Lent-msg - 5/9/09 ਀ഊMedieval Lenten practices and restrictions. Recreating these in the Current Middle Ages. Food restrictions. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: religion-msg, indulgences-msg, Psaltrs-Rose-lnks, Puritans-msg, fish-feast-art, fish-msg, fasts-msg, eggs-msg, vegetarian-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:22:39 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀一椀挀欀 匀愀猀猀漀∀ 㰀最爀椀稀氀礀 愀琀 洀椀渀搀猀瀀爀椀渀最⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: RE: [Sca-cooks] Speaking of Lent.... ਀吀漀㨀 ∀✀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀✀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀 ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ伀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊ> Maire, you could have got away with eating chicken soup! You ਀㸀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 愀渀 攀砀攀洀瀀琀椀漀渀 昀爀漀洀 礀漀甀爀 氀漀挀愀氀 戀椀猀栀漀瀀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀昀ഊ> you were ill (or rich!) enough you would have been allowed it ਀㸀 昀漀爀 洀攀搀椀挀椀渀愀氀 瀀甀爀瀀漀猀攀猀⸀ 䨀甀猀琀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀℀ 㬀ⴀ䐀ഊ> ਀㸀 䰀甀挀爀攀稀椀愀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䰀攀渀琀 琀栀愀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀 戀攀 漀瘀攀爀氀漀漀欀攀搀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀ഊtruly amazing to read about the various many possible means of obtaining ਀椀渀搀甀氀最攀渀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀 栀漀甀猀攀栀漀氀搀⸀  吀栀攀 栀甀洀愀渀椀琀愀爀椀愀渀 愀挀琀猀 愀渀搀ഊmonetary donations as well as devotional activities all carried potential ਀昀漀爀 瀀氀攀渀愀爀礀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 椀渀搀甀氀最攀渀挀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 焀甀椀琀攀 瘀攀爀礀 甀猀攀昀甀氀 搀甀爀椀渀最 氀攀渀琀⸀  䴀礀ഊvision is that the nobility did truly have to follow the cannon on Lenten ਀✀昀愀猀琀椀渀最✀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀氀猀漀 栀愀搀 爀攀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 琀漀 洀椀琀椀最愀琀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀挀爀椀昀椀挀攀猀 渀攀攀搀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 昀椀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 攀瘀攀渀 洀漀爀攀 昀甀氀昀椀氀氀椀渀最 挀栀愀氀氀攀渀最攀猀 猀攀攀欀椀渀最 漀甀琀 眀愀礀猀 琀漀ഊobtain indulgences and performing those during your real lent this year in ਀漀爀搀攀爀 琀漀 最攀琀 椀渀搀甀氀最攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 昀漀漀搀 漀瀀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最攀琀 愀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀攀攀氀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀ഊmedieval Lenten experience. ਀ഊIf they were prevalent enough for Brother Martin to stick a dagger in the ਀搀漀漀爀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 洀甀猀琀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 眀攀氀氀 甀琀椀氀椀稀攀搀⸀  匀甀爀攀Ⰰ 洀漀渀攀礀 眀愀猀 愀 栀甀最攀ഊfactor, but there were other means of obtaining them on your own behalf by ਀洀愀欀椀渀最 瀀椀氀最爀椀洀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 伀䈀匀䔀刀嘀䤀一䜀 匀䄀䤀一吀 嘀䔀一䔀刀䄀吀䤀伀一 䄀一䐀 䘀䔀䄀匀吀 䐀䄀夀匀⸀  夀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀ഊalso look into the feast days as opportunities in the Middle Ages. They had ਀䰀伀吀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 昀漀爀 爀攀愀氀 爀攀愀猀漀渀猀 ⸀ ⸀ ⸀ 氀椀欀攀 氀攀渀琀⸀  礀漀甀 洀愀礀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 漀戀猀攀爀瘀愀渀挀攀ഊof Saints' officially sanctioned feast days sets aside the dietary ਀爀攀猀琀爀椀挀琀椀漀渀猀 ⸀ ⸀ ⸀ 洀愀礀戀攀 渀漀琀 ⸀ ⸀ ⸀ 搀攀瀀攀渀搀猀 漀渀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 瀀氀愀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 䰀攀渀琀攀渀 琀栀椀渀最 椀猀 愀 瀀攀爀瘀愀猀椀瘀攀 猀漀挀椀漀ⴀ攀挀漀渀漀洀椀挀 昀愀挀攀琀 漀昀 氀椀昀攀⸀  䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 渀漀ഊsources for anything at this point, but remember finding piles about it when ਀爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀椀渀最 椀渀 䠀椀最栀 匀挀栀漀漀氀⸀  刀攀愀氀氀礀 昀椀氀氀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀渀椀挀挀漀氀漀 搀椀昀爀愀渀挀攀猀挀漀ഊ(yup, them Franciscans had indulgences, but not for money) ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䘀攀戀 ㈀　　㘀 ㄀㐀㨀㐀㠀㨀　㌀ ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: "Lonnie D. Harvel" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 匀瀀攀愀欀椀渀最 漀昀 䰀攀渀琀⸀⸀⸀⸀ഊTo: lonnie.harvel at ece.gatech.edu, Cooks within the SCA ਀ऀ㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䄀 洀甀挀栀 洀漀爀攀 甀猀攀昀甀氀 猀椀琀攀⸀⸀⸀ 䄀 吀䤀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 昀爀漀洀 ㈀　　㌀㨀ഊhttp://anvil.unl.edu/agnes/RecreatingLent.htm ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䘀攀戀 ㈀　　㘀 　㘀㨀㄀　㨀㄀㤀 ⴀ　㠀　　 ⠀倀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: Marcus Loidolt ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䰀攀渀琀攀渀 猀琀甀昀昀昀Ⰰ 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀猀Ⰰ 昀椀猀栀 愀渀搀 瘀攀最攀琀愀爀椀愀渀猀⸀⸀⸀ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀ഊMiddle Eastern Lent, that is Orthodox Great Fast starts NOT on March ਀㄀猀琀 戀甀琀 漀渀 䘀攀戀爀甀愀爀礀 ㈀㜀琀栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 䴀漀渀搀愀礀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 圀攀猀琀攀爀渀 䄀猀栀  ഊWednesday...Rome and the West counts the Sundays...the East does not... ਀ഊ Also bear in mind that for the West, one might be allowed fish or ਀漀琀栀攀爀 挀漀氀搀 戀氀漀漀搀攀搀 愀渀椀洀愀氀猀 漀渀 䘀爀椀搀愀礀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀 昀漀爀琀栀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 猀漀 椀渀 琀栀攀  ഊEast. According to St. John Chrysostom in the 3rd.cent. "let no food ਀搀攀爀椀瘀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 愀渀礀 猀瀀椀渀攀搀 琀栀椀渀最 瀀愀猀猀 礀漀甀爀 氀椀瀀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 搀愀礀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀  ഊGreat Fast..." "Keep with Joy and Feasting the Day of Resurrection, ਀氀攀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀 匀甀渀搀愀礀 戀攀 昀椀氀氀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 樀漀礀Ⰰ 洀甀猀椀挀 愀渀搀 昀攀愀猀琀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀氀氀℀∀ഊ ਀   匀漀 琀栀愀琀 攀瘀攀渀 琀漀搀愀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀 䌀栀甀爀挀栀Ⰰ 戀漀琀栀 䌀愀琀栀漀氀椀挀 愀渀搀  ഊOrthodox, one will find the observant faithful ABSTAINING from meat, ਀戀甀琀 挀漀渀猀甀洀椀渀最 搀愀椀爀礀 愀渀搀 攀最最 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀 漀渀 吀甀攀猀搀愀礀猀Ⰰ 吀栀甀爀猀搀愀礀猀 愀渀搀  ഊSaturdays, and FASTING from all animal products on Mondays, ਀圀攀搀渀攀猀搀愀礀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䘀爀椀搀愀礀猀⸀ 圀栀椀氀攀 匀甀渀搀愀礀Ⰰ 愀最愀椀渀 戀攀椀渀最 琀栀攀 䐀愀礀 漀昀  ഊResurrection, is forbidden to fast and so one might enjoy non-spined/ ਀椀渀瘀攀爀琀愀戀爀愀琀攀猀 愀渀搀 搀愀椀爀礀Ⰰ 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 昀漀漀搀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 洀椀最栀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 洀攀愀琀  ഊbroth or gravy but which is less than 1% of the dish. ਀ഊ Abot Johann von Metten ਀   洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 瀀漀甀氀琀爀椀攀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:34:50 -0800 (PST) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀愀爀挀甀猀 䰀漀椀搀漀氀琀 㰀洀樀氀漀椀搀漀氀琀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] Re: Sca-cooks Digest, Vol 33, Issue 33 ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䈀攀渀攀搀椀挀琀攀Ⰰഊ Indeed, the devotional practices of alms-giving and prayer vigils ਀眀攀爀攀 渀漀琀 愀渀搀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 愀 眀愀礀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 攀砀挀甀猀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 洀椀猀栀愀瀀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀  ഊfasting regimes, but were/are and intrical part of the whole Great ਀䘀愀猀琀⼀䰀攀渀琀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀   吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 洀愀渀礀 眀愀礀猀 琀漀 漀戀猀攀爀瘀攀 䰀攀渀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 猀椀挀欀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 礀漀甀渀最 愀渀搀  ഊthe aged are always exempt from the fasting regime, but not from the ਀挀漀爀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䜀爀攀愀琀 䘀愀猀琀Ⰰ 琀漀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 刀攀猀甀爀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀 戀礀 愀渀  ഊincrease in devotions and depth of prayer and rightousness of life. ਀ഊ "The Fasting and Abstainence stops the pollution, but it is by ਀瀀爀愀礀攀爀 愀渀搀 最漀漀搀 眀漀爀欀猀 琀栀愀琀 漀渀攀 挀氀攀愀渀猀 琀栀攀 栀漀甀猀攀∀ഊ St. Macrina the Great, 3rd. century Ceasarea in Cappadocia ਀ഊ Johann ਀ഊsca-cooks-request at ansteorra.org wrote: ਀   吀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䰀攀渀琀 琀栀愀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀 戀攀  ഊoverlooked. It is ਀琀爀甀氀礀 愀洀愀稀椀渀最 琀漀 爀攀愀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀愀渀礀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 洀攀愀渀猀 漀昀 漀戀琀愀椀渀椀渀最ഊindulgences for the person and/or household. The humanitarian acts and ਀洀漀渀攀琀愀爀礀 搀漀渀愀琀椀漀渀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 搀攀瘀漀琀椀漀渀愀氀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀 愀氀氀 挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 瀀漀琀攀渀琀椀愀氀ഊfor plenary or other indulgences that are quite very useful during lent. My ਀瘀椀猀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 渀漀戀椀氀椀琀礀 搀椀搀 琀爀甀氀礀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 昀漀氀氀漀眀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀渀漀渀 漀渀 䰀攀渀琀攀渀ഊ'fasting', but also had resources to mitigate the sacrifices needed. ਀ഊniccolo difrancesco ਀⠀礀甀瀀Ⰰ 琀栀攀洀 䘀爀愀渀挀椀猀挀愀渀猀 栀愀搀 椀渀搀甀氀最攀渀挀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 昀漀爀 洀漀渀攀礀⤀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:38:41 -0800 (PST) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀愀爀挀甀猀 䰀漀椀搀漀氀琀 㰀洀樀氀漀椀搀漀氀琀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] Lenten ideas for non Christians... ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䈀攀渀攀搀椀挀琀攀Ⰰഊ Yes, the eastern rite may consume such seafood as mentioned...on ਀匀甀渀搀愀礀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 渀漀琀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 渀漀琀 愀 爀攀瀀爀椀攀瘀攀 最爀愀渀琀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀  ഊweak, but rather an understanding of the nature of the Day of ਀刀攀猀甀爀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 攀瘀攀爀礀 匀甀渀搀愀礀 椀猀⸀ഊ ਀   圀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀⼀挀漀甀氀搀 愀 渀漀渀 䌀栀爀椀猀琀椀愀渀 搀漀 愀猀 愀 搀攀瘀漀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 䰀攀渀琀㼀 圀攀氀氀Ⰰ  ഊevery religion has it's own prayer and meditational cycle...enhance ਀琀栀椀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀 攀渀挀漀甀爀愀最椀渀最 愀渀搀 洀攀搀椀琀愀琀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀 漀昀  ഊnew life, redemption, change from death to life, dark to light, bad ਀琀漀 最漀漀搀Ⰰ 最漀漀搀 琀漀 戀攀琀琀攀爀Ⰰ 攀挀琀⸀⸀⸀吀栀攀 挀漀爀攀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀 椀猀 挀栀愀渀最攀 愀渀搀 漀甀爀  ഊbeing prepared for it. What to do? Give alms, care for the poor, ਀攀渀挀漀甀爀愀最攀 渀攀眀 最爀漀眀琀栀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 戀攀渀攀昀椀琀 漀昀 漀琀栀攀爀猀Ⰰ 栀攀愀氀 漀氀搀 眀漀甀渀搀猀Ⰰ  ഊrepair damaged relationships, ect... ਀ഊ Maire, a 14th century Irish woman, you'd probably be spending ਀愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀 琀椀洀攀 愀琀 挀栀甀爀挀栀 搀攀瘀漀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀爀漀猀猀 眀愀猀 樀甀猀琀  ഊgaining popularity as a substitute for the dangerous pilgrimage to ਀䨀攀爀甀猀愀氀攀洀⸀ 䌀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀渀最 愀渀搀 搀椀猀瀀攀爀猀椀渀最 愀氀洀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 瀀漀漀爀 愀渀搀 椀渀搀椀最攀渀琀 漀昀  ഊthe area, helping those who might already be doing so. You might also ਀甀猀攀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 猀漀爀琀 猀攀攀搀猀 愀渀搀 搀攀挀椀搀攀 礀漀甀爀 瀀漀甀氀琀爀礀 戀爀攀攀搀椀渀最 猀琀漀挀欀Ⰰ  ഊeven if you lived in town you'd have a few hens... ਀ഊ Johann ਀ഊ ------------------------------ ਀ഊNon-spined/invertebrates would include things like bivalves and crustaceans, ਀爀椀最栀琀㼀 吀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 最椀瘀攀 琀栀攀 攀愀猀琀攀爀渀ⴀ爀椀琀攀 昀漀氀欀猀 猀漀洀攀 昀椀猀栀礀 琀栀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 猀甀爀攀℀ഊI'm not actually sure if I'm going to do the Sunday-as-a-reprieve-from-fasting or not. I'd like to see if I can do the whole 40 days, since my persona is quite distinctly religious, enough so, that I don't think I'd be fudging it for anything except dire need (illness ਀漀爀 猀漀洀攀 猀甀挀栀⤀⸀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀ䴀愀椀爀攀Ⰰ 眀栀漀 昀椀渀搀猀 椀琀 漀搀搀 戀甀琀 愀洀甀猀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 ⨀猀栀攀⨀ 椀猀 搀攀攀瀀氀礀 爀攀氀椀最椀漀甀猀 愀渀搀ഊSue, who pays the bills, is also deeply religious, but one is Catholic, and ਀琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 圀椀挀挀愀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:56:20 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 氀椀氀椀渀愀栀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Lenten stufff, chickens, fish and ਀ऀ瘀攀最攀琀愀爀椀愀渀猀⸀⸀⸀ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀ഊAbot Johann von Metten wroter: ਀㸀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀 䰀攀渀琀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 伀爀琀栀漀搀漀砀 䜀爀攀愀琀 䘀愀猀琀 猀琀愀爀琀猀 一伀吀 漀渀 䴀愀爀挀栀ഊ> 1st but on February 27th, the Monday before Western Ash ਀㸀 圀攀搀渀攀猀搀愀礀⸀⸀⸀刀漀洀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 圀攀猀琀 挀漀甀渀琀猀 琀栀攀 匀甀渀搀愀礀猀⸀⸀⸀琀栀攀 䔀愀猀琀 搀漀攀猀ഊ> not... ਀㸀ഊ> Also bear in mind that for the West, one might be allowed fish or ਀㸀 漀琀栀攀爀 挀漀氀搀 戀氀漀漀搀攀搀 愀渀椀洀愀氀猀 漀渀 䘀爀椀搀愀礀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀 昀漀爀琀栀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 猀漀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊ> East. According to St. John Chrysostom in the 3rd.cent. "let no food ਀㸀 搀攀爀椀瘀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 愀渀礀 猀瀀椀渀攀搀 琀栀椀渀最 瀀愀猀猀 礀漀甀爀 氀椀瀀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 搀愀礀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊ> Great Fast..." "Keep with Joy and Feasting the Day of Resurrection, ਀㸀 氀攀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀 匀甀渀搀愀礀 戀攀 昀椀氀氀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 樀漀礀Ⰰ 洀甀猀椀挀 愀渀搀 昀攀愀猀琀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀氀氀℀∀ഊ> ਀㸀   匀漀 琀栀愀琀 攀瘀攀渀 琀漀搀愀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀 䌀栀甀爀挀栀Ⰰ 戀漀琀栀 䌀愀琀栀漀氀椀挀 愀渀搀ഊ> Orthodox, one will find the observant faithful ABSTAINING from meat, ਀㸀 戀甀琀 挀漀渀猀甀洀椀渀最 搀愀椀爀礀 愀渀搀 攀最最 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀 漀渀 吀甀攀猀搀愀礀猀Ⰰ 吀栀甀爀猀搀愀礀猀 愀渀搀ഊ> Saturdays, and FASTING from all animal products on Mondays, ਀㸀 圀攀搀渀攀猀搀愀礀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䘀爀椀搀愀礀猀⸀ 圀栀椀氀攀 匀甀渀搀愀礀Ⰰ 愀最愀椀渀 戀攀椀渀最 琀栀攀 䐀愀礀 漀昀ഊ> Resurrection, is forbidden to fast and so one might enjoy non ਀㸀 猀瀀椀渀攀搀⼀椀渀瘀攀爀琀愀戀爀愀琀攀猀 愀渀搀 搀愀椀爀礀Ⰰ 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 昀漀漀搀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 洀椀最栀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀ഊ> meat broth or gravy but which is less than 1% of the dish. ਀ഊI know you are quite knowledgeable about the Eastern Orthodox Church, ਀愀渀搀 椀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 眀爀漀琀攀 琀漀 戀攀 琀爀甀攀 椀渀 䈀礀稀愀渀琀椀甀洀⸀ 䈀甀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 一攀愀爀ഊEast (Egypt, Syria, etc.) there were many different Christian sects, ਀猀漀洀攀 漀昀 眀栀椀挀栀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 琀漀 琀栀椀猀 搀愀礀⸀ 吀栀攀椀爀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀猀 ∀椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀∀ 眀攀爀攀ഊa little different from the Eastern Church, although i don't have ਀氀漀琀猀 漀昀 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀⸀ 䤀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀愀琀 昀椀猀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⠀漀渀攀 漀昀 眀栀椀挀栀 椀 洀愀搀攀 氀愀猀琀ഊyear - fish with sesame paste sauce) are included in the Lenten ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 椀渀 吀栀攀 䈀漀漀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䐀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 䘀愀洀椀氀椀愀爀 䘀漀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 愀氀猀漀 猀愀礀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀渀礀 渀漀爀洀愀氀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 挀愀渀 戀攀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 䰀攀渀琀Ⰰ 愀猀ഊlong as meat is not included. ਀ⴀⴀ ഊUrtatim (that's err-tah-TEEM) ਀琀栀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀 昀漀爀洀攀爀氀礀 欀渀漀眀渀 愀猀 䄀渀愀栀椀琀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:51:33 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䌀栀爀椀猀琀椀渀攀 匀攀攀氀礀攀ⴀ䬀椀渀最∀ 㰀欀椀渀最猀琀愀猀琀攀 愀琀 洀椀渀搀猀瀀爀椀渀最⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] Lent Approaches ਀吀漀㨀 ∀✀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀✀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 漀渀 洀礀 渀攀砀琀 䰀椀瘀椀渀最 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀 挀氀愀猀猀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀 吀栀甀爀猀搀愀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀椀渀挀攀 椀琀ഊis so close to Mardis Gras, I'm going to do two courses, one for Shrove ਀吀甀攀猀搀愀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 漀渀攀 昀漀爀 䰀攀渀琀⸀  ഊ ਀䤀渀 琀栀攀 瀀愀猀琀 眀攀✀瘀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀攀搀 瘀愀爀椀愀琀椀漀渀猀 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 攀愀琀椀渀最 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀甀琀 渀漀琀ഊnecessarily Lenten diet; giving up dairy, eggs and meat but not sugar, ਀愀氀挀漀栀漀氀Ⰰ 攀琀挀㬀 搀漀椀渀最 樀甀猀琀 漀渀攀 眀攀攀欀 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 䠀漀氀礀 圀攀攀欀 ⠀氀愀猀琀 眀攀攀欀 戀攀昀漀爀攀ഊEaster); etc. ਀ഊSince I'm the French Toast Laurel(TM), I am going to embrace the whole ਀瀀愀渀挀愀欀攀⼀眀愀昀昀氀攀⼀䘀爀攀渀挀栀 琀漀愀猀琀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 匀栀爀漀瘀攀 吀甀攀猀搀愀礀 挀漀甀爀猀攀⸀ 䤀 眀愀猀ഊthinking Golden Balls would be a good choice. ਀ഊI have a hard time believing this story isn't apocryphal, but I have ਀昀漀甀渀搀 椀琀 椀渀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 愀爀攀愀猀 愀渀搀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀 猀漀甀渀搀 氀椀欀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀礀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀  ഊclass: ਀ഊIn England there are several celebrations on this day but perhaps the best ਀欀渀漀眀渀 漀渀攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 倀愀渀挀愀欀攀 䐀愀礀 刀愀挀攀 愀琀 伀氀渀攀礀 椀渀 䈀甀挀欀椀渀最栀愀洀猀栀椀爀攀 眀栀椀挀栀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀ഊheld since 1445. The race came about when a woman cooking pancakes heard the ਀猀栀爀椀瘀椀渀最 戀攀氀氀 猀甀洀洀漀渀椀渀最 栀攀爀 琀漀 挀漀渀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀⸀ 匀栀攀 爀愀渀 琀漀 挀栀甀爀挀栀 眀攀愀爀椀渀最 栀攀爀ഊapron and still holding her frying pan, and thus without knowing it, ਀猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 愀 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 氀愀猀琀攀搀 昀漀爀 漀瘀攀爀 昀椀瘀攀 栀甀渀搀爀攀搀 礀攀愀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀挀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀 爀甀氀攀猀Ⰰ 漀渀氀礀 眀漀洀攀渀 眀攀愀爀椀渀最 愀 搀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ 渀漀 猀氀愀挀欀猀 漀爀ഊjeans, an apron and a hat or scarf, may take part in the race. Each ਀挀漀渀琀攀猀琀愀渀琀 栀愀猀 愀 昀爀礀椀渀最 瀀愀渀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀椀渀最 愀 栀漀琀Ⰰ 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 瀀愀渀挀愀欀攀⸀ 匀栀攀 洀甀猀琀 琀漀猀猀ഊit three times during the race that starts at the market square at 11.55 am. ਀吀栀攀 眀椀渀渀攀爀 椀猀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 眀漀洀愀渀 琀漀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀椀渀最 ㌀㜀㔀 洀攀琀攀爀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 ⠀琀栀攀ഊrecord is 63 seconds set in 1967) and arrive at the church, serve her ਀瀀愀渀挀愀欀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀攀氀氀爀椀渀最攀爀 愀渀搀 戀攀 欀椀猀猀攀搀 戀礀 栀椀洀⸀ 匀栀攀 愀氀猀漀 爀攀挀攀椀瘀攀猀 愀 瀀爀愀礀攀爀ഊbook from the vicar. ਀ഊAlso for my class, I found this Lenten Alms Jar activity on a Christian ਀猀椀琀攀Ⰰ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 眀攀 洀愀礀 搀漀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 椀琀㨀ഊ ਀䰀攀渀琀攀渀 䄀氀洀猀 䨀愀爀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 愀氀洀猀 樀愀爀 瀀攀爀昀漀爀洀猀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀ⴀ昀漀氀搀 瀀甀爀瀀漀猀攀 漀昀 搀攀洀漀渀猀琀爀愀琀椀渀最 琀漀 挀栀椀氀搀爀攀渀 琀栀攀ഊimportance of almsgiving and contributing money to the poor. ਀ഊDirections ਀ഊThe whole family can enter into the spirit of saving for alms. A glass jar ਀椀猀 瀀氀愀挀攀搀 愀琀 琀栀攀 挀攀渀琀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 䄀猀栀 圀攀搀渀攀猀搀愀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 洀漀渀攀礀ഊeach family member saves as a result of self-denial from smoking, eating ਀挀愀渀搀礀Ⰰ 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 洀漀瘀椀攀猀 漀爀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀 椀猀 瀀甀琀 椀渀琀漀 椀琀⸀ 吀栀攀 洀漀琀栀攀爀Ⰰഊbuying simpler and cheaper foods for Lenten meals, puts the difference into ਀琀栀攀 樀愀爀 愀琀 洀攀愀氀 琀椀洀攀 ⴀ 猀漀 愀氀氀 挀愀渀 猀攀攀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀攀猀猀攀爀琀 眀攀渀琀℀ഊThe children spend the first weeks of Lent investigating needy causes and ਀挀栀愀爀椀琀愀戀氀攀 漀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 洀椀猀猀椀漀渀猀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀椀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀ഊdetermining who gets the alms-fund. ਀ഊChristianna ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㈀㜀 䨀愀渀 ㈀　　㠀 ㄀㤀㨀㈀㌀㨀　㜀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䰀攀渀琀 䄀瀀瀀爀漀愀挀栀攀猀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊSorry to play spoiler. I looked this up and it's probably more urban ਀洀礀琀栀 漀爀 昀漀氀欀氀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀∀吀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 昀愀洀漀甀猀Ⰰ 愀琀 伀氀渀攀礀 ⠀䈀甀挀欀椀渀最栀愀洀猀栀椀爀攀⤀ 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 椀琀猀 漀爀椀最椀渀 氀攀最攀渀搀ഊthat back in 1445 a woman rushed off to church on hearing the shriving ਀戀攀氀氀Ⰰ 猀琀椀氀氀 栀漀氀搀椀渀最 栀攀爀 昀爀礀椀渀最 瀀愀渀⸀ 䤀琀猀 爀攀愀氀 愀最攀 椀猀 栀愀爀搀 琀漀 攀猀琀愀戀氀椀猀栀⸀ഊIt is not mentioned in Wright and Lones, which must mean not only that ਀椀琀 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 栀攀氀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ㄀㤀㌀　猀 戀甀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀 渀漀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 琀漀 椀琀 椀渀ഊolder works. What is certain is that soon after the Second World War the ਀瘀椀挀愀爀 ∀爀攀瘀椀瘀攀搀∀ 椀琀⸀⸀⸀∀ഊ ਀吀栀攀礀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀甀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 洀愀搀攀 椀琀 渀椀挀攀氀礀 㔀　　 礀攀愀爀猀 ㄀㐀㐀㔀ⴀ㄀㤀㐀㔀⸀⸀⸀⸀ 眀栀椀挀栀ഊmakes the dating even more suspect. ਀ഊ"pancake races" /A Dictionary of English Folklore/. Jacqueline Simpson ਀愀渀搀 匀琀攀瘀攀 刀漀甀搀⸀ 伀砀昀漀爀搀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 倀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ ㈀　　　⸀ ⼀伀砀昀漀爀搀 刀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀  ഊOnline/. ਀ഊJohnnae ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀　 䄀甀最 ㈀　　㠀 ㈀㌀㨀　㠀㨀㌀㜀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 眀攀椀爀搀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 ⴀ 栀漀渀攀礀 昀愀猀琀㼀㼀㼀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊMore from ਀  䜀漀漀最氀攀 䈀漀漀欀猀 琀栀椀猀 攀瘀攀渀椀渀最ഊ ਀吀栀攀 䘀攀猀琀愀氀 夀攀愀爀㬀 伀爀Ⰰ 吀栀攀 伀爀椀最椀渀Ⰰ 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀Ⰰ 䌀攀爀攀洀漀渀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 䴀攀愀渀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 ഊSundays, Seasons, Feasts and Festivals of the Church During the Year, ਀䔀砀瀀氀愀椀渀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 倀攀漀瀀氀攀㨀 伀爀Ⰰ 吀栀攀 伀爀椀最椀渀Ⰰ 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀Ⰰ 䌀攀爀攀洀漀渀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 ഊMeaning of the Sundays, Seasons, Feasts and Festivals of the Church ਀䐀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 夀攀愀爀 ⸀⸀⸀ഊBy James Luke Meagher ਀倀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 戀礀 刀甀猀猀攀氀氀 䈀爀漀琀栀攀爀猀Ⰰ ㄀㠀㠀㌀ഊ ਀䄀洀漀渀最 琀栀攀 䜀爀攀攀欀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 渀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀攀猀琀 漀昀 䄀猀椀愀Ⰰഊon Septuagesima Sunday they published the rules and ਀爀攀最甀氀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 䰀攀渀琀⸀ 䘀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 昀漀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 䴀漀渀搀愀礀 琀栀攀礀ഊuse no meat, but eat what they call "White Meats," as ਀攀最最猀Ⰰ 挀栀攀攀猀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 琀栀椀渀最猀 漀昀 琀栀愀琀 欀椀渀搀Ⰰ 眀栀椀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊMonday before Ash Wednesday, their Lent begins with ਀愀氀氀 椀琀猀 爀椀最漀爀猀⸀ 䘀爀漀洀 琀栀愀琀 琀椀洀攀 琀栀攀礀 攀愀琀 渀攀椀琀栀攀爀 洀攀愀琀Ⰰഊeggs, cheese or even fish. The only things allowed are ਀戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 昀爀甀椀琀猀Ⰰ 栀漀渀攀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 氀椀瘀攀 渀攀愀爀 琀栀攀 猀攀愀Ⰰഊshell-fish. Wine, for a long time forbidden, is drank no ਀洀漀爀攀 愀洀漀渀最 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀渀愀攀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. Harris Lent-msg Page 7 of 7 ਀ഊ