rugs-msg - 5/26/10
Period rugs and carpets.
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:23:18 -0700
From: "Jennifer Hill" <jhill at elko.net>
To: <sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: Re: Rug construction
Dear Lady Deirdre: The one book that is the standard is: An Illustrated
Guide to Making Oriental Rugs by Gordon W. Scott, Pacific Search Press,
copyright 1984.
It explains how to make & set up a proper rug loom & what tools are
necessary & how to use them.
For patterns one may wish to look at a needlepoint book
Oriental Carpets in Miniature by Frank M. Cooper, c 1994, Interweave Press.
These are actual Oriental Carpet patterns reduced for use in needlepoint.
Someday, I hope to make a Rug - yes, that is a rug w/ a capital R!! When
one is lucky to make an inch or two a day, I think it qualifies. <G>
Additionally, one of the issues of Weaver's has an article on a very
accomplished lady who makes Oriental Rugs. I don't recall which issue it is
in & I sold my library when I sold the loom - bad move! However, the
Complex Weavers association/group has an extensive library. It would be
worth joining just to have access to the library. Gwen
Good luck. Gwen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lady Deirdre" <deirdre1114 at hotmail.com>
> I am the Minister of Arts and Sciences for my canton, and a while back I
> someone asked me if I knew of any sources for Middle Eastern rug
> construction. If anyone has any information about this subject and could
> point me to any useful links, books, etc. that I could forward on to him I
> would appreciate it. Thank you very much!
>
> Lady Deirdre ingen Muiredach
> mka Abby Carr
> Minister of Arts & Sciences
> Canton of Elvegast
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:48:46 -0700
From: "Jennifer Hill" <jhill at elko.net>
To: <sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: on line oriental rug course
http://www.a2zcarpet.com/course/index.htm
There is a free demo for the course, but to take the whole course, one must
pay the fee. It looks thorough & well thought out. Gwen
Gwen verch Rhys of Gwynedd, the fumble-fingered
From: "Rowanwald Central" <rowanwald at sybercom.net>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Arraiolos Rugs
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:30:19 -0400
I'm trying to find examples of Arraiolos rugs from the 16th or 17th
century and am coming up against a wall. I think I may be too far "out of
the loop" to know _where_ to look.
According to "Portuguese Needlework Rugs" by Patricia Stone, these rugs
date to our period of study and are quick and easy to create. I'd like to
find sufficient documentation to justify encouraging artisans to begin
crafting them - they're beautiful and transportable and have the advantage
of being easy enough to craft that a person can make one for their pavilion
in record time - but I can't find anything beyond Ms. Stone's book on the
subject, except for kits and later pieces offered by antique dealers. I
don't want to introduce another craft that is "documentably marginal". I
have ILL requests out for the books she cites in her bibliography, but can't
believe that there's nothing archived on the Internet about the subject.
Rosine
From: Charlene Charette <charlene at flash.net>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Arraiolos Rugs
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:04:14 GMT
Rowanwald Central wrote:
> I'm trying to find examples of Arraiolos rugs from the 16th or 17th
> century and am coming up against a wall. I think I may be too far "out of
> the loop" to know _where_ to look.
New Stitches magazine had an article on them awhile ago (within the last
2 years?). You might contact them to see what information they can
provide. They're very helpful.
--Perronnelle
From: ekscholar at aol.com (EKScholar)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Date: 10 Apr 2001 20:43:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Arraiolos Rugs
Oh. You found that book too?
1) the stitch (long armed cross stitch) is documentable. Someone correct me,
but I believe it's in "Traditional Icelandic Embroidery" by Else Gudjonsson
(sp?) as pre-Reformation in Iceland, which makes it 16th century or earlier.
It was used in altar frontals (sometimes re-made from bed valances).
I can't give any further specifics because my copy of the book is currently
being digested by the House.
You might not be able to find anything in the books in her bibliography, but I
can suggest the following:
"Designs for Needlepoint and Latch Hook Rugs" by Dorothy Kaestner. One of the
designs is for a rug copied from "Oriental Rugs in the Metropolitan Musem of
Art" by M. S. Dimand & Jean Mailey. The original dates to the first quarter of
the 17th century. I don't know if the original was tufted, woven or
embroidered, but the motifs should be near period. I would recommend against
making the full rug listed.
"Color Treasury of Rugs & Tapestries from East and West" (Crescent books, no
author) does not have any patterns, but there are numerous color plates, with
sufficent detail to chart from.
Best of luck.
richild la gauchere
(not a laurel)
From: "ruadh" <ruadh at home.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Foltaki Rug...was: Arraiolos Rugs
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:50:29 GMT
"Faireday" <faireday at aol.com> wrote
> If you have any sucess finding the info, please share it. I would love to
> learn to make period rugs.
>
> Mariot
Not hard to make, my flotaki is now ~29 yrs old. I made it while living in
Rhodos, Greece. In period time, it would have been part of the "measure of a
person's worth". This one is 1.5m x 2m in size and about 5 Kg and green;
its been camping for most of those years [ floor of tent, bed pad, cover
over . . etc] . Spinning the yarns needs to be very fuzzy to create the
felted back side that protects the tabby weave [~10 tpi] of the rug base.
Tying on the "Shag" is with the knot still so common with oriental rug [ or
fake it with latch hook style]. The shag spacing should be about one index
finger, and length = the height of a fist. Period processing after assembly,
is to raise the nap [ use wire brush] and hand rub a solid felting on the
back side [use the fuzz of the weave]. Then put into moving water and let
that action "full" the shag material. A short water fall is what I used.
It looks likes a sheep skin fleece when freshly cleaned. Could this have
been the real "Golden Fleece" of Greek early history ? Its strong enough !
O'Gaul-lee
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:13:22 -0500
From: Johnna Holloway <johnnae at mac.com>
To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: [Sca-cooks] Threads on canvas
The latest issue of the Saudi Aramco World magazine arrived today.
It contains an interesting article titled Threads on Canvas which examines
the use of Oriental carpets in 16th century artworks by artists such
as Holbein.
The article contains information and images of table carpets which
people might find interesting.
The article is online at:
http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/201001/threads.on.canvas.htm
Johnnae
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