SCA-War-Xcuse-msg - 4/6/09 ਀ഊInteresting excuses given for SCA Wars. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: SCA-hist1-msg, border-stories-msg, Hst-SCA-Fence-art, SCA-stories1-msg, GW-history-msg, Hist-of-Birka-art, Estrella-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:12:03 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䔀氀愀椀渀攀 䬀漀漀最氀攀爀∀ 㰀欀椀爀椀搀漀渀漀 愀琀 最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Potrero War Welcome Potluck ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀伀甀爀 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 愀渀搀 漀甀爀 渀攀椀最栀戀漀爀猀 椀渀 匀琀漀爀瘀椀欀 栀愀搀 愀 眀愀爀 漀渀攀ഊyear...it was kind of silly, but lots of fun. The point of dissension was ਀琀栀攀 昀愀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 愀 琀漀眀渀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 唀瀀瀀攀爀 䴀愀爀氀戀漀爀漀 眀愀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀椀爀 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 愀渀搀 䰀漀眀攀爀ഊMarlboro was in ours. We claimed that they should cede Upper ਀䴀愀爀氀戀漀爀漀 猀漀 眀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 爀攀甀渀椀琀攀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀 䴀愀爀氀戀漀爀漀猀℀  嘀攀爀礀 猀椀氀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀䬀椀爀椀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:18:33 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 爀愀渀瘀愀椀最 愀琀 挀漀氀甀洀戀甀猀⸀爀爀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Potrero War Welcome Potluck ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀 伀甀爀 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 愀渀搀 漀甀爀 渀攀椀最栀戀漀爀猀 椀渀 匀琀漀爀瘀椀欀 栀愀搀 愀 眀愀爀 漀渀攀ഊ> year...it was kind of silly, but lots of fun. The point of dissension was ਀㸀 琀栀攀 昀愀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 愀 琀漀眀渀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 唀瀀瀀攀爀 䴀愀爀氀戀漀爀漀 眀愀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀椀爀 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 愀渀搀 䰀漀眀攀爀ഊ> Marlboro was in ours. We claimed that they should cede Upper ਀㸀 䴀愀爀氀戀漀爀漀 猀漀 眀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 爀攀甀渀椀琀攀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀 䴀愀爀氀戀漀爀漀猀℀  嘀攀爀礀 猀椀氀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀一漀 猀椀氀氀礀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀甀最最氀攀 琀栀愀琀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀⸀⸀  戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 䔀愀猀琀  ഊand the Middle to decide which kingdom that Pittsburgh was in.. the ਀氀漀漀猀椀渀最 猀椀搀攀 最漀琀 倀椀琀琀猀戀甀爀最栀⸀  伀爀 猀漀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 琀漀氀搀⸀ഊ ਀刀愀渀瘀愀椀最ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:56:15 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䌀愀猀猀愀渀搀爀愀 䈀愀氀搀愀猀猀愀渀漀∀ 㰀攀甀爀椀漀氀 愀琀 瀀琀搀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Potrero War Welcome Potluck ਀吀漀㨀 ∀✀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀✀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 氀漀猀椀渀最 猀椀搀攀 最漀琀 倀椀琀琀猀戀甀爀最栀 ⠀䈀愀爀漀渀礀 䴀愀爀挀栀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䐀攀戀愀琀愀戀氀攀  ഊLands) seems to lend credence to the name of the group. :) ਀ഊWhen I was out West the Province of Southern Shores and the Shire of Esfenn ਀栀愀搀 愀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 ⠀洀甀挀栀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 猀挀愀氀攀搀⤀ 眀愀爀 漀瘀攀爀 䴀椀氀椀瀀椀琀愀猀⸀ 匀漀 琀栀攀 氀漀猀椀渀最  ഊside was to get the SCA corporate office. ਀ഊEuriol of Lothian, OP ਀䴀椀渀椀猀琀攀爀 漀昀 䄀爀琀猀 ☀ 匀挀椀攀渀挀攀猀Ⰰ 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 䔀渀搀氀攀猀猀 䠀椀氀氀猀ഊClerk, Order of the Pelican, Kingdom of ?thelmearc ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀　　㠀 　㈀㨀㔀㌀㨀㐀㄀ ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: Stefan li Rous ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 猀椀氀氀礀 爀攀愀猀漀渀猀 昀漀爀 匀䌀䄀 眀愀爀猀ഊTo: SCA-Cooks maillist SCA-Cooks ਀ഊ> Sorry...my bad. Our Barony and our neighbors in Storvik had a war one ਀㸀 礀攀愀爀⸀⸀⸀椀琀 眀愀猀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 猀椀氀氀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 昀甀渀⸀  吀栀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀 搀椀猀猀攀渀猀椀漀渀 眀愀猀ഊ> the fact that a town called Upper Marlboro was in their Barony and Lower ਀㸀 䴀愀爀氀戀漀爀漀 眀愀猀 椀渀 漀甀爀猀⸀  圀攀 挀氀愀椀洀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 挀攀搀攀 唀瀀瀀攀爀 䴀愀爀氀戀漀爀漀 猀漀 眀攀ഊ> could reunite the two Marlboros! Very silly. ਀ഊNo silly than the struggle that started Pennsic.. between the East ਀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 琀漀 搀攀挀椀搀攀 眀栀椀挀栀 欀椀渀最搀漀洀 琀栀愀琀 倀椀琀琀猀戀甀爀最栀 眀愀猀 椀渀⸀⸀ 琀栀攀ഊloosing side got Pittsburgh. Or so I have been told. ਀ഊRanvaig >>> ਀ഊYes, that is one of the stories which has grown up around Pennsic. ਀䔀瘀攀渀 䴀愀猀琀攀爀 䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀 最椀瘀攀猀 琀眀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 猀琀漀爀椀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 爀攀愀氀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊthe one that makes the better story. You can find both of them in the ਀䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 爀椀最栀琀 渀漀眀 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 椀渀ഊthe Pennsic history file, the Pennsic stories file or one of the SCA ਀猀琀漀爀礀 昀椀氀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀唀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀Ⰰ 渀漀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 眀栀愀琀 瀀爀攀挀愀甀琀椀漀渀猀 礀漀甀 琀愀欀攀 琀漀 挀漀洀攀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 愀ഊsilly reason for a war, someone is likely to forget it is just in fun ਀愀渀搀 最攀琀 琀漀漀 猀攀爀椀漀甀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀琀⸀ 䨀甀猀琀 愀昀琀攀爀 䤀 樀漀椀渀攀搀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀Ⰰ 愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀㠀ഊor 19 years ago, there was a war between the Barony of Bryn Gwlad and ਀琀栀攀 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀琀攀瀀瀀攀猀 椀渀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 漀瘀攀爀 洀甀猀琀愀挀栀攀猀Ⰰ 挀愀氀氀攀搀 琀栀攀ഊMustache War. The creators of this war chose that since they figured ਀渀漀 漀渀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀愀欀攀 椀琀 猀攀爀椀漀甀猀氀礀 愀渀搀 昀漀爀最攀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 椀渀 昀甀渀⸀ 䘀爀漀洀 愀ഊrecent message on this war from the guy who was baron at that time: ਀∀䤀琀 眀愀猀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀氀礀 愀戀漀甀琀 䐀漀渀 䈀氀愀礀渀攀✀猀 洀甀猀琀愀挀栀攀Ⰰ 礀愀 欀渀漀眀⸀ 䠀攀 栀愀搀 琀栀愀琀ഊmagnificent handlebar that Robin said infringed on his badge. My ਀栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀愀戀氀攀 洀甀猀琀愀挀栀攀 眀愀猀 樀甀猀琀 椀挀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀欀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 刀漀戀椀渀ഊexpanded his "attack" to include all the mustaches of Bryn Gwlad. ਀⠀䄀渀搀 礀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 攀砀挀栀愀渀最攀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 戀攀氀漀眀 搀椀搀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 漀渀挀攀 愀昀琀攀爀ഊwar had become inevitable, although I doubt anyone remembers the ਀愀挀琀甀愀氀 眀漀爀搀猀 甀猀攀搀⸀ 䈀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 挀氀漀猀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䌀䌀 挀漀漀欀椀攀猀 眀攀爀攀渀✀琀 漀渀氀礀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀稀攀 ⴀⴀ 眀椀渀渀攀爀 琀愀欀攀 愀氀氀 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 眀攀ഊshared with the losers of course -- but also the coin of choice for ਀栀椀爀椀渀最 洀攀爀挀攀渀愀爀椀攀猀⸀ 䈀爀礀渀 䜀眀氀愀搀 栀愀搀 戀愀爀爀攀氀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䰀椀琀攀爀愀氀氀礀 戀愀爀爀攀氀猀⸀∀ഊ ਀唀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀愀搀攀琀猀 栀愀搀 愀 䐀漀渀 眀栀漀 氀椀瘀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀ഊbarony and decided to fight with his Don rather than with his barony. ਀䄀 氀漀琀 漀昀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 最漀琀 甀瀀猀攀琀 愀渀搀 琀甀爀渀攀搀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀 琀栀椀猀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀渀搀 愀ഊnumber of nasty things were said and accusations thrown around about ਀氀漀礀愀氀琀礀 愀渀搀 猀甀挀栀⸀ഊ ਀䈀甀琀 琀栀攀渀 椀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 䤀✀瘀攀 栀攀愀爀搀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 愀挀挀甀猀愀琀椀漀渀猀 琀栀爀漀眀渀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀戀漀甀琀ഊloyalty and such in regards to the fiasco in Iraq in the last couple ਀漀昀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀 最甀攀猀猀 渀漀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 眀栀愀琀 猀椀氀氀礀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 礀漀甀 挀漀洀攀 甀瀀ഊwith for a war it is likely to lead to accusations of lying and lack ਀漀昀 氀漀礀愀氀琀礀 愀渀搀 戀椀琀琀攀爀 昀攀攀氀椀渀最猀⸀ഊ ਀匀琀攀昀愀渀ഊ-------- ਀吀䠀䰀漀爀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀 氀椀 刀漀甀猀    䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 䈀爀礀渀 䜀眀氀愀搀    䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 漀昀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀ഊ Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ匀䌀䄀ⴀ圀愀爀ⴀ堀挀甀猀攀ⴀ愀爀琀ऀ倀愀最攀 ㌀ 漀昀 ㌀ഊ ਊ