p-herbals-msg - 2/16/08
Period herb books. Modern translations and reprints.
NOTE: See also the files: herbs-msg, seeds-msg, herb-uses-msg, lavender-msg, rue-msg, spices-msg, garlic-msg, Basic-Herbs-art, herb-mixes-msg, p-agriculture-bib.
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:49:34 -0600
From: khkeeler <kkeeler at unlinfo.unl.edu>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: Re- Beans in a Period Recip
DianaFiona at aol.com wrote:
> <<
> Carob is mentioned in the Dioscorides' herbal (AD 64 and the most
> important medicinal herbal across all of Period)
> >>
> OK, next question---anyone know where to get a modern translation of
> this? Or, for that matter, any other of the numerous period herbals. I have
> Culpeper's and an abreviated edition of Gerard, but I haven't seen any others
> offered. But they are quoted freqently, so I tend to think that they are
> around--somewhere......
> Ldy Diana
I don't think its' easy. What are the sources--
Dioscorides is out of print. There is an English translation from the
1930's in older university libraries. I admit to xeroxing it but I'd buy
a copy if one were available.
Galen and Pliny on plants anyone?
The Tacunium Sanitatis --Medieval Health Handbook. two very different
editions were printed about 10 years ago, doubtless both are out of
print--tho I found one at a used book store on at trip to Minneapolis
recently. I can get you the ISBN's if you want.
Macer's the Virtues of Herbs (1000 AD I think) was translated by D.P.
O'Hanlon about 1980 and published by Hemkunt Press, Delhi. I think it's
still in press through obscure New Age importers--I can provide an
address.
I would like to find a copy of the original Latin. Anyone know a
source?
Hildegard of Bingen's medical writings. Because noone in Period quoted
her, I haven't hunted, but I think they are available in recent
translations.
There are a variety of mid Period herbals in various languages based on
Dioscorides.
Anyone have sources for those?
By late Period
Gerard and Culpeper, both reprinted.
There was a facsimile edition of Turner's herbal published in England in
the last decade--I lusted after it but wasn't willing to pay the price.
Banks' herbal, the Grete Herbal--those I think are still only available
at the big libraries.
I found Cockayne on Leechcraft (complex title, but a translation of all
the AngloSaxon Medieval stuff he could find) in a library but I don't
think there's a version in print. Anyone know?
Other things for an herbalist?
Agnes deLanvallei
Mag Mor, Calontir
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:26:42 -0700
From: Evelyn Alden <katriana at chanute-ks.com>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Herbals
Dover has reprinted the complete Gerard's herbal, most any bookseller who
carries Dover books should be willing to order it for you. Last time I
checked it was $85 dollars, or thereabouts. weight is 10-15 lbs hardbound.
Dover also publishes _The Garden of Pleasant Flowers" by Parkinson, orig.
published in 1629, just under $25.
katriana
Calontir
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:12:58 -0600
From: theodelinda at webtv.net (linda webb)
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: Herbals
I believe DIoscorides is one of the many Greek & Roman authors whose
works are available in the Loeb editions, which are published by the
Harvard University Press. You can get ordering information through your
bookeller, or by calling HUP's 800 number, which is available through
directory assistance. For those who are unfamiliar with this useful
series, they are facing-page translations of ancient authors (Greek or
Latin on the left-hand page, and English on the right-hand one), which
are (for this sort of thing) reasonably priced (the last time I bought
one, about $23) (This may seem high to people who don't know this
field, but I have seen books in the original language only sell for $60
hb, and $30pb...) They are hardbound, the Greek ones in Green and the
Latin ones in red. In addition to the more common authors, like Caesar,
Plato, and Cicero, the Loeb editions include a lot of more obscure
material, like the scientific writers. For those who are interested in
ancient and medieval farming, they have both Cato and Columella, for
example. The one drawback is that, because the books are small, a text
might require three or four volumes.
Theo
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:20:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Carol Thomas <scbooks at neca.com>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Beans in a Period/herbals
>Tacunium Sanitas - Medieval Health Handbook
This is still in print, in paperback, by Ratti, pub. by Braziller.
Hildegard of Bingen's "Medicine" is also in print, pb, authors Dr. Wighard
Strehlow and Gottfried Hertzka, MD, publisher is Bear & Co.
It combines exerpts from Handbuch der Hildegard-Medizin with the authors'
ideas on folk medicines and commentary on her recommendations.
Lady Carllein
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:18:42 -0500 (EST)
From: <DianaFiona at aol.com>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: Re- Beans in a Period Recip
<<
The Tacunium Sanitatis --Medieval Health Handbook. two very different
editions were printed about 10 years ago, doubtless both are out of
print--tho I found one at a used book store on at trip to Minneapolis
recently. I can get you the ISBN's if you want.>>
Hummmm, just checked Small Churl Books
(http://www.neca.com/~scbooks/)--they do have it! Here's the blurb:
MEDIEVAL HEALTH HANDBOOK
Luisa Cogliati Arano (Braziller)
Selected from five important illuminated manuscripts on health, this
delightful book explains the effects which plants, foods, winds, flowers,
seasons and other factors were believed to have on a person's medical status.
Some examples: beets cure dandruff, roses cure inflamed brains, spinich is
good for a cough, and pinecones stimulate the libido. 153 pages, softcover.
291 illustrations, 48 in color. Size: 6.5 x 9.
Price: $19.95
Ldy Diana
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:48:45 -0600
From: kkeeler at unlinfo.unl.edu (Kathleen H. Keeler)
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: herbals
>The only version I know of is:
>
>Author: Cockayne, Thomas Oswald, 1807-1873.
>Title: Leechdoms, wortcunning, and starcraft of early England : Being
> a collection of documents, for the most part never before
> printed, illustrating the history of science in this country
> before the Norman conquest
>Published: London : Longman, Green, Longman, Roberts, and Green, 1864-66.
>
>Unless there is a much more recent edition, good luck finding it (and if
>you find 2 copies -- let me know!) and it is a tad too early for an ISBN.
>If you are neat a large library do look for it. It is great fun.
>Ailene ingen Aedain
There's a more recent version--same title, 1961 The Holland Press, London.
So there should be an ISBN, but I don' have it recorded.
Agnes
kkeeler at unlinfo.unl.edu
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:49:00 -0600
From: kkeeler at unlinfo.unl.edu (Kathleen H. Keeler)
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Herbals (was Re Beans in a Period Recip
An Arab "health handbook" made its way into Europe, translated at least
four different times and places. The Four Seasons of the House of Cerruti
is a very pretty edition of one of the copies (14th Century, Po Valley, Italy,
apparently commissioned for some member of the House of Cerruti. ) Judith
Spencer, tr. The four seasons of hte House of Cerruti, Facts on File
Publications, New York andBicester, England. 1983. ISBN 0-8160-0138-3,
originaly $17.95!) Its more accessible than the Arano book because its a
single whole, with very useful commentary at the end.
Arano's is pretty clearly the core of a PhD thesis which studied all the
extant copies. It assumes you know more about the 4 humours theory and not
all the names are translated (look for lettuce under under lactuce (the
Latin?)
Both versions are simply wonderful for the illustrations--which can
be used in all sorts of contexts you never planned. I used one to document
serving wine from small jugs. And sent someone else to it for the pictures
of a hen house. The Arano version has more pictures, tho smaller and in
black and white, and so there are more items documentable or that can be
studied from that version.
> Macer's the Virtues of Herbs (1000 AD I think) was translated by D.P.
> O'Hanlon about 1980 and published by Hemkunt Press, E 1/15 Patel Rd. New
>Delhi--110008, but I got it from Auromere (booksellers) 1291 Webster St.
>Pomona CA 91768. (714) 629-8255 (that's from a sticker in the book, may
>not be current).Its a small book and was under $20. The translation was
>done with New Age use of herbs in mind (the footnotes link to American
>Indian uses) but its close to being a primary source, being a full
>translation of Macer's work.
Agnes
kkeeler at unlinfo.unl.edu
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:35:33 -0500 (EST)
From: <DianaFiona at aol.com>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: herbals
<<
Author: Cockayne, Thomas Oswald, 1807-1873.
Title: Leechdoms, wortcunning, and starcraft of early England : Being
a collection of documents, for the most part never before
printed, illustrating the history of science in this country
before the Norman conquest
Published: London : Longman, Green, Longman, Roberts, and Green,
1864-66.
Unless there is a much more recent edition, good luck finding it (and if
you find 2 copies -- let me know!) and it is a tad too early for an ISBN.
If you are neat a large library do look for it. It is great fun.
>>
Yeeeehaaa! Just on a whim, I did a search on the author's name, and found
a site at the Un. of Alberta library
(http://gate.library.ualberta.ca/MARION/AME-8994) that lists it---and says
that the one they have is a *1965* reprint of the original!
Then further searches indicated that the original is part of something
called "The Rolls Series" (? Whatever that is.......) and there is a link for
this listing on ORB On-line Referenence Book for Medieval Studies
(http://orb.rhodes.edu/online.html It's a great site--actually has some
links to period documents on-line!), that has this about the book:
. 3 vols. London, 1864-1866.
I.Herbarium of Apuleius, with its continuation from other writers, the
Medicina de quadrupedibus of Sextus Placitus, and various leech doms and
charms. II.Leech book, bks. 1-3. III.Recipes, prognostics, starcraft, and
charms, with glossaries; and Anglo-Saxon fragments relating to St. Mildred's
abbey in Minster in Thanet and King Eadger's establishment of monasteries.
It also lists the other sections in the book (Which for some reason
refuse to paste in :-(, but they include the Leechbooks which I'd love to
read!
I can see that I'll have to hit the ILL hard and heavy once Christmas
is over and I have time to think again. ;-) Thanks for the info!
Ldy Diana
[submitted by "Philippa Alderton" <phlip at bright.net>]
From: khkeeler <kkeeler at unlinfo.unl.edu>
To: herbalist at Ansteorra.ORG
Subject: Re: HERB - Begining Herbalism 101
Date: Oct 10, 1998 12:05 AM
Ghislaine Fontanneau wrote:
> I am Ghislaine Marie Fontanneau, lately of Ansteorra and recently of the
> Outlands. I've been learning a bit about herbalism mundanely, and now
> I'm itching to find period applications for what I've learned. Can
> ya'll recommend some good sources for herbalism pre-17th c.? I want to
> learn the herbalism that my persona would have known.
>
> Ghia
We made a pretty good list of authentic sources some time ago: did
anyone keep it? and, do we have a summary of on-line references?
Ghia, here's my overview of the situation (others please fix my
overstatements!)
Almost all of the period sources of Italian/French/German/English
tradition are retellings of the Dioscorides' _De Materia Medica_, Latin,
64 AD, out of print or available only in very expensive editions. But
that is what most period medical people used, in some form.
Culpeper's writings and Gerard's (both very end of Period) are
accessible--in print in various versions, some not too expensive. They
represent additions from the views of earlier times, but are essentially
period sources.
Macer "On the virtues of herbs" has a 1970's translation that I
believe is still in print and available (D.P. O'Hanlon translation,
"Macer's on the virtues of herbs" Hemkunt Press, New Delhi, available
through various New Age sources). This was a poem about 1200. The
information is largely from Dioscorides.
They used classical sources -- Galen, Pliny, Plato, Aristotle, Strabo
-- tho at least some of them were not widely available until late period
and so unknown although technically extant.
A different tradition comes out of the Moslem healers: they maintain
some of the classical sources better than the western Europeans, and are
more experimental. About 1000AD the mainline European tradition starts
to pick up Arab ideas -- the Tacunium Sanitatis is in print in at least
one form and represents the presentation of an Arab healing manual in
France and Italy. (Somebody said a Georges Brazillier (that's the
publisher) edition is available through Amazon.com)
Jewish medicine is quite separate, I think.
Dioscorides is southern European (Mediterranean) and the northern
Europeans had different plants available but in Period, the science
didn't understand regional differences in plants as far as I can tell.
There's almost certainly a separate tradition from the local people of
northern Europe but most of that was lost as Christianity took over.
For AngloSaxon herbals: many years ago Cockayne made a translation of
everything he could find, which is not in print in any widely accessible
form. That is a very weird mix of rewritings of Dioscorides, nonsense
(charms in pseudoLatin), and maybe some uniquely northern herbalism.
Culpeper in some editions has a section at the back on methods, the
best genuine how-to I know of.
Agnes
From: John Simutis <simutis at verio.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Renaissance chompie toys
Date: 22 May 1998 18:43:33 GMT
Organization: Verio Northern California's Usenet News Service
David Dendy <ddendy at silk.net> wrote:
: Just to toss in another item of trivia that has risen to the surface of my
: memory. Whole orris root used to be used, and was known as "teething root".
: Sorry, I can't remember where I read this; you'll just have to dig.
Couldn't find orris in it, but ran across
http://www.med.yale.edu/library/historical/culpeper/culpeper.htm
"Culpeper, Nicholas, 1616-1654.
The English physitian: or an astrologo-physical discourse of the vulgar
herbs of this nation.
London : Peter Cole, 1652.
8 p.l., 255 p. (i.e. 159 p.), [5] p., front. (port.)
Pages numbered 1-92, 189-255.
Harvey Cushing's copy.
This electronic version was prepared by Richard Siderits, M.D., and
colleagues by keying from the copy at the Historical Library,
Cushing/Whitney Medical Library, Yale University. Adaptation to HTML by
Toby Appel."
--
John Simutis simutis at ccnet.com
[Submitted by: "Philippa Alderton" <phlip at bright.net>]
From: khkeeler <kkeeler at unlinfo.unl.edu>
To: herbalist at Ansteorra.ORG
Subject: Re: HERB - Begining Herbalism 101
Date: 19 Oct 1998 12:05 AM
Ghislaine Fontanneau wrote:
>I've been lurking around, and now I'm ready to come out and show myself.
> I am Ghislaine Marie Fontanneau, lately of Ansteorra and recently of the
> Outlands. I've been learning a bit about herbalism mundanely, and now
> I'm itching to find period applications for what I've learned. Can
> ya'll recommend some good sources for herbalism pre-17th c.? I want to
> learn the herbalism that my persona would have known.
>
> Ghia
We made a pretty good list of authentic sources some time agodid
anyone keep it? and, do we have a summary of on-line references?
Ghia, here's my overview of the situation (others please fix my
overstatements!)
Almost all of the period sources of Italian/French/German/English
tradition are retellings of the Dioscorides' _De Materia Medica_, Latin,
64 AD, out of print or available only in very expensive editions. But
that is what most period medical people used, in some form.
Culpeper's writings and Gerard's (both very end of Period) are
accessible--in print in various versions, some not too expensive. They
represent additions from the views of earlier times, but are essentially
period sources.
Macer "On the virtues of herbs" has a 1970's translation that I
believe is still in print and available (D.P. O'Hanlon translation,
"Macer's on the virtues of herbs" Hemkunt Press, New Delhi, available
through various New Age sources). This was a poem about 1200. The
information is largely from Dioscorides.
They used classical sources -- Galen, Pliny, Plato, Aristotle, Strabo
-- tho at least some of them were not widely available until late period
and so unknown although technically extant.
A different tradition comes out of the Moslem healers: they maintain
some of the classical sources better than the western Europeans, and are
more experimental. About 1000AD the mainline European tradition starts
to pick up Arab ideas -- the Tacunium Sanitatis is in print in at least
one form and represents the presentation of an Arab healing manual in
France and Italy. (Somebody said a Georges Brazillier (that's the
publisher) edition is available through Amazon.com)
Jewish medicine is quite separate, I think.
Dioscorides is southern European (Mediterranean) and the northern
Europeans had different plants available but in Period, the science
didn't understand regional differences in plants as far as I can tell.
There's almost certainly a separate tradition from the local people of
northern Europe but most of that was lost as Christianity took over.
For AngloSaxon herbals: many years ago Cockayne made a translation of
everything he could find, which is not in print in any widely accessible
form. That is a very weird mix of rewritings of Dioscorides, nonsense
(charms in pseudoLatin), and maybe some uniquely northern herbalism.
Culpeper in some editions has a section at the back on methods, the best
genuine how-to I know of.
Cheers
Agnes
kkeeler1 at unl.edu
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:40:12 EST
From: WOLFMOMSCA at aol.com
Subject: Re: SC - Nerve Bisquits???
In a message dated 99-01-26 10:08:24 EST, Anne-Marie wrote:
<< our very own Leticia Troischiens does these "hildies nerve cookies" to
great reviews. She also admits she knows of no primary source documentatio
for them (and she's looked a lot). >>
They may be from _Hildegard von Bingen's Physica_. Newly translated into
English for the first time, available from Healing Arts Press, 1 Park St,
Rochester, VT 05767, at a cost of $25.00. Reviewed in the Feb/Mar Herb
Companion magazine. They had this to say:
"The text reveals nine systems of healing, each based on categories of natural
creation: Plants, Elements, Trees, Stones, Fish, Birds, Animals, Reptiles, and
Metals. Describing the attributes of each in terms of hot, cold, moist and
dry. Hildegard describes how to prepare and apply many different remedies,
what herbs and other materials to ignore, and what substances--dragon's
blood, for instance--are downright poisonous."
Wolfmom
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:15:12 -0600
From: Kathleen Keeler <kkeeler at unlinfo.unl.edu>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: Gerard's Herbal
Jenne Heise wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, rmhowe wrote:
> > Ingvild wrote:
> > > Gerard, John. "The Herbal." New York: Dover, 1975. (THE 17th century
> > > herbal, again in black-and-white. Still available from Dover, I believe, but
> > > rather pricey. You may want to get it through inter-library loan first.)
> > Seen it recently in hardback in the Bargain books section of a
> > Barnes and Noble for less than $10.
>
> *blink* are you sure? This is the 11x14, 4 inch thick version? Green
> binding? $80 from Barnes & Noble .com?
>
> I know there is a [Leaves from] Gerard's Herbal out there, which might
> well be remaindered.
>
> Jadwiga Zajaczkowa (Shire of Eisental; HERMS Cyclonus), mka Jennifer Heise
I own two editions of Gerard's herbal . The unabridged (cost about $100), and a
condensed version that has lots of detail removed. Like grasse: there are no
grasses described in my short form. I was given the latter a while ago, I think
it was printed in the '60's or before, and so there may be more modern printings
of shortened forms. Its not tiny: maybe 300 pages, but very much less than the
unabridged. This edition does not say clearly that it is not complete.
Perhaps Gerard in his lifetime issued some shorter tomes.
Agnes
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 06:01:15 -0800 (PST)
From: darkwater <darkwater9 at yahoo.com>
To: SCA Arts Listserve <SCA-ARTS at UKANS.EDU>
Subject: Gerard's 1633 Herbal
I have a copy of Gerard's Herbal. Mine is a complete reproduction of
the original down to size (~3 feet by 2 feet by 6 inches) to the
beautiful woodcuts, old english language and typeface, and the
misnumbered pages. The cover is green and white, the publisher is
Dover, the price tag was around $110 and I ordered it through the
local bookstore.
If you wish anymore information or details, email me privately at
darkwater9 at yahoo.com
Douglas
Elvegast, Windmaster's Hill, Atlantia
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:36:35 -0500
From: renfrow at skylands.net (Cindy Renfrow)
Subject: SC - Gerard's Herball
Hello! I've finally finished my page of culinary gleanings from Gerard's
Herball. Please visit. There are a lot of recipes & interesting tidbits
of information.
The page can be found at: http://members.aol.com/renfrowcm/gerardp1.html
(Note: this is a new url.)
Cindy Renfrow
renfrow at skylands.net
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:04:43 -0500
From: "Richard Kappler II" <rkappler at home.com>
Subject: SC - Index to Gerard's herbal
Having obtained her permission to do so, I would like to commend Lady
Temair, who is lurking amongst us, for a most magnificent piece of work.
Many of us use Gerards Herbal in our research of period cooking as well as
other 'crafts' we pursue within the Society. It is a cumbersome volume
though and I for one have found it difficult to use. Lady Temair has
compiled an index, a pair of them actually, that lists the contents of this
book both alphabetically and in ascending page number. I have found this
extremely helpful in my research and now refer to Gerards on an almost daily
basis as opposed to a reference of last, sometimes painful, resort (due only
to my own laziness ;-).
Thanks to Lord Eadric, this fine work is available on the web at:
http://users.ev1.net/~uisge/sca_brew/gerards.htm
VIVATS! and thank you Tara!
regards, Puck
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:51:00 -0500
From: "RANDALL DIAMOND" <ringofkings at mindspring.com>
Subject: SC - Re Gerard's Herbal
>>>>>From: Richard Keith <keith.78 at osu.edu>
Just got a copy of Gerald's herbal. Now I must get a permanent copy for
myself.<<<<
Did you get the full bells and whistles Dover edition (10 pounds or so
& $100) or just the little Dover abridged version?
>>>>Question: Are the Latin names he has given correct. IE, could I start
looking for modern plants my the family name?Subject: SC - Gerald's
Herbal<<<<
No, they are not at all accurate, or at least dependably accurate
in a consistant manner. Even contemporary taxonomy is still reclassifying
and renaming species and reassigning families. Any modern plant
book over 10 years old is partially obsolete. The old Herbals bounce
bad Latin and Greek all over the place and it is difficult sometimes to
figure out what plant they are naming. The illustrations are often the
only way to guess what they are talking about as they often are
describing non-existant amd imaginary species based on legend and
rumour.
>>>>Has anyone ever gone through and listed his multi lingual references to
things? Looks like a good project if it has not been done. Or looked up
what modern equivalents are.<<<<
I doubt that anyone has done so, as Gerard's command of other
languages was about as good as his Latin and Greek. In other words,
rather poor. If anyone has the credentials to do multiple translation
from 8-10 period languages and dialects (with a lot of misspelled or
inaccurate words in Gerard) into their modern idioms and then, from
there into modern English, I admire their intellectual capacity.
It is certainly beyond me. One must remember that Gerard
plagurized the bulk of the work in The Herbal from translations
of another work by another person. His scholastic credentials
are about as good as a modern person running a commercial
nursery and landscaping operation today. Approach Gerard
with caution as he introjects a great deal of popular hearsay into
his work. You probably need a fair amount of modern botanical
study to select the accurate from the false in The Herbal.
This is especially an essential credential for anyone trying
multi-lingual documentations from this source. A working
knowledge ofmodern botony would be essential to making the
outcome of the final analysis be of value.
Akim Yaroslavich
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:47:53 EDT
From: Acanthusbk at aol.com
Subject: Re: SC - Re Gerard's Herbal
The Dover facsimile of Gerard's Herbal is not out of print, nor is it close
to going out of print. Dover has a huge stockpile of these in inventory. See
http://www.acanthus-books.com/herorgenhiso.html
It's pretty horrifying to hear that Dover is referring customers to Amazon.
FYI, to those of you who buy books online, do yourself a favor and see
and
two search engines for online book shopping price comparisons. Jeff Bezos has
fooled consumers into thinking Amazon.com has everything available, at the
best price. Wrong on both counts. And speaking of scams, don't get me started
on Alibris.
Amanda
Acanthus Books
(A proud member of IOBA, the Independent Online Booksellers Association
Also see <http://www.noamazon.com>
and <http://nowebpatents.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:05:48 -0400
From: "Gaylin Walli" <gwalli at infoengine.com>
Subject: SC - Re: Gerard's Herbal
Lord Akim asked Lord Frederich:
>Did you get the full bells and whistles Dover edition (10 pounds or so
>& $100) or just the little Dover abridged version?
I think the bells and whistles edition weighs more than 10 pounds.
I know for a fact that a misbalanced copy can adequately flatten an
overweight cat when dropped from the height of a standard queen
sized mattress and boxspring. :)
Incidently, my copy only cost 60 dollars US including shipping
from Barnes and Noble online. Regrettably, not available at
their website at this time. However, copies do appear in a
quick search of the www.bookfinder.com site.
Frederich asked and Akim responded:
> >>>>Question: Are the Latin names he has given correct. IE, could I start
>looking for modern plants my the family name?Subject: SC - Gerald's
>Herbal<<<<
>
>No, they are not at all accurate, or at least dependably accurate