weaving-msg - 4/15/09
਀ഊWeaving, types of cloth. Weaving techniques.
਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: looms-msg, card-weaving-msg, tapestries-msg, spinning-msg, knitting-msg, quilting-msg, textiles-msg, Cloth-of-Gold-art, color-a-fab-bib, weavng-sizing-msg.
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਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ
਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ
਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ    Mark S. Harris                  AKA:  THLord Stefan li Rous
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਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 椀氀愀椀渀攀 愀琀 瀀愀渀椀砀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䰀椀稀 匀琀漀欀攀猀⤀ഊSubject: Re: Dog Hair?
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 倀愀渀椀砀 倀甀戀氀椀挀 䄀挀挀攀猀猀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 ☀ 唀渀椀砀Ⰰ 一夀䌀ഊDate: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 10:48:48 GMT
਀ഊpatmoore at acs.ucalgary.ca (Patricia Lynn Moore) writes:
਀㸀戀琀眀㨀 搀攀猀瀀椀琀攀 琀栀攀 瀀甀渀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 渀漀琀 眀漀漀昀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀昀琀Ⰰ 愀猀 椀渀 眀攀愀瘀攀⸀ഊ>(same declension as leave/left)
਀ऀ攀爀Ⰰ 眀愀爀瀀 愀渀搀 眀攀昀琀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 琀栀爀攀愀搀 漀渀 愀 氀漀漀洀⸀ 吀栀攀ഊwarp is stretched out between the beams and the weft is the side to side
਀琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 琀栀愀琀 最攀琀 昀椀氀氀攀搀 椀渀 愀猀 礀漀甀 眀攀愀瘀攀⸀ 圀漀漀昀 椀猀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 眀漀爀搀 昀漀爀 眀攀昀琀 ഊ(really).
਀ऀⴀ䤀氀愀椀渀攀ഊ
਀䰀椀稀 匀琀漀欀攀猀         簀 ऀ䤀氀愀椀渀攀✀猀 䔀ⴀ娀 䜀愀爀戀 圀漀爀欀猀栀漀瀀ഊIlaine de Cameron  | 	We're going to try an experiment now. Instead of using
਀                   簀 ऀ愀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ 眀攀✀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 眀椀渀搀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 礀愀爀渀 椀渀琀漀 戀愀氀氀猀ഊilaine at panix.com   |    and adopt an infinite number of kittens...
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਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 樀愀戀㈀ 愀琀 猀琀氀⸀猀琀挀⸀挀漀⸀甀欀 ⠀䨀攀渀渀椀昀攀爀 䄀渀渀 䈀爀愀礀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀漀瘀攀渀 戀漀爀搀攀爀猀ഊDate: 26 Aug 93 12:19:40
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 匀吀䌀 吀攀挀栀渀漀氀漀最礀 䰀琀搀⸀Ⰰ 䰀漀渀搀漀渀 刀漀愀搀Ⰰ 䠀愀爀氀漀眀Ⰰ 唀䬀⸀ഊ
਀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 栀愀猀 琀爀椀攀搀 琀栀椀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 眀愀猀ഊonce used as a starting border for loom weaving. the warp of the main
਀挀氀漀琀栀 椀猀 琀栀攀 眀攀昀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最⸀ 礀漀甀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 愀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 琀愀戀氀攀琀ഊweaving with the weft pulled out on one side around a couple of short
਀瀀漀猀琀猀 ⠀琀栀攀 瀀漀猀琀猀 愀爀攀 栀愀洀洀攀爀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 漀爀 昀椀砀攀搀 琀漀 漀渀攀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀ഊa frame you are tablet weaving on) Marta Hoffman gives an excellent
਀搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 椀渀 栀攀爀 戀漀漀欀 漀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀⸀ഊ
਀䤀 琀爀椀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 愀猀 愀 猀琀愀爀琀椀渀最 戀漀爀搀攀爀 昀漀爀 愀 眀愀爀瀀 眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀 愀渀搀 椀琀ഊworked fine, but I find the loom excrutiatingly slow to work on.
਀栀愀瘀椀渀最 樀甀猀琀 爀攀猀琀漀爀攀搀 愀 ㄀㤀㌀　猀 昀爀愀洀攀 氀漀漀洀 䤀 琀爀椀攀搀 甀猀椀渀最 愀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀漀瘀攀渀ഊheader on that. I was told by an expert it couldn't be done, but I
਀搀椀搀渀✀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀⸀ 䤀 樀甀猀琀 猀攀眀搀 琀栀攀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 琀栀攀ഊrod I would have tied the end of the warp to. I suspect I threaded the
਀氀漀漀洀 甀瀀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 昀爀漀渀琀 愀猀 䤀 栀愀搀 琀漀 搀漀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 眀椀渀搀椀渀最 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀ഊeven on the back beam, but I wove a couple of inches last night and it
਀眀漀爀欀攀搀⸀ഊ
਀琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀 眀椀氀氀 眀攀愀瘀攀 甀瀀 琀漀 㐀　∀ 猀漀 䤀 昀愀渀挀礀 琀爀礀椀渀最 愀 猀焀甀愀爀攀 瘀椀欀椀渀最 挀愀瀀攀ഊon it. The next stage is to figure out how to do tablet woven sides
਀愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 椀昀 䤀 猀琀椀挀欀 琀漀 琀眀漀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 瀀攀爀 挀愀爀搀 䤀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀ഊfit them through the reed, but I won't get any really fancy patterns
਀琀栀愀琀 眀愀礀 甀渀氀攀猀猀 䤀 甀猀攀 戀爀漀挀愀搀椀渀最⸀ഊ
਀䠀愀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 琀爀椀攀搀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 椀渀 愀猀猀漀挀椀愀琀椀漀渀 眀椀琀栀ഊloom weaving? Has anyone got any suggestions?
਀ഊI think from my reading that most bands that were integral with the
਀挀氀漀琀栀 愀渀搀 渀漀琀 猀攀眀渀 漀渀 眀攀爀攀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 瀀氀愀椀渀Ⰰ ⠀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 吀栀漀爀猀戀樀攀爀最ഊcloaks had very wide borders they don't seem to have been patterned)
਀搀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 琀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 爀甀氀攀Ⰰ 漀爀 欀渀漀眀 漀昀 愀渀礀ഊexceptions to it?
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਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: kreyling at lds.loral.com (Ed Kreyling 6966)
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 圀攀愀瘀椀渀最 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀ഊOrganization: Loral Data Systems
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ 㔀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㌀ 　㄀㨀㔀　㨀㔀㐀 䜀䴀吀ഊ
਀匀礀爀⸀䈀攀渀渀攀渀⸀䴀愀挀琀椀爀攀 愀琀 瀀㄀㈀⸀昀㄀　㘀㘀⸀渀㌀㜀㐀⸀稀㄀⸀昀椀搀漀渀攀琀⸀漀爀最 ⠀匀礀爀 䈀攀渀渀攀渀 䴀愀挀琀椀爀攀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>Grania,
਀㸀䤀 愀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 漀昀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 戀椀最 嘀椀欀椀渀最 氀漀漀洀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀ഊ>the kind that lean up against the wall. I have two pictures to work from
਀㸀戀甀琀 渀攀攀搀 洀漀爀攀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀 ⸀ഊ>Any ideas on books or points of reference that I can turn to?
਀㸀ഊ>Also, how fine a weave can be accomplished on just such a loom?
਀㸀䠀漀眀 洀甀挀栀 琀攀渀猀椀漀渀 椀猀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀搀㼀ഊ>
਀㸀䤀 昀椀最甀爀攀搀 礀漀甀 愀渀搀 䈀爀椀最椀琀 洀椀最栀琀 最攀琀 洀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ>
਀㸀䔀愀爀氀 䈀攀渀攀渀ഊ
਀匀甀戀樀㨀ऀ刀攀㨀 圀攀愀瘀椀渀最 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀ഊDate: Mon, 4 Oct 93 18:45:15 EDT
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䄀渀搀爀攀愀 䰀漀渀最漀 㰀氀漀渀最漀 愀琀 攀最最漀⸀挀猀攀攀⸀甀猀昀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: Weaving question
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊOrganization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering
਀ഊCould you post this for me?  I can't post anything again because they won't
਀愀氀氀漀眀 琀栀攀 渀攀眀猀 猀漀昀琀眀愀爀攀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 搀椀猀欀 猀瀀愀挀攀⸀  䤀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 搀愀礀猀 戀攀昀漀爀攀ഊsomeone fixes it.
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਀圀愀爀瀀 眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀㼀㼀  夀椀瀀瀀椀攀℀  匀漀洀攀栀漀眀 䤀 洀椀猀猀攀搀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 瀀漀猀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀ഊbig problem.  
਀ഊThere is a book I have looked thru but do not own, "The Warp Weighted Loom" by
਀䴀愀爀琀愀 䠀漀昀昀洀愀渀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀攀搀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 漀渀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀ഊweaving in English.  From what I saw, however, the practical information on
਀挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀渀最 愀渀搀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 椀猀 戀愀猀攀搀 漀渀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 匀挀愀渀搀椀渀愀瘀椀愀渀 甀猀攀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀ഊarticle on constructing and weaving in Early Period (issues 2&3) that I used
਀琀漀 戀甀椀氀搀 洀椀渀攀⸀  ഊ
਀䴀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 漀渀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀 挀漀洀攀 昀爀漀洀ഊextant fragments and experimentation.  There are a few archaeological reports
਀眀椀琀栀 攀渀漀甀最栀 搀攀琀愀椀氀 琀漀 最甀攀猀猀 愀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀⸀  ഊ
਀䤀 栀愀搀 愀愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 昀椀渀搀椀渀最 瀀栀漀琀漀最爀愀瀀栀猀 漀昀 氀漀漀洀 眀攀椀最栀琀猀 愀渀搀 昀椀渀愀氀氀礀 攀渀搀攀搀ഊup making some Anglo-Roman ones from descriptions and some line drawings.  I
਀搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 眀攀爀攀 甀猀攀搀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 洀愀欀攀 渀攀愀爀ഊenough to put what I felt was enough tension on the warp.  
਀ഊExperimentation answered a lot of questions but brought up many, many more.
਀愀渀礀 昀爀愀最洀攀渀琀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 挀氀漀猀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 眀攀昀琀 戀甀琀ഊI had terrible problems with my 35 epi piece -- sticky warp, bad sheds, just a
਀渀椀最栀琀洀愀爀攀⸀  䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 椀猀 甀猀椀渀最 氀愀爀最攀爀 礀愀爀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 猀攀琀琀ഊ(based on my modern concept of what fabric should look like.)  Lots of sources
਀最椀瘀攀 猀攀琀琀 戀甀琀 昀攀眀 琀愀氀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 欀椀渀搀 漀爀 猀椀稀攀 漀昀 礀愀爀渀 眀愀猀 甀猀攀搀⸀  ഊ
਀䤀 樀甀猀琀 昀椀渀椀猀栀攀搀 愀 氀漀渀最 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 漀渀 眀愀爀瀀 眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀猀 漀渀ഊrec.crafts.textiles with a woman who does dark-ages recreation named Jennifer
਀㰀猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最漀爀漀琀栀攀爀㸀⸀  䤀 欀渀漀眀 漀昀 愀 栀愀渀搀昀甀氀 漀昀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 眀漀爀欀 眀椀琀栀 眀愀爀瀀ഊweighteds, but I am the only person I know here who does.  There is another
਀氀愀搀礀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 欀椀渀最搀漀洀 眀栀漀 栀愀猀 甀猀攀搀 愀 猀氀椀最栀琀氀礀 洀漀爀攀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀搀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ 愀 瘀愀爀椀愀渀琀 漀昀ഊthe vertical two-beam (similar to the Navajo rug loom.)  
਀ഊ
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: kreyling at lds.loral.com (Ed Kreyling 6966)
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 圀攀愀瘀椀渀最 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀ഊOrganization: Loral Data Systems
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ 㔀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㌀ 　㈀㨀㄀㘀㨀㐀㐀 䜀䴀吀ഊ
਀匀礀爀⸀䈀攀渀渀攀渀⸀䴀愀挀琀椀爀攀 愀琀 瀀㄀㈀⸀昀㄀　㘀㘀⸀渀㌀㜀㐀⸀稀㄀⸀昀椀搀漀渀攀琀⸀漀爀最 ⠀匀礀爀 䈀攀渀渀攀渀 䴀愀挀琀椀爀攀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>I am in the process of building one of those big Viking looms, you know
਀㸀琀栀攀 欀椀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 氀攀愀渀 甀瀀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 琀眀漀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 昀爀漀洀ഊ>but need more to work out the details .
਀㸀䄀渀礀 椀搀攀愀猀 漀渀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀爀 瀀漀椀渀琀猀 漀昀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 挀愀渀 琀甀爀渀 琀漀㼀ഊ>
਀∀吀栀攀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 圀漀爀氀搀∀ 戀礀 䨀愀洀攀猀 䜀爀愀栀愀洀ⴀ䌀愀洀瀀戀攀氀氀 ⠀吀椀挀欀渀漀爀 ☀ 䘀椀攀氀搀猀Ⰰ 一攀眀 䠀愀瘀攀渀Ⰰ㄀㤀㠀　⤀ഊhas a good diagram (p. 120) of a warp weighted loom. I think I have an exploded
਀搀椀愀最爀愀洀 椀渀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 戀漀漀欀 戀甀琀 挀愀渀✀琀 氀愀礀 洀礀 栀愀渀搀猀 漀渀 椀琀 爀椀最栀琀 渀漀眀⸀ ⠀伀栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 琀爀椀愀氀猀ഊof an SCA library). We'll send you a copy. "The Viking" published by Crescent
਀䈀漀漀欀猀Ⰰ 一攀眀 夀漀爀欀 ⠀䤀匀䈀一 　ⴀ㔀㄀㜀㐀㐀⸀㔀㔀㌀ⴀ　⤀ 栀愀猀 搀爀愀眀椀渀最猀 漀昀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀漀氀猀ഊas well. 
਀㸀䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 栀漀眀 昀椀渀攀 愀 眀攀愀瘀攀 挀愀渀 戀攀 愀挀挀漀洀瀀氀椀猀栀攀搀 漀渀 樀甀猀琀 猀甀挀栀 愀 氀漀漀洀㼀ഊ>How much tension is involved?
਀ഊI assure you the limit of how fine the weave is will be my skill, not the type
਀漀昀 氀漀漀洀⸀ 匀栀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 戀攀 愀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 琀漀 搀漀 㔀　 攀瀀椀 ⠀琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 瀀攀爀 椀渀挀栀Ⰰ 䈀攀渀攀渀⤀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀ഊis what the Pennsic place mats were, once I get the hang of weaving UP. I have
਀愀 瀀栀漀琀漀 漀昀 愀 猀挀爀愀瀀 搀甀最 甀瀀 愀琀 夀漀爀欀 琀栀愀琀 洀甀猀琀 戀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀　　 攀瀀椀⸀ 吀栀攀 琀攀渀猀椀漀渀 椀猀渀✀琀ഊa problem since you tie bundles of threads to the loom weights. The finer the
਀琀栀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀漀爀攀 礀漀甀 琀椀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀攀椀最栀琀⸀ 伀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 䤀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 洀甀挀栀 洀漀爀攀 ഊknowledgable after I've had a chance to play, swear, and weave on it for a while.                                           Brigit
਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊEd Kreyling			| Master Erik of Telemark O.L.,O.P.
਀欀爀攀礀氀椀渀最 愀琀 眀漀爀氀搀⸀氀搀猀⸀氀漀爀愀氀⸀挀漀洀ऀ簀 匀栀椀爀攀 漀昀 䈀爀椀渀攀猀椀搀攀 䴀漀漀爀ഊSarasota,Fl. USA  		| Kingdom of Trimaris, SCA
਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊ
਀ഊFrom: jab2 at stl.stc.co.uk (Jennifer Ann Bray)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀挀爀愀昀琀猀⸀琀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀Ⰰ爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Weaving a rain cloak
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀ 一漀瘀 㤀㌀ ㄀　㨀　㔀㨀㐀㐀ഊOrganization: STC Technology Ltd., London Road, Harlow, UK.
਀ഊI have a few woolen cloaks, some are dark age square types and some
਀洀漀爀攀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 琀愀椀氀漀爀攀搀 搀攀猀椀最渀猀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀 栀攀愀瘀礀 昀甀氀氀攀搀 眀漀漀氀ഊwill keep the rain off almost indefinately. I have not found seams a
਀瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 甀猀攀搀 爀甀渀 愀渀搀 昀攀氀氀 琀礀瀀攀 猀攀愀洀猀Ⰰ ⠀琀栀攀 猀漀爀琀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊoutside legs of jeans) Maybe this is a particularly waterproof type of
਀猀攀愀洀 愀猀 椀琀 栀愀猀 洀愀渀礀 氀愀礀攀爀猀 漀昀 挀氀漀琀栀⸀ ഊ
਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 瘀椀欀椀渀最 猀琀礀氀攀 琀攀渀琀 ⠀䄀渀 䄀 昀爀愀洀攀 搀攀猀椀最渀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 瀀漀氀攀猀 洀愀搀攀 漀昀ഊwooden beams), this tent has a woolen cover and has stood up to a
਀昀漀爀挀攀 猀攀瘀攀渀 最愀氀攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀挀挀漀洀瀀愀渀礀椀渀最 爀愀椀渀⸀ 䤀琀 眀愀猀 瀀椀琀挀栀攀搀 椀渀猀椀搀攀ഊHarlech castle, in a particularly dumb location: the rain and wind
਀眀栀椀瀀瀀攀搀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 猀攀愀Ⰰ 栀椀琀 琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀 眀愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀愀猀琀氀攀Ⰰ 挀愀洀攀 漀瘀攀爀 椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊwas funnelled into the area by the castle gate. Guess where we pitched
਀琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀㼀 琀栀愀琀✀猀 爀椀最栀琀 戀愀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀 琀甀渀渀攀氀 戀礀 琀栀攀ഊcastle gate. The relevance of all this to cloaks is that the tent
਀挀漀瘀攀爀 眀愀猀 栀攀愀瘀礀 眀漀漀氀 眀栀椀挀栀 眀愀猀 昀甀氀氀攀搀 ⠀昀攀氀琀攀搀⤀ 漀渀 漀渀攀 猀椀搀攀⸀ 䤀渀猀椀搀攀 琀栀攀ഊtent was completely dry. The gale carried on overnight and got through
਀猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 琀攀渀琀猀 琀漀 猀漀愀欀 琀栀攀椀爀 漀挀挀甀瀀愀渀琀猀⸀ഊIt looked as though the wool might have been acting as a wick, drawing
਀琀栀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 最爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 琀漀甀挀栀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀ഊwater coming through.
਀ഊThe woolen cloth the tent was made of had never been washed so it
਀瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 栀愀搀 猀漀洀攀 漀椀氀 氀攀昀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 挀氀漀琀栀猀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀ഊcertainly wasn't dripping in oil. A friend of mine has a guernsey
਀樀甀洀瀀攀爀 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 漀椀氀攀搀 眀漀漀氀⸀ 吀栀攀 樀甀洀瀀攀爀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 猀洀攀氀氀 漀爀 猀栀攀搀 漀椀氀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊhe claims it is waterproof. I don't know what the oil used is. One of
਀洀礀 猀焀甀愀爀攀 挀愀瀀攀猀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 眀愀猀栀攀搀 漀昀琀攀渀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 氀漀猀攀 愀渀礀 琀爀愀挀攀猀 漀昀 漀椀氀ഊthe wool may have contained and is still up to an hour in the rain, (I
਀栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 琀爀椀攀搀 椀琀 昀漀爀 氀漀渀最攀爀⤀ 猀漀 䤀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀愀瘀礀 眀漀漀氀 椀猀 猀漀ഊwaterproof on its own that you don't need to add much oil (unlike
਀挀漀琀琀漀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 渀攀攀搀猀 琀漀 戀攀 愀氀洀漀猀琀  搀爀椀瀀瀀椀渀最 椀渀 漀椀氀 漀爀 眀愀砀 琀漀 戀攀 瀀爀漀漀昀攀搀⤀ഊ
਀䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 搀攀昀椀渀愀琀攀氀礀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 琀眀椀氀氀 眀攀愀瘀攀猀 渀漀琀 瀀氀愀椀渀 琀愀戀戀礀 愀猀 琀眀椀氀氀ഊgives you a denser weave. If you are contemplating a seperate hood I
਀眀漀甀氀搀 猀甀最最攀猀琀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 眀攀愀瘀攀 琀栀愀琀 昀椀爀猀琀 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 洀愀欀攀 礀漀甀爀ഊfirst learning mistakes on a smaller piece and waste less time and
਀礀愀爀渀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀攀 椀爀椀猀栀 挀氀漀愀欀猀 眀椀琀栀 氀漀挀欀猀 漀昀 眀漀漀氀 眀漀瘀攀渀 椀渀 愀爀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 眀漀爀渀 戀礀ഊshepherds in other areas of Europe, Apparently you can stay out as
਀氀漀渀最 愀猀 琀栀攀 猀栀攀攀瀀 搀漀 愀渀搀 猀琀愀礀 搀爀礀⸀ 氀漀挀欀猀 漀昀 眀漀漀氀 愀爀攀 琀愀欀攀渀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀ഊraw fleece and threaded into the warp along with the weft. On designs
਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 琀栀爀攀愀搀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 攀瘀攀爀礀 猀椀渀最氀攀 爀漀眀⸀ 琀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 愀ഊposter on this group who had woven a sample like this. Apparently it
਀椀猀 椀渀挀爀攀搀椀戀氀礀 猀氀漀眀 愀渀搀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 渀漀琀 最漀漀搀 愀猀 愀 昀椀爀猀琀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀⸀ഊ
਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀愀挀氀甀爀攀 愀琀 攀漀猀⸀愀爀挀⸀渀愀猀愀⸀最漀瘀 ⠀䤀愀渀䴀愀挀氀甀爀攀⤀ഊSubject: Re: fulling
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 一䄀匀䄀 䄀洀攀猀 刀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 䌀攀渀琀攀爀ഊDate: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 01:06:18 GMT
਀ഊFulling, if I remember correctly was the process by which woolen
਀最愀爀洀攀渀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 搀爀礀 挀氀攀愀渀攀搀 瀀爀椀漀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀洀椀挀愀氀 攀爀愀⸀ 䤀琀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀搀ഊFuller's Earth ( Diatomaceous Earth ) and a great deal of heaving
਀愀渀搀 琀栀甀洀瀀椀渀最⸀ 䐀椀愀琀漀洀愀挀攀漀甀猀 䔀愀爀琀栀 戀礀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 椀猀 挀漀洀瀀漀猀攀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊskeletons of microscopic prehistoric beasties.
਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀渀最 洀愀欀椀渀最 漀昀 挀氀漀琀栀 ⠀ 眀漀漀氀 ⤀ 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 礀漀甀 洀攀愀渀ഊ"Milling" rather than "Fulling". Tweed is "milled" or used to be
਀椀渀 搀愀礀猀 瀀愀猀琀⸀ 䴀椀氀氀椀渀最 戀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀猀 琀栀甀洀瀀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀氀漀琀栀 戀愀挀欀ഊand forth across a sturdy table for hours at a time.
਀ഊIBM
਀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀ 一漀 吀椀洀攀猀 䰀椀欀攀 吀栀攀 䴀愀爀椀琀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 䔀栀℀ ⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀⌀ഊ# IBM   aka      #    ian_maclure at QMGATE.arc.nasa.gov           (desk) #
਀⌀ 䤀愀渀 䈀 䴀愀挀䰀甀爀攀  ⌀    洀愀挀氀甀爀攀 愀琀 ⠀爀攀洀甀氀愀挀⼀攀漀猀⤀⸀愀爀挀⸀渀愀猀愀⸀最漀瘀   ⠀挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀⤀ ⌀ഊ########## Opinions expressed here are mine, mine, mine. ###############
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਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀栀攀爀椀⸀匀琀愀渀氀攀礀 愀琀 瀀㤀㄀㄀⸀昀㄀　㘀㘀⸀渀㌀㜀㐀⸀稀㄀⸀昀椀搀漀渀攀琀⸀漀爀最 ⠀匀栀攀爀椀 匀琀愀渀氀攀礀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䘀甀氀氀椀渀最ഊDate: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 18:50:01 -0500
਀ഊ MB> Fulling is done to woven wool cloth, and causes the fibers to felt
਀ 䴀䈀㸀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 椀渀挀爀攀愀猀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀琀爀攀渀最琀栀Ⰰ 琀栀椀挀欀渀攀猀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀愀爀洀琀栀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀氀漀琀栀⸀ഊ
਀䘀攀氀琀椀渀最 愀渀搀 昀甀氀氀椀渀最 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀礀 挀愀渀 戀漀琀栀 戀攀 愀挀栀攀椀瘀攀搀ഊthrough the same process. Felt is what you get if you full a piece of wool too
਀氀漀渀最℀ 㨀⤀ 䘀甀氀氀椀渀最 ∀昀氀甀昀昀猀∀ 琀栀攀 昀椀戀攀爀猀Ⰰ 挀愀甀猀椀渀最 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 氀漀漀猀攀渀 愀渀搀 戀攀挀漀洀攀 猀漀昀琀攀爀Ⰰഊand more full. This often hides inconsistencies in weaving which would stand out
਀椀渀 愀 愀渀 甀渀昀甀氀氀攀搀 瀀椀攀挀攀⸀ഊ
਀ 䴀䈀㸀 䘀攀氀琀椀渀最 椀猀 搀漀渀攀 琀漀 眀漀漀氀 昀椀戀攀爀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 ⠀甀渀搀攀爀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀ഊ MB> circumtances), producing cloth in the process, which is not woven, and
਀ 䴀䈀㸀 椀猀 爀攀昀攀爀爀攀搀 琀漀 愀猀 昀攀氀琀⸀  䘀攀氀琀 搀漀攀猀 渀漀琀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 最爀愀椀渀Ⰰ 愀猀 眀漀瘀攀渀ഊ MB> goods do.  Felt is generally not as strong as an equal thickness of
਀ 䴀䈀㸀 眀漀瘀攀渀 昀愀戀爀椀挀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 搀漀 漀搀搀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀漀 椀琀Ⰰ 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 猀琀爀攀琀挀栀椀渀最 椀琀 琀漀ഊ MB> make hats, which you cannot do with woven fabric.
਀ഊFelting is done to unwoven fibers...fulling to woven pieces.
਀ഊAny animal fiber will full out nicely...and cotton also tends to "bloom" when
਀昀甀氀氀攀搀⸀ 䰀椀渀攀渀 椀猀 愀 氀漀猀琀 挀愀甀猀攀 ⴀ 椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 昀甀氀氀 愀琀 愀氀氀 ⴀ 猀漀 愀渀礀 洀椀猀琀愀欀攀猀 漀爀ഊinconsistencies stay exactly where you put them!
਀ഊUsing a washing machine is a scary proposition! It's terribly easy to over-full
਀愀渀 椀琀攀洀 椀渀 椀琀 ⴀ 愀渀搀 漀渀挀攀 昀甀氀氀攀搀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀✀琀 ∀甀渀ⴀ昀甀氀氀∀ 椀琀℀ഊ
਀䜀爀愀渀椀愀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: jab2 at stl.stc.co.uk (Jennifer Ann Bray)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: 14th C textiles & clothing book
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㄀ 䨀愀渀 㤀㐀 ㄀㔀㨀㌀　㨀㄀㐀ഊOrganization: STC Technology Ltd., London Road, Harlow, UK.
਀ഊI just got a book that might interest someone else out there:
਀ഊMedieval finds from excavations in London: 4
਀吀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 䌀氀漀琀栀椀渀最 挀⸀㄀㄀㔀　 ⴀ 挀⸀㄀㐀㔀　ഊElizabeth Crowfoot, Frances Pritchard and Kay Staniland
਀倀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 䠀䴀匀伀 ㄀㤀㤀㈀ഊcopyright of the Board of Governors of the Museum of London
਀䤀匀䈀一 　 ㄀㄀ ㈀㤀　㐀㐀㔀 㤀ഊ
਀倀爀椀挀攀 ㈀㤀⸀㤀㔀 瀀漀甀渀搀猀 猀琀攀爀氀椀渀最ഊ
਀䴀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀琀甀昀昀 椀猀 昀漀甀爀琀攀攀渀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀 愀猀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 琀椀琀氀攀ഊsays the range is from c.1150-c.1450
਀ഊThe book begins with details of sources and where the textiles were
਀昀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 猀栀漀爀琀 挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀 漀渀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 琀攀砀琀椀氀攀ഊproduction. This has some very dodgy looking drawings of looms, there
਀猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 戀攀 渀漀 眀愀礀 琀漀 洀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 戀攀愀琀攀爀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 攀椀琀栀攀爀 吀栀攀礀✀瘀攀 洀椀猀猀攀搀ഊsomething or medieval looms were wierder than I thought.
਀ഊThen the book goes into details on weaves and structures with chapters
਀漀渀 眀漀漀氀Ⰰ 最漀愀琀栀愀椀爀Ⰰ 氀椀渀攀渀Ⰰ 猀椀氀欀 愀渀搀 洀椀砀攀搀 挀氀漀琀栀猀⸀ ഊThe wool chapter even includes a couple of pages on knitting and one
਀漀渀 昀攀氀琀⸀ഊThe chapter on silk is a masterpiece of deduction, by hunting around
਀愀渀挀椀攀渀琀 猀椀氀欀猀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀 栀愀瘀攀 爀攀瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀搀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 漀昀 眀栀漀氀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 漀昀ഊcloth from tiny scraps and offcuts.
਀ഊA whole chapter is devoted to narrow wares including tablet woven
਀戀爀愀椀搀猀Ⰰ 昀椀渀最攀爀氀漀漀瀀 戀爀愀椀搀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀愀椀琀攀搀 戀爀愀椀搀猀Ⰰ 最愀爀琀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 栀愀椀爀渀攀琀猀⸀ഊThis was my favourite, as I'm a tablet weaving freak, there was a good
਀搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 愀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 漀昀 猀攀眀椀渀最 戀爀愀椀搀 漀渀琀漀 攀搀最攀猀 戀礀 猀椀洀甀氀琀愀渀攀漀甀猀氀礀ഊweaving and sewing, using the weft of the braid as the sewing thread.
਀䤀✀洀 搀礀椀渀最 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 琀爀礀 琀栀椀猀 漀甀琀 漀渀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 愀 挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀 漀渀 猀攀眀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 搀攀琀愀椀氀 漀渀 猀琀甀昀昀 氀椀欀攀 栀漀眀ഊseams were sewn, how cloth buttons were made, how the buttonholes were
਀猀琀椀琀挀栀攀搀Ⰰ 栀漀眀 琀漀 攀搀最攀 渀攀挀欀猀 礀漀甀 渀愀洀攀 椀琀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀ 䄀渀礀漀渀攀 氀椀欀攀 洀攀ഊwho spends hours fiddling about with fiddle about with period details
਀琀栀愀琀 栀愀爀搀氀礀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀攀猀 眀椀氀氀 氀漀瘀攀 琀栀椀猀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 渀漀琀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀 漀渀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 漀昀 挀氀漀琀栀椀渀最 愀猀 洀漀猀琀氀礀 琀栀攀 猀琀甀昀昀 昀漀甀渀搀ഊwas very fragmentary, but there are pictures of hoods and hose that
਀愀爀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 漀甀琀 愀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀 昀爀漀洀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 愀 眀攀氀氀ഊpreserved buttoned sleeve which might interest someone with a
਀洀愀猀漀挀栀椀猀琀椀挀 椀渀挀氀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 戀甀琀琀漀渀栀漀氀攀猀 戀礀 琀栀攀 搀漀稀攀渀℀ഊ
਀吀栀攀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 愀爀攀 最爀攀愀琀 眀椀琀栀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 挀漀氀漀甀爀 瀀氀愀琀攀猀 愀渀搀 挀氀漀猀攀 甀瀀猀Ⰰഊso you can see every detail of the textiles. The text puts everything
਀椀渀琀漀 挀漀渀琀攀砀琀 愀渀搀 挀椀琀攀猀 樀甀猀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 爀攀氀攀瘀愀渀琀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 搀攀昀椀渀愀琀攀氀礀 渀漀琀 愀 戀攀最椀渀渀攀爀猀 戀漀漀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀✀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊif you're looking for something to add to a 14th century English
਀挀漀猀琀甀洀攀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 爀甀渀 漀甀琀 漀昀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀⸀ഊ
਀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 攀瘀攀渀 搀漀 ㄀㐀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 猀琀甀昀昀 愀渀搀 䤀 最漀琀 椀琀 愀渀礀眀愀礀Ⰰ 䤀 挀愀渀 渀攀瘀攀爀ഊresist a good book on textiles, maybe that's why I never have enough
਀洀漀渀攀礀 氀攀昀琀 漀瘀攀爀 琀漀 戀甀礀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀猀栀攀氀瘀攀猀 䤀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 愀氀氀 漀渀℀ഊ
਀䨀攀渀渀椀昀攀爀ഊVanaheim Vikings
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਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䜀爀攀最漀爀礀 夀漀甀渀最 㰀欀礀爀欀攀 愀琀 䴀䈀渀攀琀⸀䴀䈀⸀䌀䄀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䌀刀䄀䘀吀 㨀 䤀渀欀氀攀 䰀漀漀洀猀 愀渀搀 夀愀爀渀⸀⸀⸀ഊDate: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 18:41:14 -0600
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 吀栀攀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䴀愀渀椀琀漀戀愀ഊ
਀䤀 爀攀愀搀 礀漀甀爀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 挀漀渀挀攀爀渀椀渀最 礀愀爀渀猀 昀漀爀 愀渀 椀渀欀氀攀 氀漀漀洀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 ഊlot of weaving, and some the materials that I use are:  the cotton 
਀欀渀椀琀琀椀渀最 礀愀爀渀猀 ⴀ 琀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 挀漀琀琀漀渀 昀椀戀爀攀猀 愀渀搀 搀漀 渀漀琀 洀愀琀琀 氀椀欀攀 ഊthe various wool and rayon/acrylic yarns; embroidery cotton, skeins, 
਀瀀攀爀氀攀 一漀 㠀 愀渀搀 瀀攀爀氀攀 一漀⸀㔀㬀 挀爀漀挀栀攀琀 挀漀琀琀漀渀 ⠀眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 氀椀欀攀 昀漀爀 ഊweaving belts).  There is also weaving yarn that is spun for people who 
਀甀猀攀 昀爀愀洀攀 氀漀漀洀猀⸀ 䤀琀 挀漀洀攀猀 椀渀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 眀攀椀最栀琀猀 愀渀搀 椀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 愀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 ഊand craft stores.  Where I live (Winnipeg, Manitoba) there is a knitting 
਀愀渀搀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 猀琀漀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀琀攀爀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 㐀 栀愀爀渀攀猀猀 氀漀漀洀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 愀氀猀漀 ഊcarry yarns for us inkle weavers.  (I have even seen people use 'rat's 
਀琀愀椀氀✀ 挀漀爀搀 椀渀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀氀猀漀 戀甀琀挀栀攀爀 琀眀椀渀攀⤀⸀  䤀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 甀猀攀 洀礀 椀洀愀最椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 ഊand experiment with as many different types of thread/yarn possible.  
਀䠀漀瀀攀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀 甀猀攀⸀  䔀渀樀漀礀℀ഊ
਀䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 䠀攀爀洀椀渀愀 䴀愀琀椀氀搀愀 搀攀 䄀椀渀攀猀氀攀愀栀 漀昀 䴀攀爀攀搀攀渀攀ഊ(just call me Ainesleah)
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਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: CRAFT : Inkle Looms and Yarn...  
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ⠀猀猀最琀 洀椀氀氀攀爀 洀⸀猀⸀⤀ഊDate: 21 Nov 94 16:56:12 CST
਀ഊIn message <3ahagh$sm3 at delphinium.cig.mot.com>, garvey at poohbear.cig.mot.com 
਀⠀䠀攀愀琀栀攀爀 䰀⸀ 䜀愀爀瘀攀礀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ
਀㸀       䤀 瀀椀挀欀攀搀 甀瀀 愀渀 椀渀欀氀攀 氀漀漀洀 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 愀渀搀 䤀✀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀ഊ>lengths of trim on it. I want to start getting serious, but I'm having
਀㸀愀 栀愀爀搀 琀椀洀攀 昀椀渀搀 最漀漀搀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀 ⴀ 猀洀漀漀琀栀Ⰰ 渀漀琀ⴀ琀漀漀ⴀ琀栀椀渀 ✀礀愀爀渀✀⸀ഊ
਀䤀 甀猀攀 ㄀　⼀㈀ 漀爀 㔀⼀㈀ 洀攀爀挀攀爀椀稀攀搀 挀漀琀琀漀渀 昀漀爀 椀渀欀氀攀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀猀⸀ 䄀渀礀 氀漀挀愀氀 礀愀爀渀 猀琀漀爀攀 ഊshould be willing to order it for  you. 
਀吀栀攀礀 愀氀猀漀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 愀 挀漀渀琀愀挀琀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 氀漀挀愀氀 ഊweaving/spinning guild.
਀ഊMartin
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਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 戀爀椀搀愀瘀攀 愀琀 䴀䌀匀⸀䌀伀䴀 ⠀䨀愀渀椀挀攀 匀欀愀最最猀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䌀爀愀昀琀㨀 䤀渀欀氀攀 䰀漀漀洀猀 愀渀搀 夀愀爀渀⸀⸀ഊDate: 20 Nov 1994 10:27:46 -0600
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䴀䌀匀一攀琀 匀甀戀猀挀爀椀戀攀爀 䄀挀挀漀甀渀琀Ⰰ 䌀栀椀挀愀最漀✀猀 䘀椀爀猀琀 倀甀戀氀椀挀ⴀ䄀挀挀攀猀猀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀℀ഊ
਀䈀甀礀 愀 挀栀攀愀瀀 挀愀渀 漀昀 猀瀀爀愀礀 渀攀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀愀猀栀攀猀 漀甀琀 愀渀搀 欀攀攀瀀猀 琀栀攀 琀栀爀攀愀搀 昀爀漀洀ഊ"Mating" although you do get fuzz balls. See me at 12th night or call and 
਀䤀✀氀氀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 椀渀 䌀栀椀挀愀最漀 昀漀爀 礀愀爀渀猀 愀渀搀 猀琀甀昀昀⸀  䤀 愀氀猀漀 猀攀氀氀ഊlooms and loom supplies to renies SCA people.
਀ഊBridget
਀⠀㌀㄀㈀⤀ ㈀㘀㈀ⴀ㠀㤀㄀㔀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: sapalmer at magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sharon A Palmer)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: CRAFT : Inkle Looms and Yarn...
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㔀 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㤀㨀㌀㜀㨀㈀㘀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: The Ohio State University
਀ഊIn article <97f_9412110453 at blkcat.fidonet.org>,
਀匀栀攀爀椀 匀琀愀渀氀攀礀 㰀匀栀攀爀椀⸀匀琀愀渀氀攀礀 愀琀 瀀㄀⸀昀㄀⸀渀㄀　㜀⸀稀㄀㠀　⸀昀椀搀漀渀攀琀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊquotes someone not identified:
਀㸀 㸀㸀 䤀 瀀椀挀欀攀搀 甀瀀 愀渀 椀渀欀氀攀 氀漀漀洀 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 愀渀搀 䤀✀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀ഊ> >> lengths of trim on it. I want to start getting serious, but I'm having
਀㸀 㸀㸀 愀 栀愀爀搀 琀椀洀攀 昀椀渀搀 最漀漀搀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀 ⴀ 猀洀漀漀琀栀Ⰰ 渀漀琀ⴀ琀漀漀ⴀ琀栀椀渀 ✀礀愀爀渀✀⸀ഊ
਀䤀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 甀猀攀 挀爀漀挀栀攀琀 挀漀琀琀漀渀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀 猀琀爀漀渀最 愀渀搀 猀洀漀漀琀栀Ⰰ 攀愀猀椀氀礀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀ഊin many colors and is a nice weight for trim.  I use a metallic gold
਀漀爀 猀椀氀瘀攀爀 椀渀 渀愀爀爀漀眀 猀琀爀椀瀀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 椀琀⸀ഊThe colors are usually too bright, so I put in some darker warps also.
਀䤀 瀀甀琀 最愀爀戀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀椀猀 琀爀椀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀猀栀攀爀 愀渀搀 搀爀礀攀爀⸀ഊThere is a store here in Columbus Ohio that sells 'seconds' balls that
਀最漀琀 洀愀猀栀攀搀 漀爀 戀爀漀欀攀 漀昀昀 愀琀 琀栀攀 昀愀挀琀漀爀礀 愀琀 ㈀　 挀攀渀琀猀 愀渀 漀甀渀挀攀⸀ഊ
਀刀愀渀瘀愀椀最ഊ
਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 氀栀漀爀瘀愀琀栀 愀琀 戀愀搀氀愀渀搀猀⸀一漀䐀愀欀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䰀漀爀椀渀攀 匀 䠀漀爀瘀愀琀栀⤀ഊSubject: tablet weaving patterns
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㘀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㔀 ㈀㈀㨀㄀㄀㨀㈀㄀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
਀ഊThe techniques of tablet weaving, by Peter Collingwood is a marvelous 
਀猀漀甀爀挀攀⸀  䠀攀 氀椀猀琀猀 愀爀挀栀愀攀漀氀漀最椀挀愀氀 昀椀渀搀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀攀猀 琀栀攀椀爀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 愀渀搀 ഊhow to achieve them, along with lots of other information.
਀ഊFiona ni Cai
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 瘀椀渀眀愀氀甀昀㈀ 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀嘀䤀一圀䄀䰀唀䘀㈀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀ഊDate: 31 May 1995 21:32:42 -0400
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䄀洀攀爀椀挀愀 伀渀氀椀渀攀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀⸀ ⠀㄀ⴀ㠀　　ⴀ㠀㈀㜀ⴀ㘀㌀㘀㐀⤀ഊ
਀䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 戀漀漀欀 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 椀猀 ∀吀愀戀氀攀琀 圀攀愀瘀椀渀最∀ 戀礀 䔀最漀渀 䠀愀渀猀攀渀⸀ ⠀䤀ഊgot my copy from Unicorn Textile Books).  It's a bit of a bear to read, as
਀椀琀 眀愀猀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀琀氀礀 ⠀瀀漀漀爀氀礀⤀ 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 䘀椀渀渀椀猀栀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀ഊbulk of the items he covers are from archaeological textiles.  
਀ഊHope this is of help.  
਀䜀眀攀渀渀愀渀 昀攀爀挀栀 䜀眀礀搀椀漀渀 伀✀䐀搀礀瘀攀搀ഊBarony of AnCrosaire
਀吀爀椀洀愀爀椀猀ഊ
਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀挀漀琀猀 匀挀栀漀氀愀爀猀栀椀瀀 一攀攀搀攀搀ഊFrom: una at bregeuf.stonemarche.org (Honour Horne-Jaruk)
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀　 䨀甀氀 㤀㔀 　㜀㨀㔀㄀㨀㌀㈀ 䔀䐀吀ഊ
਀䌀栀椀渀愀 㰀䰀愀甀爀椀攀开欀漀瘀愀氀攀猀欀椀 愀琀 渀挀猀甀⸀攀搀甀㸀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ
਀㸀 䤀昀 琀栀椀猀 搀愀琀攀 椀猀 琀爀甀攀Ⰰ 眀栀礀 眀愀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀甀渀椀猀栀洀攀渀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䨀愀挀漀戀椀琀攀 ഊ> Revolution, by the King of England, was to outlaw wearing of tartans.
਀㸀 ⠀刀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀 洀愀椀渀 甀瀀爀椀猀椀渀最 眀攀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ㄀㜀　　✀猀⸀⤀  ഊ
਀ऀ刀攀猀瀀攀挀琀攀搀 䘀爀椀攀渀搀㨀ഊ	Please note that the (incredibly nit-picky) wording of 18th cent.
਀氀愀眀猀 搀椀搀 渀漀琀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀猀攀Ⰰ 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀搀 ∀挀氀愀渀∀ 漀爀 愀渀礀 氀攀最愀氀氀礀ഊequivalent phrase, and didn't even include "scottish" or any legally 
਀攀焀甀椀瘀愀氀攀渀琀 洀漀搀椀昀椀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀 氀愀眀 樀甀猀琀 漀甀琀氀愀眀攀搀 ∀琀愀爀琀愀渀∀⸀ 䄀氀氀 琀愀爀琀愀渀⸀ 䄀渀礀 琀愀爀琀愀渀⸀ഊTartan was well known as THE Scots cloth long before any clan had been
਀瀀漀甀渀搀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 匀漀戀椀攀猀欀椀✀猀 爀愀琀栀攀爀ⴀ琀漀漀ⴀ猀洀愀氀氀 洀漀氀搀猀⸀ഊ
਀ऀ䄀昀琀攀爀 倀爀椀渀挀攀 䌀栀愀爀氀椀攀✀猀 甀渀猀甀挀挀猀攀猀猀昀甀氀 甀瀀爀椀猀椀渀最Ⰰ 洀愀渀礀 ∀爀攀氀椀挀猀∀ 昀爀漀洀ഊthe battlefields were lovingly preserved. It is interesting to note that
਀开渀漀琀 漀渀攀开 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 爀攀氀椀挀猀 洀愀琀挀栀攀猀 开愀渀礀开 匀漀戀椀攀猀欀椀 ∀䌀氀愀渀 琀愀爀琀愀渀∀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀ഊalso- at least to a weaver- interesting to note that some of them weren't
਀攀瘀攀渀 琀眀椀氀氀 眀攀愀瘀攀⸀ ⠀吀漀 愀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 漀瀀攀渀猀 琀栀攀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀椀氀椀琀礀 琀栀愀琀 瀀愀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊfighting force may have come from places where the ancient upright loom was
਀猀琀椀氀氀 椀渀 甀猀攀⸀ 圀栀椀氀攀 椀琀✀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 琀漀 眀攀愀瘀攀 琀眀椀氀氀 漀渀 愀渀 甀瀀爀椀最栀琀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀渀✀琀ഊanything resembling easy.)
਀ഊ	...Ain't science wunnerful?
਀ഊ                                Yours in service to the Society-
਀                                ⠀䘀爀椀攀渀搀⤀ 䠀漀渀漀甀爀 䠀漀爀渀攀ⴀ䨀愀爀甀欀 刀⸀匀⸀䘀⸀ ഊ                                Alizaunde, Demoiselle de Bregeuf C.O.L. SCA
਀                                唀渀愀 圀椀挀挀愀 ⠀吀栀愀琀 倀椀挀琀⤀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: deporodh at aol.com (Deporodh)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Scots Scholarship Needed
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㐀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㔀 　　㨀㄀㤀㨀　㘀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊ
਀戀樀洀㄀　 愀琀 挀漀爀渀攀氀氀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䈀爀礀愀渀 䴀愀氀漀渀攀礀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ> Clan tartans were invented after AD1800.
਀ഊMODERN clan tartans were invented after 1800 CE.  Roman descriptions of
਀洀愀渀礀 礀攀愀爀猀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 愀琀琀攀洀瀀琀 琀漀 搀攀昀椀渀攀 琀栀攀 ∀挀栀攀挀欀攀搀∀ 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 眀栀攀渀ഊyou weave the same pattern in warp and weft.
਀ഊ Alizaunde, Demoiselle de Bregeuf, writes in response:
਀ഊ> Three factors:
਀㸀 圀攀愀瘀攀爀猀 愀爀攀 挀爀攀愀琀甀爀攀猀 漀昀 栀愀戀椀琀⸀ 倀氀愀椀搀猀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀椀猀 眀漀爀猀攀⸀ 圀漀爀欀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 ഊ>a horizontal stripe or a plaid, it's easy to tell how much you've woven  at 
਀㸀琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀㬀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀猀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀愀琀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 愀氀猀漀 氀椀欀攀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 猀甀挀栀 愀渀 攀愀猀礀ഊ>way to tell good work from bad...
਀㸀䌀氀漀琀栀 挀愀渀✀琀 戀攀 搀礀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 瀀氀愀渀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 搀漀渀✀琀 攀砀椀猀琀⸀ 䔀愀挀栀 愀爀攀愀 漀昀 ഊ>Scotland is very much stuck with its native dyeplants, and thus with colors
਀㸀琀栀漀猀攀 搀礀攀瀀氀愀渀琀猀 挀愀渀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 洀攀愀渀猀 琀栀愀琀 攀愀挀栀 爀攀最椀漀渀 栀愀猀 愀 猀攀琀 漀昀ഊ>"Common" colors which the experienced can peg evey time.
਀㸀匀攀琀琀椀渀最 甀瀀 愀 氀漀漀洀 椀猀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 眀愀猀琀攀昀甀氀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 洀漀爀攀 猀漀⸀ ഊ>Nobody did it more often than was absolutely unavoidable. This means 
਀㸀琀栀愀琀 愀 洀愀渀 漀爀搀攀爀椀渀最 瀀氀愀椀搀 昀漀爀 愀 最爀漀甀瀀 椀猀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 瀀氀愀椀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀ഊ>whole group, so that the loom only gets dressed once, and the waste is 
਀㸀洀椀渀椀洀椀稀攀搀⸀ഊ>Result: Each weaver has plaids he weaves, each region has colors it 
਀㸀甀猀攀猀Ⰰ 攀愀挀栀 氀漀爀搀 栀愀猀 栀椀猀 洀攀渀 搀爀攀猀猀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 瀀氀愀椀搀 昀漀爀 氀漀渀最 瀀攀爀椀漀搀猀 漀昀ഊ>time.
਀ഊThis fellow fiber-fan has reached my own conclusions and added a few fine
਀椀渀猀椀最栀琀猀 漀昀 栀攀爀 漀眀渀 ⠀昀爀漀洀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 䤀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀⤀Ⰰ 琀栀甀猀 挀甀琀琀椀渀最 搀漀眀渀 洀礀ഊneed to point these things out.
਀ഊFrom my readings 20 years ago on the subject, Scottish weavers before the
਀䄀挀琀猀 漀昀 倀爀漀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 爀攀挀漀爀搀攀搀 琀栀攀椀爀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 漀渀 ∀猀攀琀琀 猀琀椀挀欀猀Ⰰ∀ 眀栀椀挀栀ഊdisplayed the thread colors and counts in order (an easy way to record the
਀焀甀愀搀爀椀氀愀琀攀爀愀氀氀礀 漀爀 戀椀氀愀琀攀爀愀氀氀礀 猀礀洀洀攀琀爀椀挀愀氀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 甀猀攀搀⤀⸀  匀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀礀ഊweaving of tartan was prohibited by those acts for more than a generation
਀⠀攀渀愀挀琀攀搀 ㄀㜀㐀㘀Ⰰ 爀攀瀀攀愀氀攀搀 ㄀㜀㠀㈀ 漀爀 㠀㌀⤀ 愀渀搀 ⠀氀椀欀攀 愀氀氀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊacts) made a transportable or hanging offense (only two strikes and you're
਀ 漀甀琀℀⤀Ⰰ 猀甀挀栀 猀洀愀氀氀 椀琀攀洀猀 愀猀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 挀漀氀漀爀攀搀 猀琀椀挀欀猀 眀攀爀攀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 琀栀漀爀漀甀最栀氀礀ഊlost.  If *I* wanted to try to investigate pre-'45 tartan patterns AND had
਀愀 渀椀挀攀Ⰰ 樀甀椀挀礀 最爀愀渀琀 琀漀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀 洀攀Ⰰ 䤀✀搀 猀瀀攀渀搀 愀 礀攀愀爀 漀爀 琀栀爀攀攀 琀愀氀欀椀渀最 琀漀ഊthe oldest families in the remote NC and TN and WV Appalachian hill
਀挀漀洀洀甀渀椀琀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 樀甀猀琀 猀攀攀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 愀渀礀 漀昀 最✀最✀最✀最✀最✀ⴀ最爀愀渀渀礀✀猀 漀氀搀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊjunk came this-a-way with her and survived in some fiber-traditional
਀昀愀洀椀氀礀⸀ഊ
਀䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 䐀攀瀀漀爀漀搀栀 漀昀 刀愀渀渀漀挀栀Ⰰ 伀⸀䰀⸀Ⰰ 挀愀氀氀攀搀 䐀椀猀 匀琀椀最愀渀搀椀ഊinactive
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 眀椀氀搀最漀漀猀攀 愀琀 最愀琀攀眀愀礀⸀攀挀渀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䬀攀椀琀栀 䌀甀渀渀椀渀最栀愀洀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䘀愀洀椀氀礀 琀愀爀琀愀渀ഊDate: 19 Jul 1995 17:44:06 -0700
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 圀攀猀琀 䌀漀愀猀琀 䌀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 倀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀ഊ
਀䄀 氀漀渀最 猀攀爀椀攀猀 漀昀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 洀礀琀栀 爀攀瀀攀琀椀琀椀漀渀猀 挀漀渀挀攀爀渀椀渀最 吀愀爀琀愀渀猀 栀愀猀 愀最愀椀渀 ഊsurfaced.
਀ഊSome of them are true, some are just myths, and some are outright saxon lies.
਀ഊThe saxons lies
਀㄀崀 琀栀愀琀 昀愀洀椀氀礀 琀愀爀琀愀渀猀 愀爀攀 愀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 椀渀瘀攀渀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ2] that sett sticks are lost
਀㌀崀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀✀琀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 挀漀氀漀爀 昀爀漀洀 漀渀攀 礀攀愀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 渀攀砀琀 漀爀 ഊthat you can't produce a dyestock with out the right materials grown locally.
਀ഊGael truth
਀㄀崀 昀愀洀椀氀礀 愀渀搀 搀椀猀琀爀椀挀琀 琀愀爀琀愀渀猀 最漀 戀愀挀欀 栀甀渀搀爀攀搀猀 漀昀 礀攀愀爀猀⸀  吀栀攀 ഊregistration and publication is a modern affectation.
਀㈀崀 匀攀琀琀 猀琀椀挀欀猀 愀爀攀 氀漀猀琀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 洀甀猀甀攀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀琀爀椀氀椀渀最 愀爀攀愀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 ഊhuge numbers of these sett sticks on display.
਀㌀崀 吀栀攀 眀愀猀⼀椀猀 愀 琀栀爀椀瘀椀渀最 挀爀漀猀猀 挀栀愀渀渀攀氀 琀爀愀搀攀 椀渀 搀礀攀 猀琀漀挀欀⸀ഊ
਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 栀攀愀爀搀 琀栀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 琀椀氀氀 䤀 愀洀 猀椀挀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 愀渀搀 眀漀甀氀搀 樀甀猀琀 氀椀欀攀 ഊto drive a stick thru their heart before they rise from the dead again.
਀ഊSlante'
਀䬀攀椀琀栀 䌀甀渀渀椀渀最栀愀洀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: priest at vassar.edu (Carolyn Priest-Dorman)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Weaving and the SCA
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㄀ 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 　　㨀㄀㤀㨀㌀㠀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Vassar College
਀ഊGreeting from Thora Sharptooth!
਀ഊTamar the Gypsy (dickeney at access1.digex.net) wrote:
਀㸀㸀䤀 眀愀猀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最 洀漀爀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 氀漀漀洀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 ഊ>>cost, how to construct them, what yarns were available/period for use, 
਀㸀㸀攀琀挀⸀⸀⸀ഊ>
਀㸀倀攀爀椀漀搀 礀愀爀渀猀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 眀漀漀氀⸀  圀椀琀栀 愀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 最漀愀琀 栀愀椀爀 ⠀䬀愀猀栀洀椀爀Ⰰഊ>other goat herding areas) and cow hair (I believe a pair of cow-hair socks
਀㸀眀攀爀攀 昀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 渀攀攀搀氀攀ⴀ欀渀漀琀琀攀搀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 欀渀椀琀琀攀搀 漀爀 眀漀瘀攀渀⤀ 愀渀搀ഊ>perhaps other animal hairs in isolated circumstances.  IIRC the surviving
਀㸀眀漀漀氀攀渀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀 愀爀攀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 挀漀愀爀猀攀 ⴀⴀ 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀渀攀猀琀 挀氀漀愀欀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 愀渀ഊ>oak-tree burial was woven of the equivalent of modern knitted worsted.
਀ഊThat may be true for the Bronze Age hewn-oak coffin burials from 
਀渀漀爀琀栀攀爀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 椀猀 搀攀昀椀渀椀琀攀氀礀 渀漀琀 琀爀甀攀 昀漀爀 眀漀漀氀 琀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ഊcenturies that most SCA personae inhabit.  Many surviving woolen materials 
਀昀爀漀洀 渀漀爀琀栀攀爀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀漀ⴀ挀愀氀氀攀搀 䐀愀爀欀 䄀最攀猀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 愀爀攀 ഊsignificantly finer than this suggests.  Some sample thread counts from 
਀嘀椀欀椀渀最 䄀最攀 昀椀渀搀猀 昀漀氀氀漀眀⸀  䘀漀爀 攀愀挀栀 瀀愀椀爀 漀昀 渀甀洀戀攀爀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 ഊrepresents the number of warp threads per centimeter, the second the number 
਀漀昀 眀攀昀琀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 瀀攀爀 挀攀渀琀椀洀攀琀攀爀⸀ഊ
਀        䈀椀爀欀愀           ㄀㠀砀㤀Ⰰ ㌀　砀㄀㘀ഊ
਀        䠀攀搀攀戀礀          ㌀㌀砀㄀㠀Ⰰ ㈀㐀砀㄀㔀ഊ
਀        䨀漀爀瘀椀欀          ㄀㐀砀㄀　Ⰰ ㄀㐀砀㄀㄀ഊ
਀        䬀愀甀瀀愀渀最         ㌀㘀砀㄀㔀Ⰰ ㄀㤀砀㄀　Ⰰ ㄀㔀砀㄀㄀Ⰰ ㄀㤀砀㄀㌀ഊ
਀        伀猀攀戀攀爀最         ㌀　砀㄀㐀Ⰰ ㈀㜀砀㈀㌀Ⰰ ㄀㤀砀㄀㌀ഊ
਀䤀渀 漀爀搀攀爀 琀漀 眀攀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀 眀漀漀氀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀✀搀 栀愀瘀攀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 琀漀 ഊstart with a singles warp yarn that is significantly thinner than 1mm in 
਀搀椀愀洀攀琀攀爀⸀  䄀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀椀挀欀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 ㄀洀洀 眀椀氀氀 礀椀攀氀搀 礀漀甀 愀 眀愀爀瀀 琀栀爀攀愀搀 挀漀甀渀琀 椀渀 ഊthe single digits per centimeter.
਀ഊPeriod yarns also included linen, hemp, silk, and even some ramie and cotton (in specific times and places).
਀ഊOne of these days I hope to find the time to web up a bunch of my 
਀戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀椀挀愀氀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀 漀渀 攀愀爀氀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀⸀  䘀漀爀 渀漀眀Ⰰ 挀漀渀琀愀挀琀 洀攀 椀昀 ഊyou need a reference for the above.
਀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀ഊCarolyn Priest-Dorman                   Thora Sharptooth
਀瀀爀椀攀猀琀 愀琀 瘀愀猀猀愀爀⸀攀搀甀                       䘀爀漀猀琀愀栀氀椀搀Ⰰ 䄀甀猀琀爀爀椀欀ഊ          Gules, three square weaver's tablets in bend Or
਀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: wiltshir at sover.net (S. Wiltshire)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: New hobby- weaving
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 　㔀㨀㌀㜀㨀㄀㘀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: SoVerNet, Inc.
਀ഊLord Whoever wrote:
਀㸀 䤀 愀洀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀椀渀最 氀攀愀爀渀椀渀最 愀 渀攀眀 猀欀椀氀氀Ⰰ 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 ⠀礀攀猀Ⰰ 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 椀渀 洀礀ഊ> household, especially my lady, thinks I've finally lost it, but...). I
਀㸀 搀漀渀✀琀 瀀氀愀渀 漀渀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀漀 攀氀愀戀漀爀愀琀攀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 猀漀洀攀 ㈀㐀∀ 眀椀搀攀 琀愀爀琀愀渀⸀ 吀栀攀ഊ> question is, where to get the loom (or plans to build it). I should be
਀㸀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 氀椀瘀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 昀椀砀攀搀 栀攀搀搀氀攀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰഊ
਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 愀猀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 戀攀攀渀 椀渀昀漀爀洀攀搀Ⰰ 礀漀甀✀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 愀 㐀ഊharness loom to do a proper tartan.   Plans do exist, a source in
਀最攀渀攀爀愀氀 漀昀 最漀漀搀 琀攀砀琀椀氀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 椀猀 唀渀椀挀漀爀渀 戀漀漀欀猀 椀渀 倀攀琀愀氀甀洀愀 䌀愀氀椀昀漀爀渀椀愀ഊ1-800-BUY YARN,     and I think they may have a book or two with
਀瀀氀愀渀猀⸀    ഊ
਀䈀唀吀⸀⸀⸀ 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 琀栀攀 甀渀搀攀爀琀愀欀椀渀最Ⰰ  愀渀搀 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 挀愀爀攀 琀漀 栀愀渀最 漀甀琀 愀ഊbit, or post a note over in rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace, that
਀礀漀甀✀爀攀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀 挀栀攀愀瀀Ⰰ 甀猀攀搀 㐀 栀愀爀渀攀猀猀 氀漀漀洀⸀   䄀氀猀漀 瀀甀琀 眀漀爀搀 漀甀琀ഊlocally, in your papers, and check with any local weaving guilds.  If
਀礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 愀 氀漀挀愀氀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 最甀椀氀搀Ⰰ  琀爀礀 瀀椀挀欀椀渀最 䠀愀渀搀眀漀瘀攀渀ഊmagazine from a Barnes and Noble.  They often keep listings.  I have
਀猀琀甀洀戀氀攀搀 漀渀琀漀 洀愀渀礀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀愀瀀 ⠀愀渀搀 攀瘀攀渀 昀爀攀攀℀⤀ 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ  漀昀琀攀渀 眀栀攀渀 渀漀琀ഊreally looking too hard, and most often in my own backyard.
਀ഊOh, and lastly, if you do hook up with a local weaving guild they may
਀攀瘀攀渀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 氀漀漀洀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 戀漀爀爀漀眀℀ 㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ
਀䜀漀漀搀 氀甀挀欀℀ഊSadia
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 昀漀砀搀 愀琀 攀稀椀渀昀漀⸀甀挀猀⸀椀渀搀椀愀渀愀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䐀愀渀椀攀氀 䈀漀礀搀 䘀漀砀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 一攀眀 栀漀戀戀礀ⴀ 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊDate: 14 Jan 1997 06:06:22 GMT
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䤀渀搀椀愀渀愀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀Ⰰ 䈀氀漀漀洀椀渀最琀漀渀ഊ
਀䴀愀爀礀 匀栀愀昀攀爀 㰀猀栀愀昀攀爀 愀琀 猀瀀搀挀挀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>In article <5bah62$hs2$3 at gryphon.phoenix.net>,
਀㸀䰀漀爀搀 圀栀漀攀瘀攀爀 㰀搀攀愀搀瀀漀漀氀 愀琀 瀀栀漀攀渀椀砀⸀渀攀琀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>>I am considering learning a new skill, weaving (yes, everyone in my
਀㸀㸀栀漀甀猀攀栀漀氀搀Ⰰ 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 洀礀 氀愀搀礀Ⰰ 琀栀椀渀欀猀 䤀✀瘀攀 昀椀渀愀氀氀礀 氀漀猀琀 椀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀⸀⸀⸀⤀⸀ 䤀ഊ>>don't plan on anything too elaborate, just some 24" wide tartan. The
਀㸀㸀焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 椀猀Ⰰ 眀栀攀爀攀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀 ⠀漀爀 瀀氀愀渀猀 琀漀 戀甀椀氀搀 椀琀⤀⸀ 䤀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀ഊ>>able to live with a simple fixed heddle loom, but if I knew I probably
਀㸀㸀眀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 戀攀 愀猀欀椀渀最⸀ 䤀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 搀漀 ㈀㐀∀ 戀礀 愀 洀椀渀椀洀甀洀 漀昀 㔀ഊ>>yards. Is there a good way to learn about this stuff?
਀㸀ഊ>Pick up the latest issue of "Handweaving", put out by Interweave
਀㸀倀爀攀猀猀⸀  䈀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀眀攀愀瘀攀 倀爀攀猀猀 戀漀漀欀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 愀搀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊ>magazine, you'll find everything you need to select a loom, buy or
਀㸀戀甀椀氀搀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 昀椀渀搀 礀漀甀爀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀攀愀瘀攀 礀漀甀爀 琀愀爀琀愀渀⸀ഊ>
਀㸀䴀礀 氀漀挀愀氀 圀愀氀搀攀渀戀漀漀欀 猀攀氀氀猀 琀栀攀 洀愀最愀稀椀渀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 椀琀✀猀 渀漀琀 栀愀爀搀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀⸀ഊ>-- 
਀㸀䴀愀爀礀 匀栀愀昀攀爀  䐀漀䐀 ⌀　㌀㘀㈀ 䬀漀琀䘀刀  猀栀愀昀攀爀 愀琀 甀爀猀愀ⴀ洀愀樀漀爀⸀猀瀀搀挀挀⸀挀漀洀ഊ>URL http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html
਀ഊGood plug except the magazine is called _Handwoven_.  Their address is:
਀ഊInterweave Press
਀㈀　㄀ 䔀愀猀琀 䘀漀甀爀琀栀 匀琀爀攀攀琀ഊLoveland, Colorado 80537
਀ഊ(800) 645-3675.
਀ഊAsk for a catalog of books.  I especially recommend _Learning to Weave_ 
਀戀礀 䐀攀戀漀爀愀栀 䌀栀愀渀搀氀攀爀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 愀 最漀漀搀Ⰰ 攀愀猀氀礀 琀漀 昀漀氀氀漀眀 最甀椀搀攀 昀漀爀 戀攀最椀渀渀椀渀最 ഊweavers.
਀ഊAudelindis de Rheims
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀氀琀漀渀 愀琀 攀愀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀一愀渀挀礀 䐀愀氀琀漀渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 一攀眀 栀漀戀戀礀ⴀ 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊDate: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:06:21 GMT
਀ഊdeadpool at phoenix.net (Lord Whoever) wrote:
਀ഊ>I am considering learning a new skill, weaving 
਀㰀猀渀椀瀀瀀愀最攀㸀ഊ>Is there a good way to learn about this stuff?
਀ഊGreetings,
਀䄀琀 琀栀攀 爀椀猀欀 漀昀 爀攀瀀攀愀琀椀渀最 漀琀栀攀爀✀猀 最漀漀搀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 洀礀ഊtwopence.
਀ഊLearning to Weave by Deborah Chandler is a good beginner's weaving
਀戀漀漀欀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 琀漀 眀愀爀瀀椀渀最 琀漀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀ഊfinishing.  Unfortunately I have no recommendations for books on
਀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀愀爀琀愀渀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 搀漀 攀砀椀猀琀 愀渀搀 挀愀渀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 戀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 椀渀ഊthe library or a bookstore.
਀ഊGuilds are good sources of information as has already been mentioned,
਀戀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 愀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 氀椀猀琀⸀  吀漀 猀甀戀猀挀爀椀戀攀 猀攀渀搀 愀渀 攀洀愀椀氀 琀漀ഊmajordomo at quilt.net with subscribe weaving in the body of the email.
਀唀渀琀椀氀 樀甀猀琀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 倀攀琀攀爀 䌀漀氀氀椀渀最眀漀漀搀 眀愀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀 愀渀搀 攀瘀攀渀 琀栀漀甀最栀ഊhe's taking a weaving break there are very knowledgeable and helpful
਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 猀甀戀猀挀爀椀戀攀搀⸀ഊ
਀一愀渀挀礀 䐀愀氀琀漀渀ഊska Earnwynn van Zwaluwenburg
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 琀栀攀搀甀挀欀猀 愀琀 最爀攀攀渀搀甀挀欀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀匀琀攀瘀攀 唀爀戀愀挀栀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 一攀眀 栀漀戀戀礀ⴀ 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊDate: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:09:16 GMT
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䜀爀攀攀渀 䐀甀挀欀 䐀攀猀椀最渀猀ഊ
਀昀漀砀搀 愀琀 攀稀椀渀昀漀⸀甀挀猀⸀椀渀搀椀愀渀愀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䐀愀渀椀攀氀 䈀漀礀搀 䘀漀砀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ
਀㰀猀渀椀瀀㸀ഊ>Good plug except the magazine is called _Handwoven_.  Their address is:
਀㸀ഊ>Interweave Press
਀㸀㈀　㄀ 䔀愀猀琀 䘀漀甀爀琀栀 匀琀爀攀攀琀ഊ>Loveland, Colorado 80537
਀㸀ഊ>(800) 645-3675.
਀ഊYou folks are giving us all the fun.
਀ഊGreen Duck Stocks the below mentiond book:
਀匀琀漀挀欀 一漀   䤀倀　㌀  ␀㈀㄀⸀㤀㔀ഊ
਀㸀䄀猀欀 昀漀爀 愀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最 漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀⸀  䤀 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 开䰀攀愀爀渀椀渀最 琀漀 圀攀愀瘀攀开 ഊ>by Deborah Chandler.  It's a good, easly to follow guide for beginning 
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਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 琀栀攀搀甀挀欀猀 愀琀 最爀攀攀渀搀甀挀欀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀匀琀攀瘀攀 唀爀戀愀挀栀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 一攀眀 栀漀戀戀礀ⴀ 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊDate: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:12:39 GMT
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䜀爀攀攀渀 䐀甀挀欀 䐀攀猀椀最渀猀ഊ
਀搀愀氀琀漀渀 愀琀 攀愀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀一愀渀挀礀 䐀愀氀琀漀渀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ
਀㸀搀攀愀搀瀀漀漀氀 愀琀 瀀栀漀攀渀椀砀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀䰀漀爀搀 圀栀漀攀瘀攀爀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>>I am considering learning a new skill, weaving 
਀㸀㰀猀渀椀瀀瀀愀最攀㸀ഊ>>Is there a good way to learn about this stuff?
਀㸀ഊ>At the risk of repeating other's good information here are my
਀㸀琀眀漀瀀攀渀挀攀⸀ഊ>
਀㸀䰀攀愀爀渀椀渀最 琀漀 圀攀愀瘀攀 戀礀 䐀攀戀漀爀愀栀 䌀栀愀渀搀氀攀爀 椀猀 愀 最漀漀搀 戀攀最椀渀渀攀爀✀猀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊ>book that covers everything from planning to warping to weaving to
਀㸀昀椀渀椀猀栀椀渀最⸀  唀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀愀琀椀漀渀猀 昀漀爀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀ഊ>weaving tartans, but they do exist and can probably be found either in
਀㸀琀栀攀 氀椀戀爀愀爀礀 漀爀 愀 戀漀漀欀猀琀漀爀攀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀攀 䜀爀攀攀渀 䐀甀挀欀 栀攀爀攀 愀最愀椀渀㨀 圀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 戀漀漀欀 倀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 戀礀 刀漀戀椀渀 ☀ 刀甀猀猀 䠀愀渀搀眀攀愀瘀攀爀猀 ഊScarlettt - Tartan weavers Guide (hb) 228 Designs  $16.95 Stock code
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਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀爀攀琀琀 愀渀搀 䬀愀爀攀渀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀 㰀戀爀攀琀琀眀椀 愀琀 椀砀⸀渀攀琀挀漀洀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䠀漀攀爀渀椀渀最 最爀愀瘀攀 ⠀䐀愀渀椀猀栀 挀愀 ㄀　　　⤀ഊDate: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:15:46 -0800
਀ഊDorothy J Heydt wrote:
਀㸀 䴀愀最最椀攀 䴀甀氀瘀愀渀攀礀 㰀洀甀氀瘀愀渀攀洀 愀琀 昀瀀⸀挀漀⸀渀稀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> >
਀㸀 㸀⸀⸀⸀䄀挀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 椀琀 眀愀猀 愀 眀漀洀愀渀 戀甀爀椀攀搀 漀渀ഊ> >a cart, in an early Christian burial. The interesting thing is the
਀㸀 㸀爀攀洀愀椀渀猀 漀昀 栀攀爀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀⸀ 䄀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 爀攀洀愀椀渀猀 椀猀 愀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 眀椀搀攀 戀愀渀搀 漀昀ഊ> >silverworked tabletwoven braid, which lies loose on her left side and
਀㸀 㸀椀猀 眀爀愀瀀瀀攀搀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 栀攀爀 爀椀最栀琀 愀爀洀⸀ ⸀⸀⸀⸀ഊ> 
਀㸀 䈀愀猀攀搀 漀渀 眀栀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 䤀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 眀漀洀愀渀 眀愀猀 眀攀愀爀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀ഊ> Germanic early-period  garment sometimes called a "tube dress" or
਀㸀 ∀䠀愀攀渀最攀爀漀挀欀⸀∀  吀栀椀猀 爀攀猀攀洀戀氀攀搀 ⠀琀漀 猀漀洀攀 攀砀琀攀渀琀⤀ 愀 䜀爀攀攀欀 瀀攀瀀氀漀猀Ⰰഊ> and consisted of a tube of fabric (apparently fabric could be
਀㸀 眀漀瘀攀渀 椀渀 愀 挀漀渀琀椀渀甀漀甀猀 琀甀戀攀 漀渀 愀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ 搀漀渀✀琀 愀猀欀ഊ> *me* how they did it), say four feet in length and maybe four
਀㸀 漀爀 昀椀瘀攀 昀攀攀琀 椀渀 挀椀爀挀甀洀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀⸀ഊ
਀夀攀猀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀ⴀⴀ 搀漀甀戀氀攀ⴀ挀氀漀琀栀 椀猀Ⰰ 琀漀 洀礀 欀渀漀眀氀攀搀最攀Ⰰ 愀 昀漀甀爀ⴀ栀愀爀渀攀猀猀ഊstructure, and would be extremely tiresome to execute on a warp-weighted
਀氀漀漀洀 搀甀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀琀椀挀愀氀 漀爀椀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀ഊtypical lack of a reed. (For non-weavers, warp-weighted cloth is done
਀昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 栀攀椀最栀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀✀猀 爀攀愀挀栀 搀漀眀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀漀爀Ⰰ 瀀甀猀栀椀渀最 眀攀昀琀 甀瀀ഊinto the newly formed cloth).  The Hallstadt graves have some stunning
਀琀眀椀氀氀猀 搀漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀 洀甀氀琀椀瀀氀攀ⴀ猀栀愀昀琀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀ⴀⴀ 猀攀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀瘀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊpaperback edition of Professor Barber's "Prehistoric Textiles", for
਀攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 琀栀爀攀愀搀椀渀最 搀爀愀昀琀 昀漀爀 搀漀甀戀氀攀ⴀ挀氀漀琀栀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 愀猀猀甀洀攀猀 愀 瀀愀椀爀 漀昀ഊselvedges along one side of the loom. To read the graph, I've used a *
਀昀漀爀 愀 猀瀀愀挀攀爀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 愀猀猀甀洀攀猀 愀 猀琀爀愀椀最栀琀 搀爀愀眀 搀漀甀戀氀攀ⴀ猀氀攀礀攀搀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀ഊreed (translation for non-weavers: two warp strings through each space
਀椀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀攀搀⼀戀攀愀琀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀 栀漀爀椀稀漀渀琀愀氀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 琀栀爀攀愀搀攀搀 ㄀ⴀ㈀ⴀ㌀ⴀ㐀 椀渀ഊsequential order through the heddles hanging from the shafts or
਀栀愀爀渀攀猀猀攀猀⤀⸀ഊ
਀⨀⨀⨀䈀ഊ**A*
਀⨀䈀⨀⨀ഊA***
਀ഊI believe you'd treadle 1&3, 2&4, 1&3, 2&4 etc., as you wove. A would be
਀琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 氀愀礀攀爀Ⰰ 䈀 椀猀 琀栀攀 氀漀眀攀爀 氀愀礀攀爀㬀 礀漀甀✀搀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀ഊcaught the warp correctly along the fold edge before turning back. The
਀挀氀漀琀栀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 昀漀爀洀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀栀愀瀀攀 漀昀 愀 猀椀搀攀眀愀礀猀 ∀唀∀⸀ 匀漀Ⰰ 栀愀爀渀攀猀猀攀猀 漀爀ഊshafts 1 and 3 weave one layer, harnesses or shafts 2 and 4 weave the
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਀㰀㰀洀漀爀攀 猀渀椀瀀瀀愀最攀㸀㸀ഊ> Dorothea of Caer-Myrddin                          Dorothy J. Heydt
਀㸀 䴀椀猀琀猀⼀䴀椀猀琀猀⼀圀攀猀琀                                䄀氀戀愀渀礀Ⰰ 䌀愀氀椀昀漀爀渀椀愀ഊ> PRO DEO ET REGE                                     djheydt at uclink
਀ഊAnd before someone gets the bright idea that weaving two separate
਀氀攀渀最琀栀猀 漀昀 挀氀漀琀栀 眀愀爀瀀攀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀 猀椀洀甀氀琀愀渀攀漀甀猀氀礀 椀猀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀愀氀 眀椀琀栀ഊeither a new-fangled horizontal loom or a warp-weighted loom :)  :
਀ഊ"I remember thinking how clever it would be to weave two sets of
਀瀀氀愀挀攀洀愀琀猀 愀琀 漀渀攀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 猀漀渀攀 猀攀琀 漀渀 攀愀挀栀 氀愀礀攀爀⸀  䄀渀搀 眀栀椀氀攀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀攀攀洀ഊas though I was weaving one, when it came off I'd really have two sets. 
਀䤀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀愀琀 昀漀爀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 眀栀椀氀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 戀攀最愀渀 琀漀 爀攀愀氀椀稀攀ഊpotential problems.  First, errors are more likely in the bottom layer
਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀✀琀 猀攀攀 椀琀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀昀漀爀攀Ⰰ 洀礀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 瀀氀愀挀攀洀愀琀猀 洀椀戀栀琀 渀攀攀搀 愀ഊlot of repair work.  Then there's the matter of speed.  While weaving
਀琀眀漀 猀攀琀猀 漀昀昀 愀琀 漀渀挀攀 洀椀最栀琀 猀攀攀洀 攀昀昀椀挀椀攀渀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀漀渀琀愀渀琀 猀栀甀琀琀氀攀 攀砀挀栀愀渀最攀ഊconsumes more time than you might possibly save.  Using one shuttle and
਀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 漀昀昀 愀 眀愀爀瀀 琀眀椀挀攀 愀猀 氀漀渀最 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 昀愀猀琀攀爀⸀  䄀渀搀 昀椀渀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 愀 眀愀爀瀀ഊtwice as long would have one set of loom waste*, whereas a double-weave
਀眀愀爀瀀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 琀眀椀挀攀 愀猀 洀愀渀礀 眀愀爀瀀 攀渀搀猀Ⰰ 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 琀眀椀挀攀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀 眀愀猀琀攀⸀ ഊAbout that point in my pondering, I abandoned the idea of weaving off a
਀搀漀甀戀氀攀ⴀ眀攀愀瘀攀 眀愀爀瀀 愀猀 琀眀漀 攀渀琀椀爀攀氀礀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 氀愀礀攀爀猀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 瀀氀愀挀攀洀愀琀猀 漀爀ഊanything else."
਀        䐀攀戀漀爀愀栀 䌀栀愀渀搀氀攀爀Ⰰ 开䰀攀愀爀渀椀渀最 琀漀 圀攀愀瘀攀开Ⰰ 爀攀瘀椀猀攀搀 攀搀椀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 䤀渀琀攀爀眀攀愀瘀攀ഊPress ISBN 1-883010-03-9
਀ഊ*loom waste is the inevitable parts of warp that cannot be woven due to
਀瀀漀猀椀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 漀渀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀⸀ 䈀礀 椀琀猀 渀愀琀甀爀攀 愀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀 栀愀猀ഊless loom waste than a horizontal loom-- there's no restriction on the
਀瀀漀猀椀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀氀氀 氀椀渀攀 ⠀琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 挀氀漀琀栀 椀猀 昀漀爀洀攀搀ഊby the insertion of weft) due to presence of a reed. For example, my
਀氀漀漀洀 栀愀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㈀　∀ 漀昀 氀漀漀洀 眀愀猀琀攀Ⰰ 渀漀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 栀漀眀 氀漀渀最 洀礀 眀愀爀瀀 椀猀Ⰰ 搀甀攀 琀漀ഊthe fact that I have to tie the warp to both the back beam and the cloth
਀戀攀愀洀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 猀琀愀爀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 愀琀 愀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀 瀀漀椀渀琀 愀眀愀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀ഊinitial knots on the cloth beam, then there's only so far I can advance
਀琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 挀氀漀琀栀 戀攀愀洀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最 漀甀琀 漀昀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀 猀瀀愀挀攀⸀ 䄀ഊwarp-weighted loom has weights tied to warp bundles instead of a back
਀戀攀愀洀⸀ ഊ
਀䤀 栀漀瀀攀 琀栀椀猀 攀砀瀀氀愀渀愀琀椀漀渀 洀愀欀攀猀 猀攀渀猀攀℀ഊ
਀挀椀漀爀猀琀愀渀ഊ(by no means anything near an expert weaver...I like card weaving the
਀戀攀猀琀 爀椀最栀琀 渀漀眀℀⤀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: foxd at ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu (Daniel Boyd Fox)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Hoerning grave (Danish ca 1000)
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㔀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 　　㨀㐀㔀㨀㔀㘀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Indiana University, Bloomington
਀ഊIf I remember correctly Margrethe Hald, in _Old Danish Textiles_ is of 
਀琀栀攀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䠀甀氀搀攀爀洀漀猀攀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀 ⠀吀栀攀 ∀戀漀最 搀爀攀猀猀∀ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 琀栀攀 ഊonly extant tubular dress we have--haengarock's being _wrapped_ not 
਀琀甀戀甀氀愀爀⤀ 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 眀漀瘀攀渀 漀渀 愀 㐀ⴀ栀愀爀渀攀猀猀 氀漀漀洀 ⠀眀栀椀挀栀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 愀爀爀椀瘀攀 椀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀 ഊuntil much later) or a warp-weighted loom.  It was woven on a special
਀琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 氀漀漀洀 眀椀琀栀 愀 琀甀戀甀氀愀爀 眀愀爀瀀⸀ഊ
਀䜀攀椀樀攀爀 猀栀漀眀猀 栀漀眀 琀栀攀猀攀 氀漀漀洀猀 眀漀爀欀 椀渀 栀攀爀 开䄀 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 吀攀砀琀椀氀攀 䄀爀琀开⸀ഊ
਀䄀甀搀攀氀椀渀搀椀猀 搀攀 刀栀攀椀洀猀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: priest at vassar.edu (Carolyn Priest-Dorman)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Weaving URLs
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㤀 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㄀㨀　㐀㨀㈀　 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Vassar College
਀ഊGreeting from Thora Sharptooth!
਀ഊToday I have posted two bibliographies on my website.
਀ഊ"Bibliography of Sources for Information on Period Tablet Weaves" 
਀⠀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀挀猀⸀瘀愀猀猀愀爀⸀攀搀甀⼀縀挀愀瀀爀椀攀猀琀⼀琀眀攀愀瘀攀戀椀戀⸀栀琀洀氀⤀ 椀猀 愀渀 愀渀渀漀琀愀琀攀搀 ഊbibliography of print resources that deal with tablet weaving during 
਀琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀⸀ഊ
਀∀䨀甀猀琀 圀栀愀琀 䔀砀愀挀琀氀礀 椀猀 ∀圀栀礀琀 匀愀洀礀琀∀ 䄀渀礀眀愀礀㼀∀ ഊ(http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/textilebiblio.html) is an 
਀愀渀渀漀琀愀琀攀搀 戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀礀 漀昀 琀攀挀栀渀椀挀愀氀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 栀愀渀搀眀攀愀瘀攀爀猀 漀渀 ഊdivers weaves and setts of the Roman Empire, Middle Ages, and 
਀刀攀渀愀椀猀猀愀渀挀攀⸀ഊ
਀䈀漀琀栀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 吀攀砀琀椀氀攀 刀攀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 瀀愀最攀Ⰰ ഊhttp://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/textileres.html.
਀ഊThis notice has been posted to the Rialto and the East Kingdom 
਀氀椀猀琀㬀 䤀 眀椀氀氀 愀氀猀漀 戀攀 猀攀渀搀椀渀最 愀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 渀漀琀椀挀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 䌀䄀刀䐀匀 攀ⴀ氀椀猀琀⸀ ഊ Please feel free to share this notice more widely.
਀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀ഊCarolyn Priest-Dorman                    Thora Sharptooth
਀瀀爀椀攀猀琀 愀琀 瘀愀猀猀愀爀⸀攀搀甀                        䘀爀漀猀琀愀栀氀椀搀Ⰰ 䄀甀猀琀爀爀椀欀椀ഊ          Gules, three square weaver's tablets in bend Or
਀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: Don Humberson <dhumbers at sunlink.net>
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Period looms and weaving?
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㔀 䴀愀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㈀㨀㐀㠀㨀㈀㜀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊ
਀䤀愀椀渀 洀愀挀 䜀爀椀漀最愀椀爀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> If any one as any information of period looms and weavings I would be
਀㸀 愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀椀瘀攀⸀  䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 愀琀琀攀洀瀀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀 瀀氀愀椀搀⸀ഊ
਀䴀椀氀漀爀搀 洀愀挀 䜀爀漀最愀椀爀Ⰰഊ
਀䄀渀礀 㐀 猀栀愀昀琀 氀漀漀洀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 愀氀氀漀眀 礀漀甀 琀漀 眀攀愀瘀攀 瀀氀愀椀搀猀⸀  吀栀攀 匀挀漀琀猀✀ 挀氀愀渀 ഊtartans are basically plaids woven with the same design in the warp and 
਀眀漀漀昀⸀  ഊ
਀䜀漀 戀愀挀欀 昀愀爀 攀渀漀甀最栀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀 眀愀猀 愀 猀琀椀挀欀 愀琀 琀栀攀 爀漀漀昀 愀渀搀 愀 戀甀渀挀栀 漀昀 ഊweights tied to bundles of warp threads.  
਀ഊIf you live close to the Manning's, or can get access to a modern 
਀㐀ⴀ猀栀愀昀琀 氀漀漀洀 猀漀洀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 眀愀礀Ⰰ 琀爀礀 愀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 ㈀⼀㈀ 琀眀椀氀氀 昀漀爀 愀 昀攀眀 昀攀攀琀⸀ 䄀 ഊplaid or tartan needs multiple shuttles loaded with different colors, 
਀愀渀搀 眀椀氀氀 最漀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 洀愀欀椀渀最 最漀漀搀 攀瘀攀渀 猀攀氀瘀攀最攀猀 愀渀搀 愀爀攀 ഊcomfortable weaving a smooth twill.
਀ഊIf you would like citations for actual setts, books on weaving tartans, 
਀漀爀 樀甀猀琀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 椀渀昀漀 漀渀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最Ⰰ 氀攀琀 洀攀 欀渀漀眀⸀ഊ
਀刀愀最渀愀爀 䬀攀琀椀氀猀猀漀渀ⰀഊEast, Aethelmearc, Endless Hills
਀ഊ
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 　㠀㨀㈀㘀㨀　㐀 ⴀ　㜀　　ഊFrom: Brett and Karen Williams <brettwi at ix.netcom.com>
਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Fraying
਀ഊIrene leNoir wrote:
਀㸀 䴀攀氀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀攀搀㨀ഊ> > only very open weave linen behaves this way
਀㸀ഊ> I have to disagree here.  I have some very high threadcount fine linen garb that is slowly fraying itself apart at the seams.  (made before I got my serger BTW.)  The looser weaves will fray more quickly and obviously, but I've found that they will all fray over time.
਀ഊAnd I will add that a fraying fabric is primarily caused by the way the
਀眀攀昀琀 眀愀猀 椀渀猀攀爀琀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 戀礀 琀栀攀 洀愀挀栀椀渀攀 琀栀愀琀 眀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 挀氀漀琀栀⸀ഊFiber composition is pretty much irrelevant most of the time. Even
਀氀漀漀猀攀氀礀 眀漀瘀攀渀 挀漀琀琀漀渀猀Ⰰ 眀漀漀氀猀 愀渀搀 猀椀氀欀猀 眀椀氀氀 昀爀愀礀⸀ഊ
਀圀椀琀栀 愀 栀愀渀搀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀 瀀甀氀氀猀 琀栀攀 爀攀攀搀Ⰰ 愀 猀氀漀琀琀攀搀 搀攀瘀椀挀攀Ⰰ 昀椀爀洀氀礀ഊback towards the cloth to force the weft into the warp, which in
਀眀攀愀瘀攀爀✀猀 琀攀爀洀椀渀漀氀漀最礀 椀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 ✀戀攀愀琀椀渀最✀ ⠀漀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀猀攀 漀昀 愀 琀眀漀ⴀ戀攀愀洀ഊor warp-weighted loom, the weaver uses a fork-device, a tapestry beater
਀漀爀 愀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 猀眀漀爀搀 琀漀 戀攀愀琀 琀栀攀 眀攀昀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀⤀⸀ 䰀椀琀攀爀愀氀氀礀⸀ 吀栀攀ഊoverwhelming majority of modern cloth is woven on high speed machines
਀琀栀愀琀 搀漀 渀漀琀 戀攀愀琀 眀攀昀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 愀 栀愀渀搀 氀漀漀洀 眀漀甀氀搀⸀ഊ(Incidentally, see the trade-off for cheap, vast quanties of cloth? and
਀栀椀最栀氀礀 戀攀愀琀攀渀 挀氀漀琀栀 琀愀欀攀猀 洀漀爀攀 爀愀眀 最漀漀搀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 琀栀爀攀愀搀 琀漀 眀攀愀瘀攀Ⰰ 洀攀愀渀椀渀最ഊmore expense for the manufacturer...) The firmer the beat, the less of a
਀琀攀渀搀攀渀挀礀 昀漀爀 昀爀愀礀椀渀最 愀渀搀 爀愀瘀攀氀椀渀最⸀ഊ
਀䄀氀氀 昀愀戀爀椀挀猀 眀椀氀氀 爀愀瘀攀氀 琀漀 猀漀洀攀 攀砀琀攀渀琀Ⰰ 甀渀氀攀猀猀 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 戀攀攀渀 猀漀洀攀ഊfinishing applied to prevent it-- for example, wool cloths that have
਀戀攀攀渀 昀甀氀氀攀搀 漀爀 攀瘀攀渀 瀀愀爀琀椀愀氀氀礀 昀攀氀琀攀搀⸀ 吀栀攀 琀爀椀挀欀 椀猀 愀渀琀椀挀椀瀀愀琀椀渀最 栀漀眀 琀栀愀琀ഊcloth is going to behave, and head it off at the pass before it starts
਀琀漀 猀攀氀昀ⴀ搀攀猀琀爀甀挀琀⸀ഊ
਀挀椀漀爀猀琀愀渀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:35:32 -0700
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀爀攀琀琀 愀渀搀 䬀愀爀攀渀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀 㰀戀爀攀琀琀眀椀 愀琀 椀砀⸀渀攀琀挀漀洀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䰀漀漀洀猀 ☀ 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊ
਀䴀椀攀猀樀攀 䐀攀瘀漀最攀氀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> Does anyone have any references for constructing an authentic loom, or
਀㸀 攀瘀攀渀 昀漀爀 栀漀眀 琀漀 眀攀愀瘀攀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀⼀ 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀 挀氀漀琀栀㼀ഊ> 
਀㸀 洀椀攀猀樀攀ഊ
਀䜀爀甀洀瀀Ⰰ 最爀甀洀瀀Ⰰ 最爀甀洀瀀⸀ 䤀 栀愀搀 猀瀀攀渀琀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 挀漀洀瀀漀猀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 挀漀漀氀ഊreply with links and fun stuff, but Netscape crashed. I'll try again.
਀⨀猀椀最栀⨀ഊ
਀䴀椀攀猀樀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀✀爀攀 椀渀 䄀甀猀琀爀愀氀椀愀⸀ 䤀✀洀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 椀渀 洀礀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 琀漀 猀椀琀攀猀 愀渀搀ഊcitations I've found here in the United States, nonetheless I hope this
਀眀椀氀氀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 猀漀洀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀攀爀猀ⴀⴀ 愀渀搀 䤀 栀漀瀀攀 礀漀甀 眀漀渀✀琀 昀椀渀搀 洀礀 爀攀瀀氀礀 琀漀漀ഊethno-centric on USA/Europe.
਀ഊI haven't done a whole lot of active research into these topics, but I
਀愀洀 愀 眀攀戀ⴀ眀愀渀搀攀爀攀爀 愀渀搀 愀瘀椀搀 爀攀愀搀攀爀 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 眀攀渀搀攀搀 洀礀 眀愀礀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀ഊinformation you might find of interest.  
਀ഊFirstly, you have three very broad requests there, the last one is
਀爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 攀愀猀礀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 愀 氀椀渀欀⸀  䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 吀栀漀爀愀 匀栀愀爀瀀琀漀漀琀栀 ⠀䌀愀爀漀氀礀渀ഊPriest-Dorman) is a weaver interested in period fabric construction
਀⠀琀栀漀甀最栀 愀搀洀椀琀琀攀搀氀礀 瀀爀椀洀愀爀椀氀礀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最⸀⸀⸀⤀⸀ 匀栀攀✀猀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀琀㨀ഊ
਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀瘀愀猀猀愀爀⸀攀搀甀⼀縀挀愀瀀爀椀攀猀琀⼀ഊ
਀愀渀搀 栀攀爀 琀攀砀琀椀氀攀 戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀椀攀猀 愀爀攀 瘀攀爀礀 攀砀琀攀渀猀椀瘀攀℀℀ഊ
਀䤀渀琀攀爀眀攀愀瘀攀 倀爀攀猀猀 栀愀猀 愀 戀漀漀欀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 䄀 圀攀愀瘀攀爀✀猀 䈀漀漀欀 漀昀 䔀椀最栀琀 匀栀愀昀琀ഊWeaving Patterns, ISBN 0-934026-67-, edited by Carol Strickler, that
਀挀漀渀琀愀椀渀猀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 甀渀搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀攀搀ⴀ琀栀漀甀最栀ⴀ挀漀渀樀攀挀琀甀爀愀氀氀礀ⴀ瀀攀爀椀漀搀 搀爀愀昀琀猀 愀渀搀ഊdrawdowns for gorgeous twills, perfect for the Society handweaver. Check
਀漀甀琀 猀愀洀瀀氀攀猀 ㈀㜀　 愀渀搀 ㈀㜀㄀℀℀ഊ
਀夀漀甀爀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 爀攀焀甀攀猀琀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最 愀 氀漀漀洀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀ഊbeen reading the discussion earlier on warp-weighted looms vs.
਀栀漀爀椀稀漀渀琀愀氀 氀漀漀洀猀Ⰰ 瀀爀椀洀愀爀椀氀礀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 搀攀挀椀搀攀 眀栀愀琀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 礀漀甀ഊwant as an end product.
਀ഊWith respect to constructing a warp-weighted loom, a good illustration
਀漀昀 愀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀 椀渀 戀甀猀椀渀攀猀猀 椀猀 氀漀挀愀琀攀搀 愀琀 䴀愀猀琀攀爀 䜀攀爀攀欀爀✀猀ഊpage:
਀ഊhttp://www.users.aol.com/gerekr/costume/html#warp
਀ഊand another, encyclopedic page (Ullarbladid) showing several pictures of
਀洀漀爀攀 攀氀愀戀漀爀愀琀攀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀猀 眀椀琀栀 攀砀瀀氀愀渀愀琀漀爀礀 瀀愀爀琀猀 氀椀猀琀攀搀 椀渀ഊIcelandic and English at:
਀ഊhttp://www.dmv.com/~iceland/vefstadur/vefstadur.html
਀ഊa weaver's source page is maintained by Ruthe Stowe at:
਀ഊhttp://home.netinc.ca/~rstowe/weave.html
਀ഊwith links to Ullarbladid, Robin and Russ, Halcyon and many more sources
਀漀昀 礀愀爀渀猀Ⰰ 攀渀琀椀爀攀 瀀爀攀ⴀ洀愀搀攀 氀漀漀洀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀爀琀猀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 挀爀礀瀀琀椀挀 爀攀洀愀爀欀 眀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀ഊsense in a moment. While we're on the subject o warp-wieighted looms, a
਀一愀瘀愀栀漀ⴀ猀琀礀氀攀 氀漀漀洀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 攀愀猀椀氀礀 洀漀搀椀昀椀攀搀 琀漀 愀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀 戀礀ഊomitting the lower apron rod. I mention this as my late step-mother, a
਀瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀 戀礀 琀爀愀搀攀Ⰰ 戀甀椀氀琀 栀攀爀猀攀氀昀 愀 戀椀最 漀渀攀 漀甀琀 漀昀 洀攀琀愀氀ഊplumbing pipe and lumber, on which she wove (amongst other things) an
਀椀渀挀爀攀搀椀戀氀攀 㔀✀ 戀礀 㠀✀ 琀愀瀀攀猀琀爀礀 漀昀 栀愀渀搀ⴀ猀瀀甀渀 愀渀搀 ⴀ搀礀攀搀 眀漀漀氀⸀ ഊ
਀䤀 搀漀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 栀愀渀搀礀 氀椀渀欀 猀栀漀眀椀渀最 愀 ✀洀漀搀攀爀渀✀ 昀氀漀漀爀 氀漀漀洀 眀椀琀栀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀ഊparts labelled, alas, so if my following answer is too technical, let me
਀欀渀漀眀 愀渀搀 䤀✀氀氀 最氀愀搀氀礀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀⸀ഊ
਀䤀 愀洀 渀漀琀 愀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀氀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀搀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 栀漀眀攀瘀攀爀 䤀✀瘀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀栀愀琀 䤀ഊhave already formed definite opinions about what I want in a horizontal
਀氀漀漀洀ⴀⴀ 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 眀愀渀琀⸀  䈀甀椀氀搀椀渀最 愀 栀漀爀椀稀漀渀琀愀氀 氀漀漀洀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀ഊmore massive undertaking than a warp-weighted loom due to the simple
਀昀愀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 愀猀 愀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 洀愀挀栀椀渀攀爀礀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 愀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀椀挀愀琀攀搀 搀攀瘀椀挀攀 琀栀愀渀ഊthe warp-weighted loom.  At a minimum, the hard parts to construct would
਀戀攀 琀栀攀 瀀甀氀氀攀礀 猀礀猀琀攀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀猀琀氀攀Ⰰ 昀漀漀琀 瀀攀搀愀氀猀Ⰰ 猀栀愀昀琀猀 愀渀搀ഊheddle-races, and the reed-- which parts are crucial to the operation of
਀愀 栀漀爀椀稀漀渀琀愀氀 氀漀漀洀 愀渀搀 琀漀 猀漀洀攀 攀砀琀攀渀琀Ⰰ 搀攀昀椀渀攀 琀栀攀 栀漀爀椀稀漀渀琀愀氀 氀漀漀洀⸀  䄀琀 愀ഊminimum one needs two shafts/harnesses to form a shed (that's the
਀漀瀀攀渀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 椀渀猀攀爀琀 琀栀攀 眀攀昀琀Ⰰ 琀栀甀猀 昀漀爀洀椀渀最 昀愀戀爀椀挀ഊat a point called the fell line). I've seen commercial looms advertized
਀昀漀爀 ㈀ⴀⰀ 㐀ⴀⰀ 㠀ⴀⰀ ㄀㈀ⴀⰀ ㄀㘀ⴀ 愀渀搀 攀瘀攀渀 ㈀㐀ⴀ猀栀愀昀琀猀⼀栀愀爀渀攀猀猀攀猀⸀ 䴀椀渀攀 漀眀渀 氀漀漀洀ഊhath eight-- and ten pedals (this allows one to tie up plain cloth, or
਀琀愀戀戀礀Ⰰ 椀渀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 愀渀 攀椀最栀琀ⴀ猀栀愀昀琀 搀爀愀眀ⴀ搀漀眀渀Ⰰ 漀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 愀氀琀攀爀渀愀琀椀瘀攀Ⰰ 愀ഊten-shaft pattern and no tabby. I digress.) and it weaves 21" cloth. *I*
਀琀栀椀渀欀 椀琀✀猀 瀀攀爀昀攀挀琀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 渀漀眀⸀ 㨀⤀ ഊ
਀吀栀攀渀 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 琀栀攀 爀攀攀搀⸀ 伀渀 愀 挀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀氀礀ⴀ洀愀搀攀 栀漀爀椀稀漀渀琀愀氀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 爀攀攀搀ഊis the metal dingus that beats the weft into the shed. It also serves as
਀愀渀 愀氀椀最渀洀攀渀琀 搀攀瘀椀挀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 愀猀 椀琀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 戀愀挀欀 戀攀愀洀Ⰰഊthrought the heddles to the fell line. In period it was constructed out
਀漀昀Ⰰ 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 爀攀攀搀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 瀀爀攀猀甀洀攀 眀攀爀攀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 爀攀攀搀猀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀ഊperiod corsetry, called bents. In the eastern United States it is
਀瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 琀漀 氀甀挀欀 漀甀琀 愀渀搀 戀甀礀 愀 戀愀爀渀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 愀渀挀椀攀渀琀 戀愀爀渀 氀漀漀洀 猀琀椀氀氀ഊcontained therein (usually in questionable condition)-- and its reed, or
਀昀椀渀搀 愀 戀愀爀渀 氀漀漀洀 昀漀爀 猀愀氀攀 愀猀 愀渀 愀渀琀椀焀甀攀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀氀礀 渀攀瘀攀爀ഊexamined an antique reed, so I cannot comment with any authority theron,
਀漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀漀 猀愀礀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 漀渀挀攀 爀攀愀搀 愀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 戀礀 愀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀 眀栀漀ഊdid use a barn loom with antique reed to weave American
਀刀攀瘀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀愀爀礀ⴀ猀琀礀氀攀 挀氀漀琀栀㬀 猀栀攀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀爀攀搀 琀栀攀 瘀攀最攀琀愀戀氀攀 爀攀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀ഊtype of cloth over a modern steel reed for reasons I don't remember at
਀琀栀椀猀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀爀 爀攀愀猀漀渀椀渀最 洀愀搀攀 瀀攀爀昀攀挀琀ഊsense at the time. 
਀ഊRobin and Russ Handweavers, Inc., sell loom parts.
਀ഊI personally have two stainless steel reeds for my loom (no rust!), 6-
਀愀渀搀 ㄀㈀ⴀ搀攀渀琀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 椀渀挀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀✀洀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 氀甀猀琀椀渀最 愀昀琀攀爀 愀 ㄀　ⴀ 漀爀ഊ20-dent as I really want to weave some fine linen, like 40 or 60 ppi.
਀䔀瘀攀渀琀甀愀氀氀礀⸀ 㨀⤀  䴀礀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀 椀猀 愀 眀漀漀氀⼀猀椀氀欀 戀氀攀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀昀琀攀爀 漀渀攀ഊinch of weaving has already suffered two broken warps out of 199 total;
਀琀栀攀 礀愀爀渀 椀猀 爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 栀愀椀爀礀 愀渀搀 椀猀 栀愀渀最椀渀最 甀瀀 椀渀 琀栀攀 栀攀搀搀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 爀攀攀搀⸀ഊThis goes back to my earlier comment on knowing what you want to produce
਀愀猀 愀 昀椀渀愀氀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀ⴀⴀ 愀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 漀渀 眀漀漀氀 搀甀攀 琀漀ഊits lack of reed and string heddles; bast and cotton are easier on a
਀栀漀爀椀稀漀渀琀愀氀 氀漀漀洀⸀ 䴀礀 猀椀氀欀⼀眀漀漀氀 椀猀 搀漀甀戀氀攀 猀氀攀礀攀搀 ㈀㐀 瀀椀挀欀猀 瀀攀爀 椀渀挀栀 椀渀 愀ഊ12-dent reed, which is easier on wool warp, but...
਀ഊAt any rate, I need to get to bed, so I will stop yacking!  I hope this
਀栀攀氀瀀猀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀 椀琀✀猀 瘀攀爀礀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀Ⰰ 愀猀 䤀 猀愀椀搀⸀ഊ
਀挀椀漀爀猀琀愀渀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:45:42 -0500
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 圀攀渀搀礀 刀漀戀攀爀琀猀漀渀 㰀眀挀爀漀戀攀爀琀 愀琀 戀氀甀攀⸀眀攀攀最⸀甀椀漀眀愀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 ㄀㘀䌀  䤀爀椀猀栀 䰀漀漀洀猀 ☀ 䰀攀椀渀攀ഊ
਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 攀愀爀氀礀 䌀栀爀椀猀琀椀愀渀 䤀爀椀猀栀 氀漀漀洀 眀椀搀琀栀猀⸀ഊThis is much earlier than the 16th century, but I thought it might be of
਀椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀 愀渀礀眀愀礀⸀ഊ
਀䠀漀搀欀椀渀猀漀渀Ⰰ 䈀爀椀愀渀⸀ ∀䄀 爀攀愀瀀瀀爀愀椀猀愀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀爀挀栀愀攀漀氀漀最椀挀愀氀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊin Ireland in the early Christian period."  Ulster journal of archaeology,
਀㌀爀搀 猀攀爀⸀Ⰰ 瘀⸀㔀　 ⠀㄀㤀㠀㜀⤀㨀㐀㜀ⴀ㔀㌀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀攀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 猀琀愀琀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 渀漀琀椀挀攀愀戀氀攀 氀愀挀欀 漀昀 氀漀漀洀猀 眀攀椀最栀琀猀 昀爀漀洀ഊIreland, so the warp weighted loom was probably not heavily used.  "The 120
਀猀椀琀攀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 愀爀攀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 猀甀爀瘀攀礀 ⠀愀渀搀 眀栀椀挀栀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 爀攀瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 漀瘀攀爀ഊ90% of the settlement sites published up to and including 1985) have
਀瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀搀 愀 洀椀砀椀洀甀洀 漀昀 ㈀　 氀漀漀洀 眀攀椀最栀琀猀⸀∀ ⠀瀀⸀㐀㜀⤀ഊ
਀䤀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 眀愀爀瀀 眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 愀甀琀栀漀爀 猀甀最最攀猀琀猀 琀眀漀 戀攀愀洀 瘀攀爀琀椀挀愀氀 氀漀漀洀猀ഊwere used (introduced from Romans) and backstrap looms were used.
਀䈀愀挀欀猀琀爀愀瀀 氀漀漀洀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 渀愀爀爀漀眀 挀氀漀琀栀⸀  ∀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 昀攀眀ഊsurviving Early Christian textiles with both selvedges; the only examples
਀欀渀漀眀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀爀椀琀攀爀 愀爀攀 猀椀渀最氀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 䰀愀最漀爀攀 愀渀搀 䈀愀氀椀渀搀攀爀爀礀 ㈀Ⰰ 戀漀琀栀 漀昀ഊwhich are narrow, with widths of 34.5 cms (13 1/2 inches) and 25 cms (10
਀椀渀挀栀攀猀⤀ 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀椀瘀攀氀礀⸀ ⸀ ⸀ ⸀ 吀栀攀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 琀愀戀戀礀 眀攀愀瘀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䰀愀最漀爀攀 琀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀ഊare perfectly possible on this type of loom" (p.48)
਀ഊThe author suggests that later use of narrow cloth in Irish garments may
਀挀漀洀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀椀猀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ
਀䄀椀氀攀渀攀 渀椀挀 䄀攀搀愀椀渀ഊShire of Shadowdale, Calontir
਀眀挀爀漀戀攀爀琀 愀琀 戀氀甀攀⸀眀攀攀最⸀甀椀漀眀愀⸀攀搀甀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:07:38 -0600 (CST)
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䐀漀渀渀愀 䠀漀氀猀琀攀渀∀ 㰀栀漀氀猀琀攀渀 愀琀 渀愀琀甀爀攀⸀䈀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀⸀䔀䐀唀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 椀渀欀氀攀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 ☀ 眀愀爀瀀 昀愀挀攀搀 戀愀渀搀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊ
਀䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀攀搀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀 洀礀 戀漀漀欀猀 氀愀猀琀 渀椀最栀琀℀  䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 戀甀渀挀栀 漀昀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀猀 漀昀ഊgarters, belts, and otherwise unidentified tapes, in _Textiles_, some
਀挀漀猀琀甀洀攀⼀琀攀砀琀椀氀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀Ⰰ 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 椀渀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 樀攀眀攀氀攀爀礀 戀漀漀欀猀 洀礀ഊhusband has.  (They have close-up pictures of buckles, many of which still
਀栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 愀琀琀愀挀栀攀搀⸀⤀  吀栀攀 椀琀攀洀猀 爀愀渀最攀搀 昀爀漀洀 攀愀爀氀礀 䄀䐀 琀漀 ㄀㘀琀栀 䌀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀ഊ
਀⠀䨀甀猀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 眀攀✀爀攀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 瘀漀挀愀戀甀氀愀爀礀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀ഊtimes I've gotten the feeling that maybe we aren't quite, <G> "tabby"
਀猀椀洀瀀氀礀 洀攀愀渀猀 漀瘀攀爀ⴀ漀渀攀Ⰰ 甀渀搀攀爀ⴀ漀渀攀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 愀 眀攀愀瘀攀 猀琀爀甀挀琀甀爀攀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀ഊan end result.  Tabby can be "weft-faced", like in tapestry, or 50/50, or
਀∀眀愀爀瀀ⴀ昀愀挀攀搀∀Ⰰ 漀爀 愀渀礀眀栀攀爀攀 椀渀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀⸀  开吀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀开 甀猀攀猀 琀栀攀 琀攀爀洀 ∀琀愀戀戀礀∀ 琀漀ഊdifferentiate the items from "cardwoven" or otherwise produced--not
਀渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 愀猀 愀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 栀漀眀 琀栀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀 攀渀搀猀 甀瀀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀⤀ഊ
਀䄀氀氀 琀栀攀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 漀昀 ⨀瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀攀搀⨀ 椀琀攀洀猀 ⠀攀砀挀攀瀀琀 琀栀攀 琀愀瀀攀猀琀爀礀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀ഊCoptic/Byzantine strips) look to be card-woven.  In fact, the only
਀渀漀渀ⴀ挀愀爀搀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀 琀愀瀀攀猀⼀戀攀氀琀猀⼀最愀爀琀攀爀猀 䤀 猀愀眀 眀攀爀攀 椀渀 开吀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀开 愀渀搀 愀ഊViking (?) belt that was leather with a loose 50/50 tabby silk over
਀琀栀攀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 椀渀 开吀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀开 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 㔀　⼀㔀　 琀愀戀戀礀 猀椀氀欀ഊstrips--but I'm not really sure if they're tapes, or strips cut from a
਀氀愀爀最攀爀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 昀愀戀爀椀挀⸀  吀栀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 猀栀漀眀渀 漀渀 瀀愀最攀 ㄀㐀㈀ 愀爀攀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ昀愀挀攀搀⸀ഊIn fact, if you look at the chart on page 141, the tapes they found
਀爀愀渀最攀 昀爀漀洀 ⠀琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 瀀攀爀 挀洀Ⰰ 眀愀爀瀀⼀眀攀昀琀⤀ 愀 ㌀　⼀㌀　 攀瘀攀渀眀攀愀瘀攀 琀漀 愀 㐀㠀⼀㄀㌀ഊ*very* warp-faced fabric.
਀ഊWhile it is possible to do elaborate finger-manipulated weaves based on a
਀爀椀最椀搀ⴀ栀攀搀搀氀攀 琀愀戀戀礀Ⰰ 礀漀甀✀爀攀 爀椀最栀琀 椀渀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀✀猀 愀 戀椀琀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 琀漀 搀漀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀ഊcard-weaving.  (Which, I imagine, is why most/all the extant pieces with
਀攀氀愀戀漀爀愀琀攀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀椀渀最 愀爀攀 挀愀爀搀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀⸀⸀⸀  吀栀愀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 昀愀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 愀ഊsomewhat sturdier fabric.)  _Textiles_ says that the examples
਀琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 戀攀 漀昀 愀氀氀 漀渀攀 挀漀氀漀爀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 ∀猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 猀椀氀欀 爀椀戀戀漀渀猀ഊstitched to vestments show that many were made with multi-colored stripes."
਀⠀倀愀最攀 ㄀㐀㈀⤀  䄀渀搀 琀栀攀渀Ⰰ 漀渀 瀀愀最攀 ㄀㐀㐀Ⰰ 椀琀 琀愀氀欀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 最愀爀琀攀爀猀 洀愀搀攀 眀椀琀栀 ∀愀 氀漀渀最ഊwarp...set up on a narrow band loom", one of which has red and black
਀猀琀爀椀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 椀渀 愀 猀氀椀最栀琀氀礀ⴀ洀漀爀攀ⴀ挀漀洀瀀氀椀挀愀琀攀搀ⴀ琀栀愀渀ⴀ琀愀戀戀礀 眀攀愀瘀攀⸀  ⠀䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 琀攀氀氀ഊfrom the picture, though, whether it's 50/50 or warp-faced.)
਀ഊI think, as a safe general statement, if an item was to be very patterned,
਀漀爀 甀猀攀搀 愀猀 愀 戀攀氀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 挀愀爀搀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀⸀  㔀　⼀㔀　 ⨀愀渀搀⨀ 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ昀愀挀攀搀ഊtabby strips were used as facings, garters, trim, or maybe tie-ribbons.
਀䴀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀愀戀戀礀 猀琀爀椀瀀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 洀漀渀漀挀漀氀漀爀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 猀漀洀攀 眀攀爀攀 猀琀爀椀瀀攀搀 漀爀ഊpatterned.
਀ഊ> ...I was wondering if there was any evidence for bands of the type that could
਀㸀 戀攀 洀愀搀攀 漀渀 愀渀 椀渀欀氀攀 氀漀漀洀⸀  䤀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 渀椀挀攀 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 猀愀礀 琀栀愀琀 猀甀挀栀ഊ> weaving was actually period.
਀ഊI would certainly say, yes, used for the appropriate purpose, it was.
਀⠀吀栀攀 昀椀渀椀猀栀攀搀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀 椀猀Ⰰ 攀瘀攀渀 椀昀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀 甀猀攀搀 洀愀礀戀攀 椀猀渀✀琀⸀⸀⸀ 㰀䜀㸀⤀ഊAnd, something I have to keep reminding myself, is that even though
਀开吀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀开 椀猀 攀砀栀愀甀猀琀椀瘀攀 愀渀搀 愀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 爀攀猀漀甀爀挀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 漀渀氀礀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 䰀漀渀搀漀渀ഊfrom about 1100-1400.  It doesn't even *touch* other times or places.
਀ഊActually, IMHO the *biggest* problem I see with most of the inkle/card
਀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 搀漀Ⰰ 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 礀愀爀渀 椀猀 ⨀眀愀礀⨀ 琀漀漀 挀漀愀爀猀攀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀ഊoverplied.  Now, granted, for the first few projects people
਀愀爀攀渀✀琀 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 甀猀攀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀 琀栀爀攀愀搀 漀爀 爀攀攀氀攀搀 猀椀氀欀Ⰰഊbut a heavy crochet-cotton cord just doesn't quite give the right
਀爀攀猀甀氀琀猀⸀  㬀ⴀ⤀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀 琀栀攀 挀栀愀爀琀 椀渀 开吀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀开 漀渀 瀀愀最攀 ㄀㐀㄀Ⰰ 琀栀攀ഊcoarsest tabby-woven braid they have is 28/12 warp/weft threads *per
਀挀攀渀琀椀洀攀琀攀爀⨀⸀  ⠀䄀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀氀猀漀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀猀 琀漀 戀攀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 眀漀漀氀 琀愀瀀攀 氀椀猀琀攀搀⸀⤀ഊWhich means about 70/30 threads *per inch*.  Quite frankly, if you
਀洀愀渀愀最攀 琀漀 椀渀欀氀攀ⴀ眀攀愀瘀攀 愀 琀愀瀀攀 琀栀愀琀 昀椀渀攀Ⰰ 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 氀攀猀猀 琀栀愀渀 漀渀攀 瀀攀爀挀攀渀琀ഊof the people who see it are even going to be able to tell whether it
਀眀愀猀 椀渀欀氀攀ⴀ 漀爀 挀愀爀搀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀℀  㬀ⴀ⤀ഊ
਀䤀 栀漀瀀攀 琀栀椀猀 栀攀氀瀀攀搀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀⸀⸀⸀ഊ
਀䨀漀愀渀渀愀 䴀攀氀椀猀猀愀 刀漀渀猀椀瘀愀氀氀攀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 08:37:31 -0700
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀爀攀琀琀 愀渀搀 䬀愀爀攀渀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀 㰀戀爀攀琀琀眀椀 愀琀 椀砀⸀渀攀琀挀漀洀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䤀渀欀氀攀 圀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊ
਀䰀愀甀爀椀攀 䰀甀挀稀礀欀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I have been inkle weaving for a while now and have a question on the
਀㸀 戀攀猀琀 洀攀琀栀漀搀猀 琀漀 昀椀渀椀猀栀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀猀 愀昀琀攀爀 愀 瀀椀攀挀攀 椀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀⸀ഊ> Currently I am just braiding the fringe, but am very unhappy with the
਀㸀 眀愀礀 椀琀 氀漀漀欀猀⸀  䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 椀昀 䤀 搀攀挀椀搀攀 琀漀 甀猀 椀琀 愀猀 琀爀椀洀 琀栀椀猀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 眀椀氀氀 渀漀琀ഊ> work.
਀㸀 ഊ> Any suggestions/comments? 
਀㸀 ⴀ䰀愀搀礀 䄀渀椀猀愀栀 匀愀栀愀爀ഊ
਀䤀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 愀 昀椀渀椀猀栀椀渀最 洀攀琀栀漀搀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 昀漀爀 甀猀攀 愀猀ഊfabric trim would be dependent on what fiber you're using in your inkle
਀戀愀渀搀猀⸀ 䤀猀 椀琀 眀漀漀氀㼀 䌀漀琀琀漀渀㼀 䰀椀渀攀渀㼀 匀氀椀瀀瀀攀爀礀 猀椀氀欀㼀 䠀漀眀 琀栀椀挀欀 椀猀 琀栀攀 戀愀渀搀ഊ(which is not to say, how wide or long...)?
਀ഊAs an example, my one and only inkle length to date is of fairly thick
਀眀漀漀氀 ⠀琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 愀瀀瀀攀愀氀猀 洀漀爀攀 琀漀 洀礀 猀攀渀猀椀戀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀⸀⸀⸀ 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀ഊpreference. Besides, the design possibilities are greater! ;) ). I
਀栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 戀漀琀栀攀爀攀搀 昀椀渀椀猀栀椀渀最 琀栀攀 氀漀渀最 攀渀搀猀 礀攀琀 愀猀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀ഊany raveling going on. If I were to use it for trim (leine bands for
਀猀氀攀攀瘀攀猀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 戀攀 椀琀猀 搀攀猀琀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀⤀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 䤀✀搀 栀愀渀搀 猀琀椀琀挀栀 琀栀攀 氀漀渀最 攀搀最攀猀ഊon, I'd knot the band's raw edge off using a lot of little knots to
਀愀瘀漀椀搀 戀甀氀欀Ⰰ 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀氀礀 琀甀爀渀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 爀愀眀 攀搀最攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀愀渀搀Ⰰ 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 最椀瘀攀ഊit a light glob of Fray Check where no sins would be seen between the
਀昀愀戀爀椀挀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 戀愀渀搀 愀渀搀 栀愀渀搀ⴀ猀琀椀琀挀栀 琀栀攀 漀瀀攀渀椀渀最 猀栀甀琀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 瘀愀爀椀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀ഊthis idea would most likely work.
਀ഊciorstan
਀ഊ
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 㠀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㄀㨀㐀㈀㨀㈀㐀 ⴀ　㐀　　 ⠀䔀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: "Charles J. Cohen" <charles at eecs.umich.edu>
਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Inkle Weaving
਀ഊ>From a friend of mine - Midair
਀ഊFrom: TLBougher at aol.com
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 㠀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㄀㨀㄀㠀㨀㌀㤀 ⴀ　㐀　　 ⠀䔀䐀吀⤀ഊ
਀㰀㰀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 椀渀欀氀攀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀 眀栀椀氀攀 渀漀眀 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀ഊmethods to finish the ends after a piece is removed from the loom.  Currently
਀䤀 愀洀 樀甀猀琀 戀爀愀椀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀爀椀渀最攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀洀 瘀攀爀礀 甀渀栀愀瀀瀀礀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 椀琀 氀漀漀欀猀⸀ഊ Also, if I decide to us it as trim this method will not work.   
਀ഊMacrame is an option for finishing ends when using as a belt.
਀ഊIf the inkle is to be used as trim, there is no need to finish the ends at
਀愀氀氀 ⠀甀渀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀 樀甀猀琀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 瀀爀攀瘀攀渀琀 甀渀爀愀瘀攀氀椀渀最 椀渀 猀琀漀爀愀最攀 ⴀⴀ 椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 挀愀猀攀Ⰰഊyou might just tie the loose warp threads into a knot or run the ends of the
਀眀漀瘀攀渀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 猀攀眀椀渀最 洀愀挀栀椀渀攀⤀⸀ഊ
਀䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 漀瀀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 昀椀渀椀猀栀椀渀最 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀漀瘀攀渀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀漀 挀甀琀 琀栀攀 眀攀昀琀ഊabout a foot from the finished piece. Place a tapestry needle onto the weft
਀愀渀搀 琀栀爀攀愀搀 琀栀攀 眀攀昀琀 戀愀挀欀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 琀栀爀攀攀 瀀椀挀欀猀 漀昀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最⸀ 䐀漀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀ഊat the beginning of the weaving is a good idea as well. This will secure the
਀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 愀渀搀 瀀爀攀瘀攀渀琀 甀渀爀愀瘀攀氀椀渀最⸀ 䤀 氀攀愀爀渀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 琀爀椀挀欀 昀爀漀洀 䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 䄀氀攀砀椀猀⸀ഊEither of us could demonstrate it for you if my explanation is insufficient.
਀ഊAnne Marie de Garmeaulx
਀⠀愀瘀椀搀 椀渀欀氀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀⤀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:50:30 -0400 (EDT)
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀一匀瀀椀攀猀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䤀渀欀氀攀 圀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊ
਀刀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀愀戀氀攀琀眀漀瘀攀渀 戀愀渀搀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 樀甀猀琀 搀漀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 漀昀ഊfraying at the ends.  The weft might loosen for a row or two, but you won't
਀氀漀猀攀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀⸀  䨀甀猀琀 琀甀挀欀椀渀最 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 挀甀琀 攀渀搀猀 愀渀搀 猀攀眀椀渀最 椀琀 愀氀氀 搀漀眀渀ഊwill hold everything nicely.
਀ഊNancy (Ingvild)
਀ഊ
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 㠀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㐀㨀㄀㈀㨀㌀㤀 ⴀ　㐀　　 ⠀䔀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: SNSpies at aol.com
਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Inkle Weaving
਀ഊ<< I have been inkle weaving for a while now and have a question on the
਀ 戀攀猀琀 洀攀琀栀漀搀猀 琀漀 昀椀渀椀猀栀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀猀 愀昀琀攀爀 愀 瀀椀攀挀攀 椀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀⸀  㸀㸀ഊ
਀䤀 挀愀渀 琀攀氀氀 礀漀甀 栀漀眀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 琀愀戀氀攀琀眀漀瘀攀渀 戀愀渀搀猀 栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀氀礀 眀攀爀攀 昀椀渀椀猀栀攀搀Ⰰ 椀昀ഊthat helps.
਀䤀昀 甀猀攀搀 愀猀 戀攀氀琀猀 漀爀 挀椀渀最甀氀甀洀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 氀攀昀琀 昀爀椀渀最攀搀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 眀椀琀栀ഊanother small band across the end to cover the space where the weaving ends
਀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 昀爀椀渀最攀 戀攀最椀渀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 眀愀爀瀀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 欀渀漀琀琀攀搀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀ഊtasseled.  I actually don't remember seeing any braided bands, but then I've
਀漀渀氀礀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 氀漀漀欀攀搀 愀琀 琀愀戀氀攀琀眀漀瘀攀渀 戀愀渀搀猀⸀  䤀昀 猀攀眀渀 琀漀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 琀攀砀琀椀氀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀ഊthe ends were turned under and the whole band sewn down.
਀ഊNancy (Ingvild)
਀ഊ
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ 㤀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 　㜀㨀㈀㔀㨀㈀㜀 ⬀　㤀㌀　ഊFrom: "Melinda Shoop" <mediknit at nwinfo.net>
਀吀漀㨀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: Inkle Weaving
਀ഊGreeting, good lady!  I was browsing last night on the web and found a site
਀眀栀椀挀栀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀猀 ⠀愀渀搀 栀愀猀 愀 瀀栀漀琀漀 漀昀⤀ 愀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 漀昀 昀椀渀椀猀栀椀渀最 攀渀搀猀 漀昀ഊtablet and inkle weaving with small beads.  the site is
਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀洀琀猀甀⸀攀搀甀⸀欀最爀攀最最⼀匀䌀䄀⼀挀愀爀搀猀⼀昀椀渀椀猀栀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊI hope this helps.
਀ഊ
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀　㨀㈀㔀㨀㌀㐀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: caroline at netusa1.net (mystarwin/Moira)
਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Warp Dress for fine singles wool
਀ഊ>One of the things that's obvious, to my eye, when looking at photographs
਀㸀漀昀 洀椀最爀愀琀椀漀渀 攀爀愀 眀漀漀氀 昀愀戀爀椀挀猀 ⠀甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 愀 昀漀甀爀ⴀ栀愀爀渀攀猀猀 琀眀椀氀氀 琀礀瀀攀 眀漀瘀攀渀ഊ>from singles), is the quality and evenness of the spinning. The person
਀㸀眀栀漀 猀瀀甀渀 琀栀攀 眀漀漀氀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀攀渀琀氀礀 欀渀攀眀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 爀攀猀甀氀琀 眀愀猀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 戀攀ഊ>and selected her wool accordingly for the cloth she had in mind. The
਀㸀眀漀漀氀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀渀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 愀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀攀渀挀礀 䤀Ⰰ 愀猀 愀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 渀攀眀 猀瀀椀渀渀攀爀Ⰰഊ>can at this point only envy.
਀ഊ>ciorstan
਀㸀⠀眀栀漀 栀愀猀 栀愀搀 琀漀 爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀眀攀氀瘀攀 猀攀氀瘀攀搀最攀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 椀渀 栀攀爀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀ഊ>project due to shredding from the reed-- and will try the beeswax trick
਀㸀猀甀最最攀猀琀攀搀 眀栀攀渀 猀栀攀 最攀琀猀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀洀 琀漀洀漀爀爀漀眀 洀漀爀渀椀渀最⤀ഊ
਀吀栀攀 戀攀攀猀眀愀砀 搀漀攀猀 眀漀爀欀⸀⸀⸀⸀ 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 琀爀礀 琀愀欀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀 瘀攀爀礀 昀椀渀攀 ⠀　　　　⤀ 猀琀攀攀氀ഊwool to the reed, and then waxing it....  my reed needs replacing, it's too
਀爀甀猀琀礀 琀漀 甀猀攀 爀椀最栀琀 渀漀眀⸀⸀⸀ഊ
਀䴀漀椀爀愀 䈀爀攀愀戀愀搀愀椀爀Ⰰ 䴀漀䄀匀ഊShire of Narrental
਀ഊ
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 　㤀㨀　㄀㨀㌀　 ⴀ　㠀　　 ⠀倀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: Catherine Harper <tylik at eskimo.com>
਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Warp Dress for fine singles wool
਀ഊA bit ago I experimented with using flax seed lotion to shore up some hand
਀猀瀀甀渀 猀椀渀最氀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀爀攀渀✀琀 焀甀椀琀攀 栀漀氀搀椀渀最 甀瀀 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀攀愀琀椀渀最 䤀 眀愀猀 瀀甀琀琀椀渀最ഊthem through.  It seemed to work fairly well.  (No, I don't know if this
਀椀猀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 ⴀⴀ 䤀 樀甀猀琀 栀愀搀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 昀氀愀砀 猀攀攀搀猀 漀渀 栀愀渀搀⸀⤀ഊ
਀吀漀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 昀氀愀砀 猀攀攀搀 氀漀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 瀀甀琀 琀眀漀 琀愀戀氀攀猀瀀漀漀渀猀 漀昀 昀氀愀砀 猀攀攀搀猀 椀渀 愀 挀甀瀀 漀昀ഊwater, and simmer until about the consistency of egg whites.  You can
਀愀瀀瀀氀礀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 猀瀀漀渀最攀 ⴀⴀ 漀爀 攀瘀攀渀 猀瀀椀渀 椀琀 椀渀⸀  ⠀䤀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 甀猀攀 椀琀 眀栀攀渀ഊspinning flax, mostly because it was a little easier on my hands.)  It
਀眀愀猀栀攀猀 爀椀最栀琀 漀甀琀⸀ഊ
਀                                䌀愀琀栀攀爀椀渀攀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:23:45 GMT
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀洀礀 愀琀 昀瀀⸀挀漀⸀渀稀 ⠀䴀愀最最椀攀⸀䴀甀氀瘀愀渀攀礀⤀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 圀愀爀瀀 䐀爀攀猀猀 昀漀爀 昀椀渀攀 猀椀渀最氀攀猀 眀漀漀氀ഊ
਀㸀䄀 戀椀琀 愀最漀 䤀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 甀猀椀渀最 昀氀愀砀 猀攀攀搀 氀漀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 猀栀漀爀攀 甀瀀 猀漀洀攀 栀愀渀搀ഊ>spun singles that weren't quite holding up to the beating I was putting
਀㸀琀栀攀洀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀⸀  䤀琀 猀攀攀洀攀搀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 眀攀氀氀⸀  ⠀一漀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 琀栀椀猀ഊ>is a period method -- I just had a lot of flax seeds on hand.)
਀ഊI've rattled on about this before; but when I translated the article
਀愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 嘀椀戀漀爀最 猀栀椀爀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 愀甀琀栀漀爀 猀瀀攀挀甀氀愀琀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 猀栀攀攀爀 洀愀猀猀 漀昀ഊlinseed found in scandinavian archaeological digs. She suggested
਀⠀瀀甀爀攀氀礀 愀猀 愀渀 愀猀椀搀攀⤀ 琀栀愀琀 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 氀椀渀猀攀攀搀 漀椀氀 眀愀猀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀搀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 愀猀ഊlinen - both for eating and other purposes. Since then I've
਀攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀瀀瀀氀礀椀渀最ഊlinseed oil to the weaving helped no end with the problem of the
਀猀琀椀挀欀礀 猀栀攀搀⸀ 䤀琀 愀氀猀漀 挀栀愀渀最攀搀 琀栀攀 栀愀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 ⴀ 攀瘀攀渀 眀栀攀渀ഊwashed.
਀ഊ/mmy
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਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㌀㨀㔀㈀㨀㌀㐀 ⴀ　㠀　　ഊFrom: Brett and Karen Williams <brettwi at ix.netcom.com>
਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Warp Dress for fine singles wool
਀ഊ>>I made some tartan scarves last year with larger singles and ran into huge
਀㸀㸀瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀愀琀 甀渀琀椀氀 䤀 搀爀攀猀猀攀搀 椀琀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 挀氀甀渀最 琀漀 攀愀挀栀 漀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 挀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀ഊ>>get a good shed-worse than mohair. When I advanced the warp, they would grab
਀㸀㸀攀愀挀栀 漀琀栀攀爀 愀渀搀 瀀甀氀氀 琀栀攀椀爀 渀攀椀最栀戀漀爀猀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 眀爀漀渀最 栀攀搀搀氀攀 攀礀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀渀愀瀀瀀攀搀ഊ>>all over the place, What a mess, had to start over. I'm wanting to avoid the
਀㸀㸀猀愀洀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀⸀ഊ
਀夀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 愀氀猀漀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 挀栀攀挀欀 礀漀甀爀 栀攀搀搀氀攀 瀀漀猀椀琀椀漀渀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀栀愀昀琀猀⸀ 䤀昀ഊthey are out of alignment (i.e., the eyes don't face a consistent
਀搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 猀栀愀昀琀⤀ 琀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 眀椀氀氀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 愀最最爀愀瘀愀琀攀ഊadvancement of the warp by drag. I spent one evening going through 8 x
਀㤀　 猀琀攀攀氀 栀攀搀搀氀攀猀 ⠀漀渀 爀甀猀琀礀 栀攀搀搀氀攀 戀愀爀猀Ⰰ 椀挀欀℀⤀Ⰰ 洀愀爀欀椀渀最 攀瘀攀爀礀 琀攀渀琀栀 漀渀攀ഊwith bright pink for easy counting, and making sure that every last
਀戀氀愀猀琀攀搀 漀渀攀 眀愀猀 昀愀挀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䤀 眀愀猀 琀栀漀爀漀甀最栀氀礀 琀椀爀攀搀 漀昀ഊhaving to count each shaft's heddles for centering every time I
਀琀栀爀攀愀搀攀搀ⴀⴀ 渀漀眀 䤀 漀渀氀礀 栀愀瘀攀 漀渀攀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 琀漀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 ⠀㤀　Ⰰ 攀瘀攀渀琀甀愀氀氀礀 ㄀　　ഊheddles per shaft) and since they're consistently marked by tens, I can
਀挀漀甀渀琀 ✀攀洀 戀礀 瀀椀渀欀 昀氀愀猀栀攀猀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 漀渀攀 戀礀 漀渀攀⸀ഊ
਀挀椀漀爀猀琀愀渀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:52:09 -0700
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀爀攀琀琀 愀渀搀 䬀愀爀攀渀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀 㰀戀爀攀琀琀眀椀 愀琀 椀砀⸀渀攀琀挀漀洀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 吀愀戀氀攀琀 圀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 攀搀最攀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀猀 嬀匀䌀䄀崀ഊ
਀䜀眀攀渀 䴀漀爀猀攀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ*snip*
਀㸀 䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 爀攀愀氀椀稀攀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 洀攀愀渀琀 愀琀 昀椀爀猀琀Ⰰ 甀渀琀椀氀 䤀 爀攀愀搀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 䌀愀渀搀愀挀攀ഊ> Crockett's book a second time. It mentions that tablet weaving was used to
਀㸀 愀琀琀愀挀栀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 昀漀爀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 ⠀渀漀琀 愀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀Ⰰഊ> and don't have the book in front of me...maybe warp-weighted looms?).
਀ഊYes. A common way to prepare a warp for a warp-weighted loom was to
਀攀砀攀挀甀琀攀 愀 琀愀戀氀攀琀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀 戀愀渀搀 眀椀琀栀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 愀渀 攀砀琀攀渀搀攀搀 昀爀椀渀最攀 漀渀 漀渀攀 猀椀搀攀Ⰰഊwhich, voila, magically turned into warp when 'stitched' to the cloth
਀戀攀愀洀 漀昀 愀 眀ⴀ眀 氀漀漀洀Ⰰ 漀爀 椀渀琀攀爀氀漀挀欀 愀 猀甀瀀瀀氀攀洀攀渀琀愀爀礀 眀愀爀瀀 椀渀琀漀 漀渀攀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀ഊthe band's weft as one wove the header/tablet-woven band.
਀ഊIf you can get a hand on Marta Hoffman's "Warp Weighted Loom", there are
਀瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 猀挀愀琀琀攀爀攀搀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 吀攀最氀攀 䘀椀渀搀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀Ⰰ 愀洀漀渀最猀琀 漀琀栀攀爀ഊthings, shows a tablet-woven warp prepared in this fashion. The Tegle
਀眀愀爀瀀 昀椀渀搀 愀瀀瀀愀爀攀渀琀氀礀 眀愀猀 搀攀瀀漀猀椀琀攀搀 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀ഊweaver's next step would have been to attach the band to the top of the
਀氀漀漀洀⸀ 吀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 搀椀瘀椀搀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀眀漀 猀栀攀搀猀 戀礀 琀栀愀琀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀✀猀ഊknot-to-hold-tangled-messes, the overhand.
਀ഊ> I was considering how to add fringes to tablet woven bands when I
਀㸀 ∀爀攀愀氀椀稀攀搀∀ 栀漀眀 琀栀椀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀⸀ 圀栀愀琀 䤀✀洀 挀甀爀椀漀甀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀猀 琀栀椀猀⸀⸀⸀ഊ>
਀㸀 圀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 瀀甀爀瀀漀猀攀 漀昀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 琀爀漀甀戀氀攀 漀昀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 琀愀戀氀攀琀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀ഊ> band just to use it to weave a whole length of cloth? Were these bands
਀㸀 眀漀瘀攀渀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 ⠀猀椀洀瀀氀攀 㴀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 漀爀渀愀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀⤀ 椀渀 漀爀搀攀爀 琀漀 最攀琀 漀渀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀ഊ> weaving, or, would they be decorated in their own right? Was this a
਀㸀 ∀眀攀愀欀渀攀猀猀∀ 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 氀漀漀洀⸀⸀⸀琀栀愀琀 椀琀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 愀 最甀椀搀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀ഊ> warp threads to be strung through?
਀ഊAll of your purposes, except for decorative function-- and that could be
਀搀漀渀攀Ⰰ 琀漀漀Ⰰ 漀渀 瘀攀爀礀 栀椀最栀ⴀ攀渀搀 氀甀砀甀爀礀 挀氀漀琀栀猀 ⠀椀昀 洀攀洀漀爀礀 猀攀爀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 一䔀匀䄀吀 䤀䤀ഊdiscusses a decorated band that was stitched onto a cloth post-weaving).
਀ഊ> If bands of cloth were narrower than they are today, does that mean that
਀㸀 琀栀攀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 眀漀甀氀搀 攀渀搀 甀瀀 愀 瘀攀爀琀椀挀愀氀 氀椀渀攀 猀漀洀攀眀栀攀爀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀㼀 䤀ഊ> assumed even if if was used as edging it would be turned sideways. But,
਀㸀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 欀攀攀瀀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 眀椀搀琀栀猀 漀昀 眀漀瘀攀渀 昀愀戀爀椀挀⸀ 伀爀Ⰰ 眀愀猀 琀栀椀猀 琀栀攀ഊ> type of loom that allowed wider widths?
਀ഊThe tablet-woven header band would be one selvedge; one could also carry
਀愀 瀀愀挀欀 漀昀 挀愀爀搀猀 搀漀眀渀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀 漀渀攀✀猀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀ഊto make firm, long-wearing selveges down the sides of one's cloth, and
਀琀栀攀渀 昀椀渀椀猀栀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 攀搀最攀 戀礀 琀愀戀氀攀琀ⴀ眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 愀挀爀漀猀猀Ⰰ 甀猀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀氀漀琀栀✀猀ഊwarp as tablet-woven weft, and fringing off the short ends of the
਀眀愀爀瀀⼀琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀昀琀 愀琀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀礀 攀渀搀⸀ 吀栀漀爀猀戀攀爀最 倀爀愀挀栀琀洀愀渀琀攀氀 䤀 眀愀猀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀椀猀ഊway.
਀ഊIf I were attempting this on a warp-weighted loom, I'd have each shed on
਀椀琀猀 漀眀渀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 眀攀椀最栀琀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 搀攀挀欀猀 漀昀 挀愀爀搀猀 漀渀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 猀椀搀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀椀爀ഊown weights, too.
਀ഊ> Would they be woven out of the same "thread" the cloth was woven out of
਀㸀 ⠀眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀渀攀渀 戀愀渀搀猀 戀攀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀瀀 最甀椀搀攀 昀漀爀 氀椀渀攀渀 挀氀漀琀栀 愀渀搀 眀漀漀氀 戀愀渀搀猀 琀栀攀ഊ> warp guide for wool cloth)?
਀ഊI think it's safe to say 'yes'.
਀ഊ> I *still* don't have access to "Ancient Danish Textiles" (which apparently
਀㸀 栀愀猀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀 搀攀搀椀挀愀琀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀椀猀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 椀渀昀漀⤀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀ഊ> librarians assure me they put the ILL request through properly this time.
਀㸀 匀漀Ⰰ 愀渀礀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀渀琀椀洀攀℀ഊ
਀䤀 最漀琀 䌀愀氀 匀琀愀琀攀 䘀甀氀氀攀爀琀漀渀✀猀 挀漀瀀礀 漀昀 䠀愀氀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 氀漀挀愀氀 氀椀戀爀愀爀礀 瘀椀愀 䤀䰀䰀ഊday before yesterday. ;) I read it Saturday night for dessert, and I'm
਀戀愀挀欀 昀漀爀 猀渀愀挀欀椀渀最 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀⸀ഊ
਀㸀 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 洀漀爀攀 漀昀 愀 最攀渀攀爀椀挀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀栀愀渀 琀愀戀氀攀琀ⴀ眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 猀攀琀 漀昀ഊ> question, which is why I ask here instead of on CARDS-L. Oh, yes, and I
਀㸀 爀攀愀氀椀稀攀 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 ∀一漀 攀砀琀愀渀琀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀猀 漀昀 挀氀漀琀栀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 㔀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀ഊ> Ireland". I'm speaking more in generalities right now, of when tablet
਀㸀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀渀 椀渀琀攀最爀愀氀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀⸀ 䤀✀洀 猀甀爀攀 椀琀✀猀 琀栀攀ഊ> same the world over, once people understand what I'm trying to ask (unless,
਀㸀 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 䤀匀一✀吀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 樀甀猀琀 愀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀⤀⸀ഊ>
਀㸀 䜀眀攀渀 䴀漀爀猀攀ഊ
਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀氀氀 氀攀愀瘀攀 甀瀀 琀漀 礀漀甀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀爀 氀攀瘀攀氀 漀昀 挀漀洀昀漀爀琀⼀搀椀猀挀漀洀昀漀爀琀ഊwhen faced with an absence of concrete evidence either way. ;) Using
਀琀愀戀氀攀琀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀 栀攀愀搀攀爀 戀愀渀搀猀 眀愀猀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 洀甀挀栀 匀伀倀 昀漀爀 眀愀爀瀀ⴀ眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 氀漀漀洀ഊdressing, and even the two ladies who dressed a warp-weighted loom and
਀眀漀瘀攀 愀 戀氀愀渀欀攀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 戀攀渀攀昀椀琀 漀昀 䴀愀爀琀愀 䠀漀昀昀洀愀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ⠀甀洀⤀ 昀椀昀琀椀攀猀ഊ(from knowledge passed down in generations of their family) used a
਀栀攀愀搀攀爀 戀愀渀搀 洀愀搀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 爀椀最椀搀 栀攀搀搀氀攀⸀ 䤀 挀愀渀 愀猀猀攀爀琀 眀椀琀栀 猀漀洀攀 挀漀渀昀椀搀攀渀挀攀ഊthat starting off a warp-weighted loom textile with some type of narrow
਀戀愀渀搀 愀渀搀 攀砀琀攀渀搀攀搀 昀爀椀渀最攀 琀栀愀琀 琀甀爀渀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 眀愀爀瀀 椀猀 愀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 愀ഊVery Long Time all across northern Europe. I do not know when
਀琀愀戀氀攀琀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀 栀攀愀搀攀爀 戀愀渀搀猀 琀甀爀渀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 栀攀搀搀氀攀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀 戀愀渀搀猀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊearly period textiles are, to my knowledge, made universally with
਀琀愀戀氀攀琀ⴀ眀漀瘀攀渀 栀攀愀搀攀爀猀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 爀椀最椀搀ⴀ栀攀搀搀氀攀 ⠀琀愀戀戀礀⤀ 栀攀愀搀攀爀猀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀✀猀ഊeven an example of a sprang cap made with a tablet-woven band with a
਀眀攀昀琀 昀爀椀渀最攀 琀栀愀琀 琀甀爀渀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀瀀爀愀渀最 戀漀搀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀愀瀀 ⠀䌀爀漀挀欀攀琀琀 栀愀猀 愀ഊreproduction of one towards the back of the book; check out Barber's
਀∀倀爀攀栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀 吀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀∀ 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 昀椀渀搀Ⰰ 瀀氀甀猀 䠀愀氀搀Ⰰ 漀渀挀攀 礀漀甀 氀愀礀ഊhands on it). And, there's a theory out there that the neat looking
਀氀漀渀最椀猀栀 挀愀瀀 琀栀椀渀最椀攀猀 眀椀琀栀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 愀 琀愀猀猀攀氀Ⰰ 猀栀漀眀渀 猀漀 挀漀洀洀漀渀氀礀 漀渀ഊwomen's heads on Greek vases are really sprang.
਀ഊciorstan
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਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䌀愀爀搀 圀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊDate: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:24:45 EST
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀一匀瀀椀攀猀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊTo: stefan at texas.net
਀ഊHello, Stefan.
਀ഊ<<  Could you send me the list again by email?  >>
਀ഊCertainly.  It would be my pleasure.  Actually, I had found one error, so this
਀眀椀氀氀 戀攀 愀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀攀搀 氀椀猀琀⸀  夀漀甀爀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀 猀椀琀攀 椀猀 愀 最漀氀搀洀椀渀攀 漀昀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀ഊstuff, by the way.  I hope that others will enjoy this list of suppliers as
਀洀甀挀栀 愀猀 漀甀爀 琀愀戀氀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀猀 栀愀瘀攀⸀  匀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 椀琀✀猀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 最漀漀搀ഊsources for fine silks or appropriate metallic threads when all you know
਀愀戀漀甀琀 椀猀 䨀漀䄀渀渀猀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀 愀洀 瘀攀爀礀 瀀氀攀愀猀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀⸀  吀栀愀渀欀猀 昀漀爀 愀猀欀椀渀最℀ഊ
਀䤀渀最瘀椀氀搀ഊ
਀    ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊSUGGESTED LIST OF SUPPLIERS
਀ഊ1.  Aurora Silk, 5806 North Vancouver Avenue, Portland, OR  97217  (503)
਀㈀㠀㘀ⴀ㐀㄀㐀㤀 ⴀ  猀椀氀欀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ2.  Beggar's Lace, P.O. Box 481223, Denver, CO 80248  (303) 722-5557
਀氀愀挀攀氀愀搀礀 愀琀 爀洀椀椀⸀挀漀洀 ⴀ 猀椀氀欀Ⰰ 氀椀渀攀渀Ⰰ 挀漀琀琀漀渀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ3.  Bob Patterson, P.O. Box 424, Orinda, CA  94563  (925) 943-5243 - silk,
਀氀椀渀攀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀漀琀琀漀渀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ4.  Books in Transit, 2830 Case Way, Turlock, CA 95382  (209) 632-6984 -
਀漀甀琀ⴀ漀昀ⴀ瀀爀椀渀琀  戀漀漀欀猀ഊ5.  Carolina Homespun, 190 Eastridge Rd., Ridgeway, VA 24148  (800) 450-7786
਀栀漀洀攀猀瀀甀渀 愀琀 欀椀洀戀愀渀攀琀⸀挀漀洀 ⴀ 琀愀戀氀攀琀猀Ⰰ 猀栀甀琀琀氀攀猀Ⰰ 戀攀氀琀 琀愀戀氀攀琀ⴀ眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 栀漀氀搀攀爀Ⰰ 氀漀漀洀猀Ⰰ 眀愀爀瀀椀渀最 瀀攀最猀Ⰰ 戀漀漀欀猀ഊ6.  Daisy Chain, P.O. Box 1258, Parkersburg, WV 26102  (304) 428-9500 -
਀猀椀氀欀Ⰰ 洀攀琀愀氀氀椀挀Ⰰ 爀攀愀氀 最漀氀搀 愀渀搀 猀椀氀瘀攀爀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ7.  Earth Guild, 33 Haywood Street, Asheville, NC 28801  (800) 327-8448
਀椀渀昀漀爀洀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀最甀椀氀搀⸀挀漀洀 漀爀        挀愀琀愀氀漀最⸀攀愀爀琀栀最甀椀氀搀⸀挀漀洀 ⴀ 猀焀甀愀爀攀 挀愀爀搀戀漀愀爀搀ഊtablets, belt shuttles, books, linen, cotton, and wool threads
਀㠀⸀  䘀椀戀攀爀 䠀甀琀Ⰰ ㈀㌀㄀㘀 䌀爀攀猀琀眀漀漀搀 刀搀⸀Ⰰ 匀䔀Ⰰ 䌀愀氀最愀爀礀Ⰰ 䄀氀戀攀爀琀愀 吀㈀䌀 　䌀㘀 䌀愀渀愀搀愀ഊ(403) 279-2658 - square cardboard tablets, books, silk, linen, cotton, and wool threads
਀㤀⸀  䘀椀戀爀攀挀爀愀昀琀猀Ⰰ 匀琀礀氀攀 䌀漀琀琀愀最攀Ⰰ 䰀漀眀攀爀 䔀愀猀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 䜀漀搀愀氀洀椀渀最Ⰰ 匀甀爀爀攀礀 䜀唀㜀 ㈀儀䐀ഊEngland (48) 342-1853) - square cardboard tablets, warping pegs with clamps, shuttles, books
਀㄀　⸀  䠀愀氀挀礀漀渀 夀愀爀渀猀Ⰰ ㄀㈀ 匀挀栀漀漀氀 匀琀爀攀攀琀Ⰰ 䈀愀琀栀Ⰰ 䴀䔀 　㐀㔀㌀　  ⠀㠀　　⤀ ㌀㐀㄀ⴀ　㈀㠀㈀ ⴀഊsquare cardboard tablets, warping pegs, books, silk, linen, cotton, wool, and metallic threads
਀㄀㄀⸀  䠀愀渀搀眀攀愀瘀攀爀猀 匀琀甀搀椀漀 愀渀搀 䜀愀氀氀攀爀礀Ⰰ ㈀㤀 䠀愀爀漀氀搀猀琀漀渀攀 刀漀愀搀Ⰰ 䰀漀渀搀漀渀 䔀㄀㜀 㜀䄀一ഊEngland  (81) 521-2281 - square and     hexagonal cardboard tablets, warping
਀瀀攀最猀 眀椀琀栀 挀氀愀洀瀀猀Ⰰ 猀栀甀琀琀氀攀猀Ⰰ 猀椀氀欀Ⰰ 氀椀渀攀渀Ⰰ 挀漀琀琀漀渀Ⰰ 眀漀漀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀攀琀愀氀氀椀挀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ12.  Hedgehog Handworks, P.O. Box 45384, Westchester, CA  90045 (888)
਀㘀㜀　ⴀ㘀　㐀　 ⴀ 猀椀氀欀Ⰰ 氀椀渀攀渀Ⰰ 挀漀琀琀漀渀Ⰰ 洀攀琀愀氀氀椀挀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ13.  Linda Hendrickson, 140 SE 39th Avenue, Portland, OR 97214  (503)
਀㈀㌀㤀ⴀ㔀　㄀㘀  氀椀渀搀愀栀攀渀搀爀椀挀欀猀漀渀 愀琀 挀渀渀眀⸀渀攀琀 ⴀ 猀焀甀愀爀攀 挀愀爀搀戀漀愀爀搀 琀愀戀氀攀琀猀Ⰰ 猀栀甀琀琀氀攀猀Ⰰ 欀椀琀猀Ⰰ 戀漀漀欀猀Ⰰ 瘀椀搀攀漀ഊ14. Heritage Looms, Route 6, Box 731-E, Alvin, TX 77511  (409) 925-4161 -
਀琀愀戀氀攀琀漀瀀 氀漀漀洀猀Ⰰ 猀焀甀愀爀攀 挀愀爀搀戀漀愀爀搀 琀愀戀氀攀琀猀ഊ15. Frank Herring & Sons, 27 High West Street, Dorchester, Dorset DT1 1UP
਀䔀渀最氀愀渀搀  ⠀㌀　⤀ 㔀㈀㐀ⴀ㐀㐀㐀㤀 ⴀ 猀焀甀愀爀攀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 琀愀戀氀攀琀猀Ⰰ 眀愀爀瀀椀渀最 瀀攀最猀 眀椀琀栀 挀氀愀洀瀀猀Ⰰ 猀栀甀琀琀氀攀猀ഊ16. Howell's Weaving Emporium, 4832 Salmon Drive, Paradise, CA 95969  (503)
਀㠀㜀㜀ⴀ㐀㔀㌀㤀 ⴀ 琀愀戀氀攀琀漀瀀 氀漀漀洀猀Ⰰ 猀栀甀琀琀氀攀猀ഊ17. Klotz Country Crafts, 908 E. Eloika Rd., Deer Park, WA  99006  (888)
਀㐀㐀㜀ⴀ㜀㘀㜀㔀 ⴀ 挀愀爀搀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀✀猀 猀甀爀昀ⴀ戀漀愀爀搀 氀漀漀洀ഊ18 LACIS, 3163 Adeline Street, Berkeley, CA 94703  (510) 843-7178
਀猀琀愀昀昀 愀琀 氀愀挀椀猀⸀挀漀洀 ⴀ 猀椀氀欀Ⰰ 氀椀渀攀渀Ⰰ 挀漀琀琀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀攀琀愀氀氀椀挀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀Ⰰ 椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 䜀ﰀ琀攀爀洀愀渀渀 猀椀氀欀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀氀漀爀 挀愀爀搀ഊ19 Louët, P.O. Box 267, Ogdensburg, NY 13669  (613) 925-4502 - square wooden
਀琀愀戀氀攀琀猀ഊ20. Laura Morgan, 1633 Stoney Creek Drive, Charlottesville, VA 22902  (804)
਀㤀㠀㐀ⴀ　㔀㌀㜀 ⴀ 栀愀渀搀洀愀搀攀 眀漀漀搀攀渀 琀愀戀氀攀琀猀ഊ21. Needle Arts, Inc., 2211 Monroe, Dearborn, MI 48124  (313) 278-6266 -
਀猀椀氀欀Ⰰ 氀椀渀攀渀Ⰰ 挀漀琀琀漀渀Ⰰ 洀攀琀愀氀氀椀挀Ⰰ 爀攀愀氀 最漀氀搀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ22. Nordic Needle, 1314 Gateway Drive, Fargo, ND 58103  (800) 433-4321
਀渀攀攀搀氀攀 愀琀 挀漀爀瀀挀漀洀洀⸀挀漀洀 ⴀ 猀椀氀欀Ⰰ 挀漀琀琀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀攀琀愀氀氀椀挀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ23. Bob Patterson, P.O. Box 424, Orinda, CA  94563  (925) 943-5243
਀䈀漀戀 愀琀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀栀漀瀀⸀挀漀洀Ⰰ 眀眀眀⸀琀栀爀攀愀搀猀栀漀瀀⸀挀漀洀 ⴀ 猀椀氀欀Ⰰ 氀椀渀攀渀Ⰰ 挀漀琀琀漀渀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ24. Robin and Russ Handweavers, 533 North Adams Street, McMinnville, OR
਀㤀㜀㄀㈀㠀  ⠀㠀　　⤀ 㤀㌀㈀ⴀ㠀㌀㤀㄀   爀漀戀椀渀☀爀甀猀猀 愀琀 漀渀氀椀渀攀洀愀挀⸀挀漀洀 ⴀ 猀焀甀愀爀攀 愀渀搀 栀攀砀愀最漀渀愀氀ഊcardboard tablets. shuttles, books, videos
਀㈀㔀⸀  吀栀攀 匀椀氀欀 吀爀攀攀Ⰰ ㈀　㈀㤀㜀 匀琀愀渀琀漀渀 䄀瘀攀⸀Ⰰ 䴀愀瀀氀攀 刀椀搀最攀Ⰰ 䈀䌀 嘀㈀堀 㤀䄀㔀 䌀愀渀愀搀愀ഊ(604)465-9816  aurum at axionet.com - silk threads
਀㈀㘀⸀ 伀琀昀爀椀攀搀 匀琀愀甀搀椀最攀氀Ⰰ 䠀瀀瀀渀攀爀猀琀爀愀猀猀攀 ㄀　㠀Ⰰ 䐀 ⴀ 㐀㜀㠀　㤀 䬀爀攀昀攀氀搀Ⰰ 䜀攀爀洀愀渀礀 ⴀഊfloor-standing looms
਀㈀㜀⸀ 吀攀砀琀椀氀攀 刀攀瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 䈀漀砀 㐀㠀Ⰰ 圀攀猀琀 䌀栀攀猀琀攀爀昀椀攀氀搀Ⰰ 䴀䄀 　㄀　㠀㐀  ⠀㐀㄀㌀⤀ഊ296-4437  - silk, linen, cotton, and wool  threads (early vegetable dyes used)
਀㈀㠀⸀ 吀栀椀渀最猀 䨀愀瀀愀渀攀猀攀Ⰰ 㤀㠀　㔀 一䔀 ㄀㄀㘀琀栀 匀琀爀攀攀琀Ⰰ 匀甀椀琀攀 㜀㄀㘀　Ⰰ 䬀椀爀欀氀愀渀搀Ⰰ 圀䄀 㤀㠀　㌀㐀ഊ(206) 821-2287 - silk and metallic threads
਀㈀㤀⸀ 吀爀攀攀渀眀愀礀 䌀爀愀昀琀猀Ⰰ 㜀㈀㔀 䌀愀氀攀搀漀渀椀愀 䄀瘀攀渀甀攀Ⰰ 嘀椀挀琀漀爀椀愀Ⰰ 䈀䌀 嘀㠀吀 ㄀䔀㐀 䌀愀渀愀搀愀ഊ(604) 383-1661 treenway at coastnet.com - silk threads
਀㌀　⸀ 唀渀椀挀漀爀渀 䈀漀漀欀猀 愀渀搀 䌀爀愀昀琀猀Ⰰ ㄀㌀㌀㠀 刀漀猀猀 匀琀爀攀攀琀Ⰰ 倀攀琀愀氀甀洀愀Ⰰ 䌀䄀 㤀㐀㤀㔀㐀  ⠀㠀　　⤀ഊ289-9276 - square cardboard tablets, belt shuttles, belt tablet weaving holder, books, videos
਀㌀㄀⸀ 吀栀攀 圀攀愀瘀椀渀最 圀漀爀欀猀Ⰰ 㐀㜀㄀㜀 䈀爀漀漀欀氀礀渀 䄀瘀攀⸀Ⰰ 一䔀Ⰰ 匀攀愀琀琀氀攀Ⰰ 圀䄀 㤀㠀㄀　㔀  ⠀㈀　㘀⤀ഊ524-1221 - square cardboard tablets,    shuttles, warping pegs, belt tablet
਀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 栀漀氀搀攀爀Ⰰ 戀漀漀欀猀Ⰰ 瘀椀搀攀漀猀ഊ32. WEBS, P.O. Box 147, Northampton, MA 01061-0147  (413) 584-2225
਀眀攀戀猀 愀琀 礀愀爀渀⸀挀漀洀 ⴀ 猀椀氀欀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊ33. Yarn Barn, P.O. Box 334, Lawrence, KS 66044  (800) 468-0035 - square
਀挀愀爀搀戀漀愀爀搀 琀愀戀氀攀琀猀Ⰰ 猀栀甀琀琀氀攀猀Ⰰ 眀愀爀瀀椀渀最 瀀攀最猀Ⰰ 戀漀漀欀猀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:23:55 -0400
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䠀漀渀漀甀爀 䠀漀爀渀攀ⴀ䨀愀爀甀欀 㰀栀漀渀漀甀爀 愀琀 戀愀渀攀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊOrganization: Maison Rive Historic Clothing
਀吀漀㨀 䰀椀猀猀愀 䴀挀䌀漀氀氀甀洀 㰀氀椀猀猀愀洀挀 愀琀 瀀爀椀洀攀渀攀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: a question for the weavers
਀ഊLissa McCollum wrote:
਀㸀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀瀀⸀⸀⸀ഊ>
਀㸀 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 倀攀渀搀氀攀琀漀渀 㐀 栀攀搀搀氀攀 㐀　∀ 昀氀漀漀爀 氀漀漀洀 愀琀 愀ഊ> garage sale today, that seems to be in quite good
਀㸀 猀栀愀瀀攀⸀ 䘀漀爀 ␀㈀　 ⠀搀漀渀✀琀 栀甀爀琀 洀攀⤀ 䤀 眀愀猀渀✀琀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀ഊ> pass it up, even though I know next to nothing
਀㸀 ⠀礀攀琀⤀ 愀戀漀甀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最⸀ഊ>
਀㸀 匀漀⸀⸀⸀眀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 最漀漀搀 戀愀猀椀挀 椀渀琀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 琀漀ഊ> weaving texts? And what are some good historical
਀㸀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 洀礀 攀礀攀猀 漀甀琀 昀漀爀㼀ഊ> Are there any web sites I should know about?
਀㸀ഊ> Gwendolen Wold
਀ഊ    Respected friend:
਀    䜀攀琀 愀 挀漀瀀礀 漀昀 开圀愀爀瀀椀渀最 愀氀氀 戀礀 夀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀开Ⰰ 戀礀 䌀愀礀 䜀愀爀爀攀琀琀⸀ഊISBN 0-930670-01-9, it's available from Interweave Press. I have no idea
਀椀昀 琀栀攀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 椀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 搀漀攀猀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀ഊto put a smooth, even-tensioned warp on the loom all alone.
਀ⴀⴀഊHonour Horne-Jaruk
਀䴀愀椀猀漀渀 刀椀瘀攀 䠀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀 䌀氀漀琀栀椀渀最ഊ
਀ഊSubject: ANST - Weavers
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㘀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㌀㨀㐀㠀㨀㄀㄀ 䴀匀吀ഊFrom: "Russell Husted" <husted at hotmail.com>
਀吀漀㨀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ
਀䠀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀 愀戀猀漀氀甀琀攀氀礀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 猀椀琀攀 漀渀 戀攀搀甀椀渀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最⸀ഊhttp://www.beduinweaving.com/toc.htm
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਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 ㌀ 漀昀 ㌀㄀ഊ
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