SCA-royalty-msg - 9/23/08 ਀ഊThoughts and opinions on the SCA Royalty and what they should be. Why they are important. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: SCA-hist1-msg, The-Blow-art, Fndng-T-Dream-art, A-Peer-Within-art, Confrontation-art, coronets-msg, How-to-Behave-art. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊ--- ਀䘀爀漀洀 䠀攀渀爀礀 嘀㨀ഊ"we are the Makers of manners, Kate. Fashion courtseys to kings..." ਀ⴀⴀⴀഊTwo Voices ਀ഊThere is nothing above the King, ਀一漀 瀀漀眀攀爀 琀漀 猀瀀攀愀欀 栀椀洀 渀愀礀㬀ഊThis is the hour of anything, ਀吀栀攀 搀愀眀渀 漀昀 洀礀 最漀氀搀攀渀 搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀 氀愀眀 戀攀栀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 欀椀渀最㨀ഊGreater power, greater bond. ਀圀栀漀 洀椀最栀琀 漀爀搀攀爀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最ഊMust bend to the breeze like a willow wand. ਀ഊThere is nothing written above my throne. ਀一漀 猀琀爀攀渀最琀栀 挀愀渀 挀愀猀琀 洀攀 搀漀眀渀⸀ഊThe kingdom and power are mine alone ਀䈀礀 琀栀攀 猀眀漀爀搀 琀栀愀琀 眀漀渀 洀礀 挀爀漀眀渀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀 氀愀眀 戀攀栀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 欀椀渀最㨀ഊIn feast or famine, in peace or war, ਀䠀攀 椀猀 渀漀琀 洀愀猀琀攀爀 漀昀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最ⰀഊThe poorest peasant is richer far. ਀ഊThe knights with their shining swords; ਀䈀礀 爀椀最栀琀 漀昀 洀椀最栀琀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 洀椀渀攀⸀ഊThe people, their beasts and their lords; ਀䜀栀漀猀琀 戀攀 最漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀礀 爀椀搀搀氀攀 爀栀礀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀渀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀礀 昀漀漀氀椀猀栀 眀漀爀搀猀㬀ഊNo man may rule my land, ਀一漀 洀愀渀 挀愀渀 洀愀猀琀攀爀 愀 栀甀渀搀爀攀搀 猀眀漀爀搀猀ഊWhatever the strength of his hand. ਀ഊRule for power and pride ਀䄀氀漀渀攀 椀渀 愀渀 攀洀瀀琀礀 栀愀氀氀㬀ഊServe or step aside ਀吀栀攀 䬀椀渀最 椀猀 愀 猀攀爀瘀愀渀琀 漀爀 渀漀琀栀椀渀最 愀琀 愀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀           䐀甀欀攀 䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䈀漀眀ഊ--- ਀ഊDate: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:04:24 MST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 倀甀最 䈀愀椀渀琀攀爀 㰀瀀甀最 愀琀 瀀甀最⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: ANST - Questions about Kings & Queens ਀吀漀㨀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀伀刀䜀ഊ ਀䄀洀礀㈀ 㤀㠀㜀㘀㤀㤀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䄀洀礀㈀ 㤀㠀㜀㘀㤀㤀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀⤀ 猀愀椀搀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 猀漀甀渀搀攀搀 氀椀欀攀㨀ഊ> Please excuse me if I ask silly or difficult questions. ਀ഊI love these questions. *grin* ਀ഊRemember, these are *my* opinions. ਀ഊ> I have a general ideal of what the King/Queen does, but what are the ਀㸀 洀漀猀琀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀 欀椀渀最⼀焀甀攀攀渀 栀愀猀 琀漀 搀漀㼀ഊ ਀䐀攀愀氀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 攀洀漀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 甀氀琀攀爀椀漀爀 洀漀琀椀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 氀椀欀攀ഊthat make them human. Unfortunately everyone is different, so you have ਀琀漀 昀椀最甀爀攀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 漀昀 漀昀 搀漀椀渀最 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀 琀栀椀渀最 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊpopular thing. ਀ഊIf it wasn't for all the people, it would just be tiring and expensive. ਀ഊ> What makes a "good"crown? ਀ഊA crown that does the following: ਀ഊ1) Recognizes the people that deserve it. ਀㈀⤀ 䐀漀攀猀渀✀琀 瀀爀漀洀漀琀攀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 搀漀渀✀琀 搀攀猀攀爀瘀攀 椀琀⸀ഊ3) Makes good decisions that benefit the majority of the people instead ਀   漀昀 愀 猀攀氀攀挀琀 昀攀眀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 搀攀挀椀猀椀漀渀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 琀栀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀爀 漀渀攀猀ഊ though. ਀ഊ> What do people mean when they talk about an "ineffective crown"? ਀ഊAn ineffective crown is one that basically rides out the rein without doing ਀愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 猀瀀攀挀琀愀挀甀氀愀爀 渀漀爀 猀琀椀爀爀椀渀最 甀瀀 琀栀攀 眀愀琀琀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊmay not be remembered by the mass of the people. ON the other hand, they ਀愀爀攀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 椀渀 洀礀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀漀猀攀 ∀戀愀搀 挀爀漀眀渀猀∀⸀ഊ-- ਀倀栀攀氀椀洀 ∀倀甀最∀ 䜀攀爀瘀愀猀攀 ഊBryn Gwlad - Ansteorra ਀䐀愀爀欀 䠀漀爀搀攀 䴀漀爀椀琀甀      ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:20:31 MST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀刀愀礀戀甀爀渀Ⰰ 吀椀洀漀琀栀礀∀ 㰀吀刀愀礀戀甀爀渀 愀琀 椀渀猀甀爀搀愀琀愀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: RE: ANST - Questions about Kings & Queens ਀吀漀㨀 ∀✀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀伀刀䜀✀∀ 㰀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀伀刀䜀㸀ഊ ਀嬀匀䴀吀倀㨀䄀洀礀㈀ 㤀㠀㜀㘀㤀㤀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀崀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I'm very new to the SCA and have a few questions I'd like to ask. I ਀㸀 愀琀琀攀渀搀攀搀 愀 最爀漀甀瀀 瀀愀爀琀礀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 栀漀氀椀搀愀礀猀 愀渀搀 栀攀愀爀搀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 洀礀 渀攀眀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀ഊ> talk about kings and queens. I'm interested in learning more about the ਀㸀 ∀挀爀漀眀渀∀⸀  倀氀攀愀猀攀 攀砀挀甀猀攀 洀攀 椀昀 䤀 愀猀欀 猀椀氀氀礀 漀爀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ഊ> I have a general ideal of what the King/Queen does, but what are the ਀㸀 洀漀猀琀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀 欀椀渀最⼀焀甀攀攀渀 栀愀猀 琀漀 搀漀㼀 圀栀愀琀 洀愀欀攀猀 愀 ∀最漀漀搀∀挀爀漀眀渀㼀ഊ> What do people mean when they talk about an "ineffective crown"? ਀㸀ഊ> Amy ਀ഊWelcome to our fair Society, my dear lady. I hope you enjoy what you see ਀愀渀搀 氀攀愀爀渀 栀攀爀攀⸀  䰀攀琀 洀攀 猀攀攀 椀昀 䤀 挀愀渀 琀爀礀 琀漀 愀渀猀眀攀爀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 瘀攀爀礀ഊreasonable questions. ਀ഊ1) What are the most difficult things a king/queen has to do? ਀ഊHaving not served in the position, this is not exactly up my alley, but I ਀眀漀甀氀搀 漀昀昀攀爀 琀栀椀猀⸀  伀甀爀 䌀爀漀眀渀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀猀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 愀琀 愀渀ഊevent nearly every weekend. On top of this, they must deal with award ਀爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀愀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 搀攀挀椀猀椀漀渀猀 漀渀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 䰀愀眀Ⰰ 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 椀渀 氀漀挀愀氀 最爀漀甀瀀猀 ⸀⸀⸀ 伀栀Ⰰഊand I think most of them still hold down a full-time job. ;) The position ਀椀猀 漀渀攀 琀栀愀琀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀猀 椀洀洀攀渀猀攀 眀漀爀欀 愀渀搀 搀攀搀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀氀漀渀攀 搀攀猀攀爀瘀攀猀ഊthem the populace's respect. ਀ഊ2) What makes a "good" crown? ਀ഊThis answer will change by each person, as each person looks to the crown ਀昀漀爀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀⸀  倀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀氀礀 䤀 氀漀漀欀 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀爀漀眀渀 琀漀 戀攀 愀 猀栀椀渀椀渀最ഊexample of how this Society should be played. I look for a regal air and ਀瀀爀攀猀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 搀攀挀椀猀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 最攀渀攀爀漀甀猀 爀攀眀愀爀搀猀 琀漀 琀栀漀猀攀 最攀渀琀氀攀猀 眀栀漀 搀攀猀攀爀瘀攀ഊrecognition, and so forth. If a crown can do this, _I_ will consider them a ਀∀最漀漀搀∀ 挀爀漀眀渀⸀ഊ ਀㌀⤀ 圀栀愀琀 搀漀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 洀攀愀渀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 琀愀氀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀渀 ∀椀渀攀昀昀攀挀琀椀瘀攀 挀爀漀眀渀∀㼀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 琀漀 洀愀礀 瘀愀爀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 瘀攀爀礀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 栀愀猀 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 愀渀 椀渀攀昀昀攀挀琀椀瘀攀渀攀猀猀ഊto accomplish what needs to be accomplished within the Kingdom. We are a ਀搀椀瘀攀爀猀攀 愀渀搀 猀瀀椀爀椀琀攀搀 最爀漀甀瀀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 攀愀挀栀 䌀爀漀眀渀 洀甀猀琀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀椀爀 㤀 洀漀渀琀栀猀 ⠀㌀ 愀猀ഊPrince/Princess, 6 as Crown) to capture our hearts and at the least make the ਀挀栀愀渀最攀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 最漀漀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀⸀ഊ ਀圀栀愀琀 椀昀 最漀漀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 欀椀渀最搀漀洀 椀猀Ⰰ 愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 愀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 漀昀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀漀瀀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 栀愀猀 愀渀猀眀攀爀攀搀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 氀攀琀 洀攀ഊknow what area you reside in, I could put you in contact with your local ਀最爀漀甀瀀猀 䠀漀猀瀀椀琀愀氀氀攀爀⸀  吀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀渀 漀昀昀椀挀攀爀 眀栀漀 椀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 樀甀猀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀ഊtransition to joining our fair Society as easy as possible for you. They ਀挀愀渀 愀氀猀漀 愀渀猀眀攀爀 洀愀渀礀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 爀攀最愀爀搀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 愀ഊperfectly acceptable arena for such questions. ਀ഊHonor Super Gloria, ਀ഊTimothy of Glastonbury ਀倀爀漀琀攀最攀 琀漀 嘀椀猀挀漀甀渀琀 䜀愀氀攀渀 漀昀 䈀爀椀猀琀漀氀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 07:59:02 MST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䨀愀洀攀猀 䌀爀漀甀挀栀攀琀 㰀樀琀挀 愀琀 椀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: ANST - Questions about Kings & Queens ਀吀漀㨀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀伀刀䜀ഊ ਀㸀 㸀 圀栀愀琀 搀漀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 洀攀愀渀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 琀愀氀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀渀 ∀椀渀攀昀昀攀挀琀椀瘀攀 挀爀漀眀渀∀㼀ഊ ਀㸀 䄀渀 椀渀攀昀昀攀挀琀椀瘀攀 挀爀漀眀渀 椀猀 漀渀攀 琀栀愀琀 戀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 爀椀搀攀猀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 爀攀椀渀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 搀漀椀渀最ഊ> anything spectacular nor stirring up the water. These are the ones that ਀㸀 洀愀礀 渀漀琀 戀攀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀攀搀 戀礀 琀栀攀 洀愀猀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⸀ 伀一 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 栀愀渀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀ഊ> are better in my opinion that those "bad crowns". ਀ഊI don't think this is completely accurate. Rather, an ineffective ਀挀爀漀眀渀 椀猀 漀渀攀 琀栀愀琀 搀漀攀猀 渀漀琀 琀愀欀攀 挀愀爀攀 漀昀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀椀猀攀 愀渀搀 ഊdoes not give recognition that is deserved. It is entirely possible ਀昀漀爀 愀 挀爀漀眀渀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 爀攀椀最渀 眀栀攀爀攀 渀漀 倀攀攀爀猀Ⰰ 圀匀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ 愀爀攀 爀攀愀搀礀 琀漀 戀攀 ഊmade and there is no great disaster for them to fix. They cruise ਀琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀椀爀 爀攀椀最渀 最椀瘀椀渀最 猀甀挀栀 氀漀眀攀爀 氀攀瘀攀氀 爀攀挀漀最渀椀琀椀漀渀 愀猀 椀猀 搀攀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 ഊand making such decisions as are needed in a wise, considered way. ਀ഊMore likely is that the crown DID have quite a few problems to deal ਀眀椀琀栀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 搀椀搀 猀漀 焀甀椀攀琀氀礀 猀漀 夀伀唀 渀攀瘀攀爀 栀攀愀爀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀琀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 ഊhave simply chosen not to embarrass their subjects by displaying the ਀搀椀爀琀礀 氀愀甀渀搀爀礀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 欀渀漀眀 眀攀 栀愀搀 愀 爀攀椀最渀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 眀栀攀爀攀 渀漀 圀匀 眀攀爀攀 洀愀搀攀 ⴀⴀ 愀渀搀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 甀猀 ഊwere profoundly grateful. That did not mean that crown ignored us or ਀琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 樀漀戀 愀洀漀渀最 琀栀攀 圀匀 眀愀猀 攀愀猀礀 戀甀琀 洀漀猀琀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 ⠀攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 琀栀漀猀攀 ഊoutside the rapier community) probably never heard about any of that. ਀ഊBeing an ineffective crown comes from failure to act when needed, not ਀樀甀猀琀 氀愀挀欀 漀昀 愀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀䐀漀渀 䌀栀爀椀猀琀椀愀渀 䐀漀爀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:56:34 MST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀 䘀⸀ 䜀甀渀琀攀爀∀ 㰀洀椀挀栀愀攀氀⸀最甀渀琀攀爀 愀琀 昀渀挀⸀昀甀樀椀琀猀甀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: ANST - Questions about Kings & Queens (long-Gunthar talking) ਀吀漀㨀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀伀刀䜀ഊ ਀䤀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 猀攀渀琀 漀甀琀 愀 眀栀椀氀攀 愀最漀 愀渀搀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀ഊon your questions but I would like to add a little bit to the pile as well. ਀ഊ> I'm interested in learning more about the ਀㸀 ∀挀爀漀眀渀∀⸀  倀氀攀愀猀攀 攀砀挀甀猀攀 洀攀 椀昀 䤀 愀猀欀 猀椀氀氀礀 漀爀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 昀椀渀搀 渀漀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀 琀漀 愀瀀漀氀漀最椀稀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀猀攀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀ഊthat even those "old-timers" wonder about. I'm still a newbie after being ਀椀渀 漀渀氀礀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 ㄀㘀 礀攀愀爀猀⸀ 䜀漀漀搀渀攀猀猀℀ 圀栀攀爀攀 搀漀攀猀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 最漀㼀 䤀✀洀 猀琀椀氀氀 愀ഊteenager after all! ਀ഊ> I have a general ideal of what the King/Queen does, ਀ഊI found your little typo a bit amusing and illuminating. I know you meant to ਀琀礀瀀攀 ∀椀搀攀愀∀ 戀甀琀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 ∀椀搀攀愀氀∀ 椀琀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 眀漀爀搀⸀ 圀攀✀氀氀 昀椀爀猀琀 琀愀氀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀渀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀礀瀀漀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 猀愀椀搀⸀ 吀栀攀 ∀椀搀攀愀氀∀ 䌀爀漀眀渀 椀猀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀爀礀 洀攀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀椀爀 䌀爀漀眀渀猀 琀漀 戀攀 愀氀漀漀昀 愀渀搀 洀愀樀攀猀琀椀挀⸀ 䘀甀氀氀 漀昀 瀀漀眀攀爀 愀渀搀 昀甀爀礀⸀ 伀琀栀攀爀猀 氀椀欀攀 愀 ∀䴀漀洀 愀渀搀 䐀愀搀∀⸀  䰀漀瘀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀椀爀 挀栀椀氀搀爀攀渀 愀渀搀 戀攀氀漀瘀攀搀 戀礀 愀氀氀⸀ 夀攀琀 昀漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 琀栀攀 ∀椀搀攀愀氀∀ 䌀爀漀眀渀 椀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䰀愀甀最栀椀渀最 愀渀搀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 最愀洀攀 愀昀琀攀爀 愀氀氀⸀ 䘀漀爀 攀愀挀栀 漀昀ഊthese, if the other is on the throne then that Crown is slightly lacking. ਀ഊNow as to you having an idea of what the Crown does. It is funny how so many ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 椀渀 昀漀爀 洀愀渀礀 礀攀愀爀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 挀愀渀渀漀琀 琀爀甀氀礀 挀漀洀瀀爀攀栀攀渀搀 愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀ഊa Crown does unless they have been Crown or CLOSE entourage. Even after ਀戀攀椀渀最 愀 欀渀椀最栀琀 昀漀爀 漀瘀攀爀 攀椀最栀琀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀渀搀 挀氀漀猀攀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀 漀昀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 䌀爀漀眀渀猀 䤀 眀愀猀ഊunprepared for all that went into being King. I knew that Crowns sat in Court ਀愀渀搀 最愀瘀攀 漀甀琀 愀眀愀爀搀猀 愀渀搀 爀攀挀椀攀瘀攀搀 氀漀愀搀猀 漀昀 最漀漀搀椀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 愀搀漀爀椀渀最 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀挀攀⸀ഊI knew they sat and gave judgement in Circle. I knew they went to events ਀愀氀洀漀猀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀 眀攀攀欀攀渀搀 戀甀琀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 漀欀愀礀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 最漀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀礀ഊgot on site free and got free meals and didn't have to really work, no fighting, ਀渀漀 挀氀攀愀渀椀渀最 甀瀀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀⸀⸀  吀栀攀礀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 猀愀椀搀 栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀 戀攀椀渀最 䌀爀漀眀渀 猀甀挀欀攀搀 戀甀琀ഊalways wanted to do it again. Okay. So I knew all about being Crown. ਀ഊAnd then the King placed the Circlet of the Prince upon my brow. Thus I was ਀爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 挀漀洀昀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 眀漀洀戀 漀昀 渀漀渀ⴀ刀漀礀愀氀琀礀 愀渀搀 攀渀琀攀爀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 刀攀愀氀ഊWorld of the Crown. As an example. I didn't even have a chance to change out ਀漀昀 洀礀 愀爀洀漀爀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 䤀 眀愀猀 猀椀琀琀椀渀最 椀渀 愀 倀攀氀椀挀愀渀 洀攀攀琀椀渀最⸀ 䄀昀琀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 猀栀漀眀攀爀攀搀Ⰰഊchanged and ate. As soon as I was through with dinner I sat in a Belted Circle ਀甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 愀爀爀椀瘀愀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 甀渀欀渀漀眀椀渀最 倀爀椀渀挀攀猀猀⸀ 䌀漀甀爀琀 眀愀猀 焀甀椀挀欀氀礀 愀猀猀攀洀戀氀攀搀 愀渀搀 猀栀攀 最漀琀 琀栀攀 猀甀爀瀀爀椀猀攀 漀昀 栀攀爀 氀椀昀攀⸀ 䄀昀琀攀爀 䌀漀甀爀琀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀琀椀渀甀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䈀攀氀琀攀搀ഊCircle (we could see the party our household was having), from the Belted Circle ਀眀攀 眀攀渀琀 琀漀 愀 䜀爀攀愀琀 伀昀昀椀挀攀爀猀 漀昀 匀琀愀琀攀 洀攀攀琀椀渀最 眀栀椀挀栀 昀椀渀愀氀氀礀 挀漀渀挀氀甀搀攀搀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 ㄀㨀㌀ ഊin the morning. By the time the new Prince and Princess got back to camp ਀攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 栀愀搀 最漀渀攀 琀漀 戀攀搀⸀ 圀攀氀挀漀洀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 昀甀渀ⴀ昀椀氀氀攀搀 氀椀昀攀 漀昀 刀漀礀愀氀琀礀⸀ഊ ਀䌀爀漀眀渀猀 瀀甀琀 椀渀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 栀漀甀爀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀攀攀欀 搀攀愀氀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 瀀栀漀渀攀 挀愀氀氀猀Ⰰ 愀眀愀爀搀ഊrecommendations, planning for the next event, fixing problems that arise in the Kingdom, washing, unpacking, packing, writing reports and submissions to the newsletter, having people over all the time, etc... ਀ഊBut then they get to go to the event and be King and Queen. In our 6 months as ਀䌀爀漀眀渀 眀攀 最漀琀 ㌀ 眀攀攀欀攀渀搀猀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀⸀ 圀攀 眀攀渀琀 昀爀漀洀 一漀爀琀栀欀攀攀瀀 琀漀 䰀愀 䴀愀爀挀栀攀 匀愀甀瘀愀最攀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 䈀漀爀搀攀爀洀愀爀挀栀攀 琀漀 䄀搀氀攀爀猀爀甀栀攀⸀ 刀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 眀攀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀瀀漀琀氀椀最栀琀 渀漀琀 樀甀猀琀 眀栀攀渀 眀攀 愀爀爀椀瘀攀搀 漀渀 猀椀琀攀 戀甀琀 攀瘀攀渀 眀栀攀渀 栀漀洀攀⸀ 䘀爀攀焀甀攀渀琀氀礀Ⰰ 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 洀攀攀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀渀最搀漀洀 愀猀 眀攀 搀攀猀椀爀攀搀Ⰰ 眀攀 栀愀搀 琀漀 戀攀 猀攀焀甀攀猀琀攀爀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 氀漀挀愀氀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀最攀猀 琀漀 愀琀琀攀渀搀 琀漀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 琀栀愀琀 漀渀氀礀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 挀漀甀氀搀 昀椀砀⸀ 圀攀 最漀琀 琀漀 猀椀琀 愀渀搀 眀愀琀挀栀 琀栀攀 昀椀最栀琀椀渀最 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 戀攀椀渀最 漀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 昀甀渀 琀漀漀⸀ 伀昀琀攀渀 眀攀 洀椀猀猀攀搀 琀栀攀 昀椀最栀琀椀渀最 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀挀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 愀瀀瀀爀漀愀挀栀 甀猀 琀漀 挀栀愀琀⸀ 吀愀氀欀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 漀甀爀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀挀攀 眀愀猀 愀 琀爀甀攀 樀漀礀⸀ 䄀渀搀 搀攀昀椀渀愀琀攀氀礀 眀漀爀琀栀 洀椀猀猀椀渀最 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 昀椀最栀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀猀 䌀爀漀眀渀 䤀 最漀琀 琀漀 猀椀琀 椀渀 愀 挀爀漀眀搀攀搀 爀漀漀洀 昀椀氀氀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 漀琀栀攀爀 栀椀最栀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀最攀猀 愀渀搀ഊDecide to cancel Gulf War and tell 4000 people to go home. But at that same time I got to see people from all kingdoms helping each other out and having a party to defy the elements. I still get a tear when I remember the ovation the populace gave us in that damp court. That's a tenth of what a Crown does. ਀ഊ> but what are the most difficult things a king/queen has to do? ਀ഊAll of your questions are simple but all have many levels of answers. The most ਀搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀㼀ഊ->Going against a friend's wishes because you feel what you do is right for the ਀䬀椀渀最搀漀洀⸀ഊ->Going against YOUR wishes because you feel what you do is right for the ਀䬀椀渀最搀漀洀⸀ഊ->Keeping a smile on your face when everything is crashing down around you. ਀ⴀ㸀一漀琀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 搀爀甀渀欀Ⰰ 漀爀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 搀愀氀氀椀愀渀挀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀愀琀 挀甀琀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 琀栀椀渀最 昀氀椀爀琀椀渀最ഊwith you or throwing a tantrum when little things build up because you are the Crown and everything you do is a reflection of your Kingdom. ਀ⴀ㸀䈀攀椀渀最 搀椀瀀氀漀洀愀琀椀挀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 琀攀氀氀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 琀漀 最攀琀 猀琀甀昀昀攀搀⸀ഊ->Having huge arguments with your consort on whether or not to give an award. ਀ⴀ㸀䐀爀椀瘀椀渀最Ⰰ 搀爀椀瘀椀渀最Ⰰ 搀爀椀瘀椀渀最⸀ഊ->Seeing your friends having to setup or break camp and working their tails off ਀眀栀椀氀攀 礀漀甀 猀椀琀 椀渀 洀攀攀琀椀渀最猀 愀渀搀 愀爀攀渀✀琀 愀氀氀漀眀攀搀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 圀栀愀琀 洀愀欀攀猀 愀 ∀最漀漀搀∀挀爀漀眀渀㼀 圀栀愀琀ഊ> do people mean when they talk about an "ineffective crown"? ਀ഊThis depends on what you look for in a Crown. Do they match what a Crown is ਀匀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 栀攀愀搀㼀 吀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 䌀爀漀眀渀⸀ 䤀 最甀攀猀猀 昀漀爀 洀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 䌀爀漀眀渀 椀猀 愀 䌀爀漀眀渀 眀栀漀 挀愀爀攀猀 洀漀爀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀礀 搀漀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀 漀爀 琀栀攀椀爀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀⸀ 䄀 䌀爀漀眀渀 眀栀漀 氀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀挀攀 愀猀 琀栀攀椀爀 昀愀洀椀氀礀 愀渀搀 愀氀氀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 猀攀爀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 䌀爀漀眀渀 椀猀 愀 䌀爀漀眀渀 眀栀漀 洀愀欀攀猀 椀琀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀挀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 洀愀欀攀 礀漀甀ഊproud to be Ansteorran. The best Crown is one where you feel they have no problems because they take care of the nasty stuff away from the crowd and deal with it before it gets big. ਀ഊAn ineffective Crown is a Crown that is forgotten two reigns later. A Crown that ਀搀漀攀猀 渀攀椀琀栀攀爀 爀攀愀氀 戀愀搀 漀爀 爀攀愀氀 最漀漀搀⸀ 䈀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 愀氀猀漀 搀漀渀✀琀 椀渀猀瀀椀爀攀 琀栀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀挀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀挀攀 最漀攀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀琀猀 戀甀猀椀渀攀猀猀 愀渀搀 搀漀攀猀 琀栀攀 挀漀甀爀琀攀猀礀 琀栀椀渀最 戀甀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 搀漀渀✀琀 昀攀攀氀 漀渀攀 眀愀礀 漀爀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 漀爀 氀漀漀欀 昀漀爀眀愀爀搀 琀漀 猀攀攀椀渀最 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 渀攀砀琀 䌀爀漀眀渀 戀爀椀渀最猀⸀ഊ ਀䈀愀搀 䌀爀漀眀渀猀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最⸀ 吀栀攀礀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀 愀戀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀挀攀ഊAnd will weild whatever power they have like a club. They will bring shame upon the kingdom and definately start conversations. Their replacements are usually welcomed enthusiastically. ਀ഊBut several bad Crowns in a row can drop a kingdom to low levels of morale and ਀挀栀愀漀猀⸀ 䤀琀 琀愀欀攀猀 愀 猀琀爀漀渀最 䌀爀漀眀渀 琀漀 爀攀瀀愀椀爀 琀栀攀 搀愀洀愀最攀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 栀攀氀瀀椀渀最 洀攀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 䤀✀瘀攀 栀攀氀瀀攀搀 礀漀甀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最⸀ 匀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀搀搀攀搀ഊtheir ideas and this is just some of mine. The only way you will learn about Crowns is to see them in action and judge for yourself. ਀ഊGood luck, Amy and I hope you find out. ਀ഊ> Amy ਀ഊGunthar ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䨀愀渀 ㈀    ㄀㄀㨀 㤀㨀㌀㔀 䴀匀吀ഊFrom: "Michael F. Gunter" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䄀一匀吀 ⴀ 吀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 ⴀ 䰀漀渀最 愀最愀椀渀ഊTo: Ansteorra ਀ഊHi again Amy and Ansteorra, ਀ഊIn my post about being Crown I seemed to focus ਀漀渀 琀栀攀 渀攀最愀琀椀瘀攀猀⸀ 䴀愀椀渀氀礀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀ഊway Amy asked the questions. I think it may ਀栀愀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 洀攀 猀攀攀洀 戀椀琀琀攀爀 漀爀 戀甀爀渀攀搀 漀甀琀⸀ 倀氀攀愀猀攀ഊknow that being Crown is not all drudgery. ਀一漀眀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 甀瀀 猀椀搀攀⸀ഊ ਀吀漀 戀攀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 漀昀 愀渀礀 欀椀渀最搀漀洀 椀猀 琀爀甀氀礀 戀甀爀搀攀渀 愀渀搀ഊjoy. Often for the same reasons. You ARE the kindom. ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀氀搀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀甀爀搀攀渀猀 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 樀漀礀猀 漀昀 戀攀椀渀最ഊCrown far outstrip any discomfort. ਀ഊI'll forgo the obvious items like you get the big hat ਀愀渀搀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 栀愀猀 琀漀 戀漀眀 琀漀 礀漀甀⸀ 吀栀愀琀✀猀 漀戀瘀椀漀甀猀 愀渀搀ഊactually gets uncomfortable sometimes. ਀ഊBut you get to see how the kingdom works from the ਀椀渀猀椀搀攀⸀ 夀漀甀 猀椀琀 椀渀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 䌀椀爀挀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀爀甀氀礀 最攀琀 琀漀 欀渀漀眀ഊthe other Peers, Centurions, & White Scarves. You ਀搀攀愀氀 挀氀漀猀攀氀礀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 伀昀昀椀挀攀爀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ 吀漀ഊwork with these people gives you a deeper understanding ਀漀昀 栀漀眀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀甀搀搀攀渀氀礀 礀漀甀 猀攀攀 琀栀攀 最攀愀爀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊmake the Kingdom ride smoothly. ਀ഊTo recieve gifts is a joy beyond the material. It means ਀礀漀甀 愀爀攀 搀漀椀渀最 愀 最漀漀搀 樀漀戀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 挀愀爀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀ഊabout you to go to the extra effort of doing something ਀琀漀 洀愀欀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瀀瀀礀⸀ 䄀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 渀椀挀攀猀琀 最椀昀琀猀 䤀 爀攀挀椀攀瘀攀搀ഊas King were simply left in the chair while I was away. ਀吀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 搀漀渀攀 猀漀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 挀漀甀氀搀 ∀氀漀漀欀 最漀漀搀 戀攀昀漀爀攀ഊthe King" but simply because they wanted to do something ਀渀椀挀攀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 椀琀攀洀猀 眀攀爀攀 愀猀 最爀愀渀搀 愀猀 愀 挀愀洀瀀 戀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀眀漀ഊ(who will forget the King and Queen being carried around ਀琀栀攀 栀愀氀氀 漀渀 椀琀㼀⤀ 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 眀攀爀攀 愀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 愀猀 愀 昀氀漀眀攀爀⸀ 䄀渀搀ഊto know we brought honor to the person by merely accepting ਀椀琀 愀渀搀 猀愀礀椀渀最 琀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀 眀愀猀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 最椀昀琀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 最椀昀琀 椀琀猀攀氀昀⸀ഊ ਀吀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 最攀渀琀氀攀 挀爀礀 琀攀愀爀猀 漀昀 栀愀瀀瀀椀渀攀猀猀 愀渀搀 攀洀戀愀爀愀猀猀洀攀渀琀ഊwhen we gave them an award is what makes it all real. ਀䄀琀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 眀攀 最愀瘀攀 愀渀 䄀漀䄀 愀渀搀 洀愀搀攀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀ഊpart of the family is when I truly felt a King. Also presiding ਀漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 最爀愀渀搀攀甀爀 愀渀搀 挀攀爀攀洀漀渀礀 漀昀 愀 倀攀攀爀愀最攀 椀猀 戀漀琀栀ഊdaunting and exhilarating. To forever be to someone "Their ਀䬀椀渀最∀ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 琀栀攀礀 猀愀眀 漀爀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀 眀栀漀 最愀瘀攀ഊthem their AoA is something all Crowns know. ਀ഊBut the moments which truly made everything real were those ਀琀椀洀攀猀 漀昀 搀甀爀攀猀猀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 挀愀洀攀 甀瀀 琀漀 洀攀 愀渀搀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 愀ഊdecision made or an answer NOW! To give a command and ਀琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 戀漀眀 愀渀搀 猀愀礀 ∀夀攀猀Ⰰ 夀漀甀爀 䴀愀樀攀猀琀礀∀ 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 最漀ഊto do your bidding is heady and humbling. They will do as you ਀琀攀氀氀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䴀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 椀琀✀猀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀 琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀圀愀氀欀椀渀最 漀爀 爀椀搀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 最漀氀搀攀渀 猀甀爀挀漀琀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䄀爀洀猀 漀昀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀ഊwith the army at your back, banners swirling, drums and pipes ਀挀愀氀氀椀渀最 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 愀爀洀礀 猀椀渀最椀渀最 琀栀攀 戀愀琀琀氀攀 栀礀洀渀猀 漀昀 漀甀爀 氀愀渀搀 洀愀欀攀猀ഊyou feel invincible! For this moment you are the CROWN! ਀ഊI am not tired or embittered by my term as King. Quite the ਀漀瀀瀀漀猀椀琀攀⸀ 圀栀攀渀攀瘀攀爀 䤀 搀漀 最攀琀 琀椀爀攀搀 漀爀 眀漀渀搀攀爀 椀昀 椀琀 眀愀猀 眀漀爀琀栀 椀琀ഊI can think back to times as Crown and relive some of the ਀樀漀礀猀 愀渀搀 最氀漀爀礀 漀昀 氀攀愀搀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 氀愀渀搀⸀ 吀栀攀 瀀爀椀搀攀 漀昀 眀愀琀挀栀椀渀最 ∀洀礀∀ഊarmy take the fort at Gulf War. Feeling unworthy as people ਀挀栀攀攀爀攀搀 愀琀 䌀漀爀漀渀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䄀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 昀攀攀氀椀渀最 氀椀欀攀 䤀 眀愀猀 昀愀琀栀攀爀 琀漀 琀栀椀猀ഊpopulace (sometimes unruly children but loved nonetheless). ਀吀栀攀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀 栀愀瀀瀀椀渀攀猀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 渀攀眀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀 眀攀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 昀愀爀 愀眀愀礀ഊplaces (like Le Marche Sauvage). Meeting and becoming friends ਀眀椀琀栀 漀琀栀攀爀 洀漀渀愀爀挀栀猀 眀栀漀 挀愀渀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 戀攀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 最爀漀漀瘀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀ഊthemselves. To sit in State and have the populace come forward ਀樀甀猀琀 琀漀 琀愀氀欀⸀ 吀栀攀 漀瀀攀渀 愀爀洀猀 漀昀 攀瘀攀爀礀 最爀漀甀瀀 眀攀 瘀椀猀椀琀攀搀⸀ 吀栀攀 搀攀氀椀最栀琀ഊof ordinary things that I would do anyway suddenly becoming ਀瘀攀爀礀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 ⠀琀栀攀 䬀䤀一䜀 挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 氀愀搀礀✀猀 椀挀攀 挀栀攀猀琀℀⤀⸀ 吀漀 欀渀漀眀ഊyour friends care enough about you that they will work their ਀琀愀椀氀猀 漀昀昀 昀漀爀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 爀攀眀愀爀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 氀椀昀攀 愀 戀椀琀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 昀漀爀ഊyou. (But we do pay for it later, don't we guys?) ਀ഊWould I do it again? I don't know. Everything is up the the fates. ਀䴀愀礀戀攀 椀昀 䤀 挀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 儀甀攀攀渀 愀猀 瀀攀爀昀攀挀琀 愀猀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀 䤀 栀愀搀 愀渀搀ഊthe people wanted it and my fighting was up to the task. ਀䈀甀琀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀攀瘀攀爀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 洀攀洀漀爀椀攀猀 爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀搀⸀ 䈀攀椀渀最 䌀爀漀眀渀 椀猀ഊindeed hard work but it is more than made up by the people who ਀愀氀氀漀眀 礀漀甀 琀漀 戀攀 琀栀愀琀 䌀爀漀眀渀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀漀瀀攀 琀栀椀猀 戀愀氀愀渀挀攀猀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀 戀椀琀⸀ഊ ਀䜀甀渀琀栀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 18:31:13 MST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 樀漀渀眀椀氀氀漀眀瀀攀氀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: ANST - Good Kings & Queens? answer ਀吀漀㨀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀伀刀䜀ഊ ਀䜀爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀 䄀洀礀 昀爀漀洀 䐀甀挀栀攀猀猀 圀椀氀氀漀眀 搀攀 圀椀猀瀀 ഊ ਀䠀椀 䄀洀礀℀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 儀甀攀攀渀 琀栀爀攀攀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 漀渀挀攀 椀渀 䄀琀攀渀瘀攀氀琀 愀渀搀 琀眀椀挀攀 椀渀ഊAnsteorra. I can tell you that the most important thing a crown does is ਀洀愀欀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 琀栀攀 栀愀爀搀攀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀ 圀攀 栀愀瘀攀 挀爀攀愀琀攀搀 愀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 洀漀搀攀氀⸀ 䤀渀 漀甀爀 挀愀猀攀 椀琀 椀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀ഊThrough interaction with this model we experience the middle ages. But ਀漀甀爀 洀漀搀攀氀 椀猀 猀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀 琀漀 愀氀氀漀眀猀 甀猀 琀漀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 椀搀攀愀氀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀ഊages not the historical reality. It is important to note we are creating ਀愀 眀漀爀氀搀 戀愀猀攀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 搀爀攀愀洀猀 漀昀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ 吀栀攀 猀琀愀琀攀洀攀渀琀 ∀渀漀琀 愀猀 椀琀 眀愀猀ഊbut as it ought to be" means the ought of been of the people of the ਀洀椀搀搀氀攀 愀最攀猀⸀ 圀攀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 猀琀甀搀礀椀渀最 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 眀攀 愀爀攀 猀琀甀搀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊhistory of ideals. ਀ഊThis brings up an interesting problem for the Crown. They are in charge ਀漀昀 洀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 洀漀搀攀氀 眀漀爀欀 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 眀椀琀栀 爀攀愀氀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀ഊhave to create around them this magical world where everyone's dream has ਀愀 挀栀愀渀挀攀 琀漀 氀椀瘀攀 愀渀搀 愀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀椀洀攀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 琀漀 搀愀礀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最Ⰰ 瀀漀眀攀爀ഊplays. misunderstandings, red tape and fights out of the line light. I ਀挀愀渀 琀攀氀氀 礀漀甀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 栀愀爀搀⸀ ഊ ਀吀栀攀 洀漀搀攀氀 猀琀愀爀琀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 挀栀椀攀昀 瀀氀愀礀攀爀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀栀漀眀⸀ഊThey sit up in front and it looks like everything comes to them but this ਀椀猀 渀漀琀 琀爀甀攀⸀  吀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 瀀攀爀昀漀爀洀攀爀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 猀攀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀最攀 琀栀愀琀ഊallows everyone else to play. They are also the MC's. They make sure ਀攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 攀氀猀攀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀猀⸀ 䘀爀漀洀 琀栀攀洀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 漀昀 甀猀 琀愀欀攀 漀甀爀 挀甀攀猀⸀ 䤀䘀ഊthe crown says let there be entertainment, there is entertainment. If the ਀䌀爀漀眀渀 愀猀欀 昀漀爀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ 䤀昀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 愀猀欀 昀漀爀ഊdancing, there is dancing. If the Crown ask for role playing, there is ਀爀漀氀攀 瀀氀愀礀椀渀最⸀ 䴀愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀猀 眀攀 瀀氀愀礀 瀀爀椀瘀攀琀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀ഊCrown's representative, the baron/ess. The Crown embodies the Spirit of ਀䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀ 圀攀 搀攀瀀攀渀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀椀爀 椀渀猀椀最栀琀 愀渀搀 椀洀愀最椀渀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ ഊ ਀䄀 最漀漀搀 䌀爀漀眀渀 洀愀欀攀猀 琀栀攀 䜀愀洀攀 攀砀挀椀琀椀渀最 昀漀爀 甀猀⸀  吀栀攀礀 挀爀攀愀琀攀 猀椀琀甀愀琀椀漀渀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊallows us to feel that we are in a magical world. Our dreams come alive. ਀䄀 䜀漀漀搀 䌀爀漀眀渀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 愀氀氀漀眀 琀栀攀 洀愀猀欀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 爀攀愀氀椀琀礀 琀漀 猀氀椀瀀⸀ 䄀 最漀漀搀ഊCrown doesn't let our peers appear petty or knights appear as anything ਀戀甀琀 栀攀爀漀椀挀⸀ 䄀 最漀漀搀 䌀爀漀眀渀 眀椀氀氀 瀀愀爀攀 搀漀眀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀搀 琀愀瀀攀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 最漀瘀攀爀渀洀攀渀琀ഊfriendly to the people and try to keep all of us behaving at our best. ਀吀栀攀 最漀漀搀 䌀爀漀眀渀 眀椀氀氀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀 漀甀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 昀漀爀 甀猀⸀ ഊ ਀䄀渀  ∀椀渀攀昀昀攀挀琀椀瘀攀 挀爀漀眀渀∀ 椀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 愀 䌀爀漀眀渀 琀栀愀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 搀漀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀⸀ഊSometimes it is because they lack "Presence". ( A side note; the reason ਀琀栀愀琀 眀攀 氀椀欀攀 漀甀爀 瀀攀攀爀猀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 倀爀攀猀攀渀挀攀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 倀爀攀猀攀渀挀攀 栀攀氀瀀 琀栀攀ഊCrown with theirs). They just sit up front and talk to their friends. ਀伀昀琀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 猀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀 琀漀 戀攀 搀漀椀渀最⸀ 伀昀琀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀ഊno historical background. (The creation of a dream around the Crown and ਀琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 ∀匀䠀伀圀∀  眀愀猀 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 瀀漀氀椀琀椀挀愀氀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 漀昀 漀甀爀ഊmost effective crown have simply stolen ideas from historical figures.) ਀匀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 猀攀氀昀椀猀栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 愀猀 䌀爀漀眀渀 眀攀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀 瀀甀琀 栀攀爀攀ഊto entertain them. Sometimes they lack imagination and their ideas don't ਀昀氀礀⸀ 匀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 琀栀攀礀 挀愀渀✀琀 搀攀氀攀最愀琀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 栀椀爀攀 琀栀攀 眀爀漀渀最 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 挀爀攀愀琀攀ഊthe show or they don't realize that most of their officers are so busy ਀最攀琀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀爀礀搀愀礀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊhave time to create magic. Sometimes they try to do things with too few ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⸀ 䴀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀 椀琀 椀猀 昀爀漀洀 氀愀挀欀 漀昀 攀搀甀挀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 眀栀礀 琀栀攀 猀攀挀漀渀搀ഊtime Crowns are usually better at the job. ਀ഊI know my statement brings up a lot more questions but if I write any ਀洀漀爀攀 琀栀攀礀 眀椀氀氀 琀栀爀漀眀 洀攀 漀昀昀 琀栀椀猀 氀椀猀琀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 栀攀愀爀 愀戀漀甀琀ഊhistorical techniques and SCA examples of how "good" Crown have worked ਀樀甀猀琀 愀猀欀⸀ ഊ ਀夀漀甀爀猀 ഊDuchess Willow de Wisp ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䨀愀渀 ㈀    ㈀ 㨀 ㄀㨀㄀㈀ ⴀ 㘀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 伀欀愀礀Ⰰ 洀礀 氀椀昀攀 樀甀猀琀 最漀琀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䄀琀 ㌀㨀 ㄀ 倀䴀 ⴀ 㤀   ㄀⼀㄀㜀⼀  Ⰰ 䬀攀爀爀椀 䌀愀渀攀瀀愀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>If any of you were to become Royalty and could influence the culinary sphere, ਀㸀眀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀㼀ഊ ਀䠀愀瘀攀 猀甀椀琀愀戀氀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 渀椀戀戀氀攀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 琀漀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 愀爀攀 ഊvisiting the royalty. Hospitality was an important period virtue, and ਀椀琀 椀猀 愀渀 漀瀀瀀漀爀琀甀渀椀琀礀 琀漀 攀砀瀀漀猀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀䄀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 挀甀氀椀渀愀爀礀 戀甀琀 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 爀漀礀愀氀琀礀 愀琀 昀攀愀猀琀猀㨀ഊ ਀䤀渀 洀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 愀琀 栀椀最栀 琀愀戀氀攀 愀爀攀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 愀氀氀漀挀愀琀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 ഊhighest ranking people around. This is a mistake. From the standpoint ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 猀攀渀椀漀爀 搀甀欀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 爀漀漀洀Ⰰ 戀攀椀渀最 愀琀 栀椀最栀 琀愀戀氀攀 椀猀渀✀琀 愀 ഊparticular honor, and he would probably prefer to eat with his ਀昀爀椀攀渀搀猀⸀ 䘀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀渀搀瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀 愀 爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 渀攀眀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 愀 ഊstunning honor. ਀ഊThe policy I recommend is to keep a couple of places at high table ਀漀瀀攀渀⸀ 䄀琀 猀漀洀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 眀椀氀氀 搀漀 ഊsomething that impresses you--fight beautifully even though he is ਀爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 渀攀眀Ⰰ 最漀 琀漀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 琀爀漀甀戀氀攀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 漀琀栀攀爀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 琀攀氀氀 愀 ഊmoving period story, turn out to be a blacksmith who makes beautiful ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ ⸀⸀⸀  ⸀ 䤀渀瘀椀琀攀 栀椀洀 愀渀搀 栀椀猀 氀愀搀礀 ⠀漀爀 栀攀爀 愀渀搀 ഊher lord) to join you at high table. ਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀搀搀昀爀⼀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:04:45 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀 䜀甀渀琀攀爀∀ 㰀挀漀甀渀琀最甀渀琀栀愀爀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: SC - Arguing with the Crown ਀ഊ>I think a lot of it has to do with how long you've been in the SCA, how ਀㸀礀漀甀✀瘀攀 洀漀瘀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀椀爀挀氀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀洀洀甀渀椀挀愀琀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 ∀挀攀渀琀攀爀猀 漀昀 瀀漀眀攀爀∀ 眀椀琀栀椀渀 ഊ>your kingdom and the kind of relationship you have with the Crown. ਀ഊHeh. I feel kind of sorry for my Crowns. I tend to let them know ਀眀栀愀琀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀⸀ 伀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀 栀攀氀瀀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 欀渀椀最栀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 瀀愀猀琀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀ഊand actually acted as a bit of a mentor when they were squires so ਀猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀猀 挀漀洀攀 漀甀琀 愀猀 ∀䰀椀猀琀攀渀 䨀甀渀椀漀爀⸀⸀⸀⸀∀⸀  䈀甀琀 䤀✀洀ഊan arrogant lout. ਀ഊ>There are a ਀㸀渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀Ⰰ 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 䬀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀 挀漀甀氀搀 琀愀氀欀 琀漀 焀甀椀琀攀 栀漀渀攀猀琀氀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊ>that honesty would be appreciated. On the other hand, there are a few who, ਀㸀眀栀攀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 愀渀 栀漀渀攀猀琀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀Ⰰ 最攀琀 愀渀最爀礀⸀⸀⸀漀渀攀 攀瘀攀渀 琀爀椀攀搀 琀漀 戀愀渀椀猀栀 洀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 ഊ>SCA some years ago! ਀ഊOne thing that any Crown, or autocrat or seneschal or basically anyone ਀椀渀 瀀漀眀攀爀Ⰰ 渀攀攀搀猀 琀漀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 漀琀栀攀爀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 栀愀瘀攀 瘀愀氀甀愀戀氀攀ഊideas as well. And them's that's in charge need to be able to have ਀愀 瘀愀氀椀搀 愀渀搀 氀漀最椀挀愀氀 攀砀瀀氀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 搀漀椀渀最 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 搀漀⸀ 䄀渀搀 愀氀猀漀ഊto acknowledge that they aren't all-knowing. The worst Crowns I've ਀猀攀攀渀 愀爀攀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 愀戀猀漀氀甀琀攀 瀀漀眀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀⸀ഊI was always willing to listen to what people had to say. I may not ਀栀愀瘀攀 愀最爀攀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 椀琀 戀甀琀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 䤀 栀愀搀 愀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 昀漀爀 渀漀琀 愀最爀攀攀椀渀最ഊinstead of "I'm King and how dare you question me?". Too many Crowns ਀昀漀爀最攀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 猀琀攀瀀 搀漀眀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀甀愀氀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 渀攀瘀攀爀 猀琀漀瀀瀀攀搀 洀攀 昀爀漀洀 戀攀椀渀最 栀漀渀攀猀琀⸀⸀⸀愀渀搀Ⰰ 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀ഊ>diplomatically, letting the Crowns know how I feel! ਀ഊAs all members of the populace should do. For better or worse. ਀䌀爀漀眀渀猀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 猀挀爀攀眀 甀瀀 愀渀搀 愀 最漀漀搀 漀渀攀 眀椀氀氀 愀瀀漀氀漀最椀稀攀ഊand try to correct it. But it also helps when they are told about ਀琀栀攀 最漀漀搀 猀琀甀昀昀 琀栀攀礀 搀漀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀䄀渀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀 漀昀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 最漀漀搀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 昀漀爀 搀漀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 愀渀搀 琀愀欀椀渀最ഊthe time out to explain happened to me. We had to make a decision ਀愀戀漀甀琀 挀栀愀渀最椀渀最 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 氀愀眀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 瘀椀攀眀攀搀 椀琀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 眀攀爀攀 甀猀椀渀最ഊour power to help out a couple of friends. One Peer wrote to us and ਀戀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 猀愀椀搀 眀攀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 挀愀氀氀 愀 䌀漀甀爀琀 漀昀 䌀栀椀瘀愀氀爀礀 漀渀 伀甀爀猀攀氀瘀攀猀⸀ഊI wrote this Peer and explained why we made the decision we did. How ਀琀栀攀 氀愀眀 眀愀猀 愀 戀愀搀 氀愀眀 愀渀搀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 挀栀愀渀最攀搀Ⰰ 栀漀眀 椀琀 眀愀猀 挀栀愀渀最攀搀 愀琀 琀栀攀ഊrequest of the populace it affected and that we would have made the ਀挀栀愀渀最攀 攀瘀攀渀 椀昀 眀攀 眀攀爀攀渀✀琀 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 瀀愀爀琀椀攀猀 椀琀ഊaffected. I then told the Peer that we declined his request to hold ਀愀 䌀漀甀爀琀 漀昀 䌀栀椀瘀愀氀爀礀 漀渀 甀猀 戀甀琀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀 栀愀搀 漀甀爀 瀀攀爀洀椀猀猀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 栀椀猀ഊrequest to the BoD if my explanation wasn't satisfactory. A few months ਀氀愀琀攀爀 琀栀椀猀 倀攀攀爀 愀瀀瀀爀漀愀挀栀攀搀 洀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀愀渀欀攀搀 洀攀 昀漀爀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊsituation and that he had just been representing some people who ਀搀椀搀渀✀琀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀椀琀甀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䤀昀 䤀 栀愀搀 琀愀欀攀渀 琀栀攀 ∀匀挀爀攀眀 礀漀甀Ⰰ 䤀✀洀ഊKing and can do what I want" stance I could have been considered a ਀渀攀瀀漀琀椀猀琀 愀渀搀 瀀漀眀攀爀ⴀ洀愀搀⸀ 䤀渀猀琀攀愀搀 䤀 最愀椀渀攀搀 愀渀 愀氀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 愀氀氀 瀀漀猀椀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀 瀀漀眀攀爀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀椀猀⸀ 圀栀攀琀栀攀爀ഊit be seneschal, autocrat, head cook, baron or Crown. My apologies ਀昀漀爀 琀栀攀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 氀漀渀最 琀椀爀愀搀攀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䬀椀爀椀ഊ ਀夀攀爀猀Ⰰഊ[Count] Gunthar ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀  㘀  ㄀㨀 ㌀㨀㌀㌀ ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: Stefan li Rous ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䌀爀漀眀渀 愀琀琀攀渀搀愀渀挀攀 愀琀 猀漀洀攀⼀愀氀氀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀ഊTo: SCA-Cooks maillist SCA-Cooks ਀ഊSerena da Riva commented about a mis-understanding of what a (her?) ਀䌀爀漀眀渀 猀攀攀洀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 猀愀礀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 洀甀猀琀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 搀椀猀愀最爀攀攀 眀椀琀栀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 栀攀爀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀ഊAt no point did His Higness (now Majesty) say that there could not be ਀爀愀瀀椀攀爀 愀琀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀 栀攀 眀愀猀 愀琀琀攀渀搀椀渀最⸀ 䠀攀 眀愀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 愀琀琀攀洀瀀琀椀渀最 琀漀ഊcommunicate that neither he nor his Lady had any interest in Rapier ਀愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀 戀攀 瀀爀漀洀漀琀椀渀最 刀愀瀀椀攀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀 漀昀 猀瀀漀渀猀漀爀椀渀最ഊa Champions Battle or watching Rapier at events. ਀ഊAnd while I believe that we would all prefer to have Crowns that are ਀瀀愀猀猀椀漀渀愀琀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 漀甀爀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀 愀爀攀愀 漀昀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀 ⴀ 甀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀 琀栀愀琀ഊdoes not always happen. ਀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀 昀漀爀 愀 猀椀渀最氀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 挀愀渀✀琀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀⸀ 䴀愀渀礀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀眀ഊso crowded with activities that multiple things are happening at the ਀猀愀洀攀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䄀渀搀 椀琀 椀猀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 昀漀爀 愀 䌀爀漀眀渀 琀漀 戀攀 愀琀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 琀眀漀ഊplaces at once. Our barony is currently struggling with trying to ਀猀椀洀瀀氀椀昀礀 漀甀爀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 戀礀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀氀 漀昀 漀甀爀 挀栀愀洀瀀椀漀渀猀 挀漀洀瀀攀琀椀琀椀漀渀猀 愀琀ഊthe same event, for instance. ਀ഊIn many kingdoms there are often several events every weekend. Even ਀椀昀 琀栀攀 䬀椀渀最 愀渀搀 儀甀攀攀渀 猀瀀氀椀琀 甀瀀 愀渀搀 攀愀挀栀 最漀攀猀 琀漀 愀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰഊthey still can't even attend every event. ਀ഊ==== ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 欀渀漀眀渀 洀愀渀礀 愀 䌀爀漀眀渀 眀椀琀栀 愀 䰀愀琀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀ഊEuropean Persona who would not in any way attend the ME Hafla, ਀瀀爀攀昀攀爀爀椀渀最 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 琀漀 愀琀琀攀渀搀 琀栀攀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀愀渀 刀攀瘀攀氀⸀ഊ==== ਀ഊYes, for a single event choices have to be made. However, for the ਀刀漀礀愀氀琀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 愀戀漀瘀攀 焀甀漀琀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀愀猀渀✀琀 琀栀攀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 漀昀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 洀椀猀猀ഊone activity because of two going on at the same time at one event. ਀ഊIt was a conscious choice to avoid such an activity through out a six ਀洀漀渀琀栀 爀攀椀最渀⸀ 吀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 攀瘀攀渀 漀渀攀 爀愀瀀椀攀爀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀礀 眀栀椀氀攀 最漀椀渀最ഊto approximately 20+ events. Unfortunately, as a couple in the ਀猀瀀漀琀氀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 愀瘀漀椀搀椀渀最 愀渀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀礀 椀猀 渀漀琀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 渀漀琀 瀀爀漀洀漀琀椀渀最 椀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀ഊin fact, denigrating that activity and saying that a particular ਀愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀礀 椀猀 渀漀琀 眀漀爀琀栀 攀瘀攀渀 愀 昀攀眀 栀漀甀爀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀椀爀 琀椀洀攀⸀ ∀匀瀀漀渀猀漀爀椀渀最∀ 愀渀ഊevent doesn't require the Crown to be running it. Simply showing up. ਀ഊNothing says the Royalty is required to participate in all ਀愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀⸀ 䤀昀 䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 爀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 漀渀氀礀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀搀 琀漀 愀琀琀攀渀搀 愀ഊfew events, Coronation, Crown Tournament to pick their successors and ਀愀 昀攀眀 漀琀栀攀爀猀⸀ 䄀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 栀攀愀爀搀 漀昀 最漀 眀愀礀 戀攀礀漀渀搀 琀栀椀猀⸀ 䄀渀搀 椀琀 椀猀渀✀琀ഊeasy. I've got a Florilegium file with examples. :-) ਀ഊHowever, I think the good Crowns will try to set aside some of their ਀瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 愀渀搀 攀渀挀漀甀爀愀最攀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀椀爀ഊsubjects. ਀ഊPerhaps this Crown is doing things to support the Rapier community ਀戀攀栀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀挀攀渀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 栀愀渀搀氀椀渀最 椀琀 最椀瘀攀猀 愀 戀愀搀ഊimpression and provides fodder for those who argue that picking your ਀漀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀✀猀 氀攀愀搀攀爀猀 戀礀 眀栀漀 挀愀渀 栀椀琀 琀栀攀 栀愀爀搀攀猀琀 漀爀 椀最渀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 戀氀漀眀猀ഊthe least obviously, is a poor way to select for leadership ability. ਀ഊ===== ਀䤀琀 椀猀 椀渀搀攀攀搀ഊunfortunate when the Crown does not pass on these preferences. If, in ਀琀栀椀猀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 漀爀最愀渀椀稀攀爀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䠀愀昀氀愀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 愀渀搀 洀愀欀攀ഊextra efforts to comfort the Crown, and they never show up - there is ਀洀甀挀栀 攀洀戀愀爀愀猀猀洀攀渀琀 愀渀搀 栀愀爀搀 昀攀攀氀椀渀最猀⸀ഊ===== ਀ഊUnless the organizers of the Hafla had some communication from the ਀䌀爀漀眀渀 漀爀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀✀猀 欀攀攀瀀攀爀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 漀渀ഊattending the Hafla, then they shouldn't make the assumption that the ਀䌀爀漀眀渀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀ 䄀渀搀 攀瘀攀渀 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 最漀琀 眀漀爀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀ഊattending, they need to keep in mind that the Crown's schedule does ਀挀栀愀渀最攀⸀ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 渀攀攀搀猀 琀漀 瀀愀猀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀椀爀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀ഊpublicly. This can be handled by the entourage or by the organizer, ਀漀爀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀 猀琀攀眀愀爀搀Ⰰ 挀漀洀洀甀渀椀挀愀琀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀漀甀爀愀最攀⸀ഊ ਀匀琀攀昀愀渀ഊ-------- ਀吀䠀䰀漀爀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀 氀椀 刀漀甀猀    䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 䈀爀礀渀 䜀眀氀愀搀    䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 漀昀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀ഊ Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀  䄀瀀爀 ㈀  㘀 ㄀㈀㨀 ㌀㨀㄀㜀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Michael Gunter" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 一漀琀 愀琀 愀氀氀 昀漀漀搀 爀攀氀愀琀攀搀 洀攀琀愀 椀猀猀甀攀ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀ഊWell, this whole discussion has been amusing and a bit academic. ਀吀栀攀 匀漀挀椀攀琀礀 椀猀 樀甀猀琀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 愀 猀漀挀椀攀琀礀⸀ 䄀渀礀 猀漀挀椀漀氀漀最椀猀琀 眀椀氀氀 琀攀氀氀 礀漀甀 琀栀愀琀ഊgroup dynamics tend to follow certain trends and it doesn't matter ਀椀昀 椀琀 椀猀 最漀瘀攀爀渀洀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 昀愀洀椀氀椀攀猀Ⰰ 瘀椀氀氀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 眀攀椀爀搀 爀攀攀渀愀挀琀洀攀渀琀 最爀漀甀瀀猀ഊor biker gangs. ਀ഊAny position of leadership is a position of power, no matter how ਀渀攀戀甀氀漀甀猀 琀栀愀琀 瀀漀眀攀爀 椀猀⸀ 䘀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 倀爀攀猀椀搀攀渀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 唀匀 琀漀 琀栀攀ഊdungeon master, some are very good, some abuse it and many ਀眀椀氀氀 最愀椀渀 琀栀愀琀 瀀漀眀攀爀 愀琀 愀氀氀 挀漀猀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 匀漀 眀栀愀琀✀猀 眀爀漀渀最 眀椀琀栀 爀攀焀甀椀爀椀渀最 匀䌀䄀 挀爀漀眀渀猀 琀漀 戀攀 挀栀愀爀洀椀渀最 愀渀搀 最爀愀挀椀漀甀猀㼀ഊ> They're 'paid' with praise, attention, gifts, crown-bunnies, etc. ਀ഊThere are several requirements to be Crown, often these are ਀氀漀漀瀀栀漀氀攀搀 愀渀搀 漀瘀攀爀氀漀漀欀攀搀 戀礀 挀漀渀琀攀渀搀攀爀猀⸀ 䤀昀 猀漀氀椀搀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀洀攀渀琀猀ഊare overlooked, the rather esoteric graces can be quickly forgotten. ਀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 渀漀 挀栀攀挀欀猀 愀渀搀 戀愀氀愀渀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 最漀漀搀 戀攀栀愀瘀椀漀甀爀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 漀甀爀ഊSociety other than your reputation. For many people reputation ਀椀猀 猀攀挀漀渀搀愀爀礀 琀漀 爀愀渀欀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 䠀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ ⨀攀瘀攀爀礀⨀ 挀爀漀眀渀 眀愀猀 最漀漀搀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 攀渀漀甀最栀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 昀漀爀 攀渀漀甀最栀ഊ> time...at least for a while. Again, I don't think anybody is promoting the ਀㸀 椀搀攀愀 漀昀 挀爀甀攀氀Ⰰ 栀愀琀攀昀甀氀Ⰰ 爀甀搀攀Ⰰ 愀戀甀猀椀瘀攀 挀爀漀眀渀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀⸀  吀栀愀琀✀猀 愀 戀愀搀ഊ> marketing strategy. It's a sanitized view of Medieval life, so why ਀㸀 渀漀琀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀愀渀椀琀椀稀攀搀 昀漀爀洀 漀昀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 欀椀渀最猀㼀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 䤀 戀攀最 琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 瀀漀椀渀琀⸀ 䤀 最甀攀猀猀 䤀 挀愀渀 愀最爀攀攀 眀椀琀栀ഊyou that "every" crown was good enough for the people simply ਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 栀攀 栀愀搀 愀渀 愀爀洀礀 琀栀愀琀 洀愀搀攀 猀甀爀攀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 氀椀欀攀搀 栀椀洀⸀ 䄀渀搀ഊthe peasants of the time, like the general public now, really ਀搀椀搀渀✀琀 挀愀爀攀 漀渀攀 眀栀椀琀 眀栀漀 眀愀猀 䬀椀渀最 愀猀 氀漀渀最 愀猀 栀攀 氀攀昀琀 琀栀攀洀 愀氀漀渀攀ഊto live their own lives. ਀ഊThere are several Royal Peers subscribed, myself being one of them ਀猀漀 洀愀礀戀攀 眀攀 挀愀渀 最椀瘀攀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 瀀攀爀猀瀀攀挀琀椀瘀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 猀椀琀琀椀渀最 椀渀ഊthe Big Chair is all about. ਀ഊThe number one thing to remember is that nobody is a villan in their ਀漀眀渀 洀椀渀搀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 戀攀挀漀洀攀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 愀氀氀 漀昀 愀 猀甀搀搀攀渀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 琀漀ഊdo the stuff you have always dreamed of the King doing in the SCA. ਀䄀渀搀 漀昀琀攀渀 礀漀甀 琀栀椀渀欀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 搀漀椀渀最 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 樀漀戀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀⸀ 䘀漀爀 猀漀洀攀ഊpeople all they care about is winning the list and getting the title ਀愀渀搀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 戀漀眀 愀渀搀 猀挀爀愀瀀攀 琀漀 礀漀甀⸀ 唀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀 礀漀甀 愀氀猀漀ഊhave to run the State, make sure you don't piss people off, attend ਀琀攀搀椀漀甀猀 洀攀攀琀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 戀攀 渀椀挀攀 琀漀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 氀椀欀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 䈀䔀ഊthe head of state. Many of the people who only want the title have ਀愀 栀愀爀搀 琀椀洀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀椀猀⸀ 䘀甀渀渀礀Ⰰ 漀昀琀攀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀栀椀渀最 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀搀 眀椀琀栀ഊreal life power grabbers too. For every bad SCA Crown I can point ਀琀漀 愀 䌀愀氀椀最甀氀愀Ⰰ 一攀爀漀Ⰰ 䤀瘀愀渀Ⰰ 一椀砀漀渀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 瀀漀眀攀爀 漀昀 匀䌀䄀 䌀爀漀眀渀猀 椀猀 琀爀甀攀 瀀漀眀攀爀Ⰰ 椀琀 洀愀礀 漀渀氀礀 攀砀椀猀琀 椀渀 漀甀爀ഊlittle group but it is nonetheless power. Why do people bow and ਀猀挀爀愀瀀攀 琀漀 洀攀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 眀漀渀 愀 琀漀甀爀渀愀洀攀渀琀 㔀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀㼀 圀栀礀 搀漀ഊguys who are total nerd losers in real life have ladies wanting to ਀栀愀瘀攀 猀攀砀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀洀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀栀椀渀礀 栀愀琀㼀 圀攀 挀栀愀渀最攀ഊpolicy and affect the lives of thousands of people with our actions. ਀圀椀琀栀 愀渀礀 瀀漀眀攀爀 挀漀洀攀猀 琀栀攀 漀瀀瀀漀爀琀甀渀椀琀礀 琀漀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 甀猀攀 椀琀 漀爀 愀戀甀猀攀ഊit. Fire is a very good thing. It heats our huts and cooks food and ਀挀漀渀瘀攀爀琀猀 椀爀漀渀 琀漀 猀琀攀攀氀⸀ 䤀琀 愀氀猀漀 戀甀爀渀猀Ⰰ 栀甀爀琀猀Ⰰ 欀椀氀氀猀 愀渀搀 搀攀猀琀爀漀礀猀⸀ 䰀椀欀攀ഊpower, it is how it is used. And you can't tell fire to "be nice" you ਀栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 椀琀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀猀 琀爀甀氀礀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 椀渀 眀栀愀琀 眀攀 搀漀 愀渀搀ഊwork their tails off to be what everyone wants a King and Queen ਀琀漀 戀攀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀猀 眀愀渀琀 猀琀甀昀昀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀愀戀攀猀 愀渀搀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀ഊopportunity to give stuff to their buddies and to hell with those ਀瀀愀渀猀礀 爀愀瀀椀攀爀 昀椀最栀琀攀爀猀 漀爀 愀爀琀椀猀愀渀猀 漀爀 愀爀挀栀攀爀猀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 眀攀 搀漀渀✀琀 瀀氀愀礀ഊtheir game. ਀ഊGuess what? That happens with elected leaders, real world Kings ਀愀渀搀 䌀䔀伀猀⸀ഊ ਀圀攀 挀愀渀渀漀琀 昀漀爀挀攀 最漀漀搀 戀攀栀愀瘀椀漀爀 漀渀 漀甀爀 䌀爀漀眀渀猀Ⰰ 眀攀 挀愀渀 漀渀氀礀ഊencourage it and pray something sticks. Being Crown is a major ਀瀀愀椀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 戀甀琀琀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ 夀漀甀 愀爀攀 漀渀 挀愀氀氀 ㈀㐀⼀㜀⸀ 䔀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 礀漀甀 搀漀ഊis commented upon, shoot people know when you go to the ਀戀愀琀栀爀漀漀洀⸀ 䔀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀猀 礀漀甀 琀漀 猀漀氀瘀攀 琀栀攀椀爀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 最攀琀ഊblamed if it rains! You have to arrange courts, attend every meeting, ਀栀愀渀搀氀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀 搀攀挀椀猀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 琀爀礀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 最漀漀搀 搀漀椀渀最ഊit. Some do it better than others and if it looks like they had an ਀攀愀猀礀 爀攀椀最渀 椀琀 漀渀氀礀 洀攀愀渀猀 琀栀攀礀 欀攀瀀琀 琀栀攀 渀愀猀琀礀 猀琀甀昀昀 昀爀漀洀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 漀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀䄀猀 昀愀爀 愀猀 愀氀琀攀爀渀愀琀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 吀漀甀爀渀愀洀攀渀琀猀 最漀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀⸀ഊAn Tir tried it once, it was determined a lot of fun and very interesting ਀愀渀搀 渀攀瘀攀爀 搀漀 椀琀 愀最愀椀渀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 倀爀椀渀挀椀瀀愀氀椀琀礀 氀椀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀ഊearlier. And there may have been others. I know groups like Amptgard ਀栀愀瘀攀 圀愀爀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 最愀琀栀攀爀 眀愀爀戀愀渀搀猀 琀漀 昀椀最栀琀 愀渀搀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀ഊtheir leaders have been any different from any other system. ਀ഊPersonally I look at Crown Tournament as a series of battles, my personal ਀猀欀椀氀氀 椀猀 琀栀攀 ∀愀爀洀礀∀ 䤀 眀愀猀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 戀甀椀氀搀⸀ 吀栀攀 琀漀甀爀渀愀洀攀渀琀 椀猀 愀 猀挀愀氀攀搀 搀漀眀渀ഊ"War of Roses" in which armies are destroyed and assimilated until it's ਀搀漀眀渀 琀漀 琀眀漀 挀漀洀洀愀渀搀攀爀猀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 挀氀椀洀戀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀瀀⸀ഊIn war, you are never quite sure who's head will have the circlet and ਀眀栀漀✀猀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 戀氀漀挀欀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 䐀漀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 攀洀戀愀爀爀愀猀猀 琀栀攀 漀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 漀甀琀Ⰰ 搀攀琀攀爀洀椀渀攀搀 戀礀ഊ> some committee or the BoD. You want to avoid bad behavior? Identify it ਀㸀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀猀攀焀甀攀渀挀攀猀⸀  一攀眀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀 挀漀洀攀猀 甀瀀㼀   ഊ> Add it to the consequences explanation. ਀ഊOh, Lordy! I can just imagine the squirrel cage that would be. The ਀瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 漀昀琀攀渀 栀愀瘀攀 ∀洀漀爀愀氀猀∀ 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀ഊbut all too often there are 50 different sides to the argument. The ਀甀最氀椀攀猀琀 䌀爀漀眀渀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 攀瘀攀爀 猀攀攀渀 眀愀猀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀 昀椀最栀琀攀爀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊFinal had to win at all costs, "to save the kingdom from the other". ਀ഊHonor and reputation are the only coins that really matter within the ਀匀漀挀椀攀琀礀⸀ 夀漀甀 愀渀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 爀愀渀欀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀氀搀Ⰰ 栀愀瘀攀 攀瘀攀爀礀 愀眀愀爀搀 愀渀搀ഊstill get no respect from anyone if your behavior was that bad. There ਀栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 搀甀欀攀猀 最椀瘀攀渀 氀椀昀攀琀椀洀攀 戀愀渀椀猀栀洀攀渀琀猀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀ഊtheir actions. Getting respect is the only thing that really matters ਀愀渀搀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 漀渀氀礀 挀漀洀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 礀漀甀爀 戀攀栀愀瘀椀漀爀⸀ഊ ਀倀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 挀氀愀甀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 搀攀挀椀搀攀 椀昀 愀 䌀爀漀眀渀ഊwho steps down be given Royal rank. But that could be a lot of ਀昀甀渀 琀漀 搀漀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 夀漀甀 猀攀攀洀 挀漀渀瘀椀渀挀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀爀 昀攀氀氀漀眀 匀䌀䄀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 眀椀氀氀 戀愀挀欀ⴀ猀琀愀戀Ⰰ 氀椀攀Ⰰ 挀栀攀愀琀ഊ> & steal in order to gain victory at any price. I'm just not willing to ਀㸀 愀挀挀攀瀀琀 琀栀愀琀⸀ഊ ਀唀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀Ⰰ 椀琀 搀漀攀猀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀⸀ 一漀琀 愀猀 漀昀琀攀渀 愀猀 椀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 戀攀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀ഊof the fact that we talk about that more than the good ones. But, ਀礀攀愀栀Ⰰ 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀椀氀氀 氀椀攀Ⰰ 挀栀攀愀琀 愀渀搀 洀愀渀椀瀀甀氀愀琀攀 琀漀 最愀椀渀 攀瘀攀渀 漀甀爀 瀀爀攀琀攀渀搀ഊpower. A hell of a lot more actually believe in this game we play and ਀洀愀欀攀 椀琀 眀漀爀琀栀 戀攀椀渀最 栀攀爀攀 昀漀爀⸀ 䤀琀✀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 匀漀挀椀攀琀礀 栀愀猀ഊgrown and thrived for 40 years! ਀ഊ> Duriel ਀ഊGunthar ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䌀栀爀椀猀 娀愀欀攀猀 㰀搀漀渀琀椀瘀愀爀 愀琀 最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊDate: November 10, 2007 10:22:43 PM CST ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 漀昀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 ⴀ 匀䌀䄀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀⸀∀ 㰀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Ansteorra] Ducal Perogative ਀ഊAt 11:15 AM 11/10/2007, Robin wrote: ਀㸀 ∀爀漀戀攀爀琀 猀攀最爀攀猀琀∀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>> At any rate, I am continually amazed that a system of governance that ਀㸀㸀 琀栀攀漀爀攀琀椀挀愀氀氀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀猀琀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 洀攀琀栀漀搀猀 昀漀爀 挀栀漀漀猀椀渀最ഊ>> leaders seems to usually produce high quality administration, not ਀㸀㸀 漀渀氀礀 昀爀漀洀 漀甀爀 洀漀渀愀爀挀栀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀氀猀漀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀昀昀椀挀攀爀猀 琀栀攀礀 愀瀀瀀漀椀渀琀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 吀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 椀猀 愀 瘀漀氀甀渀琀攀攀爀 漀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀渀挀椀瀀氀攀猀 漀昀 最漀瘀攀爀渀洀攀渀琀 愀爀攀ഊ> different. The essential control over the government is not the vote, but ਀㸀 琀栀攀 昀愀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 挀愀渀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 眀愀氀欀 愀眀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀倀爀攀挀椀猀攀氀礀⸀ 䔀渀最爀愀瘀攀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀猀 漀昀 䌀愀椀搀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀ഊwords: "You rule because they believe." That's a good thing for *any* ਀䌀爀漀眀渀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 椀渀 洀椀渀搀⸀ഊ ਀          ⴀ吀椀瘀愀爀 䴀漀漀渀搀爀愀最漀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:57:15 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䔀氀愀椀渀攀 䬀漀漀最氀攀爀∀ 㰀欀椀爀椀搀漀渀漀 愀琀 最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] kitchen tips ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀嬀䤀昀 匀䌀䄀 刀漀礀愀氀琀礀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 琀爀攀愀琀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 眀椀琀栀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 一伀吀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 琀漀 搀漀 猀漀⸀ ⴀ匀琀攀昀愀渀崀ഊ ਀䄀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀椀渀最猀 栀攀爀攀⸀⸀⸀眀攀✀瘀攀 栀愀搀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 䄀琀氀愀渀琀椀愀渀 洀漀渀愀爀挀栀猀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀ഊrefused to eat our feasts...and one who specified that he didn't eat much of ਀愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 栀漀琀搀漀最猀Ⰰ 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 䠀漀䠀漀✀猀⸀  吀栀攀 戀椀最最攀猀琀 椀渀猀甀氀琀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀ഊone who came into the kitchen long enough to inform us (at his decoronation) ਀琀栀愀琀 栀攀 眀愀猀 栀愀渀最椀渀最 愀爀漀甀渀搀 氀漀渀最 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 猀攀爀瘀攀 䠀椀最栀 吀愀戀氀攀 ⠀愀 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀 栀攀爀攀ഊin Atlantia), but that he'd be leaving as soon as the serving was done ਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 栀攀 爀攀昀甀猀攀搀 琀漀 攀愀琀 昀攀愀猀琀猀℀  吀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 栀攀愀搀 挀漀漀欀 ⠀愀 最漀漀搀 昀爀椀攀渀搀 眀栀漀ഊrarely loses her temper) threw, not a wobbly, but her tennis shoe! The only ਀爀攀愀猀漀渀 栀攀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 最攀琀 栀椀琀 眀愀猀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 栀攀 栀愀搀 挀氀漀猀攀搀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀 戀攀栀椀渀搀 栀椀洀ഊseconds before the shoe hit the door! ਀ഊKiri ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ匀䌀䄀ⴀ刀漀礀愀氀琀礀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ㄀㘀 漀昀 ㄀㘀ऀऀഊ ਀ഊ ਀ഊ ਊ