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Histories of the SCA kingdom of Ealdormere.


NOTE: See also the files: Middle-hist-msg, placenames-msg, SCA-hist1-msg, East-hist-msg, vanity-plates-msg, you-know-msg, SCA-stories1-msg.





This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday.


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    Mark S. Harris                  AKA:  THLord Stefan li Rous

                                          Stefan at florilegium.org



Subject: ANST - fwd: Kingdom of Ealdormere

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 09:51:23 MST

From: "Alan J. Boertjens" <a-boertjens1 at ti.com>


For those who are getting this twice (as I'm forwarding it to a couple of

different lists), sorry...but hey, cool news should be heard twice :-)





Original text


From: Matt Dragonfly Drury <matt at compuserve.com>, on 1/19/98 10:31 AM:

To: trimaris at trimaris.com

Sb: Kingdom of Ealdormere


In case you missed it, the Principality of Ealdormere, late of the Kingdom of

the Middle, has been given official sanction (unanimous vote) by the BOD to

become a KINGDOM.  Kingdom Law has been changed to allow for an early Crown

tourney, on April 4, 1998.


Lord Gunnar


Chronicler/Pursuivant/Web Minister

Canton of Vest Yorvik

Barony of Septentria




Subject: BG - principalities else where..

Date: Tue, 09 Jun 98 08:38:40 MST

From: Carey <carey at shield.com>

To: southern at Ansteorra.ORG

CC: "BG:" <bryn-gwlad at Ansteorra.ORG>


I thought that some of us might find this letter interesting..



>> Hello, I am Connor mac Clure and I live in Ansteorra (TX.)


>>  I want to know what a principality is like as we here in the southern

>> region are seriously talking about it....history files and others there

>> in your area that would like to send me their thoughts, that would be

>> great!     Thanks....Key Connor


Susan Carroll-Clark wrote:

> First thing, go visit www.ealdormere.midrealm.org. That's our Principality

> web page, and there's a fair number of resources there you can look at,

> including the short history I  did for the Kingdom bid, descriptions of our

> awards, and that kind of thing.


> I can tell you a little why we chose that route.  I think it was in the back

> of the mind of the first group members up here to someday have a Northern

> Kingdom.  Round about 1986 or so, we decided to select a regional

> champion--this is the route Calontir had taken towards becoming a kingdom

> some years before.  But things had changed;  the Middle Kingdom decided that

> regions could not have champions or even names.  This was decided without

> consulting us here in Ealdormere, so we felt crushed. However, two years

> later, we became a Crown Principality (that's a principality in name, but

> without Royalty) and about 2 1/2 years after that, in 1990, we advanced to

> full Principality status.  Last January, we were approved to advance to

> Kingdom status, which we will do next October.


> One of the driving reasons why we became a Principality was the size of the

> Middle Kingdom.  It's huge.  We also thought we had a somewhat different

> culture here (being all Canadians, for one thing, and tending towards lots

> of smaller groups instead of fewer huge groups).  We also, as I mentioned,

> wanted to see our own folks as Royalty--the King and Queen were people we

> saw once a reign, if we were lucky, at that point.


> I guess what you need to make a Principality work is the desire to make it

> work.  You have to have officers willing to run it and the imagination to

> turn it into what you want it to be (whether that be a permanent

> Principality which never leaves your Kingdom, or its own Kingdom someday).


> Nicolaa de Bracton



From: tmcd at panix.com (Tim McDaniel)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Trimaran Crown List Cancelled

Date: 2 Sep 2004 20:56:49 -0500


Richard Macdonald <rmacdonald at verizon.net> forwarded:

> My apologies, to those that receive this more than once. [Trimaran]

> Crown List has been Canceled.


That really blows.


> It will be rescheduled for Oct. 8-10 during Village Faire at camp

> Ocala.


If any Trimarian muckety-muck happens to be reading this ... OK, I'll

Google Trimaris's Web page and CC the kingdom seneschal ... you might

want to keep in mind Corpora IV.A.1:


    Royal Lists must be conducted at a tournament announced in the

    kingdom newsletter as being for that purpose.


I remember when Ealdormere's principality tourney had to be scheduled

or re-scheduled at the last minute.  They sent a postcard to every

subscriber of _The Pale_: the back had the date, place, occasion, and

a few other details, whatever could fit in the top half of a postcard.

The bottom half had something like "This is an extraordinary edition

of The Pale ..." followed by all the usual boilerplate (subscriptions

are available via, copyright, all that).  It was the smallest SCA

newsletter I've ever seen.


Daniel de Lincolia


Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com



Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:39:14 -0400

From: "Micyalah" <dy018 at freenet.carleton.ca>

Subect: RE: [Sca-cooks] How meals are served in period

To: "'Cooks within the SCA'" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>


>> Recently I noticed a feast that was served apparently an item at a time,

>> not in "courses/removes" and was done really really well.


Here in Ealdormere this was de rigueur for feasts for years. Unfortunately

because this takes inordinate amounts of time, feasts fell somewhat out of

favour forother than diehard feast goers. A few years ago a bunch of us

decided that while this progress of a meal was documentable, it really

didn't fit into the day at an event, at every event. It is a rare feast now

that comes out in dribs and drabs, a practice which I always hated and have

never done myself. Although doing shtick with a dish is still one of my

favorite things.




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