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teach-Pennsic-msg - 4/22/13


Comments on teaching at Pennsic.


NOTE: See also the files: What-s-Pensic-art, teaching-msg, Teach-in-SCA-art, Teaching-SCA-art, universities-msg, AS-classes-msg, cookg-classes-msg.





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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:18:19 -0700 (PDT)

From: Euriol of Lothian <euriol at yahoo.com>

To: "lilinah at earthlink.net" <lilinah at earthlink.net>,  Cooks within the

      SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] ISO Hints for Teaching at Pennsic


I would plan for at least 25 people, you might get less, you might get more. But it does seem the newer the material at Pennsic, the more students you are likely to have.


Pennsic Univ has a classroom area that includes a sink, just for these "hands-on" classes that are done. Just make sure you note when you register you class that you will need this. Also be prepared to have something to cart the things you need to and from the class site.


I also suggest trying to test your class prior to Pennsic, allow you to work out any of the logistics ahead of time. A class I started to develop last year, I taught for the first time at Pennsic this year. I was glad I had the time to fine tune the class prior to teaching it at Pennsic.


I have also brought a propane stove into the pavilion at Pennsic in the past, and I had no problem. And I believe they are all equipped with fire extinguishers as well.





Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:42:53 -0500

From: Haraldr Bassi <sca-cooks-l at drakkar.org>

To: lilinah at earthlink.net,       Cooks within the SCA

      <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] ISO Hints for Teaching at Pennsic


On 9/2/11 1:13 PM, lilinah at earthlink.net wrote:

<<< Prior to this year i was not sure if i was up to teaching at an institution as venerable and mythic as Pennsic, but after attending a class during which i must have mentally face-palmed a dozen times (no, Saddam Hussein did not change the name of Persia to Iran; no, Iraqis and Iranians are not culturally the same; etc.), i think i am sufficiently capable.


So i was wondering if anyone on this list might have some helpful hints for teaching SCA-period food oriented classes to people from all over the known world at Pennsic. >>>


I've not taught period food classes at Pennsic, but have taught both in Pennsic University tents and much more often in my camp. Our camp has been known to host so many classes that our dedicated teaching tent is often booked for more than one class a day.


There is no reason you couldn't use a standard camp stove in one of the university tents. It's been done for many other classes. The tents are much better ventilated than a travel trailer or even your home. Basic safety precaution to not have the tent walls blowing into the flame is called for, but that is really on the obvious side of safety considerations.


I've also seen several period cooking classes over firepit. This would be much less doable in the Pennsic University infrastructure. Those types of classes almost always seem to be in camp. Viscountess Aramanthra is known for running a couple different cook fire cooking classes. Others have been known to do similar and I'm sure that your approach would be different enough to have as much interest.


Having spent many years teaching in camp, I can say that you are much more likely to get an overwhelming turnout with a unique class in the Pennsic University area than you are in a camp. Especially the first time out. Once word gets out about your class for a couple years, you could pull a couple dozen or more people to a private camp but initially it tends to be less than it

would otherwise be up top.


So, I guess what I am saying is that unless you really have too much camp infrastructure to bring up to the Pennsic University tents and have to have the class in a private camp, it will be much better attended and likely more fulfilling to have the class in the university tents.


Haraldr Bassi



Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:49:07 -0700 (GMT-07:00)

From: lilinah at earthlink.net

To: SCA-Cooks <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] ISO Hints for Teaching at Pennsic


Because some SCA-Cooks listees have asked about teaching cooking at Pensic U:


I asked on the SCAteach at yahoogroups.com list, and on the recommendation of Fiadnata ? Gleann ?lainn (List-Mom, Pennsic_Teachers) i joined Pennsic_Teachers at yahoogroups.com and asked my questions there. I got the response below when i asked if it was permitted to use a Coleman stove in a standard Pennsic University tent, noting that i had seen other classes using flames - glass bead making, for example.


<<< Pennsic University is in the process of clarifying the guidelines

for using heat sources in the class tents. Thus, there is no

definitive answer to your question at this time.


In prior years, hands-on cooking classes have often been taught in

private camps where this was not an issue.




Baroness Gwynnyd

University Point Coordinator

Pennsic 40 & 41

gwynnyd at di.org >>>


Urtatim (that's err-tah-TEEM)



Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:42:19 -0400

From: Martha Sieting <osermart at msu.edu>

To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] ISO Hints for Teaching at Pennsic


<<< On a more practical note, i am not sure how i would advertise a

hands-on cooking class in an official teaching tent in that

aforementioned Official Handbook, which passes through the hands and

under that eyes of Pennsic Officials, if hands-on cooking is not

allowed in said tents... >>>


Indeed, hands-on cooking IS allowed in the Pennsic University tents. This year we had several cheese-making classes, among other subjects.


As I have stated previously, we have had people use Coleman-style stoves in the University tents without incident previously, and there is no reason why you should not be able to use one in the future. Admittedly, there is currently no published policy as to what is and is not allowed in the University tents, but we are working on rectifying that.


When class registration begins for Pennsic XLI (probably some time in January or February), please do register your classes - the earlier you sign up, the better your choice of days and times will be. If you need a "messy" tent (with a sink) make sure you indicate that in your registration.



University Chancellor

Pennsic XL & XLI


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