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Ideas for decorating and presenting period food.

 

NOTE: See also the files: illusion-fds-msg, fd-paintings-msg, sotelties-msg, peacocks-msg, whole-pig-msg, p-fd-coloring-msg, gilded-food-msg.

 

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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 05:07:30 -0400

From: Philip & Susan Troy <troy at asan.com>

Subject: Re: SC - wafers

 

Stefan li Rous wrote:

> I'm also interested in decorative ways to serve these wafers and hypoccras

> since I'm serving the King and Queen and our past barons and baronesses.

> Should I just stack the flat wafers on a plate? Roll the wafers into tubes?

> Use a divided plate with the wafers, dried fruits and comfits in different

> sections? Put each type of item on seperate smallish plates and bowls?

 

I'm not sure about the wafers and fruits (although the wafers look good

served like rolls or cookies, say, in a folded napkin in a basket or on

a large platter, arranged in a circular overlapping pattern), but the

candied spices seem generally to have been stored and served in little

boxes which you pass from diner to diner, perhaps the way I'd imagine a

snuff box going around, with everybody taking a pinch and passing it on.

 

You can get inexpensive little shaved-wood hat-box shaped (i.e. round)

boxes, as small as two or three inches across, at some fabric/craft

stores, maybe a five-and-dime if such places still exist. These can be

covered with fabric and otherwise decorated, or even painted with your

baronial arms, etc., and are a good way of serving candied spices. I've

bought enough of these for one per table at feasts, and they cost maybe

a dollar a pop, and  I didn't worry if people took them home as little

souvenirs of the event.

 

As for the dried fruit, I'm not sure what you'd do, because I'm not sure

if dried fruits would have been considered appropriate served with the

issuance of parlor spices, wafers, that sort of thing. My suspicion (not

backed up by much research into this, I admit) is that they'd be seen as

a food that opens the chest, stomach, or bowles (as often, regrettably,

happens unexpectedly if you eat too many prunes, for example) and might

be seen as an inappropriate match for the spices you eat after the

cheese and other stomach-closing dairy foods. The best image I can

conjure would be that you don't drive a car with the cap left off your

gas tank, do you? I can see a modern person not thinking this way,

though. Now, if you had candied fruits, it might be another matter, and

if I were serving candied fruits I'd serve suckets (wet candies, more or

less) either in some kind of little pot or bowl, and dry fruit confits

in a larger version of my spice box, I suppose. Marmalades and things,

which in late period tended to be fairly dry, slicable lechemeats, were

often stored in perforated tin boxes with a mold built in; you'd oil the

inside of your marmalade box and pour the hot fruit paste in to cool,

take on the shape of the mold, and dry out over several days. Serving

something like candied cherries in a box might seem to evoke period

practice, especially since these items were often made off-premises and

purchased more or less for medicinal purposes.

 

Adamantius

 

 

Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:27:10 -0400

From: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler at chesapeake.net>

Subject: Re: food and appearance...was Re: SC - quick important note

 

I think that one of the most important things is to make the food pleasing to

the eye...that goes a long way toward making it so that folks will try it.  I

try to serve the food in an attractive way...using various kinds of garnishes

and arrangements on platters/bowls/etc.  And they don't have to be ornate or

expensive.  We served Lombardy Tarts (Beet Pies) at a feast this past weekend in

a Barony whose "mascot" is the Md. Blue Crab.  We had a crab cookie cutter and

cut a crab-shape in the top crust of the pie, then offset the claws slightly to

add a slight 3-D shape.  I wish I could say that that one was my idea, but it

was created by one of my staff...and it was very well received!

 

Kiri

 

 

Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:32:24 -0700

From: "Wanda Pease" <wandapease at bigfoot.com>

Subject: RE: food and appearance...was Re: SC - quick important note

 

> When involved with a wonderful cook guild in An Tir (wah) we were

> working on feast for one of the Lion's Tourneys and made a wonderful

> meat potage.  It tasted great, but we decided against serving it

> because it looked horrible.  We figured we might as well stick with

> something that not only tasted good but looked good too!  LOL!!  Too

> bad we couldn't convince the head cook not to serve the fish soup

> (which we had enough of after the event to bathe in.)

> Melbrigda

 

My solution to a "horrible looking stew" was to make dumplings so it formed

a layer over the top.  It might not have been period, but it saved us from a

seriously underestimated feast.  There was no choice but to serve it, and

while it tasted yummy, it looked sort of grey green (no food poisoning was

reported, and none was returned to the kitchen).  Of course this was in the

days when Fabulous Feasts was considered a top of the line source :->

 

Regina Romsey

 

 

Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:52:04 -0400

From: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler at chesapeake.net>

Subject: Re: food and appearance...was Re: SC - quick important note

 

I believe that the idea that my associate used for the pies is a period idea (I know it is for the period that the feast recreated--Elizabethan), if not the actual design itself.  I recalled seeing illustrations in the Robert May book of designs for the tops of pies, so this seemed to follow along with that idea.

 

Kiri

 

 

Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:41:29 EST

From: LrdRas at aol.com

Subject: SC - Sprinkles

 

lilinah at earthlink.net writes:

<< I want the multicolored sprinkles, cuz, like in the Middle Ages

people liked strange colors, so it'll be more, uh, period, yeah,

that's it. >>

 

You are a lot closer to the truth than you may realize here. Assorted sugar

sprinkles, called 'dragees' were very much used in Chiquart's day to garnish

foods of all sorts. He lists them as a necessity for preparing feasts and

strongly warns the reader of his manuscript to not forget them. :-)

 

Ras

 

 

Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 17:18:37 -0500

From: Philip & Susan Troy <troy at asan.com>

To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Re: Presentation of food at feasts (was Of

pickyness...)

 

Sue Clemenger wrote:

> I might venture to remark, that a _lot_ of us who do feasts have

> never had benefit of formal training and/or work-related experience

>  in the cooking fields.  I know I've gotten better about timing

> things over the years, but I also know there's still a lot I'm

> missing, and a lot of at-the-last-minute-disaster-fixes I'm just

> not aware of. Ditto food presentation...I'd like to be creative

> with little last-minute touches, but don't know what to do, beyond

> sticking a sprig of parsley on a plate....Has anyone ever done any

> investigating re: period food flourishes? That'd be _really_

> interesting and helpful to know, as well as any period-compatible

> modern stuff.

 

A lot of recipes specify the presentation. Some call for foods to be

made in two colors, served side by side on the same dish. Some call for

a simple dusting of powdered sugar or a spice mix, some suggest fried

almonds, fried onions, bits of candied spice or a saffron-laced egg

wash. Some call for flowers or to be stuck with cloves. In some cases

there may have been additional garniture used, but I suspect often what

the recipe specified was what was used.

 

While I do believe on an attractive presentation, I mostly prefer food

that looks good, and looks like food, rather than putting a

representation of the Battle of Gettysburg cut out of radishes on top of

perfectly good food. Some people scorn this concept a bit and yammer

about presentation and eating with the eyes, but FWIW, in professional

circles I've always had a reputation for attractive plating in spite of

a very minimalistic approach. Probably this is a throwback to the KISS

rule taught in culinary schools. It stands for Keep It Simple, Stupid.

 

Let's see... Dishes for 12th Night...

 

The cotignac is will likely get silver sugar bee-bees and candied rose

petals...

 

Caboches in pottage will get powder douce and chopped fresh herbs...

 

Makke gets fried onions sprinkled on top... I may do something silly

like putting a fried Blooming Onion flower in the middle. It'll be a

private joke between the local Baroness and myself...

 

Compost is pretty festive (quiet, you!) on its own...

 

The venison will be in little cutlets fanned out and partially napped

with black pepper sauce. I may create some contrast with something like

endive leaves; it'll depend on budget.

 

The roast chickens will have a saffron-colored garlic sauce. Not sure

yet how we'll do with that.

 

The tourtes parmerienne recipe calls for planting little heraldic

banners in the middle, and for gilding or silvering the pies. I've got

some food-grade gold dust, which I'll probably sprinkle on top of the

poultry glaze, which is egg yolk, saffron and sugar.

 

The blomanger _may_ get a lobster head and tail shell protruding from

the edges of the plates, depending on the platters used. Fried, shredded

almonds at the very least.

 

Still thinking about the second course, but this is the general idea...

 

Adamantius

 

 

From: "Robin Carroll-Mann" <rcmann4 at earthlink.net>

To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 17:18:48 -0500

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Re: Presentation of food at feasts (was Of

pickyness...)

 

On 1 Jan 2002, at 17:18, Philip & Susan Troy wrote:

> A lot of recipes specify the presentation. Some call for foods to be

> made in two colors, served side by side on the same dish. Some call

> for a simple dusting of powdered sugar or a spice mix, some suggest

> fried almonds, fried onions, bits of candied spice or a saffron-laced

> egg wash. Some call for flowers or to be stuck with cloves. In some

> cases there may have been additional garniture used, but I suspect

> often what the recipe specified was what was used.

 

Nola has a saffron-tinted rice casserole which is garnished with

whole raw egg yolks, then returned to the oven just long enough to

let them set.  I've made it, and it's very pretty.

 

Brighid ni Chiarain *** mka Robin Carroll-Mann

Barony of Settmour Swamp, East Kingdom

 

 

Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 17:26:45 -0600

To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

From: Gorgeous Muiredach <muiredach at bmee.net>

Subject: Re: attractive presentation (wasRe: [Sca-cooks] Vegetarians)

 

Johnna,

Thank you for bringing up points that I hadn't thought about.

 

>Where is the documentation that all dishes must be dressed or garnished?

 

Dunno about documentation.  But I *do* know that they don't all need to be

garnished.  An attractive presentation doesn't by definition mean a

garnish.  It doesn't need to be an elaborate one either.  But!  I think

that presenting food in an attractive manner is important.  Too many times

food is "slopped" on the dish and brought out.  That is where I have a

problem.

 

Master A's KISS is worth a lot (You! Out of the gutter <wink>).  Yes, for

Savarin's sake, don't hide the food with garish garnish!

 

Gorgeous Muiredach

Rokkehealden Shire

Middle Kingdom

aka

Nicolas Steenhout

 

 

Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 15:53:31 -0800

To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

From: Maggie MacDonald <maggie5 at home.com>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Re: Presentation of food at feasts

 

There are a couple of members of the Calafian Cook's Guild that have looked

into what it was they did in period to give a little extra sparkle to

presentations.

 

There are two wonderful books that have detailed descriptions of the

'flourishes' done by the cooks in period, clear down to a stunning

description of the carving of a haunch of venison? beef? by the head cook

at head table. The books are "The Stars Dispose" and "The Stars Compel" by

Michaela Roessner.  She does give references at the end of the book. Such

as Maggie Black, MFK Fisher, Lorenza diMedici, Reay Tannenhill, Margaret

Visser, a book called Much Depends on Dinner, and Rituals of Dinner.  There

are even several recipes given in the book.

 

The other resource they've looked at is a period book, that they got a look

at via the interlibrary loan system, titled "The Book of Carving" by Winken

Worde.

 

Maggie MacD.

 

 

Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 19:19:27 -0500

From: Philip & Susan Troy <troy at asan.com>

To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

Subject: Re: attractive presentation (wasRe: [Sca-cooks] Vegetarians)

 

Gorgeous Muiredach wrote:

> Dunno about documentation.  But I *do* know that they don't all need to be

> garnished.  An attractive presentation doesn't by definition mean a

> garnish.  It doesn't need to be an elaborate one either.  But!  I think

> that presenting food in an attractive manner is important.  Too many times

> food is "slopped" on the dish and brought out.  That is where I have a

> problem.

> Master A's KISS is worth a lot (You! Out of the gutter <wink>).  Yes, for

> Savarin's sake, don't hide the food with garish garnish!

 

Just something to consider, and I'm not placing blame on anybody in

particular unless I put some on myself... but Muiredach, remember Lenny

Henry's "Chef!" character and the Things From Beyond The Pass? The

Morons? Please understand I'm not heaping (well, not much) real abuse on

servers, their job is hard, too, but I can't count the number of times

I've seen a server (mundane as well as SCA) pick up a carefully composed

plate, something that is not highly garnished, but which is

intrinsically beautiful, and do a very fast 180-degree turn on one heel.

Centrifugal force kicks in, and the salad is all over the plate, if not

the floor. Imagine this treatment with lentils. I would guess that maybe

1/4 to 1/3 of the slopped-looking plates Muiredach speaks of have had

some treatment of this kind, and the rest probably simply _were_ slopped

onto the plate.

 

One thing I've noticed over the years, is that there are people who do

not understand that repetitive motion does not have to lack precision,

and that standards do not have to drop when in bulk production. I was

once assisted by a SCAdian while I made a couple of hundred crepes at

some event or other, and he said he was amazed at the fact that I would

throw away a misshapen pancake, or at least not use it among the 200 I

had to make. He seemed to think the only object was to get the job done

as fast as possible, and I had to tell him that Napoleon is said to have

stated that the first crepe is always given to the cat -- the first one

is often messed up, torn, burned, etc., as you get your hands back into

crepe-making mode. I also told him that Andre Soltner had said that it

is impossible to be a successful chef without some degree of simple love

for the people you're cooking for. That it shows when it is there, and

when it is not. Just as, if I were diapering 200 babies, the comfort of

each one would be important to me, each of the 200 crepes is important,

too. He went away, shaking his head a bit, but I think he got the idea

eventually.

 

I think a lot of the inveterate sloppers, both in and out of the

Society, have to be taught this.

 

Adamantius

 

 

To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

Subject: Presentation, was  Re: [Sca-cooks] Vegetarians

Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 15:45:50 -0500

From: Kirrily Robert <skud at infotrope.net>

 

Anahita wrote:

>>(I have noticed more people complaining that their food is not

>>attractively arranged lately.)

> Few of the feasts i've attended in my 2-1/2 years have been arranged

> attractively. One standout was the Iron Chef competition - every team

> had very nicely presented food. I'll confess that at the Boar Hunt i

> was just concerned with getting the food out so it didn't look

> particularly nice, unless the dish was intrinsically attractive, like

> the cherry-rice.

 

This is a pet peeve of mine.  It's not hard to present food

attractively, and it's even quite easy to find references to

presentation in period recipes.  Why don't people do it!?!?

 

One thing I've picked up from my work with Elizabethan recipes is a

tendency to arrange dried fruit attractively on/around meat cooked with

the fruit.  For instance, I'll serve a chicken with a fruit-and-almond

sauce, and arrange dates on and around the chicken, perhaps in a little

star design on top, if they'll balance. Another thing I once did was a

sallet based roughly on some recipes in The English Huswife.  I started

with mixed greens tossed in a little vinegar/oil, then added a layer of

sliced cucumbers and radishes with the same vinegar/oil and some dill,

and then finally arraged orange and lemon slices around the outside,

alternating them and overlapping slightly, and then sprinkled the fruit

with sugar.  It looked great, it tasted great, and it took sod all

effort.  The oranges and lemons presentation is now one of my

favourites.

 

(The English Huswife sallet recipes are at

http://infotrope.net/sca/texts/english-housewife/sallets.html -- look at

the one called "Another compound Sallet" for a truly over-the-top

sallet!)

 

Katherine

--

Lady Katherine Rowberd (mka Kirrily "Skud" Robert)

katherine at infotrope.net http://infotrope.net/sca/

Caldrithig, Skraeling Althing, Ealdormere

 

 

Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:49:50 -0400

From: "Christine Seelye-King" <kingstaste at mindspring.com>

Subject: RE: [Sca-cooks] my menu for upcoming day event

To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

 

Your menu sounds wonderful, if a bit ambitious for 4 dollars a head, but it

does make me want to fly to Australia (although I want to do that anyway!)

Here are a few comments:

 

> Butter (possibly not a period practice but darn it! I *like* butter on

> my bread :-p)

 

        Perfectly period, except during fasts.  It's Honey butter we can't find any real documentation for.  I have do have sources for herbed butters, flavoring butters with essences, and sweet butters including cinnamon

And roses.  Have fun, and don't be ashamed to put out butter!

 

> The Baroness' is a big one on "properly & artistically presenting food"...

> and wants things in the shapes of the Moon & crabs & other

> "Horoscope style settings"... however she's violently opposed to using

> foil to cover dishes

> or cardboard.  Anyone have any ideas on how I could make a

> passable attempt at presentation without it costing me an arm & a leg?

> Mari de Paxford

 

<snip>

        As for presentation, cover whatever platters you have with plastic wrap,

paper, even foil (yes, gasp), and then cover all of that with greenery.

Whatever is fresh and local is best (do try not to get those poisonous

varieties, I've heard about the wildlife down under), but rosemary,

evergreens, herbs, grains/decorative grasses, flowers, etc. make great

presentation.  Leaf lettuce is widely used in food service for this, you can

also use purple cabbage or kale, banana leaves, all sorts of things.  The

greenery helps make platters look fuller, too, especially once food starts

being removed from them.

Cloth is another option used in food service extensively - just wrap

whatever the platter is in washable table cloths or large tea towels.

Good luck, it sounds just wonderful,

 

Mistress Christianna

 

 

Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:00:31 -0500

From: "Carper, Rachel" <rachel.carper at hp.com>

Subject: RE: [Sca-cooks] garnishing food

To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

 

For garnishing good I guess I would use flowers, real or food created.

Also at a Japanese feast several years ago Mistress Kiri served tea

stained hard boiled eggs. Now that I think about it that would make a

good garnish for a light colored food. Also perhaps braided and painted

bread? Or just the arrangement of the food would help make a more

pleasing presentation.

 

Elewyiss

 

 

Date: Tue 29 Jun 2004 13:19:18 -0400

From: "Barbara Benson" <vox8 at mindspring.com>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] period rice pudding

To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

 

> Stefan> Any ideas on how to dress it up some for a pot luck or feast dish?

> Sprinkle slivered almonds on the recipes calling for almond milk? Of

> course any rice pudding with saffron in it would have a gold or yellow

> tinge or color.

 

I have been doing a good bit or research on period garnishing and have some

suggestions. First off, of the recipes that are referenced one has

garnishing instructions:

 

Source [Curye on Inglish, Constance B. Hieatt & Sharon Butler (eds.)]:129.

Ryse of fische daye. Blaunche almaundes & grynde hem, & drawe hem vp wyt

watur. Wesche þi ryse clene, & do þerto sugur roche and salt: let hyt be

stondyng. Frye almaundes browne, & floriche hyt þerwyt, or wyt sugur.

 

...Fry almonds brown, & flourishit therewith or white sugar.

 

This is pretty much in line with what I was going to suggest. You can rarely

go wrong with putting sugar on top, I would suggest getting some fairly

coarse sugar if you are going to have a white pudding or a very white sugar

(put regular sugar in the food processor and make your own powdered sugar)

if you are going the saffron direction. And whole toasted almonds.

 

Based on several other recipes which contain both rice and almond milk you

could also get away with a sprinklng of pomegrante seeds. I would cover the

top of the pudding with sugar and then arrange the almonds around the edges

and sprinkle the pomegrante seeds all over. It would be lovely. And comfits

would do nicely also.

 

Here are some examples with variousinstructions:

Libro di cucina/ Libro per cuoco:

V.  Blancmange. ...When the dish is cooked pour into a bowl to serve.  Dress

the dish with rosewater, sugar, the reserved almonds that have been fried

and cloves.  This dish should be very white like snow nd potent with

spices.

 

Markham

145 A Whitepot.

Take the best and sweetest cream, and boil it with a  good store of sugar,

and cinnamon, and a little rose-water, then take it from the fire and put

into it clean picked rice, but not so much as to make it thick, and let it

steep therin till it be cold; then put in the yolks of six eggs, and two

whites, currants, sugar, cinnamon, and rose -water, and salt, then put it

into a pan, or pot, as thick as if it were custard; and so bake it and serve

it in the pot it is baked in, trimming the top with sugar or comfits.

 

Platina

41. Blancmange ... When it has cooked, put in three ounces of rose water,

and pit it on the table either in the dishes where the meat is or

separately, but in smaller dishes. If you decie to pour it over the capons

so it may seem more elegant, sprinkle with pomegranate seeds on top.

 

--Serena da Riva

 

 

Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:08:40 -0700 (PDT)

From: Samrah <auntie_samrah at yaho.com>

Subject: RE: [Sca-cooks]dressing up period rice pudding

To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

 

If we are talking about a small fast or potluck and if you garden (or

bop off to a home depot type store & purchase plants to harvest

flowers), how about a few calendula (pot marigolds~yellow) & perhaps a

few carnation pinks (red or garnet) for garnish?  Perhaps even some

feverfew (tny white daisies with yellow centers)....

 

Samrah

 

who got to feed their Majesties appetizer plates garnished with mint,

red roses, raddish flowers, pinks, feverfew, & nutmeg geraniums (OOP),

just this Sunday....  The Crown requested rather simple foods,so the

faire was rather plain, with the exception of some dolmas: shreaded

beef, ham baked with cinnamon & black pepper, & lemon chicken, cheeses,

fruits, breads...  But I had a couple of really talented helpers, and

we had a lovely time making sure te presentation was regal...

 

 

Date: Tu, 29 Jun 2004 19:53:04 -0400

From: "Elise Fleming" <alysk at ix.netcom.com>

Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: Period Rice Pudding

To: "sca-cooks at ansteorra.org" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

 

Stefan asked:

> Any ideas on how to dress it up some for a pot luck or feast dish?

> Sprinkle slivered almonds on the recipes calling for almond milk? Of

> course any rice pudding with saffron in it would have a gold or yellow

> tinge or color

 

Arrange pomegranate seeds on it in a pattern, or just scattered over the

top.  Pomegranate seeds were a frequent garnish for medieval foods.  

 

Alys Katharine

 

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