heraldry-tips-msg - 9/28/95 ਀ഊSCA heraldry for cultures that didn't have heraldry. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: heraldry-msg, heraldry-bks-msg, Herald-Embro-art, banners-msg, mottoes1-msg, arms-humor-msg, Voice-Herldry-art. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀椀琀琀氀攀 愀琀 眀愀琀猀漀渀⸀椀戀洀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䄀爀瘀愀氀 搀✀䔀猀瀀愀猀 一漀爀搀⤀ഊSubject: Re: Heraldry for Vikings ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㐀㨀㔀㔀㨀 㐀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: IBM T.J. Watson Research ਀ഊGreetings from Arval! Alrik asked: ਀ഊ> I seek some help creating appropriate heraldry for my persona. The ਀㸀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀 椀搀攀愀 椀昀 ㄀ 琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 嘀椀欀椀渀最猀 攀瘀攀渀 栀愀瘀攀 栀攀爀愀氀搀爀礀ഊ> to speak of. ਀ഊThey didn't. Armory is generally considered to have arisen in northwestern ਀䘀爀愀渀挀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 ㄀㄀㔀 ⸀  䤀✀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 最攀渀琀氀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 瀀爀攀ⴀ栀攀爀愀氀搀椀挀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀 琀攀渀搀ഊto choose one of three approaches: ਀ഊ1) Don't use armory at all. Using armory is historically incorrect for ਀礀漀甀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀Ⰰ 猀漀 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 瀀甀琀 礀漀甀爀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀 椀渀琀漀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 洀漀爀攀ഊappropriate. If there were other kinds of identifying insignia in use in ਀礀漀甀爀 挀甀氀琀甀爀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 漀爀 洀愀礀 渀漀琀 挀栀漀漀猀攀 琀漀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀㈀⤀ 䐀攀猀椀最渀 愀爀洀漀爀礀 眀栀椀挀栀 氀漀漀欀猀 氀椀欀攀 愀渀 椀渀猀椀最渀椀愀 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀 琀漀 礀漀甀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀⸀ഊIn many pre-heraldic cultures, shields and banners were decorated in ਀瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 眀愀礀猀㬀 洀愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 挀愀渀 戀攀 愀搀愀瀀琀攀搀 愀猀 愀爀洀漀爀礀 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀 搀漀甀戀氀攀ഊpurpose. ਀ഊ3) Accept the style in the culture of the SCA. If you think of the ਀吀栀椀爀琀攀攀渀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀猀 愀 猀琀爀愀渀最攀 昀漀爀攀椀最渀 氀愀渀搀 琀漀 眀栀椀挀栀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀攀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀ഊit makes perfect sense to adapt yourself to the customs of this land, no ਀洀愀琀琀攀爀 栀漀眀 漀搀搀 琀栀攀礀 洀愀礀 猀攀攀洀⸀  吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 愀爀洀漀爀椀愀氀 猀琀礀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 椀猀ഊ13th-14th century Anglo-French. ਀ഊAny of these options is reasonable; your choice depends on how you think ਀愀戀漀甀琀 礀漀甀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀 栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀 攀氀攀洀攀渀琀猀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 爀攀ⴀ挀爀攀愀琀攀⸀ഊ ਀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀ഊArval d'Espas Nord mittle at watson.ibm.com ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ栀攀爀愀氀搀爀礀ⴀ琀椀瀀猀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 ㈀ 漀昀 ㈀ഊ ਊ