high-alt-ckng-msg - 9/5/09 ਀ഊCooking medieval food and feasts at high altitudes. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: headcooks-msg, hot-weth-fsts-msg, kitch-toolbox-msg, p-menus-msg, p-feasts-msg, feast-decor-msg, bread-for-fsts-msg, fd-transport-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:20:09 -0700 (GMT-07:00) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 猀洀挀挀氀甀渀攀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] High Altitude Cooking (was Cooking In Atenveldt ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ伀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊFrom: "Jonathan and Rebecca Barber" ਀圀攀✀瘀攀 琀攀猀琀ⴀ挀漀漀欀攀搀 椀琀 漀渀挀攀 愀渀搀 洀愀搀攀 猀漀洀攀 洀漀搀椀昀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  一漀眀 眀攀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 ഊtest cook it up there (Erud Sul is Flagstaff, which sits around ਀㘀㔀　　ⴀ㜀　　　 昀攀攀琀⤀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀琀 琀栀愀琀 愀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀 猀漀 椀琀 ഊwill be an interesting experiement the first time! ਀㰀㰀㰀ഊ ਀匀瀀攀愀欀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 ⸀⸀⸀ 椀渀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀Ⰰ 琀栀椀渀最猀 眀椀氀氀 琀愀欀攀 ഊlonger to cook, especially boiled things. For example, a pot of ਀瘀攀最最椀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀愀欀攀Ⰰ 猀愀礀Ⰰ 琀攀渀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 愀琀 猀攀愀 氀攀瘀攀氀 眀椀氀氀 ഊtake around 2-5 minutes longer at altitude. Baked goods (such as ਀挀甀猀琀愀爀搀猀 愀渀搀 瀀椀攀猀⤀ 眀椀氀氀 愀氀猀漀 琀愀欀攀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 氀漀渀最攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀 䤀✀搀 栀椀最栀氀礀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 戀愀欀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 戀爀攀愀搀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀 愀渀搀 樀甀猀琀 戀爀椀渀最椀渀最 椀琀 ഊalong, if that's an option. Adjusting bread recipes to account for ਀愀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀 ⠀愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 氀愀挀欀 漀昀 栀甀洀椀搀椀琀礀⤀ 挀愀渀 戀攀 琀爀椀挀欀礀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀 椀昀 礀漀甀 ഊlike, I can put you in touch with people who have done it successfully. ਀  ⠀䤀✀洀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀氀礀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 戀爀攀愀搀ⴀ挀栀愀氀氀攀渀最攀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 琀漀 漀瘀攀爀挀漀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 ഊhandicap .) ਀ഊFor roasted meats and such, you will probably not notice any difference ਀椀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀椀洀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀爀眀攀渀ഊLong-time resident of the Barony of Caerthe, Outlands ਀⠀䐀攀渀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䌀伀 愀⸀欀⸀愀⸀ ∀吀栀攀 䴀椀氀攀ⴀ䠀椀最栀 䌀椀琀礀∀⤀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀ 眀栀漀 愀搀搀猀 琀栀愀琀 洀愀渀礀 漀昀 漀甀爀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 栀攀氀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 渀攀愀爀戀礀 ഊmountains, at 7,000-9-000 ft. :) ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㔀 䨀愀渀 ㈀　　㔀 ㈀㌀㔀㐀㨀㔀㠀 ⴀ　㜀　　ഊFrom: Sheila McClune ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 刀攀㨀 䠀椀最栀 䄀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀ഊ>> -----Original Message----- ਀㸀㸀 䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䨀漀渀愀琀栀愀渀 愀渀搀 刀攀戀攀挀挀愀 䈀愀爀戀攀爀∀ 㰀戀愀爀戀攀爀 愀琀 爀甀渀戀漀砀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊ> Followup question - I just found out that the site has only convection ਀㸀 漀瘀攀渀猀 ⴀ 搀漀 猀琀愀渀搀愀爀搀 挀漀渀瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀猀 愀瀀瀀氀礀 漀爀 搀漀攀猀 琀栀攀 愀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀 洀愀欀攀 愀 ഊ> difference there? ਀㰀㰀㰀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀 ⸀⸀⸀ 攀洀戀愀爀爀愀猀猀椀渀最 愀猀 椀琀 椀猀 琀 愀搀洀椀琀 椀琀Ⰰ 䤀✀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 甀猀攀搀 愀ഊconvection oven . I know there are other Outlanders on ਀琀栀椀猀 氀椀猀琀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀 ⸀⸀⸀ 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 栀愀瘀攀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 愀爀攀愀㼀ഊ ਀㸀㸀㸀㸀ഊ> Our current plan is to get the bread made and I may well make the ਀㸀 猀瀀愀攀琀稀氀攀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀 ⠀㄀㈀　　 昀攀攀琀 漀爀 猀漀⤀⸀  圀攀✀氀氀 猀攀攀⸀  圀攀✀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 琀攀猀琀 ഊ> cook the whole thing up there just to see. ਀㰀㰀㰀ഊ ਀䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀攀 ∀洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 猀瀀愀攀琀稀氀攀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀 愀渀搀 栀攀愀琀 椀琀 椀渀 愀 爀漀愀猀琀攀爀∀ 瀀氀愀渀ഊsounds like a great idea. :) So does test cooking at the feast ਀愀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀⸀  䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 猀琀漀爀椀攀猀 漀昀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 最漀渀攀 漀昀昀ഊbackpacking in the mountains at 10,000+ feet and then wondered why they ਀眀攀爀攀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 猀漀 洀甀挀栀 琀爀漀甀戀氀攀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀瀀愀最栀攀琀琀椀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀℀ഊ ਀㸀㸀㸀㸀ഊ> Oh, do cookies have any modifications needed? ਀㰀㰀㰀㰀ഊYes, generally when I make cookies, I add a little more flour (1-2 ਀琀愀戀氀攀猀瀀漀漀渀猀 瀀攀爀 猀琀愀渀搀愀爀搀 戀愀琀挀栀 漀昀 挀栀漀挀漀氀愀琀攀 挀栀椀瀀 挀漀漀欀椀攀猀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀⤀⸀ഊIf you don't, they spread out and get really flat. You'll also need to ਀挀漀漀欀 琀栀攀洀 昀漀爀 愀 洀椀渀甀琀攀 漀爀 琀眀漀 氀漀渀最攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䄀爀眀攀ഊCaerthe, Outlands ਀⠀䐀攀渀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䌀伀⤀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:22:26 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀吀攀爀爀礀 䐀攀挀欀攀爀∀ 㰀琀⸀搀⸀搀攀挀欀攀爀 愀琀 眀漀爀氀搀渀攀琀⸀愀琀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] High Altitude Cooking (was Cooking In ਀ऀ䄀琀攀渀瘀攀氀搀琀ഊTo: "Cooks within the SCA" ਀ഊ> Followup question - I just found out that the site has only convection ਀㸀 漀瘀攀渀猀 ⴀ 搀漀 猀琀愀渀搀愀爀搀 挀漀渀瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀猀 愀瀀瀀氀礀 漀爀 搀漀攀猀 琀栀攀 愀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀 洀愀欀攀 愀ഊ> difference there? ਀㸀ഊ> Our current plan is to get the bread made and I may well make the spaetzle ਀㸀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀 ⠀㄀㈀　　 昀攀攀琀 漀爀 猀漀⤀⸀  圀攀✀氀氀 猀攀攀⸀  圀攀✀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 琀攀猀琀 挀漀漀欀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀ഊ> thing up there just to see. ਀㸀ഊ> Oh, do cookies have any modifications needed? ਀㸀ഊ> Ru ਀ഊThe differences in cooking at altitude are caused by the pressure ਀搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀椀愀氀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 愀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 愀瀀瀀氀礀 琀漀 愀氀氀 漀瘀攀渀猀 愀渀搀Ⰰഊgenerally, all foods and cooking methods. You will need to alter ਀琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀椀洀攀猀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀爀礀 ㌀　　　 昀攀攀琀 椀渀 愀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀⸀ഊ ਀䈀攀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:11:23 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䴀愀爀琀椀渀 䜀⸀ 䐀椀攀栀氀∀ 㰀洀搀椀攀栀氀 愀琀 渀愀挀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Re: High Altitude Cooking ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀㸀 䘀漀氀氀漀眀甀瀀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 ⴀ 䤀 樀甀猀琀 昀漀甀渀搀 漀甀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 猀椀琀攀 栀愀猀ഊ>> only convection ovens - do standard conversions apply ਀㸀㸀 漀爀 搀漀攀猀 琀栀攀 愀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀 洀愀欀攀 愀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀栀攀爀攀㼀ഊ ਀圀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀椀渀最 愀 猀漀洀攀眀栀愀琀 挀愀氀椀戀爀愀琀攀搀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊtemperature, probably not. ਀ഊThe rules about high altitude cooking apply to foods cooked ਀椀渀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最 眀愀琀攀爀 ⸀⸀⸀ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 ⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀     吀栀攀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 ⸀⸀⸀ 椀猀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀ഊ changes with altitude. As you go higher, the boiling ਀     琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 搀攀挀爀攀愀猀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀     䄀琀 猀攀愀 氀攀瘀攀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 椀猀 ㈀㄀㈀ 搀攀最爀攀攀猀ഊ F (100 degrees C). ਀ഊ As a general rule, the temperature decreases by ਀     ㄀ 搀攀最爀攀攀 䘀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀爀礀 㔀㐀　 昀攀攀琀 漀昀 愀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀ഊ (0.56 degrees C for every 165 meters). ਀ഊ On top of Pike's Peak, at 14,000 feet, the boiling point ਀     漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 椀猀 ㄀㠀㜀 搀攀最爀攀攀猀 䘀 ⠀㠀㘀 搀攀最爀攀攀猀 䌀⤀⸀ 匀漀 瀀愀猀琀愀 漀爀ഊ potatoes cooked at sea level are seeing 25 degrees more ਀     栀攀愀琀 琀栀愀渀 瀀愀猀琀愀 漀爀 瀀漀琀愀琀漀攀猀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 漀渀 倀椀欀攀✀猀 倀攀愀欀⸀ഊ The lower heat means a longer cooking time is needed. ਀ഊQuoted from How Stuff Works: ਀∀圀栀礀 搀漀 洀愀渀礀 昀漀漀搀猀 栀愀瘀攀 䠀椀最栀 䄀氀琀椀琀甀搀攀 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 䤀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀㼀∀ഊhttp://science.howstuffworks.com/question63.htm ਀ഊIn the case of a 10,000 ft. elevation, water boils at ਀㄀㤀㌀⸀㔀 搀攀最爀攀攀猀 䘀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 ㈀㄀㈀ 搀攀最爀攀攀猀 䘀⸀ഊ ਀㸀㸀 伀甀爀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀 瀀氀愀渀 椀猀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 洀愀搀攀 愀渀搀 䤀 洀愀礀ഊ>> well make the spaetzle at home (1200 feet or so). ਀㸀㸀 圀攀✀氀氀 猀攀攀⸀  圀攀✀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 琀攀猀琀 挀漀漀欀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 琀栀椀渀最ഊ>> up there just to see. ਀ഊI know that spaetzle is cooked in boiling water -- the ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 甀猀攀 猀愀礀猀 琀漀 眀愀椀琀 昀漀爀 椀琀 琀漀 爀椀猀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀⸀ഊ ਀䌀愀渀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 猀愀礀 琀栀攀 ∀爀椀猀攀 琀漀 琀漀瀀∀ 挀漀洀瀀攀渀猀愀琀攀猀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀氀礀ഊfor water temperature? ਀ഊ> I think the "make the spaetzle at home and heat it in a ਀㸀 爀漀愀猀琀攀爀∀ 瀀氀愀渀 猀漀甀渀搀猀 氀椀欀攀 愀 最爀攀愀琀 椀搀攀愀⸀ 㨀⤀  匀漀 搀漀攀猀 琀攀猀琀ഊ> cooking at the feast altitude. ਀㸀 䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 猀琀漀爀椀攀猀 漀昀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 最漀渀攀 漀昀昀ഊ> backpacking in the mountains at 10,000+ feet and then ਀㸀 眀漀渀搀攀爀攀搀 眀栀礀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 猀漀 洀甀挀栀 琀爀漀甀戀氀攀 最攀琀琀椀渀最ഊ> the spaghetti to cook! ਀ഊP.S. I hope nobody becomes upset upon hearing that the ਀琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最 眀愀琀攀爀 椀猀 渀漀琀 愀 挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀嘀椀渀挀攀渀稀漀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:32:25 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀吀攀爀爀礀 䐀攀挀欀攀爀∀ 㰀琀⸀搀⸀搀攀挀欀攀爀 愀琀 愀琀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] baking at high altitudes ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䰀漀眀攀爀 愀椀爀 瀀爀攀猀猀甀爀攀 挀愀甀猀攀猀 猀漀洀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 椀渀 戀愀欀椀渀最⸀  刀椀猀攀 漀挀挀甀爀猀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 ഊdough traps CO2 in the strands of gluten. Vigorous CO2 production can cause ਀漀甀琀最愀猀猀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 搀漀甀最栀 爀攀搀甀挀椀渀最 琀栀攀 爀椀猀攀⸀  䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 眀椀氀氀 猀愀礀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 ഊhaven't had much problem with baking basic white bread at altitude with a ਀瀀爀漀瀀攀爀氀礀 猀琀漀爀攀搀 礀攀愀猀琀⸀  圀栀攀渀 䤀 攀渀挀漀甀渀琀攀爀 猀甀挀栀 愀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀Ⰰ 䤀✀氀氀 挀栀攀挀欀 琀栀攀 ഊbaking at altitude information in The Joy of Cooking. ਀ഊOne needs to be even more careful with chemical leavens at altitude. In ਀昀愀挀琀 愀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 爀攀搀甀挀攀 琀栀攀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 挀栀攀洀椀挀愀氀 氀攀愀瘀攀渀猀 愀戀漀瘀攀 ㌀　　　 ഊft. ਀ഊTemperature control also becomes more critical at altitude. Water boils at ਀氀攀猀猀 琀栀愀渀 ㈀㄀㈀ 搀攀攀最爀攀攀猀 䘀 ⠀㄀　　 搀攀最爀攀攀猀 䌀⤀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 挀愀渀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 愀 搀爀礀 漀爀 愀渀 ഊunderbaked product. ਀ഊThe problem with a pressure cooker is that it retains moisture which would ਀攀昀昀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 焀甀愀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀爀甀猀琀 愀渀搀 挀爀甀洀戀 漀昀 戀爀攀愀搀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 愀渀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 ഊidea that might just work for some kinds of bake goods. ਀ഊBear ਀ഊ======== ਀匀栀漀猀栀愀渀渀愀 猀愀椀搀㨀ഊ<<< I'll see if I can lighten it up some and I'll post my success or failure ਀眀栀椀挀栀攀瘀攀爀 椀琀 椀猀⸀  䄀琀 漀瘀攀爀 愀 洀椀氀攀 甀瀀 礀攀愀猀琀 搀漀攀猀 猀漀洀攀 猀琀爀愀渀最攀 猀琀甀昀昀 猀漀 眀栀漀ഊknows! >>> ਀ഊYou mentioned this before in another message as well but you also ਀洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 搀爀礀㼀 挀漀漀氀㼀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀氀猀漀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀渀搀 䤀 眀愀猀  眀漀渀搀攀爀椀渀最 ഊif it was the dryness or the altitude which was bothering the yeasts. ਀䐀漀攀猀 猀琀愀爀琀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 洀漀爀攀 礀攀愀猀琀 渀漀琀 猀漀氀瘀攀 琀栀椀猀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀㼀 伀爀  椀猀 椀琀 氀攀猀猀 琀栀愀琀 ഊthe yeast aren't multiplying but that they don't put out as much CO2? ਀䈀攀愀爀Ⰰ 漀琀栀攀爀 戀愀欀攀爀猀㼀 愀渀礀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀㼀 䤀 洀椀最栀琀 栀愀瘀攀  琀栀漀甀最栀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 氀漀眀攀爀 愀椀爀 ഊpressure might make the generated CO2 go further and puff up the bread ਀洀漀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 洀愀渀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 䤀 最甀攀猀猀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 猀漀氀瘀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 戀礀 甀猀椀渀最 愀  瀀爀攀猀猀甀爀攀 ഊcooker, but I guess that doesn't work for baking... ਀ഊStefan ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ栀椀最栀ⴀ愀氀琀ⴀ挀欀渀最ⴀ洀猀最ऀ㔀 漀昀 㔀ഊ ਊ