quilting-msg - 1/21/08 Quilting in period. NOTE: See also the files: Hist-of-Quilt-art, applique-msg, embroidery-msg, sewing-msg, weaving-msg, linen-msg, tapestries-msg, beds-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ From: EPSTEIN at ksuvm.ksu.EDU (Emily Epstein) Date: 3 Mar 91 16:40:00 GMT Greetings unto the Fishers of the Rialto from Alix Mont de fer. While I claim no great expertise in the subject, I attended a series of quilting classes in the Crown Province of Ostgardr some years ago, taught by the Vicereine Katherine. As I recall, the main points she made were: 1) Quilting is period. 2) The geometric and pictorial patchwork and applique quilting we see at state fairs began in America and crossed the Atlantic back to Europe well after period. 3) Crazy quilts were popular in period. 4) The most common quilt design was a single ground color, with the design formed by the quilting itself, worked in different colored threads. (I did a pillow cover like this for the class-- it's a very pretty effect) Apparently the legend of Tristan and Yseult was a popular theme for quilts of this sort. (Appropriate theme for a bedspread, no?) If I've misstated anything, the fault is with my memory, and I apologise. Her Excellency had some wonderful books on quilting, but I'm distressed to say that I've lost my notes with the bibliography. If anyone from Ostgardr could get a list of the relevant books from her and post it on the Rialto (along with any comments she'd care to make), I'd be most grateful. In service, <=========> Alix Mont de fer |=======| (Emily Epstein) |* * * *| Shire of Spinning Winds XXXXXXX (Manhattan, KS) VVVVV YYY epstein at ksuvm.ksu.edu | ||| XXXXXXX From: Caitlin.Nic.Raighne at f350.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Caitlin Nic Raighne) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Quilting Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 21:55:00 -0500 jj> Many years back at a UWEKAT (Univ. of Western East Kingdom at Thescorre) jj> I attended a class suggesting some period possibilities for quilting. jj> Never saw any definitive documentation but maybe you could jj> follow it up. I don't know what sources your class used but I have been researching quilting pre-1600 for a little over a year. I am very close to having a research paper ready for the upcoming A&S competition here in Calontir next February. It is approximately 60 pages. It just broadly touches a lot of the information. I'm seriously considering using it as a jumping off point for a book. I have so many sources I can't get hold of because the books are out of print or in libraries out of state (groan). Our local library really freaks at ILL out of state unless I can do all the work on finding where the books are located. Any body interested in telling me whether they have some of the books I need in their local/ University library? I don't have e-mail capability so if you are interested let me know and I'll snail the list to you. The closer I can get to Kansas obviously the cheaper it will be for me to ILL them. Thanks in advance. Beannachd leibh, Caitlin nic Raighne Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: tnez3 at isuvax.iastate.edu (april ammons) Subject: Re: Quilting Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 14:41:17 GMT I have also recently looked at a book titled "Embroiders" by Kay Staniland that shows photos of both applique and trapunto quilts from period. Fiammetta Attavanti From: pp003060 at interramp.com (Laurie Brandt) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Period Quilting? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:33:17 -0500 Organization: the Polyhedron Group dahense at aol.com (DAHense) wrote: > >Could you share your info on period quilting? Is there a fee? > >Rosalyn MacGregor of Glen Orchy > >Pattie Rayl of Cynnabar > > Pattie,Rosalyn, I need your e-mail addresses. I will give you what > information I can via e-mail, and if you want the entire handout- it will > cost me $3.25 to mail it first class. That is what i would request from > you. > > I don't have a full-time job right now, or I wouldn't even ask for that. > > Kateryn de Develyn (Calontir) Add me to your list. There is an exapmle in Alcega Tailors Pattern book of ca. 1589, a war banner of taffeta done in nine patch with an applique. -- Laurie E. W. Brandt|aka Her Ladyship, Pegasus Devona, A.o.A., G.d's. 5814 Gloucester Ln.| Barony of Bryn Gwlad, Kingdom of Ansteorra Austin, Tx 78723 |Gules, a pegasus rampent within a bourder argent. |Society for Creative Anachronism Membership #04720 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Carol at Small Churl Books To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Welch embroidered coverletts] >I am in the process of make a Welch Coverlett (quilt circa 1300 or >so)for my recreationist society and need to know what subjects were >embroidered on the quilt top. I know that the coverletts were seldom >pieced, because the Welch quliters took pride in being able to afford >fine cloth for their works. So large blocks of embroidey were used >instid. Can any one help me? > Lady Katherine Malvernen McGuire The only quilt that I have seen pictures of is (I think) Italian 15th c. It has scenes from the story of Tristan and Isolde, with brief captions. I have been told that it was done in back stitch, not the usual running quilting stitch. The story was set up like a Sunday cartoon, but with more blocks. If you took scenes from King Arthur stories, drew them very simply, and set them between barley sugar (like a braid of two rather than three) or within arcades, I think you would have something very lovely. (This is not the Society for Compulsive Authenticity, but I like to do things reasonably based on period sources.) This, of course, is a quilt. If you are thinking of colored embroidery on a coverlet, I do not know of an example that would be helpful. There are wonderful huge hangings with animals, real and fictional, done in pattern darning, and further ornamented with cross stitch designs on the borders, done all over northern europe in the 14th and 15th century. They would be the right size. I do not know if they were used other than on hangings. So many articles that got used did not survive, so a lot of our extant pieces are less "practical", like church hangings. Lady Carllein Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 16:14:55 -0700 From: Lady Catherine Mcgire To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Welch embroidered coverletts] Carol at Small Churl Books wrote: > >I am in the process of make a Welch Coverlett (quilt circa 1300 or > >so)for my recreationist society and need to know what subjects were > >embroidered on the quilt top. I know that the coverletts were seldom > >pieced, because the Welch quliters took pride in being able to afford > >fine cloth for their works. So large blocks of embroidey were used > >instid. Can any one help me? > > Lady Katherine Malvernen McGuire > > The only quilt that I have seen pictures of is (I think) Italian 15th c. It > has scenes from the story of Tristan and Isolde, with brief captions. Thank you for you help, my Lady. The King Author theme sounds like a good source. I was thinking of using unicorns in various poses, embroidered in dark blue wool on the quilt top, which is natural linen, with dark blue thread running vertically through the weave. The bottom is of dark blue 100% wool flannel. Then I was planning to stich the quilt using back stich with a soft lavender color linen thread usin a pattern of celtic designs I found in an article in "Threads" Oct/Nov. 1991 on Early Celtic quilts. My other sources (for Morgan) were the Encyclopedia Britannia Vol 18 published 1968, "Needle Work Through The Ages" Encyclopedia Britannica Supplment pub. 1949 "Historical Costume for the Theather" by Lucy Barton, and "Historical Quilts, The British Iles" (found in the reference section of the Public Liberary.) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:59:05 -0800 From: Chris Laning To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Welsh embroidered coverlets [WAS: Welch embroidered...] I forwarded this question to Heather Rose Jones (Mistress Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn), who probably knows more about things Welsh than anyone else in the SCA. Here are her comments; this may or may not be the kind of information you were looking for. >> >Subject: Welch embroidered coverletts >> > >> >I am in the process of make a Welch Coverlett (quilt circa 1300 or >> >so)for my recreationist society and need to know what subjects were >> >embroidered on the quilt top. I know that the coverletts were seldom >> >pieced, because the Welch quliters took pride in being able to afford >> >fine cloth for their works. So large blocks of embroidey were used >> >instid. Can any one help me? >> > Lady Katherine Malvernen McGuire > >The first thing to know is the details and context of where you got the >information you already have. > >Coverlets certainly existed in medieval Wales. The Geiriadur Prifysgol >Cymru gives 14th century examples of the use of the borrowed word >"cwrlid" (coverlet) by poets such as Dafydd ap Gwilym ("Ac uwch dy >ben, fedwen fau; Gaer loywdeg o gwrlidau" -- "and over your head, >o May-birch; the bright fortress of a coverlet"; hey, Dafydd ap Gwilym >isn't an _easy_ poet!) and Iolo Goch ("Cysgu ar blu neu bliant; A llennau, >cylchedau, cant; Ymysg o gwrlidau mil; A'r porffor drud o'r pwrffil." >-- "Sleeping on feathers or _bliant_ [type of cloth]; and sheets, covers, >a hundred; among a thousand coverlets; and the expensive purple of >the hems.") > >The synonym "cylched" appearing in the second quote is significantly >older, appearing as early as the 9th century as a gloss for Latin "velum" >(sheet, among other things). The following uses appear up through the 14th >century, but none of them makes any description of the coverlet being >decorated in any fashion. > >13th c. "ygkylchet ym perued rwg deullin teyrned." (in a coverlet in the >middle between the knees of princes -- I have _no_ idea what the context >is here) >13th c. "Athrychant gwely o eur ac aryant acheymeint arall o >gylchedeu achlustogeu." (And three hundred beds of gold and silver, and >sufficient otherwise of coverlets and pillows -- this is from a romance, >so the "gold and silver beds" shouldn't be taken literally!) >14th c. "pan gysco pawb ar gylchet ... Kynn bu vygkylchet croen gauyr >galet" (when everyone would sleep on a coverlet ... though my coverlet was >a hard goat's skin) > >I have never found any suggestion that physical evidence of such an item >survives from the 14th century -- I'd be very interested to know if it >does! On the other hand, I believe it is possible to find references from >around >the 14-15th century of English embroidered bed furniture, and while most >of the embroidery surviving from this period is ecclesiastic, a source >such as Mrs. Christie's "English Medieval Embroidery" would be a good >place to start for ideas about techniques and motifs. The book "Fashion in >the Age of the Black Prince" by Stella Mary Newton (Boydell Press, 1980) >contains a great many quotes from 14th century wardrobe accounts, >describing the materials and motifs being used in embroidery on secular >items. When I looked at the book, I was looking for references to clothing >specifically, so I can't say whether there would be information on >embroidered bed furniture specifically, but I wouldn't be surprised. > >The English court, however, is a bit of a far cry from Wales, particularly >the average Welsh household (as opposed to the households of great Marcher >lords). The question is how much extrapolation in what directions she's >interested in doing. > >And, by the way, it's "Welsh" not "Welch". "Welch" is a brand of jelly. ----------------------------------- Heather can be reached at . (lady) Christian de Holacombe [SCA] O Chris Laning | + Davis, California Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:09:03 -0800 From: Chris Laning To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Early quilting (long) [WAS: Welsh embroidered coverlets] Good gentles, I did find the article on "Celtic quilts" that Lady Katherine mentions. It's in _Threads_, Oct/Nov 1991. (Confusingly, it says "Celtic Quilts" on the spine, but inside the magazine the article is titled "In the Nature of a Curve," which makes it hard to find.) The designs are certainly fine ones, and clearly derived from the many surviving 19th-century whole-cloth quilts from Wales and the north of England that have made this type of design famous. [1] The author, Martha Waterman, is undoubtedly right too when she points out that "extraordinary circular motifs have been left by practically every culture in the world." And she points out (also correctly) that circular and spiral motifs are found carved on standing stones throughout the "Celtic" area, most of which seem to have been done in the Neolithic (New Stone Age) era. To connect these 2500+-year-old designs with those in traditional 19th-century Welsh quilted coverlets, though, is kind of a big leap to make. I don't think we can conclude from just this evidence alone that anything similar was necessarily being made in the medieval period. From what Kay Staniland of the British Museum says about early quilting in her book _Embroiderers_ [2], it sounds rather as though no one knows much about *what* designs were being quilted in the 12th to 15th centuries. Basing motifs for a coverlet on the legend of Arthur certainly sounds to *me* like exactly the kind of thing that might have been done by a medieval stitcher. I have to admit, I'm a bit biased here, since I'm making a small, pseudo-14th century quilted piece of my own right now. But for myself, I try to keep in mind that I'm stretching things a bit beyond what we actually have evidence for, and that my guess as to what a medieval person might have done could be *way* off. Medieval people did some extremely weird things by our standards. Also, something labeled a "coverlet" doesn't necessarily *have* to be quilted. An embroidered coverlet could just be a decorative bed cover, perhaps with a backing attached so the back of the embroidery doesn't show, but not necessarily with anything between. The 14th century quilt Lady Carllein refers to (the "Tristan Quilt" or "Guicciardini Quilt") only has cotton stuffed into the design areas; the background is simply the front and back layers of linen stitched together. Even as late as the 18th century you find from Southern plantations (U.S.A.) bed covers of embroidery or applique that simply have a loose backing and are not quilted or stuffed. At any rate, an embroidered coverlet sounds like a fine project! I'm a little envious of your good materials. They must have been a "find"! * * * * * [1] Martha Waterman also says that there is no book on making Welsh quilts. There isn't one in print as far as I know, but I have a copy of _Quilting: Traditional Methods and Design_ by Mavis FitzRandolph and Florence M. Fletcher, Dryad Press, Leicester [England], 3rd revised edition, 1968 (no ISBN#). The bibliography cites _English Quilting Old and New_ by Elizabeth Hake, Batsford, 1937; _Traditional Quilting_ by Mavis FitzRandolph, Batsford, 1954; and _Notes on Quilting_, published by the Victoria and Albert Museum, H.M. Stationery Office, 1949. These would all be very difficult to find, and also books of this vintage tend to be more than a little vague about *when* things were done, usually just saying, "In old times . . ." by which they can mean anything from 1066 to 1914. [2] _Embroiderers_ in the "Medieval Craftsmen" series; North American edition from the University of Toronto Press, 1991; ISBN# 0-8020-6915-0. This is, IMHO, the best inexpensive source on the history of embroidery I've ever seen. *And* it's still in print, *and* it has color pictures, *and* you can find it for under $25. Kay Staniland certainly gives more information than *I* had ever seen all in one place before. Here's what she says on quilting (p.38-40) ------------------------------------- QUILTING Surviving examples of medieval quilting are exceptionally rare. Raw wool or cotton sandwiched between two pieces of linen had long been used in the creation of protective doublets for wear under chain mail or plate armour. Some stitching was used to keep all layers in place, either vertical or diagonal cross-hatching, and this is frequently indicated in tomb effigies and manuscript illuminations. Garments of this kind were the responsibility of the tailors and linen armourers in major western cities like Paris and London from the thirteenth century at least. The practice possibly originated in the Near East or India but it is not known when more decorative and elaborate quilting came into use in Europe. The mastery of the technique evident in the large Tristan quilt worked in Sicily at the end of the fourteenth century suggests several centuries of evolution. Only small amounts of cotton wool were used in the Tristan quilt, in the "stuffed quilting' technique where the cotton wool was introduced at the back of the work after the decorative stitching had been carried out. The ground of the work between the motifs was worked with close rows of running stitches in white linen thread, whilst the outlines of the figures, ships and buildings were worked in back-stitch in a brownish thread. A large fragment of a German coverlet of the fifteenth century is made of a much coarser linen worked firmly in back-stitch with stylised animal motifs within octagonal compartments formed by corded quilting, a method whereby a cord of plied cotton thread was introduced after the parallel rows of back- stitches had been worked. This is a very early example of the technique and an equally interesting example of the combination of stuffed and corded quilting." _Embroiderers_ has several photos of the Tristan quilt and one of the later quilt mentioned (which looks rather clumsy by comparison -- the earlier one is quite elegant!). A caption notes that half of the Tristan quilt is in the Victoria and Albert Museum -- that's the half you usually see pictured -- and the other half is in the Museo Nazionale, Florence. If anyone has a literature reference for the Florence half, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Regards, (lady) Christian de Holacombe ____________________________________________________________ O Chris Laning | + Davis, California Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:37:29 -0500 From: Debra Hense To: "'sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu'" Subject: RE: Welsh Embroidered Coverletts - long response In all my researching of quilting in SCA period, I have not found anywhere where the quilt was directly embroidered upon, until the late 16th century with the Portuguese or India quilts. In the 14th and 15th centuries, elaborate, colorful embroidered designs were found on some quilts in england. But the embroideries were always done on a separate piece of cloth and then applicaqueed to the quilt, with the backstitch or quilt running stitch done around the designs. In Japanese Quilts there is a picture of a quilted carpet found on the Koslow expedition, which dates back to the second century, showing figures of animals and spirals. The animal figures are an applique using the backstitch to sew through multiple layers of cloth and padding to show the different types of animal fur. The backstitch here is obviously an intricate part of the overall pattern, being used not only to define the figure, but to differentiate the different fur types and contours of the animals. The outlines of the limbs and the animals themselves is emphasized by the usage of cording. The colors of the threads on the different figures corresponds to the underlying cloth, of which different colors were used to outline the figure's different limbs. The backstitch was more than mere decoration, it was also part of the stitching which held together the multiple layers of the quilt. Even in the 14th C. with the very famous Tristram quilts (of which there are three - One in the Victoria & Albert Museum, one in an Italian Musuem, and one in a private collection.), there is very little evidence to show embroidery done directly onto the quilt material itself. While the principal figures are outlined (using the backstitch as the quilting stitch also) in a brown thread, the lesser figures and words are outlined (using the backstitch as the quilting stitch also) in a lighter colored thread, and the back ground is quilted in the running stitch in a thread that was the same color as the quilt ground. The Tristram quilt in the V&A shows clearly in photos (that I have from the V&A collection) that it was done in three major strips - the center, and the two side or end pieces. With the pieces joined and then the joining covered by the scene divider quilting of either the vines or the clover motifs. Not until the latter part of the 16th century do we see quilts with embroidery done directly upon them. These quilts came to us from India via Portugal. These colchas, use red and blue silk threads to define the patterns on the coverlet. The backstitch is used in combination with the chain stitch, french-knot, and daisy stitch. The pattern is entirely embroidered onto the top layer of fabric. The background stipple stitching, using a thread which matches the underlying fabric, is the stitch used to anchor the top, middle, and bottom layers of the quilt together. Several of these quilts and the thread colors used are clearly shown in Portugal and the East through Embroidery. My recommendations: For a 13th century Welsh quilt - no elaborate patterns were used yet. As far as I have been able to trace quilting patterns, the elaborate, intricate quilting patterns didn't make their way into the north until well into the 14th century. Take the patterns you see in British Quilts for the Welsh and North country and simply them greatly. In the 14th C, it was the cording which was used on the bed-hangings to keep the drafts out. I've looked at a lot paintings from every country for the entire period that the SCA covers. Even in the paintings, the covers shown on the beds are usually plain. Not until very late in period do they begin to show embroideries on them. And those are known to be appliqued to the coverlet and the matching bed-hangings. If you're going to make a quilt - better to make it a whole cloth quilt with no embroideries for earlier period. Mid-period to late period - use appliqued embroideries. Late period - you can embroider elaborate scenes and use colored threads. But you still can't use the satin stitch or other ground covering/hiding stitches. To use those stitches, you must wait until the late 19th or early 20th century. Liddle, Jill and Watanabe, Yuko Japanese Quilts E.P. Dutton NY 1988 ISBN: 0-525-48386-1 Museum National de Arte Aniga, Lisbon Portugal and the East through Embroidery Eastern Press, Inc. New Haven, CT 1981 ISBN: 0-88397-038-4 Harding, Valerie Faces and Figures in Embroidery Branford Company, Newton Centre MASS. 1979 ISBN: 0-8231-4257-4 (contains a closeup scene from the Tristram quilt that shows the actual stitches). One of the best books to read on historical quilting - is Quilting by Averil Colby. Sorry I don't have the rest of the details for you at this moment. This lady really knew her stuff! With photos and personal examination of what she is talking about to back her words up. Kateryn de Develyn writing this 29th day of July from the Barony of Coeur d'Ennui in the Kingdom of Calontir debh at microware.com Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:58:41 -0700 From: Lady Catherine Mcgire To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: quilting Thank you all for the offered help and information. As usual there is a wide difference of opinion as to what is "period". I down loaded and printed out your responses, took them to the University Libarary for a consultation with the Historical Libararian. She in turn called in the Fine Art's Libarian and they put thrir heads togather. The upshot of this conference was that they then placed a call to the Libarian of the Victoria and Albert Museum. After much discussion, the verdic was...Yes there were embroidered Coverletts in Britton( Welsh ones were know to be especially fine. Being sought at Fairs and Markets by the nobility who were not skilled or who sought a gift)at the time(made of whole cloth). Yes these coverletts were sometimes quilted, although the reference to "cotton-wool" being used for the "stuffing" of the quilt puzzled the British reasearcher. Cotton was being imported from the "Holy Land"(Egypt etc..) at the time, but only in the form of already spun yarns(white and dyed with bright colors using Egyptian plant dye sources). Combed wool "bats" were used when "stuffing" was needed. Most embroidered "quilted coverletts were made and used by the nobility for infants and were given as christening gifts, and to gain favor with an overlord or as a jesture of "pledging loyality" to the heir of the Lord vasseled to. This info was the most concrete I have so far recieved. As usual there is a wide spectrum of opinions concering "period" craft work. One good thing. I realy wanted to make a infant sized coverlett anyway (less work). Now I can feel better about being just a little lazy. Lady Katherine Malveren McGuire Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 15:42:56 -0700 (PDT) From: lifitz at wco.com (Lisa Fitzsimmons) To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Queen's Wardrobe Unlocked >Is there anything at all in this book "Queen's Wardrobe Unlocked" that >mentions quilted items in any fashion? Be they quilted caps, quilted >bedcovers, quilted bed hangings, quilted slippers, quilted anything? And >do they have pictures of said items? > >kateryn de Develyn In the book Medieval Craftsmen Embroiderers by Kay Staniland there is a small section on quilting that is quite interesting. Catherine Lorraine Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 18:37:28 -0400 From: "lwperkins" To: Subject: Re: Queen's Wardrobe Unlocked > From: Debra Hense > > Is there anything at all in this book "Queen's Wardrobe Unlocked" that > mentions quilted items in any fashion? Be they quilted caps, quilted > bedcovers, quilted bed hangings, quilted slippers, quilted anything? And > do they have pictures of said items? There aren't any pictures of quilting per se, although there is some raised embroidery that's really spectacular. In the text,( which I have only begun to explore), page 105, where the author discusses gifts made to various people it says: "{for William Shelton foole]... One fetherbedde a bolster: a Coveringe: a peire of Blankettes:two peire of Sheetes: six Shirtes: *two quilted night Cappes* and sixe peire of Showes for the said fole all of our great guarderobe." There may be more references, I just havn't gotten there yet--it's going to take weeks. --Ester du Bois lwperkins at snip.net Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 08:40:50 -0500 From: Debra Hense To: "'sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu'" Subject: Quilting sources I have the following noted as where some great quilting pictures are located: Plates 448 and 450 from the Book of Costume, Davenport, Millia, Crown Publishers, NY 1962 - shows a jack with plates of iron quilted between two folds of canvas and a waffenrock (military skirt) qith quilted gold brocade. A quilted slipper - found in Japanese Quilts, Liddell Jill and Watanabe, Yuko, E.P. Dutton, NY 1988. A large patchwork and applique quilt from Dahlem Sweden. The patchwork is the large squares (in a semi-checkerboard pattern) upon which have been appliqueed designs. From The History of the Patchwork Quilt, von Gwinner, Schnuppe, Schiffer Publishing, LTD. West Chester PA, 1988. A knight shown wearing a stripped and quilted coat. Seefeld Miracle Panel, 1500 West Germany. Also from the History of the Patchwork Quilt. A white cotton coverlet, embroidered in dark bule and red tussah silk. The embroidery is made with a limited number of stitches, chain, backstitch, french-know and daisy. The oriental influence on these portuguese coverlets is clearly visable. The motifs that appear are plant, animal, mixed, anthropomorphic and inanimate. Looking at a black and white photo, you would almost think these were worked in incredibly intricate blackwork patterns. Late 16th century. From Portugal and the East Through Embroidery, Museu national de Arte Antiga, Lisbon, Eastern press Inc, New Haven CT, 1981 German Quilt - late 16th century, it is made of two layers of a coarser linen than the Tristram quilt. It displays stylized animals, worked in stuffed quilting, outlined with linen thread in a back stitch. A flat quilted ground in darning stitch surrounds the upadded animal, bird, and leaf shapes, behind which the backing material has been cut. These motifs are enclosed withing octagonal and diamond compartments. Also from The History of the Patchwork Quilt. A beautifully quilted campaign vest is shown both front and back in color. Found in Japanese Quilting. A coat armor or Jupon of Charles VI of France from the end of the 14th century. Shown in Arms and Armor of the Medieval Knight, Edge, David & Paddock John Miles, Crescent Books, Avenel NJ, 1988. Arming doublet, late 16th century shown in Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight. Heavily padded and quilted arming cap, 1484. Shown in Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight. A good book for just reading about the history of quilting is Quilting, by Averil Colby. Charles Scribner's Sons. NY 1971. Hope this helps some of you. Kateryn de Develyn debh at microware.com Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 02:06:50 -0500 From: Gunnora Hallakarva To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Quilts We had been discussing quilting in period a short while ago, so I offer the following. While looking for something else entirely, I just stumbled across a photograph of one of the medieval quilted bedspreads from Sicily in: Foss, Michael. Chivalry. New York: David McKay Co. 1975. ISBN 0-679-50681-0, pp. 64-65. The quilt appears to be a solid sheet of white or light-colored fabric (the photo is black and white) with the design quilted on it in black thread. The scene shown is a king greeting an armored knight, the knight's man at arms and a couple of musicians, while behind the king are a number of pages and ladies on the walls of a castle looking on. Behind the figures are quilted letters inbetween the various figures which appear to read COMU: LU RRE*MARES:FECHI EAS ALI ENI TR I S TAI NU If there is enough interest, I can scan the picture and stick it on my website where people can get a look at it. Gunnora Hallakarva Herskerinde Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:40:12 -0700 (PDT) From: lifitz at wco.com (Conny Fitzsimmons) To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Quilts >While looking for something else entirely, I just stumbled across a >photograph of one of the medieval quilted bedspreads from Sicily in: > >Foss, Michael. Chivalry. New York: David McKay Co. 1975. ISBN >0-679-50681-0, pp. 64-65. The I believe that this quilt is the Sicilian quilt done in three pieces. It could have been bed coverings or wall hangings . It is not know whether it was supposed to be three pieces or one very large quilt. The scenes on the quilt are from the Legend of Tristam , in his battle with King Languis. The quilts were orginally made as a wedding gift for two of Sicily's aristoracy Pietro di Luigi Guicciande and Laodamia Acciaiuli. The scenes were labeled in quilting, done in the Sicilian dialect. The quilted patterns were worked with back stitch on two layers of heavy, pieced linen. The three pieces were unusual because many of the design figures were stuffed in such a manner as to create a relieve effect similar to other art forms of the time. The outlines of the principal figures were stitched in brown linen thread. The areas between the motifs were worked with close irregular rows of running stitches, in white line thread. Above information taken from the "Historical Perspective of Quilting by Lady Caitlin nic Raighne. There is some information qbout quilting in the Kay Staniland book in the Medieval Craftsman series the Embroiders which is currently in print. A book that is out of print that is good is Quilting by Averil Colby Catherine Lorraine Subject: Re: Quilts and Applique Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:48:30 -0800 (PST) From: Manly Summerfield To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Poster: Manly Summerfield ---Betty & David Eyer wrote: > She asked me to > scout around for references of any sign of quilting in period. I have > seen: quilted armor, monochromatic patterns done in quilting stitches on > late period (1450+) coverlets and table rugs, some applique in Ital. Renn > and Elizabethan times, and some Elizabethan embroidery that is done on a > stuffed and stitched surface in a very narrative style. Am I warm? > Magdalena de Hazebrouck Delurking: In a book I was looking in called Noble Lovers (forgive me I loaned it to someone else and dont remember who wrote it) there were several pictures from the 14th century of an Irish quilt depicting a king and several knights. It appeared to be white and the stitching only in black but it was definetly a quilt. I believe the same quilt is also pictured in Henry McClintocks Old Irish Dress. I know this is only a tidbit but I hope it helps:) Mainly, currently trying the name Murigheal ighen Anloun ui Ogain Falcon Cree Subject: Quilting reference found Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:29:12 -0800 (PST) From: Manly Summerfield To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Poster: Manly Summerfield A few days ago I posted that I had found a quilting reference and erroniously said it might be in the McClintock book. I found the reference, its in a book called Noble Lovers by DDR Owens. The first such picture is a white cloth with black embroidery (Im assuming, the picture isblack and white) there is a floral border and a scene of men bowing to a King, there are building s in the back ground and letters. The caption reads: The Irish king Languis appoints Morholt to lead his army to Cornwall. Morholt holds the glove and mace, symbols of his ambassadorial office. Additional information in the bibliography of the book reads: Morholt appointed head of Irish army. Quilted embroider. Sicilian, c.1395. London, Victoria and Albert Museum There are several other frames depicting a battle between Morholt and Tristan. The ISBN on this book is 0-8]47-7365-6 Library of congress number:75-4303 Hope this helps, sorry I mixed up the books, I got the Irish right in any regard:) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 14:52:21 -0500 From: Carol Thomas To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Period Quilting? >There is a series of books called Medieval Craftsmen, and there is one on >needlecraft, it has period examples of quilts! I don't know where to find >it, except in my father-in law's basement library, but I did get the one on >scribes & illuminators at Estrella at The Green Duck. > >Heloise I got mine, titled Embroiderers Medieval Craftsmen Series, from Poison Pen Press. You could ask Devra if she has any more. Addy: devra at aol.com In general, the quilts I've seen period pictures of are one solid piece of fabric, with the design quilted in. If there are piece-work quilts from that time, I've never seen them. There is a 15th c. Romanian clerical garment with what appears to be a piece-work cross, but there is no indication in the picture I saw that it was quilted. Have you checked Stefan's Florilegium? He must have info on this. Lady Carllein Small Churl Books catalog: http://www.neca.com/~scbooks/ Subject: Re: ANST - Quilting in Period (WAS: Documnetation) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 99 09:12:42 MST From: "Lael Portwood" To: >Piecework appears to be later. Quilting in period was wholecloth or >whitework; the examples I have seen used panels to tell a story, such as >from the Bible or a legend. The figured might be additionally padded for >better relief. I think the extant examples (the ones I remember anyway, >and I think I have photos somewhere) are in Italy. > > ---= Morgan Also, applique in quilting is period. And, one of the oldest forms of quilting is trapunto which is a decorative quilted design in high relief worked through at least two layers of cloth by outlining the design in running cloth padding it from the underside. I believe that piecing is period. I have seen many examples in medieval art of clothing made from many different materials pieced together. Whether they were quilted or not was difficult to tell. Ascelyn Subject: RE: ANST - Quilting in Period (WAS: Documnetation) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 99 09:44:32 MST From: "Decker, Terry D." To: "'ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG'" > >>>> Quilting is definitely period. If by "quilting" you mean > >>>> piecework -- I haven't come across it in period, but I > >>>> haven't gone looking. > > Piecework appears to be later. Quilting in period was wholecloth or > whitework; the examples I have seen used panels to tell a story, such as > from the Bible or a legend. The figured might be additionally padded for > better relief. I think the extant examples (the ones I remember anyway, > and I think I have photos somewhere) are in Italy. > > ---= Morgan Here's a little tidbit to fan the flames: History Tidbits from the Net From: Katherine Subject: Patchwork history discovery The following article was in the Louisville, Ky "Courier-Journal" Sunday, June 19, 1994: PATCHWORK DISCOVRY A missing piece in the puzzle of quilt history has been found, according to a report in the Louisville-based biannual "Quilt Journal". American scholar Janine Janniere, who teaches English at the National Institute if Applied Sciences in Toulouse, France, recently discovered a reference to an early 16th century patchwork banner. It was composed of 8,000 pieces by Philippe de Vigneulies, a draper and hosier in Metz. The discovery stands midway between the first known reference to patchwork quilting in a 13th century French poem and the next, which occurs in the early 18th century in Gulliver's Travels." It is from: http://www.quilt.com/QuiltHistoryPage.html Bear From: nweders at mail.utexas.edu Date: November 3, 2006 11:36:10 AM CST To: bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org Subject: [Bryn-gwlad] more on quilting and patchwork Okay, after a second cup of coffee, I found this. from and article by Colleen R. Callahan, Metropolitan Museum Journal, Vol 19 (1984-1985) pp. 97-141. Article is entitled "A Quilt and Its Pieces." Page 101 fnote 5. "Six existing European whole-cloth quilts and quilted panels from the 14th through 17th centuries are illustrated and discussed in Averil Colby, Quilting (New York, 1971) pls 6, 100, 101, 105, 108, 109; chaps 1, 6, 7." and fnote 6. "There is one early (12th or 13th century) mention of a pieced quilt in a French poem: "The bed was prepared of which the quilt in a French poem: 'The bed was prepared of which the quilt was of a check-board pattern of two sorts of silk cloth, well-made and rich' (quoted in translation by Colby, Patchwork, p. 22. from The Lays of Desire, Graelent, and Melion, ed. E. Margaret grimes). As this appears to be the sole explicitly descriptive reference to a pieced quilt until the 18th century, no conclusions can be drawnfrom it about the early history of pieced quilts." Hope this helps. If I find something else, if anyone is interested remind me and I'll send you the info I find. Clare (the other, other Clare) Edited by Mark S. Harris quilting.msg Page 16 of 16