arms-humor-msg - 2/14/01 Humorous SCA heraldry. NOTE: See also the files: heraldry-msg, heraldry-bks-msg, heraldry-tips-msg, mottoes1-msg, banners-msg, flags-art. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ From: gray at ibis.cs.umass.edu (Lyle Gray) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Amusing Arms (was Re: Urban Legends) Date: 23 Aug 1994 12:28:19 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Univ. of Mass., Amherst, MA Nigel Haslock (haslock at oleum.zso.dec.com) wrote: : Greetings from Fiacha [deletia] : Find Andrew Mac Robb (perpure and or, a keyhole counterchanged, sometimes : called the purple people eater)... Ah, yes, the "per pale peephole heater". ;-) Why not use this as a starting point for a thread on arms that have interesting second meanings, both SCA and medieval? For instance, does anyone know the arms of the SCA branch Coeur d'Ennui? Lyle FitzWilliam ------------------------------------------------------ NON ANIMAM CONTINE Lyle H. Gray Internet (personal): gray at cs.umass.edu Quodata Corporation Phone: (203) 728-6777, FAX: (203) 247-0249 From: UDSD073 at DSIBM.OKLADOT.STATE.OK.US (Mike Andrews) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Amusing Arms (was Re: Urban Legends) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 13:36 Organization: The University of Oklahoma (USA) moore at mari.acc.stolaf.edu (Michael Moore) writes: >Coeur d'Ennui (Heart of Boredom) has a device with seven or so Boar's heads >in a circle. (Boar-Ring) Isn't their war cry: "Boar-Ring!"? -- Michael Fenwick of Fotheringhay, O.L. (Mike Andrews) Namron, Ansteorra Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: Nate Schroeder Subject: Re: Amusing Arms Organization: Monsanto Company Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 22:25:02 GMT > Coeur d'Ennui (Heart of Boredom) has a device with seven or so Boar's heads > in a circle. (Boar-Ring) Eight, I think, but yes. > Rumor was once that a certain Lord Finn was planning to have arms of > ten nooses.. Jarl Finn (now that he has been knighted, and prefers > the prenomen more appropriate to his persona) supposedly never passed > the arms, but if he had... > > Sir Finn, with the device "Hang Ten"... Beautiful! Also: Friar Bertram: a bear's head couped, = Fire Bear-Trim. Also: William Coeur do Boeuf (+ RIP +): , a fess between an elm tree and and eye, all Or = Fess;Elm;Eye Or = Fesselmeyer, his mundane name. Another I have heard of: a cross of St. James between two manacles in pale = (reading from top down) Bond; James, Bond. My own arms: = a bear herald in heaven = the herald of bear's heaven. --Another source of good name puns was Three Rivers's annual Feast of Changelings, where everyone came to the feast as a parody of someone else, or some other amusing persona: Fernando in a Hawaiian shirt being Surfin' Kelly (Sir Finn Kelly); Odo dressed in purple with white diagonal stripes, being Purple Freddy ("everyone knows Three Rivers has a Purple Fretty"); Olga, then our herald, wearing wings and a halo and a nametag "Hello my name is...HARK" (no, she didn't sing); Cormac O'Sullivan and Andrew of Seldomrest coming as each other (Andrew had to kneel to make the heights right).... Harald of Bears'Haven From: nexus at ylum.cgd.ucar.edu (Jeff Berry) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Amusing Arms Date: 25 Aug 1994 15:49:43 GMT Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO Well, my arms, passed when I was young and foolish (not too long ago actually), are: Per pale wavy, purpure and argent, a serpent glissant argent, and a wolf rampant sable. Those who knew my musical predilections rapidly determined that what I have is: Whitesnake on Deep Purple (especially amusing to those who know the history of the two groups) and on Argent, a Steppin' Wolf. badger Don Alexandre Lerot d'Avigne Jeff Berry Caer Galen, Outlands nexus at ncar.ucar.edu From: Maryanne.Bartlett at f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Maryanne Bartlett) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Amusing Arms Date: Thu, 01 Sep 1994 02:10:00 -0800 -=> Quoting Nate Schroeder to All <=- NS> My own arms: proper holding a trumpet Or, under a chief wavy Azure> = a bear herald NS> in heaven = the herald of bear's heaven. My Lord's arms have a pear in the charge and our mundane name is Bartlett. His name is Loren (no pun here) Shadwydpere (shadow-pear, the pear is on an eclipsed sun) O'Moerlande (say it slowly, he does mechanical sheep!) --Anja-- From: BKFLYNN at email.unc.edu (Brian Flynn) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Amusing Arms Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 08:21:13 Organization: University of North Carolina David Mann writes: >>Why not use this as a starting point for a thread on arms that have >>interesting second meanings, both SCA and medieval? {humorous Swamp Castle story removed} My barony of WINDMASTER's HILL, Atlantia was orginally eastern NC, the site of the Wright brother's first flight. For those who might be history-impaired, the hill/sand dune where this took place is Kitty Hawk. Surprisingly enough, the device of the barony is a winged domestic cat - a cross between a kitty and a hawk.... But then, that was in early AS something or another (9? 10?), when you could easily get away with that sort of thing. Uther From: mittle at panix.com (Arval d'Espas Nord) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Seeking a gentle.... Date: 22 Feb 1996 14:08:40 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC > > > > Does anyone know how to get in touch with one Baron Pog O'Mahon, > > > > > Is he REALLY called that? > > > > Yup, and he means it, too. > > Did he get it past the College of Heralds? It would be just TOOOOO funny > if that were the case. No, we all knew exactly what he meant. But Alisoun MacCoul, bless her weird little heart, helped him registered "Pagan Mahon". And his arms are "Vert, a donkey's head erased controuny Or holding in its mouth a bezant." The bezant is properly drawn diapered with small black speckles. =========================================================================== Arval d'Espas Nord mittle at panix.com From: bjm10 at cornell.edu (Bryan J. Maloney) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Seeking a gentle.... Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:33:44 -0400 Organization: Cornell University ghita at MCS.COM (Susan Earley) wrote: > I don't get it. *sigh* "pogue mahon" is Irish for "kiss my ass". It seems that the estimable's device features a donkey with a cloved lemon... From: kolton at arizona.edU (Jason Kolton) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: YKYITSCAW... Date: 15 Jun 1996 09:39:35 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona I'm sure that this is an SCA folktale but hey. who knows. I did hear about a device that made it to kingdom level before it was rejected because the heralds wife noticed what it was while reading over his shoulder. You'll pardon if my heraldy terms are poor. It was something like 'a field argent with a yellow lozenge centered. A black stag rampant upun the lozange' Again I apologize for my poor heraldry term usage (i'm still learning). Basically a deer crossing sign. Lord Jason Thorne Kingdom of Atenveldt From: HAROLD.FELD at hq.doe.GOV (HAROLD.FELD) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Amusing arms trivia (was: Middle Broke Away?) Date: 5 Jul 1996 11:54:02 -0400 Greetings from Yaakov: I had writ: :This, I am told, is how the dragon got on the Middle's :arms, being a reference to China (The Chinese Word for China :literally translates as "Middle Kingdom"- as it lies between Heaven :and Earth). Sion replied: >Ah, but did they tell you that the dragon was originally a Chinese >dragon? It was still the legitimate form of the dragon used on >things Midrealmish when I joined in '77. I had heard that, but wasn't sure enough to post it. I find the resolution amusing (a western dragon is on the Midrealm's arms because it replaced the Oriental dragon because of a bad pun). It minds me of my favorite story of Carolingia's arms. Carolingia's arms were originally supposed to contain griffons, but they were too damn hard to draw, so they droped. Later, Carolingia named its principle herald the Griffon Herald after the griffons that were dropped because they were too damn hard to draw. Yaakov From: Cynthia Virtue Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Names/Devices for sale (Was: Irish name for a Newbie) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:24:36 -0700 >Know anyone who might like to be 'Arable Halfacre'? >It's another splendidly period name that I can't seem to unload. Add to that list a device which I ultimately did not decide to use; free to the first one that wants it: , three porpoises (dolphins, actually, since apparently they are the same heraldically) each holding in their beaks a sprig of thyme, in chief three loaves of bread. In other words: a Thyme for Every Porpoise Under Leaven. --- Lady Cynthia du Pre Argent, Minister of Silly Hats, Crosston From: medievalbk at aol.com (Medievalbk) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: VERY early heraldic humor Date: 11 Dec 1996 20:13:54 GMT This pre-dates the SCA by a good many years. A very good many years. The book, The Heraldry of Nature, does not appear in any bibliography of heraldry books. It is a book of humor, or more correctly humour. Printed in 1775, it gives the correct natural blazon to heraldic arms, rather than those that are patented bearings. Remember, it's 1795 The King: Arms. First, argent, a cradle proper; second, gules, a rod, and sceptre, transverse ways; third, azure, five cups and balls proper; fourth, gules, the sun eclips'd proper; fifth, argent, a stag's head between three jockey caps; sixth, or, a house in ruins. Supporters. The dexter, Solomon treading on his crown; the sinister, a jack-ass proper. Crest. Britannia in despair. Motto. Neque tangunt levia "Little things don't move me." So don't complain about the antics of the Society's heralds---it's a long and well established tradition. Vilyehm the Merchant medievalbk at aol.com Subject: RE: ANST - Fighting awards? Date: Thu, 25 Feb 99 14:15:13 MST From: "Weiszbrod, Barbara Ann (Barbara)** CTR **" To: "'ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG'" > Alys said: > "Award of the Sable Thistle: .... Holders of the Sable Thistle are > entitled to wear a medallion or pin bearing the badge of the award: A blue > thistle sable, slipped and leaved Or." > Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the Sable Thistle is designated as > a 'Sable' Thistle, as in Black (Sable), not Blue Thistle. > Bn. Hillary Greenslade Westgate "Blue Thistle" is the species of thistle. When you go and look at a thistle, it's top is blue (actually kind of a lavender), but the blazon calls out for the "blue thisle" to be depicted "sable" (black). Confusing enough? My favorite blazon is "an ermin, or, maintaining and oar, ermin". Isn't heraldry fun? Alys. To: SPCA From: margali Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 03:51:15 -0500 Subject: [spca-wascaerfrig] [Fwd: using a name when.... (WARNING: Some X-Rated Content; LONG)] This off the rialto.. Who says that people in the SCA don't have a sense of humor!!! margali "Brian M. Scott" wrote: > On 1 Dec 2000 15:35:15 -0500, ianengle at gcfn.org (Ian Andrew Engle) wrote: > [...] > > One of the times I made it to KWHS, Talan had a paper in the > >proceedings with a whole list of hilarious, period names. Personally, I > >liked "Atte Ghirl" best. > > Just for fun, here's the last April Fool Letter of Intent that I > produced before I stopped commenting in the SCA CoA. There are a few > in-jokes and some X-rated names, but most of it should be > understandable. All of the name element documentation is solid, and > so far as I know all of the names are internally consistent. And this > is pretty much what a well-done real LoI looks like, save that the > emblazons have been omitted. > > Talan > > * * * * * * * * > > CUBIC ZIRCONIUM HERALD SUPERNUMERARY > > Satanus Lucifer > (Brian M. Scott) > E-mail: scott at math.csuohio.edu > > 1 April 1997 > > Baron Satanus Lucifer alias Cubic Zirconium unto Mistress Argentina > Snayl alias Argent Snail and all others these present letters seeing > or hearing gives Greeting! > > It is the intention of the Exiguous College of Heralds to desire that > the names and armories hereunto appended be given all the > consideration that they may severally and collectively deserve. > [Editorial Note: That's the intention; what these barmy ECOH-freaks > actually desire is anybody's guess. To judge by some of the > saltire-rated names, they're out to offend everyone whose mind isn't > already in the gutter.] In the matter of emblazons for this LoI, the > College has more than lived up to its name: there aren't any. We do > not believe that this will cause anyone undue difficulty. Argent > Snail and her crew will enjoy having fewer papers to shuffle. Name > commenters won't be distracted by the funny pictures. And we are > confident that Brachet will see as clearly as always any visual > conflicts that we may have overlooked. > > 1. Ace Doublet new name and device > > Paly and per fess argent and azure. > > According to Black Dove's summary in the 1996 KWHS > proceedings, two of the entries in the 1292 Paris Census are Maistre > Ace and Doublet le toillier. > > 2. Bathe Dayly new name and badge > > A bath tub argent within and conjoined to an annulet sable. > > Bardsley s.n. Bate has Bathe fil. Robert 1273; Reaney & Wilson > s.n. Doyley have Henry Dayly 1279. > > The bath tub is an unusual charge that can be found in the > PicDic s.n. Tub. The conjunction of a bathtub and a dark ring is a > well-known motif. > > 3. Boo de Hoo new name and device > > Or gutty de larmes, an owl gules. > > DGP s.n. Ho cites Otto de Hoo 1360; ibid. s.n. Gotøl cites Boo > Gotøøl 1440. > > 4. Cattle Calle new name > > Reaney & Wilson s.n. Cattel have Cattle Bagge 1279; ibid. s.n. > Calle have John Calle 1279. > > 5. Clonia Gemella new name and device > > Vert, a bar gemel between two sheep statant gardant argent > dimidiating vert, a bar gemel between two sheep statant gardant > contourny argent. > > Solin & Salomies list the masculine forms of both the > gentilicium (57) and the cognomen (338); Withycombe (xx) mentions that > at some time after the formation of the Roman empire, women used the > paternal gentilicium and cognomen in their feminine forms. In view of > the lady's apparent origin, we did not feel that she was properly > subject to the prohibition against marshalled arms. > > 6. Clonia Gemella - Like Wise alternate name and badge > > Azure, a two-headed melusine in her vanities argent. > > DGP s.nn. Fet, Wis has Like Vet 1428 and Jeppe Wise 1428. > > The unusual charge (and blazon) seemed a pleasant ... conceit. > > 7. Cunrat Fuckir new name > > Bahlow (1965, 146) has Cunrat v. Cracow der mouwerer 1383; > ibid. (79) has Nickel Fuckir 1355, Mertt Fukcher 1414, from Late > Middle High German fucker `shears for shearing sheep' (attested 1367). > It was only with great difficulty that we talked him into registering > the full form of the forename; he normally uses the very common > hypocoristic form seen in Cuntz der Küntzel 1382 (Bahlow 1985 s.n. > Kün(t)scher). > > 8. Cuss Althewerld new name > > Reaney & Wilson s.n. Cust have Cuss Balla 1279, from Custance > or Constance. Robert Althewerld appears in the returns from Bicker(!) > in the 1327 Lincolnshire Lay Subsidy. > > 9. Dandy Dringlebell new name > > Bardsley s.n. Dandy has Dandy (no byname) 20 Edward I > (1291-2); Richard Dringlebell appears in the returns from Empingham in > the 1296 Rutland Lay Subsidy. > > 10. Dyot Coke new name > > Reaney & Wilson s.n. Dyett have Dyot 1332. William Coke > appears in the returns for Surfleet in the 1327 Lincolnshire Lay > Subsidy. This lady was just made a Pelican for her exemplary service: > as the scroll says, `She is a rare younge woman and a wise, most apt > to anye matter whatsoeuer, which hauing taken in hand, she maketh to > goe alwaies better'. > > 11. Ermina Ernym new name and device > > Counter-ermine, an ermine passant ermine. > > Bardsley s.n. Hardwick has Ermina de Herdwych 1273; Thomas > Ermyn appears in the returns for Leake in the 1327 Lincolnshire Lay > Subsidy. > > The charge is period: DBA II (295) gives Sable, a chevron > ermine between three weasels passant argent for Olyver Byrtwyssyl > under the heading Chevron between 3 ermines. (The substitution of > weasel for ermine in the blazon is evidently for the sake of the > cant.) > > 12. Fairman Foulman new name > > Bardsley s.n. Firmin has Fairman Alberd 1306. William Foulman > appears in the returns for Whaplode in the 1327 Lincolnshire Lay > Subsidy. Fair is foul, and foul is fair, and he's evidently a man for > all seasons. > > 13. Frigidia Neglecta new name > > Solin & Salomies list the masculine form of the gentilicium > (82) and the feminine cognomen (367). Withycombe (xx) mentions that > at some time after the formation of the Roman empire, women used the > paternal gentilicium and cognomen in their feminine forms. > > 14. Jaelle of Armida - Argentina Snayl alternate name (name reg. > 7/84) > > Reaney & Wilson s.n. Argentine have Argentina (no byname) > 1258. John Snayl appears in the returns for Leake in the 1327 > Lincolnshire Lay Subsidy. (She's very fortunate that under the rules > personal names don't conflict with heraldic titles.) > > 15. Jaelle of Armida - Market Mode alternate name (name reg. > 7/84) > > DGP s.nn. Bokholt, Miøth has Market Bokholt 1448 and Clawes > Mode 1420. We understand that once she's given it a good workout, the > submitter plans to transfer this name to the SCA for the use of the > Queens and Princesses of the Known World at Pennsic. > > 16. Jeep Dung new name > > DGP s.nn. Bing, Dung has Jeep Bing 1472 and Peder Dung 1492. > (Some commenters may be amused to learn that his modern name is > William Mauldin.) > > 17. Lille Tyke new name > > DGP s.nn. Litle, Puder has Lille Olæff 1406, and Tyke Puter > 1402. Lille is a byname `little' that may be placed before the given > name, as in the example cited. This submission was initiated two > years ago about the time the `submitter' was born. We tried to talk > his parents out of their folly, but at their insistence we have > finally agreed to send the name to Laurel. > > 18. Lille Tyke - Tyke Messemaker alternate name > > DGP s.nn. Mestmaker, Puder has Martinus Messemaker 1379-1428 > and Tyke Puter 1402. This submission has been under way for only > about a year. Since we've agreed to forward the primary name, we > can't in good conscience delay this one any longer. > > 19. Lille Tyke - Byting Brat alternate name > > SMP s.n. Byting has Byting Pædhersson 1417; DGP s.n. Brat has > Nis Brat 1483. The combination of Swedish forename and Danish byname > ought not to be too problematic. This is a new submission: the child > just turned two. > > 20. Litle Bo Peep new name and device > > Argent semy of sheep argent, a crozier and in base a roundel > sable. > > DGP s.n. Litle has Litlæ Erik 1416, Bo Lille 1410, Lillæ Nissæ > Bywy 1412, and Jepp Litle 1447. The first citation shows a preposed > byname and a spelling close to the submitted one; the second supports > the forename; the third shows both a preposed and a postposed byname; > and the fourth shows the submitted spelling of the first byname. > Ibid. s.n. Pep has Jørgen Peep 1460 and Andreas Martins dictus Pææp > 1394. > > We fear that Laurel will feel compelled to modify the blazon > of the field, but we prefer to use the submitter's blazon for the sake > of the excellent cant. > > 21. Lollia Popa new name and device > > Argent, a gurges gules. > > Solin & Salomies have the masculine form of the gentilicium > (165) and the feminine cognomen (381). Withycombe (xx) mentions that > at some time after the formation of the Roman empire, women used the > paternal gentilicium and cognomen in their feminine forms. > > 22. Love Althewerld new name and device > > Or semy of hearts gules, a terrestrial sphere azure. > > Reaney & Wilson s.n. Love have Love Meel 1315. Robert > Althewerld appears in the returns from Bicker in the 1327 Lincolnshire > Lay Subsidy. Note to Laurel: The paperwork may be a little confused. > The armory was originally submitted as a badge to be associated with > the household name House Insipid; when the latter was returned in > kingdom, the lady decided to use it as her arms. (She's got the whole > world in her arms.) > > 23. Lucius Curvatius Penis new name > > Withycombe (xviii) lists the praenomen. Solin & Salomies list > both the gentilicium (65) and the cognomen (377). It's a pity that he > and Frigidia (item 13 supra) live at opposite ends of the kingdom; it > seems to us that they were made for each other. > > 24. Lucius Curvatius Penis - Bent How alternate name > > DGP s.nn. Puder, How has Bent Puder 1406 and Mattis How 1469. > > 25. Mahi Mahi new name and device > > Or, a dolphin naiant proper surmounted by a bend azure. > > According to Black Dove's summary in the 1996 KWHS > proceedings, two of the entries in the 1292 Paris Census are Mahi le > lanier and Mahy le Breton. The forename, a pet form of Mahieu, runs > in the family. > > 26. Materia Medica new name > > Solin & Salomies list the masculine forms of the gentilicium > (114) and the cognomen (361). Withycombe (xx) mentions that at some > time after the formation of the Roman empire, women used the paternal > gentilicium and cognomen in their feminine forms. (Need we say that > the lady is a dedicated chirurgeon?) > > 27. Pain le Gayne new name > > Bardsley s.n. Pain has Pain del Ash 1301; Reaney & Wilson s.n. > Gain have John le Gayne 1275. He's indispensable in a shield wall: as > all serious SCA athletes know, `No Pain, no Gayne'. > > 28. Peer Hugger new name > > DGP s.nn. Howman, Hugger has Peer Homandt 1499 and Peder > Hugger 1501. > > 29. Scruia Perfecta name change from Scruia Proficientia > > Solin & Salomies list the masculine forms of the gentilicium > (165) and the cognomen (377). Withycombe (xx) mentions that at some > time after the formation of the Roman empire, women used the paternal > gentilicium and cognomen in their feminine forms. > > This lady recently received a Laurel for her complete mastery > of her art. Unlike the knights and royal peers who clutter their arms > with the symbols of their new estate, she has decided that her arms - > which are very nice indeed - need no embellishment and has chosen > instead to use her name to advertise her skill. > > 30. Seman Gildynballokes new name and device > > Azure gutty d'or, in fess two bezants. > > Reaney & Wilson s.n. Seaman have Seman le Erl 1327; Jönsjö > s.n. Gildynballokes has Rog. Gildynballokes 1316. > > 31. Seman Gildynballokes - Organ Do Littel alternate name and > badge > > Or, in fess two hurts. > > Reaney & Wilson s.n. Organ has Organus Pipard 1236; the > Latinate suffix is presumably just documentary and can therefore be > omitted. Ibid. s.n. Dolittle has Walter Dolitel 1219 and John Do > Littel 1275. According to his forms, this persona is `for days when > I'm feeling lonely and ... blue'. > > 32. Sexy Pellicane new name (appeal of kingdom return) > > Reaney & Wilson s.n. Sexy have Sexi Forfot 1137 and Robert > Sexy 1230, whose byname is very likely patronymic at that date. Ibid. > s.n. Pelican has Thomas Pellican 1316. This is a bit late for the > forename, but the OED shows the word in use from before the Conquest, > pellicane being the earliest form. As the byname seems always to have > been rare, we do not think it impossible that it was in use as much as > a century before the first recorded instance. We have no quarrel with > the documentation or construction of the name; we returned it on the > grounds that the submitter is claiming to be a mythological creature. > With the recent elevation of the lovely Mistress Dyot (see item #10), > some of us have changed our minds and support the appeal; others, > contending that one swallow does not make a summer, oppose it. > > 33. Spurius Laurus Officiosus new name > > Withycombe (xviii) lists the praenomen. Solin & Salomies list > both the gentilicium (102) and the cognomen (372). > > 34. Talan Gwynek - Satanus Lucifer alternate name (name reg. > 5/84) > > Birley (19) notes that the praenomen began to fall into disuse > well before the 3rd c. all over the empire. Solin & Salomies list > both the gentilicium (163) and the cognomen (353). The submitter > informs us that henceforth all of his onomastic commentary will appear > over this name. > > 35. Two Bitzer new name and device > > Argent, a quarter sable. > > DGP s.nn. Porse, Bitsere has Two Porsse 1426 and Hekhardi > Bitzer 1373. > > Owing to his stinginess with the black ink, there was some > question as to whether the charge was a quarter or merely a canton; we > decided to use the cant, not the canton. > > 36. Yesse Man new name > > DGP s.nn. Lykke, Nal, Man has Yesse Lycke 1395, Yesse Naal > 1396-1439, Las Man 1420, and even Jess Man 1457, of which the > submitted name is a variant. He's a bit unimaginative, but what can > you expect? > > Given by my hand at Scholarly Manor in the Barony of the Cleftlands > this 1st day of April in the reign of Edmund and Kateryn Anno > Societatis •xxxj• > > Satanus Cubic Zirconium > > BIBLIOGRAPHY > > Bahlow, Hans. Mittelhochdeutsches Namenbuch nach schlesischen > Quellen. Neustadt an der Aisch: Verlag Degener & Co., 1975. > Bahlow, Hans. Deutsches Namenlexikon. Baden-Baden: Suhrkamp > Taschenbuch Verlag, 1985. > Bardsley, Charles Wareing. A Dictionary of English and Welsh > Surnames. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1967. > Birley, Anthony. The People of Roman Britain. London: B T Batsford, > Ltd, 1979. > DGP. Danmarks Gamle Personnavne. Vol. II: Tilnavne. Gunnar Knudsen, > Marius Krestensen, and Rikard Hornby, eds. København: G. E. C. Gads > Forlag, 1949-64. > Reaney, P.H. & Wilson, R.M. A Dictionary of English Surnames. > London: Routledge, 1991. > SMP. Sveriges medeltida personnamn. Uppsala: Almkvist & Wiksell, > 1967-1995. > Solin, H., & Salomies, O. Repertorium nomen gentilium et cognominum > Latinorum. New York: Olms-Weidmann, 1988. > Withycombe, E.G. The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names. > Oxford: At the University Press, 1984. Edited by Mark S. Harris arms-humor-msg Page 13 of 13