slip

> How I long to be matched with it;

> My heart sings gay at the thought of it:

> This song wants drink!

> I thirst for a sup; come circle the cup:

> This song wants drink!

> -----

> My Lady Looks So Gentle  --  Dante Alighieri

>                 --  Italian; thirteenth century

> My lady looks so gentle and so pure

> When yielding salutation by the way,

> That the toungue trembles and has nought to say,

> And the eyes, which fain would see, may not endure.

> And still, amid the praise she hears secure,

> She walks with humbleness for her array;

> Seeming a creature sent from Heaven to stay

> On earth, and to show a miracle made sure.

> She is so pleasant in the eyes of men

> That through the sight the inmost heart doth gain

> A sweetness which needs proof to know it by:

> And from between her lips there seems to move

> A soothing spirit that is full of love,

> Saying for ever to the soul, "O sigh!"

> ---

> Beauty in Women   --  Guido Cavalcanti

>               --  Italian; thirteenth century

> Beauty in woman; the high will's decree;

> Fair knighthood arm'd for manly exercise;

> The pleasant song of birds; love's soft replies;

> The strength of rapid ships upon the sea;

> The serene air when light begins to be;

> The white snow, without wind that falls and lies;

> Fields of all flower; the place where waters rise;

> Silver and gold; azure in jewellery:

> Weigh'd against these, the sweet and quiet worth

> Which my dear lady cherishes at heart

> Might seem a little matter to be shown;

> Being truly, over these, as much apart

> As the whole heaven is greater than this earth.

> All good to kindred natures cleaveth soon.

> ---------------------------------------------------------

> Bryan S. McDaniel      SCA aka Kestrel of Wales

> http://kestrel.hawk.org        http://kestrelw.webjump.com

 

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