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Medieval pilgrimages. References.

 

NOTE: See also the files: relics-msg, Relics-fr-all-art, casting-msg, saints-msg, crusades-msg, pilgrm-badges-msg, indulgences-msg.

 

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:48:04 EDT

From: WOLFMOMSCA at aol.com

Subject: Re: SC - Food for Pilgrimage

 

I don't know if this volume would contain much in the way of actual food

descriptions, but it is a new translation of the Iter Sancti Jacobi and the

Liber Sancti Jacobi.  It is titled The Pilgrim's Guide to Santiago de

Compostella, published by Italica Press and written by William Melczer.  The

ISBN is 0-934977-25-9.

 

Wolfmother

 

 

From: "Karyn Schmidt" <karyn at rconnect.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Pilgrimage Badge  Pictures?

Date: 12 Sep 1998 22:30:09 GMT

 

Fvigil <fvigil at aol.com> wrote in article

> Can anyone recommend some sources showing a variety of pilgrimage badges?

 

You want some steenking badges....

 

F.E. Halliday.  Chaucer and his world.  NY, Viking, 1968, page 112, has two

-- a bell and a pair of open hands.

 

Derek Brewer.  Chaucer and his World.  NY, Dodd, Mead, 1978, page 202 has

three -- a head (of Becket) a head contained in a ring, and something like

a buckle, and page 203 shows one with two figures in a frame.

 

Alan Kendall.  Medieval Pilgrims. (Putnam Documentary History Series)  NY,

G.P.Putnam's Sons, 1970, page 113 has a very clear line drawing showing

Becket's head in a round frame.  The frontispiece shows a painting of a

pilgrim wearing a shell on his hat. I recommend this book as an

introduction to the phenomenon of pilgrimage.  It's loaded with pictures.

 

There's a start for you.

Kudrun ?e Pilegrim

 

 

Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:57:12 -0500

From: Margritte <margritt at mindspring.com>

To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu

Subject: RE: looking for info on woodcuts

 

I have to admit that when I did my blocks, I used linoleum rather than

wood. I was trying to replicate the prints that were often made at or near

pilgrims' shrines, especially in the later part of the Middle Ages. Small

pieces of paper with an imprint of the local saint were sold as souvenirs.

 

-Margritte

 

 

Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:25:23 -0700

From: "David Dendy" <ddendy at silk.net>

Subject: SC - Drinking Water

 

I have observed the discussion about whether people in the middle ages drank

water, but I haven't followed it very closely, as the absurdity of

suggesting otherwise is obvious to anyone who has actually read much in the

documents of the time. However, I had the discussion in mind when I was

re-reading a favourite book, entitited FRIAR FELIX AT LARGE by H.F.M.

Prescott, which is an description of the pilgrimages to Jesusalem in 1480

and 1483 by a German-Swiss friar. This is based on Friar Felix's own lengthy

account of his travels.

 

It is obvious from what Friar Felix has to say that water is the usual drink

of the ordinary people who made up the mass of pilgrims, though the noble

and rich may have drunk mostly wine (thinned with water, however -- the

pilgrim manuals warn west Europeans not to drink the strong wines of Cyprus

straight: "drunk neat it will burn up the entrails, therefore dilute it with

anything up to four quarts of water." [p. 45]). The pilgrim's bottle (which

he carried along with his scrip) normally contained water for drinking.

Wine, particularly in Palestine which was under Saracen control at that

time, was carried separately, usually well-hidden in the bottom of bags or

boxes, to avoid the disapproval of the Muslims, who were likely to pour it

on the ground if they saw it.

 

Friar Felix frequently comments on the flavour of various streams and wells

they stopped at on their way. Some of them he spoke of highly. The water of

the Jordan River, however, had little to recommend it except the religious

connections: "It was not very pleasant to drink, being warm, and as muddy as

a swamp." [p. 157]

 

The importance of water for drinking may be seen in what happened, on the

voyage to the Holy Land, when contrary winds kept the ship out of port.

"Water ran short; the sailors now could sell any that was not foul, 'albeit

it was lukewarm, whitish, and discoloured,' at a higher price than wine.

Soon 'even putrid stinking water was precious and the captain and all the

pilots were scared that we should run out even of . . . that.' No water at

all could be spared for the beasts; and Felix watched them with pity as they

licked the dew from the ship's timbers." [p. 58-59]

 

If we want to know the proportions used by the relatively well-off pilgrim,

we might look at the instructions in manuals for pilgrims proivisioning

themselves at Venice before the voyage: they should buy three barrels, two

for wine and one for water. "The best water for keeping is to drawn at St.

Nicholas, and when that is used fill the barrel again at any port of call."

[p. 45] (Keep this in mind -- it suggest that the wine was supposed to last

the entire voyage, while the water would be replenished repeatedly.)

 

Incidentally, water was the requisite drink during fasts, particularly the

more solemn ones such as Good Friday, when bread and water were enjoined (if

you were well enough off, though, no great hardship ensued -- the Duc de

Berri devotedly stuck to bread and water on fast days, but it was

gingerbread and spiced water!)

 

Yours aquatically,

Francesco Sirene

David Dendy / ddendy at silk.net

partner in Francesco Sirene, Spicer / sirene at silk.net

Visit our Website at http://www.silk.net/sirene/

 

 

From: noramunro at aol.comclutter (Alianora Munro)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Date: 19 Feb 2001 05:35:01 GMT

 

In article <3A90A46E.B3A3A7F at mediaone.net>, Tetsubo <tetsubo at mediaone.net>

writes:

>My girlfriend posed a question that I have not be able to answer. She

>has read that scallop shells were carried by pilgrims on their way to

>shrines. She would like to know why the scallop shell is associated with

>pilgrimmages. Any idea why? My thanks.

 

The scallop shell is specifically associated with the pilgrimage to Santiago de

Compostela (St James the Greater, in NW Spain), for the simple reason that the

site is near the seashore, and the scallop shells wash up on the beach, and

make a convenient token as sign that one has been there.  Palms from Jerusalem

were used in a similar way; indeed nearly every shrine had its particular

marker.  Sometimes these were cast in lead or potmetal and available for sale

near the shrine.   As one who has made the pilgrimage to St Andrews, I wear a

saltire badge on my hood.

 

At some point it became customary to wear pilgrimage badges *on the way to* the

shrine as well as on the way home, as a sign that one was undertaking the

worthy journey, and possibly also to discourage highwaymen (the area around

Santiago was notorious for the Basque bandits that attacked travellers).

Sometimes the badges were discarded on the way home (or at home) as a

thank-offering to the saint for a safe trip.

 

Quite a bit has been written on the Camino de Santiago recently (including

something by Shirley Maclaine -- argh), but if you can track it down, there is

a surviving mediaeval "tourist guide" to the journey by Aimery Picaud, who

describes the sights along a couple of possible routes from Paris to Santiago,

and is wonderful reading.

 

Regards,

Alianora Munro, Bright Hills, Atlantia

 

 

From: "Brian L. Rygg/Brendan Pilgrim" <rygbee at hotmail.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Scallops and Pilgrims

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:23:23 -0700

 

Tetsubo wrote:

>   My girlfriend posed a question that I have not be able to answer. She

> has read that scallop shells were carried by pilgrims on their way to

> shrines. She would like to know why the scallop shell is associated with

> pilgrimmages. Any idea why? My thanks.

 

     The scallop shell was originally a symbol of having  _completed_ a

pilgrimage -- specifically, it was a souvenir of the pilgrimage to Santiago

(Saint James) de Compostello, in Spain, one of the most famous/popular

Medieval pilgrimages.  (Even today, it's a popular religious/historic

pilgrimage.)  [James the Apostle purportedly travelled to Spain after the

crucifixion. ]

 

     *Why*  the scallop shell was a symbol of that particular pilgrimage, I

don't know.  I've read _one_ source claiming that lepers who trekked there

in the Middle Ages ate seafood from the Compostello bay and were cured.  But

it certainly wasn't only the sick who made that trip.

 

     Another story has it that James was beheaded by Herod, and his

followers took his  *remains*  to Spain.  Saint James saved a bridegroom

whose horse ended up in the ocean off the coast, and both horse and rider

came out covered with scallops.

 

     Perhaps it was just a matter of "See, I went all that way -- I've got a

shell that's not from around here to prove it."  Similarly, palm leaves were

a souvenir of a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, which is why a pilgrim might also

be called a palmer.

 

     According to a discussion on the Conchologists of America List (I am

*not*  making that up), the shell -- or a similar one -- became a symbol of

a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, too.  To add to the confusion, St. James was

apparently a Patron Saint of the Crusades, and Santiago de Compostello was a

de rigeur stop on the way to the Crusades . . . and/or an increasingly

popular pilgrimage destination during the Crusades when *non*-Crusaders

couldn't _get_ to Jerusalem.

 

     I hadn't before heard of the pilgrim badge being worn until the trip

back, but I guess I can see it as a way of saying, "Yes, I know I'm a

stranger, but I'm not in your lands for any foul purpose.  See?  I'm on a

pilgrimage."

 

     At any rate, the scallop shell eventually were associated with

pilgrimages and pilgrims in general, and the escallop became a charge in

heraldry as far back as the time of Henry III of England.

 

     As a badge or default position in heraldry, by-the-by, the scallop

shell is depicted with the hinge  *up*.   Modern tastes (whether influenced

by or exemplified by the Shell Oil symbol, I don't know which) tend to put

the hinge down.  (Taken as a whole, SCA devices show their modern creation

in that regard -- they seem to have their escallops inverted more often than

not.)

 

     In a related note, now that Prince William of England has officially

taken up his arms as Heir to the Prince of Wales (who in turn is heir to the

throne), the shield of course has a "label" -- the charge that looks a

little like a capital E turned on its side so that the "prongs" are pointed

down, traditionally used as a cadency mark for the first son.  (The lion &

unicorn supporters, and the lion on the crown crest, also have that label,

looking rather like a collar.)  What's different in this case is that the

white label, each of the four times it appears on the full achievement of

arms, is charged with a red escallop on the center prong.  It's a tribute to

his mother, Diana; the red shells have apparently been featured on the

Spencer arms since the 16th century.

 

Brendan Pilgrim

http://come.to/your.pilgrim

 

 

From: noramunro at aol.comclutter (Alianora Munro)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Date: 19 Feb 2001 15:52:14 GMT

Subject: Re: Scallops and Pilgrims

 

bronwynmgn at aol.comnospam (Bronwynmgn) writes:

>noramunro at aol.comclutter (Alianora Munro) writes:

>>As one who has made the pilgrimage to St Andrews, I wear a

>>saltire badge on my hood.

>

>Yes, I have a scallop shell for Compostela - a real one found and drilled by

>a friend of mine - as well as badges for St. Werburga and St Thomas of

>Canterbury.

 

Heh, that wasn't quite my meaning -- which I admit wasn't precisely

transparent.  My modern self made the trip to St Andrews (for my PhD studies),

where I lived just across the street from the cathedral ruins for three years.

During a brief exhibition of pilgrimage badges at the local museum I was able

to buy a reproduction of a 14th-C badge, and so I wear it on my hood at events.

 

It's a particular quirk of mine that Alianora the mediaeval lady doesn't wear

pilgrimage badges for places the 20th/21st-C person hasn't visited, too.

Hence, no scallop shell (though I probably have dozens collected from beaches

elsewhere), no veronica (Rome), no Jerusalem cross, and so on. Visiting

pilgrimage sites (or making plans to) is one of my ways of making contact with

the real Middle Ages and the spirituality which was one of the hallmarks of

European culture during that time, and which is so profoundly different from

modern beliefs.  One of the things I'm saving up for *is* a trip to Santiago

down the of the old pilgrimage roads.

 

Incidentally, the French name for scallops is still "coquilles Saint-Jacques"

-- St James' cockles. :-)

 

>There is one more I really want, but I have to look it up again -

>it's one of the Marion shrines, I believe in Norfolk - the one where a

>reconstruction (supposedly) of Mary's home was built.

 

Sounds like one of the Loreto shrines; there was one in Scotland, in

Midlothian, and several on the continent, as well.

 

Alianora Munro, Bright Hills, Atlantia

 

 

From: Robin Carroll-Mann <rcmann4 at earthlink.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Scallops and Pilgrims

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:15:12 GMT

 

Bronwynmgn wrote:

> it's one of the Marion shrines, I believe in Norfolk - the one where a

> reconstruction (supposedly) of Mary's home was built.

>

> Brangwayna Morgan

 

Might that be Walsingham?  They have a website at:

http://www.walsingham.org.uk/

--

Lady Brighid ni Chiarain (mka Robin Carroll-Mann)

Barony of Settmour Swamp, East

 

 

From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Scallops and Pilgrims

Date: 20 Feb 2001 22:11:24 GMT

Organization: Ripco Internet, Chicago

 

Brian L. Rygg/Brendan Pilgrim <rygbee AT montana DOT Sea Oh! Em> wrote:

>     According to a discussion on the Conchologists of America List (I am

>*not*  making that up), the shell -- or a similar one -- became a symbol of

>a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, too.  To add to the confusion, St. James was

>apparently a Patron Saint of the Crusades, and Santiago de Compostello was a

>de rigeur stop on the way to the Crusades . . . and/or an increasingly

>popular pilgrimage destination during the Crusades when *non*-Crusaders

>couldn't _get_ to Jerusalem.

 

Santiago became a patron saint of Crusaders because of the

Reconquista, which sometimes got the same attention as the at-

tempt to sustain a Christian hold on the Holy Land. The

Reconquista was seen, to some extent, as a crusade that was

nearby (for people in England and France) and lucrative (PoW

ransoms, plunder, and so on).

 

Pedro (Never been up to Santiago de Compostella, but I have been

to Koeln (allegedly has relics of the Three Wise Men) and

Jerusalem-palm and Jerusalem cross aside, what else could I

wear?)

--

clevin at rci.ripco.com

Craig Levin

 

 

Subject: ANST - Period Travel Guides

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:40:42 -0400

From: fitzmorgan at cs.com

To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org

 

> I assume that people wrote "travel guides" during the Middle Ages and

> Renaissance. Have any survived? Where can they be found? What do they

> cover?

>

> Jovian

 

Look for "The Pilgrims Guide To Santiago De Compostela"   Written in , I

think, the 12th Century.  and translated by William Melczer.  Italica Press,

INC.  ISBN 0-934977-25-9 for $17.50 if it's still in print.  This is a travel

guide for pilgrims telling of dangers to avoid and sites to see on your

pilgrimage.

 

      It tells which rivers you can safely drink from and which are unsafe.

It says some rude things about the Basque.  And tells short stories about the

many Saints who's shrines you will see on the way.  It's well worth reading.

 

Robert Fitzmorgan

Barony of Northkeep

 

 

Subject: ANST - Re: Period Travel Guides

Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 22:25:53 -0500

From: "Nathan Jones" <bigbeartx at msn.com>

To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org

 

>Scot and Domino Eddy wrote:

>>I assume that people wrote "travel guides" during the Middle Ages and

>>Renaissance. Have any survived? Where can they be found? What do they

>>cover?

 

>There's one written on pilgrimage to Compostella.  15th Century?

 

>- --Perronnelle

 

Perronnelle is right. The book she is probably referring to

is the Codex Calixtinus, written in the 12th century, here

are some notes about it.

 

From the liner notes of "The Way of the Pilgrim: Medieval

Songs of Travel" by The Toronto Consort:

 

"The route to Santiago was well enough travelled to occasion

a popular 'pilgrim's guide,' the earliest copy of which is

found in the cathedral archival library in Santiago in a

manuscript known as the Codex Calixtinus. The codex is a

five-part compilation containing liturgies, accounts of

miracles, a description of how the body of St. James was

"translated" to Compostela, as well as the 'Pilgrim Guide.'

The guide describes towns and shrines which could be visited

en route to Santiago, and includes such practical information

as warnings about unsafe water and extortionist ferrymen, and

recommendations of friendly towns and where good wine is to be

had.  The last chapter is entitled 'How Pilgrims of Saint James

are to be Received." [...] Then follow cautionary tales of

devine punishment visited on people or towns who wwere

inhospitable to pilgrims, including one French villiage in

which a thousand houses were burnt because two pilgrims had

been refused accommodation.  Clearly the attraction of

pilgrimages, by which certain towns and churches profited

so much, depended on the safety and hospitality of the

towns en route."

 

Here are some links that talk about the Codex Calixtinus:

http://personal.readysoft.es/oborras/csantiago/codex.htm

This site seems to contain a wonderfully organized online v

ersion of the codex in modern Spanish.  It does have the

5th book of the codex, which is the travelogue, in English,

but only transcribed up to chapter five.  The English text is

from William Melczer's book _The Pilgrim's Guide to Santiago De

Compostela_.

Here is a link to the English portion.

http://personal.readysoft.es/oborras/csantiago/book5.htm

 

_The Pilgrim's Guide to Santiago De Compostela_ by William Melczer.

The 5th book of the Codex Calixtinus in English.  Haven't seen the

book, but it's available from Amazon for $25.  It's paperback and

coffetable sized.  Looks cool.  (It would make a great birthday gift

for me.  Really.  I wouldn't say no.  June 27th, mark it in your

calendars.  )

 

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/Blair/Courses/MUSL242/f98/santiago.htm

Has a summary of the codex, but not actual text.  Focus is on the

music included in the manuscript.

 

http://www.nd.edu/~medvllib/musnot/calix.html

Not much info here, but has some pics of the actual codex.  Also has

links to facimilies of other period documents.

 

http://www.italicapress.com/index82.html

This one is an advertisement for a CD that has "an interactive

tour of the medieval Pilgrim's Road from France to Santiago de

Compostela in northwestern Spain. It presents a series of medieval

texts relating to the pilgrimage to, shrine of, and cult of St.

James, including the twelfth-century Codex Calixtinus, now in the

library of the cathedral of Santiago, as well as descriptions and

excerpts from travelers in the later Middle Ages and Renaissance.

The Road to Compostela also features a Gazetteer of historic places

along the Camino, a Dictionary of Saints met along the Road, and a

complete Bibliography. It includes a General Map of the Road and 4

interactive detail maps of the route, 12 city maps, 17 plans, and 150

color photos."  I thought it was pretty cool, but no way am I going to

pay for it or endorsing it's purchase.  (However...June 27th....)

 

--Giovanni di Cellini

 

 

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:27:40 EST

From: Devra at aol.com

Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: Sca-cooks Digest, Vol 21, Issue 94

To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

 

> Or maybe the season for going on pilgrimage didn't start till after Lent.

 

Wan that April with his showers sweet

The drought of March hath pierced to the root

And bathed every vein in swich liquor

Of which virtue engendered is the fleur...

Than longen folk to go on pilgrimages...

 

Geoffrey Chaucer, the prologue

 

      It seems as though the nicer weather was an impetus to travel, and  

with Easter as a movable feast, the two must have coincided occasionally.

      

             Devra

 

Devra Langsam

www.poisonpenpress.com

 

 

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:46:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

From: Robin Carroll-Mann <rcmann4 at earthlink.net>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Re: Sca-cooks Digest, Vol 21, Issue 94

To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Devra at aol.com

 

Wan that April with his showers sweet

The drought of March hath pierced to the root

And bathed every vein in swich liquor

Of which virtue engendered is the fleur...

Than longen folk to go on pilgrimages...

 

Geoffrey Chaucer, the prologue

 

      It seems as though the nicer weather was an impetus to travel, and  

with Easter as a movable feast, the two must have coincided occasionally.

      

             Devra

______________________________________________

 

Some of the lines that you omitted are more specific:

 

Whan Zephirus eek with his sweete breeth

Inspired hath in every holt and heeth

The tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne

Hath in the Ram his half cours yronne...

 

Halfway through Aries is about April 5.  I found a website that gives  

the dates of Easter Sunday in the 14th century:

http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cal/key14.htm

(The Canterbury tales were written 1387-1392)

 

Now, halfway through through Aries is about when the pilgrimage season  

started, and that might well be in Lent.  But perhaps these pilgrims  

headed out a little later in the season.  Chaucer says he went to the  

Tabard, "in that seson on a day".   I don't know if there's any detail  

later on that might narrow down the date.

 

Lady Brighid ni Chiarain

Barony of Settmour Swamp, East Kingdom

 

 

Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:13:49 -0300

From: Suey <lordhunt at gmail.com>

Subject: [Sca-cooks] water and plums - the Way of St James

To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org

 

The deal is to get a backpack, hiking boots and go to Paris or

anywhere en route on the pilgrim path, well marked, to St. James of

Compostela at the time of year that suits you. Walk it. You do not have

to be religious to do it. I did it for historical reasons but if you are

religious all better. I did it in spring. It was wonderful with eldewies

and cherries.  I would do again for all the wonderful people I met and

it is economical as we can stay in government run pensions.

 

Suey

 

 

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:47:09 +0000 (GMT)

From: emilio szabo <emilio_szabo at yahoo.it>

Subject: [Sca-cooks] water - way of St. James

To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org

 

There several routes. The most come is the French route going

from Paris to Santiago de Compestela via Burgos and Leon. Another route ...

(...)

Stefan's msg does not deal the dangers of polluted rivers as does the

10th Century text I read, different minerals affect my stomach.

 

> If you come across the details of this 10th century book on water  

> quality, I'd love to add that information to this file.

 

You don't want it. It's in old Spanish and very hard reading for me

and I can't find it so forget it..

-----------

 

Could it be the 12th century Latin Liber sancti Jacobi, also known as Codex Calixtinus, which, in the fifth section (the pilgrim's guide) mentions four established routes to Santiago and in chapter 6 of said section deals with "Rios buenos y malos en el Camino de Santiago", if I may quote the Spanish translation of the text by Mill?n Bravo Lozano in his book "Gu?a del Peregrino Medieval" (1989).

 

If this is not the source you had in mind, please try to remember ...

 

e.

 

 

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:39:09 -0700

From: "S CLEMENGER" <sclemenger at msn.com>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Compostella pilgrimage

To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>

 

> So do you plan to walk the route? Or are you going to use modern

> transportation but follow the old route?

 

I definitely plan on walking it! What would be the point of it, otherwise?

It's supposed to be a journey! From what I've read, I need to be able to

walk about 15-20 miles a day, pretty consistently.  And it would take me a

month, roughly.

 

--Maire

 

 

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:50:33 -0300

From: Suey <lordhunt at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Compostella pilgrimage

To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org

 

Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote:

> Hope you can save up the time.

 

Well, you can do it in sections. It's not the same, but many people do

it this way. Walk a third of the way one year, then the next year come

back and start where you left off, and walk some more, then come back

a third year and finish it...

 

I still want to go some day... been wanting to walk it since I was

about 15 years old...

=============

 

That is right. I did it alone from Astorga to Santiago, others start

from Paris and others at other places along the way. I did not do it for

religious reasons but for food, thought and history.  I came to love the

walk so much that at the end I did not even want to go into the

cathedral I was so sad my walk ended. I met people from all over the

world following the same arrows down and up those paths. I would and do

beg my husband to walk it with me tomorrow.  

 

It is so wonderful. You can

do it alone meeting people on the way or with others. You can do it on

bikes if in shape. I do not recommend doing it in a car. Peter thinks he

wants that and I am telling him no way, your feet have to feel the

stones, the grass and the stream. I went in May and reached out to

touch, grab and eat the cherries.  Flowers were in blown like the

Edelwiess, an ewe was birthing. I sat down to watch her and the shepherd

and I embraced each other over the miracle of birth when her baby

arrived. I got lost in the midst of cows and old women and more cows.

They pointed me in the right direction. A famous English actor rolled

out of a taxi in front of me one day while having a beer at an outside

cafe. He told me his life story and disappeared. Some days later we met

up again and had the best dinner together you can imagine in some off

beat village. I never saw or heard from him again but he was amusing and

interesting as so others I met on the way. My photos are incredible.

Save up time. It is the most economical thing you can do in Europe and

the historical monuments are awesome.

 

And it is a gastronomy tour! The food is out of this world.

 

Suey

 

 

Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:43:34 -0500

From: wildecelery at aol.com

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Sanitago de Compostela

To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org

 

David Gitlitz and Linda Davidson, the authors of A Drizzle of Honey, have a new book out on the pilgrimage of Santiago de Compostela. They've walked it several times, including journies with college students.

 

-Ardenia

Nedra K. Dunton

 

 

Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:40:22 -0500

From: Johnna Holloway <johnnae at mac.com>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] new book about pilgrimage to Compostella - OT

To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>

 

It was mentioned on the list earlier in the fall. The new one from 2008

that I found

is titled:

The Roads to Santiago: The Medieval Pilgrim Routes Through France and

Spain to Santiago de Compostela.

It's a $60 gift heavily illustrated volume by Derry Brabbs.

 

I suspect that someone was wrong about The Pilgrimage Road to Santiago:

The Complete Cultural Handbook being a new book.

 

Johnnae

 

devra at aol.com wrote:

Someone told me that Gitlizt and Davidson had a "new" book on the pilgrimage to Compostella. However, when I looked it up in Books in Print, the only one I could find had a 2000 publication date. Does anyone know about this? It sounds like an interesting book...

 

Devra the frustrated bookseller

 

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