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rugs-msg - 3/19/03


Period rugs and carpets.


NOTE: See also the files: tapestries-msg, decor-sources-msg, piled-fabrics-msg, looms-msg, textiles-msg.





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From: "Rowanwald Central" <rowanwald at sybercom.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Arraiolos Rugs

Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:30:19 -0400


   I'm trying to find examples of Arraiolos rugs from the 16th or 17th

century and am coming up against a wall. I think I may be too far "out of

the loop" to know _where_ to look.


   According to "Portuguese Needlework Rugs" by Patricia Stone, these rugs

date to our period of study and are quick and easy to create. I'd like to

find sufficient documentation to justify encouraging artisans to begin

crafting them - they're beautiful and transportable and have the advantage

of being easy enough to craft that a person can make one for their pavilion

in record time - but I can't find anything beyond Ms. Stone's book on the

subject, except for kits and later pieces offered by antique dealers. I

don't want to introduce another craft that is "documentably marginal". I

have ILL requests out for the books she cites in her bibliography, but can't

believe that there's nothing archived on the Internet about the subject.





From: Charlene Charette <charlene at flash.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Arraiolos Rugs

Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:04:14 GMT


Rowanwald Central wrote:

>    I'm trying to find examples of Arraiolos rugs from the 16th or 17th

> century and am coming up against a wall. I think I may be too far "out of

> the loop" to know _where_ to look.


New Stitches magazine had an article on them awhile ago (within the last

2 years?).  You might contact them to see what information they can

provide.  They're very helpful.





From: ekscholar at aol.com (EKScholar)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Date: 10 Apr 2001 20:43:10 GMT

Subject: Re: Arraiolos Rugs


Oh.  You found that book too?


1) the stitch (long armed cross stitch) is documentable. Someone correct me,

but I believe it's in "Traditional Icelandic Embroidery" by Else Gudjonsson

(sp?) as pre-Reformation in Iceland, which makes it 16th century or earlier.

It was used in altar frontals (sometimes re-made from bed valances).

I can't give any further specifics because my copy of the book is currently

being digested by the House.  


You might not be able to find anything in the books in her bibliography, but I

can suggest the following:


"Designs for Needlepoint and Latch Hook Rugs" by Dorothy Kaestner.  One of the

designs is for a rug copied from "Oriental Rugs in the Metropolitan Musem of

Art" by M. S. Dimand & Jean Mailey.  The original dates to the first quarter of

the 17th century.  I don't know if the original was tufted, woven or

embroidered, but the motifs should be near period.  I would recommend against

making the full rug listed.


"Color Treasury of Rugs & Tapestries from East and West" (Crescent books, no

author)  does not have any patterns, but there are numerous color plates, with

sufficent detail to chart from.


Best of luck.


richild la gauchere

(not a laurel)



From: "ruadh" <ruadh at home.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Foltaki Rug...was: Arraiolos Rugs

Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:50:29 GMT


"Faireday" <faireday at aol.com> wrote

> If you have any sucess finding the info, please share it.  I would love to

> learn to make period rugs.  


> Mariot


Not hard to make, my flotaki is now ~29 yrs old. I made it while living in

Rhodos, Greece. In period time, it would have been part of the "measure of a

person's worth".  This one is 1.5m x 2m in size and about 5 Kg and green;

its been camping for most of those years [ floor of tent, bed pad, cover

over . . etc] . Spinning the yarns needs to be very fuzzy to create the

felted back side that protects the tabby weave [~10 tpi] of the rug base.

Tying on the "Shag" is with the knot still so common with oriental rug [ or

fake it with latch hook style]. The shag spacing should be about one index

finger, and length = the height of a fist. Period processing after assembly,

is to raise the nap [ use wire brush] and hand rub a solid felting on the

back side [use the fuzz of the weave].  Then put into moving water and let

that action "full" the shag material. A short water fall is what I used.

It looks likes a sheep skin fleece when freshly cleaned. Could this have

been the real "Golden Fleece" of Greek early history ? Its strong enough !




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