cook-ovr-fire-msg - 6/8/09 ਀ഊCooking over open fires. Cooking feasts outdoors. ਀ഊNOTE: See also these files: Opn-Fr-Cookry-art, utensils-msg, iron-pot-care-msg, Kentwell-Hall-art, firepits-msg, camp-ovens-msg, ovens-msg, firestarting-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: mfgunter at tddeng00.fnts.com (Michael F. Gunter) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㐀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㘀㨀㔀㄀㨀㐀㤀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊSubject: Re: SC - Feast planning ਀ഊ> What sorts of dishes have folks had good luck with cooking on a grill? ਀㸀  圀攀✀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 瀀漀爀欀 爀漀愀猀琀 戀攀昀漀爀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀瘀攀 栀愀搀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 眀椀琀栀 ഊ> meat getting dry and overdone. I'd be interested in other ideas. ਀㸀 ഊ> Caitlin ਀ഊOne thing that we do before feasts, and especially before grilling, is to boil ਀挀栀椀挀欀攀渀猀 昀椀爀猀琀⸀  䈀漀椀氀 琀栀攀洀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 瀀愀爀琀椀愀氀氀礀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 昀愀氀氀椀渀最 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀渀攀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 挀漀漀氀 愀渀搀 瀀氀愀挀攀 椀渀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 洀愀爀椀渀愀搀攀 礀漀甀 搀攀猀椀爀攀⸀  吀栀攀渀 最爀椀氀氀 琀栀攀洀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 戀爀漀眀渀 愀渀搀 搀漀渀攀⸀  夀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 眀椀琀栀 搀爀礀椀渀最 眀栀攀渀 搀漀渀攀 琀栀椀猀 眀愀礀⸀  䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 眀愀礀 琀栀攀礀 挀漀漀欀 甀瀀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 焀甀椀挀欀氀礀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 猀攀爀瘀攀 琀栀攀ഊchicken hot. ਀ഊGunthar ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀一椀挀欀 匀愀猀猀漀 ⠀昀爀愀 渀椀挀挀漀氀漀⤀∀ 㰀最爀椀稀氀礀 愀琀 洀椀渀搀猀瀀爀椀渀最⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊDate: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 19:38:42 -0400 ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀攀愀猀琀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最ഊ ਀㸀 伀渀攀 琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 搀漀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 昀攀愀猀琀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 最爀椀氀氀椀渀最Ⰰ 椀猀ഊ> to boil chickens first. ਀ഊAnother concept is to smoke the meat ahead of time. You'll have moist ਀洀攀愀琀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 挀栀愀爀 漀渀 琀栀攀 戀愀爀戀礀 漀爀 眀愀爀洀 椀渀 愀渀 漀瘀攀渀⸀  䰀漀琀猀 漀昀ഊcreative optins with smokers. ਀ഊIn Humble Service to God and Crown; ਀渀椀挀挀漀氀漀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: nweders at mail.utexas.edu (ND Wederstrandt) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㘀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㄀㨀㌀㜀㨀　㠀 ⴀ　㔀　　 ⠀䌀䐀吀⤀ഊSubject: Re: SC - cooking frumenty for the masses ਀ഊI have cooked outdoors with grains quite a bit since we wind up with lots ਀漀昀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀⸀  䤀 洀愀搀攀 愀 洀甀猀栀爀漀漀洀 戀愀爀氀攀礀 猀琀攀眀 眀椀琀栀 氀攀攀欀猀 漀甀琀 搀漀漀爀猀⸀  䤀ഊlike barley which has a nutty taste that works well with stews. The best ਀琀栀椀渀最 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀猀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 戀愀琀挀栀攀猀 愀渀搀 洀椀砀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀⸀  吀栀攀ഊbiggest problem with grains being cooked on Colemans, over fires and such ਀椀猀 琀漀漀 漀昀琀攀渀 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀 椀猀 琀漀漀 戀椀最 愀渀搀 椀猀渀✀琀 猀琀椀爀爀攀搀 眀攀氀氀 猀漀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 戀甀爀渀猀⸀ഊI use 3 gal pots and mix them when they are hot.. Our events usually have ਀愀 洀椀渀椀洀甀洀 漀昀 ㄀㔀　 栀甀渀最爀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 洀愀砀椀洀甀洀 漀昀 ㌀㔀　 漀爀 㐀　　 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀ഊpots work better even though the dish takes longer to cook. ਀ഊ Another idea is to precook your grains a bring them out to reheat ਀愀渀搀 洀椀砀 眀椀琀栀 愀渀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀⸀  䄀最愀椀渀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 瀀漀琀猀 眀漀爀欀 戀攀琀琀攀爀ഊthan large. ਀ഊ One of the best outdoor heating facilities I ever used was a water ਀栀攀愀琀攀爀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 栀漀漀欀攀搀 甀瀀 琀漀 愀 戀甀琀愀渀攀 琀愀渀欀⸀  䤀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀漀椀氀 愀 ㈀㔀 最愀氀 瀀漀琀 漀昀ഊhot water in less than two minutes. Really good...... ਀ഊClare St. John ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 倀栀椀氀椀瀀 ☀ 匀甀猀愀渀 吀爀漀礀 㰀琀爀漀礀 愀琀 愀猀愀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊDate: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 19:00:00 -0400 ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀 愀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 䔀渀瘀椀爀漀渀洀攀渀琀ഊ ਀䰀 䠀攀爀爀ⴀ䜀攀氀愀琀琀 愀渀搀 䨀 刀 䜀攀氀愀琀琀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> How many of you have attempted to make your "camp cooking" period---not just ਀㸀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 椀爀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀ഊ> beehive ovens and the open spits. etc? ਀ഊUp to a point. I've used a cast-iron bean pot (buried in a firepit) for ਀愀 瀀漀琀琀愀最攀 漀昀 挀愀渀攀戀礀渀猀 眀椀琀栀 栀愀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀愀欀攀搀 椀渀 愀 䐀甀琀挀栀 漀瘀攀渀 甀瀀 漀渀ഊlegs, and used both stone and cast iron bakestones. Can't seem to find a ਀猀洀椀琀栀 眀栀漀✀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 洀攀 愀 爀愀挀栀椀渀最挀爀漀欀攀 䤀 挀愀渀 愀昀昀漀爀搀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀⸀⸀⸀猀漀洀攀搀愀礀⸀⸀⸀㰀猀椀最栀㸀ഊ. ਀㸀 䤀琀✀猀 攀砀琀爀愀 眀漀爀欀Ⰰ 䤀 最爀愀渀琀 礀漀甀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 愀氀猀漀 栀愀瘀攀 栀愀搀 椀琀 猀栀漀眀渀 琀漀 洀攀 琀栀愀琀 洀愀渀礀ഊ> of our recipes are altered by the situations in which we cook them and the ਀㸀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 琀漀漀氀猀 眀攀 甀猀攀⸀  䄀 瀀椀攀 戀愀欀攀搀 椀渀 愀 欀攀琀琀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 挀漀愀氀猀 栀攀愀瀀攀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 氀椀搀Ⰰഊ> and a pie baked in a gas oven, and a pie baked in a brick bakery oven will ਀㸀 瘀愀爀礀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀愀戀氀礀 愀猀 琀漀 琀愀猀琀攀Ⰰ 琀攀砀琀甀爀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀⸀  䤀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀ഊ> try a small event (perhaps our household of 40-odd) with no (or few) modern ਀㸀 挀漀渀瘀攀渀椀攀渀挀攀猀⸀ 䌀愀渀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 漀昀昀攀爀 洀攀 猀漀洀攀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 漀昀 洀礀 搀爀攀愀洀 䔀䬀唀 ⠀椀渀猀攀爀琀 渀愀洀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 欀椀渀最搀漀洀 甀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 栀攀爀攀⤀ഊscenarios is a day in a tavern kitchen. This would be a class taking ਀瀀爀攀琀琀礀 洀甀挀栀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 搀愀礀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 戀爀攀眀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀 戀愀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀攀愀氀ഊconsisting of a pie, a pottage, a roast with sauces and a sallet or two. ਀倀漀猀猀椀戀氀礀 愀 氀愀琀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀眀攀攀琀⸀ 匀椀渀挀攀 琀栀椀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 琀攀愀挀栀椀渀最 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀ⰀഊI'd figured on doing about 3/4 of the food in advance, to be reheated in ਀瀀漀琀猀 渀攀愀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 漀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀洀 戀爀攀愀搀 漀瘀攀渀⸀ ⠀吀栀椀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 最漀 愀 眀愀礀猀ഊtoward preventing some disasters.) Most of the day would be spent doing ਀琀栀攀 爀攀洀愀椀渀椀渀最 ㈀㔀─Ⰰ 猀氀漀眀氀礀 愀渀搀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀氀礀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 戀漀琀栀 琀栀攀 猀琀甀搀攀渀琀猀 ⠀愀渀搀 椀渀ഊmy case, the teacher) to learn some of the techniques. ਀ഊYou might consider something like that... ਀ഊAdamantius ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 倀愀爀 䰀攀椀樀漀渀栀甀昀瘀甀搀 㰀瀀愀爀氀攀椀 愀琀 欀椀⸀猀攀㸀ഊDate: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:18:11 +0200 (METDST) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀 愀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 䔀渀瘀椀爀漀渀洀攀渀琀ഊ ਀伀渀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㌀　 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀Ⰰ 䰀 䠀攀爀爀ⴀ䜀攀氀愀琀琀 愀渀搀 䨀 刀 䜀攀氀愀琀琀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> How many of you have attempted to make your "camp cooking" period---not just ਀㸀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 椀爀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀ഊ> beehive ovens and the open spits. etc? ਀ഊI've cooked for small groups of people (10-15) over campfire with only the ਀琀漀漀氀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀㨀 瀀漀琀猀 ⠀漀渀攀 椀爀漀渀 爀攀瀀氀椀挀愀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 愀氀甀洀椀渀椀甀洀 ∀戀椀氀氀礀 挀愀渀∀  琀礀瀀攀ഊpots), wooden spoons and ladles, knives, cutting boards. With the ਀氀椀洀椀琀愀琀椀漀渀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 椀洀瀀氀椀攀猀 椀琀 眀漀爀欀猀 昀椀渀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀ഊtakes some skill to work with the fire, and keep a constant temperature on ਀瀀漀琀猀⸀ 䤀✀瘀攀 愀氀猀漀 甀猀攀搀 眀栀愀琀 挀漀洀攀猀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 挀氀漀猀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 瘀椀欀椀渀最 愀最攀 猀欀椀氀氀攀琀猀Ⰰ ഊwith good results when making bread. ਀ഊMake sure you have plenty of firewood, and if you go for much larger ਀最爀漀甀瀀猀 礀漀甀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 搀攀琀愀椀氀攀搀 欀攀攀瀀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 愀琀ഊa constant level. This person should have some knowledge of what it takes ਀琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 愀 昀椀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 愀琀 愀 挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀 氀攀瘀攀氀 ⠀猀洀愀氀氀 猀琀椀挀欀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀 ഊreplenishment), but this should be ok for a teenager. ਀ഊHave a convienient method of regulating your pots position relative to the ਀昀椀爀攀⸀ 䴀礀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀攀搀 猀攀琀甀瀀 椀猀 愀 琀爀攀渀挀栀 琀礀瀀攀 昀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 ⠀猀愀礀 ㄀ ㄀⼀㈀砀㐀✀⤀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀ഊbar at about 4-5' above. I then hang my pots from it using wooden "double ਀栀漀漀欀猀∀嬀㄀崀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀 瘀椀欀椀渀最 猀琀礀氀攀 挀栀愀椀渀 眀椀琀栀 栀漀漀欀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 眀漀爀欀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 愀猀ഊwell. Remember that you can regulate by having the fire on one end, and ਀洀漀瘀椀渀最 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀 猀椀搀攀眀愀礀猀⸀ 䘀漀爀 愀 氀愀爀最攀爀 猀攀琀甀瀀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀㬀 ഊstirring the pots and keeping them positioned. ਀ഊOther useful things: nick a pair of welders gloves from one of your ਀渀攀椀最栀戀漀甀爀栀漀漀搀 猀琀椀挀欀樀漀挀欀猀⸀ 唀猀攀昀甀氀 昀漀爀 栀愀渀搀氀椀渀最 栀漀琀 愀渀搀 猀漀漀琀礀 瀀漀琀猀⸀ ഊ ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 氀愀爀最椀猀栀 愀琀 愀氀氀Ⰰ 䤀 猀琀爀漀渀最氀礀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 ഊgetting a table. It makes lots of things much easier. ਀ഊ/UlfR ਀ഊ[1] Join to wooden hooks until you have a "Z" shape (say 5-6" long). Your ਀瀀漀琀 栀愀渀最猀 漀渀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 猀琀甀爀搀礀 猀琀爀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀⸀ 椀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀渀 攀愀猀礀 琀漀ഊroll up a turn of string on the upper hood when needed. The upper end of ਀琀栀攀 猀琀爀椀渀最 椀猀 琀椀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 愀 氀漀漀瀀 ⠀氀愀爀最攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 猀氀椀搀攀 攀愀猀椀氀氀礀⤀ 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀愀爀⸀ഊ- -- ਀倀愀爀 䰀攀椀樀漀渀栀甀昀瘀甀搀                  瀀愀爀⸀氀攀椀樀漀渀栀甀昀瘀甀搀 愀琀 氀愀戀琀攀欀⸀欀椀⸀猀攀 ഊ ਀ഊFrom: KandL Johnston ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ 　㄀ 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㄀㨀㐀㐀㨀㄀㈀ ⬀㄀　　　ഊSubject: Re: SC - Cooking in a Period Environment ਀ഊL Herr-Gelatt and J R Gelatt wrote: ਀㸀 䤀 愀氀猀漀 ⠀眀椀琀栀 洀甀挀栀 愀渀砀椀攀琀礀Ⰰ 愀猀 椀琀 眀愀猀 洀礀ഊ> first totally period camp meal) made our dinner with an open spit, and a ਀㸀 渀椀昀琀礀 挀愀猀琀 椀爀漀渀 琀爀椀瘀攀琀 琀栀椀渀最礀 愀琀琀愀挀栀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀✀猀 甀瀀爀椀最栀琀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀氀搀 洀礀ഊ> pots over the flame. I am a new woman with a new goal! I want to do some ਀㸀 栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀 攀渀瘀椀爀漀渀洀攀渀琀 愀渀搀 琀漀漀氀猀⸀ 匀漀 栀攀爀攀✀猀 洀礀ഊ> question: ਀㸀 ഊ> How many of you have attempted to make your "camp cooking" period---not just ਀㸀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 椀爀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀ഊ> beehive ovens and the open . spits. etc? ਀ഊYes, Yes, Every year at Easter we hold a comping event, and many of us ਀攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀椀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 椀猀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 愀 琀爀攀愀琀⸀ 䘀椀爀攀 瀀漀爀琀 漀昀 䤀爀漀渀 愀渀搀ഊclay, open spits have cooked everything from roast and vegies, to baked ਀挀栀攀攀猀攀 挀愀欀攀猀 愀渀搀 昀爀椀琀琀攀爀猀⼀琀漀爀琀猀⸀ ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 礀攀愀爀 眀攀 栀漀瀀攀 琀漀 最攀琀 猀漀洀攀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 漀瘀攀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀礀瀀攀 椀猀 甀渀搀攀挀椀搀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 䤀琀✀猀 攀砀琀爀愀 眀漀爀欀Ⰰഊ ਀一漀琀 愀 氀漀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀爀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最 愀渀礀眀愀礀ഊ ਀㸀  䤀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀ഊ> try a small event (perhaps our household of 40-odd) with no (or few) modern ਀㸀 挀漀渀瘀攀渀椀攀渀挀攀猀⸀ 䌀愀渀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 漀昀昀攀爀 洀攀 猀漀洀攀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 栀攀氀搀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀 㔀　 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 㘀 挀漀漀欀猀Ⰰ 愀 昀椀爀攀 洀椀渀搀攀爀 ⠀瘀攀爀礀ഊimportant person, knows where hot, cool and medium heats are) and one ਀挀愀洀瀀 挀漀漀欀 昀椀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀  䤀✀洀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀Ⰰ 刀甀搀漀氀昀 椀猀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀渀 昀椀爀攀 洀椀渀搀攀爀⸀ഊ- --------------------------------------- ਀刀甀搀漀氀昀 瘀漀渀 搀攀爀 䐀爀愀甀 愀渀搀 一椀挀漀氀攀琀琀攀 䐀甀昀愀礀ഊBaron and Baroness, Stormhold ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀爀漀渀眀礀渀洀最渀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊDate: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:46:31 -0400 (EDT) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀 愀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 䔀渀瘀椀爀漀渀洀攀渀琀ഊ ਀䄀琀 漀渀攀 漀昀 洀礀 昀椀爀猀琀 匀䌀䄀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 眀愀猀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 愀 眀漀漀搀 昀椀爀攀ഊset in a long, narrow trench to allow enough area for everything we needed. ਀ഊ I'm afraid I can't remember much of the menu except the gingered carrots and ਀瀀漀愀挀栀攀搀 瀀攀愀爀猀⸀  䤀 搀漀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 爀愀椀渀攀搀 氀椀最栀琀氀礀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀ഊenough to put the fire out. The downpour came, literally, as we took the ਀氀愀猀琀 瀀漀琀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 最漀琀 椀琀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀⸀  圀攀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀ഊto worry about keeping an eye on the fire after that. The nearby stream, on ਀琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 栀愀渀搀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀圀攀 搀椀搀 渀漀琀 甀猀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 甀琀攀渀猀椀氀猀 ⴀ 椀渀 昀愀挀琀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀椀最最攀猀琀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀ഊfact that someone decided that refrigerator shelves would make good fire ਀最爀愀琀攀猀⸀  ⠀䐀漀 一伀吀 琀爀礀 琀栀椀猀⸀  吀栀攀礀 戀攀渀搀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀戀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 眀攀椀最栀琀 愀渀搀ഊheat and try to dump your food in the fire.) Also, things tend to heat ਀甀渀攀瘀攀渀氀礀Ⰰ 猀漀 椀渀 爀攀猀挀甀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀漀 昀愀氀氀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰഊsomebody grabbed one side of the pot and said "Oh, it's cool, you won't need ਀愀 瀀漀琀栀漀氀搀攀爀∀ ⴀ 眀栀椀挀栀 爀攀猀甀氀琀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 最甀礀 漀渀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀椀搀攀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 愀 渀愀猀琀礀ഊburn. So it is important to turn and stir pots frequently, and to make sure ਀琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 瀀氀攀渀琀礀 漀昀 瀀漀琀栀漀氀搀攀爀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 愀渀搀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 攀瘀攀渀 椀昀 礀漀甀 琀栀椀渀欀 椀琀ഊmight not be hot. ਀ഊAlso, on another list (I think) the point was brought up that wind will rob ਀琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 昀漀爀洀 礀漀甀爀 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 椀渀挀爀攀愀猀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀椀洀攀猀⸀  圀椀渀搀 戀爀攀愀欀猀 愀爀攀 愀 最漀漀搀ഊthing. ਀ഊBronwyn ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 刀漀戀椀渀 䠀愀挀欀攀琀琀 㰀爀漀戀椀渀⸀栀愀挀欀攀琀琀 愀琀 眀愀搀猀眀漀爀琀栀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊDate: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:44:43 -0500 ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀 愀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 䔀渀瘀椀爀漀渀洀攀渀琀ഊ ਀䈀爀漀渀眀礀渀 眀爀漀琀攀Ⰰഊ>We did not use period utensils - in fact, one of the biggest problems was the ਀㸀昀愀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 搀攀挀椀搀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀漀爀 猀栀攀氀瘀攀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 洀愀欀攀 最漀漀搀 昀椀爀攀ഊ>grates. (Do NOT try this. They bend under the combination of weight and ਀㸀栀攀愀琀 愀渀搀 琀爀礀 琀漀 搀甀洀瀀 礀漀甀爀 昀漀漀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀⸀⤀ഊ ਀伀瘀攀渀 猀栀攀氀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 漀渀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 栀愀渀搀Ⰰ 眀漀爀欀攀搀 昀漀爀 洀攀 昀漀爀 礀攀愀爀猀⸀ 䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊdig anymore. A combination of sand and ceramic tiles work well as a base to ਀戀甀椀氀搀 愀 昀椀爀攀 漀渀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 爀甀椀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 甀渀搀攀爀渀攀愀琀栀⸀ 伀甀爀 ㄀㔀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀ഊset up (three spits and a pole to hang pots from) can still be driven into ਀琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 琀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 椀琀猀 洀甀挀栀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 琀漀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 眀栀攀渀ഊyou can reach it. :) ਀ഊ>Also, on another list (I think) the point was brought up that wind will rob ਀㸀琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 昀漀爀洀 礀漀甀爀 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 椀渀挀爀攀愀猀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀椀洀攀猀⸀  圀椀渀搀 戀爀攀愀欀猀 愀爀攀 愀 最漀漀搀ഊ>thing. ਀ഊYes, they keep you from feeding charred yet uncooked chicken to the King! ਀䄀洀愀稀椀渀最 䤀 猀琀椀氀氀 挀漀漀欀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 搀攀戀愀挀氀攀⸀ 㨀⤀ഊ ਀䰀攀爀椀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Debra Hense ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀ 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㜀㨀㄀㔀㨀㌀㈀ ⴀ　㔀　　ഊSubject: SC - RE: sca-cooks V1 #182 ਀ഊThere is a lady living in the DC area (originally from Calontir), who can ਀琀攀愀挀栀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀 挀漀漀欀攀爀礀⸀  䤀 欀渀漀眀 眀攀 昀氀攀眀 栀攀爀 琀漀 䌀愀氀漀渀琀椀爀 琀漀 琀攀愀挀栀 愀渀 愀氀氀 搀愀礀 ഊoutdoor cookery class several years ago. Unfortunately, I cannot now ਀爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 栀攀爀 渀愀洀攀⸀  䠀攀爀 栀甀猀戀愀渀搀 眀愀猀 匀椀爀 䬀椀渀琀攀最攀爀渀⠀猀瀀㼀⤀⸀ഊ ਀嬀䴀愀琀椀氀搀愀 漀昀 吀愀礀 ⴀ 琀栀愀琀✀猀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀✀猀 渀愀洀攀⸀  匀栀攀 琀攀愀挀栀攀猀 愀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 愀氀氀 搀愀礀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀 挀漀漀欀攀爀礀 挀氀愀猀猀⸀崀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 䤀 洀漀猀琀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 栀攀爀 琀攀愀挀栀椀渀最 椀猀 琀栀攀 瀀栀爀愀猀攀 ∀氀攀琀 琀栀攀 ഊfire be small, clear and bright." And she showed us in the fire pit what ਀猀栀攀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 琀栀攀 琀攀爀洀 洀攀愀渀琀⸀  圀攀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀栀愀琀 搀愀礀⸀  䄀 爀漀愀猀琀Ⰰ ഊstew, pie, and bread over that fire pit that we dug. It was extremely ਀攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䬀愀琀攀爀礀渀 搀攀 䐀攀瘀攀氀礀渀ഊWho's only moved three times since then. I know the handout is in one of ਀琀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀 戀漀砀攀猀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Mary Morman ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀ 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㌀㨀㌀㤀㨀㔀㤀 ⴀ　㘀　　 ⠀䴀䐀吀⤀ഊSubject: Re: SC - outdoor cookery ਀ഊOn Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Debra Hense wrote: ਀㸀 䴀愀琀椀氀搀愀 漀昀 吀愀礀 ⴀ 琀栀愀琀✀猀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀✀猀 渀愀洀攀⸀  匀栀攀 琀攀愀挀栀攀猀 愀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 愀氀氀 搀愀礀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀 挀漀漀欀攀爀礀 挀氀愀猀猀⸀  ഊ ਀䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 䴀愀琀栀椀氀搀愀 吀愀礀 䜀椀氀挀栀爀攀猀琀⸀  圀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀Ⰰ 琀愀氀攀渀琀攀搀 氀愀搀礀⸀  伀渀氀礀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 椀ഊhave met with a laurel in Housewifery. But I guess I never thought of her ਀愀猀 戀攀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 䌀愀氀漀渀琀椀爀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䔀氀愀椀渀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:31:42 -0700 (PDT)From: rousseau at scn.org (Anne-Marie Rousseau)Subject: SC - Frumenty successes!Hi all from Anne-Marie.Just wanted to let you all know that the frumenty for 120 went over great! It was not gloppy and was not burned and bunches of people came up and said "THAT was frument? But it wasn't nasty!!" Hooray!What we did:Make the frumenty in decent sized batches (about 4 cups at a time) in my really good big Revereware pot with a great lid. Let it cool to room temp and stir in the egg as dictated in the original source. Seal the stuff in boil-in-the-bag seal-a-meal bags, about 2-3 cups per bag.On site, we used the big huge propane burners like they have for crab boils. HEated up water in our biggest pots and when it was at a boil, put two or three bags in the water. Boiled them for about...5 min? Until the bags were soft (ie the frumenty was not all clumpy any more). Dumped the scalding hot and totally cooked grain in big steamer inserts which we kept in the oven until all the grain was done, and we served.For the record, we served the frumenty with stewed mushrooms, also from Curye on Englishe, I believe.Every diner got a little pamphlet with the recipes, including the original sources.Thanks for all the great ideas! For us, at this particular event, the boily bags were a great idea.- --Anne-Marie.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Anne-Marie Rousseaurousseau at scn.orgSeattle, Washington ਀ഊDate: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:23:16 -0500 (CDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 挀漀氀攀 樀漀愀渀 㰀樀猀挀漀氀攀 愀琀 甀砀㄀⸀挀猀漀⸀甀椀甀挀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: SC - Re: seeking recipes (Outdoor Feast) ਀ഊBrenna of Lyonsbane requested a couple of recipes that I don't have and ਀椀搀攀愀猀 昀漀爀 愀渀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀渀 瀀爀椀洀椀琀椀瘀攀 挀椀爀挀甀洀猀琀愀渀挀攀猀⸀  吀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀Ⰰഊand I have recipes available at ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀猀琀愀昀昀⸀甀椀甀挀⸀攀搀甀⼀縀樀猀挀漀氀攀⼀最漀猀昀攀愀猀琀⸀栀琀洀ഊSome dishes are period, some are not. Perhaps it will spark some ideas. ਀ഊHildegarde Stickerin ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㈀㄀㨀㄀㐀㨀㐀㄀ ⴀ　㜀　　ഊFrom: "Anne-Marie Rousseau" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 猀攀攀欀椀渀最 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⠀伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 䘀攀愀猀琀⤀ഊ ਀䠀椀 愀氀氀 昀爀漀洀 䄀渀渀攀ⴀ䴀愀爀椀攀ഊ ਀琀栀椀猀 猀甀洀洀攀爀 眀攀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 攀砀挀氀甀猀椀瘀攀氀礀 漀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀⸀ 眀栀愀琀 愀 栀漀漀琀℀ 䄀渀ഊoutdoor feast in "primitive" condiitons is a fun challenge! ਀ഊwe have found that we can do just about anything we would want to do in a ਀爀攀最甀氀愀爀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 攀砀挀攀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 戀愀欀椀渀最 瀀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 戀爀攀愀搀猀 ⠀愀渀搀ഊthis only becuase we haven't perfected the techniques yet). Stuff that is ਀瘀攀爀礀 眀攀氀氀 猀甀椀琀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀瀀攀渀 昀椀爀攀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀㨀ഊ- --potages and stews...ie anything that you chop up and let boil or simmer ਀昀漀爀 氀漀渀最 瀀攀爀椀漀搀猀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀ഊ- --anything yfryd...ie stuff you cook briefly in hot oil (spinach and fava ਀漀爀 最愀爀戀愀渀稀漀 戀攀愀渀猀 愀爀攀 琀眀漀 漀瀀琀椀漀渀猀⤀ഊ- --herbolades...those eggy things with greens ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀ爀椀猀猀漀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 昀爀礀琀漀甀爀猀⸀ 夀漀甀✀爀攀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 搀攀攀瀀 昀爀礀椀渀最ഊisnt a terrible ordeal! ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀ爀愀瘀椀漀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 瀀攀爀昀攀挀琀℀ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 攀瘀攀渀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀洀 愀栀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 昀爀攀攀稀攀ഊthem. Put them in the boiling broth on site, and voila! ਀ഊCheck out Pleyn Delit, that new Medieval Kitchen book, anything by Scully, ਀䴀愀最最椀攀 䈀氀愀挀欀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 最漀漀搀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀ⴀ爀攀挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀攀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊcan get you started. Test them out at home first to be sure you like them ਀眀攀氀氀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 猀攀爀瘀攀 琀漀 瀀愀礀椀渀最 挀甀猀琀漀洀攀爀猀 㨀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀攀氀攀挀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊseem to be too fussy about heat (ie sauces that might curdle probably are ਀渀漀琀 猀甀椀琀愀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰ 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 氀椀欀攀 洀攀 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀渀琀 昀椀最甀爀攀搀 漀甀琀ഊthe fine points yet) ਀ഊhave fun! cooking over a fire is a blast, especially when you've started it ਀礀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀 眀椀琀栀 昀氀椀渀琀 愀渀搀 猀琀攀攀氀℀ഊ- --AM ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 　㜀㨀㌀　㨀㐀㄀ 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: WOLFMOMSCA at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 猀攀攀欀椀渀最 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⠀伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 䘀攀愀猀琀⤀ഊ ਀倀爀椀洀椀琀椀瘀攀 䘀攀愀猀琀猀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 眀愀礀 琀漀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 爀攀挀爀攀愀琀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 昀漀漀搀猀⸀  吀栀攀礀ഊdidn't have gas ranges or food processors. They had fire. I've fed 450 off ਀漀渀攀 猀椀砀ⴀ昀漀漀琀 琀爀攀渀挀栀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰ 甀猀椀渀最 愀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 戀攀渀琀 猀琀攀攀氀 愀猀 愀渀 漀瘀攀渀⸀  䜀椀瘀攀猀 礀漀甀 愀ഊreal appreciation for what life was like for a real medieval cook. ਀ഊWolfmother ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㈀㨀㄀㤀㨀㐀㘀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: "Decker, Terry D." ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 猀攀攀欀椀渀最 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⠀伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 䘀攀愀猀琀⤀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 最爀椀渀猀 愀渀搀 椀渀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 愀戀漀甀琀 戀愀欀椀渀最 戀爀攀愀搀 漀渀 愀 最爀椀搀搀氀攀Ⰰ 䤀ഊtried baking a small cottage loaf this past weekend on a griddle covered by ਀愀 洀攀琀愀氀 戀漀眀氀Ⰰ 愀 栀椀最栀 琀攀挀栀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀氀漀挀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀⸀  䤀 洀愀渀愀最攀搀 琀漀 挀栀愀爀挀漀愀氀ഊthe bottom, perfectly brown the top and undercook the middle. The problem ਀眀愀猀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 昀攀攀氀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 猀漀甀爀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 挀愀渀 戀愀欀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 甀猀椀渀最 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 愀 昀氀愀琀 爀漀挀欀 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 挀愀甀氀搀爀漀渀Ⰰഊbut you need to experiment to find out what the heat source will do with the ਀瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀 漀瘀攀渀⸀  䤀✀洀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀椀渀最 琀漀 氀漀猀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀 搀漀稀攀渀 氀漀愀昀猀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 䤀 最攀琀 琀栀攀ഊmakeshift cloche to work. I certainly need to raise the griddle and I may ਀渀攀攀搀 琀漀 猀瀀爀攀愀搀 猀漀洀攀 挀爀愀挀欀攀搀 洀椀氀氀攀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 最爀椀搀搀氀攀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 椀渀猀甀氀愀琀攀 琀栀攀ഊdough. ਀ഊThe recipe I'm using is: ਀ഊDissolve 1 teaspoon dry active yeast in 1 cup warm water. Let the yeast ਀猀琀愀爀琀 琀漀 昀爀漀琀栀 ⠀愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀　 洀椀渀⸀⤀ഊSift 1 teaspoon salt with 2 cups of flour. ਀匀琀椀爀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀甀爀 椀渀琀漀 礀攀愀猀琀 洀椀砀琀甀爀攀 ㄀⼀㈀ 挀甀瀀 愀琀 愀 琀椀洀攀⸀ഊKnead on a floured surface until the dough is smooth and elastic. ਀䘀漀爀洀 琀栀攀 搀漀甀最栀 椀渀琀漀 愀 戀愀氀氀⸀ഊLet rise about 30 minutes in a covered, greased bowl. ਀匀栀愀瀀攀 礀漀甀爀 氀漀愀昀⸀ഊBake until the crust is brown and the loaf sounds hollow when you tap it on ਀琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 ⠀㌀　 洀椀渀 琀漀 ㄀ 栀爀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䄀猀 愀 眀漀爀搀 漀昀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 搀漀甀最栀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀猀Ⰰ 欀攀攀瀀 猀漀洀攀 洀甀猀氀椀渀 猀焀甀愀爀攀猀ഊlarge enough to cover your bowls handy. Weighted corners are also a nice ਀椀搀攀愀⸀  䈀甀最猀 氀漀瘀攀 昀攀爀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀一攀砀琀Ⰰ 眀栀礀 渀漀琀 戀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀甀氀搀爀漀渀㼀  䈀爀攀愀搀 欀攀攀瀀猀 眀攀氀氀 昀漀爀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀ഊdays. You do not have to bake daily. And you certainly do not need to bake ਀愀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀椀洀攀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 洀攀愀氀⸀  䤀琀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 挀漀洀洀漀渀ഊpractice both by professional bakers and householders to bake bread twice a ਀眀攀攀欀⸀ഊ ਀一漀眀 椀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 昀爀攀猀栀 戀爀攀愀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀氀 愀渀搀 愀 搀礀椀渀最 昀椀爀攀 椀猀 愀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀Ⰰ 琀爀礀ഊa keyhole fire pit. Dig a circular pit about 18 inches in depth. Extend a ਀琀爀攀渀挀栀 漀甀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 瀀椀琀 ⠀甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀攀瘀愀椀氀椀渀最 眀椀渀搀⤀⸀ഊThe trench should be narrow enough that your pots will fit across it and you ਀猀栀漀甀氀搀 氀椀渀攀 琀栀攀 氀椀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀爀攀渀挀栀 眀椀琀栀 猀琀漀渀攀猀Ⰰ 戀爀椀挀欀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 氀漀最猀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀ഊsupport the weight of the pots and keep the lip from crumbling. Tapering ਀琀栀攀 琀爀攀渀挀栀 昀爀漀洀 ㄀㠀 椀渀挀栀攀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 瀀椀琀 攀渀搀 琀漀 愀戀漀甀琀 㐀 椀渀挀栀攀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 昀愀爀ഊend helps control the temperature on the bottom of the pot by where you ਀瀀漀猀椀琀椀漀渀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀䈀甀椀氀搀 愀 昀椀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 瀀椀琀⸀  䬀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 最漀椀渀最⸀  䄀猀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 戀甀椀氀搀猀 愀ഊbed of coals, transfer the coals to the trench with a shovel (I use a WWII ਀攀渀琀爀攀渀挀栀椀渀最 琀漀漀氀⤀⸀  䈀礀 欀攀攀瀀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀椀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 欀攀攀瀀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最ഊa steady supply of coals, which can be transferred occasionally to the ਀琀爀攀渀挀栀 琀漀 洀愀椀渀琀愀椀渀 琀栀攀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀椀爀攀⸀  夀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀氀猀漀 猀攀琀 甀瀀ഊa spit by the firepit and use it for roasting meat. ਀ഊBear ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㔀㨀㄀㐀㨀　㌀ ⬀㄀　　　ഊFrom: Robyn Probert ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 猀攀攀欀椀渀最 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⠀伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 䘀攀愀猀琀⤀ഊ ਀䤀 最甀攀猀猀 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 猀琀愀爀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 瀀栀椀氀漀猀漀瀀栀椀挀愀氀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 ⴀ 愀爀攀 礀漀甀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀ഊcook over a fire to understand and experience what it was like? Or are you ਀琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 昀漀漀搀 愀渀搀 琀栀椀猀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀猀 琀漀 戀攀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 栀攀愀琀 猀漀甀爀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀䤀昀 琀栀攀 氀愀琀琀攀爀Ⰰ 瀀爀攀ⴀ挀漀漀欀 愀渀搀 栀攀愀琀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 愀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 愀渀搀 甀猀攀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀ഊimplements are useful including those coal carrying dutch ovens, a water ਀挀栀甀昀昀攀爀 愀渀搀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 攀氀猀攀 眀栀椀挀栀 洀愀欀攀猀 琀栀攀 樀漀戀 攀愀猀椀攀爀⸀ 圀栀愀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 栀椀爀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀ഊbig gas burners and/or gas ovens? We did a feast last year for 350 with no ਀欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 ⴀ 眀攀 栀椀爀攀搀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 椀渀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀攀爀 琀栀攀渀 漀渀 愀渀 漀瀀攀渀 昀椀爀攀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 挀漀漀欀 琀栀椀渀最猀 椀渀 昀爀礀瀀愀渀猀Ⰰ 漀渀 猀瀀椀琀猀ഊand grill racks, in cauldrons and pots, so why not use recipies designed for ਀琀栀攀猀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 洀攀琀栀漀搀猀㼀 䄀搀搀 琀漀 琀栀愀琀 猀漀洀攀 挀漀漀欀ⴀ戀攀昀漀爀攀 愀渀搀 栀攀愀琀 甀瀀 漀瀀琀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀ഊyou have a big range. ਀ഊEach year we have a 6 day camping event (Rowany Festival). I camp with a ਀最爀漀甀瀀 椀渀琀漀 愀甀琀栀攀渀琀椀挀椀琀礀Ⰰ 猀漀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 漀甀爀 瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 戀愀琀栀 栀漀甀猀攀Ⰰ 昀攀愀猀琀 琀攀渀琀Ⰰഊcook tents and open fireplace. We all like cooking and all our evening meals ਀愀爀攀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 ⴀ 猀漀洀攀 昀爀漀洀 猀挀爀愀琀挀栀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 瀀爀攀ⴀ瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀⸀ 䄀氀氀ഊresearched, all delicious. Our evening board would usually have 15 dishes ਀愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀 ㈀㔀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 瀀氀甀猀 爀椀渀最 椀渀猀⸀ 䴀愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 昀椀渀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀猀攀ഊnumbers but would not be practical for a large feast. ਀ഊGrab bag of Stuff we learned - dig a trench, not a round pit - much easier ਀琀漀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 洀漀爀攀 爀漀漀洀 昀漀爀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀漀欀猀⸀ 匀攀琀 甀瀀 琀眀漀 琀愀氀氀 琀爀椀瀀漀搀猀 愀琀ഊeach end, with a pole between to hang pots from and spits along. Crossbars ਀漀渀 琀栀攀 琀爀椀瀀漀搀猀 栀漀氀搀 氀愀搀氀攀猀Ⰰ 昀漀爀欀猀 攀琀挀 漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀椀爀琀 ⠀愀渀搀 愀 瀀愀椀爀 漀昀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀ഊgloves for hot pots). Start your fire and prep WELL before it gets dark. ਀䌀漀漀欀 漀渀 挀漀愀氀猀⸀ 䐀漀渀✀琀 甀猀攀 挀爀攀猀猀攀琀猀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 氀椀最栀琀 ⴀ 眀椀挀欀猀 椀渀 漀瀀攀渀 漀椀氀 椀猀 琀漀漀ഊdangerous (candle laterns are OK). 3 legged ceramic pots are very stable and ਀⠀椀渀 猀琀漀渀攀眀愀爀攀⤀ 爀攀洀愀爀欀愀戀氀礀 猀漀氀椀搀⸀ 䌀栀椀渀愀琀漀眀渀 猀攀氀氀猀 戀椀最 挀栀攀愀瀀 椀爀漀渀 氀愀搀氀攀猀 愀渀搀ഊother useful tools. Also cheap stoneware pots. Solid blocks of ice will keep ਀昀漀漀搀 挀漀漀氀 氀漀渀最攀爀 琀栀愀渀 搀爀椀渀欀 琀礀瀀攀 椀挀攀 ⠀䤀 洀愀搀攀 愀渀 椀挀攀戀漀砀 戀礀 氀椀渀椀渀最 愀 琀漀甀爀渀攀礀ഊchest and drop in lid with 1" solid foam - stays cool for 1 week). Frozen ਀猀琀攀眀猀 愀渀搀 瀀漀琀愀最攀猀 栀攀氀瀀 欀攀攀瀀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 挀漀漀氀⸀ 唀䠀吀 洀椀氀欀 愀渀搀 挀爀攀愀洀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀ഊto be kept cool until opened. Chardwarden is fabulous on porridge the next day. ਀ഊRowan ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊRobyn Probert ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀　㨀㐀㔀㨀㐀㠀 ⬀㄀　　　ഊFrom: Lillian Johnston ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 猀攀攀欀椀渀最 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⠀伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 䘀攀愀猀琀⤀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 眀愀礀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀猀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 漀渀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 愀 挀漀漀欀Ⰰ 椀渀ഊcharge of the fire. They can control the temp, have low, medium and hot ਀猀瀀漀琀猀 昀漀爀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 漀渀 愀渀搀 椀琀 椀猀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 愀 昀椀爀攀 戀甀最 愀爀漀甀渀搀 眀栀漀ഊwould love to play with the fire for an extended period. The fire pit ਀琀栀攀渀 戀攀挀漀洀攀猀 愀 挀漀渀瘀攀爀猀愀琀椀漀渀 愀爀攀愀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 搀爀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 椀渀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀礀ഊknow some one will be there. ਀ഊNicolette ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀　㨀㔀㜀㨀㄀㄀ ⬀　㈀　　 ⠀䴀䔀吀 䐀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: Par Leijonhufvud ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 猀攀攀欀椀渀最 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⠀伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 䘀攀愀猀琀⤀ഊ ਀伀渀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀Ⰰ 刀漀戀礀渀 倀爀漀戀攀爀琀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㸀 䜀爀愀戀 戀愀最 漀昀 匀琀甀昀昀 眀攀 氀攀愀爀渀攀搀 ⴀ 搀椀最 愀 琀爀攀渀挀栀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 愀 爀漀甀渀搀 瀀椀琀 ⴀ 洀甀挀栀 攀愀猀椀攀爀ഊ> to control the fire and more room for more cooks. Set up two tall tripods at ਀㸀 攀愀挀栀 攀渀搀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 瀀漀氀攀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀漀 栀愀渀最 瀀漀琀猀 昀爀漀洀 愀渀搀 猀瀀椀琀猀 愀氀漀渀最⸀ 䌀爀漀猀猀戀愀爀猀ഊ> on the tripods hold ladels, forks etc out of the dirt (and a pair of leather ਀㸀 最氀漀瘀攀猀 昀漀爀 栀漀琀 瀀漀琀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䴀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 琀爀椀瀀漀搀 琀愀氀氀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 礀漀甀 琀栀椀渀欀 椀猀 渀攀攀搀攀搀㨀 渀漀眀愀搀愀礀猀 䤀 猀攀氀搀漀洀 洀愀欀攀ഊthem less than 5 feet. ਀ഊUse pot-hooks or chains with hooks (as seen in Viking age finds) for ਀猀甀猀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 瀀漀琀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀搀樀甀猀琀 琀栀攀 攀氀攀瘀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀 愀猀 渀攀攀搀攀搀⸀ഊFor limited size pots (up to, say, 15-20 lb total mass) I prefer the ਀栀漀洀攀 洀愀搀攀 猀琀礀氀攀㨀 琀眀漀 眀漀漀搀攀渀 栀漀漀欀猀 琀椀攀搀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 椀渀 愀渀 ∀匀∀ 猀栀愀瀀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊsome (strong!) cord for adjustment. Unless you know how to do these you ਀猀栀漀甀氀搀 愀猀欀 愀 氀漀挀愀氀 眀漀漀搀眀漀爀欀攀爀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 礀漀甀 漀甀琀㬀 琀栀攀 琀爀椀挀欀 椀猀 琀漀 挀愀爀瘀攀ഊthem so that the the load is on the wood, not the lashings. ਀唀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀 䤀✀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀 猀攀攀渀 愀渀礀 椀渀搀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 氀攀瘀攀爀 琀礀瀀攀 爀椀最猀ഊfor suspending pots are period, since you can make some really nifty ਀猀攀琀甀瀀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀儀甀椀挀欀 猀氀漀眀ⴀ搀漀眀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀椀氀 椀渀 愀 瀀漀琀 ⠀椀昀 眀攀氀氀 猀甀猀瀀攀渀搀攀搀Ⰰ 愀 最愀氀氀漀渀 漀昀ഊboiling stew in your lap is No Fun): make it swing back and forth over ਀琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀⸀ 圀漀爀欀猀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 氀漀渀最攀爀 猀甀猀瀀攀渀猀椀漀渀 挀栀愀椀渀猀 琀栀愀渀 猀栀漀爀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 䌀漀漀欀 漀渀 挀漀愀氀猀⸀ഊ ਀䐀椀昀昀攀爀椀渀最 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀 栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 䤀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀氀愀洀攀猀⸀ 䄀猀 氀漀渀最 愀猀 礀漀甀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀ഊflames even it is IMHO faster and more efficient (or maybe I just like ਀琀漀 眀愀琀挀栀 琀栀攀 昀氀愀洀攀猀⤀⸀ 唀猀攀 猀洀愀氀氀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 漀昀 眀漀漀搀 愀渀搀 欀攀攀瀀 爀攀瀀氀攀渀椀猀栀椀渀最ഊthem often. Have plenty of firewood handy, and (for larger setups) a ਀搀攀猀椀最渀愀琀攀搀 昀椀爀攀 琀攀渀搀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䐀漀渀✀琀 眀漀爀爀礀 愀戀漀甀琀 瀀漀琀猀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 戀氀愀挀欀 昀爀漀洀 猀漀漀琀㨀 琀栀攀礀 眀漀爀欀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀栀愀琀ഊway, so why polish them after every use (some people do!)? ਀ഊ> Solid blocks of ice will keep food cool longer than drink type ice (I ਀㸀 洀愀搀攀 愀渀 椀挀攀戀漀砀 戀礀 氀椀渀椀渀最 愀 琀漀甀爀渀攀礀 挀栀攀猀琀 愀渀搀 搀爀漀瀀 椀渀 氀椀搀 眀椀琀栀 ㄀∀ 猀漀氀椀搀ഊ> foam - stays cool for 1 week). Frozen stews and potages help keep ਀㸀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 挀漀漀氀⸀ 唀䠀吀 洀椀氀欀 愀渀搀 挀爀攀愀洀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀ഊ ਀唀猀攀 攀瘀愀瀀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀 挀漀漀氀椀渀最 昀漀爀 欀攀攀瀀椀渀最 猀琀甀昀昀 挀漀漀氀Ⰰ 漀爀 戀甀爀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀⸀ഊ ਀⼀唀氀昀刀ഊ(Back*woods*, not backwards.) ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀഊPar Leijonhufvud parlei(at)algonet.se ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ 㤀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㔀㨀　㔀㨀㐀㜀 匀䄀匀吀ⴀ㈀ഊFrom: "Ian van Tets" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 嘀㄀ ⌀㠀㄀㌀ഊ ਀ 吀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 愀 猀栀漀爀琀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 漀渀 琀栀攀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊover fires and the pointers we need to remember. One I learnt from ਀挀漀漀欀椀渀最 甀渀搀攀爀 愀渀 漀瀀攀渀 挀栀椀洀渀攀礀 椀猀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 氀椀搀猀 漀渀 瀀漀琀猀⸀  匀漀漀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀ഊtaste nice. If boiling liquid off, then leave the lid propped up on ਀愀 猀瀀漀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀氀氀漀眀 洀漀爀攀 琀椀洀攀 琀栀愀渀 甀猀甀愀氀⸀ഊ ਀䌀愀椀爀椀猀琀椀漀渀愀⸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:44:25 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䐀攀挀欀攀爀Ⰰ 吀攀爀爀礀 䐀⸀∀ 㰀吀攀爀爀礀䐀 愀琀 䠀攀愀氀琀栀⸀匀琀愀琀攀⸀伀䬀⸀唀匀㸀ഊSubject: RE: SC - Fw: Fireplace cooking info anone? ਀ഊYou can find the International Dutch Oven Society at: ਀眀眀眀⸀椀搀漀猀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀䄀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀氀攀 渀漀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 昀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 洀愀礀 栀攀氀瀀⸀ഊ ਀䨀⸀ 圀愀礀渀攀 䘀攀愀爀猀Ⰰ 䈀愀挀欀挀漀甀渀琀爀礀 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最  䤀匀䈀一 　ⴀ㤀㄀㐀㜀㠀㠀ⴀ㄀㤀ⴀ㄀ ⠀栀戀⤀ഊ ISBN 0-914788-20-5 (pb) ਀ഊMel Marshall, Complete Book of Outdoor Cookery ISBN 0-442-26437-2 ਀ഊUnfortunately, both are probably out of print. ਀ഊBear ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㌀　 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㔀㨀　㈀㨀㐀㐀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: "R. Trigg" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀眀㨀 䘀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀昀漀 愀渀漀渀攀㼀ഊ ਀㸀䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 欀渀漀眀漀昀 愀渀礀 猀椀琀攀猀 漀爀 戀漀漀欀猀 眀琀椀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀 昀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 漀爀 䐀甀琀挀栀ഊ>oven cooking? ਀ഊYour friend might try "Hearthside Cooking" by Nancy Carter Crump, ISBN ਀⌀　ⴀ㤀㄀㐀㐀㐀　ⴀ㤀㐀ⴀ㈀㬀 䔀倀䴀 倀甀戀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀⸀Ⰰ 䴀挀䰀攀愀渀Ⰰ 嘀䄀㬀 ␀㄀㤀⸀㤀㔀⸀ 䤀琀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀猀ഊ18th and 19th century recipes with methods for cooking on a hearth. ਀ഊLady Nostas'ia Stepanova ਀䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 倀漀渀琀攀 䄀氀琀漀Ⰰ 䄀琀氀愀渀琀椀愀ഊ(Alexandria, VA) ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㌀　 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㐀㨀　㤀㨀㄀㌀ ⴀ　㠀　　 ⠀倀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: Donna Hrynkiw ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀眀㨀 䘀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀昀漀 愀渀漀渀攀㼀ഊ ਀㸀䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 欀渀漀眀漀昀 愀渀礀 猀椀琀攀猀 漀爀 戀漀漀欀猀 眀琀椀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀 昀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 漀爀 䐀甀琀挀栀ഊ>oven cooking? Thanks! ਀㸀ⴀ䨀愀渀渀愀 䈀愀爀漀渀ഊ>(Alessandra) ਀ഊThere's a bit of info about dutch ovens (not a 'recipe' per se) at: ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀猀甀渀猀椀琀攀⸀甀渀挀⸀攀搀甀⼀氀漀渀搀漀渀⼀爀甀爀愀氀⼀昀漀漀搀⼀猀漀甀爀搀漀甀最栀⼀最攀渀攀爀愀氀⼀搀甀琀挀栀ⴀ漀瘀攀渀⸀挀愀洀瀀ⴀ漀瘀攀渀ഊ ਀䔀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀ഊdonna at kwantlen.bc.ca ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㈀㌀㨀㔀㐀㨀㔀㄀ 䔀匀吀ഊFrom: kathleen.hogan at juno.com (Kathleen M Hogan) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䄀 渀攀眀 琀栀爀攀愀搀ഊ ਀圀攀 搀椀搀 愀 ∀刀漀戀椀渀 䠀漀漀搀∀ 琀栀攀洀攀 昀漀爀 漀甀爀 䌀栀漀挀漀氀愀琀攀 䴀椀渀攀 刀愀椀搀猀 愀 昀攀眀 礀攀愀爀猀 戀愀挀欀ഊat a site that had NO kitchen facilities. We cooked a venison stew in a ਀挀愀猀琀 椀爀漀渀 挀愀甀氀搀漀渀 漀瘀攀爀 愀渀 漀瀀攀渀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 戀爀攀愀搀 愀渀搀ഊcheese. Probably the simplest feast we've ever done and it was enjoyed ਀琀栀漀爀漀甀最栀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀䌀愀椀琀氀椀渀 一椀挀䘀栀椀漀渀最栀甀椀渀ഊHouse Oak & Thistle ਀匀栀椀爀攀 漀昀 䈀漀爀搀攀爀嘀愀氀攀 䬀攀攀瀀Ⰰ 䄀琀氀愀渀琀椀愀ഊAugusta, GA ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㔀㨀　　㨀㌀㔀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: renfrow at skylands.net (Cindy Renfrow) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀ഊ ਀㸀匀瀀攀愀欀椀渀最 漀昀 眀栀椀挀栀Ⰰ 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 琀栀漀猀攀 攀砀瀀攀爀琀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀⼀漀渀 琀栀椀猀 氀椀猀琀 洀愀礀 琀攀氀氀 洀攀ഊ>what is their favorite recipe(s) to use when cooking out of doors? the feast ਀㸀椀渀 樀甀氀礀 椀猀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 戀攀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀猀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 洀礀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 栀漀甀猀攀 ⠀愀戀漀甀琀 ㌀㔀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⤀ 愀渀搀 䤀ഊ>have access to grocery stores (read:small town, 160 people) about 10 min from ਀㸀猀椀琀攀⸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 昀愀戀氀攀搀 ✀漀戀猀挀攀渀攀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀✀⸀ 㬀⤀  吀栀攀 戀椀爀搀 椀猀 瀀氀愀挀攀搀 甀瀀爀椀最栀琀ഊon a grill over the coals, or dangled on a string, & repeatedly brushed ਀眀椀琀栀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀攀搀 戀愀琀琀攀爀 琀椀氀 搀漀渀攀⸀  吀栀攀 戀椀爀搀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 樀甀椀挀礀 ☀ 搀攀氀椀挀椀漀甀猀⸀ഊ ਀䌀椀渀搀礀 刀攀渀昀爀漀眀ഊrenfrow at skylands.net ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㔀㨀㄀㈀㨀㌀㠀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: "Alderton, Philippa" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 攀愀猀椀攀猀琀 琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀猀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 挀愀爀渀椀瘀漀爀漀甀猀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀ഊHunter's Stew. It has different names in different cultures, but basicly, ਀愀氀氀 琀栀攀礀✀搀 搀漀 椀猀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀猀 挀愀琀挀栀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 椀琀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀ⴀ 戀椀爀搀猀 漀爀 最愀洀攀Ⰰഊthrow it in a pot and boil it until it was tender. While you might not have ਀愀挀挀攀猀猀 琀漀 眀椀氀搀 最愀洀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 琀爀礀Ⰰ 猀愀礀Ⰰ 愀 氀攀最 漀昀 氀愀洀戀Ⰰ 愀 挀栀甀渀欀 漀昀 瀀漀爀欀Ⰰഊanother of beef, a couple of chickens, maybe a duck or a rabbit, and so ਀昀漀爀琀栀ⴀ 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀愀爀渀椀瘀漀爀攀✀猀 戀漀甀椀氀氀椀戀愀椀猀猀攀⤀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 漀瀀琀椀漀渀 椀渀 爀漀愀猀琀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 挀栀漀猀攀渀 洀攀愀琀猀 漀瘀攀爀 愀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 攀愀猀礀ഊenough to do if you're experienced with grilling outside- just choose your ਀昀椀爀攀眀漀漀搀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀氀礀ⴀ 漀愀欀Ⰰ 愀瀀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀椀挀欀漀爀礀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀 琀愀猀琀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 猀琀愀礀 愀眀愀礀ഊfrom things like pine unless you want your food to taste like turpentine) ਀ഊPhlip ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㈀ 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 　㠀㨀㐀㜀㨀㌀　 ⴀ　㠀　　ഊFrom: Anne-Marie Rousseau ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀渀昀漀ഊ ਀䠀椀 愀氀氀 昀爀漀洀 䄀渀渀攀ⴀ䴀愀爀椀攀ഊ ਀眀攀✀爀攀 愀猀欀攀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 眀攀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 搀漀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀猀⸀ 圀攀氀氀⸀⸀⸀⸀㨀⤀ഊ ਀圀攀✀瘀攀 猀瀀攀渀琀 愀氀氀 漀昀 氀愀猀琀 猀甀洀洀攀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀氀氀 漀甀爀 洀攀愀氀猀 漀瘀攀爀 愀渀 漀瀀攀渀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰഊusing only 15th century appropriate recipes. (we're doing 1470 Bruges ਀爀攀ⴀ攀渀愀挀琀洀攀渀琀⤀⸀ 伀甀爀 挀漀渀挀氀甀猀椀漀渀猀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 䄀䰀䰀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀漀爀欀ഊover an open fire! Lo and behold, unless they require an oven, it is all ਀眀攀氀氀 猀甀椀琀攀搀⸀ 䄀洀愀稀椀渀最Ⰰ 渀漀㼀 䔀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀愀琀✀猀 栀漀眀 吀䠀䔀夀ഊdid it :). (the oven thing could likely have been gotten around using ਀洀漀搀攀爀渀 搀甀琀挀栀 漀瘀攀渀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀 搀攀挀椀搀攀搀 渀漀琀 琀漀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最漀琀 漀甀爀 戀愀欀攀搀 最漀漀搀猀ഊfrom the "bake house") ਀ഊSeriously, its pretty cool that so many medieval recipes are essentially ਀∀栀愀挀欀 琀漀 最漀戀戀攀琀猀Ⰰ 猀瀀椀挀攀 琀椀氀 椀琀猀 最漀漀搀 愀渀搀 戀漀椀氀 琀椀氀氀 椀琀猀 搀漀渀攀∀⸀ 吀栀椀挀欀攀渀椀渀最 椀猀ഊdone with particulates and/or reduction that dont require fussy heat like ਀愀渀 攀洀甀氀猀椀漀渀 琀栀椀挀欀攀渀攀爀⸀ 䔀瘀攀渀 爀椀挀攀 愀渀搀 戀愀爀氀攀礀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 瀀漀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀ഊgood lid work just great. My only "cheat" is that I'm not comfortable ਀挀漀漀欀椀渀最 氀愀爀最攀 栀甀渀欀猀 漀昀 愀渀椀洀愀氀 昀氀攀猀栀 ⠀洀礀 椀渀猀琀愀 爀攀愀搀 琀栀攀爀洀漀洀攀琀攀爀 椀猀渀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀ഊ15th century appropriate, you know? and I've gotten food poisoning once ਀昀爀漀洀 甀渀搀攀爀搀漀渀攀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀⸀ 唀最栀⸀⤀ 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 漀昀琀攀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀愀爀欀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀ഊoften will pre-cook whole chickens, roasts, etc at home, and then grill or ਀猀瀀椀琀 琀栀攀洀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 琀漀 眀愀爀洀 琀栀攀洀 甀瀀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀 洀礀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀 椀猀 琀漀 瀀椀挀欀 礀漀甀爀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 椀洀瀀甀渀椀琀礀⸀ 吀栀攀礀ഊwere originally meant to be cooked over an open fire, so you cant go wrong. ਀ഊ- --AM ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㈀　㨀㔀㜀㨀㔀㐀 ⴀ　㠀　　 ⠀倀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: Laura C Minnick ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊ ਀伀渀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 刀漀猀攀吀栀猀琀氀攀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> Does anyone have any ideas how to cook a roast slowly on site? ਀ഊMy friend Ivar Juana-Sweetie (Sorry- I can't spell that fool Norse last ਀渀愀洀攀 漀昀 栀椀猀⤀ 栀愀猀 琀栀攀猀攀 挀漀漀氀 挀氀愀礀ⴀ戀愀欀攀爀⼀猀洀漀欀攀爀 漀瘀攀渀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 挀愀氀氀攀搀ഊa 'Komodo Pot'- Japanese, I think. When I made Cormarye for my feast ਀猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀Ⰰ 眀攀 爀漀愀猀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 瀀漀爀欀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䬀漀洀漀搀漀 倀漀琀 愀渀搀 椀琀 眀愀猀ഊwonderful. They are rather expensive though, IIRC. But I understand that a ਀圀攀戀攀爀ⴀ猀琀礀氀攀 欀攀琀琀氀攀 䈀䈀儀Ⰰ 琀漀瀀 搀漀眀渀 愀渀搀 挀漀愀氀猀 氀漀眀Ⰰ 搀漀攀猀 愀 搀攀挀攀渀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 樀漀戀ഊtoo. ਀ഊ'Lainie ਀ⴀ ⴀഊLaura C. Minnick ਀唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 伀爀攀最漀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:49:46 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䴀愀爀最漀 䘀愀爀渀猀眀漀爀琀栀∀ 㰀洀愀爀最漀欀攀椀欀漀 愀琀 攀猀猀氀椀渀欀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Outdoor cooking ਀ഊ>> Does anyone have any ideas how to cook a roast slowly on site? \ ਀ഊLodge makes a cast iron game cooker (a longish oval type dutch oven). If ਀礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 昀椀爀攀 瀀椀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 瀀氀愀挀攀 琀栀攀 爀漀愀猀琀 椀渀猀椀搀攀Ⰰ 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀 氀椀搀 漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊplace coals around the outside and on the lid. This takes some monitoring ਀琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 栀愀渀最 漀昀 眀栀愀琀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀 椀猀 爀攀愀挀栀椀渀最⸀  圀攀ഊalso bake bread this way. ਀ഊFaoiltighearna ਀吀漀爀瘀愀氀搀✀猀 䠀椀爀搀ഊCanton of Ravenhill, BBM, East ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 　㠀㨀㈀㔀㨀㌀㘀 䔀匀吀ഊFrom: Mordonna22 at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊ ਀刀漀猀攀吀栀猀琀氀攀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ> Does anyone have any ideas how to cook a roast slowly on site? ਀ഊThe day before, burn enough wood in a 55 gallon drum to build a bed of coals ਀搀攀攀瀀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 戀甀爀礀 礀漀甀爀 瀀愀渀⸀  倀氀愀挀攀 琀栀攀 爀漀愀猀琀 椀渀 愀 氀愀爀最攀Ⰰ 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 爀漀愀猀琀椀渀最ഊpan sealed with dough. Bury in the coals and cover with a layer of dirt. ਀䄀氀氀漀眀 琀漀 爀漀愀猀琀 漀瘀攀爀渀椀最栀琀⸀ഊ ਀䴀漀爀搀漀渀渀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:04:45 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀匀栀愀爀漀渀 刀⸀ 匀愀爀漀昀昀∀ 㰀猀椀渀搀愀爀愀 愀琀 瀀漀戀漀砀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Outdoor cooking ਀ഊ>Does anyone have any ideas how to cook a roast slowly on site? ਀ഊWe used one of those large drum-shaped grills and roasted the meat slowly ਀漀瘀攀爀 挀漀愀氀猀⸀ 圀攀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 䈀攀爀最攀渀琀愀氀 愀琀 愀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 眀栀攀渀 眀攀 栀漀猀琀攀搀 琀栀攀ഊHouse Runnemead dinner (landed barons & baronesses of the East). I have ਀爀攀愀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 搀漀渀攀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀礀 䨀攀眀猀 眀栀攀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 匀愀戀戀愀琀栀 猀琀攀眀ഊHameem (Name in the Talmud) also known as Cholent. The pot was surrounded ਀戀礀 栀漀琀 挀漀愀氀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 挀漀漀氀攀搀 猀氀漀眀氀礀 愀渀搀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀琀攀渀琀猀 漀瘀攀爀渀椀最栀琀⸀  吀漀ഊkeep it warm after the coals became just warm embers, the pot was wrapped ਀椀渀 愀 戀氀愀渀欀攀琀⸀  䴀礀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 愀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 戀漀漀欀ഊcalled "The Jewish Kitchen" by Alena Krekulova & Jana Dolezalova. ਀ഊSindara ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㈀㈀㨀㄀㈀㨀㔀㤀 䔀匀吀ഊFrom: SigridPW at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊ ਀氀愀椀渀椀攀 愀琀 最氀愀搀猀琀漀渀攀⸀甀漀爀攀最漀渀⸀攀搀甀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ<< > Does anyone have any ideas how to cook a roast slowly on site? >> ਀ഊDepending on how big the roast is and what you have for heat, you can wrap ਀礀漀甀爀 洀攀愀琀 椀渀 昀漀椀氀 愀渀搀 琀栀爀漀眀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀栀愀爀挀漀愀氀⸀  圀爀愀瀀 椀琀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 琀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊturn it every so often. I've done this several time to good effect. It seems ਀琀漀 眀漀爀欀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 漀渀 最漀漀搀 挀甀琀猀 ⠀䤀✀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 瀀爀椀洀攀 爀椀戀 琀栀椀猀 眀愀礀⤀ 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 琀栀攀ഊcheaper ones. Charcoal is better than wood (more even and controllable heat), ਀戀甀琀 椀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀⸀  䤀 眀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 眀漀漀搀 昀椀爀攀 昀漀爀 愀 昀椀爀猀琀 愀琀琀攀洀瀀琀⸀ഊIt's really much more work. ਀ഊLady Giuglia Madelena Sarducci ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 　㘀㨀㌀㄀㨀㌀　 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: "Decker, Terry D." ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 伀吀 ⴀ 匀吀䤀刀䈀刀䤀䐀䜀䔀 嘀䤀䰀䰀䄀䜀䔀 ⠀䘀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⤀ഊ ਀㸀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀ഊ> fireplace cooking other than boyscout type hand books (not that there's ਀㸀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 眀爀漀渀最 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 猀愀礀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀栀愀渀 昀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀ഊ> cooks say). ਀㸀ഊ> Melisande ਀ഊGoldenson, Suzanne, and Simpson, Doris, The Open-Hearth Cookbook, Feasts ਀昀爀漀洀 礀漀甀爀 䘀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀㬀吀栀攀 匀琀攀瀀栀攀渀 䜀爀攀攀渀攀 倀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ 䈀爀愀琀琀氀攀戀漀爀漀Ⰰ 嘀攀爀洀漀渀琀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀㈀⸀ഊISBN 0-8289-0471-5 ਀ഊMaybe not the book mentioned, But useful. ਀ഊBear ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 　㤀㨀　㜀㨀㈀㘀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: "D. Clay-Disparti" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 伀吀 ⴀ 匀吀䤀刀䈀刀䤀䐀䜀䔀 嘀䤀䰀䰀䄀䜀䔀 ⠀䘀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⤀ഊ ਀䤀 愀洀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 戀甀礀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 戀漀漀欀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 氀椀欀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊone I have had for quite a few years... ਀ഊAmerican Wood Heat Cookery by Margaret Byrd Adams ਀倀愀挀椀昀椀挀 匀攀愀爀挀栀 倀爀攀猀猀   䤀匀䈀一  　ⴀ㤀㄀㐀㜀㄀㠀ⴀ㤀㄀ⴀ㘀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 洀漀猀琀氀礀 最攀愀爀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀漀漀搀 猀琀漀瘀攀 戀甀琀 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀琀 甀猀攀昀甀氀 眀栀椀氀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 漀瘀攀爀 ഊa wood fire while we were putting our utilities in on our place in North Carolina (which has gone the way of all things past, sob, sob.) ਀ഊIsabella/Dee ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀　㨀㔀㠀㨀㐀㐀 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: Acanthusbk at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 伀吀 ⴀ 匀吀䤀刀䈀刀䤀䐀䜀䔀 嘀䤀䰀䰀䄀䜀䔀 ⠀䘀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⤀ഊ ਀䤀 椀洀愀最椀渀攀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 开䠀攀愀爀琀栀猀椀搀攀 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最开 戀礀 一愀渀挀礀 䌀愀爀琀攀爀 䌀爀甀洀瀀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀ഊdescription on my website at ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀愀挀愀渀琀栀甀猀ⴀ戀漀漀欀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀愀挀愀渀琀栀甀猀ⴀ戀漀漀欀猀⼀栀攀愀爀挀漀漀欀㄀㠀㄀㤀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀䄀洀愀渀搀愀ഊAcanthus Books ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀愀挀愀渀琀栀甀猀ⴀ戀漀漀欀猀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:28:51 -0400 (EDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 挀挀氀愀爀欀 愀琀 瘀椀挀漀渀⸀渀攀琀ഊSubject: Re: SC - For Submission to the Chronus ਀ഊMordonna wrote: ਀㸀 ⸀⸀⸀ 䜀爀椀氀氀 漀瘀攀爀 愀 栀漀琀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰ 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 瀀漀爀欀 椀猀 搀漀渀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊ>center. Save any drippings ... ਀ഊI was just looking at some period pictures in _Fast_and_Feast_ by Bridget ਀䄀渀渀 䠀攀渀椀猀挀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 氀漀漀欀猀 琀漀 洀攀 氀椀欀攀 椀琀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀漀 最爀椀氀氀⼀爀漀愀猀琀ഊ*beside* the fire, not over it. That way the drippings pan can go next to ਀琀栀攀 戀愀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 最漀椀渀最 甀瀀 愀眀愀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 瀀愀渀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀ഊdrippings going only into the pan and not into the fire. ਀ഊThe spatial arrangement would be something like this: ਀ഊ meat ਀昀氀愀洀攀猀ഊ ਀ 眀漀漀搀     瀀愀渀ഊ ਀䈀甀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 礀攀琀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 氀攀愀爀渀椀渀最 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 眀椀琀栀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀椀猀 琀漀 戀攀 渀漀ഊmore than a hypothesis. ਀ഊAlex Clark/Henry of Maldon ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀　 䨀愀渀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㘀㨀㄀㈀㨀㌀㔀 ⴀ　㜀　　ഊFrom: Steven Cowley ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 愀 最爀椀搀㼀ഊ ਀䰀甀爀欀椀渀最 䜀椀爀氀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ< I've seen a widget of that ilk at Syke's Sutlering at Pennsic. Almost ਀    瀀椀挀欀攀搀 椀琀 甀瀀 氀愀猀琀 礀攀愀爀Ⰰ 琀漀漀ⴀⴀ䤀 愀洀 栀漀瀀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 愀氀氀ⴀ漀瀀攀渀ⴀ昀椀爀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀ഊ our camp next (this?) year, though I think I'm biting off more than I ਀    挀愀渀 挀栀攀眀⸀ 㸀ഊ ਀䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 漀渀 愀渀 漀瀀攀渀 昀椀爀攀 挀愀渀 戀攀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 爀攀眀愀爀搀椀渀最 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀⸀  䔀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 眀栀攀渀ഊeverything comes together. Anyone can be successful at it if they are willing to be patient and practice. As in any other of the almost forgotten arts, it takes time to learn to do it well. You can be a 5 star chef in a modern kitchen and turn out magnificant "period" dishes and still destroy a pork chop in the fire. I have been working at this skill for more than 20 years now, long before I ever heard of the SCA, and still manage to ruin a dish from time to time. ਀ഊA couple of thoughts on the subject that might be of general help to anyone who ਀瘀攀渀琀甀爀攀猀 搀漀眀渀 琀栀椀猀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 昀漀爀最漀琀琀攀渀 瀀愀琀栀⸀ഊ ਀㄀⸀ 䘀漀爀 戀攀最椀渀渀攀爀猀Ⰰ 猀琀椀挀欀 琀漀 昀漀漀搀 猀琀甀昀昀猀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 昀愀洀椀氀氀椀愀爀 眀椀琀栀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 渀漀琀ഊ the time to be trying out that new recipe you just received. Work with ਀   爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀 挀栀愀爀愀挀琀攀爀椀猀琀椀挀猀 漀昀⸀ഊ2. Heat can be your best friend or your worst enemy. Find and use the most ਀   挀漀渀猀椀猀琀愀渀琀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最 昀甀攀氀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀⸀ 䐀漀渀✀琀 戀爀椀渀最 椀渀 愀 琀爀甀挀欀 昀甀氀氀 漀昀 挀甀琀 甀瀀 ㈀砀㐀猀ഊ and expect to accomplish much more than a stew. Generally, the longer your ਀   昀甀攀氀 戀甀爀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀愀渀琀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀⸀  䐀漀渀✀琀 戀攀 愀昀爀愀椀搀 琀漀 戀爀椀渀最 椀渀 愀 戀愀最ഊ or two of charcoal for your first venture. It will be worth its weight in ਀   最漀氀搀⸀ഊ3. Wind IS your worst enemy. It blows the heat away. Make sure that you have ਀   猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 眀椀渀搀 戀爀攀愀欀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 洀漀瘀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 眀漀爀欀 愀爀漀甀渀搀⸀  䤀ഊ have cooked successfully with two feet of snow on the ground, and been unable ਀   琀漀 戀愀欀攀 愀 挀愀欀攀 漀渀 愀 眀愀爀洀 猀甀洀洀攀爀 搀愀礀Ⰰ 搀甀攀 攀渀琀椀爀攀氀礀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀⸀ഊ4. Cast iron pots and pans are your friends. They will distribute and hold the ਀   栀攀愀琀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 攀氀猀攀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 攀渀瘀椀爀漀渀洀攀渀琀⸀  吀栀甀猀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 ഊ need less fuel to do the same job. ਀㔀⸀ 䠀愀瘀攀 昀甀渀℀  䈀爀攀愀搀 漀渀 愀 猀琀椀挀欀 挀愀渀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 氀椀瘀攀渀 甀瀀 愀 挀愀洀瀀⸀ 䔀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 眀栀攀渀ഊ everyone has to cook their own. ਀ഊThere are a lot of other howtos and whatfors, but the bottom line is, with careful planning and lots of practice, you can eat very well without ever turning on a propane stove. I wish you all the best. I just wish I could be there to cook with you. ਀ഊSteffan of the Close ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀　 䨀愀渀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㘀㨀　㈀㨀㌀㐀 ⴀ　㠀　　ഊFrom: "James F. Johnson" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 漀瘀攀爀 ✀昀椀爀攀✀ 眀愀猀 爀攀㨀 愀 最爀椀搀㼀ഊ ਀㸀 夀漀甀 挀愀渀 戀攀 愀 㔀 猀琀愀爀 挀栀攀昀 椀渀 愀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀渀搀 琀甀爀渀 漀甀琀 洀愀最渀椀昀椀挀愀渀琀ഊ> "period" dishes and still destroy a pork chop in the fire. I have ਀ഊInteresting. I grew up in mundane Scouting, cooking over campfires, and ਀氀愀琀攀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀 挀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀⸀ 䤀 昀椀渀搀 椀琀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 漀瘀攀爀 眀漀漀搀ഊfires, charcoal, or gas ranges in a commercial kitchen than I do on ਀攀氀攀挀琀爀椀挀 攀氀攀洀攀渀琀猀 漀昀琀攀渀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 搀漀洀攀猀琀椀挀 栀漀甀猀攀栀漀氀搀猀 愀渀搀 愀 昀攀眀ഊ'community' kitchens. I can look at a flame and judge it's heat. ਀䔀氀攀洀攀渀琀猀 戀愀昀昀氀攀 洀攀 愀渀搀 䤀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 琀爀礀 琀漀 甀渀搀攀爀 猀攀琀 琀栀攀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 愀渀搀ഊraise it gently if needed. I'm more likely to burn stuff on an element. ਀䨀甀猀琀 洀攀Ⰰ 䤀 猀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 戀愀猀椀挀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀 䤀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 猀琀爀攀猀猀 椀猀Ⰰ 攀砀挀攀瀀琀 昀漀爀 最愀猀 爀愀渀最攀猀Ⰰ 䤀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀ഊto cook on coals, not flames. Whether they are the convenient charcoal ਀挀漀愀氀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 琀栀攀 戀甀爀渀琀 搀漀眀渀 昀椀爀攀眀漀漀搀Ⰰ 挀漀愀氀猀 最椀瘀攀 愀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀攀渀琀 栀攀愀琀 愀渀搀ഊsoot the pot less. Flames are fickle from the slightest breeze and are ਀攀椀琀栀攀爀 琀漀漀 洀甀挀栀 漀爀 渀漀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 昀爀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀渀最 琀漀 最攀琀 愀 最漀漀搀ഊbed of coals going, only to have some helpful person pile more wood on ਀琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 猀琀愀爀琀 椀琀 戀氀愀稀椀渀最 愀最愀椀渀⸀ 䰀椀欀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 漀瘀攀爀 愀 戀氀漀眀琀漀爀挀栀⸀ ഊ ਀䄀渀搀Ⰰ 礀攀猀Ⰰ 挀愀猀琀 椀爀漀渀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 瘀愀氀甀愀戀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 椀猀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀琀 眀椀氀氀 琀愀欀攀 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 戀甀爀渀 搀漀眀渀ഊto coals, it will take time to heat up the cast iron. And I try to have ਀愀 瀀漀琀 爀攀愀搀礀 昀漀爀 搀椀猀栀眀愀琀攀爀 愀琀 栀愀渀搀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 眀栀攀渀攀瘀攀爀 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀ഊusing a spot for cooking, the pot goes on to get a head start on heating ਀愀渀搀 渀漀琀 琀漀 眀愀猀琀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀愀氀猀⸀ ഊ ਀匀攀甀洀愀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:16:50 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䨀攀昀昀 䜀攀搀渀攀礀∀ 㰀䨀䜀攀搀渀攀礀 愀琀 搀椀挀琀愀瀀栀漀渀攀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - a grid? ਀ഊI shall attempt to reply to a few of these: ਀ഊ> > 2. Heat can be your best friend or your worst enemy. Find and use the most ਀㸀 㸀    挀漀渀猀椀猀琀愀渀琀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最 昀甀攀氀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀⸀  ഊ> ਀㸀 䰀愀猀琀 礀攀愀爀 ⠀琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 礀攀愀爀 䤀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 愀渀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 昀椀爀攀瀀椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 搀椀搀 栀愀瘀攀ഊ> stove backup) I didn't have actual fire_making_ problems, unless you count ਀㸀 戀攀椀渀最 猀琀甀挀欀 椀渀 挀愀洀瀀 愀氀氀 搀愀洀渀 愀昀琀攀爀渀漀漀渀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 愀渀 攀礀攀 漀渀 椀琀⸀ 㨀ⴀ⼀  吀栀攀 洀愀樀漀爀ഊ> problem was smoke. ਀ഊHere you should use the wind to your advantage. ਀䐀攀琀攀爀洀椀渀最 琀栀攀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀攀瘀愀椀氀椀渀最 眀椀渀搀猀 琀栀愀琀 搀愀礀⸀ ഊThey may vary a lot, but the general tendencies will show if you watch ਀眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 猀洀漀欀攀 最漀攀猀Ⰰ 瀀愀琀椀攀渀琀氀礀 伀渀挀攀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀 ∀瀀爀攀瘀愀椀氀椀渀最∀ 眀椀渀搀 ഊdirection, keep your back to it, and the smoke should blow away from ਀礀漀甀Ⰰ 最攀渀攀爀愀氀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀伀琀栀攀爀 栀椀渀琀猀㨀 ഊ ਀洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 栀漀漀欀 漀爀 猀漀洀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀漀漀氀 琀漀 瀀甀氀氀 琀栀攀 瀀甀琀 琀漀 礀漀甀 ഊsomewhat, Closer to the edge of the fire pit, if you need to get into it. ਀吀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 愀氀氀漀眀 礀漀甀 愀挀挀攀猀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀琀攀渀琀猀 爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀氀礀 昀爀攀攀 漀昀 猀洀漀欀攀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 戀椀最 瀀漀琀Ⰰ 甀渀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 戀愀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 琀爀礀 渀漀琀 洀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 ഊALL the way around it, to allow access form that side fior stirring. as long ਀愀猀 琀栀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 猀琀椀爀爀攀搀Ⰰ 椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀 渀漀琀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 洀甀挀栀 椀昀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 椀猀 ഊapplied to one side or all wht way around. Cast iron and stirring will ਀搀椀猀琀爀椀戀甀琀攀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 攀昀昀攀挀琀椀瘀攀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀䈀攀昀漀爀攀 礀漀甀 猀琀愀爀琀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 爀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 氀愀爀最攀 甀渀戀甀爀渀琀 挀栀甀渀欀猀 漀昀 眀漀漀搀 ⠀ 眀栀椀挀栀 ഊgenerate the bulk of the smoke ) AWAY form the coals ( Which generate ਀琀栀攀 戀甀氀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 ⤀Ⰰ 瀀爀攀昀攀爀愀戀氀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀 琀栀攀 瀀爀攀瘀愀椀氀椀渀最 眀椀渀搀猀 琀攀渀搀 ഊto blow. As the large chunks burn down to coals, rake them into the ਀愀爀攀愀 眀栀攀爀攀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最⸀ 琀栀椀猀 眀椀氀氀 愀氀氀漀眀 礀漀甀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 愀 爀攀瀀氀攀渀椀猀栀椀渀最 ഊsupply of cooking coals. ( this is actually an old blacksmith's trick ) ਀ഊ> > 3. Wind IS your worst enemy. It blows the heat away. Make sure that you ਀㸀 㸀      栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 眀椀渀搀 戀爀攀愀欀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 洀漀瘀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 眀漀爀欀 ഊ> > around. ਀㸀 ഊ> How large does such a thing need to be? Ankle, knee, waist? I would ਀㸀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 爀椀最 愀渀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 爀漀漀昀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀爀攀愀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 最攀琀琀椀渀最ഊ> rained on while tending the stew really bites, but even with our tiny ਀㸀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 愀 栀椀最栀 爀漀漀昀Ⰰ 䤀 椀洀愀最椀渀攀 琀栀攀 䘀椀爀攀 匀愀昀攀琀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀漀甀氀搀ഊ> have a cow. ਀ഊTypically, the sides of the fire pit are fine, if the pit is deep enough, or there is a wall of rocks around the pit, to the height of the cooking grid. ਀夀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 琀栀攀 愀瘀漀椀搀 愀 攀砀挀攀猀猀 漀昀 眀椀渀搀 戀攀氀漀眀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 氀攀瘀攀氀 ⠀䄀戀漀瘀攀 椀琀 ഊthe heat is lost to you anyway!), unless you are smoking meat. ਀夀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀 戀爀攀愀欀 愀氀氀漀眀猀 愀椀爀 琀漀 昀氀漀眀 ഊinto the pit at ground level, to keep the fire form starving for oxygen. ਀ഊA roof would not be useful for a windbreak. ਀䄀氀猀漀 欀攀攀瀀 椀渀 洀椀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀 眀愀氀氀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 瘀攀爀琀椀挀愀氀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀 挀氀漀猀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀瀀椀琀 ഊwill draw the smoke to it when the wind blows, so you probably do not ਀眀愀渀琀 琀漀 琀爀礀 愀 栀椀最栀 眀椀渀搀 戀爀攀愀欀 眀椀琀栀 愀 爀漀漀昀 愀渀礀眀愀礀Ⰰ 猀椀渀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 漀渀氀礀 ഊensure that _you_ are smoked like a kipper. ਀ഊUse an umbrella. inconvenient, but the best option, as far as fire safety ਀最漀攀猀⸀ ⠀ 挀氀漀愀欀猀 愀渀搀 瀀漀渀挀栀漀猀 挀愀渀 最攀 甀猀攀昀甀氀 戀甀琀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 洀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 ഊtrailing edges around the fire. ) have a friend hold, if you need both ਀栀愀渀搀猀⸀ഊ ਀䈀爀愀渀搀甀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:41:43 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䐀攀挀欀攀爀Ⰰ 䴀愀爀最愀爀攀琀∀ 㰀洀愀爀最愀爀攀琀 愀琀 䠀攀愀氀琀栀⸀匀琀愀琀攀⸀伀䬀⸀唀匀㸀ഊSubject: RE: SC - How do I get started? ਀ഊOn Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Heather-Enaya Parr-Blake wrote: ਀㸀 䤀 愀洀 渀攀眀 琀漀 琀栀攀 昀椀攀氀搀 漀昀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀渀搀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀⸀ഊ> I belong to a newly founded (well nearly founded) shire ਀㸀 椀渀 一漀爀琀栀攀爀渀 䬀攀渀琀甀挀欀礀⸀ 䤀 愀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀ഊ> recipes and gear. Particularly in the gear department, ਀㸀 䤀 愀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 瀀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀渀猀 栀攀愀瘀礀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 挀漀洀攀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀ഊ> campfire/hearth cooking. ਀ ഊ Everyone else has said a lot about pots & pans etc. I would ਀爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 愀氀猀漀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 椀渀瘀攀猀琀 椀渀 愀 ㄀　　─ 眀漀漀氀 猀欀椀爀琀 漀爀 搀爀攀猀猀 愀渀搀 愀 ㄀　　─ഊlinen chemise, apron , and head wrap. Linen is slower to catch fire than ਀挀漀琀琀漀渀 愀渀搀 眀漀漀氀 椀猀 攀瘀攀渀 猀氀漀眀攀爀 ⠀甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 漀渀氀礀 猀洀漀氀搀攀爀猀⤀⸀ 䰀椀渀攀渀 愀氀猀漀 洀愀欀攀猀ഊwonderful dish towels. And please keep an ABC fire extinguisher near at hand ਀愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 愀 昀椀爀猀琀 愀椀搀攀 欀椀琀⸀ 圀攀 栀愀琀攀 氀漀漀猀椀渀最 渀攀眀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀Ⰰ 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 琀漀ഊaccidents. ਀ഊMargarite ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㔀㨀㄀㐀㨀㔀㄀ ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: "Siegfried Heydrich" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀椀爀攀 瀀椀琀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊ ਀㸀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 戀椀琀 漀昀 愀 搀攀氀椀洀洀愀 䤀 眀愀猀 栀漀瀀椀渀最 礀漀甀 最漀漀搀 昀漀氀欀 挀漀甀氀搀 栀攀氀瀀 洀攀 眀椀琀栀⸀ഊ> Milady wife and I have taken an interest in cooking over an open fire. We ਀㸀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 戀漀甀最栀琀 愀 猀瀀椀琀 栀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀 爀攀愀氀 椀搀攀愀 栀漀眀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀ഊ> bloody thing. How does one gauge the height at which the food should be kept ਀㸀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀㼀 䠀漀眀 搀漀 礀漀甀 椀渀琀攀爀瀀爀攀琀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 漀渀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 愀猀 瘀愀爀椀愀戀氀攀 愀猀ഊ> an open fire? Are there any books available on the subject or is this one of ਀㸀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀爀椀愀氀 愀渀搀 攀爀爀漀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀㼀  䄀渀礀 愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀挀攀 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 漀昀昀攀爀 琀漀 瀀愀瘀攀 漀甀爀ഊ> way in the venue would be gratefully accepted. ਀㸀ഊ> Aengus MacBain ਀ഊ Use your hand - literally. Place your spit at about the height where ਀礀漀甀爀 栀愀渀搀 挀愀渀✀琀 猀琀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀⸀ 吀唀刀一 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀 㔀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊeven that's pushing it. Use a meat thermometer; if the outside is charring ਀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 椀猀 挀漀氀搀Ⰰ 爀愀椀猀攀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 愀渀搀 最漀 氀漀渀最攀爀⸀ 䐀伀一✀吀 瀀甀氀氀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀ഊoff the spit until it's 160 degrees (varies with the meat, but that's a good ਀最甀椀搀攀氀椀渀攀⤀ 䄀吀 䄀 䨀伀䤀一吀⸀ഊ The ol' mark I eyeball is a useful tool - when it looks done, let it go ਀愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 氀漀渀最攀爀 ⠀甀渀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 愀渀 甀渀爀攀瀀攀渀琀愀渀琀 挀愀爀渀椀瘀漀爀攀Ⰰ 椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 挀愀猀攀 礀漀甀ഊshould show the meat the fire, frighten it badly, and then rip it into ਀猀洀愀氀氀Ⰰ 挀栀攀眀愀戀氀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 挀栀攀挀欀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀挀欀攀猀琀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀⸀ 䤀昀ഊyou use a thin knife, run it in, leave it for 3 seconds, and lay the tip on ਀琀栀攀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 昀漀爀攀愀爀洀⸀ 夀漀甀 挀愀渀 最愀甀最攀 琀栀攀 搀漀渀攀渀攀猀猀 瘀攀爀礀 愀挀挀甀爀愀琀攀氀礀 琀栀愀琀ഊway.If you're doing fowl, pierce the leg joint, and observe the color of the ਀樀甀椀挀攀猀⸀ 䤀昀 椀琀✀猀 挀氀攀愀爀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 爀攀愀搀礀 琀漀 攀愀琀⸀ 䤀昀 椀琀 猀栀漀眀猀 爀攀搀 ⠀戀氀漀漀搀礀⤀Ⰰ 氀攀愀瘀攀 椀琀ഊon a bit longer. ਀    䄀渀搀 戀愀猀椀挀 栀椀渀琀 ⌀㄀Ⰰ 搀漀渀✀琀 挀漀漀欀 漀瘀攀爀 愀 昀椀爀攀⸀ 䌀漀漀欀 漀瘀攀爀 䌀伀䄀䰀匀⸀ 䄀 昀椀爀攀 眀椀氀氀ഊchar, but not cook, it'll burn. What you want is a slow, even heat, and ਀琀栀愀琀✀猀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 昀爀漀洀 挀漀愀氀猀⸀ഊ ਀    匀椀攀最最礀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:40:20 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䨀椀洀 刀攀瘀攀氀氀猀∀ 㰀猀甀搀渀猀攀爀瘀㔀 愀琀 渀攀琀眀愀礀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Fire pit cooking ਀ഊHej! Aengus, ਀ऀ䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 倀椀琀 ⼀伀瀀攀渀 䘀椀爀攀 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀  吀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 椀猀 氀攀琀ഊhardwood (or use Real Hardwood Charcoal not briquets) to burn down to coals ਀琀栀攀渀 瀀氀愀挀攀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 愀琀 愀 栀攀椀最栀琀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 琀漀漀 栀漀琀 栀漀氀搀 礀漀甀爀 栀愀渀搀 昀漀爀 洀漀爀攀ഊthan a few seconds (this is a judgment call & you learn by doing it). Then ਀欀攀攀瀀 愀 猀瀀爀愀礀 戀漀琀琀氀攀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 栀愀渀搀礀 琀漀 欀渀漀挀欀 搀漀眀渀 愀渀礀 洀愀樀漀爀 昀氀愀洀攀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊthreaten to burn the meat (very important with pork, again how high you let ਀琀栀攀 昀氀愀洀攀猀 最攀琀 椀猀 愀 樀甀搀最洀攀渀琀 挀愀氀氀⤀⸀ 吀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 猀甀爀攀 眀愀礀 琀漀 樀甀搀最攀 琀栀攀 琀攀洀瀀 椀猀ഊwith a Meat Thermometer, especialy with Pork & Fowl (most cook books have ਀琀攀洀瀀 最甀椀搀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 眀漀爀欀⤀⸀  ഊ ਀ऀ䤀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 琀愀氀欀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀 瀀漀琀猀 琀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 猀琀椀爀 ☀ 眀愀琀挀栀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀ഊmake sure they are cooking at a warm, simmer, or boil as required (you also ਀最攀琀 最漀漀搀 愀琀 樀甀搀最椀渀最 琀栀攀 琀攀洀瀀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 瀀漀琀猀 戀礀 昀攀攀氀⤀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 最漀漀搀ഊbooks on Cast Iron cookery that can be gotten from merchants like Smoke & ਀䘀椀爀攀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 琀栀愀琀 搀漀 琀栀攀 䈀甀挀欀猀欀椀渀攀爀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 ⠀愀琀 琀栀漀攀猀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀ഊallowed to use a colemanstove). ਀ഊ Campfire cooking can be alot of fun & you can get some great flavors. ਀䠀攀樀℀ഊOlaf ਀眀栀漀 漀渀攀 礀攀愀爀 栀愀搀 愀 爀攀猀琀愀攀爀愀甀渀琀 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 眀栀攀爀攀 䤀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 漀渀氀礀 眀椀琀栀ഊcharcoal. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㘀㨀㄀㔀㨀　㤀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: grizly at mindspring.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀椀爀攀 瀀椀琀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊ ਀䜀爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀 䄀攀渀最甀猀 䴀愀挀䈀愀椀渀℀ഊ ਀圀攀氀挀漀洀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀氀搀 漀昀 瀀椀琀⼀挀漀愀氀 挀漀漀欀攀爀礀℀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 洀漀爀攀 愀渀搀 洀漀爀攀 爀漀愀猀琀椀渀最 漀瘀攀爀 挀漀愀氀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 愀渀搀 漀昀昀攀爀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 洀漀爀攀 琀漀 眀栀愀琀 匀椀攀最最礀 栀愀猀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 最椀瘀攀渀⸀  吀栀攀 欀攀礀Ⰰ 䤀䴀䠀伀Ⰰ 琀漀 猀甀挀攀猀猀昀甀氀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 漀瘀攀爀 挀漀愀氀猀⼀昀椀爀攀 椀猀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀⸀  伀渀挀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 洀愀猀琀攀爀攀搀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 搀漀 洀漀猀琀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 搀漀⸀  夀漀甀 挀愀渀 瘀愀爀礀 琀栀攀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀琀 戀礀 戀愀渀欀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 挀漀愀氀猀 琀漀 漀渀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀 漀爀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀 琀漀 戀攀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 漀渀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 氀愀洀戀 挀愀爀挀愀猀猀攀 椀猀 洀漀猀琀氀礀 漀渀 琀栀攀 氀攀最猀⸀  匀漀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 瀀椀氀攀 礀漀甀爀 挀漀愀氀猀 猀漀 愀猀 琀漀 搀椀爀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 洀漀猀琀氀礀 琀漀 琀栀漀猀攀 愀爀攀愀猀 猀漀 琀栀攀礀 挀漀漀欀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 爀椀戀猀 戀攀挀漀洀攀 挀栀愀爀挀漀愀氀⸀  夀漀甀 挀愀渀 甀猀攀 愀 爀愀欀攀 漀爀 猀琀椀挀欀 琀漀 洀愀渀攀甀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 挀漀愀氀猀 ⠀椀渀 琀栀椀猀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 䤀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 愀 眀攀搀最攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 琀愀椀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀攀愀猀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 漀瀀攀渀 攀渀搀 琀漀眀愀爀搀 琀栀攀 挀攀渀琀攀爀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀椀猀 㰀ⴀ㸀 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 椀猀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀礀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀渀椀洀愀氀⤀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 搀攀挀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 椀猀 琀漀 栀椀最栀 漀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀漀漀 昀愀猀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 洀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀愀氀猀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 昀甀爀琀栀攀爀 愀眀愀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀氀漀猀攀爀 琀漀 椀渀琀攀渀猀椀昀礀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀⸀  䴀愀椀渀琀愀椀渀椀渀最 挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀 栀攀愀琀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 椀猀 愀猀氀漀 甀猀攀昀甀氀Ⰰ 猀漀 愀搀搀 昀爀攀猀栀 挀漀愀氀猀 漀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 戀攀最椀渀 琀漀 戀甀爀渀 漀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 瀀爀椀渀挀椀瀀愀氀猀 挀愀渀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 挀愀甀氀搀爀漀渀猀⼀瀀漀琀猀⸀  夀漀甀 挀愀渀 甀猀攀 愀搀樀甀猀琀愀戀氀攀 挀栀愀椀渀猀 琀漀 爀愀椀猀攀 愀渀搀 氀漀眀攀爀 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀愀渀欀 琀栀攀 挀漀愀氀猀 椀渀琀漀 愀 戀椀最 挀椀爀挀氀攀 琀漀 洀愀渀愀最攀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀㨀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 挀椀爀挀氀攀 昀漀爀 洀漀爀攀 椀渀琀攀渀猀攀 栀攀愀琀 愀渀搀 攀砀瀀愀渀搀 琀漀 搀爀愀眀 栀攀愀琀 氀漀眀攀爀⸀  䤀琀 琀愀欀攀猀 猀漀洀攀 昀椀渀攀猀猀攀 愀渀搀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀 琀漀 最攀琀 挀漀洀昀漀爀愀琀戀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 椀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 椀猀 椀渀挀爀攀搀椀戀氀礀 攀渀爀椀挀栀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀⸀  䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 眀愀礀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀猀 愀渀 椀渀琀椀洀愀挀礀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀爀 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀爀 昀漀漀搀 琀漀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 搀漀攀猀 愀渀搀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 搀漀 漀爀 氀椀欀攀⸀  ഊ ਀渀椀挀挀漀氀漀 搀椀昀爀愀渀挀攀猀挀漀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:07:26 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䨀漀栀渀渀愀 䠀漀氀氀漀眀愀礀 㰀樀漀栀渀渀愀 愀琀 猀椀琀欀愀⸀攀渀最椀渀⸀甀洀椀挀栀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] another one to bookmark ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀匀瀀攀愀欀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 漀琀栀攀爀 眀攀戀猀椀琀攀猀 琀漀 戀漀漀欀洀愀爀欀ⴀⴀഊWilliam Rubel who wrote The Magic of Fire book ਀栀愀猀 愀 氀椀猀琀 渀漀眀 漀昀 漀瀀攀渀 栀攀愀爀琀栀 搀攀洀漀✀猀 愀渀搀 琀攀愀挀栀攀爀猀ഊhttp://www.williamrubel.com/Links/Class.html ਀ഊJohnnae ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 一漀瘀 ㈀　　㐀 　㜀㨀㈀㘀㨀㐀㌀ ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: Stephen Bloch ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 匀琀礀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 嘀攀猀猀攀氀猀 倀爀漀樀攀挀琀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊChristianna wrote: ਀㸀 吀眀漀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀 洀愀渀礀 漀昀 礀漀甀 眀栀漀 愀琀琀攀渀搀攀搀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 䌀漀漀欀✀猀 倀漀琀氀甀挀欀 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 猀愀眀ഊ> the pottery cooking vessels I'd been playing with that day. Mistresses Cori ਀㸀 愀渀搀 䠀漀渀渀漀爀椀愀 昀爀漀洀 䄀攀琀栀攀氀洀攀愀爀挀 栀愀搀 琀栀爀漀眀渀 愀 瘀愀爀椀攀琀礀 漀昀 瀀漀琀猀Ⰰ 愀 猀欀椀氀氀攀琀Ⰰ 愀ഊ> pipkin, and a few bowls for cooking with, and asked me to bring some period ਀㸀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀漀 琀爀礀 琀栀攀洀 漀甀琀 椀渀⸀  吀栀攀 漀戀樀攀挀琀 眀愀猀 琀漀 琀攀猀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀眀愀爀攀 漀甀琀  琀漀 猀攀攀ഊ> how it worked, held up, where improvements needed to be made, etc. I had ਀㸀 最爀攀愀琀 昀甀渀 猀焀甀椀猀栀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀甀搀 甀瀀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 䴀琀⸀ 䄀椀猀氀椀渀渀 愀渀搀 栀愀搀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀ഊ> success and good opportunities for feedback. One thing we noticed for sure ਀㸀 眀愀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 洀攀琀栀漀搀 搀攀昀椀渀椀琀攀氀礀 愀昀昀攀挀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀⸀  䤀  搀椀搀 ∀䄀渀ഊ> Excellent Boylt Sallad" with spinach in the pipkin and it was fabulous. I ਀㸀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀琀 戀攀攀渀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 爀攀瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 椀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 眀愀礀 猀椀渀挀攀⸀  䤀✀瘀攀 挀漀洀攀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀ഊ> some tasty spinach glop, but nothing that approached the texture I got with ਀㸀 愀 猀氀漀眀 挀漀搀搀氀攀 椀渀 栀漀琀 愀猀栀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䰀愀猀琀 猀瀀爀椀渀最 䰀愀搀礀 䄀渀搀爀攀愀 䴀愀挀䤀渀琀礀爀攀 搀攀挀椀搀攀搀 琀漀 搀漀 愀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀Ⰰഊscientifically controlled experiment on cooking vessels: she mixed up ਀愀 氀愀爀最攀 戀愀琀挀栀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀ⴀ猀琀攀眀 猀漀爀琀愀 琀栀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 䴀攀渀愀最椀攀爀 ⠀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊremember exactly what recipe), divided it in thirds, and cooked one ਀琀栀椀爀搀 攀愀挀栀 椀渀 愀 猀琀愀椀渀氀攀猀猀ⴀ猀琀攀攀氀 瀀漀琀Ⰰ 愀 挀愀猀琀ⴀ椀爀漀渀 瀀漀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 琀椀渀渀攀搀ഊbrass pot, all over the fireplace in her home. She brought all three ਀琀漀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀 琀栀攀 渀攀砀琀 搀愀礀 愀渀搀 椀渀瘀椀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀挀攀 琀漀 搀漀 戀氀椀渀搀ഊtaste-tests. To my palate, one tasted "thin", "metallic" (turned out ਀琀漀 戀攀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀椀渀氀攀猀猀 猀琀攀攀氀⤀㬀 琀栀攀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 琀愀猀琀攀搀 洀漀爀攀 爀漀戀甀猀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀ഊlittle harsh (cast-iron), and the tinned-brass was clearly the ਀爀椀挀栀攀猀琀 愀渀搀 洀漀猀琀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀昀甀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀栀爀攀攀⸀  䤀 最愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀攀渀琀ഊwith what other taste-testers said. ਀ⴀⴀ ഊ John Elys ਀     ⠀琀栀攀 愀爀琀椀猀琀 昀漀爀洀攀爀氀礀 欀渀漀眀渀 愀猀 洀愀爀ⴀ䨀漀猀栀甀愀 椀戀渀ⴀ䔀氀攀愀稀愀爀 栀愀ⴀ匀栀愀氀椀戀⤀ഊ mka Stephen Bloch ਀                                  猀戀氀漀挀栀 愀琀 愀搀攀氀瀀栀椀⸀攀搀甀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:36 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀栀氀椀瀀∀ 㰀瀀栀氀椀瀀 愀琀 㤀㤀洀愀椀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: RE: [Sca-cooks] trivets and dutch ovens ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀 匀漀 䤀 栀攀愀爀 洀愀渀礀 昀漀氀欀猀 爀攀昀攀爀爀椀渀最 琀漀 ✀琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀✀ 椀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀 愀渀ഊ> oven, and why using actual flame is bad.. And so, I ask. ਀㸀ഊ> How do you determine the temperature inside an 'oven' without a gauge ਀㸀 漀爀 漀瀀攀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀 瀀愀渀㼀ഊ ਀䔀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 洀漀猀琀氀礀⸀ 䌀漀愀氀猀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 戀攀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 洀甀挀栀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀攀洀瀀 甀渀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀ഊblow air on them. Blowing air is why I can get my forge fire up to temps to ਀昀漀爀最攀 眀攀氀搀 猀琀攀攀氀Ⰰ 漀爀 戀甀爀渀 椀琀 甀瀀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀渀✀琀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀⸀ 䘀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀椀挀 挀漀愀氀ഊtemperature, experience tells you how close or how far from the fire to have ਀琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 猀攀攀 戀氀愀挀欀 猀洀漀欀攀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 琀漀漀 栀漀琀 㬀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀㸀 䠀漀眀 搀漀 礀漀甀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 挀漀愀氀猀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最 栀漀琀 氀漀渀最 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 戀愀欀攀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最㼀ഊ ਀䈀礀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䤀昀 䤀✀洀 甀猀椀渀最 眀漀漀搀 琀漀 搀攀瘀攀氀漀瀀 挀漀愀氀猀 椀渀 愀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 昀椀爀攀ഊburning fairly close to the cooking area- 1-2 ft- and rake coals from the ਀昀椀爀攀 漀瘀攀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀爀攀愀 愀猀 䤀 渀攀攀搀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 唀猀椀渀最 挀栀愀爀挀漀愀氀Ⰰ 䤀 愀搀搀 昀爀攀猀栀ഊcharcoal on top of the burning coals about every half hour. It's something ਀琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 眀愀琀挀栀 愀猀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 搀漀椀渀最 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 礀漀甀ഊhave to stare at. ਀ഊAny fire requires more management than, say, a gas or electric stove, and ਀樀甀猀琀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀漀猀攀 猀琀漀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 琀攀氀氀猀 礀漀甀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀爀攀 琀漀漀 栀漀琀Ⰰ 瀀爀攀琀琀礀ഊclose to right, or too cool, as well as when the food is cooked. In ਀焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀愀戀氀攀 挀愀猀攀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 甀猀攀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 椀渀猀琀愀渀琀 爀攀愀搀ഊthermometers, until you get the knack. ਀ഊ> what indications are there to show the existing temperature of a ਀㸀 昀椀爀攀⼀挀漀愀氀 瀀椀琀㼀ഊ ਀䈀氀愀挀欀 猀洀漀欀攀Ⰰ 琀漀漀 栀漀琀⸀ 䈀氀愀挀欀 昀甀攀氀Ⰰ 琀漀漀 挀漀漀氀 㬀ⴀ⤀ 䜀攀渀攀爀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 愀猀 䤀 猀愀椀搀Ⰰ 愀 瀀椀琀ഊof coals will be pretty much the same temp, particularly if you're using ਀戀爀椀焀甀攀琀猀⸀ 䐀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 眀漀漀搀猀 戀甀爀渀 愀琀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 琀攀洀瀀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀ഊcoals, actually all you're burning is the charcoal you made yourself in the ਀昀椀爀攀ⴀ 戀愀猀椀挀氀礀Ⰰ 瀀甀爀攀 挀愀爀戀漀渀⸀ 吀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 昀氀愀洀攀猀 愀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀椀渀最 愀氀氀 琀栀攀ഊimpurities. It's a bit more complicated than that, but for a rule of thumb, ਀愀氀氀 挀漀愀氀猀 愀爀攀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最 愀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀攀洀瀀⸀ 吀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀愀琀椀漀渀猀 挀漀洀攀 眀椀琀栀 栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀ഊair the fire is receiving, and how many coals you have in a heap. Usually ਀洀漀猀琀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 挀漀漀欀 眀椀琀栀 愀 挀漀愀氀 戀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 爀漀甀最栀氀礀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀 昀漀漀琀 愀渀搀 愀  栀愀氀昀 椀渀ഊdiameter, and don't force oxygen in with a blower, so you're getting pretty ਀挀氀漀猀攀 琀漀 愀渀 愀瘀攀爀愀最攀 挀漀渀搀椀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀✀猀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀⸀ഊ ਀匀愀椀渀琀 倀栀氀椀瀀ⰀഊCoD ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 㜀 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㔀 ㈀㄀㨀㈀㤀㨀　㄀ ⴀ　㘀　　ഊFrom: "TheBard3" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 伀伀倀ⴀ 䄀 䈀漀漀欀 䤀 䘀漀甀渀搀ഊTo: "Cooks within the SCA" ਀ഊFound a fairly good read a while back, The Magic of Fire by Wiliam ਀刀甀戀攀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀愀猀 眀漀渀搀攀爀椀渀最 椀昀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 栀愀猀 爀攀愀搀 椀琀㼀ഊ ਀䤀琀✀猀 戀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀愀礀猀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 漀瘀攀爀 氀椀瘀攀 挀漀愀氀猀⼀昀椀爀攀⸀   ഊWhile there aren't many recipes in it I found that the way he ਀搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀猀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 漀昀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 最椀瘀攀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 愀 戀椀琀 漀渀 椀渀猀椀最栀琀 琀栀愀琀  ഊmight help out when you're cooking on something besides a stove. And ਀琀栀愀渀欀猀 琀漀 琀栀椀猀 戀漀漀欀 䤀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 洀愀搀攀 愀渀 攀搀椀戀氀攀 愀猀栀挀愀欀攀 ⠀氀漀渀最 猀琀漀爀礀Ⰰ  ഊdeals with camping trip and forgotten fuel bottle). ਀ഊJames P. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 　㜀 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㔀 ㈀㌀㨀㈀㘀㨀　㐀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 伀伀倀ⴀ 䄀 䈀漀漀欀 䤀 䘀漀甀渀搀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊHe's a good guy and it's a good book. He's also SCA friendly. ਀䠀漀洀攀 瀀愀最攀 椀猀 栀攀爀攀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀眀椀氀氀椀愀洀爀甀戀攀氀⸀挀漀洀⼀ഊI had the pleasure of meeting him in person at Leeds Symposium ਀椀渀 ㈀　　㐀⸀ 䠀攀✀猀 愀渀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 最甀礀⸀ 䠀椀猀 渀攀砀琀 戀漀漀欀 椀猀 漀渀 戀愀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀⸀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀渀愀攀ഊ ਀吀栀攀䈀愀爀搀㌀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> Found a fairly good read a while back, The Magic of Fire by Wiliam ਀㸀 刀甀戀攀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀愀猀 眀漀渀搀攀爀椀渀最 椀昀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 栀愀猀 爀攀愀搀 椀琀㼀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 07:46:22 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䔀氀椀猀攀 䘀氀攀洀椀渀最∀ 㰀愀氀礀猀欀 愀琀 椀砀⸀渀攀琀挀漀洀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] OOP- A Book I Found ਀吀漀㨀 ∀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀渀愀攀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> He's a good guy and it's a good book. He's also SCA friendly. ਀㸀 䠀漀洀攀 瀀愀最攀 椀猀 栀攀爀攀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀眀椀氀氀椀愀洀爀甀戀攀氀⸀挀漀洀⼀ഊ> I had the pleasure of meeting him in person at Leeds Symposium ਀㸀 椀渀 ㈀　　㐀⸀ 䠀攀✀猀 愀渀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 最甀礀⸀ 䠀椀猀 渀攀砀琀 戀漀漀欀 椀猀 漀渀 戀愀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀⸀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀 琀栀椀渀最猀 䤀 漀戀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 愀渀搀 栀攀愀爀搀 氀愀猀琀 礀攀愀爀 栀攀✀猀 愀氀猀漀 愀 戀椀琀 挀漀渀琀爀漀瘀攀爀猀椀愀氀⸀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 愀 渀漀戀漀搀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀甀氀椀渀愀爀礀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 眀漀爀氀搀 戀甀琀 栀攀 最爀攀攀琀攀搀 洀攀 攀昀昀甀猀椀瘀攀氀礀 愀琀ഊlast year's Leeds Symposium and started to talk about his book. It was a ਀戀椀琀 猀攀氀昀ⴀ瀀爀漀洀漀琀椀渀最 ⠀愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 䤀✀洀 最甀椀氀琀礀 漀昀 琀栀愀琀 洀礀猀攀氀昀℀⤀ 愀渀搀 漀昀昀ⴀ瀀甀琀琀椀渀最⸀ഊFrom what I heard at least one noted culinary historian say, he pumps ਀漀琀栀攀爀猀 昀漀爀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 甀猀攀猀 琀栀攀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀 愀猀 椀昀 栀攀 搀椀猀挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 椀琀⸀ഊThis has led that culinary historian to refuse to answer in detail any more ਀焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 昀爀漀洀 刀甀戀攀氀⸀  䐀漀攀猀渀✀琀 搀椀洀椀渀椀猀栀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀昀甀氀渀攀猀猀 漀昀 栀椀猀 戀漀漀欀 ⴀ  樀甀猀琀ഊgives a spin on what goes on behind the scenes. ਀ഊAlys Katharine ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 伀挀琀 ㈀　　㔀 ㈀㄀㨀㄀㈀㨀㐀㠀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: ranvaig at columbus.rr.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 伀甀琀搀漀漀爀猀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊI cook a 9th c Hiberno-Viking feast for 30+ people with no modern ਀昀愀挀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀⸀  圀攀 栀愀瘀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀琀 愀 琀愀瀀 愀 戀氀漀挀欀 愀眀愀礀Ⰰ 琀眀漀 戀爀愀稀椀攀爀猀⼀愀戀漀瘀攀ഊground firepits (no fire on the grass), two tables, a small clay ਀漀瘀攀渀Ⰰ   椀挀攀 挀栀攀猀琀猀Ⰰ 愀渀 愀猀猀漀爀琀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 栀愀渀搀 昀漀爀最攀搀 猀琀攀攀氀 愀渀搀 挀愀猀琀 椀爀漀渀ഊpots, wooden and metal bowls, and other kitchen stuff. Ice and ਀戀漀琀琀氀攀搀 眀愀琀攀爀 椀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 猀椀琀攀 琀漀漀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 氀椀瘀椀渀最 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 漀昀 愀渀 䤀爀椀猀栀 昀攀猀琀椀瘀愀氀Ⰰ 猀甀爀爀漀甀渀搀攀搀ഊby people, and the real point is demonstrating period cooking. I try ਀栀愀爀搀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 琀栀椀渀最猀 漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀ഊbudget to have everything perfect, so we use some modern but not too ਀漀戀琀爀甀猀椀瘀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 渀漀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 愀氀氀 愀爀攀 洀礀ഊbest guess, based on foods known to be used here/now. and later ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀ഊ ਀䤀✀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀洀愀氀氀 戀爀愀稀椀攀爀猀 琀漀 戀攀 椀渀愀搀攀焀甀愀琀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 樀甀猀琀 搀漀渀✀琀 戀甀椀氀搀ഊup coals you can cook with. So we are hoping to upgrade the ਀昀愀挀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀 渀攀砀琀 礀攀愀爀⸀  䤀✀洀 栀漀瀀椀渀最 琀漀 最攀琀 洀愀欀攀 猀漀洀攀 瀀漀琀琀攀爀礀 琀漀漀⸀⸀⸀ 漀甀爀ഊsetup is just too metal heavy, but I haven't found much on cooking ਀瀀漀琀猀 昀漀爀 漀甀爀 琀椀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 挀漀漀欀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 漀渀 猀椀琀攀⸀  吀栀攀 瀀漀爀欀 眀愀猀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 愀渀搀ഊkept in the cooler. The butter and cheese were demos the day before. ਀匀漀洀攀漀渀攀 戀爀漀甀最栀琀 洀攀 昀爀攀猀栀 渀攀琀琀氀攀猀Ⰰ 猀漀 眀攀 洀愀搀攀 渀攀琀琀氀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀愀猀ഊfinished after dark, and got a bit carmelized and was lovely. The ਀搀甀挀欀Ⰰ 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 愀渀搀 戀愀爀氀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 昀椀渀椀猀栀攀搀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊleft covered in the pot. Just before serving we cooked the oatcakes ਀愀渀搀 瘀攀最最椀攀猀Ⰰ 猀氀椀挀攀搀 愀渀搀 爀攀栀攀愀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 瀀漀爀欀⸀  吀栀椀渀最猀 眀攀渀琀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 眀攀氀氀ഊthis year, but I had a few planned dishes that didn't happen. ਀ഊRanvaig ਀ഊLast years menu was: ਀䈀爀愀椀猀攀搀 倀漀爀欀 眀椀琀栀 䌀漀爀洀愀礀攀 匀愀甀挀攀 ⴀ 瀀漀爀欀Ⰰ 洀攀愀搀Ⰰ 最愀爀氀椀挀Ⰰ 挀甀洀椀渀Ⰰ  ഊcoriander, pepper ਀䈀爀愀椀猀攀搀 䌀栀椀挀欀攀渀 眀椀琀栀 氀攀攀欀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀爀猀氀攀礀 ⴀ 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀Ⰰ 氀攀攀欀猀Ⰰ 瀀愀爀猀氀攀礀ഊBraised Duck with onions, thyme, and honey ਀䈀爀愀椀猀攀搀 爀漀漀琀猀 ⴀ 挀愀爀爀漀琀猀Ⰰ 瀀愀爀猀渀椀瀀猀Ⰰ 琀甀爀渀椀瀀猀Ⰰ 瀀愀爀猀氀攀礀 爀漀漀琀ഊBarley with hazelnuts ਀伀愀琀洀攀愀氀 䰀椀琀琀椀甀 ⴀ 漀愀琀洀攀愀氀Ⰰ 洀椀氀欀ഊCured salmon - salmon, sugar, salt, mead, dill - this was made ahead ਀䴀甀猀琀愀爀搀 猀愀甀挀攀Ⰰ  ⴀ 洀甀猀琀愀爀搀Ⰰ 洀攀愀搀Ⰰ 栀漀渀攀礀ഊGarlic herb sauce - garlic, sage, parsley, bread ਀栀漀爀猀攀爀愀搀椀猀栀 猀愀甀挀攀 ⴀ 栀漀爀猀攀爀愀搀椀猀栀Ⰰ 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀ഊPlum sauce - plums, celery leaves, cumin, honey, wine, vinegar ਀䈀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 伀愀琀挀愀欀攀猀 ⴀ 洀愀搀攀 漀渀 猀椀琀攀ഊNettle Cheese, Dill Cheese, and butter, made on site ਀倀攀愀爀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀甀洀猀Ⰰ 瀀攀愀挀栀攀猀Ⰰ 戀攀爀爀椀攀猀ഊradishes, celtic salt, ਀栀漀渀攀礀 ⴀ 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 栀椀瘀攀 漀昀 漀渀攀 漀昀 漀甀爀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀ഊMead - made on site the year before ਀ഊ> I would ask the aid of the assembled for resources on cooking in a ਀㸀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 洀愀渀渀攀爀 昀漀爀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最⸀  䤀✀洀 挀漀渀琀攀洀瀀氀愀琀椀渀最 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 㔀　ⴀ㜀㔀ഊ> people at a site that lacks modern facilities, so the idea of doing ਀㸀 琀栀椀猀 椀渀 愀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀 猀琀礀氀攀 愀猀 䤀 挀愀渀 洀愀渀愀最攀 椀渀琀爀椀最甀攀猀 洀攀⸀ഊ> My focus would be "Middle Eastern" period foods, and mostly snack-type ਀㸀 猀琀甀昀昀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 ⠀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 䴀椀猀挀攀氀氀愀渀礀Ⰰ 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 猀漀洀攀 伀琀琀漀洀愀渀ഊ> cooking resources) but I'm not tied solely to that theme. Any ਀㸀 爀攀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 ⠀戀漀漀欀猀℀ 戀漀漀欀猀℀ 戀漀漀欀猀℀⤀Ⰰ 漀爀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 愀猀猀攀洀戀氀攀搀 挀愀渀 最椀瘀攀ഊ> would be of help, and greatly appreciated. ਀㸀ഊ> ----asim ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀ 䨀愀渀 ㈀　　㠀 ㄀㠀㨀㔀㤀㨀㌀㈀ ⴀ　㠀　　 ⠀倀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: Helen Schultz ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀瀀椀琀ⴀ倀爀漀樀攀挀琀崀 䈀漀漀欀 刀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀愀琀椀漀渀ഊTo: Creating period spits ਀ഊThis list has been rather quiet of late, so here is something to think about . ਀ഊI had recommended the following book earlier last year, but hadn't really read much of it then. Well, I've been looking at it all day today (in front of a toasty fire in the fireplace on a snowy New Year's Day in Indiana), and I find it is full of great instruction for cooking over a firepit... although his recipes are for cooking inside with a fireplace, most of them can be very easily adapted for firepit cooking. He has several really good chicken recipes (including spinning ones), and even tells you just how long to cook them... as well as some good lamb, fish, and other meats. He explains how to measure the heat of your fire with and without modern appliances, and all sorts of different mostly period tools and equipment to use. ਀ഊHe also has used a couple Medieval recipes as a basis for his own renditions... and has a decent bibleography attached. I highly recommend this book to everyone on this list!! ਀ഊ?The Magic of Fire, Hearth Cooking,? by William Rubel. ISBN: 1-58008-453-2 Published by Ten Speed Press, 2002. This is an excellent book on how to cook over an indoor hearth. Although meant for the modern person, most of the techniques are very close to Medieval. Contains at least 100 recipes and lots of great photos of hearth cooking. ਀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀縀 ഊMeisterin Katarina Helene von Sch?nborn, OL ਀匀栀椀爀攀 漀昀 一愀爀爀攀渀琀愀氀 ⠀倀攀爀甀Ⰰ 䤀渀搀椀愀渀愀⤀ 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀渀愀爀爀攀渀琀愀氀⸀栀漀洀攀⸀挀漀洀挀愀猀琀⸀渀攀琀 ഊMiddle Kingdom ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㈀ 䄀甀最 ㈀　　㠀 ㄀㔀㨀㄀㈀㨀㈀㤀 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: Bronwynmgn@aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 䌀愀洀瀀 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊTo: sca-cooks@lists.ansteorra.org ਀ഊ<> ਀ഊTwo, in fact. ਀ഊI did indeed use the (VERY) sour cherries from my friend's medieval species ਀漀昀 挀栀攀爀爀礀 琀爀攀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 䌀爀甀猀琀 漀昀 吀愀洀攀 䌀爀攀愀琀甀爀攀猀 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀⸀  吀栀椀猀  眀愀猀 ഊmy first time baking in my Dutch oven, and due to a combination of ਀挀椀爀挀甀洀猀琀愀渀挀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 洀礀猀攀氀昀 渀漀琀 漀渀氀礀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 最漀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 洀礀爀椀愀搀 猀琀攀瀀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 洀愀欀椀渀最 瀀椀攀 搀漀甀最栀 昀爀漀洀 猀挀爀愀琀挀栀 漀渀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 栀漀琀 搀愀礀Ⰰ 䤀 愀氀猀漀 栀愀搀  琀漀 琀攀渀搀 洀礀 琀栀爀攀攀 礀攀愀爀 漀氀搀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 眀栀椀氀攀 搀漀椀渀最 猀漀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 琀栀爀攀攀 礀攀愀爀 漀氀搀 眀愀猀 攀愀猀椀氀礀 漀挀挀甀瀀椀攀搀 昀漀爀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀攀瀀 愀渀搀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最  琀椀洀攀 ഊby filling a big bowl with water and letting him lounge/play in it where I ਀挀漀甀氀搀 猀攀攀 栀椀洀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀⸀  䠀椀猀 眀栀椀琀攀 戀爀愀椀攀猀 眀椀氀氀 渀攀瘀攀爀 戀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀Ⰰ  愀氀愀猀 ഊ:-) If I remember how I did it correctly, I started the fire so I could start ਀最攀琀琀椀渀最 挀漀愀氀猀⸀  吀栀攀渀 瀀愀爀戀漀椀氀攀搀 琀栀攀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 椀琀 椀渀 愀 挀漀氀愀渀搀攀爀 琀漀  挀漀漀氀Ⰰ ഊreserved the necessary broth and got rid of the rest. Got a bright idea and ਀瀀甀琀 洀礀 挀攀爀愀洀椀挀 瀀椀攀 搀椀猀栀 椀渀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀挀攀 挀栀攀猀琀 琀漀 挀漀漀氀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀攀  搀漀甀最栀 ഊwouldn't immediately melt to mush in it. Made the pie dough, resisting the urge to use my hands to get the butter in and sticking with the pastry cutter, ਀眀栀椀挀栀 愀渀渀漀礀猀 洀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 甀猀椀渀最 椀挀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 挀漀氀搀 戀甀琀琀攀爀⸀  匀琀椀氀氀  挀漀甀氀搀 戀愀爀攀氀礀 爀漀氀氀 椀琀 愀渀搀 最攀琀 椀琀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀愀爀搀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 椀琀 眀愀猀 猀漀 猀漀昀琀⸀   倀漀瀀瀀攀搀 琀栀攀 瀀椀攀 搀椀猀栀 眀椀琀栀 ഊthe dough back into the cooler. All the while adding wood to the fire and ਀眀愀琀挀栀椀渀最 琀栀攀 琀栀爀攀攀 礀攀愀爀 漀氀搀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 愀 眀愀礀 琀漀  昀椀琀 栀椀猀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 戀漀搀礀 椀渀琀漀 愀 ഊbowl smaller than he was. Boned and cut up the chicken and fried it in butter ਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀 氀愀爀搀⸀  倀甀琀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀  愀渀搀 挀栀攀爀爀椀攀猀 椀渀琀漀 瀀椀攀 搀漀甀最栀 愀渀搀 ഊpopped it back into the cooler. Made the egg portion of the dish, and had a ਀戀椀琀 漀昀 琀爀漀甀戀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀椀猀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀✀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀  琀栀椀挀欀攀渀攀搀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 氀椀欀攀 琀栀椀猀 ഊover the heat before and got it too thick, so it sort of sat on top of the ਀挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 猀攀攀瀀椀渀最 搀漀眀渀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀 愀渀搀  挀栀攀爀爀椀攀猀⸀  倀甀琀 愀 爀愀挀欀 椀渀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䐀甀琀挀栀 漀瘀攀渀Ⰰ 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀搀  瀀椀攀 椀渀Ⰰ 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 椀琀Ⰰ 最漀琀 琀栀攀 ഊcoals into the Dutch oven hole in the fire pit, put the oven in, and put coals ਀愀爀漀甀渀搀 猀椀搀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀漀瀀Ⰰ 愀琀 眀栀椀挀栀 瀀漀椀渀琀 挀愀洀瀀 洀愀琀攀猀 挀愀洀攀  栀漀洀攀 愀渀搀 琀漀漀欀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 ഊthree year old. About half an hour later we had a lovely pie, with only the top edges of the crust burnt and the custard nicely browned. Very tasty. ਀ഊThe second campfire cooking event was the Drye Stewe for Beef, which was ਀瀀爀攀琀琀礀 搀愀爀渀攀搀 攀愀猀礀⸀  吀眀漀 挀栀甀渀欀猀 漀昀 瀀漀琀 爀漀愀猀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 䐀甀琀挀栀 漀瘀攀渀 漀渀 愀  爀愀挀欀Ⰰ ഊpour red wine over it, cover with chopped onions and sprinkle with blade mace, ਀眀栀漀氀攀 瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀挀漀爀渀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀漀氀攀 挀氀漀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀漀瘀攀爀 椀琀 愀渀 戀愀欀攀 椀琀⸀  䤀 栀愀搀  栀攀氀瀀 昀漀爀 ഊthe fire, the child , and the onion chopping (and getting me blade mace from ਀䄀甀渀琀椀攀 䄀爀眀攀渀✀猀⤀ 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 漀渀攀⸀  䤀琀 挀愀洀攀 漀甀琀 焀甀椀琀攀 礀甀洀洀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀  攀瘀攀渀 漀甀爀 挀愀洀瀀 ഊ"confirmed sceptic about medieval meat dishes" (pronounced dislike of ਀洀攀愀琀⼀昀爀甀椀琀⼀搀攀猀猀攀爀琀 猀瀀椀挀攀 挀漀洀戀漀猀⤀ 爀愀瘀攀搀 愀戀甀琀 椀琀 愀渀搀 眀愀渀琀猀 洀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀  愀最愀椀渀 渀攀砀琀 礀攀愀爀⸀ഊ ਀䈀爀愀渀最眀愀礀渀愀 䴀漀爀最愀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:03:32 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䨀漀栀渀渀愀 䠀漀氀氀漀眀愀礀 㰀樀漀栀渀渀愀攀䀀洀愀挀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] Wood-Fired Cooking ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀䀀氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀Ⰰऀ䌀爀攀愀琀椀渀最ഊ period spits ਀ഊNew book of possible interest for the summer season. ਀ഊWood-Fired Cooking: Techniques and Recipes for the Grill, Backyard ਀伀瘀攀渀Ⰰ 䘀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䌀愀洀瀀昀椀爀攀⼀ 戀礀 䴀愀爀礀 䬀愀爀氀椀渀⸀ 吀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀猀 ∀䄀ഊcollection of 100 /contemporary/ recipes for the range of wood-fired ਀挀漀漀欀椀渀最 漀瀀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ഊ200 p. ਀䌀漀渀琀攀渀琀猀㨀 ऀ䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 昀椀爀攀 ⴀⴀ 圀漀漀搀ⴀ昀椀爀攀搀 戀愀猀椀挀猀 ⴀⴀ 䈀攀挀漀洀椀渀最 愀渀ഊefficient wood-fire cook -- Baking flatbreads and rustic artisan breads ਀ⴀⴀ 圀漀漀搀ⴀ昀椀爀攀搀 最爀椀氀氀椀渀最 ⴀⴀ 䌀愀洀瀀昀椀爀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 ⴀⴀ 圀漀漀搀ⴀ昀椀爀攀搀 爀漀愀猀琀椀渀最 ⴀⴀഊClay-pot and cast-iron oven cooking -- Baked on the hearth : savory ਀琀愀爀琀猀 愀渀搀 最愀氀攀琀琀攀猀 ⴀⴀ 䰀漀眀 ☀ 猀氀漀眀 㨀 戀爀愀椀猀椀渀最 琀漀 戀愀爀戀攀挀甀攀 ⴀⴀ 圀漀漀搀ⴀ昀椀爀攀搀ഊsweets and desserts -- Wood-fired pantry basics. ਀ഊLearn more about the author and the book at her ਀眀攀戀猀椀琀攀㨀 眀眀眀⸀攀氀攀洀攀渀琀猀漀昀琀愀猀琀攀⸀挀漀洀 ⸀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀渀愀攀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. 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