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Period bread pudding and bread pudding like recipes. Many medieval puddings use bread crumbs for thickening. For this file, we are considering puddings which use pieces or cubes of bread, rather than crumbs, flour or other thickeners as "bread puddings".

 

NOTE: See also the files: puddings-msg, bread-msg, French-Toast-art, polenta-msg, porridges-msg.

 

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From: jtn at nutter.cs.vt.edu (Terry Nutter)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Feast Menus

Date: 17 Nov 1993 16:46:58 GMT

 

Greetings, all, from Angharad ver' Rhuawn.

 

Brother Crimthann asks,

>We're also

>talking about using the bread removed from the loaves to make bread pudding

>for dessert; I'm pretty sure that the pudding itself is period England

>(dates anyone?) but what about the ingredients: sugar, raisins, cinnamon,

>etc?

 

There are bread-based puddings, but they aren't much like

modern bread puddings.  On the other hand, bread is one

of the three great thickeners of the high middle ages in

Europe (the others being ground almonds and rice flour).  

Use it to thicken your stew, as Cariadoc suggested.

 

If you want pointers to period bread-based puddings, let

me know.

 

-- Angharad/Terry

 

 

Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 03:59:14 EDT

From: CBlackwill at aol.com

Subject: SC - Documented(?) Bread Pudding

 

I found this recipe in Cariadoc's Miscellany (It's from Ein Buch von guter

Spise), and thought it would be appropriate for the "Bread Pudding' topic.  

From what I can gather, it is very similar to modern bread pudding, sans egg

(though the author does suggest using eggs if another milk besides almond

milk is used).

 

I'll be trying this recipe out on Tuesday, and I'll let you know how it comes

out.  For those of you who have tried it before, any production tips?

 

Balthazar of Blackmoor

 

24. Daz ist auch gut (This is also good)

Nim mandelkern. mache daz in siedeme wazzer. stoz sie und twinge sie durch

ein tuch oder mal sie. nim schoen herte brot. snit die obersten rinden abe

schone und d¸nne. snit dar nach schiben. so du d¸nnest m¸gest. daz beginne

under der –bersten rinden. ieglich schibe sol sin sinewel. v¸ege der schiben

viere zu sammene und snit sie smal als einen riemen. und snit sie dentwerhes

¸ber. so du kleines maht. halt die mandelmilch ¸ber daz fiur. laz sie warm

werden wirf daz brot dar in daz sie dicke werde. halt sie ¸ber daz fiur. laz

sie sieden und gibez in die sch¸zzeln und strauwe ein zucker dar uf. daz

heizzet calcus und gibz hin. Also mache auch ander milich, ob du totern dorzu

tun wilt.

 

 

Take almond kernels. Make that in boiling water. (Blanch them) Pound them and

thrust them through a cloth or grind them. Take fine hearth bread. Cut the

upper crust down fine and thin. Cut thereafter slices, the thinnest that you

can that begin under the upper crust. Each slice should be round. Join the

slices four together and cut them small as a strap and cut them crosswise

over, so you make (them) small. Hold the almond milk over the fire. Let it

become warm. Throw the bread therein so that it becomes thick. Hold it over

the fire. Let it boil and give it in the bowls and strew a sugar thereon.

That is called calcus and give out. Also you may make other milk too, if you

want to add egg yolks thereto.

 

 

Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:42:16 -0500

From: Daniel Myers <edouard at medievalcookery.com>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] bread puddings

To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

 

On Feb 26, 2005, at 1:36 AM, Stefan li Rous wrote:

> Does anyone have any particular period bread pudding

> recipes/redactions which they like?

 

Here are a few period recipes I found.  I like making a variation of

the first one - leaving out the marrow and substituting butter and milk

for the suet.

 

[A new booke of Cookerie, John Murrell (1615)]

To make an Italian Pudding. Take a Penny white Loafe, pare off the

crust, and cut it in square pieces like vnto great Dyes, mince a pound

of Beefe Suit small: take halfe a pound of Razins of the Sunne, stone

them and mingle them together, and season them with Sugar, Rosewater,

and Nutmegge, wet these things in foure Egges, and stirre them very

tenderly for breaking the Bread: then put it into a Dish, and pricke

three or foure pieces of Marrow, and some sliced Dates: put it into an

Ouen hot enough for a Chewet: if your Ouen be too hot, it will burne:

if too colde, it will be heauy: when it is bakte scrape on Sugar, and

serue it hot at dinner, but not at Supper.

 

 

[Das Kuchbuch der Sabina Welserin, V. Armstrong (trans.)]

44 To make a wine pudding. Take grated bread crumbs, brown them in fat

until they become crisp, put in good wine and egg yolks in it and

sweeten to taste.

 

54 To make an egg pudding. Beat eggs and milk together and brown bread

crumbs in fat and pour the milk and eggs therein, and let it cook and

salt it.

 

127 A good bread pudding. Take grated white bread, stir it in a pan

with meat broth and let it cook together, so that it becomes a mushy.

After that take four egg yolks, which have been beaten with cold broth,

and let it cook together.

 

136 A bread tart. Take white bread and grate it, take cream, stir it

together, so that it becomes thick like a pudding. Take six egg yolks,

beat them well and with spices thereon, put everything together in a

pastry shell, and bake it like other tarts.

 

- Doc

 

 

Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:25:53 -0400

From: Johnna Holloway <johnna at sitka.engin.umich.edu>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Dessert board

To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>

 

Michael Gunter wrote: snipped Although I am curious that I've

> never found a period bread pudding recipe. This struck me as kind of strange

> considering the love of bread dishes and custards. Have I missed a bread

> recipe someplace?  snipped

> Any other suggestions on a nice dessert? I'd do the research but I'm kind

> of busy at work and just being lazy. Besides, I think a discussion  

> on period and non-period sweet dishes would be fun.

>

> Gunthar

 

To make an Italian Pudding.

 

Take a Penny white Loafe, pare off the

crust, and cut it in square pieces like vnto great Dyes, mince a pound

of Beefe Suit small: take halfe a pound of Razins of the Sunne, stone

them and mingle them together, and season them with Sugar, Rosewater,

and Nutmegge, wet these things in foure Egges, and stirre them very

tenderly for breaking the Bread: then put it into a Dish, and pricke

three or foure pieces of Marrow, and some sliced Dates: put it into an

Ouen hot enough for a Chewet: if your Ouen be too hot, it will burne: if

too colde, it will be heauy: when it is bakte scrape on Sugar, and serue

it hot at dinner, but not at Supper.

 

A NEVV BOOKE of Cookerie.

/http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~gloning/1615murr.htm /

 

There are other recipes out there too. There's Chireseye which

is described in Stefan's files in

desserts-msg ? 1/11/06  Medieval and SCA dessert recipes. Sweets.

 

Pretty puddings are featured at Ivan Day's site

http://www.historicfood.com/English%20Puddings.htm

 

Johnnae

 

 

Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:41:36 -0400

From: "Guenievre de Monmarche" <guenievre at erminespot.com>

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Dessert board

To: "'Cooks within the SCA'" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>

 

Another bread pudding, if you want earlier...

 

Taillis

 

64. Garlins/Taillis: Taillis. Take figs, grapes, boiled almond milk,

cracknels, galettes and white bread crusts cut into small cubes and boil

these last items in your milk, with saffron to give it colour, and sugar,

and set all of this to boil until it is thick enough to slice. Set it out in

bowls.

 

The Viandier of Taillevent, p. 286

 

Gueni?vre

 

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