Aten-hist-msg – 9/6/08
Histories of the SCA Kingdom of Atenveldt.
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Subj: Atenveldt History Part 1
Date: 23 Nov 91
A SHORT HISTORICAL OUTLINE OF THE KINGDOM OF ATENVELDT
GENERAL SCA PRE-HISTORY:
The SCA started on 1 May, 1966. The first knight of the SCA
(David the Herald) was dubbed by Siegfried von Hoefflichkeit
at this event.
On 25 March, 1967, Fulk de Wyvern dubbed Henrik of Havn a knight,
and crowned him the first King in the SCA.
The rank of Duke was created on 6 January, 1968, along with the
Order of the Rose, the Order of the Laurel, and MSCA.
On 21 July, 1968, the first King of the East, Bruce of Cloves, was
The SCA was officially incorporated on 4 Oct., 1968.
On 4 January, 1969, Grants of Arms, Awards of Arms, and Court Barons
were created by King Caradoc (ap Cador) of the West.
On 4-6 July, 1969, the first Crown Tourney of the Middle Kingdom was
held. Their first Coronation was on 7 Sept. 1969, with Cariadoc of the
Bow their first King. (He later became King of the East, after being
King of the Middle and declaring War on the East, thus declaring war
on himself, and starting Pennsic War). Ioseph of Locksley and Richard
Ironsteed join the SCA, at Santa Barbara WesterCon.
On 22 October, 1972, the Order of the Pelican was created. It was
released to the giving of individual Kingdoms on 9 July 1974.
In May of AS XXV, the SCA became a recognized sub-culture, with the
accession of Sir Stephan of Bellatrix, son of Duke Paul of Bellatrix,
to the Throne of the West.
The first Tourney was held on 7 December, 1969, at McCormick Ranch
Park in Scottsdale, and the second Tourney, which chose the first
Prince of the Principality of Atenveldt (now the Sun) was held at
the same location on February 22, 1970. The BoD voted us a Kingdom
on 19 April, 1970, giving us Caerthe and the branch in New Orleans,
and the whole Southern USA to the Atlantic Ocean.
The official "Kingdom Day" is 18 January.
"Atenveldt" was a Principality first, and there is some arguement
as to when or if it ever was a Barony. Robert Roundpounder was the
The Kingdom of Atenveldt was founded and built -primarily- by:
Michael of Moria Deaton Claymore
Richard Ironsteed Care-Cheri of the Fallen Stars
Ivan du Grey (of Navarette) Denis of the Titans
Ioseph of Locksley William of the Shire
The Barony Of Atenveldt was founded by: Michael of Moria and
The March of Ered Sul was founded by: Perigrine Mellyrn of the
The Barony of Tyr Ysgithyr was founded by: Rodema de Rohan
The Barony-March of Mons Tinitrus was founded by:
The Barony of SunDragon was founded by: Alys Carvelsdottir and
Mary Margaret of Derby
The Barony of Loch Salann was founded by:
The Barony of 1000 Eyes was founded by:
The following Kingdoms of the SCA came out of Atenveldt:
ACTIVE PREMIERS OF THE PEERAGE:
Premier Chevalier: Johnathan of Whytewolfe
Laurel: Ioseph of Locksley
Pelican: Denis of the Titans
The Crown of Atenveldt can be traced most easily by the "dynasty"
system. These were, in order (so far):
THE ROLL OF PRINCES AND PRINCESSES OF ATENVELDT
Robert I and Katrin 04/12/70 AS IV to 06/21/70 AS V
Robert Roundpounder, the first Prince of Atenveldt, crowned
himself as Prince, saying that he had won it with his hands
and prowess, and nobody else had the right to give him what
-he- had won by "right of arms." This tradition was continued
in this Kingdom, and written into first Kingdom Law.
The Principality established the Order of Light, a general
Service/Arts award for the Principality of Atenveldt. This
was the first local Order in the SCA...and we were the first
-Principality- in the SCA, too....we went on to establish
many precedents for the SCA, some good...and some not so good.
One person has quipped: "Atenveldt exists so the Board of
Directors has something to keep them occupied...."
Robert only had one real problem as Prince....if a Dallas
Cowboys game was on TV, the WORLD STOPPED while he watched
the game. He wrote very good poetry, too.
Establishment of the "Locksley Monsters." First two were
Sir Carole the Grim and Sir Dale the Small (dsd).
Arthur I and Angela 06/21/70 AS V to 10/21/70 AS V
It was right around in here that William of the Shire built a
Viking longboat. It was about 25 feet long, with a sail. We took
it out on Lake Pleasant, in a VERY brisk wind, and it damn near
out ran the (motor powered) MCSO boat......the Sheriff's thought
it was GREAT, but asked us to get it registered.....
Robert II and Kathleen I 10/21/70 AS V to 01/16/71 AS V
William of the Shire made mead. It was -very- good mead, tho it had
a bad habit of escaping from the bottles and crawling across the floor
of his kitchen. He would strain it thru an old sock. We never asked
if he had washed the sock first or not. One post-revel, as we were
cleaning up the Hall, a Lady that later became Michael of Moria's
second wife was sitting on one of the tables with a rather far-away
look about her. I asked her if anything was wrong, and she looked at
me with great limpid eyes (she had KILLER eyes anyway) and said, in
a -very- tiny voice: "I have a brick in my head." Then she fell over.
(Note: The Crown Prince/ess of the Kingdom ruled as Prince and
Princess from 01/16/71 until Post-Regency.)
THE ROLL OF THE CORONETS OF THE PRINCIPALITY OF THE SUN
(renaming of the Princip. of Atenveldt as Princip. of the Sun
and re-establishment of the Prince and Princess of the Sun)
Ivan and Kathleen IV 01-06-77 AS XI to 05-07-77 AS XII
Thomas I and Anastasia I 05-07-77 AS XII to 11-05-77 AS XII
Denis II and Trude I 11-05-77 AS XII to 06-11-78 AS XIII
Amayot and Kerensa 06-11-78 AS XIII to 12-10-78 AS XIII
Denis III and Trude II 12-10-78 AS XIII to 06-02-79 AS XIV
Nicholas and Frances 06-02-79 AS XIV to 11-17-79 AS XIV
Justin I and Victoria I 11-12-79 AS XIV to 04-12-80 AS XIV
Roger and Elwyn 04-12-80 AS XIV to 11-08-80 AS XV
Trelon I and Faleena 11-08-80 AS XV to 05-16-81 AS XVI
Christopher and Trude 05-16-81 AS XVI to 11-21-81 AS XVI
Thomas II and Anastasia II 11-21-81 AS XVI to 05-15-82 AS XVII
Christopher II & Gabrielle 05-15-82 AS XVII to 11-05-82 AS XVII
Trelon II and Kimie 11-05-82 AS XVII to 04-30-83 AS XVII
Justin II and Hastini 04-30-83 AS XVII to 11-19-83 AS XVIII
Thoronaur and Lucia 11-19-83 AS XVIII to 05-19-84 AS XIX
Rotwulf and Naomi 05-19-84 AS XIX to 11-17-84 AS XIX
Lei Chiang Jen and Aurora 11-17-84 AS XIX to 05-19-85 AS XX
Justin III and Victoria II 05-19-85 AS XIX to 11-16-85 AS XX
Elric and Camelen 11-16-85 AS XX to 05-17-86 AS XXI
Mathghamhain and Fiona 05-17-86 AS XXI to 07-19-86 AS XXI
Regency of Viscount Elric ap Moray
Justin IV and Victoria III 09-21-86 AS XXI to 03-21-87 AS XXI
Mathghamhain and Clea 03-21-87 AS XXI to 09-19-87 AS XXII
Eldrid and Dorinda 09-19-87 AS XXII to 03-19-88 AS XXII
Mark and Jacqueline 03-19-88 AS XXII to 09-17-88 AS XXIII
Adam and Eirianedd 09-17-88 AS XXIII to 03-18-89 AS XXIII
Gilbert and Brynhilde 03-18-89 AS XXIII to 09-16-89 AS XXIV
Danu and Malinda 09-16-89 AS XXIV to 03-17-90 AS XXIV
Justin V and Victoria IV 03-17-90 AS XXIV to 09-18-90 AS XXV
Ulric and Elaina 09-18-90 AS XXV to
Arik and Roslynne
THE ANNOTATED ROLL OF KINGS AND QUEENS OF ATENVELDT:
King and Queen from to
Richard and Felicia 01/16/71 AS V to 06/22/71 AS VI
Felicia MacCluarain aka "Great White Elephant."
Atenveldt covers 27 states of the USA, from the Colorado River
to the Atlantic Ocean. There is talk of "Manifest Destiny,"
but Calafia goes with the West.
Richard (Ironsteed) had no thought of entering the first Crown,
and hadn't even brought his own armor that day....but he wound
up fighting anyway, and winning the first Crown of the Kingdom
The custom of "finking the King" grew, being a car FULL of SCA
types pulling up to the King's home in the middle of the night,
jumping out and shouting, in unison, "THE KING IS A FINK!" and
then tearing away as fast as possible.....
THE WELDON HOUSE DYNASTY:
Arthur and Irving 06/22/71 AS VI to 12/03/71 AS VI
Irving MacChluarain. This name was "hung" on her in a demented
game of Monopoly at Weldon House one night.
Weldon House was an SCA "commune" where most of the Hot Sticks
lived, at one time or another. The trebuchet was set up in the
front yard, to the amazement of passers-by, at 32nd St and
Weldon, Phoenix AZ. Michael of Moria got pretty drunk one night
and began to swing back and forth on the end of the trebuchet's
arm. All the other SCA folk at Weldon House that night (about
15 people) got tiki-torches, rakes and pitchforks and gathered
round the base, at which point Michael began doing his Cornered
Frankenstein Monster act, growling and pawing at the
mob......the mundanes marveled at the scene.
Joseph and Kathleen 12/03/71 AS VI to 06/??/72 AS VII
Joseph was the only un-belted King of Atenveldt. He had his
origins in the Weldon House crowd, but was on the outs with
them. This caused many problems.
Stephen and Shannon 06/??/72 AS VII to 12/03/72 AS VII
Won the Crown at his first Tourney.
Belted on the field.
First codification of Kingdom Law.
Monster Milk-And-Cookies: someone, usually the Lady or the
Chatelaine of House Locksley, would walk out onto the Tourney
field (usually in the middle of the excitement) with a plate of
milk and chocolate chip cookies. She would then shout "COOKIE"
and step back. The Locksley Monsters would take over the field
and eat cookies and drink milk while someone read them a nice
children's story....at an average weight of 250-300 lbs. each
(out of armour), who would argue with them?
Arthur and Lorelei 12/03/72 AS VII to 04/14/73 AS VII
Lorelei of Zagamar, aka "Hot Flash." She was the quintessence
of "cute," "beautiful" and "nice," all at the same time.
We used to go into the Village Inn pizza parlor on Apache Blvd.
in Tempe after Tourneys. This was also the hangout of the local
frat-rats. Picture Baron Sir Ivanof von Schloss, in full Roman
armour, kicking open the door, shouting "Wine for my horses and
fodder for my men!" throwing a waitress over his shoulder and
demanding the back-room for the SCA folks. We always got it.
“THE RISE OF THE CRUSADENES:
Reynard and Kathleen 04/14/73 AS VII to 09/29/73 AS VIII
Monster Ball....this was developed by the Locksley Monsters,
being either a) passing a lady back and forth (throwing her
to each of them across a circle of Monsters (yes, they were
THAT big), or playing with Deaton's 250 lb. anvil, or play-
ing "Aten Football" using a Volkswagen or something like a
tree-trunk as the "ball" and playing it in armour, with
melee rules....pretty crazy stuff.
Reynard tended to be pretty crazed. There was talk of the
"Reynard Doll: wind it up and it wins the Tourney." He was
-blindingly- fast on the Field. He liked to "play ape" and
swing about in trees, hooting and gibbering.
The first Crusadene King. The "Crusadenes" wore tabards of
"Argent, a Latin Cross gules," and, originally, had sworn to
make pilgrimage to Jerusalem and stand vigil over the Holy
Sepulcher, in armour, for 24 hours.
Robert and Sequora 09/29/73 AS VIII to 06/22/74 AS IX
Sequora of Zagamar
Reynard II and Kathleen II 06/22/74 AS IX to 01/12/75 AS IX
Robert II and Sequora II 01/12/75 AS IX to 06/22/75 AS X
First Grand Outlandish (?)
Tyr Ysgithyr becomes a Barony.
Pontius and Sharazon 06/22/75 AS X to 12/13/75 AS X
Not actually from the Weldon House crowd, but ran with them.
The Dark Horde appears in Atenveldt.
The Dwarves appear in the Outlands.
Denis and Samantha 12/13/75 AS X to 06/06/76 AS XI
Denis rips in two and eats Deaton's rattan broadsword, thereby
giving the Locksley Monsters a BIG reputation....
The first Locksley King.
The second Crusadene King.
Caid Invasion (about four minutes into opening Court....and
live steel came out (well? It's what -we- wear at Court!)
END OF THE WELDON HOUSE DYNASTY:
Deaton I and Care Cheri I 06/06/76 AS XI to 12/18/76 AS XI
Care Cheri is a MacChluarain, too. Too many sheep here!
The third Crusadene King.
Jonathan and Lyn 12/18/76 AS XI to 03/13/77 AS XI
The fourth Crusadene King.
Abdicated at first Caid Invitational at Estrella Park, the
first Estrella War (not counted in Estrella War numbering
Principality of Atenveldt renamed The Sun, and a separate
Coronet List established.
Regency of Deaton Claymore (1st in SCA)
Tourney was "chaired" but not "reigned over" by Ioseph of
Locksley, then Laurel King of Arms. Deaton did not wish to
enter, but the fighters there present requested him to do so.
There were 66 fighters in this List. Deaton defeated Denis for
the Crown in a light rain. As the final blow was struck, a
rainbow appeared over their shoulders.
Deaton II and Care Cheri II 03/13/77 AS XI to 08/13/77 AS XII
Meridies becomes a Kingdom. Deaton and Care's Ducal Coronets
cost them an estimated $11,000 in expenses. Deaton crushed a
helm in his hands in Ansteorra and promptly wrote new armor
THE CROWN PASSES TO THE OUTLANDS:
Ton and Elizabeth 08/13/77 AS XII to 12/17/77 AS XII
The first of the Outlands Kings. Ton got his start in Ysgithyr,
and did NOT like the "power people" in the Sun. This caused
problems in his reign that continued over to many of the other
Outlands Kings of Atenveldt.
Koris and Leah 12/17/77 AS XII to 05/06/78 AS XIII
Amayot and Ivanof von Schloss joust on motorcycles at Crown.
Johann and Malinda 05/06/78 AS XIII to 09/09/78 AS XIII
Jonathon and Willow 09/09/78 AS XIII to 03/03/79 AS XIII
The Crown goes to Ansteorra.
Burro Creek War....Aten vs Caid.
Theo and Selene 03/03/79 AS XIII to 07/21/79 AS XIV
The Crown comes back to the Outlands.
Koris II and Leah II 07/21/79 AS XIV to 01/05/80 AS XIV
Heinrich and Sara 01/05/80 AS XIV to 06/07/80 AS XV
Ansteorra becomes a Kingdom. (?)
Einrich and Shaleaya 06/07/80 AS XV to 12/06/80 AS XV
Johann II and Malinda II 12/06/80 AS XV to 06/20/81 AS XVI
Albert and Selene 06/20/81 AS XVI to 12/05/81 AS XVI
Clan Shadowcat appears, and the Kingdom climbs a tree....
Amayot and Kerensa 12/05/81 AS XVI to 05/30/82 AS XVII
The Sun takes back the Crown.
The last Crusadene King.
The second Locksley King.
(The so-called "BannerGate")
Burro Creek War the Last; Deaton finds himself surrounded by
about 30 Caidans, and kills them all in an incredible display
of SCA combat.
Einrich II and Myrby 05/30/82 AS XVII to 12/04/82 AS XVII
And the Outlands takes it back again....
Dafydd and Lyn 12/04/82 AS XVII to 06/04/83 AS XVIII
And the Sun takes it back.
(The so-called "BaronGate")
Catbox War I.....Aten vs Caid. Appearance of Rolling Thunder.
Christopher and Constance 06/04/83 AS XVIII to 12/03/83 AS XVIII
SunDragon becomes a Barony.
Trelon I and Trude 12/03/83 AS XVIII to 06/02/84 AS XIX
Catbox War II.....Aten vs Caid.
Freana and Richenda 06/02/84 AS XIX to 12/01/84 AS XIX
Micah and Thamzine 12/01/84 AS XIX to 06/01/85 AS XX
Estrella I....Aten vs Caid.
THE BEGINNING OF THE TRELON/BRION DYNASTY:
Brion and Adrianna 06/01/85 AS XX to 12/07/85 AS XX
Death of Queen Adrianna: Every florist in Utah is sold out of
roses, as they -all- had been sent to the funeral. She is
buried in her regalia as Countess, and the entire Kingdom is in
Trelon II and Daphne 12/07/85 AS XX to 06/07/86 AS XXI
Estrella II ....Aten vs Caid.
Brion II and Anna 06/07/86 AS XXI to 12/06/86 AS XXI
Trelon III and Daphne II 12/06/86 AS XXI to 06/06/87 AS XXII
A lawsuit is filed against the SCA. Elric ap Moray literally
saves the Society with his legal work.
Outlands becomes a Kingdom.
Estrella III....Aten vs Caid.
Brion III and Anna II 06/06/87 AS XXII to 12/05/87 AS XXII
Artemisia becomes a Principality. Thorfinn is first Prince.
Kveldulfr and Briony 12/05/87 AS XXII to 06/04/88 AS XXIII
Estrella IV....Aten vs Caid.
“THE DYNASTY COMMENCES AGAIN:
Brion IV and Anna III 06/04/88 AS XXIII to 12/03/88 AS XXIII
Trelon IV and Daphne III 12/03/88 AS XXIII to 09/03/89 AS XXIV
The Great Beheading.
Estrella V ....Aten vs Caid.
Brion V and Anna IV 09/03/89 AS XXIV to 03/10/90 AS XXIV
Estrella VI ....Aten vs Caid.
Johnathan Whytewolfe brings a Great Mucking Cannon to the War.
Caid is -very- surprised!
Mark I and Jaquelline I 03/10/90 AS XXIV to 09/01/90 AS XXV
“THE BRION/THORFINN DYNASTY:
Thorfinn I and Sarah I 09/01/90 AS XXV to 03/??/91 AS XXV
Estrella VII ....Aten vs Caid.
Brion VI and Anna V 03/??/91 AS XXV to 09/07/91 AS XXVI
Thorfinn II and Sarah II 09/07/91 AS XXVI to 03/ /92 AS XXVI
Mark II and Jaquelline II 03/ /92 AS XXVI to AS XXVII
Respectfully submitted, with apoligies for my aged and decrepit memory:
(please correct me if I am wrong in dating)
-Ioseph of Locksley
needed: when did Mons Tinitris become a Barony?
when did Loch Salann and 1000 Eyes become Baronies?
From: sandradodd at aol.com (SandraDodd)
Subject: Re: Crowns, Coronets, & Law
Date: 12 Nov 1994 13:40:38 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
In article <3a0dcn$7r6 at netaxs.com>, blktauna at netaxs.com (Donna Bowers)
writes: <<Asking for a clarification of how a fillet can be construed as
a coronet and telling a whole kingdom they have to change their rules are
two entirely different things...
As far as this Easterner is concerned, your kingdom is yours to run as
you please, I just wanted to know why that particular custom came about
and how those two metal items could be confused with each other. >>
I actually know the answer to the question: Many years ago, when there
were five kingdoms and Caid and Ansteorra were just about to become
independent, Atenveldt was deciding about coronets, at the request of the
steward (Bevin Fraser) and because of a few minor misunderstandings about
viscounts and "crown barons" (don't ask) and so there were discussions,and
drafts, and influential campaigners. I was Seneschal of Atenveldt, but
not yet a peer. Baldwin of Erebor was Aten Herald and maybe had just
become a peer, but maybe not quite yet.
There were countesses and duchesses in a certain influential neighborhood
(not mine) who were accustomed to wearing decorative wires (1/8 inch
bands) as their coronets, and they neither had nor wanted fancier
This, I believe, without the filling in of any particular gossipy details,
is the basis of the situation. It ended up affecting the Outlands, but
not Ansteorra, as Ansteorra was too busy hatching their new kingdom to pay
attention to this round of discussions. Ansteorra allows coronets for
AoA's (I believe) and *elaborate* coronets for Court Barons.
AElflaed of Duckford, feeling suddenly really old
From: djheydt at uclink.berkeley.edu (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject: Re: Kingdoms that used to be in the East Kingdom
Date: 3 Jul 1996 22:23:34 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
[Hal posting from Dorothy's account....]
In article <4re4gj$m71 at news.emi.com>, C. Clark <cclark at vicon.net> wrote:
>Principality of Atenveldt (which soon turned into a
Atenveldt started as a Barony of the West. They petitioned to
become a Principality a few years later, and eventually became
the first kingdom to be formally split off from an existing
From: amazing at mail.utexas.edu (dennis grace)
To: bryn-gwlad at eden.com
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:47:26 -0500
Subject: Re: From the Seneschale
Warlord Dieter wrote:
>With the support of the southern principality and the new vigor that these
>factors produce in the populus, the principality grew both in membership and
>in other intangible ways- (Sir Lyonel, I think you might best cover this
>area) Artemesia became a proud place with a strong membership despite the
>low population density.
And I must concur. It's hard to argue with the facts.
The region of Artemisia, despite including Montana, Utah, all of Idaho but
the panhandle, and the Western Slope portions of Wyoming and Colorado, only
tenuously had the necessary population to maintain a principality (circa
1986). We had one barony (Loch Salann, in Salt Lake City); active, healthy
shires only in Green River, Idaho Falls, Boise, Bozeman, and Missoula; and
incipient shires or dying shires in another perhaps ten small cities. The
fact of our sparse population had many in the BoD convinced we'd never be
able to maintain the numbers necessary to retain Principality status.
We made becoming a principality our rallying cry. First, we established the
Barony of 1000 Eyes in Idaho Falls, an effort which, itself, required much
rallying and crying (after all, Idaho Falls only has a polulation of
50,000). Shortly thereafter, with concerted efforts at recruitment, demos,
and advertising, we boosted the regional population to 275 in time for
consideration for principality status. In the next few months, Sentinels
Keep (Missoula) and Arn Hold (Boise) advanced to baronial status and the
number of active shires doubled. I know this might seem to verify one of
the frequently expressed fears concerning principality formation, but the
Principality of Artemisia is now about to become the Kingdom of Artemisia;
they have their first Crown Tourney scheduled for April. (Artemisia's
reasons for the split have nothing to do with their status as a
Principality, but I think the impending split gives a good idea of their
growth since becoming a principality).
Yours in Virtual Service
Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace, Thegn 1000 Eyes
Dennis G. Grace
Division of Rhetoric and Composition
University of Texas
From: "Sandra B. McDaniel" <fretknot at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kingdom names
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:10:12 -0700
> > The name was made up from the Egyptian "aten" for "sun" and Dutch(?)
> > "veldt" for "plains".
> Those were the glory days of SCA name-creation. :-)
Like many other things in the SCA, Atenveldt's name was chosen on the
spur of the moment. Richard Ironsteed was encouraged to choose a name,
(preferably non-directional) "right now". For reasons unknown to Rick or
anybody else back then, it was pronounced with the long 'A' from the
Subject: ANST - Atenveldt History
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 99 13:05:49 MST
From: leigh- at primenet.com
To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG, artemisia at server.umt.edu,
atenveldt at atenveldt.org,
sca-caid at galaxy.csuchico.edu, outlands at mail.unm.edu,
sca-east at world.std.com, sca-chroniclers at dnaco.net
Chronicle of Atenveldt
History of the Kingdom from 1969 to 1995, including all the
Principalities that once were part of the Kingdom and are now Kingdoms
Perma-bound with a color cover, the book contains not only the
history, but the reigns of all kings and queens, princes and
princesses of all principalities, cartoons which appeared in various
issues of Southwind. All the major kingdom office holders are listed,
plus early hard suit fighting rules, archery rules, rapier rules, a
section devoted to the Military History of the Kingdom, which includes
accounts of Estrella Wars.
364 pages, 8*x11, compiled by Mistress Catriona Macpherson,
AKA Milly McCloskey.
Copies are available (at cost) from Milly McCloskey, 14228 N. 45h
Drive, Glendale AZ 85306-4500 for $10.00 plus $4.00 shipping/handling.
There are a limited number of copies available and this is the last
printing. This volume is useful for fairly new members to learn about
their kingdom and a perfect way for older members to reminisce.
Email replies to millymcc at primenet.com
From: katerinfg at hotmail.com (Kathy Fitz)
Subject: Atenveldt regalia stolen
Date: 30 Oct 2003 11:11:30 -0800
Forwarded from the Middlebridge:
Count Denis of the Titans writes:
His Majesty of Atenveldt has suffered a theft of regalia from his
vehicle. Missing are the King's crown and signet ring, the sword of
state and other items. Would those of you who follow on-line auctions
please be on the look-out for these items. Thank you.
Denis of the Titans - Atenveldt
Unto the populace who read these letters ~
It is with great sadness that we tell you our vehicle was broken
into and in addition to our personal belongings, several items of
regalia were stolen including:
His Majesties Crown and Signet Ring, King's Blood, the Kingdom
Scroll Case and the very beautiful blue velvet banners.
We are heartbroken and, of course, frantically contacting pawn shops
across the valley (after extensive descriptions with the police and
an immediate claim to our homeowners insurance.) We wish it known
that in NO WAY do we believe this was done by an SCA person, and let
us all pray that these items show up on EBay or in a pawn shop so
that they may be retrieved. We thank those of you who have been so
patient and supportive as we have been advising people along the way
of the incident.
So much for this being the easy week, but it's better than a million
other things that could have happened.
Erick and Nichelle
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat <mordonna22 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: Creative Supplimentation
To: SCA Cooks <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
I started in the SCA in Atenveldt (Greater Phoenix, AZ). There are
three baronies, a College, and a Shire all within an hours drive, but
the rest of the Kingdom is spread out over a huge area. (There are
nearly 5 million people in Arizona, but 3 million of them live in the GPA).
Weekend camping events are the norm. A few of the larger summer time
events are held in Halls, with no camping (ever try sleeping in a tent
when the midnight temperature is over 100 degrees F.?) The camping
events seemed to be about 50/50 with feasts, and the Hall events all
had feasts. Sometimes the camping feasts were included with the site
fee, the Hall events very seldom included feast with the site fee.
Because Atenveldt is a predominantly urban population, supplementing
with wild game or home grown vegetables was seldom done, although
locally grown lamb has been used.
I moved to Meridies two years ago. My biggest culture shock was
finding that weekend events here almost always include cabins, and
people are reluctant to attend camping events in more primitive
settings where cabins are not available. How can cement block cabins
and swimming pools onsite add to the Medieval atmosphere? Also, the
population is much more spread out, and one does not get the
opportunity to fraternize with royalty that one experiences in
Lady Anne du Bosc
known as Mordonna the Cook
Shire of Thorngill, Meridies
Mundanely, Millbrook, AL
From: Douglas Schreffler <dschref at swbell.net>
Date: August 30, 2006 3:19:25 PM CDT
To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad <bryn-gwlad at ansteorra.org>
Subject: [Bryn-gwlad] Lord Douglas' Fractured History O' Combat Archery
As a historical aside;
I had the dubious privilege of being present when combat archery was first attempted (I think) back in '73 or '74 at the Second Burro Creek War between the Kingdom of the West and the Kingdom of Atenveldt (I think it became the Estrella War, which sounds better). I was in the Principality of Caid, fighting against a bunch of people from the uncouth name of the Principality of Ansteorra. As Uther had mentioned, this was before authorizations and pretty much before any actual armor requirements. My armor consisted of a Kirby barrel helm (which I still have), hockey gloves, and "armor" with the powder blue shag carpeting inside and "Monsanto Wearever" boldly blazoned across my chest. Somebody suggested we try combat archery. There were no poundage limitations on the bows, and nobody had crossbows...though there were some nasty-looking pink neon fiberglass longbows present. Combat arrows consisted of any shaft you happened to have out of whatever material they were made out of, with a disc of foam rubber duck-taped to the top after you sawed off the point. An hour before the first battle, the marshal decided that all fighters must cover all eye and other helm openings with chicken wire. As chicken wire was not readily available at 8am on a Saturday in a rural state park, this resulted in the marshal being stuffed in a convenient dumpster and the battle going forth.
After two very HOT hours of our battle commanders "maneuvering their forces" (they were war-gaming devotees) we found Atenveldt and Ansteorra lined up at the foot of a jeep track leading up to the "castle" (water tank). We stood and yelled naughty things at each other for another 30 minutes. Then, Hagar the Bear, a very large, very furry Caidan, who wore minimal armor and had driven all that way from LA to smack somebody with a rattan club, got "irked". We of Caid and the West, seeking peaceful negotiations, started chanting "Ha-GAR! Ha-GAR!" mostly because we were bored and to egg Hagar on. Hagar went berserk and charged the Atenveldt line, taking out a half-dozen of the opposing force before dying (mostly by landing on them) and opening a hole in the shield wall. The combat archers (all six of them) got one flight off before the rest of Caid and the West ignored their battle commanders and followed Hagar, most of us merrily jumping up and down on the arrows so they couldn't be used again...not that we acknowledged the strikes in the first place.
Caid and the West won gloriously (or, at least, that's what I remembered after several bottles of Ripple Pagan Pink wine) and thus combat archery was born, having developed into what it is today.
So, my recommendation is...anybody know whether Ripple Pagan Pink is still manufactured and where I could buy several cases?
Lord Douglas "Is that a pink neon fiberglass longbow or are you just happy to see me" Lion.
From: Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com>
Date: August 30, 2006 5:05:20 PM CDT
To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Lord Douglas' Fractured History O' Combat
> As a historical aside;
> I had the dubious privilege of being present when combat archery was
> first attempted (I think) back in '73 or '74 at the Second Burro
> Creek War between the Kingdom of the West and the Kingdom of
> Atenveldt (I think it became the Estrella War, which sounds better).
The first Burro Creek War was in February of AS 12--1978 (I have some
rather painful memories of the drive out there and back in a couple
of RV's towing trailers full of gear) so #2 would have been in 1979.
I'd made up several dozen combat arrows for Burro Creek 1, only to be
told when we got there that combat archery wouldn't be allowed.
> I was in the Principality of Caid, fighting against a bunch of
> people from the uncouth name of the Principality of Ansteorra. As
> Uther had mentioned, this was before authorizations and pretty much
> before any actual armor requirements. My armor consisted of a
> Kirby barrel helm (which I still have), hockey gloves, and "armor"
> with the powder blue shag carpeting inside and "Monsanto Wearever"
> boldly blazoned across my chest. Somebody suggested we try combat
> archery. There were no poundage limitations on the bows, and
> nobody had crossbows...though there were some nasty-looking pink
> neon fiberglass longbows present. Combat arrows consisted of any
> shaft you happened to have out of whatever material they were made
> out of, with a disc of foam rubber duck-taped to the top after you
> sawed off the point. An hour before the first battle, the marshal
> decided that all fighters must cover all eye and other helm
> openings with chicken wire. As chicken wire was not readily
> available at 8am on a Saturday in a rural state park, this resulted
> in the marshal being stuffed in a convenient dumpster and the
> battle going forth.
There actually *was* combat archery happening before that--one of my
first events was a "Clan War" at Buescher State Park over Labor Day
weekend in AS 11, which had combat archery in several melees. At that
event, the archers had to wear fencing masks and were "touch kill"
for the armored fighters. Most arrows has 2" solid rubber balls
fiber-taped in place for heads, which made bounce-backs *really*
exciting if they hit something solid. As you said, there weren't any
real rules for things like bow poundage or armor requirements. (Hey,
most of us were college kids, which meant we were immortal, right?
<G>) In March of AS 11, the Society Marshal, Duke Andrew of Seldom
Rest, issued a ban on, among other things, fencing and archery at
human targets, which implies that combat archery was happening in
more places than just proto-Ansteorra.
> After two very HOT hours of our battle commanders "maneuvering
> their forces" (they were war-gaming devotees) we found Atenveldt
> and Ansteorra lined up at the foot of a jeep track leading up to
> the "castle" (water tank).
Oh, lord, I remember that from Burro Creek 1: marching here, marching
there, marching somewhere else in the sand and cactus for quite a
long time before anybody got to throw a blow. Fortunately I was
marshalling, rather than fighting, so It wasn't as bad as the woods
battle at Gulf War 1.
(I wonder if mastadons would qualify as targets in the Hunt?)