cheese-soups-msg - 9/26/09 ਀ഊPeriod cheese soups. Recipes. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: soup-msg, sops-msg, cheese-msg, cheesemaking-msg, broths-msg, thickening-msg, porridges-msg, mustard-soup-msg, onion-soups-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:21:36 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀瘀椀搀 昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀 㰀搀搀昀爀 愀琀 戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - cheese soup ਀ഊStefan asks: ਀㸀䤀 椀洀愀最椀渀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 猀漀甀瀀猀 愀爀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䄀渀礀 搀椀爀攀挀琀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 ∀䜀爀攀攀渀 䈀爀漀琀栀 漀昀 䔀最最猀 愀渀搀 䌀栀攀攀猀攀∀ 椀渀 䴀攀渀愀最椀攀爀 搀攀 倀愀爀椀猀 ⠀氀愀琀攀 ㄀㐀琀栀ഊc.) Quite good, although some people give poached eggs floating in soup a ਀昀甀渀渀礀 氀漀漀欀⸀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 瀀愀爀猀氀攀礀 愀渀搀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 猀愀最攀 愀渀搀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 猀洀愀氀氀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀ഊsaffron, moistened bread, and mix with water left from cooking peas, or ਀猀琀漀挀欀Ⰰ 最爀椀渀搀 愀渀搀 猀琀爀愀椀渀㨀 䄀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 最椀渀最攀爀 洀椀砀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 眀椀渀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 漀渀ഊto boil; then add cheese and eggs poached in water, and let it be a bright ਀最爀攀攀渀⸀ 䤀琀攀洀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 搀漀 渀漀琀 愀搀搀 戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 戀爀攀愀搀 甀猀攀 戀愀挀漀渀⸀ 嬀攀渀搀 漀昀ഊoriginal] ਀ഊ3 T parsley ਀㄀⼀㈀ 漀稀 挀栀攀攀猀攀Ⰰ 最爀愀琀攀搀ഊ3 small leaves fresh sage ਀㔀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 猀愀昀昀爀漀渀ഊ2 thin slices = 1.5 oz white bread ਀㈀ 挀 瀀攀愀 猀琀漀挀欀 漀爀 搀椀氀甀琀攀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 猀琀漀挀欀ഊ1/8 t ginger ਀㄀ 吀 眀栀椀琀攀 眀椀渀攀ഊ1 3/4 oz cheese, grated ਀㌀ 攀最最猀ഊ ਀匀漀愀欀 戀爀攀愀搀 椀渀 猀琀漀挀欀 ⠀攀椀琀栀攀爀 眀愀琀攀爀 氀攀昀琀 昀爀漀洀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 瀀攀愀猀 漀爀 ㄀⼀㈀ 挀 挀愀渀渀攀搀ഊchicken broth + 1 1/2 c water). Grind parsley, sage, and saffron in a ਀洀漀爀琀愀爀 琀栀漀爀漀甀最栀氀礀㬀 愀搀搀 ㄀⼀㈀ 漀稀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 猀漀愀欀攀搀 戀爀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 最爀椀渀搀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀⸀ഊStrain through a strainer; if necessary, put back in mortar what didn't go ਀琀栀爀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 最爀椀渀搀 愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀琀爀愀椀渀 愀最愀椀渀⸀ 䴀椀砀 眀椀渀攀 愀渀搀 最椀渀最攀爀Ⰰ 愀搀搀 琀漀ഊmixture, and bring to a boil over moderate heat; be careful that it does ਀渀漀琀 猀琀椀挀欀 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀⸀ 匀琀椀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀㬀 戀爀攀愀欀 攀最最猀 椀渀琀漀ഊsoup, and continue to simmer until eggs are poached. ਀ഊThe above is in our Miscellany 6th edition, which is on the Web. For ਀昀甀琀甀爀攀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 猀栀漀甀氀搀 䤀 瀀漀猀琀 猀甀挀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 漀爀 樀甀猀琀 猀愀礀 ∀昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀ഊMiscellany" and let those interested look it up? ਀ഊElizabeth of Dendermonde/Betty Cook ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀　 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㄀㨀㄀㈀㨀㔀㄀ ⬀　　　　ഊFrom: Karen at agent.infodata.com (Harris, Karen) ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: OOP Cheese soup recipe ਀ഊCariadoc's Miscellany includes not one, but TWO period cheese soup ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀㨀  ∀䜀爀攀攀渀 䈀爀漀琀栀 漀昀 䔀最最猀 愀渀搀 䌀栀攀攀猀攀∀ 昀爀漀洀 䰀攀 䴀攀渀愀最椀攀爀 搀攀 倀愀爀椀猀 ഊ(France ca. 1395), and "Zanzarella" from De Honesta Voluptate (Venice ਀挀愀⸀ ㄀㐀㜀㔀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀礀 挀愀渀 戀漀琀栀 戀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀琀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀瀀戀洀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀氀椀渀搀愀栀氀⼀挀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀⼀猀漀甀瀀猀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀䬀愀爀攀渀 䰀愀爀猀搀愀琀琀攀爀ഊ Barony of Ponte Alto, Atlantia ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀　 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㄀㨀㈀㌀㨀㐀㤀 ⴀ　㘀　　ഊFrom: Sinclair ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Cheese Soup...Help!! ਀ഊThere is a recipe for cheese soup in Pleyn Dilit: Medieval Cookery for ਀䴀漀搀攀爀渀 䌀漀漀欀猀 戀礀 䌀漀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀 䠀椀攀愀琀琀 ☀ 匀栀愀爀漀渀 䈀甀琀氀攀爀⸀ഊIn my copy it's on page 5. ਀ഊSoup of Milk, eggs, cheese ਀ഊ6 hard boiled eggs ਀㌀ 挀甀瀀猀 洀椀氀欀ഊ1/2-1 cup breadcrumbs(depending on how finely ground, ਀ऀ漀爀 ㌀ 吀䈀匀倀 爀椀挀攀 昀氀漀甀爀 漀爀 挀漀爀渀猀琀愀爀挀栀ഊ1/4 tsp ground cumin ਀㄀⼀㐀 琀猀瀀 最爀漀甀渀搀 猀愀昀昀爀漀渀ഊ1/2 tsp salt ਀愀戀漀甀琀 ㌀⼀㐀 挀甀瀀 猀漀昀琀 漀爀 猀攀洀椀ⴀ猀漀昀琀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 挀甀琀 椀渀琀漀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀ഊ ਀䈀攀愀琀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 攀最最 礀漀氀欀猀Ⰰ 洀椀氀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀氀氀 漀琀栀攀爀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 攀砀挀攀瀀琀 琀栀攀 攀最最ഊwites and the cheese (use a blender). Cook, stirring constantly, in a pan ਀漀瘀攀爀 洀攀搀椀甀洀 栀攀愀琀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀椀挀欀⸀  䴀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 攀最最 眀栀椀琀攀猀 愀渀搀 愀搀搀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 琀栀攀 栀漀琀ഊliquid along with the cheese. Stir for a few minutes more before serving. ਀ഊThe author atttributes the recipe to Ancient Cookery, a appendage to the ਀㄀㐀琀栀 䌀 䘀漀爀洀攀 漀昀 䌀甀爀礀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 椀渀 䰀漀渀搀漀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ㄀㠀琀栀 䌀⸀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀栀攀攀猀攀 猀漀甀瀀ഊ ਀䄀琀 ㄀　㨀㄀㜀 䄀䴀 ⴀ　㔀　　 ㌀⼀㄀㈀⼀㤀㤀Ⰰ 䨀攀昀昀 䜀攀搀渀攀礀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>Does anyone have nay references to a dish that would now be called ਀㸀∀挀栀攀攀猀攀 猀漀甀瀀∀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 爀攀焀甀攀猀琀攀搀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 漀渀攀 昀漀爀 攀愀猀琀攀爀 搀椀渀渀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀 氀攀 䴀攀渀愀最椀攀爀 搀攀 倀愀爀椀猀 戀礀 眀愀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䴀椀猀挀攀氀氀愀渀礀㨀ഊ ਀䜀爀攀攀渀 䈀爀漀琀栀 漀昀 䔀最最猀 愀渀搀 䌀栀攀攀猀攀ഊMenagier p. M-22 ਀ഊTake parsley and a little cheese and sage and a very small amount of ਀猀愀昀昀爀漀渀Ⰰ 洀漀椀猀琀攀渀攀搀 戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀椀砀 眀椀琀栀 眀愀琀攀爀 氀攀昀琀 昀爀漀洀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 瀀攀愀猀Ⰰ 漀爀ഊstock, grind and strain: And have ground ginger mixed with wine, and put on ਀琀漀 戀漀椀氀㬀 琀栀攀渀 愀搀搀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 攀最最猀 瀀漀愀挀栀攀搀 椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀攀琀 椀琀 戀攀 愀 戀爀椀最栀琀ഊgreen. Item, some do not add bread, but instead of bread use bacon. [end of ਀漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀崀ഊ ਀㌀ 吀 瀀愀爀猀氀攀礀ഊ1/2 oz cheese, grated ਀㌀ 猀洀愀氀氀 氀攀愀瘀攀猀 昀爀攀猀栀 猀愀最攀ഊ5 threads saffron ਀㈀ 琀栀椀渀 猀氀椀挀攀猀 㴀 ㄀⸀㔀 漀稀 眀栀椀琀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 ⠀漀爀 戀愀挀漀渀⤀ഊ2 c pea stock or dilute chicken stock ਀㄀⼀㠀 琀 最椀渀最攀爀ഊ1 T white wine ਀㄀ ㌀⼀㐀 漀稀 挀栀攀攀猀攀Ⰰ 最爀愀琀攀搀ഊ3 eggs ਀ഊSoak bread in stock (either water left from cooking peas or 1/2 c canned ਀挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 戀爀漀琀栀 ⬀ ㄀ ㄀⼀㈀ 挀 眀愀琀攀爀⤀⸀ 䜀爀椀渀搀 瀀愀爀猀氀攀礀Ⰰ 猀愀最攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀愀昀昀爀漀渀 椀渀 愀ഊmortar thoroughly; add 1/2 oz cheese and soaked bread and grind together. ਀匀琀爀愀椀渀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 愀 猀琀爀愀椀渀攀爀㬀 椀昀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀Ⰰ 瀀甀琀 戀愀挀欀 椀渀 洀漀爀琀愀爀 眀栀愀琀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 最漀ഊthrough, grind again, and strain again. Mix wine and ginger, add to ਀洀椀砀琀甀爀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀爀椀渀最 琀漀 愀 戀漀椀氀 漀瘀攀爀 洀漀搀攀爀愀琀攀 栀攀愀琀㬀 戀攀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀ഊnot stick to the bottom. Stir in the rest of the cheese; break eggs into ਀猀漀甀瀀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀漀渀琀椀渀甀攀 琀漀 猀椀洀洀攀爀 甀渀琀椀氀 攀最最猀 愀爀攀 瀀漀愀挀栀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀一漀琀攀㨀 圀攀 栀愀瘀攀 甀猀攀搀 戀漀琀栀 䜀漀甀搀愀 愀渀搀 挀栀攀搀搀愀爀 挀栀攀攀猀攀㬀 戀漀琀栀 愀爀攀 最漀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀䔀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀⼀䈀攀琀琀礀 䌀漀漀欀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:51:16 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀攀琀漀渀㄀㌀㔀㔀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: SC - Rec: zuppa alla parvese ਀ഊFrom the **GOOD AND GARLICKY, THICK & HEARTY, SOUL-SATISFYING, MORE THAN ਀䴀䤀一䤀匀吀刀伀一䔀 䤀吀䄀䰀䤀䄀一 匀伀唀倀 䌀伀伀䬀䈀伀伀䬀⨀⨀ 戀礀 䨀漀攀 䘀愀洀甀氀愀爀漀ഊ ਀⨀⨀倀伀䄀䌀䠀䔀䐀 䔀䜀䜀匀 倀䄀刀䴀䤀䜀䤀䄀一伀 䤀一 䈀刀伀吀䠀⨀⨀ഊ**ZUPPA ALLA PAVESE** ਀ഊAlla pavase means "in the style of Pavia", a city close to the Po river in ਀䰀漀洀戀愀爀搀礀 爀攀最椀漀渀 漀昀 䤀琀愀氀礀⸀  吀栀椀猀 猀漀甀瀀 椀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀  ∀愀氀氀攀 瀀愀瘀攀猀攀∀ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 椀琀 眀愀猀ഊcreated in Pavia in 1525 for Francis I, King of France who was fighting ਀䔀洀瀀攀爀漀爀 䌀栀愀猀⸀ 嘀 椀渀 琀栀攀 戀愀琀琀氀攀 漀昀 倀愀瘀椀愀⸀  䄀猀 䰀漀洀戀愀爀搀礀 椀猀 琀栀攀 最爀攀愀琀攀猀琀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀爀ഊof milk in Italy, butter and cream are fresh and abundant. The soup ਀琀栀攀爀攀昀漀爀攀 椀猀 攀渀爀椀挀栀攀搀 戀礀 戀甀琀琀攀爀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 漀椀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀甀琀琀攀爀 椀猀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 戀爀漀眀渀 琀栀攀ഊbread. ਀ഊ4 T unsalted butter, melted ਀㄀㈀ 猀氀椀挀攀猀 漀昀 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀 戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 攀愀挀栀 ㄀∀ 琀栀椀挀欀ഊ8 C beef broth or chicken broth ਀㘀 攀最最猀Ⰰ 瀀漀愀挀栀攀搀ഊ6 T freshly grated parmigano cheese ਀猀愀氀琀 愀渀搀 昀爀攀猀栀氀礀 最爀漀甀渀搀 戀氀愀挀欀 瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀 琀漀 琀愀猀琀攀ഊ ਀倀爀攀栀攀愀琀 漀瘀攀渀 琀漀 ㌀㔀　ഊButter all the bread slices on both sides and place them on a baking sheet. ਀吀漀愀猀琀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀Ⰰ 琀甀爀渀椀渀最 漀渀挀攀Ⰰ 甀渀琀椀氀 最漀氀搀攀渀 漀渀 戀漀琀栀 猀椀搀攀猀  ⠀愀戀漀甀琀ഊ15 min) ਀圀栀椀氀攀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 椀猀 琀漀愀猀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 戀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 戀爀漀琀栀 琀漀 愀 戀漀椀氀 椀渀 愀 洀攀搀椀甀洀 猀椀稀攀 猀漀甀瀀ഊpot over medium heat. Cover and reduce heat to a slow and steady simmer. ਀倀氀愀挀攀 ㈀ 猀氀椀挀攀猀 攀愀挀栀 漀昀 琀漀愀猀琀攀搀 戀爀攀愀搀 椀渀琀漀 㘀 眀椀搀攀 猀漀甀瀀 戀漀眀氀猀Ⰰ 愀爀爀愀渀最椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊslices, side by side. ਀倀氀愀挀攀 愀 瀀漀愀挀栀攀搀 攀最最 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 猀氀椀挀攀猀⸀ഊSprinkle with 1 T grated cheese. ਀䈀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀 戀爀漀琀栀 椀猀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 栀漀琀 愀渀搀 氀愀搀攀氀 椀琀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 攀最最猀⸀ഊAdd salt and pepper and serve immediately. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀ 伀挀琀 ㈀　　㐀 ㄀㤀㨀㄀㐀㨀㈀　 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: "Terry Decker" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 娀愀渀稀愀爀攀氀氀椀ഊTo: "Cooks within the SCA" ਀ഊI've been experimenting. Here is the first recipe (from the work of Maestro ਀䴀愀爀琀椀渀漀⤀ 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 倀爀漀琀攀挀琀漀爀愀琀攀 䘀攀愀猀琀 䤀 愀洀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀娀愀渀稀愀爀攀氀氀椀 椀猀 愀 爀椀挀栀Ⰰ 猀瀀椀挀礀 攀最最 搀爀漀瀀 猀漀甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 椀渀 椀琀⸀  䴀愀爀最愀爀攀琀 愀渀搀 䤀ഊboth enjoyed it and I will probably make it again some cold Winter ਀愀昀琀攀爀渀漀漀渀⸀  吀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 琀漀漀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀　 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀爀漀琀栀 眀愀猀 挀愀渀渀攀搀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 戀爀漀琀栀⸀  䤀 搀椀搀 渀漀琀 愀搀搀 猀愀氀琀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 椀琀 眀愀猀ഊalready present in the broth. I will be using broth of my preparation for ਀琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 愀搀搀椀渀最 猀愀氀琀⸀  吀栀攀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 㠀 洀漀渀琀栀猀 漀氀搀 愀渀搀ഊnot as potent as I would like. I'll be using fresh spices for the feast. ਀匀愀氀琀椀渀最 愀渀搀 猀瀀椀挀椀渀最 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 琀漀 琀愀猀琀攀⸀ഊ ਀䈀攀愀爀ഊ ਀娀愀渀稀愀爀攀氀氀椀ഊ ਀吀漀 洀愀欀攀 稀愀渀稀愀爀攀氀氀椀⸀ 吀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀攀渀 瀀氀愀琀攀昀甀氀猀Ⰰ 琀愀欀攀 攀椀最栀琀 攀最最猀Ⰰ 栀愀氀昀 愀 氀椀戀爀愀 漀昀ഊgrated cheese, and breadcrumbs, and mix these things together. Then take a ਀瀀漀琀 漀昀 洀攀愀琀 戀爀漀琀栀 挀漀氀漀爀攀搀 礀攀氀氀漀眀 眀椀琀栀 猀愀昀昀爀漀渀 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 椀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀㬀 愀渀搀ഊwhen it begins to boil put in this mixture and stir with a spoon. And when ਀椀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀椀挀欀攀渀攀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀 甀瀀Ⰰഊthen sprinkle with spices. ਀ഊMartino, Maestro, Libro de arte coquinaria ਀ഊ ਀㈀　 漀甀渀挀攀猀 漀昀 戀爀漀琀栀 漀爀 猀琀漀挀欀ഊ2 eggs ਀㄀ 吀愀戀氀攀猀瀀漀漀渀 漀昀 最爀愀琀攀搀 漀爀 猀栀爀攀搀搀攀搀 爀漀洀愀渀漀 漀爀 瀀愀爀洀攀猀愀渀 挀栀攀攀猀攀ഊ1 Tablespoon fine breadcrumbs ਀㄀⼀㐀 琀攀愀猀瀀漀漀渀 攀愀挀栀 漀昀 戀氀愀挀欀 瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀Ⰰ 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀 愀渀搀 最椀渀最攀爀Ⰰ 戀氀攀渀搀攀搀ഊSalt to taste ਀㈀ 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 漀昀 猀愀昀昀爀漀渀 ⠀椀昀 搀攀猀椀爀攀搀⤀ഊWhisk the eggs in a bowl ਀ഊAdd the cheese and the breadcrumbs and whisk until evenly dispersed and the ਀洀椀砀琀甀爀攀 琀栀椀挀欀攀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀甀琀 琀栀攀 戀爀漀琀栀 椀渀 愀 猀愀甀挀攀瀀愀渀 愀渀搀 戀爀椀渀最 琀漀 愀 戀漀椀氀⸀ഊ ਀䄀搀搀 琀栀攀 猀愀昀昀爀漀渀Ⰰ 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 愀渀搀 氀攀琀 猀琀愀渀搀 昀漀爀 愀 昀攀眀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀 琀漀ഊpermit the saffron to color the broth. ਀ഊReturn the broth to the heat and bring to a second boil. ਀ഊAdd the egg mixture and whisk until the ingredients are blended into the ਀戀爀漀琀栀⸀ 刀攀洀漀瘀攀 昀爀漀洀 栀攀愀琀⸀ഊ ਀䄀搀搀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀挀攀 戀氀攀渀搀 ㄀⼀㐀 琀攀愀猀瀀漀漀渀 愀琀 愀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀猀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀洀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 戀爀漀琀栀Ⰰഊuntil the desired taste is reached. ਀ഊMakes 3 cups of soup. ਀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀猀 愀 爀椀挀栀 猀漀甀瀀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 琀漀 攀最最 搀爀漀瀀 猀漀甀瀀⸀ഊ ਀䄀搀搀椀渀最 洀漀爀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 戀爀攀愀搀挀爀甀洀戀猀 眀椀氀氀 琀栀椀挀欀攀渀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀瀀⸀ഊ ਀匀瀀椀挀攀猀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀搀搀攀搀 戀礀 琀愀猀琀攀Ⰰ 愀猀 昀爀攀猀栀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 洀愀礀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀 氀攀猀猀 琀栀愀渀ഊspecified in the recipe. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 㘀 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㘀 ㄀　㨀㈀㐀㨀㐀㐀 ⴀ　㜀　　ഊFrom: Jim Davis ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䴀礀 一攀砀琀 䘀攀愀猀琀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊI used the Green Bruet with Cheese and Eggs 3 years ago at Caid 12th ਀渀椀最栀琀 眀椀琀栀 最爀攀愀琀 猀甀挀挀攀猀猀⸀  䤀 甀猀攀搀 愀 瘀攀最攀琀愀戀氀攀ⴀ戀愀猀攀搀 戀爀漀琀栀 挀漀渀挀攀渀琀爀愀琀攀ഊfrom Whole Foods market, so i could feed it to vegetarians, who will ਀猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀愀琀 攀最最猀Ⰰ 䤀 昀椀渀搀⸀  䤀 栀愀搀 琀眀漀 猀漀甀瀀猀㨀  琀栀愀琀 愀渀搀 愀渀 漀渀椀漀渀ⴀ戀愀猀攀搀ഊsoup. I came closest to running out of the Green Bruet. ਀ഊJared ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䘀攀戀 ㈀　　㤀 ㄀㠀㨀㌀㈀㨀㔀㠀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: chawkswrth at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 匀漀甀瀀 愀渀搀 攀最最猀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀ഊTo: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org ਀ഊThis is one of the two I found. the other I am looking at is at home (I'm at work) on that computer. :-) ਀ഊBut, this should give you an idea of what I m looking at. ਀ഊFrom le Menagier de Paris by way of the Miscellany: ਀ഊGreen Broth of Eggs and Cheese ਀䴀攀渀愀最椀攀爀 瀀⸀ 䴀ⴀ㈀㈀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 瀀愀爀猀氀攀礀 愀渀搀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 猀愀最攀 愀渀搀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 猀洀愀氀氀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀ഊsaffron, moistened bread, and mix with water left from cooking peas, or ਀猀琀漀挀欀Ⰰ 最爀椀渀搀 愀渀搀 猀琀爀愀椀渀㨀 䄀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 最椀渀最攀爀 洀椀砀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 眀椀渀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 漀渀ഊto boil; then add cheese and eggs poached in water, and let it be a bright ਀最爀攀攀渀⸀ 䤀琀攀洀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 搀漀 渀漀琀 愀搀搀 戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 戀爀攀愀搀 甀猀攀 戀愀挀漀渀⸀ 嬀攀渀搀 漀昀ഊoriginal] ਀ഊ3 T parsley ਀㄀⼀㈀ 漀稀 挀栀攀攀猀攀Ⰰ 最爀愀琀攀搀ഊ3 small leaves fresh sage ਀㔀 琀栀爀攀愀搀猀 猀愀昀昀爀漀渀ഊ2 thin slices = 1.5 oz white bread (or bacon) ਀㈀ 挀 瀀攀愀 猀琀漀挀欀 漀爀 搀椀氀甀琀攀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 猀琀漀挀欀ഊ1/8 t ginger ਀㄀ 吀 眀栀椀琀攀 眀椀渀攀ഊ1 3/4 oz cheese, grate ਀㌀ 攀最最猀ഊ ਀匀漀愀欀 戀爀攀愀搀 椀渀 猀琀漀挀欀 ⠀攀椀琀栀攀爀 眀愀琀攀爀 氀攀昀琀 昀爀漀洀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 瀀攀愀猀 漀爀 ㄀⼀㈀ 挀 挀愀渀渀攀搀ഊchicken broth + 1 1/2 c water). Grind parsley, sage, and saffron in a ਀洀漀爀琀愀爀 琀栀漀爀漀甀最栀氀礀㬀 愀搀搀 ㄀⼀㈀ 漀稀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 猀漀愀欀攀搀 戀爀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 最爀椀渀搀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀⸀ഊStrain through a strainer; if necessary, put back in mortar what didn't go ਀琀栀爀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 最爀椀渀搀 愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀琀爀愀椀渀 愀最愀椀渀⸀ 䴀椀砀 眀椀渀攀 愀渀搀 最椀渀最攀爀Ⰰ 愀搀搀 琀漀ഊmixture, and bring to a boil over moderate heat; be careful that it does ਀渀漀琀 猀琀椀挀欀 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀⸀ 匀琀椀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀㬀 戀爀攀愀欀 攀最最猀 椀渀琀漀ഊsoup, and continue to simmer until eggs are poached. ਀ഊHelen ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㔀 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㤀 ㄀　㨀㐀　㨀㈀㌀ ⬀㄀㈀　　ഊFrom: Antonia Calvo ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Soupe Crottee (Vivendier) - any experience? ਀ഊVolker Bach wrote: ਀㰀㰀㰀 䤀 眀愀猀 戀漀漀欀攀搀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀渀 䐀攀挀攀洀戀攀爀 愀渀搀 䤀 愀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀最愀椀渀 愀琀 琀栀攀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀⸀ 伀渀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 氀漀漀欀攀搀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 椀猀 琀栀攀 嘀椀瘀攀渀搀椀攀爀✀猀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 ⌀㈀㘀 昀漀爀 猀漀甀瀀攀 挀爀漀琀琀攀攀⸀  䈀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 眀栀椀琀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 戀漀椀氀攀搀 椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 眀椀渀攀⸀ 䤀 挀愀渀 琀栀椀渀欀 漀昀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 椀渀琀攀爀瀀爀攀琀愀琀椀漀渀猀 栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 愀 挀栀攀攀猀攀ⴀ昀氀愀瘀漀甀爀攀搀 ⠀戀甀琀 漀琀栀攀爀眀椀猀攀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 椀渀猀椀瀀椀搀⤀ 戀爀攀愀搀 瀀漀爀爀椀搀最攀 琀漀 愀 洀愀猀猀 漀昀 最漀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀漀最最礀 戀爀攀愀搀 氀甀洀瀀猀 椀渀 椀琀⸀ 䠀愀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀攀爀攀 琀爀椀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 漀爀 愀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀昀 猀漀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 眀栀愀琀 爀攀猀甀氀琀猀㼀 䤀 眀愀猀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最 愀氀漀渀最 琀栀攀 氀椀渀攀猀 漀昀 琀爀礀椀渀最 愀 爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 猀洀愀氀氀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 愀 氀漀渀最 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀漀 挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 琀漀 昀愀氀氀 愀瀀愀爀琀Ⰰ 最椀瘀椀渀最 洀攀 愀 爀椀挀栀 瀀漀爀爀椀搀最攀氀椀欀攀 搀椀猀栀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 最氀漀漀瀀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 猀漀瀀猀⸀ 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀䘀椀爀猀琀 漀昀 愀氀氀Ⰰ 䤀✀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 猀愀礀 礀甀洀Ⰰ 礀甀洀℀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 眀栀礀 礀漀甀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀漀 戀攀 最氀漀漀瀀礀Ⰰ 氀甀洀瀀礀 漀爀 瀀漀爀爀椀搀最礀⸀  䤀 ഊexpect it to be about the consistancy of, well, thickish soup. I'm not ਀猀甀爀攀 愀 氀漀渀最 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 琀栀椀挀欀渀攀猀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 洀甀琀甀愀氀氀礀 挀漀洀瀀愀琀椀戀氀攀⸀ഊ-- ਀䄀渀琀漀渀椀愀 搀椀 䈀攀渀攀搀攀琀琀漀 䌀愀氀瘀漀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:12:15 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀栀椀氀 吀爀漀礀 ⼀ 䜀⸀ 吀愀挀椀琀甀猀 䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀∀ 㰀愀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀㄀ 愀琀 瘀攀爀椀稀漀渀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 匀漀甀瀀攀 䌀爀漀琀琀攀攀 ⠀嘀椀瘀攀渀搀椀攀爀⤀ ⴀ 愀渀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀伀渀 匀攀瀀 ㈀㐀Ⰰ ㈀　　㤀Ⰰ 愀琀 㘀㨀㐀　 倀䴀Ⰰ 䄀渀琀漀渀椀愀 䌀愀氀瘀漀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ<<< First of all, I'd like to say yum, yum! ਀ഊI'm not sure why you expect this to be gloopy, lumpy or porridgy. I ਀攀砀瀀攀挀琀 椀琀 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀愀渀挀礀 漀昀Ⰰ 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 琀栀椀挀欀椀猀栀 猀漀甀瀀⸀ 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀䐀椀搀 礀漀甀 猀攀攀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 戀爀攀愀搀 猀愀甀挀攀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 洀椀渀搀 昀漀爀 樀甀猀琀 愀 洀漀洀攀渀琀 栀攀爀攀Ⰰ  ഊtoo? ਀ഊ<<< I'm not sure a long cooking time, thickness, and cheese are ਀洀甀琀甀愀氀氀礀 挀漀洀瀀愀琀椀戀氀攀⸀ 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 䤀✀洀 椀渀挀氀椀渀攀搀 琀漀 愀最爀攀攀⸀ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 戀漀椀氀  ഊeverything together may be part of an overall desire to keep the dish ਀昀爀漀洀 戀爀攀愀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 眀椀氀氀 猀琀椀氀氀 最椀瘀攀 椀琀 愀 挀甀爀搀氀攀搀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀  ഊ(which Scully seems to claim is the probable source for the name). ਀䴀愀礀戀攀 琀爀礀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最 漀昀 椀琀 愀猀 愀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 攀洀甀氀猀椀昀椀攀搀 戀爀漀琀栀 洀愀搀攀 爀愀琀栀攀爀  ഊquickly: boil water and wine in a wide pan, throw in your bread and ਀挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 猀琀椀爀 琀栀攀 氀椀瘀椀渀最 戀攀樀攀攀戀甀猀 漀甀琀 漀昀 椀琀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 椀猀  ഊmelted and the bread completely moistened and semi-disintegrated, ਀猀攀爀瘀攀 栀漀琀 焀甀椀挀欀氀礀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 氀漀琀 眀椀氀氀 搀攀瀀攀渀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀⸀ഊ ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:21:06 +1200 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䄀渀琀漀渀椀愀 䌀愀氀瘀漀 㰀氀愀搀礀愀搀攀氀攀 愀琀 瀀愀爀愀搀椀猀攀⸀渀攀琀⸀渀稀㸀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 匀漀甀瀀攀 䌀爀漀琀琀攀攀 ⠀嘀椀瘀攀渀搀椀攀爀⤀ ⴀ 愀渀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀倀栀椀氀 吀爀漀礀 ⼀ 䜀⸀ 吀愀挀椀琀甀猀 䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ<<< ਀㰀 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 眀栀礀 礀漀甀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀漀 戀攀 最氀漀漀瀀礀Ⰰ 氀甀洀瀀礀 漀爀 瀀漀爀爀椀搀最礀⸀  䤀  ഊexpect it [soupe crottee] to be about the consistancy of, well, ਀琀栀椀挀欀椀猀栀 猀漀甀瀀⸀ 㸀ഊ ਀䐀椀搀 礀漀甀 猀攀攀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 戀爀攀愀搀 猀愀甀挀攀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 洀椀渀搀 昀漀爀 樀甀猀琀 愀 洀漀洀攀渀琀 栀攀爀攀Ⰰ  ഊtoo? >>> ਀ഊIt was lot more than a moment, actually. ਀ഊ<<< ਀㰀 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 愀 氀漀渀最 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 琀栀椀挀欀渀攀猀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀爀攀  ഊmutually compatible. > ਀ഊI think I'm inclined to agree. I think the instruction to boil ਀攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 洀愀礀 戀攀  瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀渀 漀瘀攀爀愀氀氀 搀攀猀椀爀攀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 ഊdish from breaking, but the bread will still give it a curdled ਀愀瀀瀀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀  ⠀眀栀椀挀栀 匀挀甀氀氀礀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 挀氀愀椀洀 椀猀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀 ഊthe name). Maybe try thinking of it as a sort of emulsified broth ਀洀愀搀攀 爀愀琀栀攀爀  焀甀椀挀欀氀礀㨀 戀漀椀氀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 眀椀渀攀 椀渀 愀 眀椀搀攀 瀀愀渀Ⰰ 琀栀爀漀眀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 ഊbread and cheese and stir the living bejeebus out of it until the ਀挀栀攀攀猀攀 椀猀  洀攀氀琀攀搀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀氀礀 洀漀椀猀琀攀渀攀搀 愀渀搀 ഊsemi-disintegrated, serve hot quickly... ਀㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 眀愀猀 琀栀愀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀搀搀攀搀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀 戀椀琀 洀漀爀攀 猀氀漀眀氀礀Ⰰ ഊdidn't put in excessively much stirred well, and didn't boil too hard, ਀礀漀甀✀搀 最攀琀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 洀椀搀眀愀礀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 愀 琀栀椀渀渀椀猀栀 戀爀攀愀搀 猀愀甀挀攀 愀渀搀 愀 琀栀椀渀渀椀猀栀 ഊfondue. Would be great with some toast sippets and with some cinnamon, ਀瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀 愀渀搀 猀甀最愀爀 漀渀 琀漀瀀Ⰰ 漀爀 猀漀洀攀 眀攀氀氀ⴀ昀爀椀攀搀 漀渀椀漀渀猀⸀ഊ-- ਀䄀渀琀漀渀椀愀 搀椀 䈀攀渀攀搀攀琀琀漀 䌀愀氀瘀漀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:35:37 +0000 (GMT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 嘀漀氀欀攀爀 䈀愀挀栀 㰀挀愀爀氀琀漀渀开戀愀挀栀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀搀攀㸀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 匀漀甀瀀攀 䌀爀漀琀琀攀攀 ⠀嘀椀瘀攀渀搀椀攀爀⤀ ⴀ 愀渀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀ 䄀渀琀漀渀椀愀 䌀愀氀瘀漀 㰀氀愀搀礀愀搀攀氀攀 愀琀 瀀愀爀愀搀椀猀攀⸀渀攀琀⸀渀稀㸀 猀挀栀爀椀攀戀 愀洀 䘀爀Ⰰ ㈀㔀⸀㤀⸀㈀　　㤀㨀ഊ ਀嘀漀氀欀攀爀 䈀愀挀栀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ<<< I was booked to cook a feast in December and I am ਀氀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀最愀椀渀 愀琀 琀栀攀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀⸀ 伀渀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 氀漀漀欀攀搀ഊinteresting is the Vivendier's recipe #26 for soupe ਀挀爀漀琀琀攀攀⸀  䈀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀渀搀 眀栀椀琀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 戀漀椀氀攀搀ഊin water and wine. I can think of several interpretations ਀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 愀 挀栀攀攀猀攀ⴀ昀氀愀瘀漀甀爀攀搀 ⠀戀甀琀 漀琀栀攀爀眀椀猀攀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 椀渀猀椀瀀椀搀⤀ഊbread porridge to a mass of goo with soggy bread lumps in ਀椀琀⸀ 䠀愀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀攀爀攀 琀爀椀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 漀爀 愀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊif so, with what results? I was thinking along the lines of ਀琀爀礀椀渀最 愀 爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 猀洀愀氀氀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 愀 氀漀渀最 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊperiod to cause the bread to fall apart, giving me a rich ਀瀀漀爀爀椀搀最攀氀椀欀攀 搀椀猀栀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 最氀漀漀瀀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 猀漀瀀猀⸀ 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀䘀椀爀猀琀 漀昀 愀氀氀Ⰰ 䤀✀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 猀愀礀 礀甀洀Ⰰ 礀甀洀℀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 眀栀礀 礀漀甀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀漀 戀攀 最氀漀漀瀀礀Ⰰ 氀甀洀瀀礀 漀爀ഊporridgy. I expect it to be about the consistancy of, ਀眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 琀栀椀挀欀椀猀栀 猀漀甀瀀⸀  䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 愀 氀漀渀最 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀椀洀攀Ⰰഊthickness, and cheese are mutually compatible. ਀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 琀攀爀爀椀戀氀礀 挀漀渀瘀攀爀猀愀渀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀猀 漀昀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 挀漀漀欀攀爀礀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀✀洀 最漀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 眀椀琀栀 戀爀攀愀搀 瀀漀爀爀椀搀最攀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 椀 猀愀礀 ✀氀漀渀最✀Ⰰ 䤀 洀攀愀渀 椀渀 琀攀爀洀猀 漀昀 愀 昀攀眀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 猀愀礀猀 渀漀琀栀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 猀琀椀爀爀椀渀最Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 愀猀猀甀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀搀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 昀爀漀洀 猀琀椀挀欀椀渀最 愀渀搀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最⸀ ഊ ਀匀挀甀氀氀礀 眀爀椀琀攀猀 漀昀 猀瀀攀挀甀氀愀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 ✀挀爀漀琀琀攀攀✀ 椀猀 搀攀爀椀瘀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 氀甀洀瀀礀 漀爀 挀甀爀搀氀攀搀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀栀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 愀 猀洀漀漀琀栀 猀漀甀瀀⸀ 䤀✀洀 愀氀猀漀 愀 戀椀琀 猀甀爀瀀爀椀猀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 甀猀攀猀 眀愀琀攀爀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 戀爀漀琀栀⸀ ഊ ਀圀栀愀琀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 礀漀甀 琀栀椀渀欀 眀漀甀氀搀 眀漀爀欀㼀 䤀✀洀 猀琀愀爀琀椀渀最 漀甀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀愀瀀 猀琀甀昀昀 甀渀琀椀氀 䤀 最攀琀 洀礀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 搀漀眀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀✀洀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最 愀 洀漀爀攀 椀渀琀攀渀猀攀 昀氀愀瘀漀甀爀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 最漀漀搀⸀ 吀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 猀愀礀猀 ✀昀愀琀✀ 挀栀攀攀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀䌀栀攀攀爀猀ഊ ਀䜀椀愀渀漀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:04:32 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䔀氀愀椀渀攀 䬀漀漀最氀攀爀 㰀欀椀爀椀搀漀渀漀 愀琀 最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 匀漀甀瀀攀 䌀爀漀琀琀攀攀 ⠀嘀椀瘀攀渀搀椀攀爀⤀ ⴀ 愀渀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀䜀甀礀攀爀攀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 昀椀渀搀 椀琀Ⰰ 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 礀甀洀洀礀⸀  䘀愀椀氀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 琀爀礀 䄀猀椀愀最漀 ⠀渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 椀昀 椀琀✀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀甀琀 椀琀✀搀 戀攀 最漀漀搀⤀ 漀爀 攀瘀攀渀 匀眀椀猀猀⸀ഊ ਀䬀椀爀椀ഊ ਀伀渀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ 匀攀瀀 ㈀㔀Ⰰ ㈀　　㤀 愀琀 㘀㨀㌀㔀 䄀䴀Ⰰ 嘀漀氀欀攀爀 䈀愀挀栀 㰀挀愀爀氀琀漀渀开戀愀挀栀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀搀攀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ<<< What kind of cheese would you think would work? I'm starting out with the cheap stuff until I get my technique down, but I'm thinking a more intense flavour would be good. The recipe says 'fat' cheese. ਀ഊGiano >>> ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㔀 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㤀 　㤀㨀㄀㌀㨀㔀㄀ ⴀ　㜀　　 ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Raphaella DiContini ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Soupe Crottee (Vivendier) - any experience? ਀ഊI would humbly suggest trying fontina, as it's fairly fatty and tends to melt well. It has a good flavor, but isn't overpowering. ਀ഊRaffaella ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㈀㘀 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㤀 　㜀㨀㈀㠀㨀㄀㄀ ⬀㄀㈀　　ഊFrom: Antonia Calvo ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Soupe Crottee (Vivendier) - any experience? ਀ഊJohnna Holloway wrote: ਀㰀㰀㰀 䤀 挀漀甀氀搀 猀攀攀 琀栀椀猀 愀猀 洀愀搀攀 甀瀀 昀漀爀 㐀ⴀ㘀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 愀洀 眀漀渀搀攀爀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 ഊthe practicalities of it when made ਀甀瀀 昀漀爀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀 㐀　 漀爀 㘀　 漀爀 ㄀　　 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⸀ 䠀漀眀✀猀 椀琀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 眀栀攀渀 ഊit's gallons of soup, pounds of bread, and pounds of cheese? >>> ਀ഊI think you could do it for 40-60, but you would have to do it in more ਀琀栀愀渀 漀渀攀 瀀漀琀⸀ഊ ਀㰀㰀㰀 圀椀氀氀 椀琀 栀漀氀搀 甀瀀 眀攀氀氀 椀昀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀猀 搀攀氀愀礀攀搀㼀 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀䄀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 琀栀爀攀愀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 ∀倀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 搀漀 渀漀琀 挀漀洀攀 琀漀 琀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 ഊtime will NOT get any cheese soup." ਀ⴀⴀ ഊAntonia di Benedetto Calvo ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㈀㘀 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㤀 　㜀㨀㌀㄀㨀　㜀 ⬀㄀㈀　　ഊFrom: Antonia Calvo ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Soupe Crottee (Vivendier) - any experience? ਀ഊSusan Lin wrote: ਀㰀㰀㰀 䤀 愀最爀攀攀 ⴀ 琀栀椀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 昀爀漀洀 眀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 爀攀愀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀渀 愀 氀愀爀最攀ഊquantity. ਀ഊCould it be revised to resemble more of what in modern times is french onion ਀猀漀甀瀀㼀  圀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 椀猀 瀀氀愀挀攀搀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀爀漀琀栀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 漀渀 琀漀瀀ഊof that? >>> ਀ഊProbably, but bread floating in wina and water with cheese on to isn't ਀焀甀椀琀攀 琀栀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀⸀  䤀琀 愀氀猀漀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 猀漀甀渀搀 愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 最漀漀搀⸀ ഊ ਀㰀㰀㰀 䤀✀瘀攀 琀爀椀攀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 猀漀甀瀀 愀渀搀 椀昀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 渀漀琀 瘀攀爀礀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀ഊmuch gloppyness as the cheese congeels and sticks together (and then burns ਀琀漀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀愀渀⤀⸀ 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀䤀琀 栀攀氀瀀猀 椀昀 礀漀甀 最漀 猀氀漀眀氀礀ⴀⴀ 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀搀搀 琀漀漀 洀甀挀栀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 愀琀 漀渀挀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 ഊreally likes to glom together rather than mix with the liquid-- ਀攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀搀搀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 琀漀 氀椀焀甀椀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀渀✀琀 焀甀椀琀攀 栀漀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀⸀ഊ-- ਀䄀渀琀漀渀椀愀 搀椀 䈀攀渀攀搀攀琀琀漀 䌀愀氀瘀漀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:27:08 -0700 (PDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䠀甀攀琀琀攀 瘀漀渀 䄀栀爀攀渀猀 㰀愀栀爀攀渀猀栀愀瘀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 匀漀甀瀀攀 䌀爀漀琀琀攀攀 ⠀嘀椀瘀攀渀搀椀攀爀⤀ ⴀ 愀渀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀䠀椀 䜀椀愀渀漀℀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀渀搀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 洀礀 挀漀瀀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 嘀椀瘀攀渀搀椀攀爀⸀  䤀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 洀椀猀瀀氀愀挀攀搀 椀琀 猀漀洀攀眀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀 挀愀渀渀漀琀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 猀愀礀猀Ⰰ 猀椀渀挀攀 礀漀甀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀爀 瀀漀猀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 栀漀眀 礀漀甀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀 琀栀椀猀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 爀攀洀椀渀搀猀 洀攀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 䬀㼀猀攀猀甀瀀瀀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 昀漀爀 愀 戀愀渀焀甀攀琀 漀昀 ㄀㔀　 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀搀 渀漀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 最氀漀瀀椀渀最 漀爀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最⸀  吀栀攀 欀攀礀 琀漀 琀栀椀猀 䤀 昀攀攀氀 椀猀 琀漀 栀攀愀琀 甀瀀 礀漀甀爀 戀愀猀攀Ⰰ 戀攀 椀琀 戀攀攀昀 猀琀漀挀欀 漀爀 眀椀渀攀 琀栀攀渀 氀漀眀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀氀愀洀攀 愀渀搀 愀搀搀 琀栀攀 挀栀攀攀猀攀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 洀攀氀琀猀⸀ 䤀 甀猀攀搀 瀀爀攀ⴀ最爀愀琀攀搀 匀眀椀猀猀 挀栀攀攀猀攀⸀ 伀渀挀攀 椀琀 栀愀猀 洀攀氀琀攀搀Ⰰ 琀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀瀀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 愀渀搀 椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀 愀搀搀 礀漀甀爀 琀栀椀挀欀攀渀攀爀 嬀攀最最猀 愀渀搀 挀爀攀愀洀崀⸀  吀栀攀渀 猀攀愀猀漀渀⸀  圀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 猀攀爀瘀攀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀瀀Ⰰ 瀀甀琀 挀爀漀甀琀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 爀椀渀最猀 漀昀 漀渀椀漀渀 椀渀 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀 椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀瀀 最漀琀 琀栀攀 搀椀渀攀爀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀爀漀甀琀漀渀猀 栀愀搀 猀漀昀琀攀渀攀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀爀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 爀攀挀漀最渀椀稀愀戀氀攀 愀猀 挀爀漀甀琀漀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀漀瀀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 眀椀氀氀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 猀漀洀攀 栀攀氀瀀 攀瘀攀渀 椀昀 䤀 挀愀渀渀漀琀 猀瀀攀愀欀 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 琀漀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀⸀  ഊ ਀䠀甀攀琀琀攀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. 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