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Period marinating of meats.

 

NOTE: See also the files: pickled-meats-msg, roast-meats-msg, cheap-meats-msg, sauces-msg, Braised-Beef-art, cooking-oils-msg, broths-msg, roast-pork-msg, beer-in-food-msg.

 

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Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:58:06 -0400

From: Philip & Susan Troy <troy at asan.com>

To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] marinating meat

 

Debra Hense wrote:

> How common is it in medieval recipes to specify

> that the meat be marinated in oils or sauces

> before cooking?

>

> I thought that most of the adjustments for the

> humors came from the cooking methods and

> the sauces added or stewed in, rather than

> marinated and grilled or baked.

>

> I ran into this because a fellow judge told an

> entrant that to improve their entry they should

> have marinated the meat in the sauce before

> cooking it.  Not that it appeared in the recipe

> instructions... But she said she had seen one

> recipe where it was done, but couldn't tell

> what the source was.

 

Wasn't there a cormarye recipe posted, like, yesterday or the day

before?  This is a pork loin dish marinated for several hours in things

like red wine, crushed garlic, carway seed, and coriander seed prior to

roasting. I forget what else is involved (pepper?), but it's an

excellent dish. IIRC, it is from The Forme of Cury. That may well be the

source that the judge was referring to. However, there doesn't seem to

be huge scads of evidence to suggest that this was widespread practice

in other dishes. It occurs to me that middle-class people living in

towns, for example, frequently bought their sauces ready-made, and I

expect it would call for a much greater volume of sauce to use it as a

marinade (what with there being no plastic bags and such).

 

You might also make a claim for Tarpeian Lamb, which is an Apician dish

for which a paste is made from pounded onion and spices (kinda like a

curry paste, actually, except uncooked before using) which is spread on

the meat, then roasted. The meat is then finished in liquid, IIRC, and

the onion-y crust presumably dissolves back into the sauce. But there's

no extensive period of marination.

 

Overall, though, apart from a simple lack of too many recipes calling

for marination, at least as far as I know, it would seem to have been

preferred practice in most of period Europe to parboil certain meats

before larding them for roasting, or else boiling, then frying.

 

Adamantius

 

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