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Peer-Fear-art - 1/23/05


Two articles posted to various SCA mail lists. The first on "Peer Fear" and the second on "Associate Training".


[If anyone knows who the original authors are for these two pieces, I'd love to be able to give them credit for their work. Please email me. - Stefan]


NOTE: See also the files: SCA-dishes-art, humor-msg, jokes-msg, Rock-Crystal-art, Cooking-Piggy-art, Joan-of-Arc-art, Otto-T-Great-art, War-o-t-Roses-art, arms-humor-msg.





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    Mark S. Harris                  AKA:  THLord Stefan li Rous

                                          Stefan at florilegium.org



From: phlip at 99main.com

Subject: [spca-wascaerfrig] Fw: [trimaris-temp] Peer Fear

Date: July 14, 2004 8:57:11 PM CDT

To: spca-wascaerfrig at yahoogroups.com


Thought you guys might enjoy this, if you haven't seen it before ;-)



Pear Fear


Peer Fear is a terrible affliction in this club and so unnecessary! Getting

to know Peers in their natural habitat, like on the list field, is fine,but

there are other ways. Peers can be anywhere and everywhere, so when

approaching an unfamiliar Peer it is best to keep a few general rules in

mind. Remember they may be more afraid of you than you are of them! Although

frightening from a distance, these magnificent creatures domesticate easily

and can make very rewarding companions.


1) When approaching a Peer, do so from the front. Walk slowly. Peers startle

easily, particularly Roses, and you don't want to set them to flight.


2) Distract them. It may help more skittish Peers, like Laurels, if you

begin by letting them examine a sleeve hem or a work in progress. Show a

Knight a new weapon or anything shiny.


3) Speak softly and use encouraging language and flattery. They may not

understand everything you say, but they will respond to the tone of your

voice. Avoid excessive bragging or arm waving. Rarer Peers, like Pelicans,

can be easily intimidated by overt displays of passion. Laurels or Knights

can become competitive or agitated and may charge.


4) Offer them food or drink. Many Peers can become cranky when sitting

through long meetings, Courts or performing arduous tasks of A&S or service.

Food or alcoholic beverages will often make them more placid and with a

little work many Peers can become tame enough to take food directly from

your hand. Remember to keep the food soft and easy to chew. Many Peers are

old and dependant on Squires or Apprentices to cut their meat.


5) Approach them in groups. Peers tend to travel in clusters and can become

anxious when cut from their herd. When approaching a flock of Pelicans or a

pride of Knights, be careful to include all the Peers generally. Avoid

singling out one Peer with direct eye contact and never turn your back on

the rest of the group. While not meant maliciously, many separated and

startled Peers can accidentally trample you in an effort to rejoin their



6) Wear your Apprentice, Protˇgˇ or Squires belt. Let the Peer examine the

belt or touch it. Many Peers feel more comfortable knowing another Peer has

been there before them.


If you follow all these guidelines, anyone can form a  lasting and

meaningful relationship with a Peer. With proper maintenance, a Peer can be

a faithful and loving companion and friend.


Fight the fear. Hug a Peer!


Saint Phlip,




From: phlip at 99main.com

Subject: Re: [spca-wascaerfrig] Fw: [trimaris-temp] Peer Fear

Date: July 15, 2004 8:48:33 PM CDT

To: spca-wascaerfrig at yahoogroups.com



Oh my, oh my.


Do you know who the original author is? I'm thinking about adding this

to the Florilegium, but  I'd really like to give credit to the author.





No- haven't any idea. Apparently it's been all over the Peer and Dependent

nets, and someone, a Trimaran Peer, answered it with the following:


Associate Training


House Training


To properly housebreak your Associate you will need a crate.  Choose a crate

that the Associate can easily turn around in.  Never leave the Associate in

the crate more than about 4 hours unless it is over night and the Associate

will be sleeping.  The Associate will learn that the crate is its den and

will not go to the bathroom while he is inside.  When the Associate is not

in the crate you must keep a close eye on him and let him outside often to

go to the bathroom. If the Associate has an accident in the house scold him

and immediately take him outside.  If he goes to the bathroom outside,

profusely praise him for the accomplishment.  Over time he will learn that

outside is the only appropriate place to go to the bathroom.




Socializing your Associate can be a delicate process.  If he is exposed to

the wrong kinds of people or animals it could have long lasting negative

effect on the Associate.  In the beginning you can invites friends or family

over to play with the Associate to slowly get him used to people other than

yourself.  Also exposing him to older Associates or Associates that are very

mellow and non-threatening are also good.  Once he has gotten used to that

take him to a park where there are other Associates and people.  For the

first few days stand far away from the other people and Associates and just

let your Associate observe them.  Then you can slowly introduce him.  It is

important that you regularly expose him to other Associates and people or he

will lose social attitude.




An Associate may chew on things for a variety of reasons.  He could be

teething, bored, nervous or trying to attract attention.  Most Associates

grow out of their chewing phase but can do a lot of damage while doing so.

The first thing you want to do is not give him the opportunity to chew on

your things.  This means that whenever you are not home he is either outside

or in his crate.  When you do catch him chewing on something inappropriate

scold him and give him a proper chew toy.  When you see him playing with a

chew toy praise him. It will take time and patience but the Associate

should begin to learn what things are appropriate to chew on and what are

not.  You may need to switch his toys around often so he does not get bored

with them and lose interest.


Stop an Associate's Biting


An Associate's biting is a normal part of the maturing process that he will

eventually grow out of.  However you must help the Associate grow out of

this behavior.  For the solution to this problem we will use tried and true

techniques.  When your Associate bites you hard enough to hurt make a high

pitched yelping sound, loud enough to startle the Associate.  If he does it

again yelp once more but then show your teeth and make a growling sound,

then get up and walk away while ignoring his attempts to play with you.  The

Associate should learn quickly that biting is inappropriate behavior.


Someone else made a comment that apparently Someone had been spending too

much time in obedience class...


Saint Phlip,



[If anyone knows who the original authors are for these two pieces, I'd love to be able to give them credit for their work. Please email me. - Stefan]


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