callig-suppl-msg - 10/15/99 ਀ഊDiscussions of calligraphy supplies for beginners and the more advanced. Vender reviews. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: calligraphy-msg, inks-msg, gold-leaf-msg, iwandpc-msg, mailng-scrols-msg, quills-msg, sealing-wax-msg, parchment-msg, pasteboard-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: joshua at paul.rutgers.edu (Joshua Mittleman) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㄀ 一漀瘀 㠀㤀 ㄀㘀㨀㐀㜀㨀　㄀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊ ਀䜀爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀 甀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 最漀漀搀 昀漀氀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀 刀椀愀氀琀漀⸀ ഊ ਀䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 刀愀礀愀栀 䈀氀愀挀欀猀琀愀爀 栀愀猀 挀漀洀瀀椀氀攀搀 愀 氀椀猀琀 漀昀 洀愀椀氀漀爀搀攀爀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 昀漀爀ഊscribes. These catalogs featurebooks, supplies, etc. I have added a ਀昀攀眀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀 愀渀搀 甀瀀搀愀琀攀搀 䜀攀漀爀最攀 䈀爀愀稀椀氀氀攀爀✀猀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀⸀ 圀栀攀渀ഊyou get the catalogs, check the prices carefully. I have seen books ਀最漀 昀漀爀 ␀㐀㔀 椀渀 漀渀攀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀琀栀攀渀 ␀㈀㐀 椀渀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀⸀  䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 最漀漀搀ഊsource for books can be your local library's weekend book sale ਀⠀最攀琀琀栀攀爀攀 攀愀爀氀礀⤀ 漀爀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 礀攀愀爀 椀渀瘀攀渀琀漀爀礀 挀氀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀 猀愀氀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀ഊmall B. Dalton or Waldenbooks. Often theyspecial order books for ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀栀愀琀 搀漀渀✀琀 攀瘀攀爀 瀀椀挀欀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 甀瀀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 最攀琀 搀甀洀瀀攀搀ഊ(after a while)onto the cheap table. ਀ ഊ ਀䌀攀渀琀攀爀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 䌀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀椀挀 䄀爀琀猀 ഊPO Box 8005 ਀圀椀挀栀椀琀愀Ⰰ 䬀匀 㘀㜀㈀　㠀 ഊ Journal-bimonthly magazine. Research article on Calligraphy or ਀爀攀氀愀琀攀搀 愀爀琀猀 椀渀 攀愀挀栀 椀猀猀甀攀⸀匀甀戀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀猀 ␀㄀㔀 愀 礀攀愀爀 唀匀 愀渀搀 䌀愀渀愀搀愀 ⠀唀匀ഊcurrency). Back issues available. ਀ ഊBarnes & Noble ਀㄀㈀㘀 䘀椀昀琀栀 䄀瘀攀 ഊNew York, NY 10011 ਀     刀攀挀攀椀瘀攀 挀漀氀漀爀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 漀昀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀 戀漀漀欀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀⸀ 䨀甀猀琀 猀攀渀搀 椀渀ഊname and address and request forcatalog. Will find occasional books ਀琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 甀猀攀 椀渀 椀琀⸀ 唀瀀搀愀琀攀猀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 猀攀渀琀⸀   ഊ ਀ഊThe Scholar's Bookshelf ਀㔀㄀ 䔀瘀攀爀攀琀琀 䐀爀 ഊPrinceton Jct. NJ 08550 ਀     伀栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀猀攀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 愀爀攀 愀 搀爀攀愀洀 昀椀渀搀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀昀 栀漀甀爀猀ഊand illumination you want. It's aheavy duty source for scribal art ਀戀漀漀欀猀 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 爀攀氀愀琀攀搀 愀爀琀猀⸀ 匀愀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 甀瀀搀愀琀攀猀 猀攀渀琀 昀漀爀攀瘀攀爀 漀渀挀攀ഊyouorder (and you will). Prices range from $5 to $5000, we're talking ਀爀攀愀氀氀礀 栀攀愀瘀礀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 栀攀爀攀⸀ 䔀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 攀瘀攀爀 琀漀氀搀 愀渀搀 最椀瘀攀渀 愀ഊcatalog of this place to has said terrible things to me and then ਀最氀攀攀昀甀氀氀礀 琀栀爀甀猀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 氀愀琀攀猀琀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀 甀渀搀攀爀 洀礀 渀漀猀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀⸀   ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀 一攀愀氀Ⰰ 䈀漀漀欀猀攀氀氀攀爀 ഊ1833 Spring Garden St. ਀䜀爀攀攀渀猀戀漀爀漀Ⰰ 一䌀 ㈀㜀㐀　㌀ ഊ Another dream staple of every scribe. Catalog is $2.50 on ਀渀攀眀猀瀀爀椀渀琀 愀渀搀 眀漀爀琀栀 攀瘀攀爀礀 瀀攀渀渀礀⸀ 䈀漀漀欀猀 漀渀攀瘀攀爀礀 猀挀爀椀戀愀氀 琀漀瀀椀挀 圀䤀吀䠀ഊcommentaries. HONEST commentaries, not just to sell you the book. ਀匀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀Ⰰ瀀愀瀀攀爀⸀ 䄀氀猀漀 栀愀猀 愀 氀攀琀琀攀爀椀渀最 愀爀琀猀 挀氀甀戀 琀栀愀琀 猀攀渀搀猀 礀漀甀 琀栀攀ഊcatalog and you receive reduced membership priceson certain items ਀⠀␀㜀⸀㔀　 唀匀Ⰰ 䌀愀渀愀搀愀 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 ␀㠀⸀㔀　 昀漀爀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀栀椀瀀⸀ ∀䌀愀渀愀搀椀愀渀 愀渀搀ഊEnglish customers maysend checks in their currency--please figure ਀攀砀挀栀愀渀最攀 愀琀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀 爀愀琀攀⸀∀⤀ 匀甀瀀攀爀 漀渀 搀攀氀椀瘀攀爀礀 漀渀 椀琀攀洀猀Ⰰ 攀瘀攀渀 猀攀渀搀 礀漀甀ഊquick notice if out of stock. ਀ ഊEdward R. Hamilton Bookseller ਀䘀愀氀氀猀 嘀椀氀氀愀最攀Ⰰ 䌀吀 　㘀　㌀㄀ⴀ㔀　　　 ഊ Sigh. They deliver in record time. They have a newspaper catalog ਀圀䤀吀䠀 吀䠀伀唀匀䄀一䐀匀 伀䘀 䈀伀伀䬀匀⸀圀愀渀琀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 爀攀愀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 渀攀砀琀 㠀 搀愀礀猀㼀ഊAnd make yourself a list that goes on and on and on to buy.Write them ਀愀渀搀 愀猀欀 昀漀爀 愀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最⸀ 䌀愀猀栀 漀爀 挀栀攀挀欀 漀渀氀礀⸀ 圀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 眀栀礀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀挀攀猀 䄀刀䔀ഊLOW. Not a lot ofthe illumination books of hours, but you want ਀爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 椀渀 愀氀氀 挀愀琀攀最漀爀椀攀猀㼀 吀栀攀礀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 椀琀⸀ 䔀堀䌀䔀䰀䰀䔀一吀 倀刀䤀䌀䔀匀⸀ 䤀 欀攀攀瀀ഊtrying to cross off all the items on my list and they keep sending me ਀挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 眀椀琀栀 渀攀眀 椀琀攀洀猀⸀  ഊ ਀倀攀渀搀爀愀最漀渀 ഊPO Box 25036 ਀圀漀漀搀戀甀爀礀Ⰰ 䴀一 㔀㔀㄀㈀㔀  䜀漀氀搀 䰀攀愀昀㼀 嘀攀氀氀甀洀㼀 儀甀椀氀氀猀㼀 倀攀渀欀渀椀瘀攀猀㼀 倀攀渀搀爀愀最漀渀ഊhas it all. They will also give you help if you havequestions about ਀眀栀愀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀℀ 䔀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 愀渀搀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 戀礀 洀愀椀氀漀爀搀攀爀 琀栀愀琀ഊI've uncovered forthose hard to find "period" materials. Catalog. ਀䄀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀攀 戀礀 洀愀椀氀 椀昀 漀甀琀 漀昀 猀琀漀挀欀⸀     ഊ ਀一攀眀 夀漀爀欀 䌀攀渀琀爀愀氀 匀甀瀀瀀氀礀 ഊ62 Third Ave. ਀一攀眀 夀漀爀欀Ⰰ 一夀 ㄀　　　㌀  ഊ ਀    䄀猀欀 昀漀爀 瀀愀瀀攀爀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 嘀攀氀氀甀洀Ⰰ 猀栀攀攀瀀猀欀椀渀 攀琀挀⸀ 䠀椀最栀攀爀ഊprices than other catalogs that I've listed. ਀ ഊThames and Hudson ਀㔀　　 䘀椀昀琀栀 䄀瘀攀 ഊNew York, NY 10110 ਀ഊ Send a name and a postcard to this address said the note on the ਀猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀挀漀瘀攀爀 愀渀搀 眀攀 眀椀氀氀猀攀渀搀 礀漀甀 渀攀眀猀 愀渀搀 昀漀爀琀栀挀漀洀椀渀最ഊpublications. DO IT. Beautiful books. Three of them are the most ਀氀漀瘀攀氀礀 漀昀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 䤀 挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀氀礀 甀猀攀 昀漀爀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 ☀ 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀⸀ഊHardcover. Expensive. But send for it anyway, theyare not all ਀攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀⸀⸀⸀樀甀猀琀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀昀攀挀琀 漀渀攀猀⸀      ഊ ਀䜀攀漀爀最攀 䈀爀愀稀椀氀氀攀爀 䤀渀挀⸀ ഊ60 Madison Ave ਀一攀眀 夀漀爀欀Ⰰ 一夀 ㄀　　㄀　 ഊ ਀     吀栀椀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀爀⸀ 夀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 昀爀漀洀 愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊother sources that I have listed, andsometimes cheaper there, as you ਀瀀愀礀 昀甀氀氀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀爀 瀀爀椀挀攀 漀爀搀攀爀椀渀最 搀椀爀攀挀琀⸀ 䈀伀伀䬀匀 䄀刀䔀 䘀伀刀 吀䠀䔀ഊBUDGET MINDED SCRIBE. These have full color paperbacks at reasonable ਀瀀爀椀挀攀猀ⴀ愀瘀攀爀愀最攀 ␀㄀㈀ 昀漀爀 愀 昀甀氀氀 瀀愀瀀攀爀戀愀挀欀 漀昀挀漀氀漀爀 瀀栀漀琀漀最爀愀瀀栀攀搀ഊmanuscripts. Excellent. Get a list from them. ਀ ഊStrand Book Store ਀㠀㈀㠀 䈀爀漀愀搀眀愀礀 ഊNew York, NY 10003 ਀ഊ They bill themselves as the Largest Used Book Store in the World, ਀愀渀搀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 戀攀攀渀 琀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 䤀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀椀琀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最 氀椀猀琀猀 渀攀眀 愀挀焀甀椀猀椀琀椀漀渀猀ഊand specials, but if you write and ask for something special, ਀琀栀攀礀✀氀氀挀栀攀挀欀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀⸀ 䌀愀琀愀氀漀最 栀愀猀 洀愀渀礀 琀礀瀀攀猀 漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 愀爀琀ഊbooks, but check it out. All major creditcards. ਀ ഊNorman Levine's Editions ਀䈀漀椀挀攀瘀椀氀氀攀Ⰰ 一夀 ㄀㈀㐀㄀㈀ ഊ ਀     䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 戀椀最 甀猀攀搀 戀漀漀欀 猀琀漀爀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 氀椀猀琀 洀愀渀礀 琀礀瀀攀猀 漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀ഊbrief descriptions in teeny print. 64pages of books. All are hard ਀挀漀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 愀氀氀 愀爀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 攀搀椀琀椀漀渀猀 漀爀 琀栀攀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 爀攀瀀爀椀渀琀猀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 愀氀猀漀ഊhave booksnot listed in their catalog, so if you know what you want ਀礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 眀爀椀琀攀 愀渀搀 愀猀欀 昀漀爀 椀琀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 眀漀渀✀琀 栀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 爀攀猀攀爀瘀攀ഊa book pending receipt of your check. ਀ ഊDover Publications ਀㌀㄀ 䔀愀猀琀 ㈀渀搀 匀琀⸀ ഊMineola, NY 11501 ਀ഊ They are the ones who are putting out Marc Drogin's book ਀开䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䌀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀Ⰰ 椀琀猀 搀攀猀椀最渀 愀渀搀琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀开 琀栀攀 戀椀戀氀攀 漀昀 猀挀爀椀戀攀猀ഊin the SCA. It is due in their bookstore at 180 Varick St, New York, ਀一夀愀昀琀攀爀 一漀瘀攀洀戀攀爀 ㄀㜀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 戀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 戀礀 洀愀椀氀ഊnow too. Ask for their catalogs ofPictorial Archive books (art which ਀挀愀渀 戀攀 爀攀瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀搀 昀爀攀攀氀礀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 氀漀挀愀氀 渀攀眀猀氀攀琀琀攀爀猀 琀漀漀℀⤀Ⰰ 䄀爀琀ഊInstructionbooks, Art books in general, and I think they even have a ਀挀愀琀愀氀漀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 㔀　 漀爀 猀漀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 琀栀攀礀 瀀甀琀 漀甀琀℀䌀栀攀愀瀀 戀漀漀欀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀ഊusually reprints of sources that went out of print a while ago. ਀ഊ These sources are all mailorder. I have a hobby of finding out ਀洀愀椀氀漀爀搀攀爀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 椀渀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 氀椀昀攀⸀吀栀攀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 氀椀猀琀攀搀 昀漀爀ഊscribes I have been using for about 5 years, and passing them onto ਀礀漀甀爀 瀀漀挀欀攀琀戀漀漀欀⸀ 䴀椀渀攀 椀猀 攀洀瀀琀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 愀爀琀 昀氀漀甀爀椀猀栀攀猀⸀ 圀爀椀琀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀洀ഊall, and be oh so sorry... they have such lovely things you've been ਀氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀⸀      ഊ ਀                   伀爀椀最椀渀愀氀氀礀 挀漀洀瀀椀氀攀搀 戀礀  ഊ Mistress Rayah Blackstar ਀                   爀攀瀀爀椀渀琀攀搀 愀渀搀 愀搀搀攀搀 琀漀 戀礀 ഊ Lady Fionnghuala Siobhan nic an Chlerich ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 氀攀攀 愀琀 猀焀⸀猀焀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䰀椀愀洀 刀⸀ 䔀⸀ 儀甀椀渀⤀ഊDate: 20 Nov 89 23:36:52 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀砀猀礀猀 ⠀唀䬀⤀ 䰀琀搀ഊ ਀瘀愀氀椀搀℀氀椀洀攀礀℀氀礀渀渀 愀琀 匀唀一⸀䌀伀䴀 ⠀䰀礀渀渀 䴀攀礀攀爀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>David Herron (David le casse) writes: ਀㸀㸀 挀漀甀氀搀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 瀀漀猀琀 愀 戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀礀 漀昀 甀猀攀昀甀氀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀 甀猀攀氀攀猀猀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀ഊ>> doing calligraphy and/or illumination? (the useless books so we'll ਀㸀㸀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀⤀ഊ ਀匀漀爀爀礀 椀昀 猀漀洀攀 漀爀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 戀攀攀渀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 ⴀⴀ 䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 猀攀攀 愀渀礀ഊearlier articles. ਀ഊThe best source I have found for calligraphy, illumination, wrting, lettering ਀愀渀搀 椀渀猀挀爀椀戀椀渀最 ⠀猀琀漀渀攀ⴀ挀愀爀瘀椀渀最⤀ 眀愀猀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 樀甀猀琀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 琀甀爀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀Ⰰഊand is still very much in print. It is ਀        䔀搀眀愀爀搀 䨀漀栀渀猀琀漀渀ഊ Writing And Illuminating And Lettering ਀䨀漀栀渀猀琀漀渀 搀攀猀椀最渀攀搀 琀栀攀 氀攀琀琀攀爀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䰀漀渀搀漀渀ഊUnbderground, but, more importantly, played a major part in the revival in ਀䈀爀椀琀愀椀渀 漀昀 䌀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀 愀渀搀 䤀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 愀猀 愀爀琀 昀漀爀洀猀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀猀 洀愀渀礀 瀀氀愀琀攀猀 愀渀搀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀 漀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 焀甀椀氀氀ഊpens, on grinding Chinese Stick Ink (OK, I know it's not complex), on ਀瀀爀攀瀀愀爀椀渀最ഊvellum and parchment (expensive!), on gilding (illuminating with gold leaf), ਀愀渀搀 洀愀渀礀Ⰰ 洀愀渀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 漀昀 栀椀猀 瀀甀瀀椀氀猀Ⰰ 䜀爀愀椀氀礀 䠀攀眀椀琀琀 ⠀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀瀀攀氀琀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀氀礀⤀ഊalso pubilshed books, which I still see from time to time. ਀ഊThis book is probably a `must' for people interested in mediaevel culture ਀愀渀搀 椀渀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀Ⰰ 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀愀渀琀椀渀最 琀漀 氀攀愀爀渀⸀ഊNote that his style looks a little dated now, as people would generally ਀甀猀攀 愀 氀愀爀最攀爀 砀ⴀ栀攀椀最栀琀 愀渀搀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀爀 猀攀爀椀昀猀 椀渀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀椀挀 眀爀椀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊotherwise (and this is a very small point) the work still stands. ਀ഊLee ਀ⴀⴀ ഊLiam R. Quin, Unixsys (UK) Ltd [note: not an employee of "sq" - a visitor!] ਀氀攀攀 愀琀 猀焀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀圀栀椀氀猀琀 瘀椀猀椀琀椀渀最 䌀愀渀愀搀愀 昀爀漀洀 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀⤀ഊlee at anduk.co.uk (Upon my return to England at Christmas) ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䘀刀䔀一䌀䠀䈀䌀 愀琀 䌀吀刀嘀堀㄀⸀嘀䄀一䐀䔀刀䈀䤀䰀吀⸀䔀䐀唀ഊDate: 8 Jan 90 18:30:00 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 匀漀挀椀攀琀礀 昀漀爀 䌀爀攀愀琀椀瘀攀 䄀渀愀挀栀爀漀渀椀猀洀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀ഊFrom Cait Gordon, greetings yet again . . . ਀  ഊBelow are listed some addresses of books and materials for scribes. If you ਀搀漀渀✀琀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 最攀琀 琀栀攀猀攀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀Ⰰ 最攀琀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 氀椀猀琀 眀愀猀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀搀 昀漀爀 洀攀ഊby Mistress Rayah Blackstar, and now I'm passing them on, with her ਀挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀ഊ ਀䈀伀伀䬀匀ഊ ਀䌀攀渀琀攀爀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 䌀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀椀挀 䄀爀琀猀ഊPO Box 8005 ਀圀椀挀栀椀琀愀Ⰰ 䬀匀 㘀㜀㈀　㠀ഊ Journal, bi-monthly magazine. Research article on calligraphy or ਀爀攀氀愀琀攀搀 愀爀琀猀 椀渀 攀愀挀栀 椀猀猀甀攀⸀  匀甀戀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀猀 ␀㄀㔀 愀 礀攀愀爀 唀匀 愀渀搀 䌀愀渀愀搀愀ഊ(US funds). Back issues available. ਀  ഊBarnes & Noble ਀㄀㈀㘀 䘀椀昀琀栀 䄀瘀攀渀甀攀ഊNew York, NY 10011 ਀     䘀爀攀攀 挀漀氀漀爀 戀漀漀欀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最⸀  匀攀渀搀 渀愀洀攀 愀渀搀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 漀渀 愀 瀀漀猀琀挀愀爀搀㬀 眀椀氀氀ഊfind occasional books that you can use. Updates always sent. ਀  ഊThe Scholar's Bookshelf ਀㔀㄀ 䔀瘀攀爀攀琀琀 䐀爀椀瘀攀ഊPrinceton Junction, NJ 08550 ਀     伀栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀猀攀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 愀爀攀 愀 搀爀攀愀洀 昀椀渀搀℀  吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 䈀漀漀欀猀 漀昀 䠀漀甀爀猀 愀渀搀 愀氀氀ഊ ਀猀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀昀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 眀愀渀琀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 愀 栀攀愀瘀礀ⴀ搀甀琀礀ഊsource for scribal art books and related arts. Sales and updates sent ਀昀漀爀攀瘀攀爀 愀昀琀攀爀 昀椀爀猀琀 漀爀搀攀爀 ⠀愀渀搀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 漀爀搀攀爀℀⤀⸀  倀爀椀挀攀猀 爀愀渀最攀 昀爀漀洀 昀椀瘀攀ഊto five thousand dollars -- we're talking really heavy sources here. ਀䔀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 攀瘀攀爀 琀漀氀搀 愀渀搀 最椀瘀攀渀 愀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 瀀氀愀挀攀 栀愀猀 猀愀椀搀ഊterrible verbal things to me and then gleefully thrust their latest purchase ਀甀渀搀攀爀 洀礀 渀漀猀攀 昀漀爀 洀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀⸀ഊ ਀䔀搀眀愀爀搀 刀⸀ 䠀愀洀椀氀琀漀渀Ⰰ 䈀漀漀欀猀攀氀氀攀爀ഊFalls Village, CT 06031-5000 ਀     匀椀最栀⸀  吀栀攀礀 搀攀氀椀瘀攀爀 椀渀 爀攀挀漀爀搀 琀椀洀攀⸀  吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 渀攀眀猀瀀愀瀀攀爀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最 眀椀琀栀ഊTHOUSANDS OF BOOKS. Want somethi ਀渀最 琀漀 爀攀愀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 渀攀砀琀 攀椀最栀琀 搀愀礀猀ഊ ਀ഊ? Make ਀礀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀 愀 氀椀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 最漀攀猀 漀渀 愀渀搀 漀渀 愀渀搀 漀渀 琀漀 戀甀礀⸀  圀爀椀琀攀 琀栀攀洀 愀渀搀 愀猀欀 昀漀爀ഊa catalog. Cash or check ONLY -- which is why prices are LOW. Not a lot ਀漀昀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀昀 栀漀甀爀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 椀渀 愀氀氀 挀愀琀愀最漀爀椀攀猀㼀ഊThey've got it. EXCELLENT PRICES. I keep trying to cross off all the items ਀漀渀 洀礀 氀椀猀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 欀攀攀瀀 猀攀渀搀椀渀最 洀攀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 眀椀琀栀 渀攀眀 椀琀攀洀猀 ⸀ ⸀ ⸀ ഊ ਀吀栀愀洀攀猀 愀渀搀 䠀甀搀猀漀渀ഊ500 Fifth Avenue ਀一攀眀 夀漀爀欀Ⰰ 一夀  ㄀　㄀㄀　ഊ Send postcard for free catalog. DO IT. Beautiful books. Three of them ਀愀爀攀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 氀漀瘀攀氀礀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 䤀 挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀氀礀 甀猀攀 昀漀爀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 ഊcalligraphy (Note: They have a good paperback repro of the Book of Kells ਀琀栀愀琀 椀猀 愀 洀甀猀琀ⴀ戀甀礀 昀漀爀 愀氀氀 䌀攀氀琀椀挀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀漀爀猀 ⴀ䌀愀椀琀⸀⤀  䴀漀猀琀 愀爀攀 栀愀爀搀挀漀瘀攀爀Ⰰഊexpensive. But send for it anyway. Not all are expensive . . . just the ਀瀀攀爀昀攀挀琀 漀渀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䜀攀漀爀最攀 䈀爀愀稀椀氀氀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀⸀ഊOne Park Avenue ਀一攀眀 夀漀爀欀Ⰰ 一夀  ㄀　　㄀㘀ഊ This is the publisher. You can get many of their books from other ਀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀Ⰰഊand sometimes cheaper as you pay full publisher price ordering direct. BOOKS ਀䘀伀刀 吀䠀䔀 䈀唀䐀䜀䔀吀ⴀ䴀䤀一䐀䔀䐀 匀䌀刀䤀䈀䔀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀 栀愀瘀攀 昀甀氀氀 挀漀氀漀爀 瀀愀瀀攀爀戀愀挀欀猀 愀琀ഊreasonable prices -- average twelve dollars for a full-color paperback of ਀挀漀氀漀爀 瀀栀漀琀漀最爀愀瀀栀攀搀 洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀猀⸀  䔀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀⸀  䜀攀琀 愀 氀椀猀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀匀唀倀倀䰀䤀䔀匀 䄀一䐀 䈀伀伀䬀匀ഊ ਀倀䔀一䐀刀䄀䜀伀一ഊPO BOX 25036 ਀圀伀伀䐀䈀唀刀夀Ⰰ 䴀一  㔀㔀㄀㈀㔀ഊ Gold leaf? Vellum? Quills? Dry pigments? Penknives? Pendragon has it ਀愀氀氀℀  吀栀攀礀 眀椀氀氀 愀氀猀漀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 栀攀氀瀀 椀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀ഊ(phone (612) 739-9093). Excellent, and one of the only sources by mail order ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 甀渀挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 栀愀爀搀ⴀ琀漀ⴀ昀椀渀搀 ✀瀀攀爀椀漀搀✀ 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀⸀  䔀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀ഊresponse by mail if out of stock. (GET THIS CATALOG . . . but your budget ਀眀椀氀氀 渀漀琀 氀漀瘀攀 礀漀甀 昀漀爀 椀琀 ⴀ䌀愀椀琀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀 一攀愀氀Ⰰ 䈀漀漀欀猀攀氀氀攀爀ഊ1833 Spring Garden Street ਀䜀爀攀攀渀猀戀漀爀漀Ⰰ 一䌀 ㈀㜀㐀　㌀ഊ Another dream staple of every scribe. Catalog is $2.50 US funds on ਀渀攀眀猀瀀爀椀渀琀 愀渀搀 眀漀爀琀栀 攀瘀攀爀礀 瀀攀渀渀礀⸀  䈀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 攀瘀攀爀礀 猀挀爀椀戀愀氀 琀漀瀀椀挀⸀  匀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀Ⰰഊpaper. Also a lettering arts club that sends you the catalog and you ਀爀攀挀攀椀瘀攀 爀攀搀甀挀攀搀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀栀椀瀀ⴀ瀀爀椀挀攀猀 漀渀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 椀琀攀洀猀 ⠀洀攀洀戀攀爀猀栀椀瀀 ␀㜀⸀㔀　 唀匀Ⰰഊ$8.50 Canada and others, US funds). Super on delivery time and notice if ਀漀甀琀 漀昀 猀琀漀挀欀⸀ഊ ਀一攀眀 夀漀爀欀 䌀攀渀琀爀愀氀 匀甀瀀瀀氀礀ഊ62 Third Street ਀一攀眀 夀漀爀欀Ⰰ 一夀ഊ Good papers. Higher prices than other catalogs listed. ਀  ഊ***************************************************************************** ਀⸀⸀⸀䰀愀搀礀 䌀愀椀琀爀椀渀 䜀漀爀搀漀渀Ⰰ 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 䜀氀愀攀搀攀渀昀攀氀搀Ⰰ 䴀攀爀椀搀椀攀猀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: DICKSNR%QUCDN.BITNET at MITVMA.MIT.EDU ("Ross M. Dickson") ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㌀ 䘀攀戀 㤀　 　㌀㨀㔀㜀㨀　　 䜀䴀吀 ഊOrganization: Society for Creative Anachronism ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊ ਀⼀⨀ 䄀 瀀爀攀氀椀洀椀渀愀爀礀 渀漀琀攀 昀爀漀洀 䄀渀最甀猀㨀  匀愀爀爀愀 挀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 搀攀挀椀搀攀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 ⨀⼀ഊ/* this a personal letter to Ciaran or a general posting, and left to me */ ਀⼀⨀ 愀猀 漀眀渀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀漀甀渀琀 琀栀攀 搀攀挀椀猀椀漀渀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 漀爀 渀漀琀 琀漀 瀀漀猀琀⸀  䤀 栀漀瀀攀  ⨀⼀ഊ/* some of you find some of it to be of general interest. */ ਀ഊUnto the Rialto, does Sarra Graeham, Midrealm scribe, send greetings: ਀ഊMilord Ciaran gently requests: ਀ഊ> Unto the subject of scribing: ਀㸀 䄀渀礀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 挀漀甀氀搀 最椀瘀攀 洀攀 愀 氀椀猀琀 漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀 昀漀爀 戀攀最椀渀渀椀渀最 猀挀爀椀戀攀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀ഊ> greatly appreciated. A list of necessary tools would be welcome, too. ਀ഊI posted a brief list of books a few months ago, as did other people, but ਀琀栀愀琀 椀猀 愀 氀漀渀最 琀椀洀攀 椀渀 刀椀愀氀琀漀 最攀渀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 ⠀挀愀渀 礀漀甀 椀洀愀最椀渀攀 愀 昀漀爀甀洀 眀椀琀栀ഊa turnover rate that makes the SCA generation look like the lifetime of ਀琀栀攀 最漀搀猀㼀 㬀ⴀ⤀Ⰰ 猀漀 栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀 猀栀漀爀琀 爀攀挀愀瀀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 ⨀䈀䔀匀吀⨀ 戀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 愀 戀攀最椀渀渀椀渀最 猀挀爀椀戀攀 椀猀Ⰰ ∀䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䌀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀㨀  䤀琀猀ഊHistory and Technique," by Marc Drogin. It is available in hardcover from ਀䄀氀氀愀渀栀攀氀搀 愀渀搀 匀挀栀爀愀洀 椀渀 洀漀猀琀 氀愀爀最攀 氀椀戀爀愀爀椀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 攀搀椀ⴀഊtion in paperback from Dover Books. It has everything you need to know ਀愀戀漀甀琀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀Ⰰ 猀瀀愀渀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀 礀攀愀爀猀 昀爀漀洀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㌀　　 ⴀ ㄀㐀㔀　 䄀䐀Ⰰ ഊwith careful instruction on how to form each of the letters, pictures of ਀琀栀攀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀猀 栀攀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 昀爀漀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀渀 攀渀琀攀爀琀愀椀渀椀渀最 愀渀搀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀瘀攀 ഊhistory of script. There is also an extensive bibliography. ਀ ഊUnfortunately, Drogin doesn't deal with illumination at all. If you are ਀椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 䌀攀氀琀椀挀 ⠀漀昀琀攀渀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 ∀䤀渀猀甀氀愀爀∀⤀ 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 戀漀漀欀ഊfor you to get is a book by George Bain, called "Celtic Art: The Methods ਀漀昀 䌀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ∀ 愀最愀椀渀 昀爀漀洀 䐀漀瘀攀爀 倀甀戀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  吀栀椀猀 戀漀漀欀 椀猀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀瀀椀ⴀഊlation of six pamplets written for British schoolchildren in the 1940(?)'s ਀戀礀 琀栀攀 愀爀琀椀猀琀 眀栀漀 昀椀爀猀琀 甀渀爀愀瘀攀氀氀攀搀 樀甀猀琀 眀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 䌀攀氀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 ⨀搀漀椀渀最⨀ഊ(I've often wondered myself :-), and the level is good for a beginner. ਀ഊOther than that, I suggest you look at books of actual manuscripts, to ਀最攀琀 愀 昀攀攀氀椀渀最 昀漀爀 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀⸀  䜀攀漀爀最攀 䈀爀愀稀椀氀氀攀爀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀猀 愀 猀攀爀椀攀猀ഊof paperback colour picture books on period manuscripts covering most ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀猀 愀渀搀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 漀昀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 漀渀氀礀 琀栀攀ഊfanciest of manuscripts, so try not to get lost in the detail while you ਀愀爀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 戀攀最椀渀渀椀渀最Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀爀礀 琀漀 最攀琀 愀渀 漀瘀攀爀瘀椀攀眀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀⸀ഊ ਀圀椀琀栀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀漀 琀漀漀氀猀 愀渀搀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 愀 瀀攀渀 愀渀搀 椀渀欀⸀  䤀 爀攀ⴀഊcommend that you start with a dip pen. Try Speedball C-series nibs, size ਀㌀ 漀爀 㐀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀搀 栀漀氀搀攀爀㬀 琀栀攀 渀椀戀猀 挀漀猀琀 氀攀猀猀 琀栀愀渀 愀 搀漀氀氀愀爀 愀瀀椀攀挀攀⸀ഊA fountain pen is fine, but more expensive, and most ink made for foun- ਀琀愀椀渀 瀀攀渀猀 椀猀 渀漀琀 猀甀椀琀愀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 猀挀爀漀氀氀猀⸀  䘀漀爀 椀渀欀Ⰰ 䤀 甀猀攀 倀攀氀椀欀愀渀 䘀漀甀渀琀 䤀渀搀椀愀Ⰰഊa permanent black ink that can also be used in fountain pens, but other ਀猀挀爀椀戀攀猀 猀眀攀愀爀 戀礀 䤀渀搀椀愀 椀渀欀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 䌀䄀一一伀吀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 昀漀甀渀琀愀椀渀 瀀攀渀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊmust not be allowed to dry in a nib. Avoid the Sheaffer inks, as they ਀愀爀攀 渀漀琀 瀀攀爀洀愀渀攀渀琀⸀  倀氀愀椀渀 戀漀渀搀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 愀 氀椀渀攀爀 甀渀搀攀爀渀攀愀琀栀 挀愀渀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀ഊfor practice, but for actual scrolls you want to look for 100% cotton rag ਀眀愀琀攀爀挀漀氀漀甀爀 瀀愀瀀攀爀⸀  䄀爀挀栀攀猀 漀爀 䘀愀戀爀椀愀渀漀 愀爀攀 琀眀漀 最漀漀搀 戀爀愀渀搀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀ഊ90 or 140 weight paper. Ask at your local art supply store, where the ਀猀琀愀昀昀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 眀椀琀栀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 䤀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀⸀  䄀瘀漀椀搀Ⰰ 愀瘀漀椀搀Ⰰഊavoid the stuff they sell as calligraphy "parchment" paper, as it is ਀琀爀攀愀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 猀甀氀昀甀爀椀挀 愀挀椀搀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀琀琀氀攀搀 攀昀昀攀挀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 愀挀椀搀 眀椀氀氀ഊrise up and eat your scroll. (I do not jest; ask some of the Carolin- ਀最椀愀渀 昀漀氀欀 栀攀爀攀愀戀漀甀琀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀椀渀最 琀漀 琀栀攀椀爀 挀栀愀爀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀ഊof their valued early documents on this paper.) ਀ഊFor illumination, you need brushes, paint, and gold. When looking for ਀戀爀甀猀栀攀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 琀栀攀洀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 猀洀愀氀氀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 猀椀稀攀 ㈀ 漀爀 ㌀ 昀漀爀 氀愀爀最攀 愀爀攀愀猀ഊdown to size 000 or smaller for detail, in what is called a "teardrop" ਀猀栀愀瀀攀⸀  䈀甀礀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀昀昀漀爀搀 ⠀搀漀渀✀琀 氀攀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀氀攀猀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 戀甀氀氀礀ഊyou), and be prepared to experiment until you find ones you like. For ਀瀀愀椀渀琀Ⰰ 琀爀礀 眀愀琀攀爀挀漀氀漀甀爀 瀀愀椀渀琀猀 漀爀 最漀甀愀挀栀攀猀 椀渀 琀甀戀攀猀⸀  䈀漀琀栀 洀甀猀琀 戀攀 洀椀砀攀搀ഊwith water, but the gouache gives a more opaque and matte effect. Start ਀眀椀琀栀 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 琀甀戀攀 攀愀挀栀 漀昀 䰀愀洀瀀 䈀氀愀挀欀Ⰰ 䌀栀椀渀攀猀攀 漀爀 娀椀渀挀 圀栀椀琀攀Ⰰ 䌀愀搀洀椀甀洀 刀攀搀ഊMedium, Cadmium Yellow Light, (French) Ultramarine Blue, and Viridian for ਀最爀攀攀渀⸀  夀漀甀 挀愀渀 洀椀砀 漀爀 戀甀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 挀漀氀漀甀爀猀 愀猀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀⸀  䜀漀氀搀 最漀甀愀挀栀攀 挀愀渀ഊbe bought which looks quite nice, but I think the nicest gold colour is ਀琀漀 戀攀 最漀琀 昀爀漀洀 圀椀渀搀猀漀爀 一攀眀琀漀渀 最漀氀搀 椀渀欀⸀  䈀漀琀栀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 最漀氀搀猀 愀爀攀 瀀愀椀渀琀攀搀ഊon; gold leafing is an expert technique. I should note, however, that ਀琀栀攀 䌀攀氀琀猀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 甀猀攀 最漀氀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀椀爀 愀爀琀眀漀爀欀⸀ഊ ਀䴀漀猀琀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀猀 漀昀 昀椀氀氀椀渀最 椀渀 挀漀氀漀甀爀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 戀氀愀挀欀 氀椀渀攀猀ഊyou've drawn, so your first efforts with illumination should be rather ਀氀椀欀攀 瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最 椀渀 愀 最氀漀爀椀昀椀攀搀 挀漀氀漀甀爀椀渀最 戀漀漀欀Ⰰ 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 漀瘀攀爀瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀ഊwhite lines to make designs on otherwise rather flat colour. If you need ਀洀漀爀攀 栀攀氀瀀 眀椀琀栀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀 琀栀愀渀 䤀✀瘀攀 最椀瘀攀渀 栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 漀爀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 搀漀ഊscrolls for the Middle Kingdom, you live fairly close to Master Ranthulfr, ਀眀栀漀 椀猀 琀栀攀 搀攀瀀甀琀礀 匀椀最渀攀琀 昀漀爀 䴀椀挀栀椀最愀渀⸀  伀琀栀攀爀 猀挀爀椀戀攀猀 眀栀漀 眀椀猀栀 琀漀 搀漀 氀椀欀攀ⴀഊwise should contact the person who is listed in their Kingdom newsletter ਀愀猀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 䌀氀攀爀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀椀最渀攀琀Ⰰ 漀爀 樀甀猀琀 匀椀最渀攀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀ഊto provide support, or even direct you to someone in your area who knows ਀眀栀愀琀✀猀 最漀椀渀最 漀渀⸀  䈀攀 瀀愀琀椀攀渀琀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀㬀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 戀礀 搀攀昀椀渀椀琀椀漀渀 戀甀猀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀瀀攀 琀栀椀猀 栀攀氀瀀猀 ⠀愀渀搀 眀愀猀渀✀琀 甀渀甀琀琀攀爀愀戀氀礀 戀漀爀椀渀最 琀漀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀     匀愀爀爀愀 䜀爀愀攀栀愀洀Ⰰ 䔀愀氀搀漀爀洀攀爀攀 匀椀最渀攀琀  簀   䠀攀愀琀栀攀爀 䘀爀愀猀攀爀ഊ Canton of Greyfells, Midrealm | Kingston, Ontario, CANADA ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 愀洀愀渀搀愀 愀琀 洀攀爀洀愀椀搀⸀椀渀琀攀爀挀漀渀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䄀洀愀渀搀愀 圀愀氀欀攀爀⤀ഊDate: 15 Feb 90 17:14:41 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䤀渀琀攀爀䌀漀渀 匀礀猀琀攀洀猀 䌀漀爀瀀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 匀琀攀爀氀椀渀最Ⰰ 嘀䄀ഊ ਀䘀刀䔀一䌀䠀䈀䌀 愀琀 䌀吀刀嘀堀㄀⸀嘀䄀一䐀䔀刀䈀䤀䰀吀⸀䔀䐀唀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ> Several scribes (including myself) swear by the ਀㸀 刀漀琀爀椀渀最 䄀爀琀 倀攀渀㨀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 昀漀甀渀琀愀椀渀 瀀攀渀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀⸀  夀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀氀猀漀 最攀琀 愀 ∀挀愀爀琀爀椀搀最攀ഊconverter" which you can fill with Pelikan Fount India, giving you a much ਀戀氀愀挀欀攀爀 猀琀爀漀欀攀 琀栀愀渀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 眀椀琀栀 渀漀爀洀愀氀 挀愀爀琀椀搀最攀 椀渀欀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 ㈀⸀  倀愀椀渀琀ഊ> A cheapo set like Pentel is good for practice. Not for scrolls, but for ਀㸀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀挀攀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 最漀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀 栀愀渀最 漀昀 甀猀椀渀最 愀 戀爀甀猀栀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 愀 ∀猀愀洀瀀氀攀爀 瀀愀挀欀∀ 漀昀ഊdesigner's gouache is well worth it. Cheap watercolors are simply not ਀搀攀猀椀最渀攀搀 琀漀 氀愀礀 搀漀眀渀 愀 昀氀愀琀 氀愀礀攀爀 漀昀 挀漀氀漀爀㬀 最漀甀愀挀栀攀✀猀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 挀栀愀爀愀挀琀攀爀椀猀琀椀挀猀ഊare much nicer. Also, even though it's more expensive that transparent ਀眀愀琀攀爀挀漀氀漀爀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 琀甀甀戀攀 眀椀氀氀 氀愀猀琀 礀漀甀 愀 氀漀渀最 琀椀洀攀⸀ഊ-- ਀䄀洀愀渀搀愀 圀愀氀欀攀爀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: FRENCHBC at CTRVX1.VANDERBILT.EDU ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㐀 䘀攀戀 㤀　 ㄀㠀㨀㄀㠀㨀　　 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀䄀 昀攀眀 洀漀爀攀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀猀 琀漀 匀愀爀爀愀 䜀爀愀攀栀愀洀✀猀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 瀀椀攀挀攀 昀漀爀 戀攀最椀渀渀椀渀最 猀挀爀椀戀攀猀㨀ഊ ਀㄀⸀  䌀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀 瀀攀渀猀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀 ⠀氀椀欀攀 洀攀⤀ 眀栀漀 愀爀攀 琀漀漀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 琀漀 搀攀愀氀 眀椀琀栀 搀椀瀀 瀀攀渀猀 漀爀 栀愀瘀攀ഊother reasons not to use them, fountain pens might be an answer. HOWEVER... ਀琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 最漀漀搀 瀀攀渀猀 愀渀搀 戀愀搀 瀀攀渀猀⸀  匀琀愀礀 愀眀愀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 匀挀栀愀攀昀昀攀爀 愀渀搀 伀猀洀椀爀漀椀搀ഊmodels. The nib steel is too soft and will round out (thus giving you ਀甀渀攀瘀攀渀 氀攀琀琀攀爀猀 ⸀ ⸀ ⸀ 匀瀀攀攀搀戀愀氀氀 渀椀戀猀 眀椀氀氀 搀漀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀栀椀渀最 椀昀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊreplace them often). Plus, the ink is badly inferior: it's not ਀昀愀搀攀ⴀ爀攀猀椀猀琀攀渀琀ഊand in the case of osmiroids, the ink will turn shiny and uneven and all-round ਀昀甀渀渀礀ⴀ氀漀漀欀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 琀椀洀攀⸀  匀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 猀挀爀椀戀攀猀 ⠀椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 洀礀猀攀氀昀⤀ 猀眀攀愀爀 戀礀 琀栀攀ഊRotring Art Pen: the nib can be sharpened nicely, and the ink is good and ਀爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 昀愀搀攀ⴀ爀攀猀椀猀琀攀渀琀⸀  䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 一伀吀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀愀瀀 眀愀礀 漀甀琀⸀  䔀愀挀栀 瀀攀渀ഊcosts about $10 - $15, and you must buy a new pen for each size and style ਀渀椀戀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀⸀  ⠀䤀 甀猀攀 昀漀甀渀琀愀椀渀 瀀攀渀猀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 戀愀搀 愀爀琀栀爀椀琀椀猀 椀渀 洀礀 栀愀渀搀猀 ഊand find that a fountain pen gets me through my work quicker, but dip pens ਀愀渀搀 愀 最漀漀搀 椀渀欀 氀椀欀攀 䠀椀最最椀渀猀 䔀琀攀爀渀愀氀 漀爀 倀攀氀椀欀愀渀 䘀漀甀渀琀 椀猀 猀甀瀀攀爀椀漀爀⸀  䜀漀漀搀 渀椀戀猀 ഊare also Hiro, Brause and Rexell). ਀   ഊNOTE ON FOUNTAIN PENS: Don't let anyone else use your pens -- this goes for ਀搀椀瀀 瀀攀渀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀  䄀 渀椀戀 戀攀挀漀洀攀猀 ∀愀挀挀甀猀琀漀洀攀搀∀ 琀漀 礀漀甀爀 栀愀渀搀 愀渀搀 眀攀愀爀猀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀ഊyou write. It's like Archie Bunker's chair; if you let someone else use it, ਀椀琀✀氀氀 挀栀愀渀最攀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 椀琀 眀漀爀欀猀⸀ഊ ਀㈀⸀  倀愀椀渀琀ഊ ਀䄀 挀栀攀愀瀀漀 猀攀琀 氀椀欀攀 倀攀渀琀攀氀 椀猀 最漀漀搀 昀漀爀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀⸀  一漀琀 昀漀爀 猀挀爀漀氀氀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 昀漀爀ഊpractice. ਀  ഊ3. Other motley junk ਀  ഊAn art box or a tackle box is great for a portable kit. Some things I keep ਀椀渀 洀礀 欀椀琀㨀  愀 猀栀愀爀瀀 欀渀椀昀攀Ⰰ 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 挀甀瀀 昀漀爀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ ㌀砀㔀 挀愀爀搀猀 ⠀最漀漀搀ഊdisposable paint palettes), a small ruler, a compass (the holes are period), ਀愀渀搀 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 瀀攀渀挀椀氀猀 愀渀搀 攀爀愀猀攀爀猀⸀  䐀漀渀✀琀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 爀攀搀 攀爀愀猀攀爀猀ഊon the ends of the pencils -- they're usually too hard and can stain the ਀瀀愀瀀攀爀⸀  䜀攀琀 愀 欀渀攀愀搀攀搀 攀爀愀猀攀爀 漀爀 琀栀攀 眀栀椀琀攀 匀琀愀攀搀氀攀爀ⴀ䴀愀爀猀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 攀爀愀猀攀爀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀ഊdon't leave as many eraser droppings. And use plain ol' #2 pencils: some ਀猀漀昀琀攀爀 漀爀 栀愀爀搀攀爀 愀爀琀 瀀攀渀挀椀氀猀 挀愀渀 戀攀 琀漀甀最栀 琀漀 攀爀愀猀攀⸀  䤀 甀猀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 昀椀渀攀ഊmechanical pencil, myself. I hate blunt pencils. Another thing that is ਀椀渀搀攀猀瀀攀渀猀椀戀氀攀 椀猀 愀 吀ⴀ猀焀甀愀爀攀Ⰰ 瀀爀攀昀攀爀愀戀氀礀 琀眀漀㨀  漀渀攀 昀漀爀 搀爀愀眀椀渀最Ⰰ 漀渀攀 昀漀爀 椀渀欀椀渀最⸀ഊI like the clear plastic ones for drawing, but if I am doing inking, a cork- ਀戀愀挀欀攀搀 洀攀琀愀氀 吀ⴀ猀焀甀愀爀攀 欀攀攀瀀猀 琀栀攀 椀渀欀 昀爀漀洀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 爀甀氀攀爀 愀渀搀 猀洀攀愀爀椀渀最ഊyour work. ਀  ഊI also heartily agree that the single best way to become acquainted with the ਀眀漀爀氀搀 漀昀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀攀搀 洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀猀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀ഊaccess to a major university library, you'll probably have lots and lots ਀漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀⸀  䰀漀漀欀 愀琀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 昀爀漀洀 愀 瘀愀爀椀攀琀礀 漀昀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 琀椀洀攀猀 愀渀搀 氀愀渀搀猀ഊand find one that suits your style. If you like your work to be free and ਀甀渀爀攀猀琀爀愀椀渀攀搀Ⰰ 搀漀渀✀琀 瀀椀挀欀 䌀攀氀琀椀挀⸀  䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀 搀爀愀昀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 䌀攀氀琀椀挀ഊmight be just the ticket (although it takes FOREVER). Some libraries might ਀攀瘀攀渀 栀愀瘀攀 爀攀愀氀 洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀猀 椀渀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 ⴀⴀ 愀 最漀氀搀攀渀 漀瀀瀀漀爀琀甀渀椀琀礀ഊthat should NOT be passed up! ਀  ഊ ...Cait ਀  ഊCaitrin Gordon/Glaedenfeld/Meridies ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀樀挀 愀琀 挀猀⸀挀洀甀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䴀漀渀椀挀愀 䌀攀氀氀椀漀⤀ഊDate: 25 Mar 91 20:34:02 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 匀挀栀漀漀氀 漀昀 䌀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 匀挀椀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 䌀愀爀渀攀最椀攀 䴀攀氀氀漀渀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 猀挀爀漀氀氀猀Ⰰ 䤀 眀漀爀欀 漀渀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 栀攀愀瘀礀 眀攀椀最栀琀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 昀爀漀洀 挀漀洀瀀愀渀椀攀猀 䤀✀瘀攀ഊheard of. More specifically, I have recently used Arches (140 lb), ਀眀栀椀挀栀 挀漀洀攀猀 椀渀 ㈀㈀ 砀 ㌀　 椀渀挀栀 猀栀攀攀琀猀 昀漀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 ␀㐀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 戀爀椀猀琀漀氀 戀漀愀爀搀ഊ(100 (110?) lb) by Strathmore, which comes in tablets. (A 20-sheet ਀琀愀戀氀攀琀 漀昀 ㄀㄀ 砀 ㄀㐀 椀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 ␀㘀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 挀氀攀愀爀氀礀 琀栀攀 洀漀爀攀 攀挀漀渀漀洀椀挀愀氀ഊpath for new scribes to follow.) I wouldn't recommend anything lighter ਀琀栀愀渀 愀戀漀甀琀 㤀　氀戀猀㬀 椀琀✀氀氀 戀攀 琀漀漀 昀氀椀洀猀礀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀爀 瀀愀椀渀琀猀 洀愀礀 眀攀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 ഊpaper curl. ਀ഊ(The weight is a standard measure in the printing industry for what a ਀挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 愀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 眀攀椀最栀猀⸀  䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀愀琀 愀洀漀甀渀琀ഊis (a ream of 11x17 sheets would be about right, I think, but I don't know ਀椀昀 琀栀愀琀✀猀 椀琀⤀⸀  堀攀爀漀砀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 椀猀 ㈀　氀戀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䤀昀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀渀✀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 漀爀 礀漀甀 樀甀猀琀 眀愀渀琀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 椀搀攀愀 漀昀 眀栀愀琀✀猀ഊout there, try to find an art store with friendly clerks and ask for help. ਀䐀漀渀✀琀 氀攀琀 琀栀攀洀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 ∀眀愀琀攀爀挀漀氀漀爀 瀀愀瀀攀爀∀ 漀爀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀✀猀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 愀 ഊcanvas; you want paper. They probably have a wallfull of drawers of loose ਀猀栀攀攀琀猀 漀昀 瀀愀瀀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 瀀漀欀攀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀愀琀 昀漀爀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀琀 愀渀搀 挀漀氀搀 瀀爀攀猀猀 爀攀昀攀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 琀攀砀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 愀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀⸀  䠀漀琀 瀀爀攀猀猀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 椀猀ഊsmooth, while cold press is somewhat rough. (You can remember this by ਀琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 愀瀀瀀氀礀椀渀最 愀渀 椀爀漀渀 琀漀 愀 猀栀攀攀琀 漀昀 爀漀甀最栀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 眀漀甀氀搀 搀漀 琀漀ഊit, other than burn it.) Which you work on is stictly a matter of personal ਀瀀爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀㬀 愀猀欀 愀 最爀漀甀瀀 漀昀 猀挀爀椀戀攀猀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀✀氀氀 最攀琀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 愀猀 洀愀渀礀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀猀 ഊabout which is better as you have scribes. :-) (Me? Hot press; the ink ਀猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 搀漀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 樀漀戀 漀昀 猀琀愀礀椀渀最 眀栀攀爀攀 䤀 瀀甀琀 椀琀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 栀攀愀搀椀渀最 昀漀爀 ഊthe nearest "gully". Also, technical pens seem to prefer smoother surfaces.) ਀ഊEllisif Flakkingskvinne ਀ഊ ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 瀀椀最洀攀渀琀猀开ഊDate: 4 Feb 92 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 挀愀琀 愀琀 瀀椀最最礀⸀昀最猀⸀猀氀戀⸀䌀伀䴀 ⠀∀䌀愀琀栀攀爀椀渀攀 䴀⸀ 䠀攀氀洀∀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 吀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀ഊ ਀䄀渀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀 愀氀氀 欀椀渀搀猀 漀昀 最漀漀搀 猀琀甀昀昀 ⠀爀愀眀 最甀洀 愀爀愀戀椀挀Ⰰഊraw gum ammoniac, pigments, vellum, inks, etc) is: ਀ഊPendragon ਀倀⸀伀⸀ 䈀漀砀 ㌀㈀㜀Ⰰ 䄀昀琀漀渀Ⰰ 䴀一 㔀㔀　　㄀ഊ(612)-436-2046 ਀ഊ(This poster has no affliation with the above business) ਀ഊPendragon, incidentally, is the only source I know of for gum ammoniac, ਀猀椀渀挀攀 洀礀 䈀愀礀 愀爀攀愀 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀爀 眀攀渀琀 漀甀琀 漀昀 戀甀猀椀渀攀猀猀⸀ഊ ਀吀眀挀猀ഊ ਀ഊSubject: Re: pigments ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 㔀 䘀攀戀 㤀㈀ ഊFrom: aiden at NCoast.ORG (Steven Otlowski) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊOrganization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH ਀ഊThis is a list of suppliers of period pigmenst - have fun. ਀ ഊ Auldhaefen Associates - * non-profit source of pigments ਀     㜀㐀㄀ 䴀漀渀琀愀渀愀 䄀瘀攀⸀              ⨀ 愀渀搀 洀愀渀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 渀攀愀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀ഊ Akron OH 44314-3036 ਀    ⬀㄀ ㈀㄀㘀 㜀㐀㔀 㤀㌀㠀　  瘀漀椀挀攀ഊ +1 216 753 8791 bbs 10AM to 10PM ਀ ഊ Pendragon 612/436-2046 * callig. & Illum. Supplies ਀     倀伀  䈀漀砀 ㌀㈀㜀      昀愀砀㨀 㘀㄀㈀⼀㐀㌀㘀ⴀ㈀　㐀㠀       ⨀  挀愀爀爀椀攀猀 䜀甀洀 匀愀渀搀愀爀愀挀ഊ Afton MN 55001 ਀ ഊ Master John the Artificer 412/362-0421 * period pigments ਀     䨀漀栀渀 刀⸀ 刀漀猀攀ഊ 250 Emerson Street ਀     倀椀琀琀猀戀甀爀最栀  倀䄀  ㄀㔀㈀　㘀ഊ ਀     䜀甀椀氀搀 漀昀 䰀椀洀渀攀爀猀    㘀　㌀⼀㘀㔀㐀ⴀ㈀㤀㐀㤀   瀀攀爀椀漀搀 瀀椀最洀攀渀琀猀ഊ Baroness Megan ਀       䰀椀渀搀愀 䄀渀昀甀猀漀ഊ RD 1 Box 134-B Forest Road ਀       圀椀氀琀漀渀  一䠀 　㌀　㠀㘀ഊ ਀䄀椀搀攀渀 䔀氀昀攀愀搀甀爀 ⴀ ഊ-- ਀匀琀攀瘀攀 伀琀氀漀眀猀欀椀ഊaiden at ncoast.org ਀ ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 樀漀栀渀猀琀漀渀 愀琀 洀愀礀漀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀匀攀愀渀 䰀⸀ 䨀漀栀渀猀琀漀渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䄀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 猀挀爀漀氀氀猀ഊDate: 14 Jul 1993 16:01:25 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䴀愀礀漀 䘀漀甀渀搀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀     刀攀最愀爀搀椀渀最 瀀愀瀀攀爀 挀漀洀洀漀渀氀礀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 猀挀爀漀氀氀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 挀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀氀礀ഊavailable is 100% rag, acid free, flat (as opposed to plate) paper (in my ਀攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀琀攀 昀椀渀椀猀栀 搀漀攀猀 渀漀琀 愀戀猀漀爀戀 琀栀攀 椀渀欀 愀猀 焀甀椀挀欀氀礀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀攀ഊstrokes are not as crisp). I prefer Bristol as a company, but am currently ਀甀猀椀渀最 䌀愀渀猀漀渀 搀甀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 瀀愀甀挀椀琀礀 漀昀 最漀漀搀 愀爀琀 猀甀瀀瀀氀礀 猀琀漀爀攀猀 椀渀 刀漀挀栀攀猀琀攀爀Ⰰ 䴀一⸀ഊ I have experimented with many different kinds of paper available through ਀猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 琀礀瀀攀猀 漀昀 猀琀漀爀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀愀渀琀 挀栀愀爀愀挀琀攀爀椀猀琀椀挀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀ഊfind in a paper is that it absorbs ink quickly without bleeding into ਀渀攀椀最栀戀漀爀椀渀最 昀椀戀攀爀猀⸀  䴀礀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 漀戀琀愀椀渀椀渀最 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 猀愀洀瀀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀愀瀀攀爀ഊyou are interested in experimenting with and seeing how well it holds ink. ਀     䄀挀椀搀 昀爀攀攀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 椀猀 挀漀洀洀漀渀氀礀 甀猀攀搀 愀渀搀 瀀爀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀搀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀 椀渀欀 眀椀氀氀ഊ"never" fade, as opposed to acid containing paper, where the ink might ਀戀爀漀眀渀 椀渀 昀椀昀琀礀 漀爀 猀漀 礀攀愀爀猀⸀  吀栀攀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 琀攀渀搀猀 愀氀猀漀 琀漀 搀攀琀攀爀椀漀爀愀琀攀⸀  ഊ Sorry I can't comment on the actual making of the paper, for I haven't ਀搀攀氀瘀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀愀琀 猀挀椀攀渀挀攀 愀猀 漀昀 礀攀琀⸀ഊ By the way, can anyone suggest a good brand of partially see-through ਀瘀攀氀氀甀洀㼀  䴀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀⼀椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 椀渀 洀礀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀ഊbooks have a faint image of the text on the following page leaking through ਀漀渀 琀栀攀 瀀栀漀琀漀最爀愀瀀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀✀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀愀琀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 瀀愀瀀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䈀愀氀椀渀 漀昀 䌀愀渀琀攀爀戀甀爀礀Ⰰ 圀攀猀琀攀爀渀 一漀爀琀栀猀栀椀攀氀搀 䴀椀渀椀猀琀攀爀 漀昀 䄀爀琀猀ⰀഊPrincipality of the Northshield, Middle Kingdom ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 挀愀瘀 愀琀 戀渀爀⸀挀愀 ⠀刀椀挀欀 䌀愀瘀愀猀椀渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䘀椀渀搀椀渀最 愀 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀爀 昀漀爀 愀洀洀漀渀椀愀 最甀洀 ⴀ 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 椀渀欀ഊDate: 22 Aug 1996 17:00:17 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䈀攀氀氀ⴀ一漀爀琀栀攀爀渀 刀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 䰀琀搀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 最愀戀爀椀攀氀 最甀椀氀搀 猀攀氀氀猀 最甀洀 愀洀洀漀渀椀愀挀Ⰰ 愀氀漀渀最 眀椀琀栀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀 昀漀爀ഊpeople doing period calligraphy and illumination: ਀ഊThe Gabriel Guild ਀㘀 一漀爀琀栀 倀攀愀爀氀 匀琀⸀ഊSuite 404E ਀倀漀爀琀 䌀栀攀猀琀攀爀Ⰰ 一夀ഊ10573 ਀ഊ ਀倀攀渀搀爀愀最漀渀✀猀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀 愀搀搀爀攀猀猀 椀猀㨀ഊ ਀倀攀渀搀爀愀最漀渀ഊP.O. Box 1995 ਀䄀爀氀椀渀最琀漀渀 䠀琀猀Ⰰ 䤀䰀ഊ60006 ਀ഊ1-800-775-7367 ਀㜀　㠀ⴀ㠀㜀　ⴀ㤀㤀㠀㠀ഊ ਀䌀栀攀攀爀猀Ⰰ 刀椀挀欀⼀䈀愀氀搀攀爀椀欀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:54:10 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀愀爀最漀 䰀礀渀渀 䠀愀戀氀甀琀稀攀氀 㰀䠀愀戀氀甀琀稀攀氀 愀琀 挀漀洀瀀甀猀攀爀瘀攀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: A&S List ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀 瀀椀最洀攀渀琀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀爀漀洀 䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 䄀椀搀愀渀Ⰰ 䌀☀䤀 䰀愀甀爀攀氀 昀爀漀洀 䌀愀氀漀渀琀椀爀ഊnow living in Al-Barran in the Outlands: ਀ഊ--------------- Forwarded Message --------------- ਀ഊI just got a great catalog in the mail--chock full of "real" pigments, ਀椀渀 焀甀愀渀琀椀琀椀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 ㄀　　最 琀漀 ㄀ 欀椀氀漀 漀昀 最爀漀甀渀搀 瀀椀最洀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 愀琀 椀洀瀀爀攀猀猀椀瘀攀ഊprices. It is the Sinopia Pigments and Materials catalog, Fall 97. They ਀愀氀猀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 眀攀戀猀椀琀攀 ⠀搀甀栀⤀ 愀琀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀猀椀渀漀瀀椀愀⸀挀漀洀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 漀甀琀昀椀琀 愀瀀瀀愀爀攀渀琀氀礀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀椀稀攀猀 椀渀 猀愀氀攀猀 琀漀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 搀漀 愀爀琀ഊrestoration (!) and frescoes, thus the large quantity. They also sell ਀戀爀甀猀栀攀猀 愀渀搀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䨀甀猀琀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 䤀✀搀 瀀愀猀猀 琀栀椀猀 漀渀 琀漀 愀渀礀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀漀爀 琀礀瀀攀猀⸀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䴀猀⸀ 䄀椀搀愀渀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "austrechild at sympatico.ca" ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Cheap Callig Pens ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㌀　 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㄀㌀㨀㌀㌀㨀㄀㘀 ⴀ　㠀　　ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最ⴀ愀戀漀甀琀ⴀ洀愀礀戀攀ⴀ琀爀礀椀渀最ⴀ挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀 昀漀氀欀猀Ⰰ 娀攀氀氀攀爀猀 ⠀䌀愀渀愀搀愀⤀ 栀愀猀 愀 ഊ*$10 calligraphy set* of three nibs, cartridge pen and ਀椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀愀氀 瀀愀洀瀀栀氀攀琀⸀  䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 愀琀琀攀猀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 焀甀愀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 椀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 昀漀爀 ഊthose without an art store handy, it's certainly a cheap way to find out ਀栀漀眀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀⸀  ⠀圀愀氀ⴀ䴀愀爀琀 唀匀䄀 椀猀 猀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀氀礀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最 愀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 ഊdeal, but don't quote me!) ਀ഊScribamus, ਀䄀甀猀琀爀攀挀栀椀氀搀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:16:51 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䐀攀渀渀椀猀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀 䐀漀爀礀 䜀爀愀挀攀 㰀愀洀愀稀椀渀最 愀琀 洀愀椀氀⸀甀琀攀砀愀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 戀攀最椀渀椀渀最 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀㸀䌀漀甀氀搀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 搀椀爀攀挀琀 洀攀 琀漀 戀攀最椀渀椀渀最 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀 昀漀爀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀㼀ഊ>And easier MMS to emulate. ਀ഊ>Philippa ਀ഊHi Philippa, Aquilanne in Ansteorra here. ਀ഊIf you were in Austin, TX, I could tell you which stores to go to to buy ਀眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀⸀ 一漀琀 欀渀漀眀椀渀最 眀栀攀爀攀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀Ⰰ 栀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀✀氀氀 樀甀猀琀 愀猀猀甀洀攀 琀栀愀琀ഊyou know where your nearest art supply store or craft shop is (if not, look ਀椀渀 琀栀攀 礀攀氀氀漀眀 瀀愀最攀猀⤀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 樀甀猀琀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀Ⰰ 愀氀氀 礀漀甀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 渀攀攀搀ഊare some good gouaches, pencil, kneadable eraser, a good paper, a ruler, ਀椀渀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 爀甀氀椀渀最 瀀攀渀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀 ⠀䤀 甀猀攀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 愀 爀愀瀀椀搀漀最爀愀瀀栀 漀爀 愀 挀爀漀眀焀甀椀氀氀⤀⸀ഊ ਀圀椀渀搀猀漀爀 一攀眀琀漀渀 最漀甀愀挀栀攀 椀猀 洀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 栀椀最栀ഊcolorfastness overall, are consistent in quality, and are nice to work ਀眀椀琀栀⸀ 䜀攀琀 猀漀洀攀 琀甀戀攀猀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 戀愀猀椀挀 挀漀氀漀爀猀 愀渀搀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 瀀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 瀀愀氀攀琀琀攀ഊwith a lid to put them in. ਀ഊI like using mechanical pencils as opposed to regular ones since I don't ਀栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 猀栀愀爀瀀攀渀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 夀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 愀猀 昀椀渀攀 愀 氀攀愀搀 愀猀 愀 ⸀㌀ 洀洀⸀ഊKoh-i-Noor makes a nice one called a Rapidomatic. ਀ഊLet me sing the praises of the kneadable eraser. It's the most versatile ਀攀爀愀猀攀爀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 戀甀礀⸀ 夀漀甀 挀愀渀 瀀甀氀氀 愀渀搀 欀渀攀愀搀 椀琀 ⠀栀攀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 渀愀洀攀⤀ 琀漀 挀氀攀愀渀 椀琀ഊand shape it. It doesn't crumble like the vast majority of other erasers on ਀琀栀攀 洀愀爀欀攀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀✀猀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 欀椀渀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 眀栀椀氀攀ഊstill erasing very effectively. They're also good for pulling on and ਀瀀甀洀洀攀氀椀渀最 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀爀琀椀猀琀✀猀 戀氀漀挀欀 漀爀 礀漀甀爀 挀愀琀 猀琀攀瀀猀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 椀渀欀⸀ഊ ਀䜀漀漀搀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 洀攀愀渀猀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 渀椀挀攀 焀甀愀氀椀琀礀Ⰰ 猀洀漀漀琀栀Ⰰ 瀀愀瀀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 愀 搀攀挀攀渀琀ഊarchival quality. My favorite is Arches 90# HotPress Watercolor paper. It's ਀愀 猀漀昀琀Ⰰ 眀愀爀洀 眀栀椀琀攀 愀渀搀 栀愀猀 愀 渀椀挀攀Ⰰ 猀洀漀漀琀栀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀㬀 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 猀漀 猀洀漀漀琀栀 琀栀愀琀ഊevery correction will glare out. It's also heavy enough to handle x-acto ਀欀渀椀昀攀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 ⠀琀栀愀琀✀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 礀漀甀 最攀渀琀氀礀 猀挀爀愀瀀攀 愀 洀椀猀琀愀欀攀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀ഊof the paper using a very sharp blade and lots and lots of patience). ਀ഊAfter penciling in my design, I like to ink it in and erase pencil marks. I ਀甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 甀猀攀 愀 瀀氀愀椀渀 戀氀愀挀欀 椀渀欀 ⠀䤀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 椀琀 ∀瀀漀瀀猀∀ 琀栀攀 挀漀氀漀爀⤀ 昀爀漀洀ഊeither a rapidograph pen or something similar, or I'll use an ink in a ਀挀爀漀眀焀甀椀氀氀 ⠀昀椀渀攀 搀椀瀀⤀ 瀀攀渀 漀爀 愀 洀愀瀀瀀椀渀最 渀椀戀⸀ 䄀 眀愀爀洀 漀爀 氀椀最栀琀 戀爀漀眀渀 椀渀欀 眀愀猀ഊalso used in period for outlining designs, and is very nice to use, too. ਀䴀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 椀渀欀猀 礀漀甀 甀猀攀 昀漀爀 漀甀琀氀椀渀椀渀最 愀爀攀 ⨀眀愀琀攀爀瀀爀漀漀昀⨀⸀ 䤀昀 琀栀攀礀✀爀攀ഊnot, they'll bleed into your paint as you paint your designs. ਀ഊAs to "easy" manuscripts to copy, my suggestion is to look at as many ਀攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀猀 漀昀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 昀爀漀洀 攀瘀攀爀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀椀挀欀 眀栀愀琀 ⨀礀漀甀⨀ 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀氀礀ഊfind the most visually appealing. Ease and simplicity are subjective. ਀刀攀最愀爀搀氀攀猀猀 漀昀 瀀攀爀挀攀椀瘀攀搀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀砀椀琀礀Ⰰ 礀漀甀✀氀氀 戀攀 栀愀瀀瀀椀攀爀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 漀渀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最ഊyou like the look of. If you find you like Dutch manuscript painting, you ਀搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 爀攀挀爀攀愀琀攀 愀渀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 瀀愀最攀 漀昀 椀琀 爀椀最栀琀 漀昀昀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 爀攀挀爀攀愀琀攀ഊelements until you get the hand of the forms you're dealing with. Try to ਀昀椀渀搀 愀 猀挀爀椀戀攀 氀漀挀愀氀 琀漀 礀漀甀 琀漀 挀漀愀挀栀 礀漀甀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 礀漀甀爀 昀椀爀猀琀 愀琀琀攀洀瀀琀 漀爀 琀眀漀⸀ഊ ਀䰀攀琀 洀攀 猀甀最最攀猀琀 洀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 戀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 爀攀昀攀爀爀椀渀最 渀攀眀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀攀爀猀 愀渀搀ഊilluminators to. It's "Illumination for Calligraphers; the complete guide ਀昀漀爀 琀栀攀 愀洀戀椀琀椀漀渀猀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀攀爀∀ 戀礀 䴀愀爀椀攀 䰀礀渀猀欀攀礀㬀 䠀愀爀瀀攀爀 䌀漀氀氀椀渀猀 倀甀戀⸀㬀 䤀匀䈀一ഊ0-7225-2105-7. This is *the* best overall book I've ever seen for ਀愀搀搀爀攀猀猀椀渀最 戀漀琀栀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀 戀愀猀椀挀猀 ⠀猀栀攀 猀栀漀眀猀 㔀 漀爀 㘀 戀愀猀椀挀 栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀 栀愀渀搀猀⤀ഊand illumination basics based on historical manuscript illuminations. I ਀猀琀椀氀氀 爀攀昀攀爀 琀漀 椀琀 漀挀挀愀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀 愀昀琀攀爀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀猀攀 礀攀愀爀猀⸀ 倀愀爀琀 漀昀 栀攀爀ഊbackground says: "Marie Lynskey studied heraldry, calligraphy, and ਀椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 愀琀 琀栀攀 刀攀椀最愀琀攀 匀挀栀漀漀氀 漀昀 䄀爀琀 愀渀搀 䐀攀猀椀最渀⸀⸀⸀∀ 猀漀 眀栀攀爀攀 洀漀猀琀ഊbooks on this sort of thing are primarily contemporary design based, she's ਀挀漀洀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 猀琀礀氀椀猀琀椀挀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 眀攀✀爀攀 愀昀琀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀ഊ**very** reader-freindly--lots of very useful information in a very ਀爀攀愀搀愀戀氀攀 昀漀爀洀愀琀⸀ 䔀渀漀甀最栀 瀀氀甀最最椀渀最⸀ 䜀攀琀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 最漀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀䜀漀漀搀 氀甀挀欀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀爀 渀攀眀 愀瘀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䤀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 昀甀渀⸀ 䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 䤀ഊgot this nifty link the other day: ਀ഊ>http://www.erols.com/versals/ ਀ഊThis woman makes her own paints according to medieval methods and does ਀椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ 䌀栀攀挀欀 椀琀 漀甀琀㬀 猀栀攀 搀漀攀猀 猀漀洀攀 瘀攀爀礀 渀椀挀攀 眀漀爀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 猀攀攀ഊwhere some pieces she has displayed are recreations of just elements of ਀氀愀爀最攀爀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀戀攀 眀攀氀氀ഊAquilanne ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㈀㨀㈀㐀㨀㄀㜀 ⴀ　㘀　　ഊFrom: Jen Rosen ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: begining illumination ਀ഊAt 11:16 AM 12/18/97 -0600, Dennis and/or Dory Grace wrote: ਀㸀㸀䌀漀甀氀搀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 搀椀爀攀挀琀 洀攀 琀漀 戀攀最椀渀椀渀最 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀 昀漀爀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀㼀ഊ>>And easier MMS to emulate. ਀ഊ>>Philippa ਀ഊ>Hi Philippa, Aquilanne in Ansteorra here. ਀ഊAquilanne, you offer some excellent advice. ਀䤀✀氀氀 愀搀搀 洀礀 漀眀渀 ㈀ 挀攀渀琀猀 椀渀 栀攀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀㸀最漀漀搀 最漀甀愀挀栀攀猀ഊ>pencil ਀㸀欀渀攀愀搀愀戀氀攀 攀爀愀猀攀爀ഊ>a good paper ਀㸀愀 爀甀氀攀爀Ⰰഊ>ink ਀㸀愀渀搀 爀甀氀椀渀最 瀀攀渀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀 ⠀䤀 甀猀攀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 愀 爀愀瀀椀搀漀最爀愀瀀栀 漀爀 愀 挀爀漀眀焀甀椀氀氀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䤀✀搀 愀氀猀漀 愀搀搀 愀 戀甀渀挀栀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 瀀愀椀渀琀 琀爀愀礀猀 ⠀㘀 眀攀氀氀猀 瀀攀爀 琀爀愀礀⤀ഊto mix colors in. Gouache can be reconstituted when it's dry, so if you ਀洀愀欀攀 愀 挀漀氀漀爀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 爀攀甀猀攀 椀琀⸀  䤀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀猀攀 琀爀愀礀猀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀ഊthey're small, and they give me lots of room to mix. ਀ഊAnother valuable tool to add to the list is an eraser brush. You can find ਀琀栀攀猀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀爀愀昀琀椀渀最 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 愀 氀愀爀最攀Ⰰ 猀漀昀琀 戀爀甀猀栀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 戀爀甀挀栀 琀栀攀ഊeraser crumbs off your drawing. THis is a good habit to get into early! ਀唀猀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 栀愀渀搀 琀漀 戀爀甀猀栀 挀爀甀洀戀猀 愀眀愀礀 挀愀渀 漀渀氀礀 氀攀愀搀 琀漀 猀洀攀愀爀猀 愀渀搀 搀椀猀愀猀琀攀爀Ⰰഊand I have had a crisis from blowing them away (don't spit on the gouache, ਀䨀攀渀℀⤀ഊ ਀䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀 攀砀愀挀琀漀 欀渀椀昀攀 昀漀爀 猀挀爀愀瀀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 琀栀椀渀最 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀搀搀攀搀 椀猀 愀 琀栀椀渀 挀漀琀琀漀渀 最氀漀瘀攀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀ഊavailable as photograper supplies. Cut the tips of the fingers off. I ਀眀攀愀爀 琀栀椀猀 漀渀 洀礀 挀愀氀氀椀最 栀愀渀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 渀攀瘀攀爀 甀猀攀搀 愀 戀氀漀挀欀椀渀最 猀栀攀攀琀ഊsince. It keeps sweat and oil off of your paper, making your work easier ਀愀渀搀 欀攀攀瀀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀 愀爀攀愀 挀氀攀愀渀⸀  䄀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 最爀攀愀琀 栀愀戀椀琀 琀漀ഊget into early. ਀ഊ>I like using mechanical pencils as opposed to regular ones since I don't ਀㸀栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 猀栀愀爀瀀攀渀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 夀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 愀猀 昀椀渀攀 愀 氀攀愀搀 愀猀 愀 ⸀㌀ 洀洀⸀ഊ>Koh-i-Noor makes a nice one called a Rapidomatic. ਀ഊI'd further add that you'd like to have 2 softnesses available -- one hard ਀⠀㈀栀 椀猀 渀椀挀攀⤀ 愀渀搀 漀渀攀 猀漀昀琀 ⠀戀 漀爀 ㈀戀⤀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 最漀漀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀攀琀礀Ⰰഊespecially if you're doing complicated layout. ਀ഊ>Good paper means some sort of nice quality, smooth, paper with a decent ਀㸀愀爀挀栀椀瘀愀氀 焀甀愀氀椀琀礀⸀ 䴀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 椀猀 䄀爀挀栀攀猀 㤀　⌀ 䠀漀琀倀爀攀猀猀 圀愀琀攀爀挀漀氀漀爀 瀀愀瀀攀爀⸀ 䤀琀✀猀ഊ>a soft, warm white and has a nice, smooth surface; but not so smooth that ਀㸀攀瘀攀爀礀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀 眀椀氀氀 最氀愀爀攀 漀甀琀⸀ 䤀琀✀猀 愀氀猀漀 栀攀愀瘀礀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 栀愀渀搀氀攀 砀ⴀ愀挀琀漀ഊ>knife corrections (that's where you gently scrape a mistake off the surface ਀㸀漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 甀猀椀渀最 愀 瘀攀爀礀 猀栀愀爀瀀 戀氀愀搀攀 愀渀搀 氀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 瀀愀琀椀攀渀挀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䈀爀椀猀琀漀氀 戀漀愀爀搀 ⠀猀洀漀漀琀栀⤀ 椀猀 最爀攀愀琀 琀漀漀⸀   圀栀愀琀 攀瘀攀爀 礀漀甀 搀漀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 搀漀 渀漀琀 甀猀攀ഊbumpy type watercolor paper (cold press)! This will make you the enemy of ਀挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀攀爀猀 眀栀漀 眀漀爀欀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀爀 戀氀愀渀欀猀℀  䴀愀渀礀 欀椀渀搀猀 漀昀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 愀爀攀 漀欀愀礀 昀漀爀ഊillumination, but calligraphy goes best on smooth paper with a bit of ਀琀漀漀琀栀Ⰰ 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀猀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 愀戀漀瘀攀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䄀猀 琀漀 ∀攀愀猀礀∀ 洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀猀 琀漀 挀漀瀀礀Ⰰ 洀礀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀 愀猀 洀愀渀礀ഊ>examples of illumination from every period, and pick what *you* personally ਀㸀昀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 瘀椀猀甀愀氀氀礀 愀瀀瀀攀愀氀椀渀最⸀ 䔀愀猀攀 愀渀搀 猀椀洀瀀氀椀挀椀琀礀 愀爀攀 猀甀戀樀攀挀琀椀瘀攀⸀ഊ>Regardless of perceived complexity, you'll be happier working on something ਀㸀礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 氀漀漀欀 漀昀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 昀椀渀搀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀 䐀甀琀挀栀 洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀 瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 礀漀甀ഊ>don't have to recreate an entire page of it right off, you can recreate ਀㸀攀氀攀洀攀渀琀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 栀愀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀猀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 搀攀愀氀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀⸀ 吀爀礀 琀漀ഊ>find a scribe local to you to coach you through your first attempt or two. ਀ഊI'd also like to recommend _copying_. To learn the visual language of an ਀椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 猀琀礀氀攀Ⰰ 挀漀瀀礀 愀 洀猀 瀀愀最攀 愀猀 礀漀甀爀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀  吀栀椀猀 洀愀礀 渀漀琀 洀攀愀渀ഊtracing, but sometimes tracing elements can be helpful too, to get the full ਀昀氀愀瘀漀爀 漀昀 愀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀  䄀猀 礀漀甀 戀攀挀漀洀攀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀洀昀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 猀琀礀氀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀ഊbe able to create your own designs in the flavor of that style. ਀ഊGood luck, and have fun! ਀开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开ഊLady Gianetta Andreini da Vicenza Jen Rosen jrosen at zwell.com ਀倀攀爀 昀攀猀猀 最甀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 愀稀甀爀攀 昀爀攀琀琀礀Ⰰ 椀渀 挀栀椀攀昀 椀渀 昀攀猀猀 琀栀爀攀攀 瀀漀瀀椀渀樀愀礀猀 伀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:27:22 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䠀攀氀攀渀 匀挀栀甀氀琀稀∀ 㰀洀攀椀猀琀攀爀渀 愀琀 椀焀甀攀猀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊTo: ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 戀攀最椀渀椀渀最 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀䜀爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀 倀栀椀氀椀瀀瀀愀Ⰰഊ ਀圀栀愀琀 戀漀琀栀 䄀焀甀椀氀愀渀渀攀 椀渀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀渀搀 䜀椀愀渀攀琀琀愀 䄀渀搀爀攀椀渀椀 搀愀 嘀椀渀挀攀渀稀愀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊMiddle said is true. Good advice all around. May I add a thing or two, ਀瀀氀攀愀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀䄀猀 愀 䰀愀甀爀攀氀 椀渀 挀愀氀氀椀最爀愀瀀栀礀 愀渀搀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 ⠀䌀☀䤀⤀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 洀礀 漀眀渀ഊpreferences. Let me say right now __each person works with whatever tools ਀眀漀爀欀 戀攀猀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀洀开开Ⰰ 戀甀琀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 琀栀攀礀 搀漀渀✀琀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 欀渀漀眀 愀戀漀甀琀 猀漀洀攀ഊothers that make life a little easier for the person doing C&I (or even ਀樀甀猀琀 漀渀攀 漀爀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 昀椀渀搀 甀猀椀渀最 愀 洀攀挀栀愀渀椀挀愀氀 瀀攀渀挀椀氀 眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 挀愀渀 猀栀愀爀瀀攀渀 洀甀挀栀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀ഊset .03 so called mechanical pencils by Pentel...they are ALWAYS blunt, and ਀猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 昀椀渀攀 氀椀渀攀 搀甀爀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 搀爀愀昀琀椀渀最 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀⸀  䄀氀猀漀Ⰰഊfor lining, I really like to use the Linex Liner rather than the Ames Liner ਀⠀琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 氀椀渀椀渀最 琀漀漀氀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 氀椀渀攀猀 漀昀 栀漀氀攀猀ഊset in a line and a wheel that allows you to change how far apart those ਀栀漀氀攀猀 氀椀渀攀 甀瀀⤀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 琀漀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀 栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀ഊto use. The Linex is nicer because it can use both inches and millimeters ਀⠀猀漀 洀甀挀栀 洀漀爀攀 搀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀⤀ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 氀漀渀最攀爀 猀攀琀 漀昀 栀漀氀攀猀 琀漀 甀猀攀 ⴀⴀഊnearly double the number on the Ames. ਀ഊColors of gouache I would recommend are: primary red, primary blue, ਀瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀 礀攀氀氀漀眀Ⰰ 椀瘀漀爀礀 戀氀愀挀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀攀爀洀愀渀攀渀琀 眀栀椀琀攀 昀漀爀 洀椀砀椀渀最 ⠀琀栀攀猀攀 挀漀氀漀爀猀ഊwill mix into almost any color of the spectrum you might desire). If you ਀愀爀攀 甀渀猀甀爀攀 漀昀 洀椀砀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀㨀  猀瀀攀挀琀爀甀洀 爀攀搀Ⰰ 挀漀戀愀氀琀 戀氀甀攀 瀀愀氀攀 栀甀攀Ⰰഊultramarine, mistletoe green, purple lake, cadmium red deep, cadmium green, ਀愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 挀漀氀漀爀猀 礀漀甀 昀椀渀搀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最⸀  吀栀漀猀攀 挀漀氀漀爀猀 愀爀攀 昀愀椀爀氀礀ഊclose to most of the ones used in period. ਀ഊTo view some manuscripts of various periods, go to this web page: ਀ഊhttp://www.georgetown.edu/labyrinth/subjects/mss/mss.htm ਀ഊIt has links to many more manuscript sites. Happy surfing and ਀䈀甀挀栀欀甀渀猀琀洀愀氀攀爀椀 ⠀䜀攀爀洀愀渀 昀漀爀 戀漀漀欀 愀爀琀 眀漀爀欀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䴀攀椀猀琀攀爀椀渀 䬀愀琀愀爀椀渀愀 䠀攀氀攀渀攀 瘀漀渀 匀挀栀漀攀渀戀漀爀渀ഊMiddle Kingdom ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㄀㨀㐀　㨀㔀　 䔀匀吀ഊFrom: LRSTCS ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Egg Tempera, etc. ਀ഊThanks folks for the info, ਀ഊThe gum amoniac sources and instructions were just what I needed! ਀ഊHere's the mail order sources with the better prices I mentioned: ਀ഊArt Supply Warehouse (ASW) 1-800-995-6778, 1-929-878-5077 web site - haven't ਀氀漀漀欀攀搀 愀琀 椀琀 礀攀琀ⴀ 眀眀眀⸀愀猀眀攀砀瀀爀攀猀猀⸀挀漀洀⸀  吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 最甀愀挀栀攀猀Ⰰ 瀀愀椀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀瀀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀猀 渀攀愀爀 礀漀甀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 瀀愀瀀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 戀爀甀猀栀攀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊthe other scribes mentioned on sale, and they usually have a 40-50% off coupon ਀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀甀渀搀愀礀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 昀漀爀 漀渀攀 椀琀攀洀⸀ 䈀甀礀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 戀爀甀猀栀攀猀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀ഊafford, they work better. ਀ഊTo the beginner Illuminator, the mail order sources offer starter sets with ਀礀漀甀爀 戀愀猀椀挀 挀漀氀漀爀猀 漀昀 㠀ⴀ㄀　 琀甀戀攀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 洀甀挀栀 挀栀攀愀瀀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 戀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀洀ഊseperate. Found that out the hard way. ਀ഊEgg Tempera in the tube: ਀ഊ[see the paint-msg file] ਀ഊMagge ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㄀㨀㌀㔀㨀㌀㌀ ⴀ　㠀　　ഊFrom: Brett and Karen Williams ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: begining illumination ਀ഊMeisterin Katarina (Helen Schultz) writes amongst other things: ਀㸀ഊ> Colors of gouache I would recommend are: primary red, primary blue, ਀㸀 瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀 礀攀氀氀漀眀Ⰰ 椀瘀漀爀礀 戀氀愀挀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀攀爀洀愀渀攀渀琀 眀栀椀琀攀 昀漀爀 洀椀砀椀渀最 ⠀琀栀攀猀攀 挀漀氀漀爀猀ഊ> will mix into almost any color of the spectrum you might desire). If you ਀㸀 愀爀攀 甀渀猀甀爀攀 漀昀 洀椀砀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀㨀  猀瀀攀挀琀爀甀洀 爀攀搀Ⰰ 挀漀戀愀氀琀 戀氀甀攀 瀀愀氀攀 栀甀攀Ⰰഊ> ultramarine, mistletoe green, purple lake, cadmium red deep, cadmium green, ਀㸀 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 挀漀氀漀爀猀 礀漀甀 昀椀渀搀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最⸀  吀栀漀猀攀 挀漀氀漀爀猀 愀爀攀 昀愀椀爀氀礀ഊ> close to most of the ones used in period. ਀ഊAs a professional artist's daughter, an artist who has made his living ਀戀礀 栀椀猀 戀爀甀猀栀 愀渀搀 ⠀洀漀猀琀氀礀⤀ 眀愀琀攀爀挀漀氀漀爀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 昀漀爀琀礀 礀攀愀爀猀Ⰰ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀ഊlike to add something to Mistress Katarina's good advice. ਀ഊWindsor and Newton gouache paints are of excellent quality. However, ਀琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 猀攀琀 漀昀 瀀栀礀猀椀挀愀氀⼀攀渀瘀椀爀漀渀洀攀渀琀愀氀 挀栀愀爀愀挀琀攀爀椀猀琀椀挀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀ഊactively working against any illuminator's work. I'm offering a ਀猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 栀漀眀 琀漀 樀甀搀最攀 氀椀最栀琀ⴀ昀愀猀琀 瀀愀椀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀爀 攀渀攀洀礀 椀猀 䰀椀最栀琀⸀ 䤀琀 挀漀洀攀猀 椀渀 琀眀漀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀猀Ⰰ 渀愀琀甀爀愀氀 ⠀猀甀渀⤀ 愀渀搀ഊfluorescent. ਀ഊI was in the Getty Museum-- the *new* one, on the Sunday afternoon ਀椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀 愀昀琀攀爀 吀栀愀渀欀猀最椀瘀椀渀最⸀ 䴀礀 昀椀瘀攀ⴀ礀攀愀爀ⴀ漀氀搀 攀猀挀漀爀琀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 愀氀氀漀眀 洀攀ഊmuch time to gawk at the manuscripts, however, I would like to point out ਀琀栀愀琀 攀愀挀栀 愀渀搀 攀瘀攀爀礀 瀀愀最攀 漀渀 搀椀猀瀀氀愀礀 眀愀猀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀氀礀 氀椀琀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀椀渀 愀 搀愀爀欀ഊroom. We're talking a pitch black room here. ਀ഊOn the back of the Windsor & Newton tube, both for gouache and ਀眀愀琀攀爀挀漀氀漀爀Ⰰ 椀猀 愀 氀攀琀琀攀爀 爀愀琀椀渀最⸀ 䔀砀愀洀椀渀攀 琀栀漀猀攀 氀攀琀琀攀爀猀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀氀礀⸀ഊAnything rated an A or better is going to be the most light-fast ਀瀀椀最洀攀渀琀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 氀漀瘀攀氀礀 瀀椀渀欀 爀愀琀攀搀 猀漀洀攀眀栀攀爀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 䘀 漀爀 䜀Ⰰ 椀昀 洀攀洀漀爀礀ഊserves. It is extremely light fugitive. ਀ഊTry to stick within the range of A, AA, AAA-- and if you can't get ਀愀爀漀甀渀搀 椀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 䈀 爀愀琀椀渀最猀⸀ 夀漀甀✀氀氀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀 猀瀀攀挀琀爀甀洀ഊis either A or B. It's the more obscure tints that have the fugitive ਀爀愀琀椀渀最猀ⴀⴀ 愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 䤀䤀刀䌀Ⰰ 洀漀猀琀 礀攀氀氀漀眀猀 愀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䈀 挀愀琀攀最漀爀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀漀猀攀 昀甀最椀琀椀瘀攀 挀漀氀漀爀猀 眀椀氀氀 昀愀搀攀 漀渀 攀砀瀀漀猀甀爀攀 琀漀 氀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 渀漀戀氀攀 挀漀甀猀椀渀猀⸀ 䤀昀ഊyou are willing to invest in quality pigments-- and especially invest ਀礀漀甀爀 瘀愀氀甀愀戀氀攀 琀椀洀攀 椀渀 愀 眀漀爀欀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 栀甀渀最 漀渀 愀渀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀✀猀 眀愀氀氀ഊfor a long time to come, make sure it will last. I can even offer a ਀猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 愀渀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀㨀  䴀愀欀攀 愀 挀愀爀搀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀椀渀最 漀昀 氀愀戀攀氀攀搀 戀氀漀挀欀猀ഊof your favorite and primary colors. Cover up all but a strip of that ਀瀀愀椀渀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 攀砀瀀漀猀攀 琀栀椀猀 琀漀 愀 眀椀渀搀漀眀 漀昀 猀甀渀氀椀最栀琀 昀漀爀 愀 洀漀渀琀栀⸀  䔀愀挀栀ഊsuccessive month, for the next six months, move the covering back until ਀愀 氀愀猀琀 猀琀爀椀瀀 椀猀 搀甀攀 琀漀 戀攀 甀渀挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 氀愀挀欀 漀昀 挀漀氀漀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 猀攀琀 漀昀 猀琀爀椀瀀猀 眀椀氀氀 愀猀琀漀甀渀搀 礀漀甀⸀ 吀栀攀 猀甀渀ഊwill have bleached it amazingly. And the 'higher' the letter rating on ਀琀栀攀 瀀愀椀渀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 氀攀猀猀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 琀栀攀 挀漀氀漀爀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 猀甀爀瘀椀瘀攀搀 椀琀猀 攀砀瀀漀猀甀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀挀椀漀爀猀琀愀渀ഊ(who invested heavily in a set of sable watercolor brushes and has never ਀爀攀最爀攀琀琀攀搀 椀琀 昀漀爀 愀 洀漀洀攀渀琀⤀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:42:35 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䠀攀氀攀渀 匀挀栀甀氀琀稀∀ 㰀洀攀椀猀琀攀爀渀 愀琀 椀焀甀攀猀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊTo: ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 戀攀最椀渀渀椀渀最 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀匀漀爀爀礀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 搀攀氀愀礀 䈀椀愀渀挀愀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 栀愀搀 猀漀洀攀 攀愀爀 愀渀搀 猀椀渀甀猀 猀甀爀最攀爀礀 漀渀 䘀爀椀搀愀礀ഊand have just now felt like sitting down at the computer. About papers. ਀吀栀攀 琀眀漀 氀攀愀猀琀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 琀漀 甀猀攀 愀爀攀 䄀爀挀栀攀猀 㤀　⌀ ⠀眀栀椀挀栀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 挀漀洀攀猀 椀渀ഊsheets large enough to quarter or cut into 8's) and Bristol Board (which ਀甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 挀漀洀攀猀 椀渀 瀀愀搀猀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 猀椀稀攀猀⤀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀 琀眀漀 瀀愀瀀攀爀猀 愀爀攀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 愀挀椀搀ഊfree and are heavy enough to withstand a lot of handling. You probably ਀眀愀渀琀 琀漀 猀琀愀礀 愀眀愀礀 昀爀漀洀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 琀栀椀渀 瀀愀瀀攀爀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀漀猀琀 搀攀昀椀渀椀琀攀氀礀 愀眀愀礀 昀爀漀洀ഊthe "calligraphy parchment" sold in pads near the calligraphy pens...not ਀琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 ⴀⴀ 爀攀愀氀氀礀⸀  䤀 栀漀瀀攀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀椀猀 漀昀 猀攀爀瘀椀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀䬀䠀瘀匀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. Harris callig-suppl-msg Page 19 of 19 ਀ഊ