lunch-feasts-msg - 4/18/10 Ideas and recipes for a warm weather lunch feast with limited kitchen facilities. NOTE: See also the files: picnic-feasts-msg, Picnic-Basket-art, pies-msg, Platina-Lunch-art, hot-weth-fsts-msg, finger-fd-fst-art, dayboards-msg, pickled-foods-msg, meat-pies-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:11:30 -0400 From: Elaine Koogler Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] lunch ideas- feedback To: Cooks within the SCA On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:05 AM, tudorpot at gmail.com wrote: <<< I have volunteered to create a lunch for 50 at an event in June, warm weather here in Ealdomere. This will be my first contribution to my canton, in this my first year in the SCA. The budget is $100- which may go to $150 if I whine a little. Is this budget doable? Suggestions would be appreciated. I have been told that period food is not necessary, but I would like to have one or two period items. I only have one period cookbook- Take a Thousand Eggs. Theodora >>> Some years back, we used a sage sauce recipe from Du fait de cuisine with great success. You can make the sauce up ahead of time...it's actually better to do this because it allows the seasonings to meld. We served it with cold chicken, again cooked ahead of time. *Froide sauge--Cold Sage Sauce*?*Du fait de cuisine, #49*,from *Early French Cookery.* * * Et pour vous donner a entendre comme vous feres la froide sauge si faictes que vous haies grant foison de percy, grant foison de salvy, et qui?ilz soient bien deliez et laves et esgoutes et broyes tresbien, et si en broyes tant grant quantite qu?elle soit bien verd; et quant elles seront bien broyees si les mesles et mectes avecques vostre pain. Et puis prennes voz espices, c?est assavoir gingibre blanc, granne et du poyvre et coiles tout cela, et agoustes du vin aigre et du sel et le coules trebien espes. Et quant vostre grein sera bien cuit si le tires hors sur belles postz et tables belles et nectes, et puis partisses ledit grein, c?est assavoir la poullaille d?une part et d?autre part les pieces du porcellot, et tant que quant viendra au drecier si mectes en ung chescun platz quatre pieces duit grein, c?est assavoir ung quartier de poullaille et une piecete dudit porcellot sus et en la moytie d?un chescun plat, et en l?autre partie autretant; et en chescun plat en l?une part si mectes de la calaminee et l?autre part a couste de la froide sauge. Et puis prennes du blanc des oefs et les tailles par menuz dez, puis ensemes sus lesditz platz par dessus la friode sauge; et de la dragiee mectes sur la calunafree.** Redaction: Scully. 1 cup chopped fresh parsley 1/2-3/4 cup fresh sage 1 cup hot chicken bouillion pinch saffron 1/4 cup white wine vinegar 2 hard-boiled egg yolks 1/2 tsp salt 1/2 tsp ginger 1/4 tsp grains of paradise 1/4 tsp. cinnamon 2 slices white bread, crusts removed, torn into small pieces 1. Process parsley & sage in blender with chicken broth or bouillion. Blend slowly. 2. Cook on low heat. Add saffron. 3. Add vinegar to mashed hard-boiled egg yolks and blend with herb mixture 4. Add spices 5. Add bread a little at a time until thick consistency is reached. 6. Taste, correct spices, remove from heat and cool. If you have a Restaurant Depot anywhere near you, they usually have boneless, skinless chicken breasts for around $1.28/lb...if you buy a 40# case. We have found that it works well to purchase the 40# case, and, if you only need 20#, it's not hard to find people who are willing to puchase the remaining 20#...it comes in 10# bags, so it's easy to split up! Kiri Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:21:12 -0500 From: "Terry Decker" Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] lunch ideas- feedback To: "Cooks within the SCA" <<< I have volunteered to create a lunch for 50 at an event in June, warm weather here in Ealdomere. This will be my first contribution to my canton, in this my first year in the SCA. The budget is $100- which may go to $150 if I whine a little. Is this budget doable? Suggestions would be appreciated. I have been told that period food is not necessary, but I would like to have one or two period items. I only have one period cookbook- Take a Thousand Eggs. Theodora >>> $2-3 per person is workable. June and warm, I'm going to assume this is going to be a tourney lunch with limited kitchen. I would consider melon, fruit compost, cold relatively thinly sliced meat (beef roast or ham, you need roughly 12-13 pounds), pepper sauce, garlic sauce and mustard for the meat, a soup (say, zanzarelli or a brodo of chickpeas), two types of tart or torte (sweet spinach and bolognese, perhaps, 7 each), assorted breads (15-16 pounds, cut before serving for portion control). All of this can be prepared in advance and, other than the soup which would need to be reheated, served cold. The mustard and compost need to be prepared well in advance so the flavors will meld. Bread can be baked a couple days ahead. If you do roast, cook it medium rare and slice it just before serving to keep it from drying out. Bear Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:22:48 -0700 From: David Friedman Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] lunch ideas- feedback To: Cooks within the SCA <<< Suggestions would be appreciated. I have been told that period food is not necessary, but I would like to have one or two period items. I only have one period cookbook- Take a Thousand Eggs. >>> You also have an internet connection. Our Miscellany has several hundred worked out period recipes, and other people have period recipes online as well. http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Medieval/miscellany_pdf/Miscellany.htm I think it should be doable--just look for period recipes that use relatively inexpensive ingredients, such as chicken, assuming you have reasonable prices on that where you are, and eggs, and bread crumbs, and ... . Some of the things we're fond of that would work well are Barmakiya, gingerbrede (not what moderns call gingerbread--texture of fudge, easy to make, keeps, lots of people like it), Khushkananaj (medieval islamic pastry), Badinjan Muhassa (medieval islamic dip, serve with pita, as an extra bonus its vegetarian). You don't say whether you have a kitchen on site or will be bringing cold food--all of the above fit the latter situation. -- David/Cariadoc www.daviddfriedman.com Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:59:15 -0600 From: Susan Lin Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] lunch ideas- feedback To: Cooks within the SCA The budget should be completely doable. Depending on your kitchen facilities I would keep things simple. Bear gave you many great ideas. I like making sweet breads (banana, zucchini, pumpkin, etc.) they're not particularly period but they disappear whenever I make them. Back in the East I wasn't allowed to make a meal or a sideboard without honey butter for the bread - I think it might have been a rule or something!! Tarts work exceedingly well and can be served at room temperature. Good luck and have fun. Planning is key and making whatever you can in advance to make the prep closer in time more manageable. Shoshanna Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:35:21 -0700 From: "Celia des Archier" Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] lunch ideas- feedback To: "'Cooks within the SCA'" Meat (or chicken) pies (along the lines of "pasties") were always popular back when I was doing field lunches. I made them for a demo once in tart shells rather than large pie shells so that they were individual, in the hand servings. I've since been told (this was more than a decade ago) that the recipes I was using were more "perioid" than period, so rather than share those specific recipes I'd echo what many here have said... try the flori-thingy :) ... there should be lots of recipes there for something that will serve. They're relatively easy to make in a medium or large muffin pan, and they're relatively cheap (I always used ground beef and chicken and made two types), but are also very hearty. And, of course, you can make vegetarian ones also if need be, although I have no idea if those will be period, but I suspect you can find something that will serve. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:34:36 EDT From: Bronwynmgn at aol.com Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] lunch ideas- feedback To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org tudorpot at gmail.com writes: <> $2/person can be doable for lunch depending on local food prices, judicious recipe choices, and your ability to shop around. I could probably pull it off here, but I don't know what your food prices are like. It also depends on what is being looked for - are we talking a light snack, or substantial food? I've seen lunches be either. $3 would certainly make it easier, but I'd suggest doing some legwork to be able to present to your financial backers why you feel you need more. <> Anything that will use local, in-season produce will be cheaper. At least around here, that would be peas, greens, beans, berries, etc. Things like apples or root veggies, which are more fall crops, would be more expensive. One thing to consider - are they expecting things that can be put on a plate and eaten with fingers, or do people expect to need a bowl and spoon or fork? That can make a big difference in the recipes chosen. Also, what type of cooking facilities will you have available, how much help, and how much time from when you can get on site until when you need to serve? If you have minimal facilities, no help, or can only be on site for 2 hours before you serve, you need to choose things that can basically be prepped ahead, plated, and served; if you have better facilities, more time, and more help, you may be able to cook things fresh. My personal rule when cooking for any SCA event is to use period foods only; we're supposed to be educating people, after all. But it's certainly not a requirement. Brangwayna Morgan Shire of Silver Rylle, East Kingdom Lancaster, PA Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:20:26 -0400 From: devra at aol.com Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] lunch suggestions To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org Pickles are a popular addition to a lunch board, especially if there is fighting. And they can be gotten pre-cut in spears relatively cheaply. If serving pies, an empanada press, which cuts the pie dough and squeezes the thing shut, is a great help, and they're much easier to serve and eat than a slice of pie. Easier to make than the muffin tin ones, too. Good vegetarian pies: Tarte in Ember Day (onion), spinache, pea and artichoke. (Yeah, sounds odd, but tastes good.) Less period, but very tasty - pork and apple pie, which is good hot and cold. (No I don't have documentation. I sell the books, I don't read 'em....joke, it's a joke, really it's a joke.) Devra Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:41:09 -0600 From: Susan Lin Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] lunch suggestions To: Cooks within the SCA I did a large sideboard/lunch where I made many different kinds of handpies (among other things). I cut them in different shapes and folded them by hand. they were not expensive and with the different shapes I could tell what they were without having to crack them open. This helped a great deal since the Baronness was allergic to apples and all I had to do was tell her to stay away from that particular shape (they were labeled as well). I didn't use any type of press - but, you can ask around to see if anyone has one or two you could borrow - I know I have several in several different sizes that would be available if you lived anywhere near me. That was when I fed 120 people for $300. Shoshanna Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:32:45 -0500 From: "Terry Decker" Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Dayboards To: "Cooks within the SCA" <<< In the past we have served lunches with a price on each item. I know that for some events, the dayboard is included in the event fee, but we aren't used to doing it that here. How do people handle charging for food served buffet style? Do you break things down to portions and put a price on each portion? One fixed price for everything? I'd be inclined to put a donation basket out, but the autocrat said not. Ranvaig >>> The three pricing options that come to mind are per item, per plate, and all you can eat. Since one can't control portioning on the latter, the first two are a better bet. You might wish to consider using both per item and per plate. Single items that sell well as snacks could be individual priced per unit for the casual muncher while a more substantial meal (consisting of a main dish and some of the individual items) could be sold to those who want it. You would need to withhold some of the individual stock for the plates, but as you run out of the main dish or if you find it's not going to sell, the reserve can be moved over to ala carte. I would price the plates to be a little less expensive than the individual items as an inducement. Bear Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:30:03 -0400 From: devra at aol.com Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] lunch fund raisers To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org I like small empanadas with a pork and apple or pies of paris filling. They're neat to eat, can be baked the day before, freeze well, and taste good cold or hot. Since they're small, you probably couldn't ask more than 50 cents per pie-let, though. And they do take a lot of work, mushing the pies together. However, the work can all be done well in advance. Devra Edited by Mark S. Harris lunch-feasts-msg 7 of 7