medieval-dips-msg - 11/22/18 Medieval dips. Appetizers. NOTE: See also the files: Gamblng-Snaks-art, p-snack-foods-msg, Vigil-Snacks-art, cheese-goo-msg, Cheese-Balls-art, Moretum-Rec-art, Bo-Quail-Eggs-art, eggs-stuffed-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:50:52 -0400 From: Suey Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Silq bi-laban (spinach and sesame [sic] dip) To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org >>>> There seems to be a translation issue, Silq bi laban would be spinach and yogurt. Laban isyogurt not sesame. I'd consider this a sauce or side dish, not an entree. This would seem to be from Al Baghdadi Chapter VII: On pickles, relishes and condiments http://www.kal69.dial.pipex.com/shop/pages/isbn420.pdf has the index http://www.kal69.dial.pipex.com/shop/system/index.html I don't have a copy of this, but perhaps someone can look it up for you. Hope this helps. Ranvaig <<<< Thank you so much Ranvaig for the lead. The planners of the dinner will be thrilled to know that this is another 13th C recipe. I do not have a copy of it but will see if someone can email me the page number before the recipes go to print. You are absolutely right, there is no sesame but garlic in this recipe. We plan to serve it as an appetizer. Recently, all my files were riped out by a virus and I thought did not have a backup of the recipe. By pure chance I found my Spanish translation of it the other day, which roughly translated back into English is: *Silq bi-laban (spinach and garlic dip)* * Heat a frying pan and add olive oil. Add mashed garlic and stir for 10 seconds. Add spinach, lower the heat and cover for one minute. Stir, cover and leave it another minute or until the spinach leaves wilt. Let it cool. Make a puree of this mixture. Put it in a bowl and add yogurt (1/4 in comparison to the cream added) and sour cream, lemon juice, salt and pepper. Mix it well and refrigerate. Serve with pita bread. Sue Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:25:52 -0700 From: lilinah at earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Silq bi-laban (spinach and sesame dip) To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org Ranvaig wrote: > There seems to be a translation issue, Silq bi > laban would be spinach and yogurt. Laban is > yogurt not sesame. I'd consider this a sauce or > side dish, not an entree. Actually, Silq is chard. In translations of recipes, spinach seems to be a common substitute in America, although chard is often readily available. > This would seem to be from Al Baghdadi Chapter > VII: On pickles, relishes and condiments From al-Baghdadi (trans. Arberry): Take beet with large ribs; cut off the ends of the leaves and cut in to pieces a span long. Wash, and boil in salt and water until cooked. Dry and put into Persian milk and garlic, sprinkle with sesame and serve. NOTE: Silq is not beet, it's chard. This is an error on the part of Arberry. From the Description of Familiar Food (trans. Perry): Take big Swiss chard stalks and cut off their leaves and throw them away. Cut the stalks the size of four fingers and wash them. Then boil them in salted water until done. Take them out of the water and spread out on a woven tray until well dried off. Put them in yogurt that has been mixed with garlic, of the sort that has been boiled as previously, and sprinkle a little nigella and fresh mint leaves on it. NOTE: The Book of the Description of Familiar Foods incorporates a version of al-Baghdadi that has the original plus 67 recipes (for a total of about 160 recipes), chapters from other works (such as the one on Lenten food), individual recipes from other sources, and a confectioner's manual, for a total of about 420 recipes. NOTE: There are still modern recipes for silq that instruct the cook to cut off the leaves and cook the stalks. -- Urtatim (that's err-tah-TEEM) the persona formerly known as Anahita Edited by Mark S. Harris medieval-dips-msg 3 of 3