sauerkraut-msg - 6/21/09 ਀ഊPeriod sauerkraut and pickled cabbage. ਀ഊNOTE: See also these files: cabbages-msg, fd-Germany-msg, pickled-foods-msg, salads-msg, fd-Russia-msg, fd-East-Eur-msg, vinegar-msg, compost-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:15:54 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 瘀樀愀爀洀猀琀爀漀渀最 愀琀 愀爀椀猀琀漀琀氀攀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀嘀愀氀漀椀猀攀 䄀爀洀猀琀爀漀渀最⤀ഊSubject: SC - Sauerkraut ਀ഊYesterday I was reading Bernd Roeck's _Baecker, Brot und Getreide in ਀䄀甀最猀戀甀爀最开 愀渀搀 䤀 爀愀渀 愀挀爀漀猀猀 愀 氀椀猀琀 漀昀 洀愀爀欀攀琀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀椀琀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀椀搀ⴀ㄀㘀琀栀ഊcentury. There was one market area specifically for sauerkraut. Still ਀栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀渀礀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀 椀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 猀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 愀 搀攀猀椀最渀愀琀攀搀 愀爀攀愀 昀漀爀ഊsauerkraut merchants I wonder if, in urban areas, it wasn't a guild ਀愀挀爀椀瘀椀琀礀⸀ഊ ਀嘀愀氀漀椀猀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:42:37 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 瘀樀愀爀洀猀琀爀漀渀最 愀琀 愀爀椀猀琀漀琀氀攀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀嘀愀氀漀椀猀攀 䄀爀洀猀琀爀漀渀最⤀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Sauerkraut ਀ഊRas wrote: ਀㸀䌀漀漀氀℀ 䌀漀甀氀搀 礀漀甀 眀爀椀琀攀 搀漀眀渀 愀渀搀 猀攀渀搀 琀栀攀 匀倀䔀䌀䤀䘀䤀䌀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 ⠀瀀甀戀⸀Ⰰ 瀀最⸀ 攀琀挀⸀⤀⸀ഊ>I've just added sauerkraut to the Oct. menu. :-) Period-like, of course, but ਀㸀椀琀 圀䤀䰀䰀 戀攀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀刀漀攀挀欀Ⰰ  䈀攀爀渀搀⸀  䈀愀攀挀欀攀爀Ⰰ 䈀爀漀琀 甀渀搀 䜀攀琀爀攀椀搀攀 椀渀 䄀甀最猀戀甀爀最⸀ 匀椀最洀愀爀椀渀最攀渀㨀 䨀愀渀ഊThorbecke Verlag, 1987. ਀ഊIt's probably out of print, but I got it fairly easily through interlibrary ਀氀漀愀渀⸀ 䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 猀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 䤀匀䈀一Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 瀀栀漀琀漀挀漀瀀椀攀搀 眀栀愀琀 䤀 渀攀攀搀攀搀⸀ 䤀琀✀猀 渀漀琀 愀猀ഊinteresting as it sounds at first - the subtitle translates to something ਀氀椀欀攀 ⴀ 吀栀攀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀愀欀椀渀最 琀爀愀搀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀漀氀椀琀椀挀猀 漀昀 猀甀瀀瀀氀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊImperial city at the time of the Thirty Year's War_. But mixed in with the ਀漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀渀搀 瀀漀氀椀琀椀挀愀氀 猀琀甀昀昀 愀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 渀椀挀攀 琀椀搀戀椀琀猀Ⰰ 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀ഊbudget for an orphange in 1572 and speculation from period sources on what ਀琀栀攀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 挀氀愀猀猀 愀琀攀 愀渀搀 猀瀀攀渀琀 漀渀 昀漀漀搀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀氀猀漀 愀渀 愀瀀瀀攀渀搀椀砀 琀栀愀琀ഊgiving the Augsburg municipal baking laws from 1606. ਀ഊIt's cultural history, academic and in German, but there are some SCA ਀愀瀀瀀氀椀挀愀戀氀攀 瀀愀爀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀嘀愀氀漀椀猀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:13:07 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 愀氀氀椀氀礀渀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䰀夀一 䴀 倀䄀刀䬀䤀一匀伀一⤀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Sauerkraut ਀ഊ>>I've just added sauerkraut to the Oct. menu. :-) Period-like, of ਀挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀  椀琀 圀䤀䰀䰀 戀攀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀ ഊ Ras (Still hoping for a recipe but will fudge it if I have to. ;-))<< ਀ഊIf this was a guild activity, you probably aren't going to get a recipe. ਀䤀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 ✀洀礀猀琀攀爀礀✀ 愀渀搀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀氀礀 栀椀搀搀攀渀 猀攀挀爀攀琀⸀  吀栀攀 昀愀爀洀 眀椀瘀攀猀ഊwould have known how to make it, but they didn't write cookbooks in ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀  倀爀攀猀攀渀琀 搀愀礀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀猀 洀甀挀栀 猀眀攀攀琀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀ഊtraditional USA stuff we've grown up with. I didn't like it, being used ਀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀栀愀爀瀀攀爀Ⰰ 猀愀氀琀椀攀爀 琀愀猀琀攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 搀椀氀氀 椀渀 椀琀⸀  一漀眀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊNorthern Germans may make it that way--I've lived in Frankfurt A/M, the ਀愀爀攀愀猀 渀漀爀琀栀攀愀猀琀 漀昀 一甀爀攀洀戀攀爀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀渀 䈀愀瘀愀爀椀愀 愀渀搀 匀眀愀戀椀愀⸀  ഊ ਀䈀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 猀栀爀攀搀搀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 瀀椀挀欀氀攀搀 椀渀 猀愀氀琀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 愀挀椀搀椀挀Ⰰ 琀爀礀ഊnot to use an aluminum pan, but I'm sure you know that. The differences ਀椀渀 ✀猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀✀ 挀漀洀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 礀漀甀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 椀琀ⴀⴀ愀搀搀椀渀最 戀愀挀漀渀 瀀椀琀猀Ⰰഊwursts, onion, wine or champagne, dill seed, caraway seed, apples, etc. ਀吀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 攀椀琀栀攀爀⼀漀爀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 愀氀氀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀氀椀猀漀渀ഊallilyn at juno.com, Barony Marche of the Debatable Lands, Pittsburgh, PA ਀䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 漀昀 䄀攀琀栀攀氀洀攀愀爀挀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 15:28:13 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 欀愀琀栀氀攀攀渀⸀栀漀最愀渀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䬀愀琀栀氀攀攀渀 䴀 䠀漀最愀渀⤀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Sauerkraut ਀ഊOn Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:13:07 -0500 allilyn at juno.com (LYN M PARKINSON) ਀眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>>>I've just added sauerkraut to the Oct. menu. :-) Period-like, of ਀㸀挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀  椀琀 圀䤀䰀䰀 戀攀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀                  刀愀猀 ⠀匀琀椀氀氀 栀漀瀀椀渀最 昀漀爀ഊ>a recipe but will fudge it if I have to. ;-))<< ਀ഊ>Basically, it's shredded cabbage pickled in salt. It's quite acidic, ਀㸀琀爀礀 渀漀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀 愀渀 愀氀甀洀椀渀甀洀 瀀愀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀✀洀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀愀琀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 眀愀礀 洀礀 䴀漀琀栀攀爀 氀攀愀爀渀攀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀  椀琀 ⠀眀攀 氀椀瘀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 刀愀洀猀琀攀椀渀 愀爀攀愀⤀ 眀愀猀ഊfairly simple, but takes a loooong time. She used to layer shredded ਀挀愀戀戀愀最攀 愀渀搀 欀漀猀栀攀爀 猀愀氀琀 椀渀 愀 猀琀漀渀攀眀愀爀攀 挀爀漀挀欀 ⠀愀 爀攀最甀氀愀爀 搀椀渀渀攀爀 瀀氀愀琀攀 昀椀琀ഊinside it just to fit)...about 2" cabbage and a tb or so of salt, then ਀洀愀猀栀攀搀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 眀漀漀搀攀渀 洀愀猀栀攀爀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 挀愀洀攀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀⸀ഊThen another layer of cabbage and salt and more mashing...continuing this ਀甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 挀愀洀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀爀漀挀欀⸀ 匀栀攀 琀栀攀渀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀琀攀 漀渀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀ഊa weight (she used a quart jar of water). We then put it in the back of ਀琀栀攀 最愀爀愀最攀 ⠀愀 挀漀漀氀 搀愀爀欀 瀀氀愀挀攀⤀ 昀漀爀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 洀漀渀琀栀猀⸀  䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 漀渀攀 漀昀ഊour neighbors complaining that it smelled like something died in the ਀最愀爀愀最攀 ⠀眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 洀椀氀氀 栀攀爀攀 椀渀 䄀甀最甀猀琀愀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀 戀氀漀眀猀ഊfrom the mill, it smells like Mom's sourkraut...I think I'm one of the ਀昀攀眀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 栀攀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 氀椀欀攀猀 琀栀攀 猀洀攀氀氀⤀⸀  䈀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀爀欀爀愀甀琀ഊwas WONDERFUL. I can't document it as a period method, but it is ਀挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 戀攀⸀ഊ ਀䌀愀椀琀氀椀渀 一椀挀䘀栀椀漀渀最栀甀椀渀ഊHouse Oak & Thistle ਀匀栀椀爀攀 漀昀 䈀漀爀搀攀爀瘀愀氀攀 䬀攀攀瀀Ⰰ 䄀琀氀愀渀琀椀愀ഊAugusta, GA ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㄀  伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㈀㄀㨀㐀㤀㨀㈀㄀ ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: vjarmstrong at aristotle.net (Valoise Armstrong) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 吀眀漀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 匀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀ഊ ਀圀栀漀 眀愀猀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⴀ 眀愀猀 琀栀愀琀 刀愀猀㼀 圀攀氀氀 䤀 樀甀猀琀 最漀琀 洀礀ഊhands on a copy of Marx Rumpolts' Ein New Kochbook (1581), used up a ream ਀漀昀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 琀漀 瀀栀漀琀漀挀漀瀀礀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀最⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 栀愀搀 愀 挀栀愀渀挀攀 琀漀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀ഊit, but I flipped through the chapter on miscellaneous prepared dishes and ਀昀漀甀渀搀 琀眀漀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀氀氀 昀漀爀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 漀琀栀攀爀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 栀甀最攀ഊbook and I don't really have time to read it right now. I've substituted ਀洀漀搀攀爀渀 ✀猀✀ 昀漀爀洀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 漀氀搀 漀渀攀猀 愀渀搀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 漀渀攀猀⸀ 䠀攀爀攀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀㄀㄀㄀⸀ 匀愀甀爀 䬀爀愀甀琀 洀椀琀 攀椀渀攀爀 最攀猀漀琀琀攀渀攀渀 栀攀渀渀攀渀⼀甀渀渀搀 最攀爀愀甀挀栀琀攀爀攀渀 匀瀀攀挀欀⼀椀猀琀ഊauch nicht boss zu essen. ਀ഊ Sauerkraut with a boiled hen and smoked bacon is also not bad to eat. ਀ഊ117. Gehackt saures Kraut ist auch nicht boss/wenns gesotten ist/ so macht ਀洀愀渀猀 愀戀 洀椀琀 猀愀甀爀攀洀 刀愀甀洀 甀渀搀 䈀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀        䌀栀漀瀀瀀攀搀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 渀漀琀 戀愀搀 眀栀攀渀 椀琀 椀猀 戀漀椀氀攀搀Ⰰ 猀漀 漀渀攀ഊprepares it with sour cream and butter. ਀ഊI know those are pretty short on detailed instructions, but they're the ਀昀椀爀猀琀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 渀漀琀椀挀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀嘀愀氀漀椀猀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:19:34 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䰀爀搀刀愀猀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: SC - Sauerkraut redaction-recipe ਀ഊvjarmstrong at aristotle.net writes: ਀㰀㰀  䌀栀漀瀀瀀攀搀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 渀漀琀 戀愀搀 眀栀攀渀 椀琀 椀猀 戀漀椀氀攀搀Ⰰ 猀漀 漀渀攀ഊ prepares it with sour cream and butter. ਀ഊ I know those are pretty short on detailed instructions, but they're the ਀ 昀椀爀猀琀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 渀漀琀椀挀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀ 嘀愀氀漀椀猀攀ഊ>> ਀ഊSeems like some detail. Thanks Let's see what I can do with the above recipe: ਀ഊsaures Kraut mit saurem Raum und Butter (Sauerkraut with Sour Cream and ਀䈀甀琀琀攀爀⤀ഊ ਀㄀ 氀戀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀Ⰰ 爀椀渀猀攀搀 眀攀氀氀 愀渀搀 搀爀愀椀渀攀搀ഊ1/2 stick butter ਀㄀ 挀甀瀀 猀漀甀爀 挀爀攀愀洀ഊ ਀倀甀琀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀渀 愀 洀攀搀椀甀洀 瀀愀渀⸀ 䄀搀搀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀⸀ 䈀爀椀渀最 琀漀 愀 戀漀椀氀⸀ 䌀漀瘀攀爀 瀀愀渀ഊwith a tight fitting lid. Reduce heat to simmer and continue cooking for 20 ਀洀椀渀猀⸀ 刀攀猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 氀椀焀甀椀搀Ⰰ 搀爀愀椀渀 欀爀愀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀刀攀琀甀爀渀 欀爀愀甀琀 琀漀 瀀愀渀⸀ 䄀搀搀 ㄀⼀㈀ 琀栀攀 爀攀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 氀椀焀甀椀搀⸀ 伀渀 氀漀眀 栀攀愀琀Ⰰ 愀搀搀 戀甀琀琀攀爀 椀渀ഊsmall chunks stirring after each addition until melted. Repeat until all the ਀戀甀琀琀攀爀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 椀渀挀漀爀瀀漀爀愀琀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 欀爀愀甀琀⸀ 䴀椀砀 猀漀甀爀 挀爀攀愀洀 椀渀琀漀 戀甀琀琀攀爀攀搀ഊkraut. Immediately remove from heat and serve. ਀ഊRas ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㈀ 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㤀㨀 㜀㨀㌀㈀ 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: LrdRas at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 匀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 爀攀搀愀挀琀椀漀渀ⴀ爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊ ਀愀氀氀椀氀礀渀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ<< Haven't you just washed out all the flavor? Wish I had some sauerkraut to ਀ 琀爀礀⸀  䤀✀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 最攀琀 猀漀洀攀 昀爀攀猀栀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 挀漀愀爀猀攀 猀愀氀琀 愀渀搀 琀爀礀ഊ making my own for the period redaction attempts.>> ਀ഊYes, and no. I felt that this dish was meant to be more subtle. Period salt ਀栀愀搀 愀氀氀 欀椀渀搀猀 漀昀 渀愀猀琀椀渀攀猀猀 椀渀 椀琀 愀渀搀 愀 瀀爀攀氀椀洀椀渀愀爀礀 爀椀渀猀椀渀最 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀ഊdone, IMO. The cabbage itself without the preserving liquid has a much milder ਀愀渀搀 猀甀戀琀氀攀爀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀⸀ഊ ਀䈀吀圀Ⰰ 䤀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀愀琀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 攀愀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 椀渀 椀琀✀猀ഊown juices. This is not bad but it is another change in very recent history. ਀唀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀 琀栀椀猀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀 栀愀猀 愀氀氀 戀甀琀 搀甀氀氀攀搀 琀栀攀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 琀愀猀琀攀 戀甀搀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀ഊnuances of flavor in rinsed kraut while accounting for the large number of ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 搀漀渀✀琀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀椀猀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 昀漀漀搀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 洀愀渀甀昀愀挀琀甀爀攀✀猀 愀氀猀漀 瀀甀琀 愀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀愀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 爀椀渀猀攀 琀栀攀椀爀ഊkraut on their labels. Almost all the early recipes that I have for using ਀欀爀愀甀琀 挀愀氀氀 昀漀爀 愀渀 椀渀椀琀椀愀氀 爀椀渀猀椀渀最⸀  䴀愀渀礀 愀氀猀漀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 愀瀀瀀氀攀猀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀ഊsweeteners to cover the sour taste. The sour cream in the recipe adds back a ਀猀洀漀漀琀栀 琀愀渀最 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 猀甀瀀攀爀戀⸀  䄀氀猀漀 愀 爀椀渀猀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀爀愀甀琀 昀愀氀氀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀ഊrange of advice given medieval recipes regarding preliminary preparation of ਀漀琀栀攀爀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 昀漀漀搀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 瀀爀攀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 椀渀 愀 猀愀氀琀 猀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀刀愀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:02:35 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀漀爀搀漀渀渀愀㈀㈀ 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Sauerkraut redaction-recipe ਀ഊallilyn at juno.com writes: ਀㸀  䠀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 礀漀甀 樀甀猀琀 眀愀猀栀攀搀 漀甀琀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀㼀  圀椀猀栀 䤀 栀愀搀 猀漀洀攀 猀愀甀爀欀爀愀甀琀 琀漀ഊ> try. I'll have to get some fresh cabbage and some coarse salt and try ਀㸀  洀愀欀椀渀最 洀礀 漀眀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀搀愀挀琀椀漀渀 愀琀琀攀洀瀀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀猀 眀椀琀栀 猀愀氀琀 挀甀爀攀搀 栀愀洀猀Ⰰ 眀愀猀栀椀渀最 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀氀琀 椀猀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀 椀昀 栀漀洀攀洀愀搀攀 欀爀愀甀琀ഊis to be edible to most palates. ਀ഊMordonna DuBois ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀  㠀㨀㐀㜀㨀㐀㠀 ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Karen ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 匀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 伀伀倀ഊ ਀㸀愀氀氀椀氀礀渀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>> Haven't you just washed out all the flavor? Wish I had some saurkraut to ਀㸀㸀  琀爀礀⸀  䤀✀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 最攀琀 猀漀洀攀 昀爀攀猀栀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 挀漀愀爀猀攀 猀愀氀琀 愀渀搀 琀爀礀ഊ>> making my own for the period redaction attempts. ਀ഊ>As with salt cured hams, washing out the salt is necessary if homemade ਀㸀欀爀愀甀琀 椀猀 琀漀 戀攀 攀搀椀戀氀攀 琀漀 洀漀猀琀 瀀愀氀愀琀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䴀漀爀搀漀渀渀愀 䐀甀䈀漀椀猀ഊ ਀圀栀攀渀 眀攀 氀椀瘀攀搀 椀渀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀礀Ⰰ 愀戀漀甀琀 㠀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 䜀爀愀渀搀洀漀琀栀攀爀ഊthat adopted us told me how to make saurkraut, and she was not talking ਀愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 昀爀攀猀栀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀⸀  匀栀攀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 戀礀 爀椀渀猀椀渀最 琀漀 最攀琀 漀甀琀ഊsome of the salt, (and if you are using canned, the taste of the can ਀愀猀 眀攀氀氀⤀⸀  吀栀椀猀 搀漀攀猀 渀漀琀 渀攀最愀琀攀 愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀 愀猀 琀栀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 椀猀 渀漀琀ഊthe flavor agent, the kraut itself is sour. She would then add a ਀琀愀戀氀攀猀瀀漀漀渀 漀昀 昀氀漀甀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 琀攀愀猀瀀漀漀渀 漀昀 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 㠀 樀甀渀椀瀀攀爀 戀攀爀爀椀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀ഊhandful of caraway seeds. The kraut would slightly thicken and ਀戀甀戀戀氀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀甀最愀爀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀攀琀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 猀栀愀爀瀀 琀愀猀琀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀爀 愀渀搀ഊjuniper without really being noticed. I know this is [not] documentablly ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 樀甀猀琀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 猀栀攀 猀栀漀眀攀搀 洀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀ഊway I always do. ਀ഊMany Germans today also add white wine to it after it has been rinsed, ਀愀猀 椀琀 椀猀 椀渀攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 ⠀琀栀攀爀攀⤀ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 愀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 椀琀⸀  吀栀椀猀 愀搀搀猀 愀ഊdifferent dimension to the flavor that I really liked. ਀ഊTyrca ਀㴀㴀ഊLady Tyrca Ivarsdottir ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 伀挀琀 ㈀    ㄀㔀㨀㈀㐀㨀㐀㜀 ⴀ 㘀   ⠀䴀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: grasse at mscd.edu (Martina Grasse) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀䔀 猀漀甀爀 欀爀愀甀琀 ⠀挀漀漀欀猀 ㈀㜀㄀㘀⤀ഊ ਀䈀攀愀爀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>If you are adhering to strict historical accuracy, I don't think you can ਀㸀琀爀甀氀礀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 漀爀 瀀椀爀漀最椀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 戀漀琀栀 愀爀攀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 ∀瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀∀ഊ>I've used similar undocumentable dishes for feasts where I wasn't trying for ਀㸀栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀爀爀礀 䈀攀愀爀Ⰰ 䤀 搀椀猀愀最爀攀攀ഊ ਀刀甀洀瀀漀氀琀 ⴀ ㄀㔀㠀㄀ 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 ⠀愀爀攀 礀漀甀 猀椀挀欀 漀昀 甀猀 礀攀琀 㬀ⴀ⤀ 搀漀攀猀 氀椀猀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 甀猀椀渀最 ഊ'Saures Kraut' (would quote, but he is home and I'm at work), but not being a ਀挀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀 栀攀 最椀瘀攀猀 渀漀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 昀漀爀 洀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 欀爀愀甀琀 ⠀漀渀攀 椀猀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 ഊcream (or sour cream.. dont recall). (and no, it is not just cabbage because ਀栀攀 栀愀猀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 樀甀猀琀 䬀爀愀甀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䜀眀攀渀 䌀愀琀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:35:50 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䰀爀搀刀愀猀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: SC - Sauer Kraut mit saurem Raum und Butter-recipe ਀ഊjenne at mail.browser.net writes: ਀㸀 伀漀栀 漀漀栀 漀漀栀 挀愀渀 礀漀甀 焀甀漀琀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀漀渀猀㼀 吀栀椀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 最爀攀愀琀ഊ> resource for E. Europe... (no, I'm not sick of Rumpolt yet!) ਀㸀 ⴀⴀ ഊ> Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, ਀ഊThis was served at the Silver Rhyll Harvest Feast that I cooked a couple of ਀礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀⸀ 䜀漀漀搀 猀琀甀昀昀⸀ 㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀匀愀甀攀爀 䬀爀愀甀琀 洀椀琀 猀愀甀爀攀洀 刀愀甀洀 甀渀搀 䈀甀琀琀攀爀ഊSauerkraut with Sour Cream and Butter ਀⠀昀爀漀洀 攀椀渀 一攀眀 䬀漀挀栀戀漀挀欀⸀ 䴀愀砀 刀甀洀瀀漀氀琀⸀ ㄀㔀㠀㄀ 䌀䔀⤀ഊ(Translation by Veloise Armstrong) ਀刀攀搀愀挀琀椀漀渀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 挀 ㈀    䰀⸀ 䨀⸀ 匀瀀攀渀挀攀爀Ⰰ 䨀爀⸀ ഊ ਀㄀㄀㜀⸀ 䜀攀栀愀挀欀琀 猀愀甀爀攀猀 䬀爀愀甀琀 椀猀琀 愀甀挀栀 渀椀挀栀琀 戀漀猀猀⼀ 眀攀渀渀猀 最攀猀漀琀琀攀渀⼀ 椀猀琀⼀ 猀漀 渀愀挀栀琀 ഊmans ab mit saurem Raum und Butter. ਀ഊ117. Chopped sauerkraut is not bad when it is boiled, so one prepares it with ਀猀漀甀爀 挀爀攀愀洀 愀渀搀 戀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀㄀ 䰀䈀 匀愀甀爀欀爀愀甀琀ഊ1/2 stick Butter ਀㄀⼀㈀ 挀瀀⸀ 匀漀甀爀 䌀爀攀愀洀ഊ ਀倀甀琀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀渀琀漀 愀 洀攀搀椀甀洀 瀀愀渀⸀ 䈀愀爀攀氀礀 挀漀瘀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 䈀漀椀氀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀攀渀搀攀爀⸀ ഊDrain. Stir in butter and sour cream. Serve. ਀ഊRas ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀刀漀戀椀渀 䌀愀爀爀漀氀氀ⴀ䴀愀渀渀∀ 㰀爀挀洀愀渀渀㐀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 䴀愀礀 ㈀  ㌀ ㄀㠀㨀㔀㠀㨀㔀㠀 ⴀ 㐀  ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] 16th c German Recipes Help ਀ഊOn 14 May 2003, at 10:54, lilinah at earthlink.net wrote: ਀㸀 䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 椀 栀愀瘀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 漀渀ⴀ氀椀渀攀 椀 洀愀搀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 昀漀爀ഊ> the Province of the Mists Boar Hunt in 2001: ਀㸀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀椀琀挀栀⸀搀爀愀欀⸀渀攀琀⼀氀椀氀椀渀愀栀⼀㈀  ㄀䴀攀渀甀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ[snip] ਀㸀 刀䔀䰀䤀匀䠀䔀匀ഊ> - Red Cabbage marinated in red wine vinegar, honey, caraway, anise, ਀㸀 瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀 ⴀ 䔀椀渀 䈀甀挀栀 瘀漀渀 䜀甀琀攀爀 匀瀀攀椀猀攀ഊ[snip] ਀ഊI made the red cabbage for Mudthaw dayboard, using your redaction. It ਀圀愀猀 瘀攀爀礀 琀愀猀琀礀⸀ഊ ਀䈀爀椀最栀椀搀 渀椀 䌀栀椀愀爀愀椀渀 ⨀⨀⨀ 洀欀愀 刀漀戀椀渀 䌀愀爀爀漀氀氀ⴀ䴀愀渀渀ഊBarony of Settmour Swamp, East Kingdom ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀 ㄀㄀㨀㌀㈀㨀㐀㐀 ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Sandra J. ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 猀漀甀爀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 ⴀ 最攀爀洀愀渀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀ഊI am looking for a period German recipe for sourcraut. ਀䤀✀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀ഊsaurkraut (saures Kraut) in Ein New Kochbuch and the ਀倀爀攀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 䌀愀戀戀愀最攀 ⠀䔀礀渀渀最攀洀愀挀栀琀 䌀爀愀甀琀琀⤀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 䔀椀渀ഊKochbuch aus dem Archiv des Deutschen Ordens, but not ਀愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀猀 琀栀攀 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀ഊmethod to make specifically "sour cabbage". ਀ഊAny help would be appreciated. I feel like I'm ਀漀瘀攀爀氀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀琀 漀爀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 猀椀氀氀礀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀愀琀⸀ ⨀猀椀最栀⨀ഊ ਀䬀椀渀搀 刀攀最愀爀搀猀ⰀഊClara von Ulm ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀 ㄀㜀㨀㐀㐀㨀㐀㈀ ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Huette von Ahrens ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 猀漀甀爀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 ⴀ 最攀爀洀愀渀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊThe earliest mention of Sauerkraut is from 1607 in the book "Le ਀吀爀攀猀漀爀 搀椀 匀愀渀琀椀∀ 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 椀渀ഊ1607, which describes it as being German. There are pickled cabbage ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 最漀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 刀漀洀愀渀 琀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀渀✀琀 焀甀椀琀攀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀愀礀 琀栀愀琀 匀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 氀愀琀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀 樀甀猀琀  ഊhaven't found the recipes yet. ਀ഊHuette ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀  ㌀㨀㄀ 㨀㈀㔀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "otsisto" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 猀漀甀爀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 ⴀ 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊTo: "Cooks within the SCA" ਀ഊI was told once and never got docs on it. That an English captain in the ਀氀愀琀攀 ㄀㔀  猀Ⰰ 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀猀 愀渀 漀戀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀椀挀 渀愀琀椀漀渀猀✀ 猀愀椀氀漀爀猀 搀椀搀ഊnot seem to suffer like English sailors of scurvy. This was attributed to ਀琀栀攀 挀漀渀猀甀洀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瀀椀挀欀氀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀 漀爀搀攀爀 琀漀 最攀琀 栀椀猀 挀爀攀眀 琀漀 攀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀椀挀欀氀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀Ⰰ 栀攀 栀愀搀 愀 戀愀爀爀攀氀 戀爀漀甀最栀琀ഊon board and had it labeled for officers only. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀  㤀㨀㈀㌀㨀 㠀 ⬀㄀㈀  ഊFrom: Adele de Maisieres ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 猀漀甀爀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 ⴀ 最攀爀洀愀渀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊSandra J. wrote: ਀㸀 䤀 愀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀 猀漀甀爀挀爀愀甀琀⸀ഊ> I've found a couple of recipes that reference ਀㸀 猀愀甀爀欀爀愀甀琀 ⠀猀愀甀爀攀猀 䬀爀愀甀琀⤀ 椀渀 䔀椀渀 一攀眀 䬀漀挀栀戀甀挀栀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀ഊ> Preserved Cabbage (Eynngemacht Crautt), from Ein ਀㸀 䬀漀挀栀戀甀挀栀 愀甀猀 搀攀洀 䄀爀挀栀椀瘀 搀攀猀 䐀攀甀琀猀挀栀攀渀 伀爀搀攀渀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀ഊ> actually anything that describes the appropriate ਀㸀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀愀氀氀礀 ∀猀漀甀爀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀∀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䄀渀礀 栀攀氀瀀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀攀搀⸀ 䤀 昀攀攀氀 氀椀欀攀 䤀✀洀ഊ> overlooking it or something silly like that. *sigh* ਀ഊOK, there's absolutely nothing mystical about making salted, preserved ਀瘀攀最攀琀愀戀氀攀猀 氀椀欀攀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 樀甀猀琀 猀栀爀攀搀搀攀搀 瘀攀最攀琀愀戀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀愀氀琀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 甀猀攀 漀渀氀礀 渀漀渀ⴀ爀攀愀挀琀椀瘀攀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 甀琀攀渀猀椀氀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀⸀ഊ ਀匀栀爀攀搀 㔀氀戀猀 漀昀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 昀椀渀攀氀礀⸀ ⠀琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 漀渀攀 洀攀搀椀甀洀ⴀ猀椀稀攀搀 眀栀椀琀攀ഊcabbage) Make the slices about 2mm thick. ਀䰀愀礀攀爀 椀琀 椀渀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 挀爀漀挀欀 漀爀 猀琀漀渀攀 樀愀爀 眀椀琀栀 ㄀⼀㐀挀 猀愀氀琀⸀  ⠀瀀爀攀昀攀爀愀戀氀礀ഊsomething tallish and narrowish-- a large preserving jar, tupperware ਀挀漀渀琀愀椀渀攀爀Ⰰ 挀攀爀愀洀椀挀 挀漀漀欀椀攀 樀愀爀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䤀䴀倀伀刀吀䄀一吀㨀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 搀漀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀攀 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀ഊmust increase or decrease the salt so that the proportions are the same. ਀䌀漀瘀攀爀 椀琀 氀椀最栀琀氀礀 愀渀搀 氀攀愀瘀攀 椀琀 昀漀爀 愀 昀攀眀 栀漀甀爀猀ⴀⴀ 琀栀攀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 眀椀氀氀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀ഊquite a bit of liquid. ਀ഊCover and weight the cabbage in such a way that it's all immersed in the ਀戀爀椀渀攀 愀渀搀 瀀爀漀琀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀 愀椀爀⸀  䤀✀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 琀栀椀猀 戀礀 瀀甀琀琀椀渀最 愀ഊplastic bag of cold water on top of the cabbage, but also by the simpler ਀洀攀琀栀漀搀 漀昀 瀀甀琀琀椀渀最 愀 眀攀氀氀ⴀ昀椀琀琀攀搀 眀攀椀最栀琀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 愀渀搀ഊcovering the crock not-too-tightly. Now, leave the whole thing to ਀昀攀爀洀攀渀琀 愀琀 爀漀漀洀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 昀漀爀 ㈀ⴀ㘀 眀攀攀欀猀Ⰰ 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 栀漀眀 猀漀甀爀 礀漀甀ഊlike it. Then keep refrigerated until it's all eaten. ਀ഊI served this at a feast a while ago, with roast beef and freshly-baked ਀爀礀攀 戀爀攀愀搀⸀ 䤀琀 眀愀猀 瘀攀爀礀 眀攀氀氀 爀攀挀攀椀瘀攀搀 愀渀搀 渀攀愀爀氀礀 愀氀氀 漀昀 椀琀 最漀琀 攀愀琀攀渀⸀ഊ-- ਀䄀搀攀氀攀 搀攀 䴀愀椀猀椀攀爀攀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:34:44 +1200 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䄀搀攀氀攀 搀攀 䴀愀椀猀椀攀爀攀猀 㰀氀愀搀礀愀搀攀氀攀 愀琀 瀀愀爀愀搀椀猀攀⸀渀攀琀⸀渀稀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] sour cabbage - german recipe ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀匀愀渀搀爀愀 䨀⸀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I am looking for a period German recipe for sourcraut. ਀㸀 䤀✀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀ഊ> saurkraut (saures Kraut) in Ein New Kochbuch and the ਀㸀 倀爀攀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 䌀愀戀戀愀最攀 ⠀䔀礀渀渀最攀洀愀挀栀琀 䌀爀愀甀琀琀⤀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 䔀椀渀ഊ> Kochbuch aus dem Archiv des Deutschen Ordens, but not ਀㸀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀猀 琀栀攀 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀ഊ> method to make specifically "sour cabbage". ਀ഊAnd the remark I meant to make earlier-- I haven't found a strictly ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀Ⰰ 攀椀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 眀椀氀氀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 氀漀琀猀ഊof period references to sauerkraut, and some to the general method of ਀瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 ⠀眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 爀漀甀最栀氀礀㨀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 椀猀 猀栀爀攀搀搀攀搀 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 椀渀 戀愀爀爀攀氀猀ഊwith salt), but as far as I can tell, this is something made on farms, ਀渀漀琀 椀渀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀⸀ 䄀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀 挀漀漀欀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀ഊbought it by the barrel, rather than made it himself. ਀ⴀⴀ  ഊAdele de Maisieres ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀  㔀㨀㌀㤀㨀   ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Louise Smithson ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䄀渀 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀㼀 眀愀猀 猀漀甀爀ഊ cabbage - german recipe ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀㸀㸀㸀ഊSo I would say that Sauerkraut is probably late period, but we just ਀栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀ഊyet. Huette ਀㰀㰀㰀ഊ ਀䤀 昀椀最甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 眀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀椀挀愀琀攀搀⸀ 䤀  ഊcame across this recipe in Scappi some time ago. It refers to ਀挀愀戀戀愀最攀 椀渀 猀愀氀琀Ⰰ 瀀愀挀欀攀搀 椀渀 眀漀漀搀攀渀 戀愀爀爀攀氀猀 漀爀 挀攀爀愀洀椀挀 瘀愀猀攀猀⸀ 䤀琀 挀漀甀氀搀  ഊeasily be another salted cabbage or it could indeed be sauerkraut. ਀䄀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 漀渀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 愀爀最甀攀 琀栀愀琀 樀甀猀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀渀礀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 猀琀漀爀攀搀 椀渀 愀  ഊsalty liquid will become sauerkraut anyway. ਀ഊHelewyse ਀ഊPer far minestra di cauli cappucci stati in sale. Cap CXCVII ਀ഊSon portati in Trevisi & in Venetia di terra Todesca cauli cappucci ਀猀愀氀愀琀椀 挀漀渀 猀愀氀椀洀漀爀愀 椀渀 瘀愀猀椀 搀椀 琀攀爀爀愀 漀 搀椀 氀攀最渀漀Ⰰ 氀椀 焀甀愀氀椀 挀愀瘀愀琀椀 挀栀攀  ഊson dalla salimora si lavano in più acque, & si fanno stare in molle, ਀☀ 猀椀 昀愀渀渀漀 瀀攀爀氀攀猀猀愀爀攀 挀漀渀 愀挀焀甀愀 猀攀洀瀀氀椀挀攀㬀 ☀ 挀愀瘀椀渀漀猀椀 搀✀攀猀猀愀 愀挀焀甀愀Ⰰ ☀  ഊrinfreschinosi con altre acque, & faccianosi cuocere in brodo di ਀挀愀爀渀攀 搀椀 瘀愀挀挀椀渀愀 最爀愀猀猀愀Ⰰ 猀瀀椀最漀氀椀 搀✀愀最氀椀愀 愀洀洀愀挀挀愀琀椀Ⰰ ☀ 挀漀琀琀椀 挀栀攀 猀漀渀漀  ഊsi cavano ascuitti, & si copreno di agliata. Si possono ancho ਀猀漀昀昀爀椀最攀爀攀 挀漀渀 氀漀 猀琀爀甀琀琀漀 氀椀焀甀攀昀愀琀琀漀Ⰰ ☀ 愀最氀椀漀Ⰰ ☀ 挀椀瀀漀氀氀攀琀琀攀 戀愀琀琀甀琀攀  ഊdapoi che saranno cotti nel brodo, & si serveno con pepe, & fior di ਀昀椀渀漀挀挀栀椀漀 猀漀瀀爀愀⸀ഊ ਀吀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀 搀椀猀栀 漀昀 栀攀愀搀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 欀攀瀀琀 椀渀 猀愀氀琀⸀ 䌀栀愀瀀琀攀爀 ㄀㤀㜀ഊ ਀䤀渀琀漀 吀爀攀瘀椀猀椀 愀渀搀 嘀攀渀椀挀攀 椀猀 挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀礀 猀愀氀琀攀搀 栀攀愀搀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀  ഊwith salted liquid in vessels of ceramic or of wood. The which is ਀琀愀欀攀渀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀愀氀琀攀搀 氀椀焀甀椀搀 愀渀搀 眀愀猀栀攀搀 椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 猀漀愀欀攀搀 椀渀  ഊwater and parboiled in simple water. One takes it from this water and ਀爀攀昀爀攀猀栀攀猀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 洀漀爀攀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 椀琀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 椀渀 昀愀琀琀礀 戀攀攀昀 戀爀漀琀栀  ഊwith chopped garlic cloves, and when it is cooked one takes it out ਀搀爀礀 ⠀猀琀爀愀椀渀猀 椀琀⤀ 愀渀搀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 最愀爀氀椀挀 猀愀甀挀攀⸀ 伀渀攀 挀愀渀 愀氀猀漀 昀爀礀 椀琀  ഊin melted lard with garlic and chopped onions after it has been ਀挀漀漀欀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 戀爀漀琀栀 愀渀搀 漀渀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀猀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀 愀渀搀 最爀漀甀渀搀 昀攀渀渀攀氀  ഊabove. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀 ㄀ 㨀㌀㌀㨀㔀㄀ ⴀ 㐀  ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 匀漀甀爀 䌀愀戀戀愀最攀 ⴀⴀ 渀漀琀攀猀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊSour Cabbage Notes- ਀ഊWent looking for references to sauerkraut last night. This was before ਀爀攀愀搀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 愀洀✀猀 瀀漀猀琀猀Ⰰ 猀漀 昀漀爀最椀瘀攀 洀攀 昀漀爀 戀攀椀渀最 戀攀栀椀渀搀 椀渀 琀栀漀猀攀⸀ഊIn Regional Cuisines of Medieval Europe: A Book of Essays. ਀䤀渀 琀栀椀猀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 攀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀攀氀椀琀琀愀 圀攀椀猀猀 䄀搀愀洀猀漀渀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀渀ഊGermany written by Adamson, I found these mentions- ਀ഊ<>In talking about 16th century food in Germany, she writes "Lower class ਀昀漀漀搀猀 愀挀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 琀漀 刀礀昀昀 愀爀攀 漀愀琀猀Ⰰ 挀愀戀戀愀最攀Ⰰ 挀栀攀猀琀渀甀琀猀Ⰰ 戀攀愀渀猀Ⰰ 洀椀氀氀攀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀甀爀渀椀瀀猀ഊ Cabbage, Ryff informs the reader, is eaten daily all over ਀䜀攀爀洀愀渀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀渀 䈀愀瘀愀爀椀愀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀猀 攀愀琀攀渀 琀栀爀攀攀 琀漀 昀漀甀爀 琀椀洀攀猀 愀 搀愀礀 愀猀ഊa meal. Page 163 ਀ഊRyff's book is Guualterus H. Rivius [Walter Ryff]. Kurtze aber vast ਀攀椀最攀渀琀氀椀挀栀攀 渀甀琀稀氀椀挀栀攀 瘀渀搀 椀渀 瀀昀氀攀最甀渀最ഊ it dates from 1549 ਀ഊ<>Adamson later on in her discussion of Daz Buch von Gutter Spise ਀洀攀渀琀椀漀渀猀 琀栀愀琀 ∀吀眀漀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 攀愀挀栀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀⼀猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 ⠀爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 㐀㠀Ⰰഊ84). Page 169 ਀ഊIf one checks the edition of Daz Buch von Gutter Spise that Adamson ਀攀搀椀琀攀搀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 眀椀氀氀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 㐀㠀 椀猀 愀 猀愀甀挀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 琀栀愀琀 攀渀搀猀 ∀愀渀搀ഊsome sauerkraut or turnips, anything you want." ਀ഊ<>Apparently in the 1460 cookbook written by von Maister Hans or Meister ਀䠀愀渀猀 ⠀昀愀挀猀椀洀椀氀攀 椀猀 琀椀琀氀攀搀 䴀愀椀猀琀攀爀 䠀愀渀渀猀攀渀 搀攀猀 瘀漀渀 圀椀爀琀攀渀戀甀爀最 欀漀挀栀⤀ 琀栀攀爀攀ഊis a mention made to cabbage seeds being saved from cabbage worms. ਀䴀攀椀猀琀攀爀 䠀愀渀猀 渀漀琀攀搀 ∀䤀 猀攀挀爀攀琀氀礀 渀漀琀椀挀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 攀愀琀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀Ⰰഊwhile by nature I prefer gruel ਀∀ 倀愀最攀 ㄀㜀㘀 㰀㸀ഊ ਀䰀愀猀琀氀礀 䄀搀愀洀猀漀渀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 ㄀㐀㠀㔀 䬀甀挀栀攀渀洀攀礀猀琀攀爀攀礀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀猀 猀漀洀攀ഊmaterial in the sauces section. "The focus in chapter 4 is on sauces, ਀攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 最愀爀氀椀挀 猀愀甀挀攀猀Ⰰ 洀甀猀琀愀爀搀Ⰰ 攀氀攀挀琀甀愀爀椀攀猀Ⰰ 挀愀戀戀愀最攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊsauerkraut." Page 183 ਀ഊPerhaps someone could check a copy of the Kuchenmeysterey and see what ਀椀猀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀⸀ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 挀漀瀀礀 愀琀 栀愀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀⸀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀渀愀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:32:27 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䨀攀昀昀 䜀攀搀渀攀礀∀ 㰀最攀搀渀攀礀㄀ 愀琀 椀挀漀渀渀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: RE: [Sca-cooks] sour cabbage - German recipe ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀 䤀 眀愀猀 琀漀氀搀 漀渀挀攀 愀渀搀 渀攀瘀攀爀 最漀琀 搀漀挀猀 漀渀 椀琀⸀ 吀栀愀琀 愀渀ഊ> English captain in the late 1500s, mentions an ਀㸀 漀戀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀椀挀 渀愀琀椀漀渀猀✀ 猀愀椀氀漀爀猀 搀椀搀ഊ> not seem to suffer like English sailors of scurvy. ਀㸀 吀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 愀琀琀爀椀戀甀琀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀猀甀洀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瀀椀挀欀氀攀搀ഊ> cabbage. In order to get his crew to eat the pickled ਀㸀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀Ⰰ 栀攀 栀愀搀 愀 戀愀爀爀攀氀 戀爀漀甀最栀琀 漀渀 戀漀愀爀搀 愀渀搀 栀愀搀 椀琀ഊ> labeled for officers only. ਀ഊSounds up my alley... ਀䤀✀氀氀 猀攀攀 眀栀愀琀 䤀 挀愀渀 昀椀渀搀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䈀甀琀 椀琀 开猀漀甀渀搀猀开 愀瀀漀挀栀爀礀瀀栀愀氀⸀ 匀栀椀瀀✀猀 猀琀漀爀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀氀礀ഊclosely watched and apportioned out by stewards. ਀匀琀甀昀昀 氀椀猀琀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 挀愀瀀琀愀椀渀✀猀 琀愀戀氀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀 最漀 椀渀琀漀ഊthe general "messe" in the way described. ਀吀栀攀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 眀漀甀氀搀 攀愀琀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 爀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 琀栀攀椀爀ഊboredom of the beer biscuit and salt cod/salt beef diet. ਀⸀⸀⸀ 椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 攀猀欀椀洀漀 搀漀最Ⰰ 瀀攀渀最甀椀渀Ⰰ 洀愀渀愀琀攀攀Ⰰ 搀漀氀瀀栀椀渀Ⰰ 挀漀爀渀Ⰰഊgrass, whatever the can catch or gather that might be ਀挀漀渀挀椀攀瘀愀戀氀礀 漀爀 攀瘀攀渀 爀攀洀漀琀攀氀礀 攀搀椀戀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 瀀甀琀 愀猀栀漀爀攀 椀渀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀礀Ⰰ 愀昀琀攀爀 洀漀渀琀栀猀ഊof eating weevily bisuit, maggoty salt beef and cod, ਀搀爀椀渀欀椀渀最 猀挀甀洀洀礀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀洀攀氀氀椀渀最 琀栀攀 最愀猀猀攀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊissued from the festering bilges every night as they try ਀琀漀 猀氀攀攀瀀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 愀 昀爀攀猀栀 挀爀漀挀欀 漀昀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀渀 愀 搀爀礀ഊGerman inn would seem like cheese and wine on a bed ਀漀昀 爀漀猀攀 瀀攀琀愀氀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 猀攀爀椀漀甀猀氀礀 搀漀甀戀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 戀攀 挀漀愀砀攀搀 椀渀琀漀ഊeating any any sort of fresh food. ਀ഊ ਀伀渀 猀挀甀爀瘀礀㨀ഊI know that in the Elizabethan period the cause and ਀挀甀爀攀 漀昀 猀挀甀爀瘀礀 眀愀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 眀椀搀攀氀礀 甀渀欀渀漀眀渀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 洀愀樀漀爀 挀漀洀瀀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀 戀攀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀 漀昀ഊScurvy as a vitamin C deficiency rarely was experienced. ਀吀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 匀挀甀爀瘀礀 搀椀愀最渀漀猀椀猀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀搀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀猀ഊof symptoms associated with other vitamin deficinecies, ਀猀甀挀栀 愀猀 ∀眀攀琀∀ 戀攀爀椀戀攀爀椀 ⠀䄀 瘀椀琀愀洀椀渀 䈀㄀ 搀攀昀椀挀椀攀渀挀礀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀ഊassociated with the high alcohol content of the sailor's ਀搀椀攀琀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀攀氀氀愀最爀愀⸀ഊThere were lots of theories as to causation, yes, but the ਀渀漀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 愀 瀀甀爀攀氀礀 搀椀攀琀愀爀礀 搀攀昀椀挀椀攀渀挀礀 挀愀甀猀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊcondition was not among them. ਀吀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 甀猀甀愀氀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀栀攀漀爀礀 戀攀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀礀 愀琀洀漀猀瀀栀攀爀攀ഊof the ocean was bad for you, the very ocean was inimical ਀琀漀 渀漀渀 漀挀攀愀渀 戀愀猀攀搀 氀椀昀攀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 挀漀洀洀漀渀氀礀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 ∀洀愀氀愀爀椀愀∀ഊ(bad air "mal+aria"). ਀ഊOnce you got back on the wholesome land, the very vapors ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 最漀漀搀 攀愀爀琀栀 挀甀爀攀搀 礀漀甀⸀ 䤀琀 眀愀猀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 眀攀氀氀 攀猀琀愀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀ഊthat some foods and medicines would help to deter the ਀挀漀渀搀椀琀椀漀渀 愀琀 猀攀愀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀栀礀 琀栀攀礀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 眀愀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀✀猀 最甀攀猀猀Ⰰഊand the exact foods and medicines recommended varied from ਀瀀氀愀挀攀 琀漀 瀀氀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 攀爀愀 琀漀 攀爀愀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀愀猀 欀渀漀眀渀 琀栀愀琀 猀漀洀攀 昀爀甀椀琀猀 搀攀琀攀爀爀攀搀 猀挀甀爀瘀礀Ⰰഊbut it was thought that the acidic nature of the foods was ਀琀栀攀 挀甀爀愀琀椀瘀攀 愀最攀渀挀礀Ⰰ 猀漀 椀渀 栀椀猀 ㄀㔀㘀㔀 瘀漀礀愀最攀Ⰰ 匀椀爀 䨀漀栀渀 䠀愀眀欀椀渀猀ഊshipped, and distributed, his favorite remedy for scurvy, ਀眀栀椀挀栀 眀愀猀 愀 洀椀砀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 猀甀氀昀甀爀椀挀 愀挀椀搀Ⰰ 猀甀最愀爀 愀渀搀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ ⠀愀渀搀ഊyou thought Coke was bad for the teeth!) ਀ഊSource: ਀䬀攀攀瘀椀氀Ⰰ 䨀⸀ 䨀⸀Ⰰ  ∀䴀攀搀椀挀椀渀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 一愀瘀礀㨀 ㄀㈀  ⴀ㄀㤀  㨀 嘀漀氀 ㄀ഊ1200-1649", E. & S. Livingstone, Edinburgh, 1957 ਀ഊCapt Elias ਀䐀爀愀最漀渀猀栀椀瀀 䠀愀瘀攀渀Ⰰ 䔀愀猀琀ഊ(Stratford, CT, USA) ਀䄀瀀瀀爀攀渀琀椀挀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䠀漀甀猀攀 漀昀 匀椀氀瘀攀爀眀椀渀最ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:17:13 -0700 (PDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䠀甀攀琀琀攀 瘀漀渀 䄀栀爀攀渀猀 㰀愀栀爀攀渀猀栀愀瘀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: RE: [Sca-cooks] sour cabbage - German recipe ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀 䬀爀愀甀琀猀愀氀愀琀 ⠀挀漀氀攀猀氀愀眀⤀ 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀  䤀渀 栀椀猀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀 搀椀愀爀椀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 ㄀㔀㠀 Ⰰ 䴀椀挀栀攀氀 搀攀 䴀漀渀琀愀椀最渀攀 欀攀瀀琀 愀 氀椀猀琀 漀昀 ∀搀椀猀栀攀猀 甀渀昀愀洀椀氀椀愀爀 琀漀 洀攀Ⰰ∀ 椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 栀攀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀搀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 昀甀爀琀栀攀爀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 ∀挀愀戀戀愀最攀 猀愀氀愀搀猀∀ 琀栀愀琀 眀攀爀攀 猀攀琀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 栀椀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀眀愀戀椀愀渀 琀漀眀渀 漀昀 䰀椀渀搀愀甀 漀渀 䰀愀欀攀 䌀漀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀⸀  一漀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀氀愀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀 洀愀欀攀 礀漀甀爀 挀漀氀攀猀氀愀眀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 洀愀礀漀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 瀀漀琀攀渀琀椀愀氀氀礀 瀀爀攀ⴀ㄀㘀  ⸀ഊ ਀䠀甀攀琀琀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:48:34 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀琀攀昀愀渀 氀椀 刀漀甀猀 㰀匀琀攀昀愀渀氀椀刀漀甀猀 愀琀 愀甀猀琀椀渀⸀爀爀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] sauerkraut ਀吀漀㨀 匀䌀䄀ⴀ䌀漀漀欀猀 洀愀椀氀氀椀猀琀 匀䌀䄀ⴀ䌀漀漀欀猀 㰀匀䌀䄀ⴀ䌀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䄀搀攀氀攀 搀攀 䴀愀椀猀椀攀爀攀猀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀攀搀㨀ഊ> Louise Smithson wrote: ਀㸀㸀 䤀 昀椀最甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 眀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀椀挀愀琀攀搀⸀ഊ>> I came across this recipe in Scappi some time ago. It refers to ਀㸀㸀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 椀渀 猀愀氀琀Ⰰ 瀀愀挀欀攀搀 椀渀 眀漀漀搀攀渀 戀愀爀爀攀氀猀 漀爀 挀攀爀愀洀椀挀 瘀愀猀攀猀⸀ 䤀琀ഊ>> could easily be another salted cabbage or it could indeed be ਀㸀㸀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀  䄀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 漀渀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 愀爀最甀攀 琀栀愀琀 樀甀猀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀渀礀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀ഊ>> stored in a salty liquid will become sauerkraut anyway. ਀㸀ഊ> I believe you have hit the nail on the head, here. If you mix salt ਀㸀 愀渀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀 爀愀琀椀漀Ⰰ 椀琀 开眀椀氀氀开 琀甀爀渀 椀渀琀漀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀䈀甀琀 䤀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 琀栀愀琀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 眀愀猀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 猀愀氀琀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀⸀ഊIsn't there some kind of fermentation going on? Isn't that where the ਀猀漀甀爀 琀愀猀琀攀 挀漀洀攀猀 昀爀漀洀㼀 䤀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 挀愀猀攀Ⰰ 甀渀氀攀猀猀 琀栀攀 礀攀愀猀琀猀⼀戀愀挀琀攀爀椀愀⼀ഊwhatever are already there in/on the cabbage, there is no guarantee ਀琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀 琀甀爀渀 椀渀琀漀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀Ⰰ 甀渀氀攀猀猀 琀栀攀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 戀攀愀猀琀椀攀猀 愀爀攀ഊthere in the air, the temperature is right etc. ਀ഊIf you salt the cabbage and then stick it in the refrigerator, you ਀最攀琀 猀愀氀琀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀Ⰰ 爀椀最栀琀㼀 一漀琀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀匀琀攀昀愀渀ഊ-------- ਀吀䠀䰀漀爀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀 氀椀 刀漀甀猀    䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 䈀爀礀渀 䜀眀氀愀搀    䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 漀昀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀ഊ Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㔀 匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀 ㈀㈀㨀㄀㐀㨀㌀  ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Pat ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊYes, if you salt the cabbage and then stick it in the fridge, it ਀眀漀渀✀琀 琀甀爀渀 椀渀琀漀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀ഊHowever, do you remember me talking all those years ago about Auntie ਀刀甀琀栀㼀  䴀礀 攀砀✀猀 昀漀猀琀攀爀 洀漀琀栀攀爀 眀栀漀 琀愀甀最栀琀 洀攀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀 愀戀漀甀琀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最㼀ഊWell, Auntie Ruth made several batches of Sauerkraut every year for ਀洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 猀攀瘀攀渀琀礀 礀攀愀爀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 渀攀瘀攀爀 愀搀搀攀搀 礀攀愀猀琀⸀  匀栀攀✀搀 樀甀猀琀 猀栀爀攀搀 琀栀攀  ഊcabbage, layer it with salt in a stoneware churn, stick it in the ਀洀攀愀琀栀漀甀猀攀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀 愀渀搀 眀愀椀琀 愀 眀攀攀欀 漀爀 猀漀⸀  一漀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 椀琀⸀  ✀䌀漀甀爀猀攀  ഊthat meathouse had been standing for nearly a century and a half (it ਀眀愀猀 琀栀攀 ∀渀攀眀∀ 漀渀攀Ⰰ 戀甀椀氀琀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 漀渀攀 戀甀爀渀攀搀Ⰰ⤀ 愀渀搀 戀攀攀渀 甀猀攀搀  ഊto store ham and 'kraut for all that time, so there were probably ਀瀀氀攀渀琀礀 漀昀 礀攀愀猀琀礀 戀攀愀猀椀攀猀 椀渀 爀攀猀椀搀攀渀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀䴀漀爀搀漀渀渀愀ഊ ਀匀琀攀昀愀渀 氀椀 刀漀甀猀 㰀匀琀攀昀愀渀氀椀刀漀甀猀 愀琀 愀甀猀琀椀渀⸀爀爀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>>> ਀  䤀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 挀愀猀攀Ⰰ 甀渀氀攀猀猀 琀栀攀 礀攀愀猀琀猀⼀戀愀挀琀攀爀椀愀⼀ഊwhatever are already there in/on the cabbage, there is no guarantee ਀琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀 琀甀爀渀 椀渀琀漀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀Ⰰ 甀渀氀攀猀猀 琀栀攀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 戀攀愀猀琀椀攀猀 愀爀攀ഊthere in the air, the temperature is right etc. ਀ഊIf you salt the cabbage and then stick it in the refrigerator, you ਀最攀琀 猀愀氀琀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀Ⰰ 爀椀最栀琀㼀 一漀琀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀匀琀攀昀愀渀ഊ<<< ਀ഊLady Anne du Bosc ਀欀渀漀眀渀 愀猀 䴀漀爀搀漀渀渀愀 琀栀攀 䌀漀漀欀ഊShire of Thorngill, Meridies ਀䴀甀渀搀愀渀攀氀礀Ⰰ 倀愀琀 䜀爀椀昀昀椀渀 漀昀 䴀椀氀氀戀爀漀漀欀Ⰰ 䄀䰀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:13:11 +1200 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䄀搀攀氀攀 搀攀 䴀愀椀猀椀攀爀攀猀 㰀氀愀搀礀愀搀攀氀攀 愀琀 瀀愀爀愀搀椀猀攀⸀渀攀琀⸀渀稀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] sauerkraut ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀匀琀攀昀愀渀 氀椀 刀漀甀猀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> But I thought that sauerkraut was more than simply salted cabbage. ਀㸀 䤀猀渀✀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 昀攀爀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 最漀椀渀最 漀渀㼀 䤀猀渀✀琀 琀栀愀琀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀ഊ> sour taste comes from? In which case, unless the yeasts/bacteria/ ਀㸀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 愀爀攀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀渀⼀漀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 渀漀 最甀愀爀愀渀琀攀攀ഊ> that it will turn into sauerkraut, unless the needed beasties are ਀㸀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 愀椀爀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 椀猀 爀椀最栀琀 攀琀挀⸀ഊ ਀夀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀 昀攀爀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀✀猀 椀渀挀爀攀搀椀戀氀礀 爀攀氀椀愀戀氀攀⸀ 夀漀甀ഊdon't need to add any sort of starter culture, and it works at a wide ਀爀愀渀最攀 漀昀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀猀 ⠀愀氀戀攀椀琀 愀琀 瘀愀爀礀椀渀最 猀瀀攀攀搀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 䤀昀 礀漀甀 猀愀氀琀 琀栀攀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 猀琀椀挀欀 椀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀漀爀Ⰰ 礀漀甀   ഊ> get salted cabbage, right? Not sauerkraut. ਀ഊI haven't tried this-- but I suspect it turns into sauerkraut ਀开攀瘀攀渀琀甀愀氀氀礀开⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 椀琀 开渀漀琀开 琀漀 戀攀挀漀洀攀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 甀瀀ഊthe ratio of salt to cabbage. ਀ⴀⴀ ഊAdele de Maisieres ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㘀 匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀 ㈀㄀㨀  㨀㌀㤀 ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Holli Sicard ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊotsisto wrote: ਀㸀 圀栀攀爀攀 搀漀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 欀爀愀甀琀 洀甀挀欀攀爀猀㼀ഊ> Lyse ਀ഊI got mine from a friend of mine. I'll ask her where she acquired ਀椀琀⸀  䤀琀 猀愀礀猀 椀琀 眀愀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀礀 戀礀 愀 挀漀洀瀀愀渀礀 渀愀洀攀搀 䜀愀爀琀漀瀀昀⸀  䤀  ഊdid find this link: ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀愀瘀椀瘀愀⸀挀愀⼀猀栀漀瀀⼀瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀⸀愀猀瀀㼀椀琀攀洀椀搀㴀㘀㔀㘀☀挀愀琀椀搀㴀㤀 ഊAn Original HARSCH Fermentation Pot (7.5L), exactly what mine says on ਀琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀⸀ഊIt says there is a picture coming soon, but the description is ਀攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 眀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀⸀ഊ"Sudkeramik Fermentation Crock - Original System Harsch Natural ਀䘀攀爀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀氀搀攀猀琀 欀渀漀眀渀 瀀爀攀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀漀渀 洀攀琀栀漀搀猀⸀  䰀愀挀琀椀挀  ഊacid bacteria ferment the vegetables and they preserve longer, have a ਀瀀氀攀愀猀愀渀琀 愀挀椀搀椀挀 琀愀猀琀攀 愀渀搀 爀椀挀栀 挀漀渀琀攀渀琀猀 漀昀 瘀椀琀愀洀椀渀猀 愀渀搀 洀椀渀攀爀愀氀猀⸀∀ഊIf you would like me to stake a few pics, let me know. ਀ഊHolli ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㘀 匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀 ㄀㜀㨀㄀㠀㨀㈀㤀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "otsisto" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀ഊTo: "Cooks within the SCA" ਀ഊI found this ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀挀愀渀渀椀渀最瀀愀渀琀爀礀⸀挀漀洀⼀猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀ⴀ挀爀漀挀欀猀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀䰀礀猀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:10:30 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀甀猀愀渀 䘀漀砀 㰀猀攀氀攀渀攀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] sauerkraut ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀 漀琀猀椀猀琀漀 㰀漀琀猀椀猀琀漀 愀琀 猀漀挀欀攀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I found this ਀㸀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀挀愀渀渀椀渀最瀀愀渀琀爀礀⸀挀漀洀⼀猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀ⴀ挀爀漀挀欀猀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ> ਀㸀 䰀礀猀攀ഊ ਀⨀猀栀攀攀猀栀⨀  吀栀攀 猀洀愀氀氀攀猀琀 漀渀 琀栀愀琀 瀀愀最攀 眀愀猀 ␀㤀㤀 昀漀爀 愀 㔀 氀椀琀攀爀 挀爀漀挀欀⸀  吀栀攀 䬀漀爀攀愀渀ഊmarket near my old house has comparable crocks for kim chee for under $20. ਀ഊThe lesson: shop the ethnic markets with the people who really make this ਀猀琀甀昀昀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀Ⰰ 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 甀瀀猀挀愀氀攀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 眀椀琀栀 甀瀀猀挀愀氀攀 瀀爀椀挀攀猀 昀漀爀ഊyuppie dilettantes. I don't want to get fooled again! ਀ഊBluntly but honestly, as ever, ਀匀攀氀攀渀攀 䌀漀氀昀漀砀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:19:02 +0200 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 嘀漀氀欀攀爀 䈀愀挀栀 㰀挀愀爀氀琀漀渀开戀愀挀栀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀搀攀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] sauerkraut ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䄀洀 匀愀洀猀琀愀最Ⰰ ㄀㜀⸀ 匀攀瀀琀攀洀戀攀爀 ㈀  㔀  㜀㨀㄀  猀挀栀爀椀攀戀 匀甀猀愀渀 䘀漀砀㨀ഊ> *sheesh* The smallest on that page was $99 for a 5 liter crock. The ਀㸀 䬀漀爀攀愀渀 洀愀爀欀攀琀 渀攀愀爀 洀礀 漀氀搀 栀漀甀猀攀 栀愀猀 挀漀洀瀀愀爀愀戀氀攀 挀爀漀挀欀猀 昀漀爀 欀椀洀 挀栀攀攀 昀漀爀ഊ> under $20. ਀㸀ഊ> The lesson: shop the ethnic markets with the people who really make this ਀㸀 猀琀甀昀昀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀Ⰰ 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 甀瀀猀挀愀氀攀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最猀 眀椀琀栀 甀瀀猀挀愀氀攀 瀀爀椀挀攀猀 昀漀爀ഊ> yuppie dilettantes. I don't want to get fooled again! ਀ഊTrue. What is even better is that you can make sauerkraut in almost any ਀挀漀渀琀愀椀渀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 眀愀琀攀爀瀀爀漀漀昀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 搀漀渀攀 椀琀 礀攀琀 ⠀䤀 氀椀瘀攀 椀渀 愀 猀洀愀氀氀ഊapartment and my neighbours already complain enough about the egg tempera ਀瀀愀椀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 爀攀猀椀渀 瘀愀爀渀椀猀栀攀猀⤀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀 愀渀搀 爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀猀 漀昀 洀椀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 椀琀ഊin crockpots, enameled cookpots, buckets, glass jars, and in one documented ਀挀愀猀攀 椀渀 愀 搀椀猀甀猀攀搀 最愀爀戀愀最攀 戀椀渀 ⠀眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀Ⰰ 渀漀琀眀椀琀栀猀琀愀渀搀椀渀最ഊthe kraut being the best of the lot). I think wooden casks are traditionally ਀爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀漀洀攀 琀栀椀猀 愀甀琀甀洀渀ഊ ਀䜀椀愀渀漀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:15:33 +1200 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䄀搀攀氀攀 搀攀 䴀愀椀猀椀攀爀攀猀 㰀氀愀搀礀愀搀攀氀攀 愀琀 瀀愀爀愀搀椀猀攀⸀渀攀琀⸀渀稀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] sauerkraut ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀倀愀琀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> Yes, if you salt the cabbage and then stick it in the fridge, it ਀㸀 眀漀渀✀琀 琀甀爀渀 椀渀琀漀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀ഊ> However, do you remember me talking all those years ago about ਀㸀 䄀甀渀琀椀攀 刀甀琀栀㼀  䴀礀 攀砀✀猀 昀漀猀琀攀爀 洀漀琀栀攀爀 眀栀漀 琀愀甀最栀琀 洀攀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀 愀戀漀甀琀  ഊ> German cooking? ਀㸀 圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 䄀甀渀琀椀攀 刀甀琀栀 洀愀搀攀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 戀愀琀挀栀攀猀 漀昀 匀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀 礀攀愀爀 昀漀爀  ഊ> more than seventy years, and never added yeast. She'd just shred ਀㸀 琀栀攀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀Ⰰ 氀愀礀攀爀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 猀愀氀琀 椀渀 愀 猀琀漀渀攀眀愀爀攀 挀栀甀爀渀Ⰰ 猀琀椀挀欀 椀琀 椀渀  ഊ> the meathouse outside and wait a week or so. Nothing to it. ਀㸀 ✀䌀漀甀爀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 洀攀愀琀栀漀甀猀攀 栀愀搀 戀攀攀渀 猀琀愀渀搀椀渀最 昀漀爀 渀攀愀爀氀礀 愀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 愀渀搀 愀  ഊ> half (it was the "new" one, built after the first one burned,) and ਀㸀 戀攀攀渀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 猀琀漀爀攀 栀愀洀 愀渀搀 ✀欀爀愀甀琀 昀漀爀 愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀  ഊ> probably plenty of yeasty beasies in residence. ਀ഊI do the same thing in my kitchen at home-- no century-and-a-half's ਀眀漀爀琀栀 漀昀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 ✀爀漀甀渀搀 栀攀爀攀⸀  䄀琀 愀渀礀 爀愀琀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 最攀琀ഊleft exposed to the air-- mine gets covered with clingfilm. ਀ⴀⴀ ഊAdele de Maisieres ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀  匀攀瀀 ㈀  㔀  㠀㨀㈀㄀㨀㄀㈀ ⴀ 㜀  ഊFrom: "Bj Jane Tremaine" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀ഊTo: "Cooks within the SCA" ਀ഊMy Grandmother keep her in a oak barrel in the root caller with a plate on ਀琀漀瀀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 戀爀椀渀攀⸀  䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 猀挀爀愀瀀椀渀最 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 洀漀氀搀 漀渀ഊtop to remove the plate to get to the kraut. Lots of penicillin in her ਀戀愀猀攀洀攀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䨀愀渀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:07:41 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 爀愀渀瘀愀椀最 愀琀 挀漀氀甀洀戀甀猀⸀爀爀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] ginormous amounts of cabbage ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㰀 䄀瀀愀爀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 爀攀洀愀椀渀猀 漀昀 瀀漀琀猀 漀昀 瀀椀挀欀氀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 戀攀椀渀最 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䜀爀攀愀琀 圀愀氀氀 漀昀 䌀栀椀渀愀 愀渀搀 攀氀猀攀眀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 䤀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀猀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 椀渀 䴀愀爀砀 刀甀洀瀀漀氀琀⸀ 㸀ഊ ਀㰀㰀 䌀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 椀猀ⴀⴀ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 椀琀 猀愀礀猀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 氀椀欀攀 ∀瀀椀最✀猀 昀漀漀琀 眀椀琀栀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 椀猀渀✀琀 戀愀搀∀⸀ 㸀㸀ഊ ਀匀漀洀攀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀 洀攀渀甀 椀琀攀洀猀 昀爀漀洀 刀甀洀瀀漀氀琀⸀ഊ ਀匀眀挀栀眀攀椀渀攀 圀椀氀搀瀀爀攀琀 最攀欀漀挀栀琀 椀洀 倀昀攀昀昀攀爀 愀甀昀昀 嘀渀最攀爀椀猀挀栀⼀ 䔀椀渀 猀愀甀爀 欀爀愀甀琀 最攀欀漀挀栀琀 洀椀琀 攀椀渀攀洀 最攀爀㼀甀挀栀攀爀琀攀渀 匀瀀攀挀欀⼀ 瘀渀搀 搀㼀爀爀攀渀 圀㼀爀猀琀攀渀⼀ 瘀渀搀 愀甀挀栀 洀椀琀 最攀爀㼀甀挀栀攀爀琀攀渀 䌀愀瀀愀甀渀攀渀 瘀渀搀 䠀㼀渀攀爀⸀ഊWild boar cooked in a Pepper sauce in the Hungarian manner/ a sauerkraut cooked with smoked baon and dried sausage/ and also with smoked capons and hens. ਀ഊEin saur Kraut gekocht/ vnd mit ge?uchtem Speck vnnd Bratw?rsten vmblegt. ਀䄀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀 挀漀漀欀攀搀⼀ 愀渀搀 眀椀琀栀 猀洀漀欀攀搀 戀愀挀漀渀 愀渀搀 戀爀愀琀眀甀爀猀琀 氀愀椀搀 愀爀漀甀渀搀⸀ഊ ਀䔀椀渀 猀愀甀爀 䬀爀愀甀琀 洀椀琀 搀㼀爀爀攀渀 䰀愀挀栀猀 最攀猀漀琀琀攀渀⼀ 瘀渀渀搀 䈀愀挀欀昀椀猀挀栀⼀ 瘀渀搀 䈀爀愀琀昀椀猀挀栀 愀甀昀昀 搀愀猀 䬀爀愀甀琀⼀ 愀氀氀攀猀 椀渀 攀椀渀 匀挀栀㼀猀猀攀氀 愀渀最攀爀椀挀栀琀⸀ഊA sauerkraut cooked with dried salmon/ and backfish/ and fried fish on the kraut/ all arranged in a dish. ਀ഊWarme Erbe? mit saurem Kraut. ਀圀愀爀洀 瀀攀愀猀 眀椀琀栀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀䠀愀洀洀攀氀 ㈀㈀⸀ 䬀愀爀眀攀渀愀搀愀 瘀漀渀 搀攀洀 䠀愀洀洀攀氀 稀甀 欀漀挀栀攀渀⸀ 一椀洀洀 愀甀㼀 搀攀爀 匀攀椀琀攀渀 搀椀攀 刀椀戀 瘀漀渀 搀攀洀 䠀愀洀洀攀氀 ⼀ 甀渀搀 栀愀眀 搀椀攀 䈀爀甀猀琀 搀愀瘀漀渀 栀椀渀眀攀最 ⼀ 甀渀搀 戀爀愀甀挀栀猀 眀漀爀稀甀 搀甀 攀猀 栀愀戀攀渀 眀椀氀琀 ⼀ 攀猀 猀攀椀 稀甀 最爀㼀渀攀洀 漀搀攀爀 猀愀甀爀攀洀 䬀爀愀甀琀 ⼀ 一椀洀洀 搀椀攀 刀椀戀攀渀 ⼀ 猀挀栀渀攀椀搀琀 攀椀渀攀 渀愀挀栀 搀攀爀 愀渀搀攀爀渀 栀攀爀愀甀㼀 ⼀ 猀愀洀瀀琀 搀攀洀 䘀氀攀椀猀挀栀 ⼀ 稀攀爀欀氀漀瀀昀 攀椀渀 猀攀最氀椀挀栀攀 刀椀戀 戀攀猀漀渀搀攀爀 洀椀琀 攀椀渀攀爀 圀攀椀搀漀爀愀爀攀渀爀甀挀欀 ⼀ 甀渀搀 眀攀渀渀 搀甀 攀猀 眀椀氀琀 戀爀愀琀攀渀 ⼀ 猀漀 戀攀猀瀀爀攀渀最猀 愀甀昀 戀攀椀搀攀渀 猀攀椀琀攀渀 洀椀琀 匀愀氀稀 ⼀ 氀攀最猀 愀甀昀 攀椀渀 刀㼀㼀琀 ⼀ 甀渀搀 戀爀愀琀猀 最攀猀挀栀眀椀渀搀琀 栀椀渀眀攀最 ⼀ 戀攀最攀甀㼀 洀椀琀 栀攀椀猀猀攀渀 匀瀀攀挀欀 ⼀ 漀搀攀爀 渀椀洀洀 氀愀甀琀攀爀攀 䈀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ 唀渀搀 眀攀渀渀 搀甀 攀猀 眀椀氀琀 愀渀爀椀挀栀琀攀渀 ⼀ 猀漀 渀椀洀洀 攀椀渀 戀爀愀甀渀攀 猀愀甀爀攀 䈀爀㼀栀攀 ⼀ 搀椀攀 眀漀栀氀 最攀瀀昀攀昀昀攀爀琀 椀猀琀 ⼀ 最椀攀㼀 漀戀攀渀 搀愀爀㼀戀攀爀 ⼀ 搀愀㼀 攀猀 眀愀爀洀 愀甀昀 攀椀渀 吀椀猀挀栀 欀漀洀瀀琀 ⼀ 䐀攀渀渀 眀攀渀渀 攀猀 欀愀氀琀 椀猀琀 ⼀ 猀漀 眀漀氀琀 椀挀栀 渀椀挀栀琀 攀椀渀 倀昀攀渀渀椀最 搀爀甀洀戀 最攀戀攀渀 ⼀ 唀渀搀 攀椀渀 猀漀氀氀挀栀攀 匀瀀攀椀猀攀 洀甀㼀 洀愀渀 洀愀挀栀攀渀 ⼀ 眀攀渀渀 攀椀渀 䠀攀爀爀 戀攀 椀搀攀洀 吀椀猀挀栀 椀猀琀⸀ 唀渀搀 眀攀渀渀猀 攀椀渀攀爀 最攀爀渀 洀椀琀 䬀渀漀戀氀愀甀渀挀栀 椀猀琀 最甀琀 甀渀搀 氀椀攀戀氀椀挀栀⸀ 匀漀氀挀栀攀 匀瀀攀椀猀攀 欀愀渀猀琀甀 戀爀愀琀攀渀 漀搀攀爀 猀椀攀搀攀渀 ⼀ 漀搀攀爀 愀甀挀栀 眀漀栀氀 攀椀渀搀㼀洀瀀昀攀渀 ⼀ 搀攀渀渀 洀愀渀 栀愀琀 渀椀挀栀琀 愀氀氀稀攀椀琀 搀爀攀椀 漀搀攀爀 瘀椀攀爀攀爀氀攀椀 䘀氀攀椀猀挀栀⸀ഊ ਀㈀㈀⸀ 吀漀 挀漀漀欀 挀愀爀戀漀渀愀搀漀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀甀琀琀漀渀⸀  吀愀欀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀椀戀猀 漀昀 愀 洀甀琀琀漀渀⼀ 愀渀搀 挀甀琀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀猀琀 愀眀愀礀 昀爀漀洀 椀琀⼀ 愀渀搀 渀攀攀搀 眀栀愀琀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 椀琀⼀ 戀攀 椀琀 最爀攀攀渀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 漀爀 猀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀⼀ 吀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 爀椀戀猀⼀ 猀氀椀挀攀 漀渀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀⼀ 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀⼀ 戀攀愀琀 猀甀挀栀 愀 爀椀戀 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 眀椀琀栀 愀 圀攀椀搀漀爀愀爀攀渀爀甀挀欀⼀ 愀渀搀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 爀漀愀猀琀 椀琀⼀ഊthen sprinkle on both sides with salt/ lay on a grill/ and roast swiftly away/ baste with hot bacon/ or take clean butter. And when you will serve/ then take a brown sour stock/ that is well peppered/ pour over the top/ that it comes to the table warm/ because if it is cold/ then I will not give a penny for it/ And such a dish one has to make/ when a Lord is at the table. And when you would like it with garlic it is good and lovely. Such dishes you can roast or boil/ or also well steam/ because one has not always three or four meats. ਀ഊSpensaw 23. Ger?uchert oder Geselcht Spensaw ist auch nicht b??/ magst sie kalt oder warm geben/ sie ist auf beide manier gut/ Oder kochs unter gr?nem K?l/ mit saurem Kraut/ oder mit Spenat/ oder Bisenkraut/ welches man sonst R?mischen K?l nennet. ਀ഊ23. Smoked or salted pig is not also bad/ serve it cold or warm/ It is good in both manners or cook under green cabbage/ with sauerkraut or with spinach/or Bisenkraut which one otherwise calls Roman cabbage. ਀ഊ(And if anyone has a translation for Bisenkraut, I'd be glad to hear it). ਀ഊFasan 22. Nim~ ein ger?ucherten Fasan/ vnd guten Speck/ der unterwachsen ist/ auch ein guten Kappaunen/ der nicht ger?uchert ist/ Nim~ den Speck/ vn~ schneidt jn gar klein/ setz jn zu mit saurem Kraut/ vnd la? wol darmit sieden/ r?r es wol mit einem h?ltzern L?ffel/ Wenn das Kraut wol gesotten ist/ so thu den Fasanen darein/ vnd den Kappaun/ la? auch siedenm mit dem Kraut/ r?r es durcheinander mit einem h?ltzern L?ffel/ so ist es ein gutes essen. Vnd ich habe es offte gekocht vor grosse Herrn/ sonderlich vor die Herrn von Osterreich. ਀ഊTake a smoked pheasant/ and good bacon/ that is unterwachsen/ also a good capon that is not smoked/ Take the bacon and cut it very small/ set it to the fire with sauerkraut/ and it let it simmer together well/ stir it well with a wooden spoon/ When the kraut is well cooked/ then put the pheasant in it/ and the capon/ let also cook with the kraut/ stir it together with a wooden spoon/ like this it is a good food. And I have often cooked for great lords, especially the lords of Austria. ਀ഊRanvaig ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䨀愀渀 ㈀  㤀 ㈀㌀㨀㈀㄀㨀㄀㠀 ⴀ 㘀   ⠀䌀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 最椀渀漀爀洀漀甀猀 愀洀漀甀渀琀猀 漀昀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊ< On Jan 9, 2009, at 10:12 PM, Stefan li Rous wrote: ਀匀漀 眀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 礀漀甀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 漀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 琀栀椀猀 最椀渀漀爀洀漀甀猀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀ഊcabbage? Stuffed cabbages? > ਀ഊIt's a pickled cabbage recipe from Ein Kochbuch aus dem Archiv des ਀䐀攀甀琀猀挀栀攀渀 伀爀搀攀渀猀Ⰰ 昀漀甀渀搀 栀攀爀攀㨀ഊhttp://www.greneboke.com/recipes/pickledcabbage.shtml. Well, that was some ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀⸀ 吀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 最漀琀 搀爀攀猀猀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 愀渀 漀氀椀瘀攀 漀椀氀⼀爀攀搀 眀椀渀攀 ഊvinegar/sugar/salt/caraway seed dressing as a sort of extemporaneous ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀漀椀搀 戀氀愀渀挀栀攀搀 挀愀戀戀愀最攀 猀愀氀愀搀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 眀栀攀渀 搀漀椀渀最 挀愀戀戀愀最攀礀 琀栀椀渀最猀 昀漀爀 渀漀爀琀栀攀爀渀 瀀氀愀椀渀猀 ഊpeople, that one should assume the servings are going to be very small. ਀䴀愀搀攀 琀眀椀挀攀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 愀猀 眀愀猀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀Ⰰ 愀猀 甀猀甀愀氀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 氀甀渀挀栀 眀攀渀琀 猀眀椀洀洀椀渀最氀礀 眀攀氀氀ⴀⴀ瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 猀攀攀洀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 瀀氀攀愀猀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 ഊoffering (sausage or spinach tart, the cabbage salads, cheese, apples, ਀猀栀漀爀琀戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 愀 挀椀搀攀爀 洀甀猀琀愀爀搀 愀渀搀 愀 瀀攀愀爀 洀甀猀琀愀爀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀攀洀漀渀愀搀攀⤀Ⰰ 渀漀戀漀搀礀 ഊasked me for ketchup, I got a bunch of compliments which I was not ਀攀砀瀀攀挀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 眀愀猀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 搀椀猀瀀漀猀攀 漀昀 氀攀昀琀漀瘀攀爀猀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 愀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀⸀ 䤀 栀愀搀 ഊas an able assistant a lady who just moved into town from Thescorre in ਀䄀攀琀栀攀氀洀愀爀挀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀甀猀 最漀琀 琀漀 椀渀琀爀漀搀甀挀攀 栀攀爀 琀漀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 眀攀渀琀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 ഊlunch line that I happened to know. ਀ഊMargaret FitzWilliam ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㜀 䨀愀渀 ㈀  㤀  㤀㨀㔀㐀㨀㔀㜀 ⬀㄀㌀  ഊFrom: Antonia Calvo ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 匀愀甀攀爀欀爀愀甀琀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊLaureen Hart wrote: ਀㰀㰀㰀 伀渀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 猀愀椀搀 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 欀爀愀甀琀 愀琀 㘀㔀ⴀ㜀  搀攀最爀攀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 㐀ⴀ㔀 搀愀礀猀 猀漀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀 氀攀甀挀漀渀漀猀琀漀挀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀⸀ 䄀昀琀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 琀椀洀攀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 瀀甀琀 椀琀 椀渀 愀 挀漀漀氀攀爀 氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䄀琀 愀 猀攀挀漀渀搀愀爀礀 瀀栀愀猀攀 愀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 氀攀甀挀漀渀漀猀琀漀挀 ⠀椀椀爀挀⤀ഊtakes over and increases the acidity. ਀ഊHas anyone here dealt with this when making kraut? I started 10 lb of ਀挀愀戀戀愀最攀 愀渀搀 椀琀 椀猀 漀渀 洀礀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 挀漀甀渀琀攀爀 爀椀最栀琀 渀漀眀⸀ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀 琀漀 洀漀瘀攀 椀琀ഊto a back room that is not heated but don't want to mess it up. Most of the ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 猀攀攀洀攀搀 琀漀 最漀 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 琀漀 琀栀攀 爀漀漀琀 挀攀氀氀愀爀 漀爀 最愀爀愀最攀⸀ 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀䐀攀瀀攀渀搀猀 眀栀愀琀 ∀甀渀栀攀愀琀攀搀∀ 洀攀愀渀猀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 渀攀挀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀漀漀搀猀⸀  䤀昀 琀栀攀 愀爀攀愀 ഊyou put it in doesn't get too cold (say, not dropping below 10-12C, it ਀猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 昀椀渀攀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 昀攀爀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 猀氀漀眀⸀  䤀昀 椀琀✀猀 洀漀爀攀 ഊlike 0-10C, the fermentation will slow to a crawl and possibly even stop. ਀ⴀⴀ ഊAntonia di Benedetto Calvo ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ猀愀甀爀欀爀愀甀琀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 ㄀㤀 漀昀 ㄀㤀ഊ ਊ