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Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. \par \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\s21\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid14224992 \rtlch\fcs1 \af6\afs20\alang1033 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\lang1033\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp1033\langfenp1033 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid14224992\charrsid14224992 This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid14224992 \rtlch\fcs1 \af7\afs24\alang1033 \ltrch\fcs0 \f7\fs24\lang1033\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp1033\langfenp1033 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid14224992\charrsid14224992 \par I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. \par \par The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. \par \par Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). \par \par Thank you, \par Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous \par Stefan at florilegium.org \par ************************************************************************ \par \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par From: mcnutt at gateway.ce.utk.edu Bill McNutt \par Subject: Re: Qustion about court rules \par Organization: University of Tennessee \par Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 20:06:51 GMT \par \par In article <1994Apr20.223219.5604 at blaze.trentu.ca>, jbeltzner at TrentU.CA (Jonathan Beltzner) says: \par >>Side track - I'm a Baron in the Middle Kingdom. Some reign, after I have \par >>explicitly sworn fealty to the Crown, in some other court, I'm tempted \par >>to arrange to be called into court and appear with every knife, sword, \par >>and whatnot I own or can borrow and see what the royal guards do. Surely \par >>the king trusts his liegemen? \par \par We had that happen at a Meridian royal court *ahem*-*cough* years ago. \par The King in question grinned evilly and called for the Sword of State, which \par he drew and placed across his knees for the duration of the audience. \par \par ....And much schtick was had by all. \par \par \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par From: MCNUTT at gateway.ce.utk.edu (Bill McNutt) \par Subject: Re: WHole States as Baronies How to Measure \par Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education \par Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 19:15:01 GMT \par \par In article <772903832.AA02159 at interphase.com.uucp> Bettina.Helms at f38.n112.z1.interphase.com (Bettina Helms) writes: \par >The "ETC" is an East-Kingdom way of saying "and too many other awards to \par >bother listing here". It's usually applied to anyone who has at least \par >five sets of alphabet soup after his/her name. (I think, but am not \par >sure, that it started in Carolingia and spread - like the dreaded Cloved \par >Lemons, which strictly speaking started in the Canton of the Towers, \par >which is *part of* the Barony of Carolingia....) \par \par Meridies used to award the Order of the Ordered Orders. You quailfied if you \par had (I think) more than 25 letters after your name. \par \par \par From: Lee.Cavett at dobharchu.org (Lee Cavett) \par To: ansteorra at eden.com \par Organization: Lough na Dobharchu' BBS - League City, TX \par Date: 01 Mar 96 13:25:26 -0600 \par Subject: Re:KbSca? \par \par Lorraine writes: \par >ted 96-02-29 03:10:39 EST, you write: \par > \par >>>KbSCA was an unofficial recognition created for \par >>>Starhelm and only Starhelm. \par >>>It is recognized by the Meridian knights and the \par >>>Kingdom, but, has no \par >>>"official" standing outside of the Kingdom. \par > \par >Then is he recognized as a knight in the rest of \par >the Society or only in Meridies? I'm a bit confused... \par > \par >Moriel^^^ \par \par l> He is recognized a Knight but probably because some political fracus \par l> was given this designation in Meridies. If you look in our OP you will \par l> see he is listed as a Knight. \par \par l> Lorraine \par \par Political/Personal - Sir Starhelm cannot/will not swear personal fealty to a \par King/Queen for personal reasons (which are *personal*, so don't ask me what \par they are - if I knew I still wouldn't discuss it, but I don't know, so don't \par ask me). The Meridians decided that he greatly deserved knighthood, but \par aparrently have a long-standing tradition of not making Masters of Arms. The \par Knight Bachelor was a compromise allowing a deserved award to be given without \par either forcing Starhelm to deviate from his position on personal fealty *or* \par forcing His then-Majesty of Meridies to deviate from Kingdom tradition/politics \par - while saving face on both sides. It is, I may note, an elegant compromise \par which is also period in application (with the usual disclaimer about times and \par cultures). An example that some others might do well to follow, \par considering recent converstion on the Rialto. BTW, as mentioned in an earlier \par post, Sir Starhelm *does* swear an oath of service and loyalty to the *Kingdom* \par of Meridies. \par Just my two bits ( two cents won't even buy Chiclets anymore..) \par \par Donal O Dochartaigh \par \par \par From: "David L. Backlin" \par Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 20:12:03 -0500 (CDT) \par Subject: Re: SCA near Rice University? (fwd) \par \par > >I know there are other groups scattered around the Kingdom that have a \par > >definable starting point, and probably a charismatic leader, a household \par > >affiliation, or a gaming group. \par > > \par > >What I would like to know, is what was it about these origins that these \par > >people have in common? Is it only a statisical percentage of the total \par > >groups that stayed active at such a high level? Or was there something else? \par \par Greetings unto the peoples of Ansteorra! \par \par This missive was sent to me by another individual who asked me to explain \par the origins of our home Shire. \par \par The Shire-March of the Grimfells (Fayetteville, AR) was founded in the \par Summer of 1978 by Lord Erich Hlodowechssun (now Herro Erich, I believe) \par who brought the concept to this are from the Barony of Three Rivers. \par \par I myself joined late in the Fall of that year. I can recall approximately \par eight other individuals who belonged at the time. Of them, I am the sole \par remaining member. Most have scattered to other corners of the Known World \par and a couple have simply dropped out or "disappeared". One member, Squire \par Adrian of Castle Lori (Squire to Sir John of Outman in Meridies), has \par sadly passed from this realm. \par \par Many have come and gone over the years... so many it is hard to remember \par them all. One individual who joined approximately a year after I did has \par gone on to make a name for himself in Calontir... that being Baron Master \par Master Pavel Iosevich. Master Pavel, his wife Countess Fiona nic Allisdar, \par and myself are the only ones who have remained with Grimfells over the \par years. \par \par In the beginning, many of us were gamers and most of us played the \par Cal-Tech mutation of D&D. Over the years however, many (including myself) \par have quit gaming while others have continued and some have left the SCA to \par devote more attention to gaming. There is some crossover between the \par groups, but not as much as there once was. \par \par As an aside to this, many people have asked over the years: "why is \par Grimfells in Calontir and not Merieies?" The answer is complicated, yet \par simple. When Grimfells was founded, there were no other groups in \par Arkansas. The closest group in Meridies was Grey Niche (Memphis), but \par there were several groups in the then Region of Calontir that were even \par closer (Forgotten Sea, Standing Stones, Three Rivers, and a couple \par others). We therefore requested that our Shire be declared part of the \par Middle Kingdom. It was not an easy decision to make on anyone's part. \par Later, when Calontir became a Kingdom in it's own right, Grimfells was \par included. \par \par Since those "bygone days of yesteryear", Grimfells has spawned its own \par progeny in the form of the Shire of Smythkepe (Ft. Smith, AR). This group \par was formed by four wayward Grimfells folk: Master William Claibourne (aka \par Thomas Axehand, aka Thomas the Procurer), one of the original members of \par Grimfells; his lady wife, Mistress Arianna (sp?) of Perry; Lord Dylan \par Smallwood of Somerset; and a fourth individual whose name escapes me \par (occasionally referred to as the "invisible founder"). \par \par Smythkepe survives to this day, though its founders have also scattered to \par far corners of the Known World. Smythkepe, too, has spawned progeny, but \par that, good gentles, is a story for another day. \par \par Your in service (and reminiscence), \par \par Lord Edrei the Quiet \par Shire-March of the Grimfells \par Kingdom of Calontir \par \par dbackli at comp.uark.edu \par \par \par From: "Matthew R. Popalisky" \par Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 22:04:13 -0500 (CDT) \par Subject: Re: SCA near Rice University? \par \par On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Vicki Marsh wrote: \par \par > It would be an interesting SCA anthropological question to see who started \par > with what core group and where. \par > \par > I know there are other groups scattered around the Kingdom that have a \par > definable starting point, and probably a charismatic leader, a household \par > affiliation, or a gaming group. \par > \par > Zahra Zena \par \par I apologise for answering for Lord Edrei the Quiet of Grimfells, but he's \par not here... \par \par Edrei der Nass joined at the beginnings of Grimfells back when we were a part of the Midrealm, but maybe that was Meridies, but no one was too sure then (something like 20 years ago), including the BoD. He would change his name to Edrei the Quiet, and he lp found Smythkepe down in Meridies (as the 727 area code was declared to be part of the northern kingdom). He still plays with both shires to this day, and has given great service towards the dream with his PR \par abilities. People may not always notice him, but I am proud to call him friend and greatly admire what he has done and currently does to forward the Society. \par \par Lady Kateryn Heathrydge. \par \par \par From: CZimSabas at aol.com (9/11/96) \par To: markh at risc.sps.mot.com \par Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:22:39 -0400 \par Subject: Re: Meridien Kings List \par \par Milord Stefan, \par \par Well met! \par Here's that list of Meridian Kings. \par \par It came to me from the very gracious Cathal Mac Edan, of South Downs, \par Meridies, a retired Precedence Herald who had never been consulted for such a \par purpose. ;-) \par \par Lord Cathal noted that all were knighted before becoming king with \par the exception of Kane Redfeather. Also, subsequent reigns must not \par have been listed, as "Duke Kane" is only mentioned once. \par \par I hope this is helpful! \par \par John the Bearkiller \par Orlando Cavalcanti \par Francois du Vant \par Beorn Loellen-ferth \par Cedric fils de Guillaume \par Roderick Level-lance of Rampart \par Wolfgang Surgoth \par Lawrence of Ashana \par Aaron Breck Gordon \par Kane Redfeather \par Ciarri Mac Braonin \par Richard of Raefen \par Ryan von Gunther \par Stephen Wolf \par Micheal Bohun \par Hadi the Aspiring \par Brian Mac Brand \par Boru Aelwyn \par Gareth le Druin \par Richard de Chinon \par Bryce Mac Laren \par \par Bye! \par Ellen the Bright \par \par \par From: "Mitchell, Paul" \par To: 'ansteorra at eden.com' \par Date: Fri, 20 Sep 96 15:12:00 EDT \par Subject: RE: Principalities: "baby steps" Proposal (l \par \par When I joined in Meridies in 1979, it had three regions: the Regions of Aphar, \par Lair of the Phoenix, and Trimaris. (Remember the verse in Cipriano's "Lord Charlie", also known as "The Man Who Never Re turned": "His first event was down in Trimaris/ Or perhaps it was Aphar". This was written when both were regions.) Later Aphar and Lair of the Phoenix were dissolved in favor of alphabetical administrative groupings: groups beginning with A-G, H-R, an d S-Z, in order to eliminate artificial loyalties which were threatening to splinter the Kingdom. Trimaris was left intact as they were hoping to seek principality status soon after. \par \par - Galen of Bristol \par MITCHELL at dallas.genphysics.com \par \par \par Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:10:25 -0600 \par From: "Boogie" \par Subject: Re: SC - Interkingdom Anthropology?? \par \par > From: Philip & Susan Troy \par > Doesn't Meridies have an award/order known as the Grand Chef (or \par > something along those lines)? This was vaguely described to me years \par > ago, and one of the requirements, as I recall, was a wide spectrum of \par > cooking styles and time periods. While not real specific, it suggests to \par > me that a fairish amount of research would be called for, and therefore \par > one could justify cookery, at least to some extent, as an art rather \par > than a service. Or in addition to... . \par > \par > Adamantius, Cooking Laurel\u8482\'aa (void where prohibited, offer not good after \par > curfew in sectors R or N) \par > \u216\'afstgardr, East \par \par I believe the Grand Chef is only a title carrying no precedence or other \par recognition with it other than the admiration of those of us who fear we \par will never but up to its challenge. It is an event feast that requires 26 \par different dishes from a certain number of cultures and periods served to \par the High Table which is a panel of Grand Chefs who judge the feast; only 17 \par items are required to be served to the populace. Yes, Ras, documentation \par is required. While the Grand Chef candidate does not have to personally \par prepare each dish, they must oversee the preparation of each dish and how \par it is presented. I am fortunate enough to know several Grand Chefs and to \par have served as kitchen slave at one such feast (yes, the candidate earned \par her title as well as her nervous breakdown). \par \par \par Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:05:31 PST \par From: "Penny" \par Subject: Re: SC - Interkingdom Anthropology?? \par \par Boogie -- you're right about the Grand Chef info, except that there are only \par 21 dishes required. Seven different cultures are required, and a soulety or \par illusion food is suggested, but not required. \par \par The candidate must personally season each dish as well. \par \par Tipperith \par (who just completed a Grand Chef Feast, sans the nervous breakdown) \par \par \par Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:48:39 -0500 \par From: mermayde at juno.com (Christine A Seelye-King) \par Subject: SC - Meridies' Grand Chef \par \par >Doesn't Meridies have an award/order known as the Grand Chef (or \par >something along those lines)? This was vaguely described to me years \par >ago, and one of the requirements, as I recall, was a wide spectrum of \par >cooking styles and time periods. While not real specific, it suggests \par >to me that a fairish amount of research would be called for, and \par >therefore one could justify cookery, at least to some extent, as an art \par >rather than a service. Or in addition to... . \par > \par >Adamantius, Cooking Laurel\u8482\'aa (void where prohibited, offer not good \par >after curfew in sectors R or N) \par \par \par Boogie -- you're right about the Grand Chef info, except that there are \par only 21 dishes required. Seven different cultures are required, and a \par soulety or illusion food is suggested, but not required. \par The candidate must personally season each dish as well. \par Tipperith \par (who just completed a Grand Chef Feast, sans the nervous breakdown) \par \par The Grand Chef feast was created many years ago by Sir Robert Hightower, \par a wonderful cook and hell-of-a-nice guy. Since then, many others have \par decided to try their hand at accomplishing this feat, and certain rules \par and guidlines have been set down for it. It is not an official order or \par award, folks just do it because they want to, and are judged by others \par that have gone before them and been successful. (Yes, there have been a \par few that failed.) By all accounts, Mistress Tippereth's recent feast was \par most wonderful. \par Mistress Christianna MacGrain \par \par \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\s19\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid14224992 \rtlch\fcs1 \af2\afs20\alang1033 \ltrch\fcs0 \f2\fs20\lang1033\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp1033\langfenp1033 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\insrsid14224992\charrsid14224992 From: "Connie Carroll" \par To: \par Subject: RE: ANST - SCA PEERS \par Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:37:30 -0400 \par \par [From a discussion about Kings being knighted after winning Crown - Stefan] \par \par Meridies has 2. Duke Kane was knighted sometime after his second reign while \par Duke Ryan was knighted shortly after he won Crown Tourney for the second \par time. \par \par Kassandra \par 'Bunny' \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid14224992 \rtlch\fcs1 \af7\afs24\alang1033 \ltrch\fcs0 \f7\fs24\lang1033\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp1033\langfenp1033 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid14224992\charrsid14224992 \par \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\s19\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid14224992 \rtlch\fcs1 \af2\afs20\alang1033 \ltrch\fcs0 \f2\fs20\lang1033\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp1033\langfenp1033 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \loch\af6\hich\af6\dbch\af15\insrsid14224992\charrsid14224992 \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:47:14 -0400 \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 From: Christine A Seelye-King \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Subject: Re: SC - other names for cola \par \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 > Actually, the reason that we specifically label Coca-Cola as 'South \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 > Downs Ale' is b\hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 ecause Coca-Cola headquarters are here in Atlanta, so \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 > 'South Downs Ale' actually originates here in South Downs. ;-) \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 > \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 > I remain, in service to Meridies, \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 > Lady Celia des L'archier \par \par \tab \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 And all of that started with a group of folks in Caid who were giving \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Coca-Cola as a prize for their tourney. They wanted to know what the \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 name of the group in Atlanta was, as it was the home-town of Coke, and \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 coined the phrase for their event. We did no\hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 t find out about it until \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 some time later, but we liked it a lot when we did hear about it. We \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 have since had tourneys by the same name. \par \par \tab \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Mistress Christianna \par \tab \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Barony of the South Downs \par \par \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT) \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 From: Pat \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: Creative Supplimentation \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 To: SCA Cooks \par \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 I started in the SCA in Atenveldt (Greater Phoenix, AZ). There are \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 three baronies, a College, and a Shire all within an hours drive, but \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 the res\hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 t of the Kingdom is spread out over a huge area. (There are \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 nearly 5 million people in Arizona, but 3 million of them live in the GPA). \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Weekend camping events are the norm. A few of the larger summer time \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 events are held in Halls, with no camping (ev\hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 er try sleeping in a tent \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 when the midnight temperature is over 100 degrees F.?) The camping \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 events seemed to be about 50/50 with feasts, and the Hall events all \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 had feasts. Sometimes the camping feasts were included with the site \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 fee, the Hall events very seldom included feast with the site fee. \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Because Atenveldt is a predominantly urban population, supplementing \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 with wild game or home grown vegetables was seldom done, although \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 locally grown lamb has been used. \par \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 I moved to Meri\hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 dies two years ago. My biggest culture shock was \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 finding that weekend events here almost always include cabins, and \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 people are reluctant to attend camping events in more primitive \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 settings where cabins are not available. How can cement block cabins\hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 and swimming pools onsite add to the Medieval atmosphere? Also, the \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 population is much more spread out, and one does not get the \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 opportunity to fraternize with royalty that one experiences in \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Atenveldt. \par \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Pat Griffin \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Lady Anne du Bosc \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 known as Mor\hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 donna the Cook \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Shire of Thorngill, Meridies \par \hich\af6\dbch\af15\loch\f6 Mundanely, Millbrook, AL \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid14224992 \rtlch\fcs1 \af7\afs24\alang1033 \ltrch\fcs0 \f7\fs24\lang1033\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp1033\langfenp1033 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid13069463\charrsid14224992 \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid13069463 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid13069463\charrsid13069463 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:05:03 -0400 \par From: \par Subject: [Sca-cooks] IKA - Royalty Changeover, was: head table \par \tab seating? \par To: "Cooks within the SCA" \par \par >>> \par Another interesting inter-kingdom difference is the way Royalty change. \par Some years ago, I was horrified when the Mists Royalty changed in a hostle \par takeover! I was told that in other Kingdoms this was normal!?! Well, I \par have since experienced a stabbed and dying Prince give the Principality to \par his heir and a Prince who decide to become a monk. Personally, I much \par prefer the joyful and regal transfer of Crowns and Coronets to the heirs. \par Many HAPPY tears. And why, I ask, did all the examples above happen \par in the Principality of the Mists? \par \par Viscountess Katira \par proud defender of the West and Western traditions \par <<< \par \par That may have started with us, actually. Meridies has practiced various \par forms of Regicide since the beginning, although it isn't always bloody. \par Sometimes they go off on Crusade (and then sometimes their lady will go into \par a Convent), we've had them grow old through the last Court and then pass \par away, we've had them step down because the Stone of Scone no longer screamed \par for them. One time they were taken off by fairies, but we try not to talk \par about that one much. \par \par I've seen the reactions on the faces of visitors from other Kingdoms. It is \par usually a combination of horror and fascination, followed by "How \par awful...tell me more!". \par \par We like our little theatrics, what can I say? \par \par Christianna \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid942111 \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid942111 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid942111\charrsid942111 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:57:04 -0700 \par From: "Lady Celia" \par Subject: [Sca-cooks] Offboard/Onboard/court bored? (was RE: Vegetarian \par \tab &\tab Vegans was Re: lethal drinks) \par To: "'Cooks within the SCA'" \par \par Gosh... I remember the old days when the feast was part of the event fee. \par At least that's what was customary in Meridies when I lived there. Of \par course, in the Southeast, we have good access to lots of inexpensive group \par camping sites, so weekend events are the norm (or were - has that changed?) \par from May through November. \par \par So I'm just curious if things are ever still done that way (and where folks \par are at when they're answering)... are there still places which just simply \par have a Fri-Sun (or even Fri-Mon on holiday weekends) event where the feast \par is just included in the event cost? \par \par Celia (whose been out of things for a long while) \par \par To: gleannabhann}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid942111 at }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid942111\charrsid942111 yahoogroups.com \par Subject: Re: possible site \par Posted by: "Gilbert Head" eghead}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid942111 at }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid942111\charrsid942111 uga.edu eghead2002 \par Date: Wed Dec 9, 2009 7:03 am ((PST)) \par \par For those of you into ancient history, it was also the place where John the Bearkiller won the first Crown List for what would become the Kingdom of Meridies..... \par \par AEdward \par \par ----- Original Message ----- \par From: Barbara Easley \par <<< Wall Doxey is a beautiful park set just below Holly Springs, MS., just off US HI 78, down State highway 6 (towards Oxford). They have an enormous lake, pool, tons of camping, open spaces, and RV pads. We haven't used this site for years in the Niche, but it is a great place; we'v e camped there mundanely some. They have pavillions and shower houses, and it is in good shape. They have a commercial kitchen/feasthall, but last I heard it wasn't open to let any except Park Staff in to cook... and that was a Loooong time ago. Might have changed. \par \par One could have a large event here with no trouble, as long as there wasn't a need for a kitchen to cook the feast in. (Who needs a kitchen, anyway? We *are* medieval, no?) \par \par Beautiful, lots and lots of shade, quiet and easy to get to. Close to W al-Mart, hotels, medical, shopping, sight-seeing, and fast food nirvana (A GREAT Chinese buffet, Sonic, Mickey Dees, Wendy's and Popeyes, to name a few.) It's about 50 miles form Memphis. \par \par BTW, the fishing is AWESOME!! 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