spits-msg - 9/19/08 ਀ഊSpits for roasting meats. Period and SCA. Methods of turning them. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: whole-pig-msg, roast-chicken-msg, roast-meats-msg, roast-pork-msg, utensils-msg, ovens-msg, forks-msg, firepits-msg, camp-kitchens-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: greg at bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Greg Rose) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Period (Cooking) Pot Use ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 㔀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㔀 ㄀㐀㨀　㔀㨀㐀㠀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊOrganization: Guest of MIT AI and LCS labs ਀ഊGreetings, all, from Angharad ver' Rhuawn. ਀ഊThomas the Tent-Peg of Bergental, amidst a fair quantity of ਀樀漀欀攀爀礀Ⰰ 愀猀欀攀搀 愀 爀攀愀氀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 渀漀 漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 栀愀猀 琀愀欀攀渀 甀瀀Ⰰഊso I thought I'd give it a try. ਀ഊ>Does anybody know how they cooked over an open fire in-Period? I've ਀㸀琀爀椀攀搀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 愀渀 椀爀漀渀 最爀愀琀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 昀椀渀搀 椀琀 愀渀渀漀礀椀渀最⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀㰀猀渀椀瀀 漀昀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 椀渀昀漀 漀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 漀渀 昀椀爀攀猀 ⴀ 猀攀攀 甀琀攀渀猀椀氀猀ⴀ洀猀最㸀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 眀漀爀搀 漀昀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀㨀 椀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 愀 猀瀀椀琀 琀漀 爀漀愀猀琀 洀攀愀琀 漀渀Ⰰ 礀漀甀ഊwant more than just a piece of iron to go through the meat and ਀愀挀爀漀猀猀 琀漀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀猀⸀  夀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 椀琀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀礀猀琀攀洀 漀昀 氀椀琀琀氀攀ഊknife-like stickers around one end, to hold the meat in place. ਀伀琀栀攀爀眀椀猀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 琀甀爀渀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀Ⰰ 眀栀椀氀攀 琀栀攀ഊsame (heaviest) side remains stubbornly toward the flame, ਀最椀瘀椀渀最 礀漀甀 愀 爀漀愀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 戀甀爀渀攀搀 漀渀 漀渀攀 猀椀搀攀 愀渀搀 爀愀眀 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊother. ਀ഊ-- Angharad/Terry ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㈀㨀㌀㔀㨀㌀㠀 ⬀㄀㄀　　 ⠀䔀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: Charles McCathieNevile ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀䠀䔀䄀倀 猀瀀椀琀猀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 瘀攀爀礀 猀甀挀攀猀猀昀甀氀氀礀 甀猀攀搀 愀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 栀愀爀搀眀漀漀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㈀∀ 猀焀甀愀爀攀 愀渀搀 㠀✀ഊlong, sharpened at one end (I used a circular saw to sharpen it, but it ਀挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀氀礀⸀ 䄀猀 愀 猀瀀椀琀 猀琀愀渀搀 愀琀 攀愀挀栀 攀渀搀 椀琀 琀愀欀攀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀ഊpieces of 1" hardwood, and a block of the spit wood. Cut one of the ਀㄀∀瀀椀攀挀攀猀 猀栀漀爀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀栀愀爀瀀攀渀 愀渀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 漀渀攀 ⠀昀漀爀 攀愀猀礀 瀀甀猀栀椀渀最ഊinto the ground. screw them to the 2" block, and place the spit between ਀琀栀攀洀 ⴀ 椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 琀甀爀渀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀 猀焀甀愀爀攀⸀ 吀漀 琀甀爀渀 椀琀Ⰰ 氀椀昀琀 椀琀ഊoff and rotate the desired amount. (this is the drawback - it requires ਀琀眀漀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 昀漀爀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 愀渀椀洀愀氀⤀ 吀漀 愀搀樀甀猀琀 琀栀攀 栀攀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 瀀甀琀 愀 猀挀爀攀眀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊtop of each 1" piece, and use a bit of heavy cord. Alternatively, rest it ਀漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 戀氀漀挀欀 ⠀琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀猀 氀漀眀 愀猀 椀琀 挀愀渀 最攀琀⸀⸀⸀⤀ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 愀搀搀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀ഊchocks. ਀ഊI have one spit made in this manner. I have set fire to a set of ends, ਀愀渀搀 戀爀漀欀攀渀 愀渀 攀渀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 椀猀 昀椀渀攀⸀ ⠀䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀琀攀攀氀 攀渀搀猀ഊ- - a welder could do that. In the meantime I just rest it on a couple of logs. ਀䈀甀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 甀猀攀搀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 㠀 琀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 瘀攀爀礀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀戀氀攀ഊdegradation of it - it has not caught fire, although once an assistant ਀挀漀漀欀 氀攀昀琀 琀栀攀 戀攀愀猀琀礀 ⠀愀 渀椀挀攀 昀愀琀 猀栀攀攀瀀⤀ 琀漀漀 氀漀眀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀搀 琀漀 戀攀 瀀甀琀ഊout with a bladder of wine. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀ 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㈀㨀㈀㈀㨀㄀㠀 ⴀ　㜀　　ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 猀攀琀甀瀀ഊ ਀䄀琀 㠀㨀　㌀ 䄀䴀 ⴀ　㜀　　 㘀⼀㈀㌀⼀㤀㠀Ⰰ 䄀渀渀攀ⴀ䴀愀爀椀攀 刀漀甀猀猀攀愀甀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>ok, heres the deal. We're doing 15th century re-creation. Not the SCA way ਀㸀漀昀 瀀椀挀欀椀渀最 戀椀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 昀爀漀洀 愀氀氀 漀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀爀礀椀渀最 爀攀愀氀氀礀 爀攀愀氀氀礀ഊ>hard to stick to 1470 Franco Flemish/Bruges... ਀ഊand asked about primary soiurces for cooking of that period. ਀ഊThere is a picture in _Medieval Drawings_, M. W. Evans, Hamlyn Publishing ਀䜀爀漀甀瀀 䰀琀搀⸀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㘀㤀Ⰰ 漀昀 愀渀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 唀稀稀椀愀栀 攀渀琀攀爀琀愀椀渀椀渀最 䄀挀挀栀椀漀爀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀ഊelders to a banquet (from the Book of Judith), from Germany 1400-05. There ਀愀爀攀 猀椀砀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 椀渀 猀渀愀稀稀礀 ∀洀漀搀攀爀渀∀ ⠀椀攀Ⰰ 琀椀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀漀爀⤀ 挀氀漀琀栀攀猀ഊsitting at a table outdoors on benches, with a tablecloth and fancy cups ਀愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 搀椀猀栀攀猀⸀  䤀渀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀攀最爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 愀 洀愀渀 漀爀 戀漀礀 椀渀 猀攀爀瘀愀渀琀✀猀 挀氀漀琀栀椀渀最ഊis holding one end of a long spit, straight except that his end has a maybe ਀㘀∀ 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 琀甀爀渀攀搀 爀椀最栀琀ⴀ愀渀最氀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 漀昀 椀琀⸀  吀栀攀 昀愀爀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀ഊis resting on a thick forked stick stuck in the ground; near that end under ਀琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 椀猀 愀 昀椀爀攀 ⠀昀氀愀洀攀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 瘀椀猀椀戀氀攀⤀ 眀椀琀栀 琀眀漀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀猀 漀爀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最ഊsimilar spitted over the fire. A gentleman (to judge by his clothes) is ਀瀀漀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 氀漀渀最 猀琀椀挀欀⸀  吀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀愀渀琀 椀猀 猀椀琀琀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀ഊwith the spit at almost the level of his shoulder, watching the chickens ਀愀渀搀 瀀爀攀猀甀洀愀戀氀礀 琀甀爀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀㬀 愀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 搀椀猀栀 猀椀琀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 渀攀砀琀 琀漀ഊhim, presumably waiting for the chickens. It is a neat picture, and has ਀愀氀眀愀礀猀 猀甀最最攀猀琀攀搀 琀漀 洀攀 眀栀愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 漀甀最栀琀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 氀椀欀攀 椀昀 眀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 搀漀 椀琀ഊperfectly. ਀ഊElizabeth of Dendermonde/Betty Cook ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䴀愀爀 ㈀　　　 　㄀㨀　㤀㨀㔀　 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: Nick Sasso ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 吀栀攀 䬀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀ഊ ਀䨀攀昀昀 䜀攀搀渀攀礀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀 ഊ<<>> ਀㸀 ഊ> > Animals were often cooked over the fire in the fireplace on spits. ਀㸀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 洀漀爀攀 昀爀攀焀甀攀渀琀氀礀 戀漀椀氀攀搀Ⰰ 椀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀爀瀀甀猀 漀昀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀ഊ> are any indication ਀㸀 ⠀䈀吀圀 刀愀猀Ⰰ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 愀 戀攀搀 漀昀 眀漀漀搀 挀漀愀氀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 攀焀甀愀琀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀椀渀搀 漀昀 愀 栀椀最栀ഊ> school kid to "fire"... that is putting too fine a distinction here, don't you think?) ਀㸀 ഊ> > Spits were long poles of wood on which an animal could be secured. ਀㸀 洀攀琀愀氀Ⰰ 椀猀 洀漀爀攀 氀椀欀攀氀礀⸀ 愀 眀漀漀搀攀渀 猀瀀椀琀 挀愀渀 漀渀氀礀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀猀ഊ> before they burn through ਀ഊWhen considering these two bits of information together, I suspect that ਀眀漀漀搀攀渀 猀瀀椀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 渀漀琀 愀猀 搀椀猀瀀漀猀愀戀氀攀 愀猀 愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 洀漀琀漀爀椀稀攀搀ഊspit for roasting up to 250 lb. animal on it. It is an ash spit that is ਀焀甀椀琀攀 爀攀甀猀愀戀氀攀⸀  琀栀攀 洀愀渀 眀栀漀 戀甀椀氀琀 椀琀 栀愀猀 愀 猀瀀椀琀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀 栀愀猀 甀猀攀搀 愀ഊdozen times without appreciable fire damage (6-8 hours of roasting per ਀猀攀猀猀椀漀渀⤀⸀  ഊ ਀䈀礀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀氀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀椀稀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀攀搀 漀昀 挀漀愀氀猀 愀渀搀 戀愀渀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀ഊrestricted to an area roughly the size of the beast covering the pole. ਀䰀攀猀猀 栀攀愀琀 漀渀 眀漀漀搀 愀渀搀 氀漀渀最攀爀 搀甀爀愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 猀瀀椀琀⸀  吀栀椀猀 搀漀攀猀 渀漀琀 猀愀礀 琀栀愀琀ഊiron was not used, only that my experience and observation indicates ਀琀栀愀琀 眀漀漀搀 椀猀 搀甀爀愀戀氀攀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 愀瀀瀀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ ⠀䄀渀搀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 氀愀洀戀 椀猀 焀甀椀琀攀ഊdivine!) ਀ഊniccolo difrancesco ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ 㘀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㤀㨀㐀㄀㨀㌀㄀ ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 匀瀀椀琀猀 ⠀眀愀猀㨀 吀栀攀 䬀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀⤀ഊ ਀䄀琀 ㄀㨀　㤀 䄀䴀 ⴀ　㔀　　 ㌀⼀㄀㄀⼀　　Ⰰ 一椀挀欀 匀愀猀猀漀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>Jeff Gedney wrote: ਀㸀  㸀ഊ><<>> ਀㸀  㸀ഊ> > > Spits were long poles of wood on which an animal could be secured. ਀㸀  㸀 洀攀琀愀氀Ⰰ 椀猀 洀漀爀攀 氀椀欀攀氀礀⸀ 愀 眀漀漀搀攀渀 猀瀀椀琀 挀愀渀 漀渀氀礀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀猀ഊ> > before they burn through ਀㸀ഊ>When considering these two bits of information together, I suspect that ਀㸀眀漀漀搀攀渀 猀瀀椀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 渀漀琀 愀猀 搀椀猀瀀漀猀愀戀氀攀 愀猀 愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 洀漀琀漀爀椀稀攀搀ഊ>spit for roasting up to 250 lb. animal on it. It is an ash spit that is ਀㸀焀甀椀琀攀 爀攀甀猀愀戀氀攀⸀  琀栀攀 洀愀渀 眀栀漀 戀甀椀氀琀 椀琀 栀愀猀 愀 猀瀀椀琀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀 栀愀猀 甀猀攀搀 愀ഊ>dozen times without appreciable fire damage (6-8 hours of roasting per ਀㸀猀攀猀猀椀漀渀⤀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀䈀礀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀氀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀椀稀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀攀搀 漀昀 挀漀愀氀猀 愀渀搀 戀愀渀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀ഊ>restricted to an area roughly the size of the beast covering the pole. ਀㸀䰀攀猀猀 栀攀愀琀 漀渀 眀漀漀搀 愀渀搀 氀漀渀最攀爀 搀甀爀愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 猀瀀椀琀⸀  吀栀椀猀 搀漀攀猀 渀漀琀 猀愀礀 琀栀愀琀ഊ>iron was not used, only that my experience and observation indicates ਀㸀琀栀愀琀 眀漀漀搀 椀猀 搀甀爀愀戀氀攀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 愀瀀瀀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ ⠀䄀渀搀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 氀愀洀戀 椀猀 焀甀椀琀攀ഊ>divine!) ਀㸀ഊ>niccolo difrancesco ਀ഊOn that subject from Chiquart (_Du Fait de Cuisine_, 1420): ਀ഊ And one should definitely not trust wooden spits, because they will ਀爀漀琀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 氀漀猀攀 愀氀氀 礀漀甀爀 洀攀愀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 漀渀攀 栀甀渀搀爀攀搀 ഊand twenty iron spits which are strong and are thirteen feet in ਀氀攀渀最琀栀㬀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀瀀椀琀猀Ⰰ 琀栀爀攀攀 搀漀稀攀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 愀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ഊaforesaid length but not so thick, to roast poultry, little piglets, ਀愀渀搀 爀椀瘀攀爀 昀漀眀氀⸀ 䄀渀搀 愀氀猀漀Ⰰ 昀漀甀爀 搀漀稀攀渀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 猀瀀椀琀猀 琀漀 搀漀 攀渀搀漀爀椀渀最 愀渀搀 ഊact as skewers. ਀ഊElizabeth/Betty Cook ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䨀甀渀 ㈀　　㄀ ㄀㈀㨀　㐀㨀㌀㌀ ⬀　㈀　　ഊFrom: tgl at mailer.uni-marburg.de ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Glossary submission? ਀ഊ<< *in* a broch? That doesn't sound like a spit. Sounds like a low-sided ਀挀氀愀礀 瀀漀琀⸀ 㸀㸀ഊ ਀圀栀椀氀攀 琀栀攀 伀䔀䐀 猀愀礀猀 琀栀愀琀 开戀爀漀挀栀开 愀氀猀漀 爀攀昀攀爀爀攀搀 琀漀 氀愀爀最攀 樀甀最猀 ⠀∀㄀㘀㜀㤀ഊBlount Anc. Tenures 51 One iron Broch, which was a great Pot or Jug to ਀挀愀爀爀礀 䰀椀焀甀椀搀 琀栀椀渀最猀⸀∀⤀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 ∀椀渀∀ 椀渀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀漀 猀瀀椀琀猀 椀猀 渀漀琀ഊwholly unusual. ਀ഊI had to comment on two recipes with "in einem spisse" (lit. 'in a ਀猀瀀椀琀✀⤀ 椀渀 琀栀攀 刀栀攀椀渀昀爀㴀䔀㐀渀欀椀猀挀栀攀猀 䬀漀挀栀戀甀挀栀Ⰰ ㄀㔀琀栀 挀⸀Ⰰ 最攀爀洀愀渀⸀ 䰀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀昀ഊthis was an error or if I could keep it in the edition, I found that the ਀挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 眀椀琀栀 ∀椀渀∀ 椀猀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 漀琀栀攀爀 氀愀渀最甀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 琀漀漀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀ 椀渀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䰀漀眀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 琀攀砀琀猀 ⠀∀椀渀 攀渀 椀搀攀爀 猀瀀礀琀 㐀 猀琀甀挀欀攀∀Ⰰ 氀椀琀⸀ ✀椀渀 攀愀挀栀ഊspit four pieces') ਀ഊ-- in Italian recipes, _nello spiedo_ lit. 'in the spit', e.g. in ਀䴀愀攀猀琀爀漀 䴀愀爀琀椀渀漀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀攀 䄀渀漀渀椀洀漀 䴀攀爀椀搀椀漀渀愀氀攀Ⰰ 猀攀攀 䈀漀猀琀爀㴀䘀㘀洀 䄀㌀㄀⸀㌀Ⰰ 䄀㘀㈀⸀㈀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀ 椀渀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 ∀攀渀 氀愀 戀爀漀挀栀攀∀ 氀椀琀⸀ ✀椀渀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀✀ ⠀攀⸀最⸀ 椀渀 琀栀攀 䴀攀渀愀最椀攀爀⤀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀ 愀渀搀 椀渀 䰀愀琀椀渀 ∀椀渀 猀瀀椀琀漀渀攀∀ 氀椀琀⸀ ✀椀渀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀✀Ⰰ 䌀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀 漀昀 䨀攀愀渀 搀攀ഊBockenheim, ed. Laurioux # 19, 22, 50. ਀ഊThus, as _broch_ seems to go back to French _broche_, the use of _in_ in ਀爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀漀 开戀爀漀挀栀开 椀渀 愀渀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 琀攀砀琀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀ഊheritage. ਀ഊThomas ਀⠀吀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 愀最愀椀渀㨀ഊ1594 Handmaide (Peachey p. 40) "To roste a Hare. First wash it in faire ਀眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 瀀攀爀戀漀礀氀攀 椀琀 愀渀搀 氀愀礀 椀渀 挀漀氀搀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀最愀椀渀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 氀愀爀搀攀 椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊroste it in a broch. Then to make sauce for it, take red Vinigar, Salt, ਀倀攀瀀瀀攀爀Ⰰ 䜀椀渀最攀爀 䌀氀漀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 䴀愀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 洀椀渀猀攀 䄀瀀瀀氀攀猀Ⰰഊand Onions, and frie them with a litle Sugar, and let them boyle wel ਀琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 戀愀猀琀攀 椀琀 甀瀀漀渀 礀漀爀 栀愀爀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀漀 猀攀爀瘀攀 椀琀 昀漀漀爀琀栀∀⸀⤀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:51:07 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 倀栀椀氀椀瀀 ☀ 匀甀猀愀渀 吀爀漀礀 㰀琀爀漀礀 愀琀 愀猀愀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䜀氀漀猀猀愀爀礀 猀甀戀洀椀猀猀椀漀渀㼀ഊ ਀琀最氀 愀琀 洀愀椀氀攀爀⸀甀渀椀ⴀ洀愀爀戀甀爀最⸀搀攀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> -- in French "en la broche" lit. 'in the spit' (e.g. in the Menagier) ਀ഊThis usage is also perfectly modern, which is probably why it never ਀漀挀挀甀爀爀攀搀 琀漀 洀攀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 愀 猀瀀椀琀⸀ഊ ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "a5foil" ਀吀漀㨀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Glossary submission? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䨀甀渀 ㈀　　㄀ ㄀㠀㨀㐀㘀㨀㌀㌀ ⴀ　㐀　　ഊ ਀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 琀栀椀猀 栀漀氀搀猀 琀爀甀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀Ⰰ 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀ⰀഊSpanish and Catalan, the word that translates to English as "in" may also ਀琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀 琀漀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 愀猀 ∀漀渀∀ 漀爀 ∀愀戀漀甀琀∀Ⰰ 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀琀攀砀琀⸀ 䘀漀爀ഊexample, from the Catalan, "en la olla" translates as "in the pot" while "en ਀愀猀琀∀ 洀攀愀渀猀 ∀漀渀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀∀ 漀爀 ∀猀瀀椀琀ⴀ爀漀愀猀琀攀搀∀ 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 栀漀眀 椀琀✀猀 甀猀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀漀洀愀猀 䰀漀渀最猀栀愀渀欀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:41:46 +0200 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 琀最氀 愀琀 洀愀椀氀攀爀⸀甀渀椀ⴀ洀愀爀戀甀爀最⸀搀攀ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䜀氀漀猀猀愀爀礀 猀甀戀洀椀猀猀椀漀渀㼀ഊ ਀㰀㰀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 琀栀椀猀 栀漀氀搀猀 琀爀甀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀ⰀഊItalian, Spanish and Catalan, the word that translates to English as ਀∀椀渀∀ 洀愀礀 愀氀猀漀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀 琀漀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 愀猀 ∀漀渀∀ 漀爀 ∀愀戀漀甀琀∀Ⰰ 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊcontext. For example, from the Catalan, "en la olla" translates as "in ਀琀栀攀 瀀漀琀∀ 眀栀椀氀攀 ∀攀渀 愀猀琀∀ 洀攀愀渀猀 ∀漀渀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀∀ 漀爀 ∀猀瀀椀琀ⴀ爀漀愀猀琀攀搀∀ 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最ഊon how it's used. >> ਀ഊThanks a lot, Master Thomas, for pointing to the Catalan _en ast_ ! ਀ഊLooking at the Catalan De Nola and at the text of Sent Sovi, it seems ਀琀栀愀琀 开攀渀 愀猀琀开 椀猀 甀猀攀搀 焀甀椀琀攀 昀爀攀焀甀攀渀琀氀礀Ⰰ 戀漀琀栀 椀渀 挀愀猀攀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 椀猀ഊalready on (upon?) the spit (mig rostits en ast) and where one must put ਀猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 甀瀀漀渀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 ⠀攀 洀攀琀 氀愀 攀渀 愀猀琀⤀⸀ 䤀渀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 ∀椀渀∀ 椀渀ഊrespect to spits is very strange, normally one says "am Spie=DF" or "an ਀搀攀渀 匀瀀椀攀㴀䐀䘀∀⸀ 匀椀洀椀氀愀爀氀礀Ⰰ 愀猀 昀愀爀 愀猀 䤀 挀愀渀 猀攀攀 ⠀愀猀 愀 渀漀渀ⴀ渀愀琀椀瘀攀 猀瀀攀愀欀攀爀 愀渀搀ഊwriter of English), "on" or "upon" are commonly used in respect to spits ਀椀渀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀⸀ 倀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 䤀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 猀愀椀搀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 愀猀 昀愀爀 愀猀 䤀 挀愀渀 猀攀攀Ⰰ 椀渀ഊLatin "ad spitonem" is more frequently used than "in spitone" etc. ... ਀ഊBUT: my purpose was to say that "in" and its counterparts were not ਀眀栀漀氀氀礀 甀渀栀攀愀爀搀 漀昀 椀渀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀漀 猀瀀椀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀甀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 ∀椀渀∀ 椀渀 琀栀攀 䔀一䜀䰀䤀匀䠀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 开䤀匀开 猀琀爀愀渀最攀Ⰰ 愀猀 昀愀爀 愀猀 䤀ഊcan see, and the question, Stefan put forward, was a very good one! ਀ഊWhat I was trying to say is: the interpretation of the passage under ਀搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀攀渀猀攀 漀昀 ✀猀瀀椀琀✀ 挀愀渀 戀攀 搀攀昀攀渀搀攀搀Ⰰ 椀昀 漀渀攀 愀猀猀甀洀攀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊsome foreign (French, Romance) influence has taken place, where the ਀挀漀甀渀琀攀爀瀀愀爀琀猀 漀昀 ∀椀渀∀ 愀爀攀 眀攀氀氀 攀猀琀愀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 ⠀攀⸀最⸀ 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 开攀渀 戀爀漀挀栀攀开ⰀഊCatalan _en ast_). ਀ഊThomas II ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 䄀甀最 ㈀　　㈀ ㄀㜀㨀㌀㐀㨀㄀㘀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䌀椀渀搀礀 䴀⸀ 刀攀渀昀爀漀眀∀ 㰀挀椀渀搀礀 愀琀 琀栀漀甀猀愀渀搀攀最最猀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] clockwork rotisserie ਀ഊ>Does anybody have any information on how to build an old clockwork ਀㸀爀漀琀椀猀猀攀爀椀攀⸀  䐀爀愀眀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊ> ਀㸀䌀漀渀渀椀攀⸀䄀洀愀渀 愀琀 猀愀椀琀⸀愀戀⸀挀愀ഊ ਀䠀椀⸀ 䤀 眀愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 愀琀 䘀漀爀琀爀攀猀猀 漀昀 䰀漀甀椀猀戀漀甀爀最 椀渀 一漀瘀愀 匀挀漀琀椀愀Ⰰ 䌀愀渀愀搀愀⸀ഊhttp://fortress.uccb.ns.ca/parks/fort_e.html ਀䄀搀搀爀攀猀猀㨀    䘀漀爀琀爀攀猀猀 漀昀 䰀漀甀椀猀戀漀甀爀最Ⰰ 一䠀匀ഊ 259 Park Service Road, ਀                 䰀漀甀椀猀戀漀甀爀最Ⰰ 一匀ഊ B1C 2L2 ਀                 䌀愀渀愀渀搀愀ഊ ਀倀栀㨀 ⠀㤀　㈀⤀㜀㌀㌀ⴀ㈀㈀㠀　ഊFax: (902)733-2362 ਀ഊ In the governor's mansion, in the kitchen, is a recreation of a clockwork ਀爀漀琀椀猀猀攀爀椀攀⸀  䤀渀 琀栀攀 ∀栀漀眀 眀攀 搀椀搀 椀琀∀ 搀椀猀瀀氀愀礀Ⰰ 椀渀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊbuilding, is the name of the metalsmith & photos of the process. ਀ഊCindy ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 䄀甀最 ㈀　　㈀ 　㠀㨀㈀㠀㨀㈀　 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: johnna holloway ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] clockwork rotisserie ਀ഊ>Does anybody have any information on how to build an old clockwork ਀㸀爀漀琀椀猀猀攀爀椀攀⸀  䐀爀愀眀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀㸀䌀漀渀渀椀攀⸀䄀洀愀渀 愀琀 猀愀椀琀⸀愀戀⸀挀愀ഊ ਀䄀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 愀 戀椀琀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 椀昀 礀漀甀 氀漀漀欀⸀ഊ ਀䤀琀✀猀 猀挀愀琀琀攀爀攀搀 愀洀漀渀最 攀渀琀爀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 昀椀爀攀瀀氀愀挀攀猀Ⰰ 洀攀琀愀氀眀漀爀欀Ⰰഊ ironwork, clocks, engineering, technology, etc. ਀䜀攀渀攀爀愀氀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀ⴀഊYarwood, Doreen. The British kitchen : housewifery since Roman times / ਀䐀漀爀攀攀渀 夀愀爀眀漀漀搀⸀ 䰀漀渀搀漀渀 㨀 䈀愀琀猀昀漀爀搀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀㄀⸀ഊFeild, Rachael.Irons in the fire : a history of cooking equipment / ਀刀愀挀栀愀攀氀 䘀攀椀氀搀⸀刀愀洀猀戀甀爀礀Ⰰ 䴀愀爀氀戀漀爀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 圀椀氀琀猀栀椀爀攀 㨀 䌀爀漀眀漀漀搀 倀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀㐀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 䌀漀渀琀愀挀琀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 䄀氀椀挀攀 刀漀猀猀 眀栀漀 眀爀椀琀攀猀 愀 挀漀氀甀洀渀ഊfor the Journal of antiques. Online see-- ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀樀漀甀爀渀愀氀漀昀愀渀琀椀焀甀攀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀栀攀愀爀琀栀愀瀀爀　㄀⸀栀琀洀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀猀 椀渀 䔀愀爀氀礀 䄀洀攀爀椀挀愀渀 䰀椀昀攀⼀䠀漀洀攀猀 漀爀ഊEAL regarding their use on American or Colonial fireplaces. ਀䄀氀洀漀猀琀 愀渀礀 爀攀挀爀攀愀琀攀搀 挀漀氀漀渀椀愀氀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 椀渀  瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀ഊhistoric houses and parks have at least one. (Although at times ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀琀椀挀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀  漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 椀猀 昀漀爀 猀栀漀眀 漀渀氀礀⸀ഊThey were incorrectly strung and wouldn't allow the spit to turn ਀椀昀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 瀀甀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀渀愀攀 氀氀礀渀 䰀攀眀椀猀  䨀漀栀渀渀愀 䠀漀氀氀漀眀愀礀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 20:24:26 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 樀漀栀渀渀愀 栀漀氀氀漀眀愀礀 㰀樀漀栀渀渀愀 愀琀 猀椀琀欀愀⸀攀渀最椀渀⸀甀洀椀挀栀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 刀攀㨀 挀氀漀挀欀眀漀爀欀 爀漀琀椀猀猀攀爀椀攀ഊ ਀㸀䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀戀漀搀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 栀漀眀 琀漀 戀甀椀氀搀 愀渀 漀氀搀 挀氀漀挀欀眀漀爀欀ഊ>rotisserie. Drawings, pictures, anything. ਀㸀ഊ>Connie.Aman at sait.ab.ca ਀ഊThere is a rotisserie with gears illustrated in Scappi's ਀伀瀀攀爀愀 昀爀漀洀 ㄀㔀㜀　⸀ 䘀漀甀渀搀 椀琀 琀漀渀椀最栀琀 眀栀椀氀攀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊfor pie illustrations. ਀ഊYou can see it on the web at: ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀甀栀⸀攀搀甀⼀攀渀最椀渀攀猀⼀攀瀀椀㄀㘀㄀㤀⸀栀琀洀ഊ ਀琀栀攀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 猀愀礀猀ⴀⴀഊ"Clockwork was a primal concept of that age, and we see it again in ਀ 䈀愀爀琀漀氀攀洀攀漀 匀挀愀瀀瀀椀✀猀 猀瀀爀椀渀最ⴀ搀爀椀瘀攀渀 猀瀀椀琀 昀漀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 洀攀愀琀⸀ 䠀攀爀攀✀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊ few period pictures of a sixteenth-century watch mechanism. It's being used ਀ 漀渀 愀 栀攀爀漀椀挀 猀挀愀氀攀 琀漀 琀甀爀渀 琀栀爀攀攀 氀愀爀最攀 猀瀀椀琀猀 愀琀 挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀 猀瀀攀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䌀氀椀挀欀 漀渀 琀栀攀 栀椀最栀氀椀最栀琀攀搀 琀攀砀琀 愀渀搀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀渀愀 䠀漀氀氀漀眀愀礀  䨀漀栀渀渀愀攀 氀氀礀渀 䰀攀眀椀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 20:48:37 -0400 ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊFrom: Ron Carnegie ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 刀攀㨀 挀氀漀挀欀眀漀爀欀 爀漀琀椀猀猀攀爀椀攀ഊ ਀㸀䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀戀漀搀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 栀漀眀 琀漀 戀甀椀氀搀 愀渀 漀氀搀 挀氀漀挀欀眀漀爀欀ഊ>rotisserie. Drawings, pictures, anything. ਀㸀ഊ>Connie.Aman at sait.ab.ca ਀ഊ I can probably get you photos of a reproduction 18th century clock ਀樀愀挀欀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 椀渀挀爀攀搀椀戀氀礀 挀漀洀瀀氀椀挀愀琀攀搀 愀渀搀 渀漀琀 洀甀挀栀 甀猀攀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀ഊconditions we normally cook in (unless you have a permanant hearth that ਀椀猀⤀⸀  吀栀攀礀 甀猀攀 愀 眀攀椀最栀琀 猀礀猀琀攀洀 琀漀 搀爀椀瘀攀 琀栀攀 洀攀挀栀愀渀椀猀洀Ⰰ 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 猀瀀爀椀渀最猀⸀ഊYou have to crank the weight's rope around a winch which hopefully unwinds ਀猀氀漀眀氀礀 愀猀 琀栀攀 洀攀挀栀愀渀椀猀洀 爀甀渀猀⸀  吀栀椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀猀猀攀洀戀氀礀 琀栀攀爀攀昀漀爀攀 洀甀猀琀 戀攀ഊmounted high enough to give a long enough run to make the tool useful, as ਀眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 眀攀椀最栀琀 栀椀琀猀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀漀爀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 挀爀愀渀欀 愀最愀椀渀⸀ഊ ਀        䤀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 栀漀瀀攀昀甀氀氀礀⸀  吀栀攀 眀椀攀最栀琀猀 愀爀攀 椀渀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 猀椀稀攀猀Ⰰ 猀椀渀挀攀ഊthe food cooked is in different weights. This helps keep the spit turning ਀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀 猀瀀攀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀        䤀 栀愀瘀攀 甀猀攀搀 挀氀漀挀欀 樀愀挀欀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 挀愀渀 戀攀 愀渀渀漀礀椀渀最⸀ ⠀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊrecranking, we never seem to have the correct weights! Better to put a ਀挀栀椀氀搀 漀爀 愀瀀瀀爀攀渀琀椀挀攀 琀漀 琀甀爀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 戀礀 栀愀渀搀℀ഊ ਀        䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 樀愀挀欀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀Ⰰ 眀漀甀氀搀ഊbe a smoke or chimney jack. These rely on the rising heat to turn them, ਀樀甀猀琀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀漀猀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 挀栀爀椀猀琀洀愀猀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀搀氀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀刀愀渀愀氀搀 搀攀 䈀愀氀椀渀栀愀爀搀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:24:12 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀一愀渀挀礀 䬀椀攀氀∀ 㰀渀愀渀挀礀开欀椀攀氀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Kitchens at Hampton Court ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䌀漀氀漀渀椀愀氀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀戀甀爀最 栀愀猀 愀 挀氀漀挀欀樀愀挀欀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䜀漀瘀攀爀渀漀爀✀猀 倀愀氀愀挀攀✀猀  ഊkitchen, & may have pictures somewhere on the website. ਀ഊNancy Kiel ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ 　㌀ 䄀瀀爀 ㈀　　㜀 ㄀㄀㨀㌀㠀㨀㐀㄀ ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䰀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀 眀漀漀搀挀甀琀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊHow about this one-- ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀瀀戀洀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀氀椀渀搀愀栀氀⼀昀漀漀搀ⴀ愀爀琀⼀昀椀攀氀搀开欀椀琀挀栀攀渀⸀最椀昀ഊIt's one of the ones out of Scappi ਀䤀氀 䌀甀漀挀漀 匀攀最爀攀琀漀 䐀椀 倀愀瀀愀 倀椀漀 嘀 ⠀吀栀攀 倀爀椀瘀愀琀攀 䌀栀攀昀 漀昀 倀漀瀀攀 倀椀甀猀 嘀⤀Ⰰ 戀礀ഊBartolomeo Scappi, Venice, 1570. ਀䤀琀✀猀 愀琀 ⨀⼀吀栀攀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀⼀刀攀渀 䘀漀漀搀 䌀氀椀瀀ⴀ䄀爀琀 䌀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀⼀ഊhttp://www.pbm.com/%7Elindahl/food-art/ ਀ഊJohnnae ਀ഊMichael Gunter wrote: ਀㸀 䄀 眀栀椀氀攀 戀愀挀欀 䤀 猀愀眀 愀 眀漀漀搀挀甀琀 漀昀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 挀愀洀瀀 猀瀀椀琀 猀攀琀甀瀀⸀ഊ> It basically resembled a sawhorse with the horizontal bar ਀㸀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 瀀漀琀猀 栀愀渀最椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 椀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 愀氀漀渀最 漀渀攀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊ> legs there were hooks which held spits upon which birds ਀㸀 愀渀搀 猀愀甀猀愀最攀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀漀愀猀琀椀渀最⸀ഊ> I've looked all over and can't find the bloody thing now. ਀㸀 䤀✀洀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 猀漀洀攀 昀漀氀欀 栀攀爀攀 椀渀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 漀渀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最ഊ> a couple. The design is simple but I would like to find this ਀㸀 琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 甀猀攀 愀猀 愀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀⸀ 䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀椀猀 漀爀ഊ> know where I could find it? snipped ਀㸀 䜀甀渀琀栀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 08:39:54 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀甀猀愀渀 䘀漀砀 㰀猀攀氀攀渀攀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Looking for a woodcut ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀 䜀甀渀琀攀爀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> A while back I saw a woodcut of a period camp spit setup. ਀㸀 䤀琀 戀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 爀攀猀攀洀戀氀攀搀 愀 猀愀眀栀漀爀猀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 栀漀爀椀稀漀渀琀愀氀 戀愀爀ഊ> having pots hanging from it and then along one side of the ਀㸀 氀攀最猀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀 栀漀漀欀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 栀攀氀搀 猀瀀椀琀猀 甀瀀漀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 戀椀爀搀猀ഊ> and sausages were roasting. ਀ഊGode Cookery has a library of medieval food and cookery images. The ਀猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀 愀渀搀 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀 戀攀最椀渀猀 栀攀爀攀㨀ഊhttp://www.godecookery.com/afeast/kitchens/kit001.html ਀ഊSelene C. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㌀ 䄀瀀爀 ㈀　　㜀 ㄀㤀㨀㌀㤀㨀　　 ⴀ　㜀　　 ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Helen Schultz ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䰀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀 眀漀漀搀挀甀琀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊI had a friend make me his rendition of that spit set-up a few years ਀愀最漀⸀⸀⸀ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 猀攀攀 椀琀 愀琀㨀  栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀洀攀椀猀琀攀爀椀渀⸀欀愀琀愀爀椀渀愀⸀栀漀洀攀⸀挀漀洀挀愀猀琀⸀渀攀琀⼀ ഊpennsic30.html. The only thing I can see the artist left off was ਀琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀漀 栀漀氀搀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 瀀漀氀攀⸀  䴀礀 猀瀀椀琀 椀猀渀✀琀  ഊexactly like the one from Scampi, but close, and it all comes apart ਀昀漀爀 攀愀猀礀 琀爀愀渀猀瀀漀爀琀⸀  䤀✀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 㘀　⌀ 瀀椀最 漀渀 椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 漀渀攀猀Ⰰ 愀猀  ഊwell. ਀ഊ~~ Meisterin Katarina Helene ਀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ 伀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀 ⴀⴀⴀⴀഊFrom: Saint Phlip phlip at 99main.com ਀ഊI've been looking at that picture too, and it's my belief that the ਀愀爀琀椀猀琀 氀攀昀琀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 漀甀琀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀Ⰰ 愀猀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 戀氀漀漀搀礀 琀栀椀渀最ഊwould have all your food in a heap. ਀ഊAt any rate, I too intend to make one, after I get a few other ਀瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀猀 搀漀渀攀⸀ 圀椀琀栀 氀甀挀欀Ⰰ 戀礀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀Ⰰ 䤀✀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀氀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀ഊsmithing set up ;-) ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 　㐀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀　　㜀 　㘀㨀㔀㤀㨀㐀㔀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: "Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䰀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀 眀漀漀搀挀甀琀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊOn Apr 4, 2007, at 2:50 AM, Saint Phlip wrote: ਀㸀 䤀✀氀氀 栀愀昀琀愀 最攀琀 甀瀀 愀渀搀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀 椀琀 渀攀砀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀⸀ 䤀琀 樀甀猀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 氀漀漀欀ഊ> very stable to me. More than adequate for keeping the pig off the ਀㸀 最爀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 琀甀最ⴀ漀昀ⴀ眀愀爀 眀椀琀栀 最爀愀瘀椀琀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 氀漀漀欀猀 琀漀 洀攀 氀椀欀攀 椀昀ഊ> someone brushed against an end, the whole thing would fall down. ਀ഊI've been wondering about that myself, and whether there's a ਀挀漀洀戀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 猀琀愀戀椀氀椀稀攀爀猀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 眀椀搀攀 ∀搀漀最∀ 昀攀攀琀 愀渀搀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀ഊtorsion placed on the axle/crossbar when the whole thing is set up. ਀䰀漀漀欀 愀琀 琀栀攀 攀砀愀最最攀爀愀琀攀搀 挀愀爀攀 眀椀琀栀 眀栀椀挀栀 琀栀攀 樀漀椀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀椀爀 氀愀礀漀甀琀猀ഊare depicted; is there any other way it could work, without a sort of ਀焀甀愀爀琀攀爀 漀爀 漀渀攀ⴀ攀椀最栀琀栀 琀眀椀猀琀 愀猀 琀栀攀 昀攀攀琀 愀爀攀 瀀氀愀渀琀攀搀㼀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 漀欀愀礀Ⰰ 䤀✀洀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀愀礀戀攀 琀栀攀 愀爀琀椀猀琀 眀愀猀渀✀琀ഊmechanically inclined, but you get the idea. ਀ഊAdamantius ਀ഊ> On 4/3/07, Helen Schultz wrote: ਀㸀㸀 䤀 栀愀搀 愀 昀爀椀攀渀搀 洀愀欀攀 洀攀 栀椀猀 爀攀渀搀椀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀愀琀 猀瀀椀琀 猀攀琀ⴀ甀瀀 愀 昀攀眀ഊ>> years ago... you can see it at: http:// ਀㸀㸀 洀攀椀猀琀攀爀椀渀⸀欀愀琀愀爀椀渀愀⸀栀漀洀攀⸀挀漀洀挀愀猀琀⸀渀攀琀⼀瀀攀渀渀猀椀挀㌀　⸀栀琀洀氀⸀  吀栀攀 漀渀氀礀ഊ>> thing I can see the artist left off was those things to hold the ਀㸀㸀 洀攀愀琀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 瀀漀氀攀⸀  䴀礀 猀瀀椀琀 椀猀渀✀琀 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀 昀爀漀洀ഊ>> Scampi, but close, and it all comes apart for easy transport. ਀㸀㸀 䤀✀瘀攀 搀漀渀琀 愀 㘀　⌀ 瀀椀最 漀渀 椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 漀渀攀猀Ⰰ 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ഊ>> ਀㸀㸀 縀縀 䴀攀椀猀琀攀爀椀渀 䬀愀琀愀爀椀渀愀 䠀攀氀攀渀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:08:38 -0700 (PDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䠀攀氀攀渀 匀挀栀甀氀琀稀 㰀洀攀椀猀琀攀爀椀渀　㈀ 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Looking for a woodcut ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䄀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 戀漀氀琀攀搀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 愀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀瀀 眀椀琀栀 眀椀渀最 渀甀琀猀⸀  吀栀攀 瀀椀渀猀  ഊon the sides are at an angle, so the spit won't get knocked off ਀攀愀猀椀氀礀⸀   吀栀攀 氀攀最猀 昀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 搀椀爀琀 焀甀椀琀攀 渀椀挀攀氀礀⸀  䤀琀 猀琀愀渀搀猀 愀戀漀甀琀  ഊ4.5' to 5' tall and is about 4' wide. There are nice little hook ਀琀栀椀渀最猀 ⠀搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀椀爀 爀攀愀氀 渀愀洀攀猀⤀ 琀栀愀琀 栀漀氀搀 琀栀攀 瀀椀最 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀  ഊsquare spit and keep it from spinning.... and then the whole pit is ਀眀椀爀攀搀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀琀 瀀椀攀挀攀⸀  嘀攀爀礀 猀琀愀戀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 眀攀氀挀漀洀攀 琀漀 挀漀洀攀 琀愀欀攀 愀 瀀攀攀欀 愀琀 椀琀⸀  䤀  ഊusually camp in N-01 on St. Lawrence Way... Good Friends Camp (there ਀椀猀 愀 渀椀挀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 猀椀最渀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀爀愀渀挀攀 最愀琀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀縀縀 䴀攀椀猀琀攀爀椀渀 䬀愀琀愀爀椀渀愀 䠀攀氀攀渀攀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ 伀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀 ⴀⴀⴀⴀഊFrom: Saint Phlip ਀ഊI'll hafta get up and look at it next Pennsic. It just doesn't look ਀瘀攀爀礀 猀琀愀戀氀攀 琀漀 洀攀⸀ 䴀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 愀搀攀焀甀愀琀攀 昀漀爀 欀攀攀瀀椀渀最 琀栀攀 瀀椀最 漀昀昀 琀栀攀ഊground in the tug-of-war with gravity, but it looks to me like if ਀猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 戀爀甀猀栀攀搀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀 愀渀 攀渀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 琀栀椀渀最 眀漀甀氀搀 昀愀氀氀 搀漀眀渀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀 㐀⼀㌀⼀　㜀Ⰰ 䠀攀氀攀渀 匀挀栀甀氀琀稀 㰀洀攀椀猀琀攀爀椀渀　㈀ 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I had a friend make me his rendition of that spit set-up a few ਀㸀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀⸀⸀⸀ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 猀攀攀 椀琀 愀琀㨀  栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀ ഊ> meisterin.katarina.home.comcast.net/pennsic30.html. The only thing ਀㸀 䤀 挀愀渀 猀攀攀 琀栀攀 愀爀琀椀猀琀 氀攀昀琀 漀昀昀 眀愀猀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀漀 栀漀氀搀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀  ഊ> onto the spit pole. My spit isn't exactly like the one from ਀㸀 匀挀愀洀瀀椀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 挀氀漀猀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 愀氀氀 挀漀洀攀猀 愀瀀愀爀琀 昀漀爀 攀愀猀礀 琀爀愀渀猀瀀漀爀琀⸀  䤀✀瘀攀  ഊ> dont a 60# pig on it, and smaller ones, as well. ਀㸀ഊ> ~~ Meisterin Katarina Helene ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 䴀愀礀 ㈀　　㜀 　㤀㨀㈀㔀㨀㌀㈀ ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: "Michael Gunter" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 猀瀀椀琀 最爀漀甀瀀 瀀栀漀琀漀猀ഊTo: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org ਀ഊWe have a yahoo groups page with archives of ਀搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 瀀栀漀琀漀猀 漀昀 漀甀爀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀ഊas projects around the world on open fire cooking. ਀ഊJust go here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Medieval-Open-Fire-Cooking/ ਀愀渀搀 樀漀椀渀 甀瀀⸀ 夀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 樀漀椀渀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 椀琀✀猀 洀漀搀攀爀愀琀攀搀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀ഊSPAM. ਀ഊSome cool stuff is in there. ਀ഊGunthar ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ 　㤀 䨀甀氀 ㈀　　㜀 ㈀㈀㨀㔀㘀㨀㈀㘀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䤀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 眀攀戀猀椀琀攀ഊTo: "mk-cooks at midrealm.org" , Cooks within the ਀ऀ匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䌀愀洀攀 愀挀爀漀猀猀 琀栀椀猀 眀攀戀猀椀琀攀 琀栀椀猀 攀瘀攀渀椀渀最ഊThey advertise in Chile Pepper magazine. ਀猀瀀椀琀樀愀挀欀⸀挀漀洀ഊhttp://www.spitjack.com/ ਀ഊJohnnae ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㜀 　㠀㨀㔀㠀㨀㐀㘀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀瀀椀琀ⴀ倀爀漀樀攀挀琀崀 䌀栀愀爀挀漀愀氀 猀琀漀瘀攀猀 昀漀爀 爀漀愀猀琀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀  䠀愀洀瀀琀漀渀ഊ Court ਀吀漀㨀 䌀爀攀愀琀椀渀最 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀瀀椀琀猀 㰀猀瀀椀琀ⴀ瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䤀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 昀漀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 渀漀琀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀ഊTudor Cooks at Hampton Court doing an Appraylere ਀攀愀爀氀椀攀爀 琀漀 匀䌀䄀 䌀漀漀欀猀⸀ഊ ਀圀栀愀琀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀甀琀 栀攀爀攀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 瀀栀漀琀漀ഊof a spit setup over charcoal. ਀ഊhttp://tudorcook.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html ਀ഊIt's after the comments about the Oxford Symposium, so scroll down. ਀ഊJohnnae ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㈀ 䴀愀爀 ㈀　　㠀 　㜀㨀　㠀㨀㐀㠀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: "Eric Campbell" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀瀀椀琀ⴀ倀爀漀樀攀挀琀崀 栀漀琀 愀椀爀 搀爀椀瘀攀渀 猀瀀椀琀猀ഊTo: spit-project at lists.ansteorra.org ਀ഊAn engineer did the rundown on a list I was on. ਀䤀琀 戀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 愀洀漀甀渀琀攀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 甀猀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 猀椀砀 琀椀洀攀猀 琀栀攀 渀漀爀洀愀氀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀ഊwood to get the draft necessary to turn the blades. ਀ഊIt seems that most people who start with this idea end up with a simple ਀眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 樀愀挀欀 漀爀 挀氀漀挀欀 樀愀挀欀 搀甀攀 琀漀 猀椀稀攀 愀渀搀 眀攀椀最栀琀 爀攀猀琀爀椀挀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ഊhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/solvarr/sets/72157601171064881/ ਀ഊI am NOT saying don't try. I'd love to see one of these in action. Later ਀琀漀搀愀礀 䤀✀氀氀 猀攀攀 椀昀 䤀 挀愀渀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 攀渀最椀渀攀攀爀猀 渀漀琀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀ⴀ匀漀氀瘀愀爀爀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. Harris spits-msg 12 of 12 ਀ഊ ਀ഊ