beadwork-msg - 9/6/09
਀ഊMedieval beadwork on clothing. Bead types. Bead sources.
਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: beads-msg, clothing-msg, sewing-msg, glasswork-msg.
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਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ
਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ
਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ    Mark S. Harris                  AKA:  THLord Stefan li Rous
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਀ഊFrom: hrjones at uclink.berkeley.edu (Heather Rose Jones)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: lace and beads
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㠀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㈀㄀㨀　㄀㨀㈀㈀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: University of California, Berkeley
਀ഊDDuperault (dduperault at aol.com) wrote:
਀㨀      圀栀愀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀㼀 䤀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 戀攀愀搀椀渀最 椀猀 愀 瘀椀挀琀漀爀椀愀渀 椀渀瘀攀渀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ: Anybody got any hard evidence to the contrary?
਀ഊI'm doing a small research project on the subject currently, expect to 
਀猀攀攀 琀栀攀 昀甀氀氀 爀攀猀甀氀琀猀Ⰰ 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 椀渀 愀 䌀漀洀瀀氀攀愀琀 䄀渀愀挀栀爀漀渀椀猀琀Ⰰ 愀渀礀 礀攀愀爀 渀漀眀 ⸀⸀⸀⸀ഊ
਀䌀攀爀琀愀椀渀 琀礀瀀攀猀 漀昀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀 眀攀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 戀漀琀栀 昀漀爀 栀漀甀猀攀栀漀氀搀 椀琀攀洀猀 ഊand to decorate clothing. Some random examples:
਀ഊ"Beadwork" (Shire Publications #57) by Pamela Claburn shows on p.4 some 
਀㄀㈀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 戀攀愀搀攀搀 瀀愀渀攀氀猀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀攀 挀栀甀爀挀栀 瘀攀猀琀洀攀渀琀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 ഊdesigns have a familial similarity to those used at the same time for 
਀伀瀀甀猀 䄀渀最氀椀挀愀渀甀洀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀㬀 琀栀攀 戀攀愀搀猀 愀爀攀 猀攀眀渀 琀漀 愀 瀀愀爀挀栀洀攀渀琀 戀愀挀欀椀渀最 椀渀 ഊrows that follow the lines of the design, similarly to how rows of 
਀猀瀀氀椀琀ⴀ猀琀椀琀挀栀 搀漀 椀渀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀⸀ഊ
਀䄀 洀甀挀栀 氀愀爀最攀爀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 猀愀洀攀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 ⠀愀氀猀漀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀⤀ 挀愀渀 戀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 ഊin "The Art of Embroidery" by Marie Schuette and Sigrid 
਀䴀甀攀氀氀攀爀ⴀ䌀栀爀椀猀琀攀渀猀攀渀 ⠀䰀漀渀搀漀渀㨀 吀栀愀洀攀猀 ☀ 䠀甀搀猀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㘀㐀⤀ 椀渀 瀀氀愀琀攀 嘀䤀䤀䤀⸀ 䠀攀爀攀 ഊagain the beads are sewn onto a parchment backing in lines following the 
਀搀攀猀椀最渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 琀栀攀渀 戀攀椀渀最 猀攀眀渀 漀渀琀漀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 ⠀椀渀 琀栀椀猀 挀愀猀攀Ⰰ 愀渀 愀氀琀愀爀 ഊfrontal). 
਀ഊThis and similar embroidery books will show numerous examples of seed 
਀瀀攀愀爀氀猀 戀攀椀渀最 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 漀甀琀氀椀渀攀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀 搀攀猀椀最渀猀 漀渀 挀氀漀愀欀猀 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 ഊgarments. A set of vestments from the Holy Roman Empire dating to the 
਀㄀㈀琀栀 愀渀搀 攀愀爀氀礀 ㄀㌀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀椀攀猀 ⠀昀椀最甀爀攀猀 㘀㔀ⴀ㜀㄀ 椀渀 琀栀攀 愀戀漀瘀攀 戀漀漀欀⤀ 猀栀漀眀 琀栀攀 ഊfollowing:
਀ഊA dalmatic cuff with a stylized floral motif outlined in seed pearls and 
਀昀椀氀氀攀搀 椀渀 眀椀琀栀 洀椀渀甀琀攀 最漀氀搀 ∀戀甀最氀攀ⴀ戀攀愀搀猀∀Ⰰ 猀攀眀渀 搀漀眀渀 眀椀琀栀 愀 挀漀甀挀栀椀渀最 ഊtechnique. (The beads are about the same size as those in "liquid-silver" 
਀渀攀挀欀氀愀挀攀猀⸀⤀ഊ
਀䌀甀昀昀猀 漀渀 愀渀 愀氀戀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀攀搀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀 瀀椀挀欀椀渀最 漀甀琀 愀 猀琀爀愀瀀眀漀爀欀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀⸀ ⠀吀栀攀 ഊdesign also incorporates gemstones in both bezel and pronged settings.)
਀ഊA pair of gloves with seed pearls used both to outline applied gemstones 
਀愀渀搀 攀渀愀洀攀氀氀攀搀 瀀氀愀焀甀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀攀眀渀 爀愀渀搀漀洀氀礀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 爀攀洀愀椀渀椀渀最 愀爀攀愀⸀ഊ
਀䤀✀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 爀攀昀攀爀渀挀攀猀 琀漀 ㄀㔀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 最漀氀搀猀洀椀琀栀猀 爀攀最甀氀愀琀椀漀渀猀 琀栀愀琀 ഊforbid combining glass beads and semi-precious stones with pearls and 
਀瀀爀攀挀椀漀甀猀 猀琀漀渀攀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀 ⴀⴀ 愀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 最漀漀搀 愀爀最甀洀攀渀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 ഊof the former.
਀ഊMedieval beadwork is fascinating, but it's very different from modern 
਀猀琀礀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀⸀ഊ
਀吀愀渀最眀礀猀琀礀氀 瘀攀爀挀栀 䴀漀爀最愀渀琀 䜀氀愀猀瘀爀礀渀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: rich at birch.ims.disa.mil (Rich Bjorklund)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: lace and beads
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㤀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㘀㨀㈀㔀㨀　　 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Computer Sciences Corp.
਀ഊdduperault at aol.com (DDuperault) says:
਀㸀     䤀 欀渀漀眀 氀愀挀攀 椀猀 ∀氀愀琀攀∀ 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䄀渀礀漀渀攀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀攀渀 愀渀搀 眀栀攀爀攀 ⠀愀渀搀 漀渀ഊ>what) lace was first used in europe?
਀㸀     圀栀愀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀㼀 䤀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 戀攀愀搀椀渀最 椀猀 愀 瘀椀挀琀漀爀椀愀渀 椀渀瘀攀渀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ>Anybody got any hard evidence to the contrary?
਀㸀ഊ>                                                     Avwye
਀ഊThe period export of fresh-water pearls from Scotland to France would
਀愀爀最甀攀 漀琀栀攀爀眀椀猀攀⸀  䤀 愀氀猀漀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 愀渀礀 漀昀 䨀愀渀攀琀 䄀爀渀漀氀搀✀猀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 䔀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀愀渀ഊclothing would show the use of beading in period.  
਀ഊElizabeth I _was_ pre-Victorian last time I checked.  ;-)
਀ഊ-Rich "Bjorn" Bjorklund
਀匀琀漀瘀椀欀Ⰰ 䄀琀氀愀渀琀椀愀 ⼀ 䈀漀眀椀攀Ⰰ 䴀䐀⸀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: BROWNTR.ntrprs at navair.navy.MIL (BROWNTR)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Beading in Period
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀ 䄀甀最 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 　㤀㨀㔀㐀㨀㌀　 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊ
਀搀搀甀瀀攀爀愀甀氀琀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䐀䐀甀瀀攀爀愀甀氀琀⤀ 猀愀礀猀㨀ഊ>     I know lace is "late" period. Anyone know when and where (and on
਀㸀眀栀愀琀⤀ 氀愀挀攀 眀愀猀 昀椀爀猀琀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 攀甀爀漀瀀攀㼀ഊ>     What about beadwork? I suspect beading is a victorian invention.
਀㸀䄀渀礀戀漀搀礀 最漀琀 愀渀礀 栀愀爀搀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀琀爀愀爀礀㼀ഊ>
਀㸀                                                     䄀瘀眀礀攀ഊ
਀   䤀昀 戀礀 戀攀愀搀椀渀最Ⰰ 礀漀甀 洀攀愀渀 瀀椀挀琀漀爀椀愀氀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀 甀猀椀渀最 猀洀愀氀氀ഊglass beads (as opposed to pearls and semi-precious stones), it
਀椀猀 洀漀猀琀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀  䴀礀 愀瀀瀀爀攀渀琀椀挀攀 䰀愀搀礀 䔀氀猀瀀攀琀栀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀ഊgiving a class at Pennsic on "13th Century Beadwork from
਀匀愀砀漀渀礀Ⰰ∀ 㰀戀愀爀攀氀礀 猀甀戀琀氀攀 瀀氀甀最㸀 愀渀搀 眀椀氀氀 猀栀漀眀 瀀栀漀琀漀猀 漀昀 攀砀琀愀渀琀ഊexamples. Pearls (fresh and salt-water) and semi-precious stones
਀眀攀爀攀 愀氀猀漀 甀猀攀搀 戀漀琀栀 琀漀 昀漀爀洀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 愀渀搀 愀猀 攀洀戀攀氀氀椀猀栀洀攀渀琀⸀ഊ   The case for beadwork *weaving* in the SCA period is on much
਀猀栀愀欀椀攀爀 最爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 愀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 椀爀椀搀攀猀挀攀渀琀 戀攀愀搀猀 琀漀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀ഊcute li'l dragons and pudgy unicorns.
਀   䈀樀漀爀渀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 椀琀 ⠀䠀椀 䈀䨀℀⤀ 戀甀琀 栀椀猀 眀椀昀攀 䰀愀搀礀 吀栀攀爀愀猀愀 椀猀ഊdownright scary with pearls and beads!  (How many *thousands* of
਀猀琀漀渀攀猀 搀椀搀 猀栀攀 瀀甀琀 漀渀 琀栀愀琀 戀氀愀挀欀 最漀眀渀㼀℀⤀ഊ
਀ⴀⴀ 䄀甀渀琀椀攀 匀椀最渀礀ഊhome: AuntieS at aol.com   ofc: BROWNTR.NTRPRS at NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL
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਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 栀愀戀甀爀愀 愀琀 瘀挀挀渀眀　㄀⸀椀琀猀⸀爀瀀椀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䄀渀搀爀攀愀 䴀愀爀椀攀 䠀愀戀甀爀愀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 氀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 戀攀愀搀猀ഊDate: 28 Jul 1994 16:06:17 GMT
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 刀攀渀猀猀攀氀愀攀爀 倀漀氀礀琀攀挀栀渀椀挀 䤀渀猀琀椀琀甀琀攀Ⰰ 吀爀漀礀 一夀ഊ
਀䄀瘀眀礀攀 愀猀欀猀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀猀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 戀攀愀搀椀渀最 椀渀 倀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ഊ
਀夀漀甀 戀攀琀 礀漀甀爀 戀甀琀琀漀渀猀 䤀 搀漀℀ 䴀甀挀栀 搀攀瀀攀渀搀猀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 漀渀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 ഊyou're targeting. I'll discuss my area of expertise, which is England and
਀䘀爀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ ㄀㌀琀栀 愀渀搀 ㄀㐀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀椀攀猀⸀ഊ
਀倀攀愀爀氀猀㨀 䄀 戀椀最最椀攀⸀ 夀漀甀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀Ⰰ 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 ㄀㐀琀栀 挀⸀ 栀椀最栀ⴀ昀愀猀栀椀漀渀 挀氀漀琀栀椀渀最 眀愀猀ഊheavily embroidered, and the job definition of "embroiderer" was basically
਀∀瀀攀爀猀漀渀 眀栀漀 猀攀眀猀 漀爀渀愀洀攀渀琀 漀渀琀漀 昀愀戀爀椀挀∀⸀ 䰀愀爀最攀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀 眀攀爀攀 椀渀挀漀爀瀀漀爀愀琀攀搀ഊinto designs, frequently as something like the acorns of embroidered 
਀漀愀欀猀⸀ ⠀䈀氀愀渀挀栀攀 漀昀 䌀愀猀琀椀氀攀 栀愀搀 愀渀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀攀搀 栀愀琀 眀椀琀栀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 漀昀 挀栀椀氀搀爀攀渀ഊbeating down pearl acorns from trees, with gold boars eating the acorns.)
਀匀洀愀氀氀攀爀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀 眀攀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 漀甀琀氀椀渀椀渀最 氀愀爀最攀 洀漀琀椀昀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀氀猀漀 眀攀爀攀 猀攀眀渀ഊdown over loose-stitched white silk grounds to make things like griffins
਀愀渀搀 攀猀琀漀椀氀攀猀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 瀀氀愀渀 琀漀 搀漀 琀栀椀猀Ⰰ 甀猀攀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀 眀椀琀栀 愀 洀愀砀椀洀甀洀 猀椀稀攀 漀昀ഊabout 2.5 mm; I did an estoile with pearls this size, and at 2" in height,
਀椀琀✀猀 樀甀猀琀 戀愀爀攀氀礀 愀甀琀栀攀渀琀椀挀ⴀ氀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀ 䴀愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀甀爀瘀椀瘀椀渀最 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀猀 猀栀漀眀ഊpearls the size of seed-beads. (In fact, I'm resorting to glass pearlized
਀猀攀攀搀ⴀ戀攀愀搀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀 愀瀀瀀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 挀愀渀 漀渀氀礀 昀椀渀搀 愀爀琀椀昀椀挀椀愀氀 ഊ"pearls" is sizes >2 mm.)
਀ഊOther beads, gems, and findings: If you consider sewing metal ornaments
਀琀漀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 ∀戀攀愀搀椀渀最∀Ⰰ 戀漀礀Ⰰ 愀爀攀 礀漀甀 椀渀 氀甀挀欀℀ 一漀琀 漀渀氀礀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 椀渀 ഊan astounding variety of shapes (I can document mussel shells, acorns,
਀猀琀愀爀猀Ⰰ 挀椀爀挀甀氀愀爀 瀀氀愀琀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 瀀漀爀琀爀愀椀琀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 氀攀愀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀漀 漀渀⤀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀✀爀攀ഊalso available in fine craft stores everywhere. They're pricey, though; 
਀琀栀攀 挀栀攀愀瀀攀猀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀洀 椀猀 ㈀　 挀攀渀琀猀 攀愀挀栀ⴀⴀ愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 ഊto cover an entire garment. Glass discs were sometimes used for the eyes 
਀漀昀 戀攀愀猀琀猀⸀ 䔀渀愀洀攀氀攀搀 漀爀渀愀洀攀渀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 愀猀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀 琀漀漀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀攀琀ഊoff by gold embroidery. (Philippa of Hainault had a "ghita" of this type.)
਀ഊOK, I'll stop here---this could become a five-page post if I let myself go. 
਀䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀 琀栀椀猀 昀甀爀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 攀洀愀椀氀 洀攀Ⰰ 漀爀 猀琀漀瀀 戀礀ഊmy class at Pennsic.
਀ഊAlison MacDermot
਀⨀䔀砀 唀渀最甀攀 䰀攀漀渀攀洀⨀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: 0003900943 at mcimail.COM (Marla Lecin)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: [GARB] Beaded mottos on sleeves?
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㄀ 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀　㨀㌀㘀㨀㄀㜀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊOrganization: The Internet
਀ഊGreetings, from Jessa d' Avondale! 
਀ഊSeveral years ago, some good lady posted a query for information on the
਀愀瀀瀀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀 漀昀 戀攀愀搀攀搀 洀漀琀琀漀攀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀甀昀昀猀 漀昀 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀 刀攀渀 猀氀攀攀瘀攀猀⸀ ഊ
਀一漀 爀攀瀀氀礀 眀愀猀 攀瘀攀爀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 刀椀愀氀琀漀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀Ⰰ 琀漀漀Ⰰ 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀ഊthis information.  The specific portrait which she referred to was " Lady at
਀愀 圀椀渀搀漀眀∀Ⰰ 戀礀 䘀爀愀 䘀椀氀椀瀀瀀漀 䰀椀瀀瀀椀 ⠀挀椀爀挀愀 ㄀㐀㔀　⤀⸀ ⠀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 洀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 刀攀渀ഊportrait of all, and I particularly enjoy visiting with "her" in the Met in
਀一夀䌀℀⤀ ഊ
਀䤀 搀漀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 栀愀渀搀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀 瀀漀猀琀攀爀 猀琀椀氀氀 愀爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 漀爀ഊdoes anyone else have information on this particular practice? 
਀ഊMany thanks, 
਀ഊJessa 
਀洀氀攀挀椀渀 愀琀 洀挀椀挀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀 ഊ
਀ഊFrom: Sharon Saroff <sindara at moose.erie.net>
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: info on jewelry,beadw
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 䴀愀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㔀 ㄀㜀㨀㌀㤀㨀㔀　 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊOrganization: ErieNet
਀ഊTo all who wish a copy of my beadwork resource list:
਀ഊThe list is available for copy cost (about 60 cents) and a SASE (be 
਀猀甀爀攀 琀漀 猀攀渀搀 愀渀 㠀 ㄀⼀㈀ 戀礀 ㄀㄀ 洀愀渀椀氀愀 攀渀瘀攀氀漀瀀攀⤀⸀  䄀琀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 ഊ200 references on the list and growing. (I have to update it again 
਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 洀漀爀攀 爀攀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀⤀  匀攀渀搀 琀漀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 戀攀氀漀眀 椀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 ഊthe list.
਀ഊIf you wish resources for specific information, I will be more than happy 
਀琀漀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 琀栀漀猀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀 琀椀琀氀攀猀⸀  䨀甀猀琀 攀ⴀ洀愀椀氀 洀攀 愀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 愀琀 ഊSindara at moose.erie.net.  I read my mail daily.
਀ഊSend all postal snail correspondences to:
਀ऀ匀栀愀爀漀渀 刀⸀ 匀愀爀漀昀昀ഊ	239 Scott Street, 1st floor
਀ऀ䔀爀椀攀Ⰰ 倀䄀⸀ ㄀㘀㔀　㠀ഊ
਀䤀渀 匀攀爀瘀椀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䐀爀攀愀洀ⰀഊSindara
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 栀愀戀甀爀愀 愀琀 瘀挀挀渀眀　㐀⸀椀琀猀⸀爀瀀椀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䄀渀搀爀攀愀 䴀愀爀椀攀 䠀愀戀甀爀愀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 渀攀攀搀氀攀 瀀甀渀挀栀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀ഊDate: 20 Jul 1995 13:48:54 GMT
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 刀攀渀猀猀攀氀愀攀爀 倀漀氀礀琀攀挀栀渀椀挀 䤀渀猀琀椀琀甀琀攀ഊ
਀䘀漀爀 䔀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀㨀 䤀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 礀漀甀 愀 栀愀瀀瀀礀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊmind using tiny pearls instead of seed beads, there's a considerable
਀愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 搀攀猀椀最渀猀 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 戀攀愀搀猀 漀渀 挀氀漀琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊ
਀倀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 愀挀挀攀猀猀椀戀氀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 ∀䌀栀椀挀栀攀猀琀攀爀∀ 漀爀 ∀䈀甀琀氀攀爀ⴀ䈀漀眀搀攀渀∀ഊcope, a 14th c. English work. There's a color photo of it in Staniland's
਀开䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䌀爀愀昀琀猀洀攀渀㨀 吀栀攀 䔀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀攀爀猀开Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 戀氀愀挀欀ⴀ愀渀搀ⴀഊwhite closeup in Christie's _English Medieval Embroidery_. (I can get 
਀攀砀愀挀琀 瀀愀最攀 挀椀琀攀猀 椀昀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 洀礀 渀漀琀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀⸀⤀ഊThe basic technique is to lay down the shape you want with white silk 
਀琀栀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 挀漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 搀攀猀椀最渀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀攀搀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 漀琀栀攀爀ഊEnglish pieces of the same era show evidence of having been worked in 
਀琀栀椀猀 眀愀礀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 眀栀椀琀攀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀 椀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 琀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 愀猀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀ഊleft when the pearls were snipped off.
਀ഊI have one piece of visual evidence for the use of this kind of embroidery
਀漀渀 猀攀挀甀氀愀爀 挀氀漀琀栀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 ㄀㐀琀栀 挀⸀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 昀攀眀 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 氀愀琀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀 ഊpainting _St. Ursula and her Virgins_ (don't recall the artist; I'll find
਀椀琀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀 椀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀⤀ 猀栀漀眀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀椀爀最椀渀猀 眀攀愀爀椀渀最 愀 瀀甀爀瀀氀攀 挀漀琀攀栀愀爀搀椀攀Ⰰഊthe torso of which is covered with phoenixes. Having examined a plate of 
਀琀栀攀 瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最 挀氀漀猀攀氀礀Ⰰ 䤀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀栀漀攀渀椀砀攀猀 愀爀攀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 椀渀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀 愀渀搀ഊred (silk?) embroidery. One piece of 16th c. evidence is a portrait of
਀愀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 挀漀甀渀琀Ⰰ 眀栀漀 椀猀 眀攀愀爀椀渀最 愀 搀漀甀戀氀攀琀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 瀀攀愀爀氀 挀爀攀猀挀攀渀琀 洀漀漀渀猀⸀ഊ
਀吀栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀氀猀漀 猀漀洀攀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 昀爀漀洀 椀渀瘀攀渀琀漀爀椀攀猀⸀ 䴀愀爀礀 匀琀攀氀氀愀 一攀眀琀漀渀 ⠀椀渀 栀攀爀ഊ_Fashion in the Age of the Black Prince_) quotes a number of Great Wardrobe
਀椀渀瘀攀渀琀漀爀椀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 氀椀猀琀 瀀攀愀爀氀ⴀ攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀攀搀 椀琀攀洀猀Ⰰ 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 栀愀琀猀 漀爀 栀漀漀搀猀 戀甀琀ഊsometimes mantles as well. For example the Dauphin of France had a hat worked
਀眀椀琀栀 瀀攀愀爀氀 氀攀漀瀀愀爀搀猀 栀漀氀搀椀渀最 氀漀稀攀渀最攀猀 眀椀琀栀 栀椀猀 愀爀洀猀⸀ ഊ
਀䤀 愀瀀漀氀漀最椀稀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 栀愀氀昀ⴀ挀椀琀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 洀礀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀㬀 甀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀Ⰰ 䤀✀洀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最ഊfrom memory here. Drop me a line if you'd like proper documentation.
਀ഊHope this helps...
਀ഊAlison MacDermot
਀⨀䔀砀 唀渀最甀攀 䰀攀漀渀攀洀⨀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: sindara at pobox.com (Sharon R. Saroff)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Byzantine beadwork--???
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ 　㈀ 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㄀㌀㨀　　㨀㌀㄀ 䜀䴀吀ഊ
਀㸀ⴀⴀ 嬀 䘀爀漀洀㨀 倀愀琀爀椀挀椀愀 䴀⸀ 䠀攀昀渀攀爀 ⨀ 䔀䴀䌀⸀嘀攀爀 ⌀㈀⸀㄀　倀 崀 ⴀⴀഊ>
਀㸀伀䬀Ⰰ 䤀 欀渀漀眀 䈀礀稀愀渀琀椀渀攀 最愀爀戀 栀愀猀 琀漀渀猀 漀昀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀 漀渀 椀琀⸀ 䘀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀ഊ>who do Byzantine garb, what are your favorite beads to sew onto it? I
਀㸀欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀礀 甀猀攀搀 愀氀漀琀 漀昀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀⸀ 圀栀愀琀 攀氀猀攀㼀 ⴀⴀⴀ䤀猀愀戀攀氀氀攀 ⠀猀琀椀氀氀 最爀攀攀搀椀氀礀ഊ>eyeing those bead containers)
਀ഊI have seen glass beads, gold and silver. Certain semi-precious stone
਀眀攀爀攀 焀甀椀琀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䈀氀甀攀 眀愀猀 愀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀爀 挀漀氀漀爀 漀昀 戀攀愀搀⸀ഊ
਀匀椀渀搀愀爀愀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: hrjones at uclink.berkeley.edu (Heather Rose Jones)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Early period Bead Work?!?!?
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㠀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 　㈀㨀㈀㠀㨀㈀　 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: University of California, Berkeley
਀ഊGordon Bulmer (bulmerg at sos.pwgsc.gc.ca) wrote:
਀㨀 䜀漀漀搀 䜀攀渀琀氀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀攀愀搀 眀漀爀欀 最漀攀猀 戀愀挀欀 ഊ: along way, but most of the examples I have been able to lay my hands on are 
਀㨀 昀爀漀洀 氀愀琀攀爀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀栀攀渀 䤀 愀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀⸀  䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 ഊ: early period use of bead work on garments (around 1150 would be good).  
਀ഊ: I was commissioned some time ago to work a friends coat of arms on the chest 
਀㨀 漀昀 愀 眀漀漀氀 漀瘀攀爀 琀甀渀椀挀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 昀氀漀猀猀Ⰰ 瀀攀愀爀氀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀猀攀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀氀 最漀氀搀 戀攀愀搀猀 琀栀愀琀 ഊ: look just like amber.  The tunic turned out wonderful and now I would like 
਀㨀 琀漀 猀栀漀眀 椀琀 漀昀昀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 戀甀琀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀 挀漀渀挀爀攀琀攀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 猀甀挀栀 愀 ഊ: treatment. Talk about getting the cart in front of the horse <grin>.
਀ഊWhether the examples I can provide would be applicable to the project at
਀栀愀渀搀 搀攀瀀攀渀搀猀 攀渀琀椀爀攀氀礀 漀渀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 搀椀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀愀琀 昀氀漀猀猀Ⰰ 瀀攀愀爀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀攀愀搀猀⸀ഊFor the 12th century, the best exemplars for decoration of combined
਀攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀 愀渀搀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀⼀戀攀愀搀猀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀爀漀渀愀琀椀漀渀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀猀 愀猀猀漀挀椀愀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀ഊthe Holy Roman Emperors. The piece that most often turns up in history of
਀挀漀猀琀甀洀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 椀猀 愀 栀愀氀昀ⴀ挀椀爀挀甀氀愀爀 挀氀漀愀欀 眀椀琀栀 愀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀 漀昀 琀椀最攀爀猀 愀琀琀愀挀欀椀渀最ഊcamels done in couched gold thread with outlines of double rows of pearls.
਀䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 瀀椀攀挀攀 栀愀猀 挀甀昀昀猀 眀椀琀栀 愀 瀀愀氀洀攀琀琀漀 搀攀猀椀最渀 漀昀 洀椀渀椀猀挀甀氀攀 挀漀甀挀栀攀搀 最漀氀搀ഊtubular beads, again with the pattern outlined with pearls. Another
਀最愀爀洀攀渀琀 栀愀猀 挀甀昀昀猀 眀椀琀栀 椀渀琀攀爀氀愀挀攀 搀攀猀椀最渀猀 搀漀渀攀 椀渀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀甀挀栀攀搀 最漀氀搀Ⰰഊwith cabochon gems in metal settings between the bands of interlace. The
਀挀氀漀愀欀 椀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀 漀昀 愀 瀀椀挀琀漀爀椀愀氀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀ഊ
਀圀栀攀琀栀攀爀 漀爀 渀漀琀 琀栀攀猀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 挀愀渀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 樀甀猀琀椀昀礀 礀漀甀爀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀 眀椀氀氀ഊdepend to a very large extent on what sort of embroidery you used and how
਀琀栀攀 猀琀漀渀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀ഊ
਀吀愀渀最眀礀猀琀礀氀 瘀攀爀挀栀 䴀漀爀最愀渀琀 䜀氀愀猀瘀爀礀渀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: Wayne Anderson <wander at hooked.net>
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Byzantine beadwork--???
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 㤀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㈀㄀㨀㈀㐀㨀㄀㘀 䜀䴀吀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀 洀礀 猀琀甀搀椀攀猀 漀昀 氀愀琀攀爀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 刀甀猀猀椀愀渀 挀漀猀琀甀洀椀渀最Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 搀攀猀挀攀渀搀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 䈀礀稀愀渀琀椀渀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀琀栀攀爀 漀昀 瀀攀愀爀氀 挀栀椀瀀猀 眀攀爀攀 漀昀琀攀渀 甀猀攀搀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 愀 洀漀爀攀 琀攀砀琀甀爀攀搀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀 琀栀愀渀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀攀洀椀ⴀ瀀爀攀挀椀漀甀猀 猀琀漀渀攀猀 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 愀洀礀琀栀攀猀琀Ⰰ 洀愀氀愀挀栀椀琀攀Ⰰ 琀椀最攀爀 攀礀攀Ⰰ 漀渀礀砀Ⰰ 最愀爀渀攀琀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀Ⰰ 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 昀爀漀洀 洀愀渀礀 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀爀猀 愀渀搀Ⰰ 眀栀椀氀攀 渀漀琀 搀椀爀琀ⴀ挀栀攀愀瀀Ⰰ 愀爀攀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 愀昀昀漀爀搀愀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 愀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 挀漀猀琀甀洀攀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀  最氀愀猀猀 漀爀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 戀攀愀搀猀 愀渀搀氀愀爀最攀爀Ⰰ 猀攀眀ⴀ漀渀 樀攀眀攀氀猀Ⰰ 愀瘀漀椀搀 琀栀攀 昀愀挀攀琀攀搀 漀渀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀琀椀挀欀 琀漀 爀漀甀渀搀 戀攀愀搀猀 愀渀搀 挀愀戀漀挀栀漀渀 樀攀眀攀氀猀⸀ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀攀眀 戀攀愀搀猀 漀渀 愀 琀攀猀琀 猀眀愀琀挀栀 愀渀搀 眀愀猀栀 漀爀 搀爀礀 挀氀攀愀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀瀀氀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀爀 戀攀愀搀猀 挀愀渀 琀愀欀攀 椀琀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 洀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 最愀爀戀⸀ഊ
਀伀洀愀爀最漀 ⠀䴀愀甀搀攀氀礀渀 漀昀 䈀爀礀渀 䄀甀爀  ⠀琀栀愀琀✀猀 爀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 䤀✀洀 戀愀挀欀℀⤀⤀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: ddfr at best.com (David Friedman)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Byzantine beadwork--???
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀　 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 　㄀㨀㈀㄀㨀㄀㈀ 䜀䴀吀ഊ
਀圀愀礀渀攀 䄀渀搀攀爀猀漀渀 㰀眀愀渀搀攀爀 愀琀 栀漀漀欀攀搀⸀渀攀琀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>These and other
਀㸀猀攀洀椀ⴀ瀀爀攀挀椀漀甀猀 猀琀漀渀攀猀 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 愀洀礀琀栀攀猀琀Ⰰ 洀愀氀愀挀栀椀琀攀Ⰰ 琀椀最攀爀 攀礀攀Ⰰ 漀渀礀砀Ⰰ 最愀爀渀攀琀Ⰰഊ>etc., are available from many suppliers and, while not dirt-cheap, are
਀㸀挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 愀昀昀漀爀搀愀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 愀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 挀漀猀琀甀洀攀⸀ഊ
਀伀昀 琀栀攀猀攀Ⰰ 琀椀最攀爀 攀礀攀 椀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䄀洀攀琀栀礀猀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀ഊconsiderably more expensive relative to other stones in period than it is
਀渀漀眀Ⰰ 猀漀 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀 椀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 爀椀挀栀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 椀昀ഊyou are trying not to. 
਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc
਀ⴀⴀ ഊddfr at best.com
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 圀甀氀昀 ☀ 吀攀搀搀椀 㰀眀甀氀昀最愀爀搀 愀琀 攀爀漀氀猀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀礀稀愀渀琀椀渀攀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀ⴀⴀ㼀㼀㼀ഊDate: 11 May 1996 13:56:17 GMT
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䌀氀愀渀 圀甀氀昀最愀爀搀ഊ
਀䄀渀渀 䰀愀甀爀攀氀 䬀漀瀀挀栀椀欀 㰀愀洀攀爀最椀渀愀⬀ 愀琀 䌀䴀唀⸀䔀䐀唀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>What sort of beadwork was used on Byzantine garb?  I've done some
਀㸀爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀猀 昀愀爀 愀猀 䤀 挀愀渀 琀攀氀氀Ⰰ 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀 眀愀猀 漀渀 琀爀椀洀⸀ഊ>Where beads used anywhere else on byzantine garb?
਀㸀ഊ>-Anwen
਀㸀ഊ>Ann Kopchik
਀㸀䄀渀渀 椀猀 愀洀攀爀最椀渀愀⬀ 愀琀 挀洀甀⸀攀搀甀 ⴀ 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀挀漀渀琀爀椀戀⸀愀渀搀爀攀眀⸀挀洀甀⸀攀搀甀⼀縀愀洀攀爀最椀渀愀ഊ
਀䜀爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀ⰀഊTo the best of my knowledge there are monastary records of the time 
਀猀琀愀琀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 渀漀戀椀氀椀琀礀 栀愀搀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀猀 猀漀 栀攀愀瘀椀氀礀 氀愀搀攀渀 眀椀琀栀 最攀洀猀 愀渀搀 ഊbeads that it was impossible for them to stand and move about without 
਀愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀挀攀⸀ 一漀眀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀猀琀 洀漀渀欀猀 昀攀氀琀 漀瀀瀀爀攀猀猀攀搀 戀礀 ഊsome of the nobility and have a long history of possible slandering of 
਀猀漀洀攀 渀漀戀氀攀猀Ⰰ⠀猀漀洀攀 愀挀挀漀甀渀琀猀 漀昀 吀栀攀漀搀漀爀愀✀猀 氀椀昀攀 昀漀爀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀⤀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀渀 ഊgeneral we should be able to assume that if even 10% was true that was a 
਀氀漀琀 漀昀 戀攀愀搀椀渀最⸀ ∀吀漀漀 洀甀挀栀 椀猀 渀攀瘀攀爀 攀渀漀甀最栀⸀∀ഊ
਀吀栀愀琀猀 眀栀礀 䤀 氀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀 猀漀℀℀℀℀ഊ
਀䰀愀搀礀 吀栀攀漀搀漀爀愀 儀甀攀渀渀攀氀氀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: excmairi at aol.com (EXCMairi)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Byzantine beadwork--???
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㐀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㄀㐀㨀㐀㠀㨀㈀㜀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊ
਀䌀栀攀挀欀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䌀爀愀昀琀猀洀攀渀 猀攀爀椀攀猀 ⠀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 椀渀昀漀⸀ 漀渀ഊme at the moment...) - the one on embroidery/embroiderers.  There is a
਀瀀栀漀琀漀 漀昀 戀礀稀愀渀琀椀渀攀 搀愀氀洀愀琀椀挀愀 挀甀昀昀猀 ⠀氀愀琀攀爀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀礀稀⸀⤀ ⴀ 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀ഊin a vine-scroll pattern done in gold bugle beads (the long, thin ones). 
਀䌀漀漀氀℀ഊ
਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 猀栀愀昀攀爀 愀琀 昀攀爀栀椀渀漀⸀搀昀爀挀⸀渀愀猀愀⸀最漀瘀 ⠀䴀愀爀礀 匀栀愀昀攀爀⤀ഊSubject: Re: Byzantine beadwork--???
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 一䄀匀䄀 䐀爀礀搀攀渀 䘀氀椀最栀琀 刀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 䌀攀渀琀攀爀Ⰰ 䔀搀眀愀爀搀猀 䌀䄀ഊDate: Tue, 14 May 1996 19:01:11 GMT
਀ഊOn 10 May 1996 01:21:12 GMT, ddfr at best.com (David Friedman) said:
਀䌀㸀 伀昀 琀栀攀猀攀Ⰰ 琀椀最攀爀 攀礀攀 椀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䄀洀攀琀栀礀猀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀ഊC> have been considerably more expensive relative to other stones in
਀䌀㸀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀栀愀渀 椀琀 椀猀 渀漀眀Ⰰ 猀漀 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀 椀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀ഊC> trying to look rich, not if you are trying not to.
਀ഊAmethyst was extremely rare until it was found in Brazil in vast
਀焀甀愀渀琀椀琀椀攀猀⸀  吀栀椀猀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 搀爀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀挀攀 搀漀眀渀 琀爀攀洀攀渀搀漀甀猀氀礀⸀ഊAs a result, it went from being a precious gem to being semi-precious,
਀戀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 挀栀愀渀最攀 眀愀猀 瀀漀猀琀ⴀ倀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ഊ--
਀䴀愀爀礀 匀栀愀昀攀爀               一䄀匀䄀 䐀爀礀搀攀渀 䘀氀椀最栀琀 刀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 䌀攀渀琀攀爀Ⰰ 䔀搀眀愀爀搀猀Ⰰ 䌀䄀ഊSR-71 Flying Qualities Lead Engineer     Of course I don't speak for NASA 
਀猀栀愀昀攀爀 愀琀 昀攀爀栀椀渀漀⸀搀昀爀挀⸀渀愀猀愀⸀最漀瘀                               䐀漀䐀 ⌀㌀㘀㈀ 䬀漀琀䘀刀   ഊURL http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀搀昀爀 愀琀 戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䐀愀瘀椀搀 䘀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀礀稀愀渀琀椀渀攀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀ⴀⴀ㼀㼀㼀ഊDate: 15 May 1996 05:11:28 GMT
਀ഊI wrote:
਀㸀 䌀㸀 伀昀 琀栀攀猀攀Ⰰ 琀椀最攀爀 攀礀攀 椀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䄀洀攀琀栀礀猀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀ഊ> C> have been considerably more expensive relative to other stones in
਀㸀 䌀㸀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀栀愀渀 椀琀 椀猀 渀漀眀Ⰰ 猀漀 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀 椀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀ഊ> C> trying to look rich, not if you are trying not to.
਀ഊMary Shafer wrote:
਀㸀 䄀洀攀琀栀礀猀琀 眀愀猀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 爀愀爀攀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 眀愀猀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 䈀爀愀稀椀氀 椀渀 瘀愀猀琀ഊ> quantities.  This, of course, drove the price down tremendously.
਀㸀 䄀猀 愀 爀攀猀甀氀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀攀渀琀 昀爀漀洀 戀攀椀渀最 愀 瀀爀攀挀椀漀甀猀 最攀洀 琀漀 戀攀椀渀最 猀攀洀椀ⴀ瀀爀攀挀椀漀甀猀Ⰰഊ> but this change was post-Period.
਀ഊ1. I do not believe Amethyst appears in the lists of precious stones in
਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀 ⠀椀⸀攀⸀ 眀栀攀爀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀爀攀 搀椀猀琀椀渀最甀椀猀栀椀渀最 瀀爀攀挀椀漀甀猀 昀爀漀洀 漀琀栀攀爀⤀⸀ 䤀 愀洀ഊpretty sure that Cellini's list is like ours--diamond, emerald, ruby,
਀猀愀瀀瀀栀椀爀攀⸀ഊ
਀㈀⸀ 圀栀椀氀攀 䤀 愀洀 渀漀琀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀Ⰰ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 瀀爀椀挀攀 搀爀漀瀀 眀愀猀 搀甀攀 琀漀ഊdiscoveries in Russia, with Brazil later. 
਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 瀀愀爀欀攀爀搀 愀琀 洀挀洀愀椀氀⸀挀椀猀⸀䴀挀䴀愀猀琀攀爀⸀䌀䄀 ⠀䐀椀愀渀愀 倀愀爀欀攀爀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀礀稀愀渀琀椀渀攀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀ⴀⴀ㼀㼀㼀ഊDate: 15 May 1996 14:18:13 -0400
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䴀挀䴀愀猀琀攀爀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀Ⰰ 䠀愀洀椀氀琀漀渀Ⰰ 伀渀琀愀爀椀漀Ⰰ 䌀愀渀愀搀愀⸀ഊ
਀䐀愀瘀椀搀 䘀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀 㰀搀搀昀爀 愀琀 戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>Mary Shafer wrote: 
਀㸀㸀 䄀洀攀琀栀礀猀琀 眀愀猀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 爀愀爀攀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 眀愀猀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 䈀爀愀稀椀氀 椀渀 瘀愀猀琀ഊ>> quantities.  This, of course, drove the price down tremendously.
਀㸀㸀 䄀猀 愀 爀攀猀甀氀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀攀渀琀 昀爀漀洀 戀攀椀渀最 愀 瀀爀攀挀椀漀甀猀 最攀洀 琀漀 戀攀椀渀最 猀攀洀椀ⴀ瀀爀攀挀椀漀甀猀Ⰰഊ>> but this change was post-Period.
਀ഊ>2. While I am not certain, I think the original price drop was due to
਀㸀搀椀猀挀漀瘀攀爀椀攀猀 椀渀 刀甀猀猀椀愀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 䈀爀愀稀椀氀 氀愀琀攀爀⸀ ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀 䜀甀椀搀攀 琀漀 䜀攀洀猀 愀渀搀 倀爀攀挀椀漀甀猀 匀琀漀渀攀猀 ⠀䌀椀瀀爀椀愀渀椀☀䈀漀爀攀氀氀椀Ⰰ 　ⴀ㘀㜀㄀ⴀ㘀　㐀㌀　ⴀ㤀⤀ഊ
਀∀伀䌀䌀唀刀刀䔀一䌀䔀㨀 吀栀攀 昀椀渀攀猀琀 愀洀攀琀栀礀攀猀琀猀 挀漀洀攀 ⠀椀渀 最爀攀愀琀 焀甀愀渀琀椀琀椀攀猀⤀ 昀爀漀洀 䈀爀愀稀椀氀ഊand neighbouring Uraguay, from the the United States, Madagascar, and the
਀匀漀瘀椀攀琀 唀渀椀漀渀Ⰰ 䤀渀搀椀愀渀Ⰰ 䄀甀猀琀爀愀氀椀愀Ⰰ 匀漀甀琀栀 䄀昀爀椀挀愀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀愀渀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 挀漀甀渀琀爀椀攀猀⸀∀ ഊ"VALUE: A few centuries ago, deep-colored amethyst was highly prized.  
਀䤀琀猀 瘀愀氀甀攀 昀攀氀氀 最爀攀愀琀氀礀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀挀漀瘀攀爀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀愀爀最攀 䈀爀愀稀椀氀椀愀渀 愀渀搀 ഊUruguayan deposits at the end of the nineteenth century.  Now relegated 
਀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 愀 猀攀挀漀渀搀愀爀礀 最攀洀Ⰰ 椀琀猀 瘀愀氀甀攀 椀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 氀漀眀⸀∀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ ∀ 吀栀攀 瘀椀漀氀攀琀Ⰰ 瀀甀爀瀀氀攀 琀漀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 瀀椀渀欀 瘀愀爀椀攀琀礀 漀昀 ഊquartz is called amethyst, an ancient name derived from the Greek 
਀∀䄀洀攀琀栀礀猀琀漀猀∀Ⰰ 洀攀愀渀椀渀最 ∀渀漀琀 搀爀甀渀欀攀渀Ⰰ∀ 愀猀 椀琀 眀愀猀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀搀 琀漀 瀀爀漀琀攀挀琀 琀栀漀猀攀 ഊwho wore it from drunkeness.  It is the most highly prized variety of 
਀焀甀愀爀琀稀⸀∀ഊ
਀挀栀攀攀爀猀ഊTabitha
਀ⴀⴀ ഊ Diana Parker           parkerd at mcmaster.ca     (905) 525-9140 (x24282)
਀ 䌀唀䌀 ⴀ ㈀　㄀               匀攀挀甀爀椀琀礀 匀攀爀瘀椀挀攀猀       䴀挀䴀愀猀琀攀爀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: sindara at pobox.com (Sharon R. Saroff)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Byzantine beadwork--???
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㔀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㈀㄀㨀㈀㜀㨀㐀㘀 䜀䴀吀ഊ
਀䤀 爀攀愀搀 愀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 愀 刀甀猀猀椀愀渀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀 猀琀椀琀挀栀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 倀氀愀挀椀渀最ഊwhich is very strong. It is a second cousin of Couching, but instead
਀漀昀 瀀甀琀琀椀渀最 愀 瀀氀愀椀渀 猀琀椀琀挀栀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 攀愀挀栀 戀攀愀搀 礀漀甀 瀀氀愀挀攀 愀 欀渀漀琀⸀ 吀栀漀甀最栀ഊit takes practice to do this stitich, once mastered those beads aren't
਀最漀椀渀最 愀渀礀眀栀攀爀攀⸀ഊ
਀匀䤀渀搀愀爀愀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: sindara at pobox.com (Sharon R. Saroff)
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Byzantine beadwork--???
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㔀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㈀㄀㨀㔀㘀㨀㈀　 䜀䴀吀ഊ
਀䤀 昀椀渀搀 椀琀 栀愀爀搀 琀栀愀琀 䄀洀攀琀栀礀猀琀 眀愀猀 猀漀 爀愀爀攀 搀甀爀椀渀最 漀甀爀 琀椀洀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䤀ഊhave been researching the folklore of gems for the last four years and
਀栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 渀甀洀攀爀漀甀猀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀洀攀琀栀礀猀琀 昀漀爀 挀甀爀椀渀最 漀爀 搀攀愀氀椀渀最ഊwith various ailments. Also I have found mention of Cat's Eye in
਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 渀愀洀攀 漀昀 挀爀礀猀漀戀攀爀礀氀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 瀀爀漀洀椀渀攀渀琀 猀琀漀渀攀 琀漀ഊthe Hindu's and other peoples who dwell in that part of the world.
਀ഊSindara
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 猀椀渀搀愀爀愀 愀琀 瀀漀戀漀砀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀匀栀愀爀漀渀 刀⸀ 匀愀爀漀昀昀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀礀稀愀渀琀椀渀攀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀ⴀⴀ㼀㼀㼀ഊDate: Wed, 15 May 1996 21:56:22 GMT
਀ഊAnother heavily used type of bead was made of fresh water pearl which
਀眀愀猀 瘀攀爀礀 愀戀甀渀搀愀渀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 爀椀瘀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 猀琀爀攀愀洀猀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀ഊDalmatica cuffs with seed pearls in knotwork, vinework, and flower
਀瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 最爀攀愀琀 戀漀漀欀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 䄀 倀椀挀琀漀爀椀愀氀 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀ഊEmbroidery that has a lot of pictures of period bead embroidery.
਀ഊSindara
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀愀搀椀爀愀 戀椀渀琀 刀愀礀愀 愀氀ⴀ䄀猀椀爀椀 㰀爀漀戀椀渀猀漀渀 愀琀 愀瘀愀渀愀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca,
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䈀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀 漀渀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀 䜀愀爀戀ഊDate: Wed, 08 May 96 17:34:57 PDT
਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䄀瘀愀渀愀 䌀漀洀洀甀渀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀 䌀漀爀瀀⸀ഊ
਀䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 猀攀攀 洀礀 氀愀猀琀 瀀漀猀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀甀戀樀攀挀琀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀 最甀攀猀猀 椀琀 最漀琀 氀漀猀琀 椀渀 ഊcyberspace. Here it is again, for those who care, and don't:
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਀ഊI have just made a major documentation run on the local university (looking 
਀昀漀爀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀Ⰰ 瀀爀椀洀愀爀椀氀礀 戀甀琀 愀氀猀漀 戀攀愀搀猀 愀渀搀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀⤀⸀ 䄀 昀攀眀 琀椀搀戀椀琀猀㨀ഊ
਀ⴀⴀ伀氀搀攀猀琀 攀砀琀愀渀琀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀 ⠀猀愀琀椀渀 愀渀搀 猀琀攀洀 猀琀椀琀挀栀⤀ 椀猀 漀渀 愀 昀甀渀攀爀愀爀礀 猀栀椀爀琀 昀漀爀 ഊKing Tutankhamen, dated roughly 1400 BC
਀ഊ--Maghrebi style of embroidery first used 600-700 AD in Arabia and North 
਀䄀昀爀椀挀愀 ⠀䴀漀爀漀挀挀漀⤀ⴀⴀ氀愀爀最攀氀礀 最攀漀洀攀琀爀椀挀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀Ⰰ 栀椀最栀氀礀 攀氀愀戀漀爀愀琀攀Ⰰ搀攀猀椀最渀猀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 ഊ
਀琀漀 匀⸀ 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀 愀渀搀 䈀愀氀欀愀渀 洀漀琀椀昀猀Ⰰ 䤀渀搀椀猀琀椀渀最甀椀猀栀愀戀氀攀 昀爀漀洀 䄀攀最攀愀渀 ⠀一愀砀漀猀⤀Ⰰ ഊPalestinian designs; used stem stitch, thick cross stitch, satin stitch, split 
਀ഊsatin, chain
਀ഊ--Predominant color red, predominant ground color indigo, black, dark green, 
਀最爀漀甀渀搀 挀氀漀琀栀 氀椀渀攀渀 漀爀 挀漀琀琀漀渀Ⰰ 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀 猀椀氀欀 愀渀搀 洀攀琀愀氀Ⰰ 爀愀爀攀氀礀 ഊcotton
਀ഊ--What was embroidered: anything that stood still and that people might 
਀猀攀攀ⴀⴀ瀀愀渀琀猀Ⰰ 挀漀愀琀猀Ⰰ 猀栀椀爀琀猀Ⰰ 栀愀渀欀椀攀猀Ⰰ 琀甀爀戀愀渀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀Ⰰ 猀栀漀攀猀Ⰰ 猀挀愀戀戀愀爀搀猀Ⰰ 焀甀椀瘀攀爀猀Ⰰ ഊsaddles, animal hangings, tents, bags, etc.
਀ഊ--Where was it embroidered: anywhere people might see it--you don't embroider 
਀眀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 戀礀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 攀氀猀攀 ⠀攀砀挀攀瀀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀愀眀戀猀⤀ഊ
਀ⴀⴀ䐀攀猀椀最渀猀㨀 䤀昀 椀琀 椀猀 漀渀 愀渀 漀爀椀攀渀琀愀氀 挀愀爀瀀攀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 昀愀椀爀 最愀洀攀 昀漀爀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀ⴀⴀ琀栀攀 ഊ
਀洀漀琀椀昀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 眀攀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 戀漀琀栀 愀渀搀 眀攀爀攀 漀昀琀攀渀 瘀椀氀氀愀最攀 漀爀 琀爀椀戀愀氀 ഊproperty
਀ഊand now....
਀ഊBEADS!!  SEED BEADS ARE PERIOD!!  Very small beads were first produced in 
਀倀栀愀爀愀漀渀椀挀 䔀最礀瀀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 最氀愀猀猀 戀攀愀搀猀 漀昀 ㄀ⴀ㌀ 洀洀 猀椀稀攀 眀攀爀攀 戀攀椀渀最 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀搀 椀渀 䄀爀愀戀椀愀 ഊfrom 700 to 1400 AD, when the Mongols invaded, and glass beadmaking moved to 
਀嘀攀渀椀挀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 戀攀挀愀洀攀 昀愀洀漀甀猀 昀漀爀 猀攀攀搀 戀攀愀搀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀　　 礀攀愀爀猀 氀愀琀攀爀⸀ഊ
਀一漀眀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀 瀀甀琀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀愀洀渀 琀栀椀渀最猀 漀渀 挀氀漀琀栀攀猀ⴀⴀ愀氀琀栀漀 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 ഊPRIMARY DOCUMENTATION of a complete set of Turkish woman's clothes which was 
਀攀氀愀戀漀爀愀琀攀氀礀 戀攀愀搀攀搀ⴀⴀ㄀㔀㐀㔀Ⰰ 吀漀瀀欀愀瀀椀 匀愀爀愀礀 洀甀猀攀甀洀⸀ഊ
਀匀漀甀爀挀攀猀㨀  䠀愀爀爀椀猀Ⰰ 吀攀砀琀椀氀攀猀Ⰰ 㔀　　　 礀攀愀爀猀ഊ          Taylor, Ottoman Embroidery
਀          䐀甀戀椀渀Ⰰ 吀栀攀 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 䈀攀愀搀猀ഊ          Trilling, Aegean Crossroads  
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਀ഊIf I'm repeating myself, sorry. If you'd like an outline of ME embroidery and 
਀愀 戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀礀Ⰰ 氀攀琀 洀攀 欀渀漀眀 愀渀搀 䤀 眀椀氀氀 攀ⴀ洀愀椀氀 椀琀⸀ഊ
਀䤀渀 猀攀爀瘀椀挀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 䘀甀爀琀栀攀爀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 吀栀椀渀最猀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀Ⰰഊ
਀匀愀礀礀椀搀愀 匀愀搀椀爀愀 戀椀渀琀 刀愀礀愀 愀氀ⴀ䄀猀椀爀椀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Mon, 05 May 1997 19:36:34 EDT
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 琀漀甀爀搀椀漀渀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䈀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀ഊ
਀㰀猀渀椀瀀㸀ഊ
਀㸀       圀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 礀漀甀 洀攀愀渀椀渀最 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 戀礀 ∀戀攀愀搀椀渀最∀㼀 吀栀攀礀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 搀椀搀 ഊ>sew beads on clothing, especially in late period, and they did wear 
਀㸀渀攀挀欀氀愀挀攀猀 漀昀 最氀愀猀猀 戀攀愀搀猀 搀甀爀爀椀渀最 攀愀爀氀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀ⴀⴀ攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 琀栀攀 一漀爀猀攀⸀ 䈀甀琀ഊ>oddly enough, although the Italians in particular made a lot of
਀眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 㸀最氀愀猀猀 戀攀愀搀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 ⨀搀漀渀✀琀⨀ 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀漀爀渀 琀栀攀洀℀ 吀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀ഊmade for trading >and seem to have been reguarded as tacky, primative
਀琀栀椀渀最猀⸀⸀⸀⸀ 匀椀氀氀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀℀ ഊ
਀㰀猀渀椀瀀㸀ഊ
਀䄀栀Ⰰ 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀℀ 伀渀攀 漀昀 洀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 猀甀戀樀攀挀琀猀℀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 猀漀洀攀ഊsplendiferous pictures of 13th century Saxony beadwork done on parchment
਀愀渀搀 愀瀀瀀氀椀焀甀攀搀 漀渀琀漀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 挀栀甀爀挀栀 瘀攀猀琀洀攀渀琀猀⸀ 䴀礀 昀椀爀猀琀 昀椀渀搀 挀愀洀攀ഊfrom one of those Shire booklets on beadwork. It pertains mostly to
਀嘀椀挀琀漀爀椀愀渀 攀爀愀 猀琀甀昀昀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 洀愀爀瘀攀氀漀甀猀 猀琀爀椀瀀 漀昀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀 琀栀愀琀ഊconsists of saint figures. There are also more examples in a book called
਀䜀氀愀猀瀀攀爀氀攀渀 戀礀 䔀搀椀琀栀 䠀漀氀洀⸀ 䄀猀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 最甀攀猀猀 戀礀 琀栀攀 琀椀琀氀攀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 椀渀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀ഊbut don't let that intimidate you. My German consists of everything I
਀氀攀愀爀渀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 眀愀琀挀栀椀渀最 䠀漀最愀渀✀猀 䠀攀爀漀攀猀 愀渀搀 䤀 猀琀椀氀氀 最漀琀 愀 氀漀琀 漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊbook. Hope this is useful.
਀䔀氀猀瀀攀琀栀 渀椀挀 䌀漀爀洀愀挀ഊMeridies
਀ഊ
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 㐀 䨀甀渀 㤀㜀 ㄀㤀㨀㔀㜀㨀㐀㠀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: Irene leNoir <irene at ici.net>
਀吀漀㨀 ∀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: Looking for documention on period seed beads
਀ഊOthers have already pointed out citations for seed beads being period.
਀ഊTo the best of my knowledge, loomed beadwork is not period for Mediaeval Europe.
਀ഊI do, however, have documentation for "peyote" style beadwork (also 
਀漀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀 欀渀漀眀渀 愀猀 琀眀椀氀氀 戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀⤀ 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀⸀ഊ________________________________
਀䨀攀猀猀椀挀愀 䤀⸀ 䌀氀愀爀欀ഊSCA: Baroness Ir=E8ne leNoir
਀樀攀猀猀椀挀愀 愀琀 椀挀椀⸀渀攀琀 漀爀 椀爀攀渀攀 愀琀 椀挀椀⸀渀攀琀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 11:27:10 -0400 (EDT)
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 嘀愀爀樀甀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀攀愀搀猀ഊ
਀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 愀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 戀攀愀搀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 戀攀攀渀 琀漀氀搀 愀爀攀ഊexcellent.  The only one i can remember off hand at this point is:
਀ഊ_Bead Embroidery_ by Joan Edwards
਀ഊI have not read this book but I have heard it is very good.
਀ഊNoemi
਀瘀愀爀樀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊ
਀ഊFrom: Rebekah & Chip <rinman at ucsd.edu>
਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: period jewel fastening
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀　 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㈀㨀㔀㔀㨀㔀㘀 ⴀ　㜀　　ഊOrganization: University of California at San Diego
਀ഊIsabelle de Foix queried:
਀ഊ> Does anybody know how they fastened all of those jewels on late period
਀㸀 挀漀甀爀琀 最愀爀戀㼀 䤀 漀渀挀攀 爀攀愀搀 琀栀愀琀 猀漀洀攀戀漀搀礀 眀愀猀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 昀漀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 儀甀攀攀渀ഊ> Elizabeth I, picking up the jewels that fell off of her dress. Was the
਀㸀 猀愀洀攀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 甀猀攀搀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀漀甀琀 圀攀猀琀攀爀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀 漀爀 眀攀爀攀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀ഊ> employed? I *don't* think they sewed those things on!
਀ഊThe pearls on (at least late) Byzantine court (14th/15th century) attire
਀眀攀爀攀Ⰰ 椀渀 昀愀挀琀Ⰰ 猀攀眀渀 漀渀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 戀攀愀甀琀椀昀甀氀 挀氀漀猀攀 甀瀀 挀漀氀漀爀 瀀氀愀琀攀猀ഊof this work in a book called:
਀ഊ        Byzantine Art in the Collections of Soviet Museums
਀        䄀氀椀猀愀 嘀⸀ 䈀愀渀欀ഊ        Leningrad: Aurora 1977
਀ഊThe pearls are drilled, the hole is parallel to the cloth.
਀ഊThe only stones I've seen appear to have been set in gold which wraps up
਀昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 昀漀爀洀椀渀最 愀 氀椀瀀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀渀攀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀ഊphotographs were not close enough for good detail, however, so I can
਀漀渀氀礀 挀愀氀氀 琀栀椀猀 猀瀀攀挀甀氀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ
਀䈀愀爀搀愀猀 堀椀瀀栀椀愀猀ⰀഊCalafia, Caid
਀ഊChip, rinman at ucsd.edu
਀ഊ
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 琀樀甀猀琀甀猀 愀琀 猀瀀爀礀渀攀琀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀吀 䨀甀猀琀甀猀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 樀攀眀攀氀 昀愀猀琀攀渀椀渀最ഊDate: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 07:09:20 GMT
਀ഊ>Does anybody know how they fastened all of those jewels on late period
਀㸀挀漀甀爀琀 最愀爀戀㼀 䤀 漀渀挀攀 爀攀愀搀 琀栀愀琀 猀漀洀攀戀漀搀礀 眀愀猀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 昀漀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 儀甀攀攀渀ഊ>Elizabeth I, picking up the jewels that fell off of her dress. Was the
਀㸀猀愀洀攀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 甀猀攀搀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀漀甀琀 圀攀猀琀攀爀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀 漀爀 眀攀爀攀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀ഊ>employed? I *don't* think they sewed those things on! 
਀ഊThe short answer: Yes, the jewels were sewn on.
਀ഊThe longer answer: According to Janet Arnold, in an essay 'Sweet
਀䔀渀最氀愀渀搀✀猀 䨀攀眀攀氀猀✀  椀渀 开倀爀椀渀挀攀氀礀 䴀愀最渀椀昀椀挀攀渀挀攀㨀 䌀漀甀爀琀 䨀攀眀攀氀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊRennaissance, 1500-1630_ ( ed. Anna Somers Cocks, Debrett's Peerage
਀䰀琀搀⸀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀　⤀  猀洀愀氀氀 樀攀眀攀氀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀攀眀渀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀⸀ 匀椀渀最氀攀 樀攀眀攀氀猀ഊwere pinned on (with a separate straight pin). Because pins could work
਀氀漀漀猀攀 愀渀搀 樀攀眀攀氀猀 戀攀 氀漀猀琀 愀猀 愀搀搀攀搀 猀攀挀甀爀椀琀礀 愀 爀椀戀戀漀渀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 琀椀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀ഊthe pin (seen toward the end of the 16th c). Brooches were jewels with
਀椀渀琀攀最爀愀氀 瀀椀渀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 戀愀挀欀⸀ 䨀攀眀攀氀猀 眀攀爀攀 漀昀琀攀渀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 漀渀攀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀ഊand sewn on a new one, sometimes in combination with other jewels.
਀伀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀 愀 最椀爀搀氀攀 ⠀戀攀氀琀 漀昀 氀椀渀欀攀搀 甀渀椀琀猀⤀ 眀愀猀 戀爀漀欀攀渀 甀瀀 猀漀 琀栀攀ഊjewels could be sewn on individually. Gems were always in a metal
਀猀攀琀琀椀渀最⸀ 吀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 攀砀挀攀瀀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀栀椀猀 爀甀氀攀 䤀✀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 愀爀攀 瀀攀愀爀氀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀ഊcould be drilled and sewn on individually. Common designs for a jewel
਀眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 猀攀琀琀椀渀最 ✀爀漀猀攀ⴀ昀愀猀栀椀漀渀攀搀✀ 眀椀琀栀 愀 挀攀渀琀爀愀氀 猀琀漀渀攀 猀甀爀爀漀甀渀搀攀搀 戀礀ഊother stones, petal-wise. A 'cinque' is a central stone surrounded by
਀昀漀甀爀 猀琀漀渀攀猀⸀ ⠀䌀椀渀焀ⴀⴀ 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 昀漀爀 昀椀瘀攀⸀⤀  ഊ   Yes, this sort of clothing was labor intensive. Cost of labor and
਀洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 愀 挀漀渀挀攀爀渀 椀昀 漀渀攀 眀愀猀 儀甀攀攀渀⸀ 䰀愀戀漀爀 眀愀猀 挀栀攀愀瀀⸀  吀栀攀ഊcost of the tailor was a small fraction of the cost of the materials.
਀䤀渀 ㄀㔀㔀㤀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀挀攀 漀昀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 昀漀爀 愀 欀椀爀琀氀攀 昀漀爀 愀 洀椀渀漀爀 渀漀戀氀攀眀漀洀愀渀ഊranged from 30 shillings (3 yds black damask) to 3 pounds (3 yds
਀眀爀漀甀最栀琀 爀甀猀猀攀琀 瘀攀氀瘀攀琀⤀ 眀栀椀氀攀 琀栀攀 氀愀戀漀爀 挀漀猀琀猀 昀漀爀 洀愀欀椀渀最 愀 欀椀爀琀氀攀 眀愀猀 ㈀ഊto 4 shillings. ('The Clothes of Thomasine Petrie 1555-1559' by Anne
਀䈀甀挀欀Ⰰ ✀䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀✀ ⌀㈀㐀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㤀　⤀ 䄀琀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀漀挀椀愀氀 猀挀愀氀攀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 愀ഊWelsh servant in the late 16th c the wool for two petticoats cost 3
਀猀栀椀氀氀椀渀最猀 㘀 瀀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀氀攀 琀栀攀 洀愀欀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀攀琀琀椀挀漀愀琀猀 挀漀猀琀 㐀 瀀攀渀挀攀⸀ഊ('Clothing given to a Servant of the Late Sixteenth Century in Wales'
਀戀礀 䤀氀椀搀 䄀渀琀栀漀渀礀Ⰰ ✀䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀✀ ⌀㄀㐀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀　⤀  䨀攀眀攀氀猀 眀攀爀攀 焀甀椀琀攀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀⸀ഊThomasine Petrie had 15 white enamel gold buttons that cost 1 pound 7
਀猀栀椀氀氀椀渀最猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 ㄀㈀ 猀栀椀氀氀椀渀最猀 㘀 瀀攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 氀愀戀漀爀⸀ഊThe most extravagant thing the Welsh maid Elin had was a girdle of
਀猀椀氀欀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 挀漀猀琀 ㄀㠀 猀栀椀氀氀椀渀最猀⸀ഊ   I see no reason to think that jewel attachment methods were any
਀搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 椀渀 愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 挀漀甀渀琀爀椀攀猀 漀昀 圀攀猀琀攀爀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ㄀㘀琀栀ഊcentury.
਀ഊTracy Justus  AKA Clare de Crecy
਀ഊ
਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㈀㨀㌀㌀㨀㈀㐀 ⴀ　㜀　　ഊFrom: Brett and Karen Williams <brettwi at ix.netcom.com>
਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Shisha Mirrors
਀ഊ<snip>
਀䄀渀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 戀攀愀搀猀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀攀搀 琀漀 猀琀甀洀戀氀攀 愀挀爀漀猀猀㨀ഊhttp://www.mcs.net/~simone/beadfairies.html
਀ഊWhich is a HUGE site and has a bead FAQ with lots and lots of source
਀氀椀猀琀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 戀攀愀搀猀⸀ 㬀⤀ഊ
਀挀椀漀爀猀琀愀渀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:53:31 -0500
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 刀漀戀攀爀琀愀 刀 䌀漀洀猀琀漀挀欀 㰀昀爀漀最最攀猀琀漀眀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䘀漀氀欀眀攀愀爀 倀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀ഊ
਀伀渀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㈀㐀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 　㄀㨀㐀㤀㨀㄀㔀 䔀䐀吀 㰀倀栀攀昀渀攀爀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ<<< They come with embroidery patterns, but I've never done embroidery aside
਀昀爀漀洀 愀 猀洀愀琀琀攀爀椀渀最 漀昀 戀愀挀欀猀琀椀琀挀栀⸀ 䤀 琀爀椀攀搀 氀攀愀爀渀椀渀最 挀栀愀椀渀 猀琀椀琀挀栀 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀渀最ഊdrove me nuts for weeks. I'd better learn this stuff or else......could I
਀最攀琀 愀眀愀礀 眀椀琀栀 爀漀挀愀椀氀氀攀 戀攀愀搀猀㼀 吀栀愀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 猀愀瘀攀 洀攀 愀 昀攀眀 栀攀愀搀愀挀栀攀猀⸀ഊ
਀䤀猀愀戀攀氀氀攀 㸀㸀㸀ഊ
਀刀漀挀愀椀氀氀攀 戀攀愀搀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 猀攀攀搀 戀攀攀搀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 洀椀爀爀漀爀 昀椀渀椀猀栀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 琀栀愀琀 洀愀欀攀猀ഊthem glittery, are post period.  The silver lining is the same technique
਀甀猀攀搀 椀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 洀漀搀攀爀渀 洀椀爀爀漀爀猀⸀  䤀琀 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 欀渀漀眀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 刀攀渀愀椀猀猀愀渀挀攀⸀  䤀ഊdon't have a reference, but believe it was discovered in the 18th
਀挀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀ഊ
਀䠀攀爀琀栀愀ഊ
਀ഊDate: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:11:33 -0500
਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 刀漀戀攀爀琀愀 刀 䌀漀洀猀琀漀挀欀 㰀昀爀漀最最攀猀琀漀眀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䘀漀氀欀眀攀愀爀 倀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀ഊ
਀伀渀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀ 䄀甀最 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㔀㨀㔀㠀㨀㐀㈀ 䔀䐀吀 㰀倀栀攀昀渀攀爀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>I'm not talking about the beads with the silvery insides--if I'm not
਀㸀洀椀猀琀愀欀攀渀Ⰰ 琀栀漀猀攀 愀爀攀 戀甀最氀攀 戀攀愀搀猀⸀ ∀刀漀挀愀椀氀氀攀∀ 椀猀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 昀漀爀 ∀氀椀琀琀氀攀 爀漀挀欀∀ 愀渀搀ഊ>they're just colored glass beads. They do come in crystal, but they don't
਀㸀爀攀昀爀愀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 洀甀挀栀 氀椀最栀琀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀礀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀愀琀 猀椀氀瘀攀爀礀 椀渀猀椀搀攀⸀ഊ>They're plain glass.
਀㸀ഊ>Isabelle
਀ഊIn my experience the term rocaille is for the seed beads with mirrored
਀椀渀猀椀搀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 攀氀漀渀最愀琀攀搀 漀渀攀猀Ⰰ 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 洀椀爀爀漀爀攀搀 漀爀 瀀氀愀椀渀 愀爀攀 戀甀最氀攀 戀攀愀搀猀⸀ഊPlain glass seed beeds should work fine.  I know that there were jet
਀戀攀愀搀猀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 ⠀䈀氀愀挀欀Ⰰ 挀愀爀瘀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 愀 挀漀愀氀ⴀ氀椀欀攀 猀甀戀猀琀愀渀挀攀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀ഊlittle seed pearls, gold and silver beads plus flat gold and silver
਀猀攀焀甀椀渀猀⸀  伀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀攀爀挀栀愀渀琀猀 愀琀 瀀攀渀渀猀椀挀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 猀攀氀氀 琀栀攀猀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊremember who.
਀ഊAnother option for covering a lot of ground in a hurry is couching with
਀最漀氀搀 戀爀愀椀搀 椀渀 猀眀椀爀氀椀渀最 挀甀爀瘀攀猀 愀渀搀 瘀椀渀攀ⴀ氀椀欀攀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀⸀  吀栀椀猀 最漀攀猀 洀甀挀栀ഊfaster than either embroidery or beading.  It can also be effectively
਀挀漀洀戀椀渀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 戀攀愀搀椀渀最Ⰰ 戀礀 瀀氀愀挀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 戀攀愀搀猀 琀漀 爀攀瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 昀氀漀眀攀爀猀Ⰰ 猀攀攀搀猀Ⰰഊberries, or bunches of grapes.  Leaves could be addes in applique.
਀ഊHertha
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਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䌀愀琀爀椀渀 昀攀爀挀栀 䴀愀攀氀最眀渀 㰀氀愀搀礀挀愀琀爀椀渀 愀琀 最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊDate: August 4, 2009 12:08:33 PM CDT
਀吀漀㨀 ∀䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 漀昀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 ⴀ 匀䌀䄀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀⸀∀ 㰀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Ansteorra] ISO sources for beadwork on garments
਀ഊYou might try this site:
਀ഊhttp://www.medievalbeads.com/ - lots of good stuff on the lefthand sidebar under "research images."
਀ഊ-Catrin ferch Maelgwn
਀ഊOn Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Castellana Donea <
਀挀愀猀琀攀氀氀愀渀愀⸀搀漀渀攀愀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ<<< I am trying to find sources and examples on beaded garments (Western Europe 1200-1500) If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appriciate any help.
਀ഊLady Castellana Donea >>>
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਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀漀渀愀氀攀攀 刀 䬀攀渀搀愀氀氀 㰀洀漀渀愀氀攀攀欀爀 愀琀 最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊDate: August 5, 2009 10:12:18 AM CDT
਀吀漀㨀 ∀䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 漀昀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 ⴀ 匀䌀䄀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀⸀∀ 㰀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Ansteorra] ISO sources for beadwork on garments
਀ഊThere are also some examples in the embroidery book in the Medieval Craftmen
਀猀攀爀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 椀渀 ∀䘀愀猀栀椀漀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䄀最攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䈀氀愀挀欀 倀爀椀渀挀攀∀ 戀漀漀欀⸀ഊ
਀䜀攀渀攀瘀椀攀瘀攀ഊ
਀伀渀 吀甀攀Ⰰ 䄀甀最 㐀Ⰰ ㈀　　㤀 愀琀 ㄀㄀㨀　　 䄀䴀Ⰰ 䌀愀猀琀攀氀氀愀渀愀 䐀漀渀攀愀 㰀ഊcastellana.donea at yahoo.com> wrote:
਀㰀㰀㰀 䤀 愀洀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 愀渀搀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀猀 漀渀 戀攀愀搀攀搀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀猀 ⠀圀攀猀琀攀爀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀ഊ1200-1500) If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appriciate any help.
਀ഊLady Castellana Donea >>>
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਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ戀攀愀搀眀漀爀欀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 ㄀㘀 漀昀 ㄀㘀ഊ
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