Aten-hist-msg - 9/6/08 Histories of the SCA Kingdom of Atenveldt. NOTE: See also the files: Aten-hist-art, child-stories-msg, SCA-hist1-msg, Hst-SCA-Fence-art, SCA-stories1-msg, vanity-plates-msg, you-know-msg, The-Society-art. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ From: Ioseph Subj: Atenveldt History Part 1 Date: 23 Nov 91 A SHORT HISTORICAL OUTLINE OF THE KINGDOM OF ATENVELDT ------------------------------------------------------ GENERAL SCA PRE-HISTORY: The SCA started on 1 May, 1966. The first knight of the SCA (David the Herald) was dubbed by Siegfried von Hoefflichkeit at this event. On 25 March, 1967, Fulk de Wyvern dubbed Henrik of Havn a knight, and crowned him the first King in the SCA. The rank of Duke was created on 6 January, 1968, along with the Order of the Rose, the Order of the Laurel, and MSCA. On 21 July, 1968, the first King of the East, Bruce of Cloves, was crowned. The SCA was officially incorporated on 4 Oct., 1968. On 4 January, 1969, Grants of Arms, Awards of Arms, and Court Barons were created by King Caradoc (ap Cador) of the West. On 4-6 July, 1969, the first Crown Tourney of the Middle Kingdom was held. Their first Coronation was on 7 Sept. 1969, with Cariadoc of the Bow their first King. (He later became King of the East, after being King of the Middle and declaring War on the East, thus declaring war on himself, and starting Pennsic War). Ioseph of Locksley and Richard Ironsteed join the SCA, at Santa Barbara WesterCon. On 22 October, 1972, the Order of the Pelican was created. It was released to the giving of individual Kingdoms on 9 July 1974. In May of AS XXV, the SCA became a recognized sub-culture, with the accession of Sir Stephan of Bellatrix, son of Duke Paul of Bellatrix, to the Throne of the West. ATENVELDT HISTORY: The first Tourney was held on 7 December, 1969, at McCormick Ranch Park in Scottsdale, and the second Tourney, which chose the first Prince of the Principality of Atenveldt (now the Sun) was held at the same location on February 22, 1970. The BoD voted us a Kingdom on 19 April, 1970, giving us Caerthe and the branch in New Orleans, and the whole Southern USA to the Atlantic Ocean. The official "Kingdom Day" is 18 January. "Atenveldt" was a Principality first, and there is some arguement as to when or if it ever was a Barony. Robert Roundpounder was the first Prince. ----------------------------------------------------------- The Kingdom of Atenveldt was founded and built -primarily- by: Michael of Moria Deaton Claymore Richard Ironsteed Care-Cheri of the Fallen Stars Ivan du Grey (of Navarette) Denis of the Titans Ioseph of Locksley William of the Shire ----------------------------------------------------------- The Barony Of Atenveldt was founded by: Michael of Moria and Richard Ironsteed The March of Ered Sul was founded by: Perigrine Mellyrn of the Last Mountain The Barony of Tyr Ysgithyr was founded by: Rodema de Rohan The Barony-March of Mons Tinitrus was founded by: The Barony of SunDragon was founded by: Alys Carvelsdottir and Mary Margaret of Derby The Barony of Loch Salann was founded by: The Barony of 1000 Eyes was founded by: ----------------------------------------------------------- The following Kingdoms of the SCA came out of Atenveldt: Atenveldt Meridies Atlantia Trimaris Ansteorra Outlands ----------------------------------------------------------- ACTIVE PREMIERS OF THE PEERAGE: Premier Chevalier: Johnathan of Whytewolfe Laurel: Ioseph of Locksley Pelican: Denis of the Titans ----------------------------------------------------------- The Crown of Atenveldt can be traced most easily by the "dynasty" system. These were, in order (so far): Weldon House Crusadenes Outlands Regency Trelon/Brion Brion/Thorfinn ----------------------------------------------------------- THE ROLL OF PRINCES AND PRINCESSES OF ATENVELDT Robert I and Katrin 04/12/70 AS IV to 06/21/70 AS V Robert Roundpounder, the first Prince of Atenveldt, crowned himself as Prince, saying that he had won it with his hands and prowess, and nobody else had the right to give him what -he- had won by "right of arms." This tradition was continued in this Kingdom, and written into first Kingdom Law. The Principality established the Order of Light, a general Service/Arts award for the Principality of Atenveldt. This was the first local Order in the SCA...and we were the first -Principality- in the SCA, too....we went on to establish many precedents for the SCA, some good...and some not so good. One person has quipped: "Atenveldt exists so the Board of Directors has something to keep them occupied...." Robert only had one real problem as Prince....if a Dallas Cowboys game was on TV, the WORLD STOPPED while he watched the game. He wrote very good poetry, too. Establishment of the "Locksley Monsters." First two were Sir Carole the Grim and Sir Dale the Small (dsd). Arthur I and Angela 06/21/70 AS V to 10/21/70 AS V It was right around in here that William of the Shire built a Viking longboat. It was about 25 feet long, with a sail. We took it out on Lake Pleasant, in a VERY brisk wind, and it damn near out ran the (motor powered) MCSO boat......the Sheriff's thought it was GREAT, but asked us to get it registered..... Robert II and Kathleen I 10/21/70 AS V to 01/16/71 AS V William of the Shire made mead. It was -very- good mead, tho it had a bad habit of escaping from the bottles and crawling across the floor of his kitchen. He would strain it thru an old sock. We never asked if he had washed the sock first or not. One post-revel, as we were cleaning up the Hall, a Lady that later became Michael of Moria's second wife was sitting on one of the tables with a rather far-away look about her. I asked her if anything was wrong, and she looked at me with great limpid eyes (she had KILLER eyes anyway) and said, in a -very- tiny voice: "I have a brick in my head." Then she fell over. (Note: The Crown Prince/ess of the Kingdom ruled as Prince and Princess from 01/16/71 until Post-Regency.) THE ROLL OF THE CORONETS OF THE PRINCIPALITY OF THE SUN (renaming of the Princip. of Atenveldt as Princip. of the Sun and re-establishment of the Prince and Princess of the Sun) Ivan and Kathleen IV 01-06-77 AS XI to 05-07-77 AS XII Thomas I and Anastasia I 05-07-77 AS XII to 11-05-77 AS XII Denis II and Trude I 11-05-77 AS XII to 06-11-78 AS XIII Amayot and Kerensa 06-11-78 AS XIII to 12-10-78 AS XIII Denis III and Trude II 12-10-78 AS XIII to 06-02-79 AS XIV Nicholas and Frances 06-02-79 AS XIV to 11-17-79 AS XIV Justin I and Victoria I 11-12-79 AS XIV to 04-12-80 AS XIV Roger and Elwyn 04-12-80 AS XIV to 11-08-80 AS XV Trelon I and Faleena 11-08-80 AS XV to 05-16-81 AS XVI Christopher and Trude 05-16-81 AS XVI to 11-21-81 AS XVI Thomas II and Anastasia II 11-21-81 AS XVI to 05-15-82 AS XVII Christopher II & Gabrielle 05-15-82 AS XVII to 11-05-82 AS XVII Trelon II and Kimie 11-05-82 AS XVII to 04-30-83 AS XVII Justin II and Hastini 04-30-83 AS XVII to 11-19-83 AS XVIII Thoronaur and Lucia 11-19-83 AS XVIII to 05-19-84 AS XIX Rotwulf and Naomi 05-19-84 AS XIX to 11-17-84 AS XIX Lei Chiang Jen and Aurora 11-17-84 AS XIX to 05-19-85 AS XX Justin III and Victoria II 05-19-85 AS XIX to 11-16-85 AS XX Elric and Camelen 11-16-85 AS XX to 05-17-86 AS XXI Mathghamhain and Fiona 05-17-86 AS XXI to 07-19-86 AS XXI (resigned ) Regency of Viscount Elric ap Moray Justin IV and Victoria III 09-21-86 AS XXI to 03-21-87 AS XXI Mathghamhain and Clea 03-21-87 AS XXI to 09-19-87 AS XXII Eldrid and Dorinda 09-19-87 AS XXII to 03-19-88 AS XXII Mark and Jacqueline 03-19-88 AS XXII to 09-17-88 AS XXIII Adam and Eirianedd 09-17-88 AS XXIII to 03-18-89 AS XXIII Gilbert and Brynhilde 03-18-89 AS XXIII to 09-16-89 AS XXIV Danu and Malinda 09-16-89 AS XXIV to 03-17-90 AS XXIV Justin V and Victoria IV 03-17-90 AS XXIV to 09-18-90 AS XXV Ulric and Elaina 09-18-90 AS XXV to Arik and Roslynne ----------------------------------------------------------- THE ANNOTATED ROLL OF KINGS AND QUEENS OF ATENVELDT: ----------------------------------------------------------- King and Queen from to ----------------------------------------------------------- Richard and Felicia 01/16/71 AS V to 06/22/71 AS VI Felicia MacCluarain aka "Great White Elephant." Atenveldt covers 27 states of the USA, from the Colorado River to the Atlantic Ocean. There is talk of "Manifest Destiny," but Calafia goes with the West. Richard (Ironsteed) had no thought of entering the first Crown, and hadn't even brought his own armor that day....but he wound up fighting anyway, and winning the first Crown of the Kingdom of Atenveldt. The custom of "finking the King" grew, being a car FULL of SCA types pulling up to the King's home in the middle of the night, jumping out and shouting, in unison, "THE KING IS A FINK!" and then tearing away as fast as possible..... THE WELDON HOUSE DYNASTY: Arthur and Irving 06/22/71 AS VI to 12/03/71 AS VI Irving MacChluarain. This name was "hung" on her in a demented game of Monopoly at Weldon House one night. Weldon House was an SCA "commune" where most of the Hot Sticks lived, at one time or another. The trebuchet was set up in the front yard, to the amazement of passers-by, at 32nd St and Weldon, Phoenix AZ. Michael of Moria got pretty drunk one night and began to swing back and forth on the end of the trebuchet's arm. All the other SCA folk at Weldon House that night (about 15 people) got tiki-torches, rakes and pitchforks and gathered round the base, at which point Michael began doing his Cornered Frankenstein Monster act, growling and pawing at the mob......the mundanes marveled at the scene. Joseph and Kathleen 12/03/71 AS VI to 06/??/72 AS VII Kathleen MacChluarain. Joseph was the only un-belted King of Atenveldt. He had his origins in the Weldon House crowd, but was on the outs with them. This caused many problems. Stephen and Shannon 06/??/72 AS VII to 12/03/72 AS VII Won the Crown at his first Tourney. Belted on the field. First codification of Kingdom Law. Monster Milk-And-Cookies: someone, usually the Lady or the Chatelaine of House Locksley, would walk out onto the Tourney field (usually in the middle of the excitement) with a plate of milk and chocolate chip cookies. She would then shout "COOKIE" and step back. The Locksley Monsters would take over the field and eat cookies and drink milk while someone read them a nice children's story....at an average weight of 250-300 lbs. each (out of armour), who would argue with them? Arthur and Lorelei 12/03/72 AS VII to 04/14/73 AS VII Lorelei of Zagamar, aka "Hot Flash." She was the quintessence of "cute," "beautiful" and "nice," all at the same time. We used to go into the Village Inn pizza parlor on Apache Blvd. in Tempe after Tourneys. This was also the hangout of the local frat-rats. Picture Baron Sir Ivanof von Schloss, in full Roman armour, kicking open the door, shouting "Wine for my horses and fodder for my men!" throwing a waitress over his shoulder and demanding the back-room for the SCA folks. We always got it. ìTHE RISE OF THE CRUSADENES: Reynard and Kathleen 04/14/73 AS VII to 09/29/73 AS VIII Kathleen MacChluarain Monster Ball....this was developed by the Locksley Monsters, being either a) passing a lady back and forth (throwing her to each of them across a circle of Monsters (yes, they were THAT big), or playing with Deaton's 250 lb. anvil, or play- ing "Aten Football" using a Volkswagen or something like a tree-trunk as the "ball" and playing it in armour, with melee rules....pretty crazy stuff. Reynard tended to be pretty crazed. There was talk of the "Reynard Doll: wind it up and it wins the Tourney." He was -blindingly- fast on the Field. He liked to "play ape" and swing about in trees, hooting and gibbering. The first Crusadene King. The "Crusadenes" wore tabards of "Argent, a Latin Cross gules," and, originally, had sworn to make pilgrimage to Jerusalem and stand vigil over the Holy Sepulcher, in armour, for 24 hours. Robert and Sequora 09/29/73 AS VIII to 06/22/74 AS IX Sequora of Zagamar Reynard II and Kathleen II 06/22/74 AS IX to 01/12/75 AS IX Robert II and Sequora II 01/12/75 AS IX to 06/22/75 AS X First Grand Outlandish (?) Tyr Ysgithyr becomes a Barony. Pontius and Sharazon 06/22/75 AS X to 12/13/75 AS X Not actually from the Weldon House crowd, but ran with them. The Dark Horde appears in Atenveldt. The Dwarves appear in the Outlands. Denis and Samantha 12/13/75 AS X to 06/06/76 AS XI Denis rips in two and eats Deaton's rattan broadsword, thereby giving the Locksley Monsters a BIG reputation.... The first Locksley King. The second Crusadene King. Caid Invasion (about four minutes into opening Court....and live steel came out (well? It's what -we- wear at Court!) END OF THE WELDON HOUSE DYNASTY: Deaton I and Care Cheri I 06/06/76 AS XI to 12/18/76 AS XI Care Cheri is a MacChluarain, too. Too many sheep here! The third Crusadene King. Jonathan and Lyn 12/18/76 AS XI to 03/13/77 AS XI The fourth Crusadene King. Abdicated at first Caid Invitational at Estrella Park, the first Estrella War (not counted in Estrella War numbering system). Principality of Atenveldt renamed The Sun, and a separate Coronet List established. REGENCY: Regency of Deaton Claymore (1st in SCA) Tourney was "chaired" but not "reigned over" by Ioseph of Locksley, then Laurel King of Arms. Deaton did not wish to enter, but the fighters there present requested him to do so. There were 66 fighters in this List. Deaton defeated Denis for the Crown in a light rain. As the final blow was struck, a rainbow appeared over their shoulders. Deaton II and Care Cheri II 03/13/77 AS XI to 08/13/77 AS XII Meridies becomes a Kingdom. Deaton and Care's Ducal Coronets cost them an estimated $11,000 in expenses. Deaton crushed a helm in his hands in Ansteorra and promptly wrote new armor standards. THE CROWN PASSES TO THE OUTLANDS: Ton and Elizabeth 08/13/77 AS XII to 12/17/77 AS XII The first of the Outlands Kings. Ton got his start in Ysgithyr, and did NOT like the "power people" in the Sun. This caused problems in his reign that continued over to many of the other Outlands Kings of Atenveldt. Koris and Leah 12/17/77 AS XII to 05/06/78 AS XIII Amayot and Ivanof von Schloss joust on motorcycles at Crown. Johann and Malinda 05/06/78 AS XIII to 09/09/78 AS XIII Jonathon and Willow 09/09/78 AS XIII to 03/03/79 AS XIII The Crown goes to Ansteorra. Burro Creek War....Aten vs Caid. Theo and Selene 03/03/79 AS XIII to 07/21/79 AS XIV The Crown comes back to the Outlands. Koris II and Leah II 07/21/79 AS XIV to 01/05/80 AS XIV Heinrich and Sara 01/05/80 AS XIV to 06/07/80 AS XV Ansteorra becomes a Kingdom. (?) Einrich and Shaleaya 06/07/80 AS XV to 12/06/80 AS XV Johann II and Malinda II 12/06/80 AS XV to 06/20/81 AS XVI Albert and Selene 06/20/81 AS XVI to 12/05/81 AS XVI Clan Shadowcat appears, and the Kingdom climbs a tree.... Amayot and Kerensa 12/05/81 AS XVI to 05/30/82 AS XVII The Sun takes back the Crown. The last Crusadene King. The second Locksley King. (The so-called "BannerGate") Burro Creek War the Last; Deaton finds himself surrounded by about 30 Caidans, and kills them all in an incredible display of SCA combat. Einrich II and Myrby 05/30/82 AS XVII to 12/04/82 AS XVII And the Outlands takes it back again.... Dafydd and Lyn 12/04/82 AS XVII to 06/04/83 AS XVIII And the Sun takes it back. (The so-called "BaronGate") Catbox War I.....Aten vs Caid. Appearance of Rolling Thunder. Christopher and Constance 06/04/83 AS XVIII to 12/03/83 AS XVIII SunDragon becomes a Barony. Trelon I and Trude 12/03/83 AS XVIII to 06/02/84 AS XIX Catbox War II.....Aten vs Caid. Freana and Richenda 06/02/84 AS XIX to 12/01/84 AS XIX Micah and Thamzine 12/01/84 AS XIX to 06/01/85 AS XX Estrella I....Aten vs Caid. THE BEGINNING OF THE TRELON/BRION DYNASTY: Brion and Adrianna 06/01/85 AS XX to 12/07/85 AS XX Death of Queen Adrianna: Every florist in Utah is sold out of roses, as they -all- had been sent to the funeral. She is buried in her regalia as Countess, and the entire Kingdom is in mourning. Trelon II and Daphne 12/07/85 AS XX to 06/07/86 AS XXI Estrella II ....Aten vs Caid. Brion II and Anna 06/07/86 AS XXI to 12/06/86 AS XXI Trelon III and Daphne II 12/06/86 AS XXI to 06/06/87 AS XXII A lawsuit is filed against the SCA. Elric ap Moray literally saves the Society with his legal work. Outlands becomes a Kingdom. Estrella III....Aten vs Caid. Brion III and Anna II 06/06/87 AS XXII to 12/05/87 AS XXII Artemisia becomes a Principality. Thorfinn is first Prince. ìINTERLUDE I: Kveldulfr and Briony 12/05/87 AS XXII to 06/04/88 AS XXIII Estrella IV....Aten vs Caid. ìTHE DYNASTY COMMENCES AGAIN: Brion IV and Anna III 06/04/88 AS XXIII to 12/03/88 AS XXIII Trelon IV and Daphne III 12/03/88 AS XXIII to 09/03/89 AS XXIV The Great Beheading. Estrella V ....Aten vs Caid. Brion V and Anna IV 09/03/89 AS XXIV to 03/10/90 AS XXIV Estrella VI ....Aten vs Caid. Johnathan Whytewolfe brings a Great Mucking Cannon to the War. Caid is -very- surprised! ìINTERLUDE II: Mark I and Jaquelline I 03/10/90 AS XXIV to 09/01/90 AS XXV Aten-Outlands War. ìTHE BRION/THORFINN DYNASTY: Thorfinn I and Sarah I 09/01/90 AS XXV to 03/??/91 AS XXV Estrella VII ....Aten vs Caid. Brion VI and Anna V 03/??/91 AS XXV to 09/07/91 AS XXVI Thorfinn II and Sarah II 09/07/91 AS XXVI to 03/ /92 AS XXVI Mark II and Jaquelline II 03/ /92 AS XXVI to AS XXVII ------------------------------------------------------------------- Respectfully submitted, with apoligies for my aged and decrepit memory: (please correct me if I am wrong in dating) -Ioseph of Locksley needed: when did Mons Tinitris become a Barony? when did Loch Salann and 1000 Eyes become Baronies? ------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sandradodd at aol.com (SandraDodd) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Crowns, Coronets, & Law Date: 12 Nov 1994 13:40:38 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) In article <3a0dcn$7r6 at netaxs.com>, blktauna at netaxs.com (Donna Bowers) writes: <> I actually know the answer to the question: Many years ago, when there were five kingdoms and Caid and Ansteorra were just about to become independent, Atenveldt was deciding about coronets, at the request of the steward (Bevin Fraser) and because of a few minor misunderstandings about viscounts and "crown barons" (don't ask) and so there were discussions,and drafts, and influential campaigners. I was Seneschal of Atenveldt, but not yet a peer. Baldwin of Erebor was Aten Herald and maybe had just become a peer, but maybe not quite yet. There were countesses and duchesses in a certain influential neighborhood (not mine) who were accustomed to wearing decorative wires (1/8 inch bands) as their coronets, and they neither had nor wanted fancier coronets. This, I believe, without the filling in of any particular gossipy details, is the basis of the situation. It ended up affecting the Outlands, but not Ansteorra, as Ansteorra was too busy hatching their new kingdom to pay attention to this round of discussions. Ansteorra allows coronets for AoA's (I believe) and *elaborate* coronets for Court Barons. AElflaed of Duckford, feeling suddenly really old From: djheydt at uclink.berkeley.edu (Dorothy J Heydt) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Kingdoms that used to be in the East Kingdom Date: 3 Jul 1996 22:23:34 GMT Organization: University of California at Berkeley [Hal posting from Dorothy's account....] In article <4re4gj$m71 at news.emi.com>, C. Clark wrote: >Principality of Atenveldt (which soon turned into a >kingdom). Atenveldt started as a Barony of the West. They petitioned to become a Principality a few years later, and eventually became the first kingdom to be formally split off from an existing kingdom. --Hal Ravn (Hal Heydt) From: amazing at mail.utexas.edu (dennis grace) To: bryn-gwlad at eden.com Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:47:26 -0500 Subject: Re: From the Seneschale Warlord Dieter wrote: >With the support of the southern principality and the new vigor that these >factors produce in the populus, the principality grew both in membership and >in other intangible ways- (Sir Lyonel, I think you might best cover this >area) Artemesia became a proud place with a strong membership despite the >low population density. And I must concur. It's hard to argue with the facts. The region of Artemisia, despite including Montana, Utah, all of Idaho but the panhandle, and the Western Slope portions of Wyoming and Colorado, only tenuously had the necessary population to maintain a principality (circa 1986). We had one barony (Loch Salann, in Salt Lake City); active, healthy shires only in Green River, Idaho Falls, Boise, Bozeman, and Missoula; and incipient shires or dying shires in another perhaps ten small cities. The fact of our sparse population had many in the BoD convinced we'd never be able to maintain the numbers necessary to retain Principality status. We made becoming a principality our rallying cry. First, we established the Barony of 1000 Eyes in Idaho Falls, an effort which, itself, required much rallying and crying (after all, Idaho Falls only has a polulation of 50,000). Shortly thereafter, with concerted efforts at recruitment, demos, and advertising, we boosted the regional population to 275 in time for consideration for principality status. In the next few months, Sentinels Keep (Missoula) and Arn Hold (Boise) advanced to baronial status and the number of active shires doubled. I know this might seem to verify one of the frequently expressed fears concerning principality formation, but the Principality of Artemisia is now about to become the Kingdom of Artemisia; they have their first Crown Tourney scheduled for April. (Artemisia's reasons for the split have nothing to do with their status as a Principality, but I think the impending split gives a good idea of their growth since becoming a principality). Yours in Virtual Service Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace, Thegn 1000 Eyes ________________________________________ Dennis G. Grace Assistant Instructor Postmodern Medievalist Division of Rhetoric and Composition University of Texas From: "Sandra B. McDaniel" Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Kingdom names Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:10:12 -0700 > > The name was made up from the Egyptian "aten" for "sun" and Dutch(?) > > "veldt" for "plains". > > Those were the glory days of SCA name-creation. :-) > > Finnvarr Like many other things in the SCA, Atenveldt's name was chosen on the spur of the moment. Richard Ironsteed was encouraged to choose a name, (preferably non-directional) "right now". For reasons unknown to Rick or anybody else back then, it was pronounced with the long 'A' from the beginning. Subject: ANST - Atenveldt History Date: Tue, 13 Apr 99 13:05:49 MST From: leigh- at primenet.com To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG, artemisia at server.umt.edu, atenveldt at atenveldt.org, sca-caid at galaxy.csuchico.edu, outlands at mail.unm.edu, sca-east at world.std.com, sca-chroniclers at dnaco.net Chronicle of Atenveldt History of the Kingdom from 1969 to 1995, including all the Principalities that once were part of the Kingdom and are now Kingdoms themselves. Perma-bound with a color cover, the book contains not only the history, but the reigns of all kings and queens, princes and princesses of all principalities, cartoons which appeared in various issues of Southwind. All the major kingdom office holders are listed, plus early hard suit fighting rules, archery rules, rapier rules, a section devoted to the Military History of the Kingdom, which includes accounts of Estrella Wars. 364 pages, 8*x11, compiled by Mistress Catriona Macpherson, AKA Milly McCloskey. Copies are available (at cost) from Milly McCloskey, 14228 N. 45h Drive, Glendale AZ 85306-4500 for $10.00 plus $4.00 shipping/handling. There are a limited number of copies available and this is the last printing. This volume is useful for fairly new members to learn about their kingdom and a perfect way for older members to reminisce. Email replies to millymcc at primenet.com From: katerinfg at hotmail.com (Kathy Fitz) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Atenveldt regalia stolen Date: 30 Oct 2003 11:11:30 -0800 Forwarded from the Middlebridge: Count Denis of the Titans writes: His Majesty of Atenveldt has suffered a theft of regalia from his vehicle. Missing are the King's crown and signet ring, the sword of state and other items. Would those of you who follow on-line auctions please be on the look-out for these items. Thank you. Denis of the Titans - Atenveldt Unto the populace who read these letters ~ It is with great sadness that we tell you our vehicle was broken into and in addition to our personal belongings, several items of regalia were stolen including: His Majesties Crown and Signet Ring, King's Blood, the Kingdom Scroll Case and the very beautiful blue velvet banners. We are heartbroken and, of course, frantically contacting pawn shops across the valley (after extensive descriptions with the police and an immediate claim to our homeowners insurance.) We wish it known that in NO WAY do we believe this was done by an SCA person, and let us all pray that these items show up on EBay or in a pawn shop so that they may be retrieved. We thank those of you who have been so patient and supportive as we have been advising people along the way of the incident. So much for this being the easy week, but it's better than a million other things that could have happened. Erick and Nichelle Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Pat Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: Creative Supplimentation To: SCA Cooks I started in the SCA in Atenveldt (Greater Phoenix, AZ). There are three baronies, a College, and a Shire all within an hours drive, but the rest of the Kingdom is spread out over a huge area. (There are nearly 5 million people in Arizona, but 3 million of them live in the GPA). Weekend camping events are the norm. A few of the larger summer time events are held in Halls, with no camping (ever try sleeping in a tent when the midnight temperature is over 100 degrees F.?) The camping events seemed to be about 50/50 with feasts, and the Hall events all had feasts. Sometimes the camping feasts were included with the site fee, the Hall events very seldom included feast with the site fee. Because Atenveldt is a predominantly urban population, supplementing with wild game or home grown vegetables was seldom done, although locally grown lamb has been used. I moved to Meridies two years ago. My biggest culture shock was finding that weekend events here almost always include cabins, and people are reluctant to attend camping events in more primitive settings where cabins are not available. How can cement block cabins and swimming pools onsite add to the Medieval atmosphere? Also, the population is much more spread out, and one does not get the opportunity to fraternize with royalty that one experiences in Atenveldt. Pat Griffin Lady Anne du Bosc known as Mordonna the Cook Shire of Thorngill, Meridies Mundanely, Millbrook, AL From: Douglas Schreffler Date: August 30, 2006 3:19:25 PM CDT To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad Subject: [Bryn-gwlad] Lord Douglas' Fractured History O' Combat Archery As a historical aside; I had the dubious privilege of being present when combat archery was first attempted (I think) back in '73 or '74 at the Second Burro Creek War between the Kingdom of the West and the Kingdom of Atenveldt (I think it became the Estrella War, which sounds better). I was in the Principality of Caid, fighting against a bunch of people from the uncouth name of the Principality of Ansteorra. As Uther had mentioned, this was before authorizations and pretty much before any actual armor requirements. My armor consisted of a Kirby barrel helm (which I still have), hockey gloves, and "armor" with the powder blue shag carpeting inside and "Monsanto Wearever" boldly blazoned across my chest. Somebody suggested we try combat archery. There were no poundage limitations on the bows, and nobody had crossbows...though there were some nasty-looking pink neon fiberglass longbows present. Combat arrows consisted of any shaft you happened to have out of whatever material they were made out of, with a disc of foam rubber duck-taped to the top after you sawed off the point. An hour before the first battle, the marshal decided that all fighters must cover all eye and other helm openings with chicken wire. As chicken wire was not readily available at 8am on a Saturday in a rural state park, this resulted in the marshal being stuffed in a convenient dumpster and the battle going forth. After two very HOT hours of our battle commanders "maneuvering their forces" (they were war-gaming devotees) we found Atenveldt and Ansteorra lined up at the foot of a jeep track leading up to the "castle" (water tank). We stood and yelled naughty things at each other for another 30 minutes. Then, Hagar the Bear, a very large, very furry Caidan, who wore minimal armor and had driven all that way from LA to smack somebody with a rattan club, got "irked". We of Caid and the West, seeking peaceful negotiations, started chanting "Ha-GAR! Ha-GAR!" mostly because we were bored and to egg Hagar on. Hagar went berserk and charged the Atenveldt line, taking out a half-dozen of the opposing force before dying (mostly by landing on them) and opening a hole in the shield wall. The combat archers (all six of them) got one flight off before the rest of Caid and the West ignored their battle commanders and followed Hagar, most of us merrily jumping up and down on the arrows so they couldn't be used again...not that we acknowledged the strikes in the first place. Caid and the West won gloriously (or, at least, that's what I remembered after several bottles of Ripple Pagan Pink wine) and thus combat archery was born, having developed into what it is today. So, my recommendation is...anybody know whether Ripple Pagan Pink is still manufactured and where I could buy several cases? Lord Douglas "Is that a pink neon fiberglass longbow or are you just happy to see me" Lion. From: Chris Zakes Date: August 30, 2006 5:05:20 PM CDT To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Lord Douglas' Fractured History O' Combat Archery > As a historical aside; > > I had the dubious privilege of being present when combat archery was > first attempted (I think) back in '73 or '74 at the Second Burro > Creek War between the Kingdom of the West and the Kingdom of > Atenveldt (I think it became the Estrella War, which sounds better). The first Burro Creek War was in February of AS 12--1978 (I have some rather painful memories of the drive out there and back in a couple of RV's towing trailers full of gear) so #2 would have been in 1979. I'd made up several dozen combat arrows for Burro Creek 1, only to be told when we got there that combat archery wouldn't be allowed. > I was in the Principality of Caid, fighting against a bunch of > people from the uncouth name of the Principality of Ansteorra. As > Uther had mentioned, this was before authorizations and pretty much > before any actual armor requirements. My armor consisted of a > Kirby barrel helm (which I still have), hockey gloves, and "armor" > with the powder blue shag carpeting inside and "Monsanto Wearever" > boldly blazoned across my chest. Somebody suggested we try combat > archery. There were no poundage limitations on the bows, and > nobody had crossbows...though there were some nasty-looking pink > neon fiberglass longbows present. Combat arrows consisted of any > shaft you happened to have out of whatever material they were made > out of, with a disc of foam rubber duck-taped to the top after you > sawed off the point. An hour before the first battle, the marshal > decided that all fighters must cover all eye and other helm > openings with chicken wire. As chicken wire was not readily > available at 8am on a Saturday in a rural state park, this resulted > in the marshal being stuffed in a convenient dumpster and the > battle going forth. There actually *was* combat archery happening before that--one of my first events was a "Clan War" at Buescher State Park over Labor Day weekend in AS 11, which had combat archery in several melees. At that event, the archers had to wear fencing masks and were "touch kill" for the armored fighters. Most arrows has 2" solid rubber balls fiber-taped in place for heads, which made bounce-backs *really* exciting if they hit something solid. As you said, there weren't any real rules for things like bow poundage or armor requirements. (Hey, most of us were college kids, which meant we were immortal, right? ) In March of AS 11, the Society Marshal, Duke Andrew of Seldom Rest, issued a ban on, among other things, fencing and archery at human targets, which implies that combat archery was happening in more places than just proto-Ansteorra. > After two very HOT hours of our battle commanders "maneuvering > their forces" (they were war-gaming devotees) we found Atenveldt > and Ansteorra lined up at the foot of a jeep track leading up to > the "castle" (water tank). Oh, lord, I remember that from Burro Creek 1: marching here, marching there, marching somewhere else in the sand and cactus for quite a long time before anybody got to throw a blow. Fortunately I was marshalling, rather than fighting, so It wasn't as bad as the woods battle at Gulf War 1. -Tivar Moondragon Fossil-in-residence (I wonder if mastadons would qualify as targets in the Hunt?) Edited by Mark S. Harris Aten-hist-msg Page 16 of 16