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Medieval drums and percussion instruments. Replacing bohdran drumheads. Painting drumheads. Dumbek merchants.

 

NOTE: See also the files: instruments-msg, harps-msg, p-songs-msg, music-bib, bagpipes-msg, flutes-msg, lea-tanning-msg, trumpets-msg.

 

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From: legowik at cme.nist.gov (Steven Legowik)

Date: 14 May 91 15:16:40 GMT

Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

 

Aoghann,

 

I'm not really a very musically inclined person, but I was doing a

little research on the history of the flute and stumbled across some

history on drums as well.  My lady is much more interested in them

than I was.

 

The general gist seems to be that drums were not used much in Europe

until very late period.  The drum was basically a middle eastern

instrument and was considered an oddity in Europe.  (which also seemed

to be the case with flutes and fifes) The first drums were the naker

and tabor.  I don't remember the dates but I think it was after 1300.

They were originally pretty much confined to military music.  (ie.

marching music) The tabor was a pretty generic looking drum (like

you'd see in a colonial fife and drum picture) and nakers were sort of

bowl shaped drums.

 

Drums got into the regular musical scene in the renaissance.  The

notes I have listed three drums as components of a renaissance band:

the long drum, the kettledrum, and the side drum.  (from Musical

Instruments of the World)  They appear to be pretty generic drums.

The side drum is drawn as having a square cross section.

 

The other book I was reading was "The History of Musical Instruments"

by Curt Sachs.  I hope I remembered the essential details correctly.

You might want to try and find the book in the library.

 

Hope this helps a little bit.

 

Stephen the Devious                     Steven Legowik

Shire of Highland Foorde                Frederick, MD

Atlantia                                legowik at cme.nist.gov

 

 

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Doumbek Rythym Guide

From: Eric.Smith-1 at kmail.ksc.nasa.gov (Eric C. Smith)

Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 13:24:50 -0500

Organization: NASA/KSC, DL-ICD-C

 

Unto all good folk of the Rialto does their humble servant, Maredudd ap

Cynan, send greetings.

 

It has been my honor and priviledge to create and have installed upon a

friends web server, a web page containing information which might be of

interest to those who play the doumbek.  The page contains, among other

things, a sheet of rythym notations.  The page is geared towards the

beginning drummer.

 

   http://greyhawkes.com/fun/drumming.html

 

[NOTE – This link has changed. The new link is: http://www.blackroot.org/drumming/drumming.html -Stefan 8/20/06]

 

The original version of this sheet was developed by myself as a handout

for a couple of classes I tought at a few Trimarian events, the subject of

the class being the Basics of Doumbek Playing.  I encourage all doumbek

players, of all skill levels, to visit the page and send me your comments.

 

Diolch

 

Maredudd

--

Eric C. Smith                  Maredudd Cymysglyd ap Cynan

NASA/DL-ICD-C                  Kingdom of Trimaris

KSC,  FL 32899                 Shire Starhaven

Eric.Smith-1 at ksc.nasa.gov      maredudd at blackroot.org    

 

 

From: boris at magick.net (Samuel C. Crowell)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Bohdran skin replacement

Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 01:44:14 GMT

 

        Could any good gentles out there be able and willing to assist an

aspiring musician?

 

        I was given a Coopersmith (non-tunable) bohdran with a split/cracked

drumhead.  I was able to get a goatskin drumhead. Removing the old

one was not too difficult, but I would like some advice about

preparing/stretching/affixing this new skin so that it will not be

ruined, and hopefully will be somewhere close to the proper tone.

        Any help greatly appreciated!

 

Master Darien Tevarson

 

 

From: cav at bnr.ca (Rick Cavasin)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Bohdran skin replacement

Date: 16 Oct 1996 14:59:12 GMT

Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

 

Master Darien Tevarson asks about bodhran skin replacement:

 

This is something that is fairly tricky to get right.  I

once did this for a friend (I make parchment/vellum for

callig/illum/bookbinding/etc., but the skins can also be used

for drumheads/banjos/etc.) whose bodhran head had split.

I asked a number of people with more experience for advice,

and I mostly got a lot of vague handwaving, and concluded

that it is one of those things that one develops a nack for

by trial and error.

 

You pretty much have to put the skin on wet.  Assuming you

have a prepared/dried skin on hand, you want to soak it

(don't use hot water) until it is limp and stretchy.  You

then have to tack it to the rim  with enough slack that when

the hide contracts on drying, it has the right tension. As

you might guess, this is the 'art' part of it.  Too loose,

and you'll have ripples in the skin.  Too tight, and the tone

will be too high.  Unfortunately, I have a very strong suspicion

that how much a particular skin contracts on drying will have

alot to do with how it was originally prepared by the parchmenter.

This would mean that your technique might have to change somewhat

depending on the source of the skin.

 

Things to remember:

Parchment/skin can generate a remarkable amount of tension when

drying.  You want to make sure the heads of your nails are snug

down on the skin.  If only the shafts are holding the skin in

place, the skin could tear as it pulls out from under the nails.

Reinforcing the edge may not be a bad idea.

 

Clenching the nails is probably a good idea.  I've seen a skin

pull nails out of the rim.  Glueing the skin over the frame in

addition to nailing may not be a bad idea.  

 

I suspect that allowing the skin to dry slowly is a good idea

(keeping in mind that the skin *IS* rawhide, and *will* rot if

kept damp for a prolonged period of time).

 

All this should be taken with a grain of salt, as my experience is

more in making the skins than in putting them on drums.  I put a

skin on one drum, and had to take it off and put it back on several

times (over the course of a year or so) before I got it more or

less right.  

 

I had a more experienced luthier claim that anointing the skin with

neatsfoot oil makes it less sensitive to humidity variations.  YMMV

 

Hope this helps,

Cheers, Rick/Balderik

 

 

From: mittle at panix.com (Arval d'Espas Nord)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Bohdran skin replacement

Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:02:44 -0400

Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC

 

>       I was given a Coopersmith (non-tunable) bohdran with a split/cracked

> drumhead.  I was able to get a goatskin drumhead. Removing the old

> one was not too difficult, but I would like some advice about

> preparing/stretching/affixing this new skin so that it will not be

> ruined, and hopefully will be somewhere close to the proper tone.

 

You can find some information on the Bodhran Page

 

        http://www.panix.com/~mittle/bodhran

 

including articles on making bodhrans which should give you what you need.

===========================================================================

Arval d'Espas Nord                                         mittle at panix.com

 

 

Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:20:05 -0400 (EDT)

From: Carol at Small Churl Books <scbooks at neca.com>

To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu

Subject: Re: Painting on hide drums

 

At 09:13 AM 7/8/97 -0700, you wrote:

>If I use an acrylic paint, will it flake off?

 

There is a laurel in the East who painted bohrans (sp?) as part of her

husband's business.  She uses acylics, sometimes slightly thinned with water.  

 

Following her advice, I painted a figure based on the Book of Kells on one.

(Took the warrior, put a woman's head and skirt on from another figure, and

made the shield and spear into a bohran and wooden thumper.)

 

A friend let me practice on an old bongo.  After painting, I scraped the

paint with my fingernail and it seemed pretty firm.

 

Lady Carllein

 

 

Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:25:19 -0400 (EDT)

From: Varju at aol.com

To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu

Subject: Re: Painting on hide drums

 

<<I have been asked to help a friend of mine paint some designs on a hide

drum that he just received.>>

 

If you mean rawhide, when you say hide drum there are several items you can

use.  Acrylic paint works well, so do leather dyes, but the color of the

rawhide will affect the color of the dye. (The darker the rawhide the darker

the final color will be.)  You can also use sharpie markers.

 

Noemi

 

 

Subject: Re: ANST - Drums

Date: Fri, 12 Dec 97 17:40:54 MST

From: jurgens at ghg.net (Frank D. Jurgens)

 

>Could someone please tell me how to keep a drum that you  are carving from

>drying out and cracking before you finish carving?

>

>*George*

>House Crane Minister of Food-[have YOU eaten?]

 

If you are carving this from a peice of uncured lumber, try putting it in a

sealed bag with a damp towel.  This should keep the moisture content up

until you are done.  Make sure that the bag is big enough so that when set

aside, the towel and the drum do not touch.  Basically, keeping it in any

sealed container with a source of moisture will work.

 

If you are using uncured (green) wood, you will have a problem with it

cracking as it dries out after you are finished. Depending on the

orientation of the grain, it may also deform out of shape.

 

Leofric Ealdricson

 

(Frank Jurgens

jurgens at ghg.net)

 

 

Subject: Re: ANST - Drums

Date: Fri, 12 Dec 97 18:46:11 MST

From: sucram3 at juno.com (marc d mckeeman)

To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG

 

On Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:25:42 -0600 lliatwork <lliatwork at MCIONE.com> writes:

>Could someone please tell me how to keep a drum that you  are carving

>from drying out and cracking before you finish carving?

 

First offf what kind of wood are you using?

 

I have found using linseed oil while the carving is being done, helps

keep the wood from drying and spliting.

 

again it depends on the wood.

apprentice to Master Edward D'Orleans. (peace be unto his name)

mu'sad

translater to the light of the land

Omar ciam

 

 

Subject: RE: ANST - Drums

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 97 11:25:14 MST

From: John Ruble <ulf at urocor.com>

To: "'ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG'" <ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG>

 

>Could someone please tell me how to keep a drum that you  are carving from

>drying out and cracking before you finish carving?

 

Linseed oil helps, but will alter the characteristics of the wood when

you go to carve it.  It penetrates the wood at different depths

depending upon how long you left the oil on before wiping off the

excess, as well as how "open" the wood is.  As it cures, it hardens.  So

after a day or two, you will discover the wood is slightly harder to

carve near the surface, but still soft underneath.  Be careful with your

knife pressure.  Remember also that treating the wood with anything will

alter its ability to take stain.

 

The best bet is always to start with sound, well-cured wood.  At the

very least, try to keep the piece in a controlled environment so it

doesn't swell and shrink repeatedly with humidity changes.

 

Ulf Gunnarsson

 

 

Subject: Re: ANST - mustering at gulf wars

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 01:52:36 MST

From: Charlene Charette <charlene at flash.net>

To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG

 

Keith Hood wrote:

> Speaking of the sound of an army, for real moral effect in a march to the

> battlefield we could use a serious war song.  Anyone out there with a

> good knowledge of period music have suggestions?

 

Don't know about war songs, but Arbeau (the French dance manual) is almost

half military drumming instruction.

 

--Perronnelle

 

 

From: Arval d'Espas Nord <mittle at panix2.panix.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Drums

Date: 18 Mar 1998 22:58:42 GMT

Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC

 

James Ackerson <jamesa at uwyo.edu> wrote:

> I want to get my wife a bodran, bodrahn...however you spell it.  I was

> just wondering if anyone out there would have some advice on where to

> look, what to look for, and how to avoid not so good instruments.

 

Visit my Bodhran Page, http://celtic.stanford.edu/instruments/bodhran/

 

      Arval

 

 

From: armorbug at aol.com (ARMORBUG)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Drums

Date: 19 Mar 1998 04:30:53 GMT

 

>I want to get my wife a bodran, bodrahn...however you spell it.  I was

>just wondering if anyone out there would have some advice on where to

>look, what to look for, and how to avoid not so good instruments.

>

>Roderick

 

Lark in the Morning, a company that specializes in hard to find instruments,

has a webpage at http://www.larkinam.com.  They have several models to choose

from, starting at $25.00 and going up to $400.00.  

 

 

From: Arval d'Espas Nord <mittle at panix2.panix.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Drums

Date: 19 Mar 1998 16:38:56 GMT

Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC

 

> Lark in the Morning, a company that specializes in hard to find instruments,

> has a webpage at http://www.larkinam.com.  They have several models to choose

> from, starting at $25.00 and going up to $400.00.  

 

If you want to order a drum by mail, Lark in the Morning is not a bad

company to use.  And if you are a new bodhranist who needs a drum to learn

on, this isn't a bad way to go.  MidEast Manufacturing is another good

choice.  

 

At any higher level, you really want to examine and play any drum before you

buy it, and you want to deal directly with the drum-maker.

 

    Arval

 

 

From: Dwight Hall <dwihall at ix.netcom.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Drums

Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:45:11 -0700

 

>I want to get my wife a bodran, bodrahn...however you spell it.  I was

>just wondering if anyone out there would have some advice on where to

>look, what to look for, and how to avoid not so good instruments.

 

try ftp://celtic.stanford.edu/pub/instruments/Bodhran.making

 

Since this is one of the easiest of all drum designs to build yourself,

why not get right into the "authenticity mode" with a great

do-it-yourself project.  Hardwood should cost about 8 bucks and you can

get a full goatskin at Tandy Leather for $24 or so.

 

 

From: David Korup <drumfest at bellsouth.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

To: Shawn Johnson <shawnjoh at uoguelph.ca>

Subject: Re: Natural Drum Heads Needed

 

Shawn Johnson wrote:

> I'm looking to purchase some natural drum heads (goatskin, calfskin) for

> a product I'm developing.  I need the cheapest wholesale price I can

> find, so that I can keep the price of the product down.  The prepared

> skins need not be of the best quality.

>

> -Robyn Whystler

 

Shalom Alechem, Greetings from Sir Daveed Shmuel ben Rachon:

 

I would suggest that you contact Mid-East Manufacturing for prices on

goatskin drum heads. They can accommodate drums heads ranging in size

from standard 12" to 14" on up to perhaps 22". Here is their basic

contact info.

 

Mid-East Manufacturing, 7694 Progress Circle, West Melbourne, Fl 32904;

407-724-1477, fax: 407-952-1080; web site: www.mid-east.com;

email: stevek at mid-east.com

 

Should you need larger sizes, you can contact Mr. Polanski at United

Rawhide in Chicago, 773-276-1177. He can provide goat, kip, calf, as

well as other types of animal rawhide.

 

I hope that this is helpful for you. Are you making dumbeks? Please

contact me via my email: drumfest at bellsouth.net or by phone at

704-544-2212. I am always interested in hearing about new drum makers

and their drums.

 

Until later...Alechem Shalom...Daveed

 

 

From: druid at princeton.crosswinds.net (The Well of Latis)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Natural Drum Heads Needed

Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 23:32:55 GMT

 

<sunshinegirl at steward-net.com> wrote:

 

>Tandy Leather used to sell me rawhide at a good discount.  Of course, I had

>to cut out the drum heads myself.  They had split hides that were fairly

>nice, regular hides, and goatskin.

>Melandra of the Woods

>

>Shawn Johnson <shawnjoh at uoguelph.ca> wrote

>>

>> I'm looking to purchase some natural drum heads (goatskin, calfskin) for

>> a product I'm developing.  I need the cheapest wholesale price I can

>> find, so that I can keep the price of the product down.  The prepared

>> skins need not be of the best quality.

>>

>> -Robyn Whystler

 

I have used large rawhide bones from the local pet shop a few times.

They work fairly well if you soak them in hot water for a few hours

and unroll them.

 

Sparrow (Alex)

 

 

Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:18:25 EDT

From: freyja1 at juno.com (Timothy A Whitcomb)

To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu

Subject: Re: Doumbek making

 

>Does anyone know of a resource for making doumbek's.I can figure out by

>looking at them how to throw one but I wonder if the sound changes from

>clay body to clay body.

 

[I would certainly think so. Since the density of clay can vary from type

to tpe, that would have an effect; much like the diffrence between metal

and wood drum bodies. Maturing range of the clays would have a difference

too.]

 

I usually throw with stoneware.

>More importantly how does one attach the head?

 

[The nicest ceramic drum I have ever seen had clay lugs (very sturdy!!)

around the body and the head was lashed down. The worst was glued on.]

 

>I have seen them made with the inside glazed and not glazed. Does it

>make a difference?

 

[Again, I would think so, but experiment. I am sure you would want to

make more than one anyway, just to attain mastery of the form.]

 

>Tegan

 

Hroar

 

 

From: Larry Johnson <ljohnsn1 at idt.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Rope Tension Drums

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:56:14 -0800

 

stevega at earthlink.net wrote:

> Does anyone have any advice, or url links, on stretching the skin (drum head)

> on a medieval or Renaissance marching drum.  I am trying to make my first

> "period" drum.  I enjoyed the fighting at Estrella, but I think we needed

> more drums!

 

I went to a search engine, http://www.excite.com and entered "making+rope+

tensioned+drum and found this URL http://www.bongocentral.com/rope.htm

I know the drums represented on the site are not period, but rope tension is

rope tension, you can adapt the method for your own drum.

 

Yours aye,

Labhran MacIain

 

 

From: "Steve Gurzler" <macsen at worldnet.att.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Rope Tension Drums

Date: 25 Feb 1999 02:42:47 GMT

Organization: Compaq

 

Greetings Tristan,

 

You might try looking at the Dover pubication "Orchesography" in which

Arbeau has a chapter on drums and construction.  There are also I believe

drum kits available through the Early music shop in England.  They have a

web site but I don't have it here.  Good luck.

 

You should play it for dancing too!   :)

 

Cheers,

Deonna

 

 

From: "Jason L. Parish" <jlparish at montana.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: bodhran question

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:16:51 -0700

 

Lee Ann Schemel wrote:

> i am curious about the Bodhran, is it hard to play, I am not very

> musical, but I like drums, I was thinking about buying a kiddie one from

> Lark in the Morning and starting to practice on my own.  Any suggestios

> would be appereciated, you may e-mail me too.

>

> Eibhlin

 

Lord Morgan Glynndwr, humble denizen of the Kingdom of Artemesia:

 

    Greetings!  I have played the Bodhran for a few years now and I think

you will find it to be quite easy to learn the basics.  Even without a

musical backround you will find that the drum itself will help you

learn...they are just too addictive to put down!

    I would suggest, however, that instead of purchasing the kiddie models

you should spend the extra cash and buy a high-quality, natural goat-skin

head model.  Also, if you enjoy the deeper tone that the Bodhran produces,

you should try to find one that is at least 16 to 18 inches in diameter or

greater.

    There are a number of books available that are great resources for

trying to learn.  One of the better booklets that I have found is entitled

"Power Bodhran Techniques".  The name of the author eludes me at the moment

but you should be able to track it down with relative ease.  To hear the

Bodhran in use, try any of the Chieftains albums or most any other good

Celtic music groups.  And, invariably, you will usually find one or two

Bodhran players at any good size event who will be more than happy to assist

you in your playing.

 

 

From: mittle at panix.com (Arval d'Espas Nord)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: bodhran question

Date: 24 Mar 2000 16:02:40 -0500

Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC

 

> i am curious about the Bodhran, is it hard to play, I am not very

> musical, but I like drums

 

Drop by my Bodhran Page, http://www.ceolas.org/instruments/bodhran.

 

At the risk of disappointing you, I must warn you that just about

everything about modern bodhran playing is purely modern.  Drums of the

same basic construction may have existed in period Ireland (or may not),

but as best I've been able to determine, the styles of play used today were

all invented in the 20th century.

 

But don't let that discourage you: It's a lovely instrument when played

well, and well worth the effort it takes to learn to do so.

===========================================================================

Arval d'Espas Nord                                         mittle at panix.com

 

 

From: Barbara Webb <b.h.webb at stir.ac.uk>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: bodhran question

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:16:34 +0100

Organization: Psychology Department, Stirling University

 

Lee Ann Schemel wrote:

> As I told Arval who also Replied, My persona does not want

> to play the harp, don't want to lug a harp around.  

 

I'm not sure why you drew the conclusion from Arval's pointing

out that current bodhran technique is modern (and not, as far as we

know, medieval) that he was suggesting you'd have to play harp

instead...Drums are certainly medieval- maybe finding out some of

whats and hows of medieval drumming would be of interest? The only

references I know are:

 

Blades, James.  Early percussion instruments : from the Middle Ages to

the Baroque / James Blades and Jeremy Montagu.  1976

 

Montagu, Jeremy.  Making early percussion instruments.  1976

 

I'd be interested if anyone can suggest further sources, particularly

any that discuss technique rather than just construction (Montagu

is not very inspiring in his suggestions of what rhythms to play).

 

By all means go ahead and enjoy modern bodhran playing too...

 

Caitlin de Courcy

 

(As a harpist I find a bit bizarre the concept that my 'persona'

might want or not want to play the harp - maybe I should tell my

persona that if it wants to play harp, it can do the practice?)

 

 

From: mittle at panix.com (Arval d'Espas Nord)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: bodhran question

Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:24:23 -0500

Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC

 

Thanks for your courtesy Eibhlin.  No apology was necessary, no offense was

taken.  

 

> I really do not think there is a wrong way to play a bodhran is there?

 

Badly?  Seriously: There are techniques that work well and ones that don't.

Unfortunately, we simply don't know how the drum was played (if it was

played at all) in medieval Ireland.  The earliest evidence of any kind that

I've seen of the bodhran is a late 19th century photograph of an

Irish-American ceili band.  The drummer is holding his tipper in roughly

the way I would if I were standing ready to play; but we can't conclude

much from that.  This photo was startling: I had previously believed that

the introduction of the bodhran into performance music came only in the

mid-20th century.  I still think it is probably true that it was mostly

used as a noise-maker before this century.

 

If you're interested in medieval percussion, there are plenty of

possibilities better-documented than the bodhran.  The book recommended

here a few days ago would be a good starting point.

===========================================================================

Arval d'Espas Nord                                         mittle at panix.com

 

 

From: Dana Lewis Hawkes <danad at tidepool.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Snare drums

Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:00:44 -0700

 

Malachias Invictus wrote:

> What period did snare drums come into use?  I figure that it is not within

> the SCA period, but I was curious if anyone happens to know.

>

> Malachias

 

Actually, I have a book called 'Making Early Percussion Instruments' by Jeremy

Montagu in which he talks about some tabors and nakers having a gut snare.

 

 

From: Josh Mittleman <mittle at panix.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Snare drums

Date: 4 Apr 2000 15:10:27 GMT

Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC

 

> What period did snare drums come into use?  I figure that it is not within

> the SCA period, but I was curious if anyone happens to know.

 

Oh, absolutely within period.  Certainly by the 14th or 15th century in

Italy and France.  I'd guess that it's much earlier.  The early examples

I've seen seem to have a single strand of gut stretched across the _upper_

side of the drumhead.

 

     Arval

 

 

From: Nils K Hammer <nh0g+ at andrew.cmu.edu>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Snare drums

Date: Tue,  4 Apr 2000 16:15:12 -0400

Organization: Csd Education - Phd, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

 

I assumed they were modern, but then someone showed me a picture in the

Orchesography book with them.

 

nils

 

 

From: mittle at panix.com (Arval d'Espas Nord)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Bodhran Purchasing

Date: 7 Apr 2000 13:04:07 -0400

Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC

 

> Does anyone know of a reliable online or mail order source that

> provides high quality bodhrans?

 

There's a list of pretty nearly all the major bodhran makers and vendors at

my Bodhran page, http://www.ceolas.org/instruments/bodhran/.  The

information there will give you an idea of what's available and how much it

costs.  What you want to buy and how much you'll need to pay will depend on

just what you mean by "high quality".  For a professional-quality, tunable

bodhran, expect to spend $400.  Anything under $100 is a toy, perhaps good

for a novice to use to learn to play.  In between, quality varies

unpredictably.  If you'd like me to recommend a few drummakers, drop me a

line direct.

===========================================================================

Arval d'Espas Nord                                         mittle at panix.com

 

 

From: "Kensei" <harpbard at nospam.2xtreme.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Bodhran Purchasing

Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 08:30:29 GMT

 

ulric <ulricthefoxNOulSPAM at onebox.com.invalid> wrote:

> All of this discussion of Bodhrans has really stoked my desire

> to go out and buy one.

>

> Does anyone know of a reliable online or mail order source that

> provides high quality bodhrans?

>

> I have looked on E-Bay, but there really is no telling what

> those drums sounds like or what the quality of construction is

> like.

 

Try http://www.larkinam.com/MenComNet/Business/Retail/Larknet/Bodhrans

Quite a selection, their 18" diameter double row tacks BOD006 $60.00, has a

good full deep sound and good quality - but you can go up to $450 for a

profesional model if you chose.

 

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