p-espionage-msg - 2/1/02 Information on period espionage. NOTE: See also the files: cryptography-msg, poisons-art, poisons-msg, med-law-art. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 00:24:19 -0800 From: Brett and Karen Williams To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Espionage Sean Winchell wrote: > I am currently searching for information on period espionage. I am unable to > locate any outside of what I already have. Does anybody out there have any I > dea where i can get my hands on period material, without having to write the > CIA. Sir Francis Walsingham had an extensive espionage network he funded out of his own pocket-- nigh to bankruptcy-- to serve Elizabeth I. He was the ringleader of the scheme that set up the fall of Mary, Queen of Scots. How many languages do you read? ;) There is a relatively recent book out on the murder/possible politically-motivated espionage assassination of Christopher Marlowe in the 1590's. While this is very late period, the bibliography of this book would be a very valuable resource to hunt for information on this subject. The Reckoning : The Murder of Christopher Marlowe by Charles Nicholl Paperback, 413 pages Published by Univ of Chicago Pr (Trd) Publication date: August 1995 ISBN: 0226580245 I have read this one, and it was fascinating. You might also want to try: A Dead Man in Deptford by Anthony Burgess Paperback, 288 pages Published by Carroll & Graf ISBN: 0786703210 which either seems to be considered either fascinating or deadly dull, no middle ground, or: Entered from the Sun : The Murder of Marlowe by George P. Garrett Reprint Edition Paperback, 349 pages Published by Harcourt Brace ISBN: 0156287951 The Slicing Edge of Death by Judith Cook Published by St Martins Pr (Trade) Publication date: October 1993 ISBN: 0312100116 Incidentally, the latter three are historical fiction, the first is biography with quite a bit of plausible speculation. I have only read the first so I cannot comment on the possibility of a bibliography or critical thought on the latter three. ciorstan Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:53:33 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Patrick Hughes" To: sca-arts at listproc.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Espionage You might look into Elizabeathan spying practice as she was notorious for her network of spies and informants. Slightly out of period is Father Joseph who was the spy master for Richilue (sp). By the end of period most of the great powers and many of the minor ones were using spies. Charles O'Connor From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Medieval Spies Date: 16 Sep 1999 15:53:51 GMT Organization: Ripco Internet, Chicago Camber wrote: >Can any of you out there direct me to any sources on medieval spies and >espionage during period. Have you tried Mattingly's _Renaissance_ _Diplomacy_? By and large, espionage wouldn't have worked as well as it does in today's world of centralized governments and swift communications, methinks. In a world in which it was possible for the greater vassals of a king to conduct their affairs as if they were independent powers (and I don't just mean in the Holy Roman Empire-consider, during the Hundred Years War, the behavior of the dukes of Burgundy and Brittany) and in which military forces of a considerable size could be beholden to nobody but the Almighty Florin (for example, the condottieri in northern Italy or the ecorcheurs in France), espionage has got to be really spread out and spread thin, operating on a theater level (as a hypothetical example, a commander answerable to the king of England might have a few people in the camp of his counterpart answerable to the king of France on his payroll). On the other hand, certain people would have done pretty well in that sort of situation. I believe somebody has mentioned peddlers as possible spies. Also, heralds, in many of their official capacities, would have picked up plenty of useful information, which they could then relay to their patrons. Dom Pedro de Alcazar Barony of Storvik, Atlantia Drakkar Pursuivant Argent a tower purpure between 3 bunches of grapes proper Edited by Mark S. Harris p-espionage-msg Page 3 of 3