larding-msg - 11/6/08 ਀ഊInserting fat into meat to tenderize it and to add moisture in period and today. How to do it. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: broths-msg, roast-meats-msg, roast-pork-msg, venison-msg, lamb-mutton-msg, goat-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀  栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀  栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀  愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀  漀昀  攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀  眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀  眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀  洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀  眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀  渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀  愀猀  琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀  漀昀  琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀  最椀瘀攀渀  戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀  爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀  愀渀搀  攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀  琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀  琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀  挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀  漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀  椀猀  甀渀挀氀攀愀爀  愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀  椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀  椀猀  瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀  昀爀漀洀  琀栀攀猀攀  洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:10:26 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 倀栀椀氀 ☀ 匀甀猀愀渀 吀爀漀礀 㰀琀爀漀礀 愀琀 愀猀愀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - A question about larding ਀ഊ> I'm about to sound real uneducated here for a little while. I was ਀㸀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 猀漀洀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 椀渀 愀 挀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀 愀渀搀 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 愀ഊ> larding needle (They told me to use one to insert piece of bacon fat into a ਀㸀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 猀琀攀愀欀⤀⸀  一漀眀 䤀 氀椀欀攀 猀攀眀椀渀最 愀渀搀 攀洀戀爀漀椀搀攀爀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀 栀攀愀爀搀 漀昀ഊ> a larding needle, what it looks like or how to use one. ਀㸀   䌀漀甀氀搀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 攀渀氀椀最栀琀攀渀 洀攀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 渀愀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 攀搀椀戀氀攀 ഊ> embroidery? ਀㸀 ഊ> -Sianan ਀ഊAll right, now, there's nothing to fear, I'm not going to do the Ham Talk or anything! ਀ഊLarded Beef (or larded anything else) is essentially artificially marbled with ਀昀愀琀⸀ 倀爀椀洀攀 戀攀攀昀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 愀猀 漀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 氀攀猀猀攀爀 最爀愀搀攀猀Ⰰ 栀愀猀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 昀氀攀挀欀猀ഊof visible fat interspersed through it. By taking a larding needle, which can ਀戀攀 渀漀琀栀椀渀最 洀漀爀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀砀 琀栀愀渀 愀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 戀椀最 猀攀眀椀渀最 渀攀攀搀氀攀 椀渀 猀栀愀瀀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊsometimes looks almost like a big hypodermic needle without the syringe part, ਀愀渀搀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 愀琀琀愀挀栀椀渀最 愀 猀琀爀椀瀀 漀昀 瀀漀爀欀 昀愀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀愀挀欀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊformer, or filling it with a strip of pork fat in the latter case, you can ਀椀渀猀攀爀琀 琀栀攀 瀀漀爀欀 昀愀琀 椀渀琀漀 礀漀甀爀 洀攀愀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 氀愀爀搀椀渀最 渀攀攀搀氀攀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 愀 挀氀椀瀀 漀爀 栀漀氀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 戀愀挀欀Ⰰ 愀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 昀漀爀ഊyour strip of fat to trail behind it, you pass your needle entirely through ਀琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀Ⰰ 甀渀琀椀氀 漀渀氀礀 琀栀攀 昀愀琀 椀猀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 椀琀Ⰰ 愀琀 眀栀椀挀栀 瀀漀椀渀琀 礀漀甀 搀攀琀愀挀栀 琀栀攀 昀愀琀ഊfrom the needle and repeat the process. If you have the other standard type, ਀琀栀椀渀最猀 愀爀攀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 攀愀猀椀攀爀㨀 礀漀甀 猀琀椀挀欀 琀栀攀 渀攀攀搀氀攀 椀渀琀漀 礀漀甀爀 洀攀愀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 攀椀琀栀攀爀ഊoperate a sort of plunger, or you can just use your finger or a knife tip in ਀猀漀洀攀 洀漀搀攀氀猀Ⰰ 琀漀 瀀甀猀栀 琀栀攀 昀愀琀 椀渀 愀渀搀 眀椀琀栀搀爀愀眀 琀栀攀 渀攀攀搀氀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀椀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 挀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀椀瀀猀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 甀猀攀Ⰰ 漀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊhollow-needle-and-plunger type design, you can sometimes use the needle to cut ਀琀栀攀 猀琀爀椀瀀猀 昀爀漀洀 愀 戀氀漀挀欀 漀昀 昀愀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 挀漀爀攀 愀渀 愀瀀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 戀礀 瀀漀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊneedle in, twisting it completely around, and pulling it out. Many cooks who ਀戀漀琀栀攀爀 琀漀 甀猀攀 琀栀椀猀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 愀琀 愀氀氀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 漀昀琀攀渀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 挀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀椀瀀猀 戀礀ഊhand, so they can do cool stuff like marinating the strips in cognac before ਀椀渀猀攀爀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀洀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 漀昀琀攀渀 挀漀渀昀甀猀攀 戀愀爀搀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 氀愀爀搀椀渀最⸀ 䈀愀爀搀椀渀最 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀猀 眀爀愀瀀瀀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊmeat (usually a bird of some kind) in one or more sheets of fat, which ਀瀀爀漀琀攀挀琀猀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀 昀爀漀洀 搀爀礀椀渀最 漀甀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀氀猀漀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀氀礀 瀀爀攀瘀攀渀琀猀 戀爀漀眀渀椀渀最⸀ 伀渀ഊthe other hand, the fat used in barding can easily be removed after cooking. ਀ഊAnother aspect is the fat intake, and while that is a concern for many, I ਀猀栀漀甀氀搀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀甀琀 琀栀愀琀 漀昀琀攀渀 愀 戀椀最 挀栀甀渀欀 漀昀 洀攀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀漀甀最栀Ⰰഊgristly or gelatinous fat on it, which the cook won't want to remove because ਀琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 搀爀礀 漀甀琀⸀ 䈀漀琀琀漀洀 爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 漀爀 眀栀愀琀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀攀 䈀爀椀琀椀猀栀ⴀ猀瀀攀愀欀攀爀猀 挀愀氀氀ഊsilverside, is a classic example. Or, sometimes the last bits of fat on a ਀瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 洀攀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 氀攀昀琀 漀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 戀甀琀挀栀攀爀 昀漀爀 洀漀椀猀琀渀攀猀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 漀甀琀 漀昀 氀愀稀椀渀攀猀猀ഊor incompetence, nowadays, but will conceal bands of elastin which make the ਀搀椀渀攀爀 昀攀攀氀 栀攀 漀爀 猀栀攀 椀猀 挀栀攀眀椀渀最 漀渀 愀 戀甀氀氀攀琀ⴀ瀀爀漀漀昀 瘀攀猀琀⸀ 伀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 最漀漀搀 琀栀椀渀最猀ഊabout larding meat is that you can trim off virtually all the fat from the ਀猀甀爀昀愀挀攀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 挀栀漀漀猀攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 洀攀愀琀 搀爀礀椀渀最 漀甀琀 椀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 渀甀洀攀爀漀甀猀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 琀漀 氀愀爀搀椀渀最 洀攀愀琀猀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䰀攀ഊMenagier de Paris bothers to explain the difference between larding with fat ਀愀渀搀 猀琀甀搀搀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 挀氀漀瘀攀猀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀Ⰰ 猀漀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀琀氀礀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 猀漀洀攀ഊconfusion among "laymen" even then. Modernly, it has become very chi-chi to ਀∀氀愀爀搀∀ 眀椀琀栀 渀漀渀ⴀ昀愀琀 椀琀攀洀猀 氀椀欀攀 琀爀甀昀昀氀攀猀Ⰰ 猀栀爀攀搀搀攀搀 挀栀椀氀椀猀Ⰰ 猀攀愀眀攀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀ഊother stuff. ਀ഊAll right, so I gave the Ham Talk after all...sorry! ਀ഊAdamantius ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㔀 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 　㘀㨀㐀　㨀㈀㤀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: maddie teller-kook ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䄀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 愀戀漀甀琀 氀愀爀搀椀渀最ഊ ਀䄀 氀愀爀搀椀渀最 渀攀攀搀氀攀 椀猀 愀 栀漀氀氀漀眀 琀甀戀攀⸀ 䤀琀 愀氀氀漀眀猀 礀漀甀 琀漀 愀搀搀 昀愀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 椀渀琀攀爀椀漀爀 漀昀 愀ഊroast to keep it moist and juicy. This was done since most meat (except pork) had little interior fat or marbling like it does now. You can get larding needles from the catalogue for 'Sur la Table'. They have 2 sizes. They are not as readily available as before due to the changes in our diet to use less fat. ਀ഊMeadhbh ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㔀 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 　㠀㨀㈀㜀㨀㈀㐀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: a14h at zebra.net (William Seibert) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䄀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 愀戀漀甀琀 氀愀爀搀椀渀最ഊ ਀洀愀搀搀椀攀 琀攀氀氀攀爀ⴀ欀漀漀欀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀 ⠀猀渀椀瀀⤀ഊ> You can get larding needles from the catalogue for 'Sur la Table'. They have 2 ਀㸀 猀椀稀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 愀猀 爀攀愀搀椀氀礀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 愀猀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 搀甀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀栀愀渀最攀猀 椀渀 漀甀爀 ഊ> diet to use less fat. ਀㸀ഊ> Meadhbh ਀ഊCall a large animal vet and get one of those huge syringes used on horses or cattle. Ask for an 8 or 10 gauge needle. Works like a charm. ਀圀䄀䨀䐀䤀 ⠀眀栀漀猀攀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 欀渀椀昀攀 椀猀 愀 䬀ⴀ䈀愀爀⤀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:11:18 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䈀愀氀氀搀爀椀挀栀 䈀愀氀氀䈀愀爀椀愀渀 䈀漀甀氀搀攀爀䈀愀椀渀∀ 㰀洀猀挀愀 愀琀 挀㈀椀㈀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - A question about larding ਀ഊFor a better price for a larding needle look in hunt shops that cater to ਀搀攀攀爀 栀甀渀琀攀爀猀⸀  圀攀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 氀愀爀搀 瘀攀渀椀猀漀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀爀氀礀 挀椀瘀椀氀椀稀攀搀 瀀愀氀氀攀琀琀攀⸀ഊI picked up my first at the Ben Pearson Bow Factory in upper Michigan in ਀琀栀攀 㜀　✀猀⸀  䤀琀 眀愀猀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 戀漀爀爀漀眀攀搀 愀渀搀 渀攀瘀攀爀 爀攀琀甀爀渀攀搀 戀礀 搀攀攀爀 栀甀渀琀攀爀猀ഊhere in Atenveldt about ten years ago. Hmmm, think I will check on some ਀瘀攀渀椀猀漀渀 渀攀砀琀 琀椀洀攀 䤀✀洀 椀渀 䴀漀渀猀 吀爀椀渀椀琀爀甀猀⸀ ⸀ ⸀ഊ ਀        䈀愀氀氀搀爀椀挀栀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:31:59 -0700 (MST) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀攀渀 䔀渀最攀氀猀戀攀爀最 㰀戀攀渀最攀氀猀 愀琀 挀栀爀漀渀椀挀⸀氀瀀氀⸀愀爀椀稀漀渀愀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: SC - Larding venison ਀ഊI just stumbled on a relatively brilliant, though non-period method for ਀氀愀爀搀椀渀最 瘀攀渀椀猀漀渀 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 搀爀礀 洀攀愀琀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀琀攀 甀猀椀渀最 愀 氀愀爀搀椀渀最 渀攀攀搀氀攀Ⰰ 挀栀攀挀欀 琀栀椀猀 漀甀琀㨀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 琀栀椀挀欀 猀氀椀挀攀猀 漀昀 猀愀氀琀 瀀漀爀欀Ⰰ 戀愀挀漀渀Ⰰ 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 昀愀琀琀礀 洀攀愀琀 ⠀愀戀漀甀琀ഊ3/16" thick). Cut it into wedges a couple of inches long, and 3/4" wide at ਀漀渀攀 攀渀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀愀瀀攀爀攀搀 琀漀 愀 瀀漀椀渀琀 愀琀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀⸀  倀甀琀 琀栀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 氀愀椀搀 漀甀琀 漀渀ഊa heavy plate, and put the plate in your freezer. Freeze the snot out of ਀琀栀攀 氀愀爀搀椀渀最Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 椀猀 䠀䄀刀䐀 昀爀漀稀攀渀⸀  吀栀攀渀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 猀洀愀氀氀 栀漀氀攀猀 椀渀ഊyour roast with a sharp knife, and shove the larding in like a nail. Cap ਀眀椀琀栀 猀氀椀瘀攀爀猀 漀昀 最愀爀氀椀挀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 猀漀 椀渀挀氀椀渀攀搀⸀  夀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 甀猀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀ഊpiece of larding for every 2" square of surface area. ਀ഊThis worked wonderfully for me a couple of nights ago. I did not find an ਀漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀 洀攀琀栀漀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 椀琀 挀愀洀攀 眀椀琀栀 氀漀漀欀猀 氀椀欀攀 椀琀ഊcame from SOAR. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀ 䴀愀礀 ㈀　　　 ㈀㄀㨀㔀㘀㨀　　 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: "Robin Carroll-Mann" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 琀漀渀最甀攀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀 椀琀 挀愀洀攀 琀漀 瀀愀猀猀 漀渀 ㌀　 䄀瀀爀 　　ⰀⰀ 琀栀愀琀 倀栀椀氀椀瀀 ☀ 匀甀猀愀渀 吀爀漀礀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ[quoting Balthazar of Blackmoor] ਀㸀 㸀  䈀愀爀搀椀渀最 椀猀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 漀昀 眀爀愀瀀瀀椀渀最 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀 椀渀 戀愀挀漀渀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 ഊ> > fat (such as chicken skin or goose skin with the fat layer intact). ਀ഊ> I haven't seen any period references to barding, that I can recall, ਀㸀 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀 漀昀 瀀爀漀琀攀挀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀ഊ> in various ways was used. ਀嬀猀渀椀瀀崀ഊ> Adamantius ਀ഊDe Nola has several recipes in which roasted birds are covered with ਀猀琀爀椀瀀猀 漀昀 戀愀挀漀渀 眀栀椀氀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀  䄀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀渀 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 椀渀 开吀栀攀 ഊOriginal Mediterranean Cuisine_ for grilled veal in which a piece of salt ਀瀀漀爀欀 椀猀 瀀氀愀挀攀搀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀攀愀氀 椀渀 漀爀搀攀爀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 椀琀 洀漀椀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀䰀愀搀礀 䈀爀椀最栀椀搀 渀椀 䌀栀椀愀爀愀椀渀ഊSettmour Swamp, East (NJ) ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㌀ ㄀㤀㨀㄀㠀㨀㌀㠀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: "Phil Troy/ G. Tacitus Adamantius" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 琀甀爀欀攀礀 爀漀愀猀琀攀爀猀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊAlso sprach Generys ferch Ednuyed: ਀㸀 匀漀 琀攀氀氀 洀攀 洀漀爀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 氀愀爀搀椀渀最 琀甀爀欀攀礀猀㼀 䤀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 猀琀甀昀昀 戀甀琀琀攀爀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀ഊ> skin, which I guess works in a similar way, but the skin doesn't look as ਀㸀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 愀猀 椀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 ⠀琀栀攀 戀椀琀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 戀甀琀琀攀爀 最攀琀 漀瘀攀爀 搀漀渀攀 愀欀愀 戀甀爀渀琀⤀ ⴀഊ> tastes wonderful though, esp. with lots of rosemary mixed into the ਀㸀 戀甀琀琀攀爀⸀⸀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䜀攀渀攀爀礀猀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 挀甀琀 昀椀爀洀 昀愀琀Ⰰ 氀椀欀攀 瀀漀爀欀 昀愀琀戀愀挀欀 漀爀 昀愀琀琀礀 戀愀挀漀渀Ⰰ 椀渀琀漀 洀愀琀挀栀猀琀椀挀欀ഊstrips, say, 1/8 inch x 1/8 inch by two or three inches long. Some ਀挀漀漀欀猀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 洀愀爀椀渀愀琀攀 琀栀攀猀攀 椀渀 戀爀愀渀搀礀 眀椀琀栀 挀栀漀瀀瀀攀搀 栀攀爀戀猀⸀ ⠀䬀攀攀瀀椀渀最ഊthem cold is a good idea, though.) ਀ഊYou then use a larding needle, which is any of several tools, ranging ਀昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀砀 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀椀稀愀爀爀攀Ⰰ 琀漀 瀀漀欀攀 愀 栀漀氀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊmeat and introduce a matchstick strip of the fat. Some needles are ਀氀椀欀攀 氀愀爀最攀 猀攀眀椀渀最 渀攀攀搀氀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 樀甀猀琀 琀甀挀欀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 愀 猀琀椀挀欀 漀昀ഊfat into the hole/eye, and put a stitch in the meat, leaving the fat ਀戀攀栀椀渀搀 猀漀 椀琀 瀀爀漀琀爀甀搀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 戀漀琀栀 攀渀搀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 栀漀氀攀 洀愀搀攀 戀礀 琀栀攀 渀攀攀搀氀攀ഊ(like a tunnel). Other needles are hollow, and have a clip in the ਀戀愀挀欀 攀渀搀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 礀漀甀 爀攀氀攀愀猀攀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 昀愀琀 椀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀⸀ 吀栀攀 漀渀攀猀 䤀ഊlike are completely hollow, with a groove running along the length; ਀眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀猀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 猀氀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 昀愀琀 猀琀爀椀瀀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 渀攀攀搀氀攀Ⰰ 瀀漀欀攀 琀栀攀 渀攀攀搀氀攀ഊinto the meat, and use your thumb (or sometimes there's a little ਀猀氀椀搀椀渀最 最椀稀洀漀 戀甀椀氀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 渀攀攀搀氀攀⤀ 琀漀 搀攀琀愀挀栀 琀栀攀 昀愀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀ഊneedle as you slide it out. I've even seen some of this last type ਀琀栀愀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀 攀搀最攀 愀氀漀渀最 琀栀攀 最爀漀漀瘀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 瀀漀欀攀 琀栀攀 渀攀攀搀氀攀 椀渀琀漀 愀ഊblock of fat, give it a twist, like an apple corer, and pull out the ਀渀攀攀搀氀攀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 氀漀愀搀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 昀愀琀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 昀愀琀 搀漀攀猀 猀栀漀眀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀愀礀 椀琀 猀瀀漀椀氀猀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀猀琀椀渀攀 氀漀漀欀 漀昀ഊthe breast skin of a roast bird, with all the little holes, but if ਀礀漀甀 搀漀 椀琀 椀渀 渀攀愀琀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 爀漀眀猀Ⰰ 椀琀 挀愀渀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 戀攀 焀甀椀琀攀 愀琀琀爀愀挀琀椀瘀攀Ⰰഊespecially as the fat sticking out of the bird cooks and browns. Lots ਀漀昀 漀氀搀攀爀 挀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀猀 栀愀瘀攀 搀爀愀眀椀渀最猀 漀昀 氀愀爀搀攀搀 戀椀爀搀猀㬀 琀栀攀礀 氀漀漀欀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀ഊspiny. ਀ഊYet another foodway from before the days of central heating and the ਀搀椀猀挀漀瘀攀爀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 栀愀爀搀攀渀攀搀 愀爀琀攀爀礀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:47:09 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䨀漀栀渀渀愀 䠀漀氀氀漀眀愀礀 㰀樀漀栀渀渀愀 愀琀 猀椀琀欀愀⸀攀渀最椀渀⸀甀洀椀挀栀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] larding needle; when would you use it? ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀 眀栀攀渀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀 眀栀礀 ⠀ 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀 ⤀  ഊ> would one use a larding needle? ਀㸀 ⴀⴀഊ> terry l. ridder ><> ਀ഊIvan Day has pictures on his website of meat being larded ਀眀椀琀栀 愀 最漀漀搀 攀砀瀀氀愀渀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊhttp://www.historicfood.com/Venison.htm ਀ഊJohnnae ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㈀㔀 伀挀琀 ㈀　　㠀 ㄀㠀㨀　㘀㨀㈀㔀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 嘀攀渀椀猀漀渀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊLarding is described in a number of recipes: ਀昀爀漀洀 ⨀䄀 䈀漀漀欀 漀昀 䌀漀漀欀爀礀攀   ⨀⠀䔀渀最氀愀渀搀Ⰰ ㄀㔀㤀㄀⤀ഊThe original source can be found at Mark and Jane Waks' website ਀㰀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀樀搀甀挀漀攀甀爀⸀漀爀最⼀䌀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀⼀䌀漀漀欀爀礀攀⸀栀琀洀氀㸀ഊ ਀吀漀 刀漀愀猀琀 嘀攀渀椀猀漀渀⸀ 䘀椀爀猀琀 瀀攀爀戀漀椀氀攀 椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 琀攀渀搀攀爀 挀愀猀琀 椀琀 ഊinto cold water, then Lard it and roste it, and for sauce take broth, ਀嘀椀渀愀最爀攀Ⰰ 倀攀瀀瀀攀爀Ⰰ 䌀氀漀瘀攀猀 愀渀搀 洀愀挀攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 猀愀氀琀 愀渀搀 戀漀椀氀攀 琀栀攀猀攀 ഊtogither and serve it upon your Venison. ਀ഊThere are several more in the same book that mention larding vension. ਀ഊThere's a description with nice photos at ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀昀漀漀搀⸀挀漀洀⼀嘀攀渀椀猀漀渀⸀栀琀洀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀渀愀攀ഊ ਀䴀漀爀愀洀愀爀猀栀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ<<< Venison question. ਀ 䤀猀 琀栀攀 猀琀甀昀昀椀渀最 漀昀 洀攀愀琀 眀椀琀栀 昀愀琀猀 愀渀搀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 ⴀ 氀愀爀搀攀爀 ⴀ  愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀  挀漀漀欀椀渀最 ഊmethod? This is the only way I know to fix venison. ਀䴀愀欀攀 氀愀爀最攀 猀氀椀琀猀 椀渀 琀漀 洀攀愀琀 愀挀爀漀猀猀 琀栀攀 最爀愀椀渀 愀渀搀 猀琀甀昀昀 眀椀琀栀 戀愀挀漀渀 昀愀琀 漀爀  ഊsausage.Also stuff in to the slits peeled whole cloves of garlic and onion wedges. cover all and roast in a slow oven for many hours.It melts in your mouth- so tender. ਀ 䴀漀爀愀ഊDragonmarsh >>> ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ氀愀爀搀椀渀最ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 㘀 漀昀 㘀ഊ ਊ