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Norse and Viking archery. Norse longbows.

 

NOTE: See also the files: Norse-msg, Norse-food-art, books-Norse-msg, Norse-crafts-bib, amber-buying-art, Norse-games-art, archery-msg, bow-making-msg, arrows-msg.

 

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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:42:04 MST

From: "C. L. Ward" <gunnora at bga.com>

Subject: Re: Viking bow plans

To: gll at inreach.com

CC: "Mark.S Harris (rsve60)" <rsve60 at email.sps.mot.com>

 

Michael Lykinsg wrote:

> I am looking for plans for viking period bow.  Thank you.

> Michael Lykins  gll at inreach.com

 

The Vikings used longbows.  The bow was used both for hunting meat and for

hunting men.  Saxo Grammaticus described the Norwegians as "famous bowmen."

Icelanders, on the other hand, apparently did not use the bow much at all.

 

Longbows were probably the most common type of bow, but one find has turned

up a composite bow from Norway strengthened with iron bands.  Like other

weapons, bows could be ornamented, and examples are known of bows with

engraved runes, and others with carved knotwork designs.=20

 

There are a wide variety of Viking Age arrow head types, some for fowling,

deer hunting, warfare, and other specialized uses.  Arrow heads were

typically iron, and could be tanged or socketed.  The typical arrowhead was

leaf-shaped, but arrow heads could be barbed (kr=F3kr), blunt, or even

trefoil in cross section, sporting three cutting blades. The typical

quiver was cylindrical, worn on a baldric and hung at the hip.  These were

fairly large quivers, and examples have been found holding up to 45 arrows.

Arrowheads are one of the most common weapons finds in men's graves, and

are often found in women's graves as well.

 

Though I don't have time to go dig up all my sources documenting the use of

bows in the Viking Age, there is a famous anecdote about a warrior standing

on deck with his king during a sea battle.  He is struck in the chest by an

arrow, and when he pulls it out he says, "See how well the king keeps his

men!  There is fat by my heart!" right before he dies.

 

Another famous tale is that of the man who made the fatal mistake of

slapping his wife.  Later, when his enemies have cornered him in his home,

he is able to hold the attackers off by means of his superlative

marksmanship.  That is, until his bowstring broke.  He then cried to his

wife to plait him a new bowstring of her hair, but she refuses, bidding him

to remember that last slap he gave her.

 

There is also a theme of magical archery found in association with accounts

of seir, where wizards are seen to be able to shoot multiple arrows at one

time, often from their bare fingertips. They never run out of arrows, or

the arrows return to the sender to be used again, and often the magical

archer of this type cannot miss his mark.

 

Some sources that mention Viking archery and archery equipment include:

 

Peter G. Foote and David M. Wilson, The Viking Achievement.  London:

Sidgwick & Jackson, 1970.  pp. 181, 278

 

Johannes Brndsted, The Vikings.  New York: Penguin.  1960, 1965. pp. 123.

 

cc: Lord Stefan li Rous

 

::GUNNORA::

The Viking Answer Lady

 

 

To: Norsefolk at yahoogroups.com

Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 03:44:38 -0000

From: baronboar at yahoo.com

Subject: Viking bows

 

I don't believe you can characterize Viking bows into any one type.  

Yes, some have been found that are similar to the English longbow

(without the horn string nocks), but there were others that were of

different design.  I don't believe there was a standardization of

type in the Viking Age, as occurred later in England, as evidenced by

the bows found on the Mary Rose. There may have been local styles, or

even some widely accepted styles, but different types coexisted.

 

Some of the first bows found in Scandinavia were with the Nydam ship.

These bows were pictured in "The Viking Age" by DuChaillu in 1889.  

Though no cross sections are shown, the two bows illustrated on page

228 appear to have a round cross-section.  Using the scale on the

plate to determine the length, they were around six feet long.  The

Nydam ship has recently been dated by dendrochronology to 310 - 320

AD. - obviously before the Viking Age.  

 

However, they show characteristics that are also found on Viking age

bows.  One such characteristic is the nail in one end of the bow to

keep the string from sliding down the bow when it is unstrung.  

 

These same two bows and another bow are also described in Proceedings

of the Prehistoric Society for 1963, New Series, vol. XXIX, Clark, J.

G.D., ed.  The third bow illustrated has a roughly D-shaped

crossection.

 

The Ballinderry bow was found in Ireland, and dates to the 10th

Century.  It is believed to be Norse because of the related items

found in the dwelling.  It is described in great detail in "The Bow:

Some Notes on its Origin and Development", by Gad Rausing.  It was 73

inches long with a D-shaped cross section in the middle, which became

more oval toward the ends.

 

More recent work on the subject of bows in Scandinavia can be found

in "Bue Og Pil  Fra Danmarks Sten-, Bronze- og Jernalder" (Bows and

Arrows from the Stoneage, Bronzeage and Ironage in Danmark), by Dan

Hoj.  He illustrates many scandinavian bows and arrows.  I do not

have a copy of his book, only a few pages that the author sent me.  

It looks to be an excellent book.  It is in Danish, but the author is

attempting to find a publisher to translate the book into English.  I

have ordering information if anyone is interested.

 

The most recent (1999) work on Viking bows is "Pfeil und Bogen in

Haithabu"  (Arrows and Bows in Hedeby) in "Das Archaologische

Fundmaterial VI".  This is in German and is difficult to obtain. It

took me over a year to find a copy.  There are only two copies in the

US to my knowledge. It has both photographs and line drawings of the

bows found in Hedeby. They are around 6' long (one measured 75

inches - 191 cm) and have various cross sections.  They do not

necessarily have the same type of crossection throughout the length

of the bow.  The most interesting aspect of these bows is that they

have the last few inches of the bow bent backward toward the archer

(Dan Hoj has informed me this is accomplished by immersing the tip in

boiling water)!  The string is attached below this bend.  On the top

of the bow, there is only one notch cut in the side of the bow.  On

many of the bows there is a nail a few inches below the notch to

catch the string when the bow is unstrung.  There is no notch on the

other limb of the bow.  The string was apparently tied in place so

that the majority of the knotwork was on the backward bending part of

the limb, with the string attached just at the bend.  These bows

appear to be roughly circular in crossection.  Some that had a D-

shaped crossection became more oval near the ends of the limbs.

 

That this bow design was somewhat widespread is evidenced by an

illumination on an English manuscript from the eleventh century that

shows a similarily shaped bow.

 

This publication also has photographs and descriptions of

reproduction bows and arrows and their performance.

 

Arrows and arrow points are illustrated in most of these books.  Du

Chaillu states that the arrows from the Nydam ship were four fetched.

The reproduction arrows found in "Pfeil und Bogen in Haithabu" are

three fletch.

 

As to quivers, DuChaillu describes and illustrates a wooden quiver,

roughly circular in crossection.  A leather quiver (actually parts of

at lest two different quvers) is described in "Die Lederfunde von

Haithabu" and a drawing shows how the quiver may have looked.

 

I hope this has been of some interest and help.

 

Ragnar

 

 

To: Norsefolk at yahoogroups.com

Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 03:44:38 -0000

From: baronboar at yahoo.com

Subject: Viking bows

 

I don't believe you can characterize Viking bows into any one type.  

Yes, some have been found that are similar to the English longbow

(without the horn string nocks), but there were others that were of

different design.  I don't believe there was a standardization of

type in the Viking Age, as occurred later in England, as evidenced by

the bows found on the Mary Rose. There may have been local styles, or

even some widely accepted styles, but different types coexisted.

 

Some of the first bows found in Scandinavia were with the Nydam ship.

These bows were pictured in "The Viking Age" by DuChaillu in 1889.  

Though no cross sections are shown, the two bows illustrated on page

228 appear to have a round cross-section.  Using the scale on the

plate to determine the length, they were around six feet long.  The

Nydam ship has recently been dated by dendrochronology to 310 - 320

AD. - obviously before the Viking Age.  

 

However, they show characteristics that are also found on Viking age

bows.  One such characteristic is the nail in one end of the bow to

keep the string from sliding down the bow when it is unstrung.  

 

These same two bows and another bow are also described in Proceedings

of the Prehistoric Society for 1963, New Series, vol. XXIX, Clark, J.

G.D., ed.  The third bow illustrated has a roughly D-shaped

crossection.

 

The Ballinderry bow was found in Ireland, and dates to the 10th

Century.  It is believed to be Norse because of the related items

found in the dwelling.  It is described in great detail in "The Bow:

Some Notes on its Origin and Development", by Gad Rausing.  It was 73

inches long with a D-shaped cross section in the middle, which became

more oval toward the ends.

 

More recent work on the subject of bows in Scandinavia can be found

in "Bue Og Pil  Fra Danmarks Sten-, Bronze- og Jernalder" (Bows and

Arrows from the Stoneage, Bronzeage and Ironage in Danmark), by Dan

Hoj.  He illustrates many scandinavian bows and arrows.  I do not

have a copy of his book, only a few pages that the author sent me.  

It looks to be an excellent book.  It is in Danish, but the author is

attempting to find a publisher to translate the book into English.  I

have ordering information if anyone is interested.

 

The most recent (1999) work on Viking bows is "Pfeil und Bogen in

Haithabu"  (Arrows and Bows in Hedeby) in "Das Archaologische

Fundmaterial VI".  This is in German and is difficult to obtain. It

took me over a year to find a copy.  There are only two copies in the

US to my knowledge. It has both photographs and line drawings of the

bows found in Hedeby. They are around 6' long (one measured 75

inches - 191 cm) and have various cross sections.  They do not

necessarily have the same type of crossection throughout the length

of the bow.  The most interesting aspect of these bows is that they

have the last few inches of the bow bent backward toward the archer

(Dan Hoj has informed me this is accomplished by immersing the tip in

boiling water)!  The string is attached below this bend.  On the top

of the bow, there is only one notch cut in the side of the bow.  On

many of the bows there is a nail a few inches below the notch to

catch the string when the bow is unstrung.  There is no notch on the

other limb of the bow.  The string was apparently tied in place so

that the majority of the knotwork was on the backward bending part of

the limb, with the string attached just at the bend.  These bows

appear to be roughly circular in crossection.  Some that had a D-

shaped crossection became more oval near the ends of the limbs.

 

That this bow design was somewhat widespread is evidenced by an

illumination on an English manuscript from the eleventh century that

shows a similarily shaped bow.

 

This publication also has photographs and descriptions of

reproduction bows and arrows and their performance.

 

Arrows and arrow points are illustrated in most of these books.  Du

Chaillu states that the arrows from the Nydam ship were four fetched.

The reproduction arrows found in "Pfeil und Bogen in Haithabu" are

three fletch.

 

As to quivers, DuChaillu describes and illustrates a wooden quiver,

roughly circular in crossection.  A leather quiver (actually parts of

at lest two different quvers) is described in "Die Lederfunde von

Haithabu" and a drawing shows how the quiver may have looked.

 

I hope this has been of some interest and help.

 

Ragnar

 

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