headcooks-msg - 10/9/08 ਀ഊAdvice for SCA headcooks. Feastocrats. ਀ഊNo one should have to go on counseling after they run a feast. -Sianan ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: feasts-msg, feast-menus-msg, fst-disasters-msg, HC-butchers-art, p-menus-msg, p-cooks-msg, Run-a-Feast-art, Medievl-Feasts-art, dayboards-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 挀漀漀欀 最爀愀椀渀 眀⼀漀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最ഊFrom: schuldy at zariski.harvard.edu (Mark Schuldenfrei) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㌀ 䨀愀渀 㤀㐀 ㈀㄀㨀㌀㔀㨀 ㈀ 䔀匀吀ഊ ਀吀愀爀爀愀挀栀 䄀氀昀猀漀渀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ My lady is about to take on her second large feast, and has asked me to ਀  猀攀攀 椀昀 愀渀礀 漀昀 礀漀甀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 欀渀漀眀 漀昀 愀 最漀漀搀 眀愀礀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 氀愀爀最攀 焀甀愀渀琀椀琀椀攀猀 漀昀ഊ grain (ie. barley, bulgar wheat, etc.) without having it burn to the ਀  戀漀琀琀攀洀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀愀渀猀⸀  䄀渀礀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 最爀攀愀琀氀礀 愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 䄀渀最栀愀爀愀搀✀猀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 瀀愀洀瀀栀氀攀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 洀攀挀栀愀渀椀挀猀 漀昀 氀愀爀最攀 猀挀愀氀攀ഊcookery, you will find it invaluable. ਀ഊThe short answer is, preheat the water (hours before you think it will need ਀琀漀 戀攀 瀀爀攀栀攀愀琀攀搀㨀 琀栀攀 瘀漀氀甀洀攀 最漀攀猀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 挀甀戀攀 漀昀 愀洀漀甀渀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀ഊarea at the bottom increases only with the square: add in the additional ਀猀甀爀昀愀挀攀 愀爀攀愀 爀愀搀椀愀琀椀渀最 栀攀愀琀 愀眀愀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 愀 氀漀渀最 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 眀愀椀琀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀洀 猀琀椀爀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 搀椀挀欀攀渀猀⸀  䌀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀 昀漀漀搀 攀猀琀愀戀氀椀猀栀洀攀渀琀猀 猀攀氀氀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀ഊpaddles for this purpose, for about 7 dollars. Because of the dynamics of ਀琀栀攀 猀礀猀琀攀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 渀漀爀洀愀氀 挀漀渀瘀攀挀琀椀漀渀 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 昀椀渀搀 椀渀 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 戀愀琀挀栀 眀椀氀氀 渀漀琀ഊsuffice. Stir about every five minutes. ਀ഊ Tibor (I spent a lot of time in kitchens before I discovered ਀ऀ栀攀爀愀氀搀爀礀 愀渀搀 昀攀渀挀椀渀最⸀⤀ഊ-- ਀䴀愀爀欀 匀挀栀甀氀搀攀渀昀爀攀椀 ⠀猀挀栀甀氀搀礀 愀琀 洀愀琀栀⸀栀愀爀瘀愀爀搀⸀攀搀甀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: jtn at nutter.cs.vt.edu (Terry Nutter) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: cook grain w/o burning ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㐀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㠀㨀㄀㈀㨀 ㈀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: The Rialto ਀ഊGreetings, all, from Angharad ver' Rhuawn. ਀ഊTibor responds to Tarrach Alfson: ਀ഊ>Tarrach Alfson wrote: ਀㸀  䴀礀 氀愀搀礀 椀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 漀渀 栀攀爀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 氀愀爀最攀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀猀 愀猀欀攀搀 洀攀 琀漀ഊ> see if any of you out there know of a good way to cook large quantities of ਀㸀  最爀愀椀渀 ⠀椀攀⸀ 戀愀爀氀攀礀Ⰰ 戀甀氀最愀爀 眀栀攀愀琀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀⤀ 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 椀琀 戀甀爀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀ഊ> bottem of the pans. Any information will be greatly appreciated. ਀㸀ഊ>If you can get Angharad's little pamphlet on the mechanics of large scale ਀㸀挀漀漀欀攀爀礀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 昀椀渀搀 椀琀 椀渀瘀愀氀甀愀戀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀䜀攀攀Ⰰ 琀栀愀渀欀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀氀甀最⸀  吀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 愀爀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 ⠀漀爀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀氀攀琀ഊwith the recipes) can email me for info; I do have a bunch of them. ਀ഊ>The short answer is, preheat the water (hours before you think it will need ਀㸀琀漀 戀攀 瀀爀攀栀攀愀琀攀搀㨀 琀栀攀 瘀漀氀甀洀攀 最漀攀猀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 挀甀戀攀 漀昀 愀洀漀甀渀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀ഊ>area at the bottom increases only with the square: add in the additional ਀㸀猀甀爀昀愀挀攀 愀爀攀愀 爀愀搀椀愀琀椀渀最 栀攀愀琀 愀眀愀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 愀 氀漀渀最 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 眀愀椀琀⤀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀吀栀攀洀 猀琀椀爀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 搀椀挀欀攀渀猀⸀  䌀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀 昀漀漀搀 攀猀琀愀戀氀椀猀栀洀攀渀琀猀 猀攀氀氀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀ഊ>paddles for this purpose, for about 7 dollars. Because of the dynamics of ਀㸀琀栀攀 猀礀猀琀攀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 渀漀爀洀愀氀 挀漀渀瘀攀挀琀椀漀渀 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 昀椀渀搀 椀渀 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 戀愀琀挀栀 眀椀氀氀 渀漀琀ഊ>suffice. Stir about every five minutes. ਀ഊIf you can get someone to, stir constantly. ਀ഊBut there's another trick, if you can get a large enough container and the ਀洀攀愀渀猀 琀漀 搀爀愀椀渀 椀琀 ⠀琀栀攀 猀琀攀愀洀 欀攀琀琀氀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 栀椀最栀 猀挀栀漀漀氀猀 甀猀攀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 瘀攀最最椀攀猀ഊin are perfect): use _much_ too much water. Boil the grain in _lots_ of ਀眀愀琀攀爀㬀 搀爀愀椀渀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最⸀  圀漀爀欀猀 眀攀氀氀 眀椀琀栀 爀椀挀攀 ⠀猀漀 氀漀渀最 愀猀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 渀漀琀ഊtrying to retain the delicate flavor of a special variety like basmati), ਀愀渀搀 爀攀愀猀漀渀愀戀氀礀 眀椀琀栀 漀琀栀攀爀猀⸀  吀爀礀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀 昀椀爀猀琀⸀  圀椀琀栀 爀椀挀攀Ⰰ 戀漀椀氀 昀漀爀 ㄀㘀ഊminutes, then drain. ਀ഊCheers, ਀ഊ-- Angharad/Terry ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 愀礀漀琀琀攀 愀琀 洀椀氀漀⸀一伀搀愀欀⸀䔀䐀唀 ⠀刀漀戀攀爀琀 䄀爀琀栀甀爀 䄀礀漀琀琀攀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 挀漀漀欀 最爀愀椀渀 眀⼀漀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最ഊDate: 14 Jan 1994 02:35:33 -0500 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 一漀爀琀栀 䐀愀欀漀琀愀 匀琀愀琀攀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 䄀䌀䴀Ⰰ 䘀愀爀最漀 一䐀ഊ ਀䤀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 㰀䌀䨀䰀㄀砀䔀⸀㈀ 䤀㔀 愀琀 渀猀㄀⸀渀漀搀愀欀⸀攀搀甀㸀 礀漀甀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㨀 䴀礀 氀愀搀礀 椀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 漀渀 栀攀爀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 氀愀爀最攀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀猀 愀猀欀攀搀 洀攀 琀漀ഊ: see if any of you out there know of a good way to cook large quantities of ਀㨀 最爀愀椀渀 ⠀椀攀⸀ 戀愀爀氀攀礀Ⰰ 戀甀氀最愀爀 眀栀攀愀琀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀⤀ 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 椀琀 戀甀爀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀ഊ: bottem of the pans. Any information will be greatly appreciated. ਀ഊ: Tarrach Alfson ਀㨀                                             䐀愀栀氀攀攀渀 愀琀 戀愀搀氀愀渀搀猀⸀渀漀搀愀欀⸀攀搀甀ഊ Cooking time is the key. Starting with boiling water (not simmering) ਀愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 愀搀搀 琀栀攀 爀椀渀猀攀搀 最爀愀椀渀猀⸀  䈀爀椀渀最 椀琀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 愀 戀漀椀氀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 渀攀愀爀 琀栀攀ഊend of the cooking time turn off the heat. (depending on volume can be up to ਀㌀  洀椀渀甀琀攀猀⤀⸀  䄀渀搀 甀猀攀 愀 氀椀搀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 琀攀洀瀀 愀猀 栀椀最栀 愀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀⸀ഊ If your going to strain the grain from the liquid, just use more ਀昀氀甀椀搀 ⠀戀愀爀氀攀礀⤀⸀  匀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 最爀愀椀渀 愀栀攀愀搀 椀渀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 戀愀琀挀栀攀猀ഊand adding it to a boiling mix can do the trick as well. ਀ഊHorace ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 愀礀漀琀琀攀 愀琀 洀椀氀漀⸀一伀搀愀欀⸀䔀䐀唀 ⠀刀漀戀攀爀琀 䄀爀琀栀甀爀 䄀礀漀琀琀攀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 䰀漀琀猀 漀昀 刀椀挀攀  ⠀眀愀猀 刀攀㨀 挀漀漀欀 最爀愀椀渀 眀⼀漀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最⤀ഊDate: 14 Jan 1994 15:40:26 -0500 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 一漀爀琀栀 䐀愀欀漀琀愀 匀琀愀琀攀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 䄀䌀䴀Ⰰ 䘀愀爀最漀 一䐀ഊ ਀㨀 䤀猀 琀栀攀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 昀漀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 氀愀爀最攀 戀愀琀挀栀攀猀 漀昀 爀椀挀攀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀㼀  䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀Ⰰ 椀渀 栀椀猀ഊ: Miscellany, mentions (off hand) that there is a way to cook rice that ਀㨀 搀攀瀀攀渀搀猀 洀漀猀琀氀礀 漀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀琀愀椀渀攀搀 栀攀愀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最 眀愀琀攀爀 戀甀琀 栀攀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀ഊ: give details. ਀ഊ: Konrad ਀ഊ Rice is easy. First you need a very large pot. (sorry that was just ਀琀漀漀 攀愀猀礀⸀⸀⸀⸀⤀ 戀甀琀 䤀 搀椀最爀攀猀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 甀猀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 昀漀爀 爀椀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀椀挀攀 洀椀砀攀猀 ⠀琀栀攀渀 眀椀琀栀 氀攀渀琀椀氀猀⤀ 愀渀搀 椀琀 ഊworks well every time. ਀ഊMeasure your liquid (2 times by volume of fluid to dry) plus 3-5% ਀䈀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 氀椀焀甀椀搀 琀漀 愀 爀愀瀀椀搀 戀漀椀氀⸀ ⠀礀攀猀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 爀椀最栀琀 椀琀✀猀 最漀渀渀愀ഊ take a very long time so keep the pot covered). Herbs may be added here. ਀吀漀 琀栀攀 爀愀瀀椀搀氀礀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最 氀椀焀甀椀搀 愀搀搀 琀栀攀 搀爀礀 最漀漀搀猀 ⠀爀椀挀攀⤀ 愀渀搀 戀爀椀渀最 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ഊ a boil while covered. ਀伀渀挀攀 椀琀✀猀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最 愀最愀椀渀 琀甀爀渀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 漀昀昀 愀渀搀 眀愀椀琀 ㈀  洀椀渀甀琀攀猀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀⸀ഊIt's done. ਀吀栀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 眀椀氀氀 爀攀琀愀椀渀 攀渀漀甀最栀 栀攀愀琀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 琀栀攀 爀椀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀爀愀挀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 14:02:10 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀栀椀氀椀瀀 圀⸀ 吀爀漀礀∀ 㰀琀爀漀礀 愀琀 愀猀愀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-cooks at eden.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䘀漀漀搀 刀攀猀琀爀椀挀琀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 䘀攀愀猀琀猀ഊ ਀䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀 䘀⸀ 䜀甀渀琀攀爀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> > How do you handle getting people with dietary restrictions to notify ਀㸀 㸀       礀漀甀 ⨀戀攀昀漀爀攀⨀ 礀漀甀 猀琀愀爀琀 戀甀礀椀渀最 昀漀漀搀㼀ഊ> ਀㸀 䴀礀 愀琀琀椀琀甀搀攀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 琀爀礀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 漀爀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 猀甀戀猀琀椀琀甀琀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀洀洀漀渀ഊ> dietary restrictions (no pork, plenty of food for vegetarians, etc...) but for ਀㸀 琀栀攀 氀攀猀猀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀⸀  圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 琀攀氀氀 洀攀 䤀 琀爀礀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀漀洀攀 愀挀挀漀洀洀漀搀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ> but if not, tough cookies. ਀㸀 ഊ> > I just cooked an event and had *one* person (out of nearly 150 attendees) who ਀㸀 㸀 琀漀氀搀 洀攀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 猀栀攀 栀愀搀 愀渀 愀氀氀攀爀最礀⸀  䴀攀愀渀眀栀椀氀攀Ⰰ 䤀 欀渀漀眀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀ഊ> > local vegetarians did not tell me, ਀ഊ... ਀ഊ> I always try to make sure that vegetarians are well taken care of at my ਀㸀 昀攀愀猀琀猀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 樀甀猀琀 瀀爀攀ⴀ猀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最⸀  䈀攀猀椀搀攀猀Ⰰ 栀愀瘀椀渀最 最漀漀搀 攀搀椀戀氀攀 瘀攀最最椀攀 ഊ> dishes can make for a less expensive feast. ਀㸀 ഊ> > I also had one person attend who could not eat a single dish I made because ਀㸀 㸀 漀昀 搀椀攀琀愀爀礀 爀攀猀琀爀椀挀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  䄀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 栀攀 眀愀猀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀 琀漀 攀愀琀 漀昀昀ⴀ戀漀愀爀搀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 眀愀猀渀✀琀ഊ> > scheduled and everyone knew that. If he had let me know ahead of time, I ਀㸀 㸀 挀漀甀氀搀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 栀愀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 昀漀爀 栀椀洀 昀漀爀 氀甀渀挀栀 愀渀搀 搀椀渀渀攀爀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 吀栀攀 猀椀最渀 漀昀 愀 挀愀爀椀渀最 栀攀愀搀 挀漀漀欀⸀ 㨀ⴀ笀⤀紀ഊ> ਀㸀 㸀 䐀攀爀搀爀椀甀ഊ> ਀㸀 䜀甀渀琀栀愀爀ഊ ਀䤀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 洀攀 愀猀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 洀甀挀栀 搀漀椀渀最 愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 琀漀ഊaccomodate the maximum number of people. I also had one person contact ਀洀攀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀 爀攀最愀爀搀椀渀最 搀椀攀琀愀爀礀 爀攀猀琀爀椀挀琀椀漀渀猀 愀琀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀 䤀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 昀漀爀 愀ഊcouple of weeks ago. As it happens, that person proved ultimately unable ਀琀漀 愀琀琀攀渀搀 愀渀礀眀愀礀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 眀椀氀氀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 戀攀 愀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀ഊthing. Ways to deal with it include: ਀ഊ 1. Include a loud, tactless notice in the text of the event notice to ਀琀栀攀 攀昀昀攀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 眀椀氀氀椀渀最 琀漀 愀挀挀漀洀漀搀愀琀攀 琀栀攀 搀椀攀琀愀爀礀 爀攀猀琀爀椀挀琀椀漀渀猀ഊof the event rs, but that you will have to KNOW ABOUT THEM IN ADVANCE. ਀ഊ 2. Post (prominently) a menu with an attached ingredients list. Leave ਀瀀氀攀渀琀礀 漀昀 爀漀漀洀 昀漀爀 愀搀搀琀椀漀渀愀氀 栀愀渀搀ⴀ眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 渀漀琀攀猀Ⰰ 椀渀 挀愀猀攀 礀漀甀 搀攀挀椀搀攀ഊduring the day to throw an unscheduled tot of ginger in something. Have ਀愀 栀攀爀愀氀搀 愀渀渀漀甀渀挀攀 猀栀漀爀琀氀礀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀猀 眀椀琀栀 搀椀攀琀愀爀礀ഊrestrictions should check the list for recent annotations. ਀ഊ 3. Keep your menu constructed so that the feast is modular. Meat dishes ਀猀栀漀甀氀搀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀 洀攀愀琀⸀ 嘀攀最攀琀愀戀氀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀⸀ 䐀椀猀栀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 昀椀琀ഊneither category clearly can often be made in their "fast day" or Lenten ਀昀漀爀洀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 愀 最爀攀攀渀 漀爀 戀氀愀挀欀 瀀漀爀爀攀礀 挀愀渀 戀攀 洀愀搀攀 眀椀琀栀 戀甀琀琀攀爀ഊinstead of bacon. It will often say this right in the primary source ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 眀椀氀氀 琀愀欀攀 挀愀爀攀 漀昀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 攀渀挀漀甀渀琀攀爀⸀ഊYou can also set aside a small portion of the dish before the ਀焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀愀戀氀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀 椀猀 愀搀搀攀搀Ⰰ 琀漀 戀攀 爀攀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀ഊvegatarians, people with allergies, or whatever it may be. ਀ഊ 4. You may or may not choose to provide additional vegetarian "main ਀挀漀甀爀猀攀猀∀ 昀漀爀 猀甀挀栀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀猀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀渀琀愀挀琀攀搀 礀漀甀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀㨀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀ഊfound this to be necessary, and have never known anyone to go hungry ਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀 椀琀⸀ 䤀 愀洀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 眀椀氀氀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 猀漀 椀昀 䤀 愀洀 愀猀欀攀搀 琀漀 搀漀 猀漀Ⰰഊbut I usually am able to set up my menu with sufficient variety that if ਀猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 栀愀猀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 甀瀀 琀漀 愀戀漀甀琀 㐀 ─ 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 眀椀氀氀 猀琀椀氀氀 戀攀 昀攀搀ഊmore than adequately. ਀ഊI feel that if you have done these things, you have faithfully ਀搀椀猀挀栀愀爀最攀搀 愀渀礀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀椀戀椀氀椀琀礀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 愀爀攀愀 愀猀 愀 挀栀攀昀⸀ 刀甀渀渀椀渀最 愀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀ഊisn't easy, especially if you are actually doing the cooking as well. I ਀搀漀渀✀琀 洀攀愀渀 琀漀 猀漀甀渀搀 栀愀爀猀栀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀栀椀氀攀 䤀 昀攀攀氀 愀 挀漀漀欀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 愀挀挀漀洀漀搀愀琀攀 琀栀攀ഊminority, I also feel that this should not be at the noticeable expense ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 洀愀樀漀爀椀琀礀⸀ 䤀昀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀椀渀最 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 椀渀 攀猀猀攀渀挀攀 愀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀ഊfolks with dietary restrictions detracts from your ability to provide ਀琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀琀琀攀渀搀攀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀椀爀 洀漀渀攀礀✀猀 眀漀爀琀栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀ഊrethink your plans. ਀ഊCheerfully anticipating a flood of intriguing responses to this, ਀ഊAdamantius ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀愀爀欀 匀挀栀甀氀搀攀渀昀爀攀椀 㰀猀挀栀甀氀搀礀 愀琀 愀戀攀氀⸀䴀䄀吀䠀⸀䠀䄀刀嘀䄀刀䐀⸀䔀䐀唀㸀ഊSubject: Re: Food Restrictions and Feasts ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 攀搀攀渀⸀挀漀洀ഊDate: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:02:19 -0400 (EDT) ਀ഊ How do you handle getting people with dietary restrictions to notify ਀  ऀ礀漀甀 ⨀戀攀昀漀爀攀⨀ 礀漀甀 猀琀愀爀琀 戀甀礀椀渀最 昀漀漀搀㼀ഊ ਀䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀攀琀 最爀漀眀渀ⴀ甀瀀猀 戀攀 最爀漀眀渀ⴀ甀瀀猀⸀  䤀昀 琀栀攀礀 昀愀椀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 昀愀椀氀⸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 眀椀昀攀 ⠀琀栀攀 昀爀攀焀甀攀渀琀 挀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀⤀ 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀猀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀ഊquite edible for vegetarians, anyway. We have quite a few of them here. ਀䴀愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 挀漀洀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀 琀漀 猀甀瀀瀀氀攀洀攀渀琀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀礀眀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 最甀攀猀猀 琀栀攀 爀攀愀氀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 椀猀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀 爀漀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀 愀琀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀⸀ 䤀渀ഊsome places, it is to feed everyone, no matter what, no questions asked. ਀䄀爀漀甀渀搀 栀攀爀攀 椀琀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀猀 琀漀 戀攀 琀漀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 愀渀 愀甀琀栀攀渀琀椀挀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 搀椀渀椀渀最ഊexperience that will satisfy the senses and nutritional needs of the guest. ਀ഊJust as we wouldn't expect all present to be able to partake in authentic ਀搀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 眀攀 挀愀渀渀漀琀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 琀漀 瀀愀爀琀愀欀攀 漀昀 愀渀 愀甀琀栀攀渀琀椀挀 昀攀愀猀琀㨀ഊespecially if they don't call ahead. ਀ഊOn the other hand, anything and everything feasible should be done for those ਀琀栀愀琀 瀀氀愀渀 愀栀攀愀搀⸀  䴀礀 眀椀昀攀 漀渀挀攀 洀愀搀攀 欀漀猀栀攀爀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀 愀 琀愀戀氀攀ഊof observant Jews, except for the chicken: she asked them to purchase a ਀欀漀猀栀攀爀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 昀甀爀渀椀猀栀攀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀洀 猀漀 椀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 椀渀ഊadvance: and included their costs in the feast budget, in fairness to them. ਀ഊ Tibor (Whose dietary restrictions are legion, so I no longer eat ਀ऀऀ昀攀愀猀琀猀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "Kay Jarrell" ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 攀搀攀渀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: sca-cooks Re: intro ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀    㐀⼀㄀ ⼀㤀㜀 ㄀ 㨀㌀㠀 䄀䴀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 欀渀漀眀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 挀漀漀欀猀 戀椀琀挀栀 愀渀搀 洀漀愀渀 愀戀漀甀琀 栀漀眀 栀愀爀搀 椀琀 愀氀氀 眀愀猀 椀猀 猀漀 琀栀漀猀攀 ഊwho see food "appear" on the table will have some small clue as to how much ਀眀漀爀欀Ⰰ 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 琀爀愀椀渀椀渀最Ⰰ 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 昀爀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 搀椀瀀氀漀洀愀挀礀Ⰰ 攀昀昀漀爀琀 愀渀搀 氀愀琀攀 渀最椀栀琀猀ഊwent into not just the plate they see but the education of the cook. ਀ഊI have had few rewards so sweet as a round of applause from an SCA feast, or the ਀洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 漀昀 愀 挀氀愀猀猀 栀攀爀攀 愀琀 眀漀爀欀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀欀 栀愀搀 琀漀 最攀琀 搀漀渀攀Ⰰ 昀椀爀猀琀⸀ ഊ ਀䬀愀礀 漀昀 吀爀攀 䄀猀琀攀爀椀甀洀 䌀⸀䰀⸀ഊ ਀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀⨀ഊChef Kay Jarrell ਀吀栀攀 䔀砀攀挀甀琀椀瘀攀 䔀搀甀挀愀琀椀漀渀 䌀攀渀琀攀爀ഊUniveristy of Michigan Business School ਀欀樀愀爀爀攀氀氀 愀琀 甀洀椀挀栀⸀攀搀甀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 10 Apr 97 17:09:52 EDT ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 攀搀攀渀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: sca-cooks Complaining ਀ഊMark Schuldenfrei wrote: ਀㸀   㸀 䄀渀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 漀渀 栀漀眀 琀漀 最攀琀ഊ> > comfortable cooking for 200 rather than 40? ਀㸀 ഊ> Gunther wrote: ਀㸀   䌀漀洀昀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀㼀  䠀䄀䠀䄀䠀䄀䠀䄀䠀䄀䠀䄀䠀䄀䠀䄀䠀䄀℀ഊ> You'll never be comfortable as Head cook! Abandon all hope! ਀㸀 ഊ> Nope. ਀㸀 ഊ> Plan, plan, plan some more. Make lists, work out timelines, make some more ਀㸀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀  䠀愀瘀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀爀甀猀琀Ⰰ 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀ഊ> charge of each one. ਀㸀 ഊ> It isn't that bad. ਀     ഊI was going to address this and hadn't figured out how to do so ਀搀攀氀椀挀愀琀攀氀礀⸀  䤀昀 眀攀 ⠀琀栀攀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀搀 挀漀漀欀猀⤀ 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 猀攀攀洀 氀椀欀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀猀 ഊthe greatest trial and a miserable experience, how will we ever get ਀漀琀栀攀爀猀 琀漀 樀漀椀渀 漀甀爀 爀愀渀欀猀㼀  ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 氀椀欀攀 猀愀礀椀渀最 琀漀 渀攀眀挀漀洀攀爀猀 ∀伀栀Ⰰ 昀椀最栀琀椀渀最 椀猀 洀椀猀攀爀愀戀氀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 最攀琀 愀氀氀 ഊhot and sweaty and bruised and battered and it takes forever to learn to ਀戀攀 愀渀礀 最漀漀搀 愀渀搀 椀琀猀 洀漀爀琀椀昀礀椀渀最 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 氀漀猀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀 椀猀 ഊexpensive and some big Duke is probably going to beat the tar out of ਀礀漀甀∀⸀  䌀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 渀漀琀 眀栀愀琀 眀攀 搀漀 眀栀攀爀攀 䤀✀洀 昀爀漀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 渀漀琀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 最漀漀搀 ഊincentive to getting people to fight. ਀     ഊYes, cooking feasts is a lot of work. But with some reasonable ਀漀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最Ⰰ 椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 愀 洀椀猀攀爀愀戀氀攀 ഊexperience. I teach a whole class on Feast Planning for our Kingdom ਀唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 愀渀搀 椀琀 猀攀氀氀猀 漀甀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀 漀甀琀 ഊthere in "doing it and doing it well". My great tool for feast planning ਀椀猀 琀栀攀 挀氀攀愀爀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 猀栀攀攀琀ⴀ挀漀瘀攀爀猀⸀  夀漀甀 挀愀渀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 漀渀 漀渀攀 ഊside, the redaction on the other, and write on it with a grease pencil to ਀挀栀攀挀欀 漀昀昀 猀琀攀瀀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 渀漀琀攀 ∀挀漀漀氀椀渀最 椀渀 氀攀昀琀 栀愀渀搀  昀爀椀搀最攀∀ 漀爀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䬀攀椀氀礀渀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "Greg Lindahl" ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㈀㨀㔀㠀㨀㌀㈀ ⴀ 㐀   ⠀䔀䐀吀⤀ഊSubject: SC - Re: sca-cooks Feast Budget ਀ഊ> I'm a big believer in buying produce in season: not only does it save ਀㸀 洀漀渀攀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 最椀瘀攀猀 愀 洀漀爀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 攀昀昀攀挀琀⸀  䄀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 昀攀愀猀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀ഊ> have had fresh asparagus and fresh apples at the same dinner. A good ਀㸀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 猀攀愀猀漀渀猀 椀猀 开吀栀攀 䜀漀氀搀戀攀挀欀猀✀ 䜀甀椀搀攀 琀漀 䜀漀漀搀 䘀漀漀搀开Ⰰഊ> a revised and expanded version of their classic _Supermarket Handbook_. ਀ഊI also have an article on the web which discusses this issue: "Robbing ਀倀攀琀攀爀 吀漀 倀愀礀 倀愀甀氀㨀 䠀愀氀瘀椀渀最 䘀攀愀猀琀 䌀漀猀琀猀∀⸀ 䤀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀琀㨀ഊ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀瀀戀洀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀氀椀渀搀愀栀氀⼀昀漀漀搀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀ 䜀⸀ 䈀⸀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "Richard Cockrum" ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ 㘀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㘀㨀㌀㄀㨀 㤀 ⴀ 㐀  ഊSubject: Re: SC - asbestos undergarments (silly) ਀ഊ> Last time I was in the kitchen I was crouching in ਀㸀 昀爀漀渀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀Ⰰ 氀椀昀琀椀渀最 漀甀琀 愀 爀漀愀猀琀 眀栀攀渀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 氀攀琀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 琀攀爀爀漀爀猀ഊ> (children) into the kitchen. Little kids have no regard for the safety ਀漀昀ഊ> others and playfully gave me a push. Sianan's balance, not very good at ਀㸀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 眀攀渀琀 漀昀昀 愀渀搀 猀栀攀 昀攀氀氀 昀漀爀眀愀爀搀 戀愀渀最椀渀最 栀攀爀 挀栀攀攀欀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀ഊ> a *VERY* hot grille. To this day I still sport an interesting lattice of ਀㸀 猀挀愀爀爀椀渀最 漀渀 洀礀 挀栀攀攀欀 愀渀搀 昀漀爀攀栀攀愀搀⸀  一漀琀 琀漀漀 渀漀琀椀挀愀戀氀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 猀琀椀氀氀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 ⴀ匀椀愀渀愀渀ഊ ਀ऀ吀栀椀猀 戀爀椀渀最猀 琀漀漀 洀愀渀礀 洀攀洀漀爀椀攀猀 漀昀 洀礀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 昀攀愀猀琀 猀挀愀爀猀 琀漀 洀椀渀搀℀ ⠀ 䄀猀欀ഊBMDL chirs. about my burn record sometime:<) Any way, as a special ਀瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀爀漀洀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀琀漀渀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀Ⰰ 䤀 眀愀猀 最椀瘀攀渀 愀 猀攀琀 漀昀 圀䔀䰀䐀䔀刀匀ഊLEATHER GLOVES !!! Bless you Bonnie & Chuck :) These actually are a great ਀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀℀ 吀栀攀 最氀漀瘀攀猀 愀爀攀 氀漀渀最攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀 洀椀琀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀 Ⰰഊmine come almost to my elbow! You can find them at most home builder type ਀猀栀漀瀀猀Ⰰ 氀愀搀椀攀猀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 猀洀愀氀氀攀猀琀 猀攀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 昀椀渀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 昀椀渀最攀爀猀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 琀漀漀ഊlong for most women in the medium or large sizes! You still need to use pot ਀栀漀氀搀攀爀猀 椀昀 挀愀爀爀礀椀渀最 栀攀愀瘀攀礀Ⰰ 栀漀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀 昀漀爀 愀 搀椀猀琀愀渀挀攀 漀昀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 琀攀渀ഊfeet, but they really save your arms and wrists from those oops! types of ਀戀甀爀渀猀℀ ഊ ਀䰀愀搀礀 䜀氀礀渀椀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䤀渀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䰀愀甀最栀椀渀最 䘀漀砀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "Sue Wensel" ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㐀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㜀㨀㐀 㨀㄀㈀ ⴀ 㔀  ഊSubject: Re(2): SC - trial feasts ਀ഊ> If you wanted to do it as 4 seperate evenings of one course each, that ਀㸀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 洀甀挀栀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀栀攀渀 搀爀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 椀琀攀洀猀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 琀漀 搀漀⸀  ⠀吀栀愀琀ഊ> compatibility issue). Personally, though, I test cook also to find out ਀㸀 琀栀椀渀最猀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 瀀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀渀猀 愀渀搀 戀甀爀渀攀爀猀 䤀 渀攀攀搀Ⰰ 猀瀀愀挀攀 椀猀猀甀攀猀ഊ> on countertops and timing issues on cooking. (Another story: one of my ਀㸀 攀愀爀氀礀 昀攀愀猀琀猀 氀漀漀欀攀搀 椀渀挀爀攀搀椀戀氀攀 漀渀 瀀愀瀀攀爀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 最攀琀 洀攀ഊ> in to look at the kitchen until the day before the event. The kitchen ਀㸀 栀愀搀 愀 渀漀爀洀愀氀Ⰰ 栀漀甀猀攀ⴀ猀椀稀攀搀 猀琀漀瘀攀⸀  䤀 栀愀搀 ㌀ 漀昀 洀礀 洀愀樀漀爀 昀漀漀搀猀 爀攀焀甀椀爀椀渀最ഊ> on the top of the stove cooking. Needless to say, I did a bit of ਀㸀 樀甀最最氀椀渀最 愀渀搀 挀爀攀愀琀椀瘀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀  ⠀䤀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 漀渀 椀琀攀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀 椀渀 瀀愀渀 漀昀ഊ> water, and had a person assigned to make sure that the other two industrial ਀㸀 猀椀稀攀 瀀漀琀猀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 昀愀氀氀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀瘀攀 ⠀眀栀椀挀栀 樀甀猀琀 眀愀猀渀✀琀 戀椀最 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 栀漀氀搀ഊ> them).) ਀ഊI absolutely agree. My first (and so far only) feast, things were so hectic ਀椀渀 洀礀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 氀椀昀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 最攀琀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 漀昀ഊthe feast. We were planning to do 48 pies but had only two ovens with one ਀爀愀挀欀 攀愀挀栀⸀  䘀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀Ⰰ 眀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 瀀愀爀琀椀愀氀 爀愀挀欀 愀渀搀 眀攀爀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 最攀琀ഊtwice as many pies (12 instead of six) in that oven. That plus serving the ਀猀漀甀瀀 昀椀爀猀琀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 猀椀洀甀氀琀愀渀攀漀甀猀氀礀 猀愀瘀攀搀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀⸀  䤀 愀洀 樀甀猀琀 最氀愀搀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀搀ഊpre-baked everything else. ਀ഊWhen you visit the site, double-check what burners are functional, what ovens ਀愀爀攀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 焀甀椀爀欀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀瘀攀⸀  䨀甀猀琀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 渀攀攀搀 椀猀ഊto leave something "cooking" for half an hour only to find the pilot didn't ਀氀椀最栀琀⸀  䄀氀猀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀攀爀攀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 猀眀椀琀挀栀攀猀 愀爀攀 昀漀爀 氀椀最栀琀猀Ⰰ 最愀爀戀愀最攀ഊdisposals (if you are so lucky), and stove hoods. Find out where the fuses ਀愀爀攀 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀 琀漀 搀漀 椀昀 礀漀甀 戀氀漀眀 漀渀攀⸀  䘀椀渀搀 漀甀琀 眀栀漀 礀漀甀爀 猀椀琀攀 挀漀渀琀愀挀琀 椀猀 愀渀搀ഊknow how to contact them. ਀ഊ> So, while I realize it's a lot of work, invite 3 to 7 friends over and ਀㸀 挀漀漀欀 漀渀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 瀀氀愀琀攀 眀漀爀琀栀 漀昀 攀愀挀栀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀爀 戀攀猀琀 攀猀琀椀洀愀琀攀猀 漀渀 琀椀洀椀渀最 ഊ> and get them to taste the courses together. Your feasters will be glad ਀㸀 礀漀甀 搀椀搀℀ഊ> ਀䤀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀攀猀琀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 漀甀琀 漀渀 礀漀甀Ⰰ 礀漀甀爀 匀伀Ⰰ 礀漀甀爀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀Ⰰഊand your autocrat's SO plus anyone else who is game enough to try. For my ਀昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 眀攀 搀椀搀 愀 爀甀渀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 眀攀攀欀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 ⴀⴀ 氀甀渀挀栀 眀愀猀 栀攀氀搀 愀琀 氀甀渀挀栀 琀椀洀攀ഊand the feast at dinner time. Word of caution: when you serve out the food, ਀搀椀瘀椀搀攀 礀漀甀爀 瀀漀爀琀椀漀渀猀 愀猀 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 愀琀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀⸀  圀攀 猀氀椀挀攀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 最漀琀 愀ഊmuch higher person to bread ratio than we were getting at the event (Just pop ਀愀 昀攀眀 洀漀爀攀 氀漀愀瘀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀℀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 刀甀愀搀栀ഊ ਀䄀氀氀 椀渀 愀氀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 眀攀渀琀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀氀礀⸀  䨀甀猀琀 猀漀洀攀 渀漀琀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀挀栀漀漀氀 漀昀ഊhard knocks. ਀ഊDerdriu ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 倀栀椀氀椀瀀 ☀ 匀甀猀愀渀 吀爀漀礀 㰀琀爀漀礀 愀琀 愀猀愀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊDate: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:20:17 -0400 ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀漀漀欀✀猀 䬀渀攀攀猀ഊ ਀䰀 䠀攀爀爀ⴀ䜀攀氀愀琀琀 愀渀搀 䨀 刀 䜀攀氀愀琀琀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I had major knee surgery about 8 months ago and am coming up on my first ਀㸀 挀漀渀挀爀攀琀攀ⴀ昀氀漀漀爀 昀攀愀猀琀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 漀瀀⸀ 倀䰀䔀䔀䔀䔀䔀䔀䄀匀䔀 最椀瘀攀 洀攀 猀漀洀攀 栀椀渀琀猀 漀渀ഊ> what to do to avoid cook's knees. I've got the excellent shoes bit down pat ਀㸀 愀渀搀 愀洀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最 漀昀 椀渀瘀攀猀琀椀渀最 椀渀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 戀氀甀攀 搀攀渀猀攀 昀漀愀洀 猀氀攀攀瀀椀渀最 洀愀琀猀ഊ> as floor mats. Does anyone, anywhere, have some good hints----Don't ask me ਀㸀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 猀椀琀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀礀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀椀琀礀 眀漀渀✀琀 愀氀氀漀眀 椀琀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䄀漀椀昀攀ഊ ਀䠀攀氀氀漀 愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 䄀漀椀昀攀℀ഊ ਀刀攀最愀爀搀氀攀猀猀 漀昀 洀礀 猀琀漀搀最礀 瘀椀攀眀猀 漀渀 瀀椀攀猀 㬀  ⤀Ⰰ 䤀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀ഊfor going on 13 years, and have earned my living as a chef as well. ਀䠀攀爀攀✀猀 眀栀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 氀攀愀爀渀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 猀瀀攀愀欀椀渀最 愀猀 愀 挀漀漀欀 眀栀漀 挀愀渀 猀琀椀氀氀ഊeasily remain standing AND coherent (well, as coherent as I usually am, ਀愀渀礀眀愀礀⤀ 昀漀爀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 ㄀㘀 栀漀甀爀猀 漀爀 洀漀爀攀Ⰰ 搀攀猀瀀椀琀攀 洀礀 最爀攀礀 栀愀椀爀猀㨀ഊ ਀一攀挀攀猀猀椀琀礀 ㄀⤀ 刀攀愀氀氀礀 最漀漀搀 猀栀漀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀爀挀栀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀Ⰰ 䠀䔀䔀䰀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀Ⰰഊand probably a steel toe. Knapp used to make a steel-toed, black leather ਀∀搀爀攀猀猀∀ 猀渀攀愀欀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 椀搀攀愀氀⸀ 䜀漀漀搀 琀爀愀挀琀椀漀渀 ⠀愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 攀猀猀攀渀琀椀愀氀⤀Ⰰ 琀漀漀℀ഊMany chefs wear a special clog with a stiff but jointed sole that ਀瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀猀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀猀 琀栀攀 愀搀瘀愀渀琀愀最攀 漀昀 戀攀椀渀最 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 戀攀ഊkicked off, in the event of dousing them with boiling oil or other ਀搀椀猀愀猀琀攀爀猀⸀ 唀渀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 爀甀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 洀愀礀 戀攀 琀栀攀 椀搀攀愀氀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀ഊshoe. (I can't afford them myself!) ਀ഊNecessity 2) Thick, padded socks, such as hikers and mountain climbers ਀眀攀愀爀⸀ 夀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 愀 猀瀀漀爀琀椀渀最 最漀漀搀猀 猀琀漀爀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 攀砀琀爀愀 琀栀椀挀欀ഊpadded sections on the toe, the sole, and the heel. Pretty expensive, ਀戀甀琀 㔀 瀀愀椀爀猀 猀愀瘀攀搀 洀礀 氀椀昀攀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 洀愀渀 椀渀 眀栀椀琀攀 ⠀愀渀搀 昀甀渀渀礀 挀栀攀挀欀攀搀ഊpants)... ਀ഊNecessity 3) Remember to flex your Achilles tendon. Try to bend your ਀愀渀欀氀攀 琀椀氀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 琀漀甀挀栀 礀漀甀爀 猀栀椀渀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀爀 琀漀攀猀⸀ 䤀 愀猀猀甀洀攀 礀漀甀 眀漀渀✀琀ഊmake it, but the effort is helpful in preventing funky bunions on your ਀栀攀攀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 眀攀椀爀搀 挀愀氀挀椀甀洀 搀攀瀀漀猀椀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 攀氀椀洀椀渀愀琀攀 琀栀攀 攀氀愀猀琀椀挀椀琀礀 漀昀ഊyour tendons. ਀ഊNecessity 4) This may or may not be a problem, depending on the kind of ਀瀀攀爀猀漀渀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀⸀ 圀椀琀栀 愀氀氀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀漀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊbest ways to avoid injuries to joints is to lose any excess weight you ਀洀愀礀 戀攀 挀愀瀀愀戀氀攀 漀昀 氀漀猀椀渀最⸀ 䰀攀猀猀 眀攀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 氀攀猀猀 樀漀椀渀琀 猀琀爀攀猀猀⸀ 䤀琀✀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊsimple. It sounds so easy, and it is so hard in reality, but if you are ਀漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 挀愀渀 搀漀 琀栀椀猀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀⸀ഊ ਀一攀挀攀猀猀椀琀礀 㔀⤀ 匀攀氀琀稀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀 攀渀搀攀琀栀 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀椀渀✀℀ഊ ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Bronwynmgn at aol.com ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㄀㨀㐀 㨀㔀㐀 ⴀ 㐀   ⠀䔀䐀吀⤀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Cook's Knees ਀ഊ<< ਀ 䤀 栀愀搀 洀愀樀漀爀 欀渀攀攀 猀甀爀最攀爀礀 愀戀漀甀琀 㠀 洀漀渀琀栀猀 愀最漀 愀渀搀 愀洀 挀漀洀椀渀最 甀瀀 漀渀 洀礀 昀椀爀猀琀ഊ concrete-floor feast kitchen since the op. PLEEEEEEASE give me some hints on ਀ 眀栀愀琀 琀漀 搀漀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 挀漀漀欀✀猀 欀渀攀攀猀⸀ 䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 琀栀攀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 猀栀漀攀猀 戀椀琀 搀漀眀渀 瀀愀琀ഊ and am thinking of investing in some of those blue dense foam sleeping mats ਀ 愀猀 昀氀漀漀爀 洀愀琀猀⸀ 䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀Ⰰ 愀渀礀眀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 最漀漀搀 栀椀渀琀猀 㸀㸀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 猀瀀攀愀欀椀渀最 愀猀 洀礀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀 愀猀 愀 瀀栀礀猀椀挀愀氀 琀栀攀爀愀瀀椀猀琀Ⰰ 䤀 挀愀渀 最椀瘀攀 愀ഊfew suggestions. I certainly won't ask you to do the entire feast sitting ਀搀漀眀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 椀搀攀愀 琀漀 椀渀琀攀爀猀瀀攀爀猀攀 猀栀漀爀琀 猀椀琀琀椀渀最 瀀攀爀椀漀搀猀 ⠀㄀ ⴀ㄀㔀ഊminutes each) in your cooking time, every hour or two. ਀吀栀攀 搀攀渀猀攀 昀漀愀洀 洀愀琀猀 洀愀礀 戀攀 琀漀漀 猀漀昀琀 ⴀ 琀栀攀礀✀氀氀 戀攀 甀渀猀愀琀戀氀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀ഊyour knee work harder. The kind of rubber mats some people use in the back ਀漀昀 琀栀攀椀琀 琀爀甀挀欀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 ⴀ 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 眀愀渀琀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀ഊgoing to sink into, just somethng that will take a little of the hardnes off ਀琀栀攀 昀氀漀漀爀⸀  䄀氀猀漀 戀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 椀猀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 愀戀猀漀氀甀琀攀氀礀 渀漀琀 猀氀椀瀀ഊ(rubber seems to be the best for this, too.) ਀ഊBarb Croll ਀䰀椀挀攀渀猀攀搀 倀吀ഊ(Bronwyn doesn't know anything about this.) ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀匀甀攀 圀攀渀猀攀氀∀ 㰀猀眀攀渀猀攀氀 愀琀 戀爀愀渀搀攀最攀攀⸀氀洀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊDate: 19 May 1997 09:56:42 -0500 ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀⠀㈀⤀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀漀漀欀✀猀 䬀渀攀攀猀ഊ ਀㸀 䰀 䠀攀爀爀ⴀ䜀攀氀愀琀琀 愀渀搀 䨀 刀 䜀攀氀愀琀琀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> > I had major knee surgery about 8 months ago and am coming up on my first ਀㸀 㸀 挀漀渀挀爀攀琀攀ⴀ昀氀漀漀爀 昀攀愀猀琀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 漀瀀⸀ 倀䰀䔀䔀䔀䔀䔀䔀䄀匀䔀 最椀瘀攀 洀攀 猀漀洀攀 栀椀渀琀猀 漀渀ഊ> > what to do to avoid cook's knees. I've got the excellent shoes bit down pat ਀㸀 㸀 愀渀搀 愀洀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最 漀昀 椀渀瘀攀猀琀椀渀最 椀渀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 戀氀甀攀 搀攀渀猀攀 昀漀愀洀 猀氀攀攀瀀椀渀最 洀愀琀猀ഊ> > as floor mats. Does anyone, anywhere, have some good hints----Don't ask me ਀㸀 㸀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 猀椀琀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀礀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀椀琀礀 眀漀渀✀琀 愀氀氀漀眀 椀琀⸀ഊ> > ਀㸀 㸀 䄀漀椀昀攀ഊ ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀 爀攀瀀氀椀攀搀 ⠀攀搀椀琀攀搀 昀漀爀 戀爀攀瘀椀琀礀⤀㨀ഊ ਀㸀 一攀挀攀猀猀椀琀礀 ㄀⤀ 刀攀愀氀氀礀 最漀漀搀 猀栀漀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀爀挀栀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀Ⰰ 䠀䔀䔀䰀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀Ⰰഊ> and probably a steel toe. Knapp used to make a steel-toed, black leather ਀㸀 ∀搀爀攀猀猀∀ 猀渀攀愀欀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 椀搀攀愀氀⸀ 䜀漀漀搀 琀爀愀挀琀椀漀渀 ⠀愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 攀猀猀攀渀琀椀愀氀⤀Ⰰ 琀漀漀℀ഊ> Many chefs wear a special clog with a stiff but jointed sole that ਀㸀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀猀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀猀 琀栀攀 愀搀瘀愀渀琀愀最攀 漀昀 戀攀椀渀最 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 戀攀ഊ> kicked off, in the event of dousing them with boiling oil or other ਀㸀 搀椀猀愀猀琀攀爀猀⸀ 唀渀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 爀甀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 洀愀礀 戀攀 琀栀攀 椀搀攀愀氀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀ഊ> shoe. (I can't afford them myself!) ਀ഊI too have knee problems (and damaged nerves in the bottom of one foot) and ਀栀愀瘀攀 猀攀愀爀挀栀攀搀 栀椀最栀 愀渀搀 氀漀眀 昀漀爀 猀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  ഊ ਀䤀渀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 最漀漀搀 猀栀漀攀猀 椀渀猀攀爀琀 䐀爀⸀ 匀挀栀漀氀氀✀猀 䈀愀挀欀最甀愀爀搀 ⠀琀洀⤀ 椀渀猀漀氀攀猀 椀渀ഊthem. They provide an extra pad at the heel which is designed to take the ਀猀琀爀愀椀渀 漀昀 猀琀愀渀搀椀渀最 漀昀昀 礀漀甀爀 氀漀眀攀爀 戀愀挀欀⸀  䤀琀 愀氀猀漀 栀攀氀瀀猀 挀甀猀栀椀漀渀 礀漀甀爀 欀渀攀攀猀 愀渀搀ഊfeet. The team who developed them ought to be beatified. ਀ ഊOther things I do: ਀ഊ1. Grab a chair and rest your bad leg on it. Try to make sure the seat of the ਀ऀ挀栀愀椀爀 椀猀 渀攀愀爀氀礀 欀渀攀攀 栀椀最栀 漀爀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 猀琀爀愀椀渀 礀漀甀爀 栀椀瀀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀✀琀 ഊ find a chair, grab a stool and put your feet on it. Sometimes, I just ਀ऀ猀琀愀渀搀 漀渀 洀礀 欀渀攀攀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀栀愀椀爀⸀ഊ ਀ऀ䄀氀琀攀爀渀愀琀椀渀最 爀攀猀琀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 昀攀攀琀 漀渀 愀 猀琀漀漀氀 椀猀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀攀搀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 ഊ just for those who have knee or back problems. ਀ഊ2. Check with your local building supply stores for the rubberized ਀ऀ最爀攀愀猀攀ⴀ爀攀猀椀猀琀愀渀琀 洀愀琀猀 氀椀欀攀 昀愀挀琀漀爀椀攀猀 甀猀攀⸀  吀栀攀礀 爀攀猀椀猀琀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 猀氀椀瀀瀀攀爀礀ഊ from grease and are designed for prolonged standing in one place. You will ਀ऀ渀攀攀搀 琀漀 挀氀攀愀渀 琀栀攀洀 眀椀琀栀 瘀攀爀礀 栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀 ⴀⴀ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 攀愀猀椀氀礀 琀栀攀礀ഊ clean. ਀ऀഊ3. Walk around. Go out to the feasting area periodically to check how things ਀ऀ愀爀攀 瀀爀漀最爀攀猀猀椀渀最⸀  䌀栀攀挀欀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 渀攀愀爀戀礀 愀爀攀愀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀⸀  䠀漀漀欀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀ഊ the autocrat to see if things are running on time. Check with troll to ਀ऀ猀攀攀 栀漀眀 愀琀琀攀渀搀愀渀挀攀 愀渀搀 漀渀ⴀ戀漀愀爀搀 氀漀漀欀⸀ഊ ਀㐀⸀ऀ䐀漀渀✀琀 昀漀爀最攀琀 礀漀甀爀 愀渀琀椀ⴀ椀渀昀氀愀洀洀愀琀漀爀椀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀礀 挀愀渀 瀀爀攀瘀攀渀琀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀氀愀洀洀愀琀椀漀渀 ഊ that can cause continuing damage to joints. ਀ऀഊ5. Ask someone else to carry that heavy box. ਀ഊDoes anyone know where you can get arch supports of an arch 5 inches long and ਀愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 漀瘀攀爀 愀渀 椀渀挀栀 栀椀最栀⸀  一漀琀栀椀渀最 䤀 戀甀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀爀攀 椀猀 氀漀渀最 漀爀 栀椀最栀ഊenough. ਀ഊDerdriu ਀⠀眀栀漀猀攀 氀愀猀琀 樀漀戀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀搀 欀攀攀瀀椀渀最 愀渀 攀礀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 攀爀最漀渀漀洀椀挀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: dragon7777 at juno.com (Susan A Allen) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀ 㨀㈀㠀㨀㔀㔀 ⴀ 㜀  ഊSubject: SC - Cook's Knees ਀ഊGet a low stool to raise your foot up, so that one knee is flexed ਀愀氀琀攀爀渀愀琀攀 琀栀愀琀 愀渀搀 戀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀漀 眀愀氀欀 愀戀漀甀琀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 戀愀搀ഊback problem and the foot stool really helps, with the knee ਀昀氀攀砀攀搀Ⰰ 戀氀漀漀搀 挀椀爀挀甀氀愀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 氀攀最猀 椀猀 漀瀀攀渀攀搀 甀瀀 ⠀猀琀愀渀搀椀渀最 ഊtends to clamp closed the blood supply, leading to ਀攀搀攀洀愀 ⠀眀愀琀攀爀⤀ 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀攀攀琀 愀渀搀 瘀愀爀椀挀漀猀攀 瘀攀椀渀猀 ⠀礀甀挀欀⤀ഊ ਀䰀攀最 眀爀愀瀀猀 愀氀猀漀 栀攀氀瀀Ⰰ 愀挀攀 戀愀渀搀愀最攀 漀爀 瘀愀爀椀挀漀猀攀 猀琀漀挀欀椀渀最ഊsort of like leg girdles. ਀ഊSusan ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ 㐀 䄀甀最 ㄀㤀㤀㜀  㐀㨀㐀㜀㨀㄀㘀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: gfrose at cotton.vislab.olemiss.edu (Terry Nutter) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䈀漀漀欀氀攀琀猀ഊ ਀䠀椀Ⰰ 䬀愀琀攀爀椀渀攀 栀攀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 渀漀爀洀愀氀氀礀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 猀栀礀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 猀洀愀挀欀猀 漀昀 愀渀 愀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀ഊso many people on this list who seem anxious for this sort of thing that ਀䤀✀洀 瘀椀漀氀愀琀椀渀最 洀礀 甀猀甀愀氀 爀甀氀攀⸀  䔀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀搀 挀漀漀欀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 洀漀瘀攀ഊto the next message now. ਀ഊI have a couple of booklets that can be ordered by mail. They were designed ਀昀漀爀 戀攀最椀渀渀攀爀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 ⠀椀⸀攀⸀ 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 渀漀琀栀椀渀最 栀攀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 愀渀 ഊexperienced cook would find particularly enlightening, but people with less ਀攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 漀爀 戀漀琀栀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 ∀戀椀最 戀漀漀欀∀ 栀愀猀 琀眀攀渀琀礀ⴀ昀椀瘀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 ㄀㐀琀栀 愀渀搀 ㄀㔀琀栀 䌀 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀 愀渀搀ഊFrance, and some general information on food, ingredients, and stuff like ਀琀栀愀琀⸀  吀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀 愀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 瀀漀猀琀椀渀最 栀攀爀攀 ⠀椀渀ഊfact, several of the ones I've posted came from there, with some transformation ਀戀甀琀 渀漀琀 愀 栀甀最攀 愀洀漀甀渀琀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䤀琀✀猀 㘀㔀 瀀愀最攀猀 ⠀瀀氀甀猀 昀爀漀渀琀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀⤀Ⰰ 椀渀 眀栀愀琀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 漀昀 愀猀 琀栀攀ഊstandard booklet form, that is, 8.5 x 11 sheets folded in half, with four ਀瀀愀最攀猀 琀漀 攀愀挀栀 猀栀攀攀琀 ⠀挀漀甀渀琀椀渀最 戀漀琀栀 猀椀搀攀猀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀⤀Ⰰ 猀椀渀最氀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀搀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊsmallest print that is easily legible. This one is 17 sheets plus cover. ਀ഊThe "little book" discusses feast planning and execution, i.e. everything ਀⨀攀砀挀攀瀀琀⨀ 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 愀爀攀㨀ഊ ਀ऀ⨀ 洀攀渀甀 搀攀猀椀最渀 ⴀⴀ 椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 洀愀琀挀栀椀渀最 琀漀 戀甀搀最攀琀Ⰰ 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀Ⰰഊ kitchen, and staff, how to find recipes, and balancing the meal; ਀ഊ * staff -- who and how many you'll need; ਀ഊ * preparation -- purchasing, cooking ahead vs. on site, ਀ऀ  琀爀愀渀猀瀀漀爀琀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 琀椀洀椀渀最 嬀椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 愀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 昀漀爀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 眀椀琀栀 氀愀爀最攀ഊ quantities and thermal mass], getting recipes and ingredients ready, ਀ऀ  愀渀搀 戀愀猀椀挀 猀愀昀攀琀礀㬀 ഊ ਀ऀ⨀ 瀀攀爀椀瀀栀攀爀愀氀猀 ⴀⴀ 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最Ⰰ 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 挀氀攀愀渀ⴀ甀瀀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀攀昀琀漀瘀攀爀猀㬀 ഊ ਀ऀ⨀ 攀砀攀挀甀琀椀漀渀 ⴀⴀ 搀攀氀攀最愀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 搀椀猀愀猀琀攀爀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀㬀 ഊ ਀ऀ⨀ 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀⸀  ഊ ਀䤀琀✀猀 ㈀㤀 瀀愀最攀猀 漀昀 琀攀砀琀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 昀漀爀洀愀琀 ⠀攀椀最栀琀 猀栀攀攀琀猀 瀀氀甀猀 挀漀瘀攀爀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䌀爀甀搀攀 昀椀渀愀渀挀椀愀氀 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀㨀 ␀㔀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 戀椀最 最甀礀Ⰰ ␀㌀ 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀Ⰰ 瀀氀甀猀 ␀㄀ 洀愀椀氀椀渀最ഊcost for the first booklet and $0.50 for each additional. ਀ഊAnyone interested in a copy of either one should email me at ਀樀琀渀 愀琀 挀漀琀琀愀最攀猀漀昀琀⸀挀漀洀⸀ഊ ਀䌀栀攀攀爀猀Ⰰഊ- -- Katerine/Terry ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㠀㨀㈀㈀㨀㔀  ⴀ 㐀   ⠀䔀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Uduido at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䈀甀爀渀攀搀 刀椀挀攀ⴀ猀愀瘀椀渀最ഊ ਀䤀渀 愀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 搀愀琀攀搀 㤀㜀ⴀ 㤀ⴀ㈀㈀  㤀㨀㔀㌀㨀 㐀 䔀䐀吀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀爀椀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㰀㰀 䄀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀甀爀渀攀搀 爀椀挀攀Ⰰ 䤀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 琀攀氀氀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 䤀✀洀 琀攀愀挀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 椀昀 愀 搀椀猀栀ഊ doesn't come out right, it's better to toss it and go without, than to ਀ 猀攀爀瘀攀 愀 瀀漀漀爀 搀椀猀栀⸀  䔀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 攀氀猀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀戀猀漀氀甀琀攀氀礀 昀愀戀甀氀漀甀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊ it's the burned rice everyone will talk about later. ਀  㸀㸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 一伀吀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀 戀甀琀 眀漀爀欀猀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀氀礀 眀攀氀氀 昀漀爀 琀甀爀渀椀渀最 戀甀爀渀爀搀ഊrice into a 'gret' dish and it really does work. ਀ഊIf you burn you rice, IMMEDIATELY remove it from the heat and scoop out the ਀瀀愀爀琀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 渀漀琀 戀甀爀渀攀搀搀⸀ 吀愀欀攀 愀 最漀漀搀氀礀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 琀攀愀 氀攀愀瘀攀猀 愀渀搀 挀爀甀洀戀氀攀ഊthen into a powder. Stir into the rice until well-mixed. ਀ഊI burned the rice at Will's and some wonderful gentle told me to try this. I ਀搀椀搀⸀ 䄀䰀䰀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀椀挀攀 最漀琀 攀愀琀攀渀 愀渀搀 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀愀渀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀⸀ഊ ਀唀栀Ⰰ 氀攀琀✀猀 猀攀攀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀琀愀欀攀 愀 瀀愀渀 漀昀 爀椀挀攀 愀渀搀 戀甀爀渀 椀琀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀䰀漀爀搀 刀愀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 14:00:20 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䐀漀渀渀愀 䬀攀渀琀漀渀 㰀搀漀渀渀愀 愀琀 搀愀戀戀氀攀爀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Field Expedient Noodles ਀ഊI did an outdoor feast with noodles. I pre-cooked them until they were ਀愀氀洀漀猀琀 搀漀渀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 琀漀猀猀攀搀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 漀氀椀瘀攀 漀椀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀愀挀欀愀最攀搀 琀栀攀洀ഊin ziplock bags, one serving bowl's worth per bag. I made the ਀愀挀挀漀洀瀀愀渀礀椀渀最 猀愀甀挀攀 愀渀搀 戀愀最最攀搀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 琀漀漀⸀ഊ ਀圀栀攀渀 椀琀 挀愀洀攀 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 猀攀爀瘀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 猀愀甀挀攀 戀愀最猀 ⠀戀愀最 愀渀搀 愀氀氀⤀ 眀攀爀攀 瀀甀琀 椀渀琀漀ഊboiling water to heat them. Each noodle bag was emptied into boiling ਀眀愀琀攀爀 昀漀爀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 猀挀漀漀瀀攀搀 漀甀琀Ⰰ 愀 戀愀最 漀昀 栀漀琀 猀愀甀挀攀ഊpoured on, and then given to the waiting server. Every table had hot ਀渀漀漀搀氀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀刀漀猀愀氀椀渀搀攀ഊ- -- ਀刀漀猀愀氀椀渀搀攀 䐀攀 圀椀琀琀攀⼀䐀漀渀渀愀 䬀攀渀琀漀渀 ⨀ 搀漀渀渀愀 愀琀 搀愀戀戀氀攀爀⸀挀漀洀 ⨀ഊhttp://www.dabbler.com/ ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀  㤀㨀㈀㘀㨀㈀㌀ ⴀ㜀   䴀匀吀ഊFrom: "Jeanne Stapleton" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䐀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀㸀 䠀漀眀 搀漀攀猀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀椀爀 昀攀愀猀琀猀㼀  䐀漀 礀漀甀ഊ> add it as an addendum to the menu or do you offer it at all? ਀㸀 ഊ> The ever curious, ਀㸀 䴀甀爀欀椀愀氀ഊ ਀䤀✀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 椀琀 椀渀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 眀愀礀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀椀瀀愀琀攀搀 椀渀 昀攀愀猀琀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 ഊhave been a couple of methods: ਀ഊ - One is to present small placards or menus at the table ਀ऀऀ眀椀琀栀 猀渀椀瀀瀀攀琀猀 漀昀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ - Another, which I personally like a lot, is to prepare a ਀ऀऀ猀洀愀氀氀 戀爀漀挀栀甀爀攀 眀椀琀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀ഊ sale for a trifling amount, or to roll the cost into the ਀ऀऀ昀攀愀猀琀 昀攀攀 愀渀搀 漀昀昀攀爀 漀渀攀 琀漀 攀愀挀栀 搀椀渀攀爀 眀栀漀 攀渀琀攀爀猀 琀栀攀 栀愀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀䈀攀爀攀渀最愀爀椀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:45:13 -0400 (EDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀愀爀欀 匀挀栀甀氀搀攀渀昀爀攀椀 㰀猀挀栀甀氀搀礀 愀琀 愀戀攀氀⸀䴀䄀吀䠀⸀䠀䄀刀嘀䄀刀䐀⸀䔀䐀唀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Documentation ਀ഊ - One is to present small placards or menus at the table ਀  ऀऀ眀椀琀栀 猀渀椀瀀瀀攀琀猀 漀昀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀唀猀甀愀氀氀礀 眀攀 搀漀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 挀椀琀椀渀最 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 渀愀洀攀 愀渀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀  ऀⴀऀ䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀氀礀 氀椀欀攀 愀 氀漀琀Ⰰ 椀猀 琀漀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 愀ഊ small brochure with recipes and documentation for ਀  ऀऀ猀愀氀攀 昀漀爀 愀 琀爀椀昀氀椀渀最 愀洀漀甀渀琀Ⰰ 漀爀 琀漀 爀漀氀氀 琀栀攀 挀漀猀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀ഊ feast fee and offer one to each diner who enters the hall. ਀ഊMy wife bribes her cooking staff with a copy. It seems a fair recompense. ਀ഊ Tibor ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㄀㨀㔀㤀㨀㈀㄀ ⴀ 㐀   ⠀䔀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Uduido at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䐀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀㰀㰀 䠀漀眀 搀漀攀猀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀椀爀 昀攀愀猀琀猀㼀  䐀漀 礀漀甀 愀搀搀 椀琀ഊas an addendum to the menu or do you offer it at all? ਀  㸀㸀ഊ ਀䤀 洀愀欀攀 ㈀  挀漀瀀椀攀猀 漀昀 攀愀挀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 瀀愀最攀 琀栀愀琀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀猀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀ഊsource, my translation and the redaction plus any notes on parts that need ਀挀氀愀爀椀昀礀椀渀最⸀ 䤀 琀栀攀渀 挀漀氀愀琀攀 琀栀攀洀 愀渀搀 猀琀愀瀀氀攀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀⸀ 䄀渀礀漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀ഊ20 people who wants copies of the recipes can then have them for the asking. ਀ഊLord Ras ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㐀㨀㔀㐀㨀㈀㤀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: Debra Hense ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䐀漀挀甀洀攀渀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀䤀✀瘀攀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 洀愀搀攀 甀瀀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 猀漀甀瘀攀渀椀爀 挀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀  吀栀攀礀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 洀礀 爀攀搀愀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 挀漀洀攀 漀渀琀漀 猀椀琀攀 眀椀琀栀 洀攀 愀渀搀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 愀猀欀猀㨀 挀愀渀 䤀 猀攀攀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀 漀昀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀㼀 吀栀攀渀Ⰰ 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 愀爀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀搀 漀渀 攀愀挀栀 琀愀戀氀攀⸀ 䔀砀琀爀愀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 椀昀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 琀眀漀 漀爀 琀栀爀攀攀 愀琀 愀 琀愀戀氀攀 眀愀渀琀 愀 挀漀瀀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀 昀爀攀攀⸀ഊ ਀䈀甀琀 琀栀攀渀Ⰰ 䤀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 漀甀琀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 䌀漀氀氀攀最攀 䴀愀搀爀椀最愀氀猀⸀⸀⸀ 䈀攀昀漀爀攀 䤀 攀瘀攀爀 挀漀渀挀攀椀瘀攀搀 漀昀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 洀礀 昀椀爀猀琀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀⸀ഊ ਀䬀愀琀攀爀礀渀 搀攀 䐀攀瘀攀氀礀渀ഊdebh at microware.com ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㄀㨀㈀㘀㨀㔀㘀 ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: rousseau at scn.org (Anne-Marie Rousseau) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䐀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀㸀 䠀漀眀 搀漀攀猀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀椀爀 昀攀愀猀琀猀㼀  䐀漀 礀漀甀ഊ> add it as an addendum to the menu or do you offer it at all? ਀㸀 ഊ> Murkial ਀ഊHere in Madrone (Seattle), we often will take the recipes from a big ਀昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 愀氀漀渀最 眀椀琀栀 瀀椀氀攀猀 漀昀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 愀 瀀愀洀瀀栀氀攀琀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 ഊmuch at cost. These are made available by word of mouth, or through our ਀欀椀渀最搀漀洀 猀琀漀挀欀 挀氀攀爀欀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 愀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 洀攀愀氀 愀琀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀渀搀攀搀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 愀 挀漀瀀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ഊrecipes (with attendant documentation, of course) as they stepped up to ਀琀栀攀 氀椀渀攀 琀漀 昀椀氀氀 琀栀攀椀爀 瀀氀愀琀攀猀⸀ 圀漀爀欀攀搀 瘀攀爀礀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 猀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀礀 ഊhad the tasty stuff in their mouths and could read the paper and see it ਀眀愀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀漀 戀漀漀琀⸀ 䠀愀栀℀ഊ ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀ䄀渀渀攀ⴀ䴀愀爀椀攀Ⰰ 漀渀 愀 挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀 挀爀甀猀愀搀攀 琀漀 猀栀漀眀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀栀愀琀 愀甀琀栀攀渀琀椀挀 ഊmedieval food is not nasty, wierd or brown glop. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ 㤀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀ 㨀㔀㔀㨀㔀㄀ ⴀ 㐀   ⠀䔀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Mark Schuldenfrei ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 瀀漀琀攀渀琀椀愀氀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 昀漀漀搀猀ഊ ਀䈀攀爀攀渀最愀爀椀愀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ Anyway, I happen to love spicy foods. I also happen to be a bonafide ਀  猀漀搀椀甀洀 挀栀氀漀爀椀搀愀栀漀氀椀挀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 洀攀愀渀猀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 ∀最攀琀∀ 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀愀椀渀椀渀最 ഊ about salty chicken broth and too-salty onion dip (love the stuff). ਀  䤀 愀搀樀甀猀琀 昀漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀猀✀ 琀愀猀琀攀猀 愀猀 戀攀猀琀 䤀 挀愀渀Ⰰ 最漀 瘀攀爀礀 氀椀最栀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀氀琀Ⰰ ഊ but I refuse to cook bland food when I have other choices. ਀ഊI agree completely about the bland foods. ਀ഊIn general, however, food tastes the same whether you salt it at the table, ਀漀爀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀  ⠀唀渀氀攀猀猀 琀栀攀 猀愀氀琀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 礀漀甀ഊare using, like brine or koshering, or whatever). ਀ഊI would recommend, therefore, that you cook almost exclusively without salt, ਀愀渀搀 氀攀琀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 甀猀攀 椀琀 瀀甀琀 猀漀洀攀 椀渀 愀琀 琀栀攀 琀愀戀氀攀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 攀砀挀攀瀀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰഊof course: like oatmeal or cream of wheat that requires some salt in the ਀挀漀漀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 漀爀 猀瀀椀渀愀挀栀⸀  䈀甀琀Ⰰ 攀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀渀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 氀椀最栀琀 栀愀渀搀⸀ഊ ਀吀漀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 愀渀 椀搀攀愀㨀 洀礀 眀椀昀攀 愀渀搀 䤀 愀爀攀 戀漀琀栀 瘀攀爀礀 瀀爀漀ⴀ昀氀愀瘀漀爀 挀漀漀欀猀⸀  圀攀 栀愀瘀攀ഊbeen using the same box of salt for about 5 years. Now, try to take away ਀漀甀爀 最愀爀氀椀挀⸀⸀⸀⸀ ⠀㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀䴀礀 戀氀漀漀搀 瀀爀攀猀猀甀爀攀 椀猀 昀椀渀攀Ⰰ 琀栀愀渀欀猀⸀  䈀甀琀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 瀀氀攀渀琀礀 漀昀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 漀渀 搀椀甀爀攀琀椀挀猀ഊin an attempt to reduce their BP. Excess salt for them is just begging to ਀最椀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀⸀ഊ ਀ऀ吀椀戀漀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 07:19:53 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䰀 䠀攀爀爀ⴀ䜀攀氀愀琀琀 愀渀搀 䨀 刀 䜀攀氀愀琀琀 㰀氀椀漀渀琀愀洀爀 愀琀 瀀琀搀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: SC - Cooking AROUND Court ਀ഊ>Court drag on past the Dinner Hour in a former East Kingdom Kingdom? ਀㸀一攀瘀攀爀℀℀℀℀ഊ> ਀㸀圀栀愀琀 搀漀 礀漀甀 琀栀椀渀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 瀀甀琀琀椀渀最 氀愀爀最攀 昀愀渀猀 戀氀漀眀椀渀最 愀爀漀洀愀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀ഊ>kitchen directly at the thrones? Do you think that would end court any ਀㸀猀漀漀渀攀爀㼀ഊ> ਀㸀䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 戀甀最最椀渀最 洀攀 琀漀 搀漀 愀 刀倀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀ 挀漀渀瘀椀渀挀攀 洀攀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀ഊ>okay. I need to make a decision soon. ਀㸀ഊ>Julleran ਀ഊWell, my first ploy is to send my schedule directly to the crowns involved. ਀吀栀攀礀 挀愀渀 琀栀攀渀 猀攀攀 眀栀攀渀 挀漀甀爀琀 椀猀 猀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 愀渀搀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀猀ഊsupposed to be. Theoretically, they can then tell you if they think court ਀戀甀猀椀渀攀猀猀 挀愀渀 琀愀欀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀 椀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀椀洀攀 昀爀愀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀䄀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 栀愀瘀攀 愀 爀甀渀渀攀爀 挀栀攀挀欀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀椀爀 䴀愀樀攀猀琀椀攀猀 樀甀猀琀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀ഊtourney ends (or right before court), to see if it started on time. ਀ഊNext, I like to plan a first remove that is either mostly cold food (salad, ਀戀爀攀愀搀⼀戀甀琀琀攀爀猀⼀ 焀甀椀挀栀攀⤀Ⰰ 漀爀 椀猀 攀愀猀椀氀礀 ∀栀攀氀搀∀ ⠀洀愀挀 愀渀搀 挀栀攀攀猀攀Ⰰ 猀漀甀瀀⼀猀琀攀眀Ⰰഊetc...). I save the labor intensive stuff for later in the feast. This way, ਀礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 ∀昀甀搀最攀 琀椀洀攀∀ 戀甀椀氀琀 爀椀最栀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 攀猀猀攀渀琀椀愀氀氀礀ഊyou're prepared to slap the entire first remove on the table at once, saving ਀愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 挀漀洀瀀氀愀椀渀琀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 椀猀 ⠀琀栀攀礀✀氀氀 戀攀ഊstarving by the time court runs over AND the feast is served dish-by-dish). ਀䤀 愀氀猀漀 最漀 眀椀琀栀 昀愀洀椀氀礀 猀琀礀氀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 猀挀攀渀愀爀椀漀⸀ ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 䄀刀䔀 琀栀椀渀最猀 漀渀攀 挀愀渀 搀漀⸀ 夀漀甀✀搀 戀攀 猀甀爀瀀爀椀猀攀搀⸀  䨀甀猀琀 瀀氀愀渀 漀渀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀ഊflexible first remove. BTW, by sending my schedule to the Crown, they had a ਀最漀漀搀 椀搀攀愀 漀昀 洀礀 渀攀攀搀猀⸀ 䄀琀 ㄀猀琀 䌀爀漀眀渀 氀愀猀琀 猀甀洀洀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 䔀愀猀琀 䬀椀渀最 栀愀搀 愀ഊmessenger who came to tell me exactly when THEY wanted the feast served, ਀⠀椀攀㨀 栀漀眀 氀愀琀攀 琀栀攀礀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀⤀⸀ 圀椀琀栀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 挀爀攀愀琀椀瘀攀 昀漀漀琀眀漀爀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊa flexible schedule (and professional warmers) the last dish was served on ਀琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 攀瘀攀渀 琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 搀椀猀栀 眀攀渀琀 漀甀琀 ㄀ ㄀⼀㈀ 栀漀甀爀猀 氀愀琀攀⠀䤀 栀愀搀 愀 最攀渀攀爀漀甀猀ഊ2 hours planned for the feast, *knowing* full well that that would be eaten ਀椀渀琀漀 戀礀 愀 氀愀琀攀 挀漀甀爀琀⤀⸀ 吀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 眀愀猀 昀愀渀挀礀 戀甀琀 挀漀氀搀⸀ 䈀甀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 搀漀ഊthat in June. WE stuck to our schedule. The 1st remove was ready to serve ਀猀椀琀琀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀氀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀猀 樀甀猀琀 眀愀氀欀攀搀 椀渀Ⰰ 琀漀漀欀 愀 搀椀猀栀Ⰰ 琀漀漀欀 漀昀昀ഊthe plastic wrap, and took the dish to the table, came back for another..... ਀ഊAoife ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㄀㨀㐀 㨀㈀㤀 ⴀ 㐀  ഊFrom: Philip & Susan Troy ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 匀䌀 䘀攀愀猀琀 渀 琀栀攀 氀愀眀ഊ ਀䌀栀愀爀氀攀猀 䴀挀䌀一 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> A thread running on the histrenact list (a small europe-based list) asked ਀㸀 栀漀眀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 最攀琀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 氀攀最愀氀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀洀攀渀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 攀砀椀猀琀 昀漀爀ഊ> people feeding other people for money. (We don't - we ignore them and ਀㸀 栀漀瀀攀 眀攀 搀漀渀✀琀 瀀漀椀猀漀渀 愀渀礀戀漀搀礀⤀ഊ> ਀㸀 䄀渀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀猀㼀ഊ ਀䤀 眀爀漀琀攀 愀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀愀渀椀琀愀琀椀漀渀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀 ⠀縀㄀ ⤀ 昀漀爀ഊT.I., which suggested that, as our various respective governments don't ਀猀攀攀洀 琀漀 戀攀 攀渀最愀最椀渀最 椀渀 最爀愀琀甀椀琀漀甀猀 䐀䔀爀攀最甀氀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀栀漀漀瘀攀ഊcooks to know a little bit about how to get various local food handlers' ਀挀攀爀琀椀昀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 圀栀愀琀 洀愀欀攀猀 琀栀椀猀 愀 戀椀琀 漀昀 愀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 猀漀洀攀 氀愀眀礀攀爀ഊsomewhere could easily decide that a case of food poisoning is the fault ਀愀渀搀 氀椀愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀椀挀攀渀猀攀搀 昀漀漀搀 栀愀渀搀氀攀爀 漀渀 猀椀琀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀ഊdoesn't require it for that very reason, in the same way that I have ਀戀攀攀渀 搀椀猀挀漀甀爀愀最攀搀 昀爀漀洀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 琀漀漀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀 漀渀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀 椀渀 漀琀栀攀爀ഊSCA-wide publications. The SCA cannot _appear_ to sanction any specific ਀愀挀琀 漀爀 猀琀愀琀攀洀攀渀琀 眀栀椀挀栀 眀漀甀氀搀 爀攀猀甀氀琀 椀渀 椀渀樀甀爀礀 琀漀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀猀⸀ 䤀昀 䤀ഊsay, in an SCA publication, that it is okay to butcher raw chickens on a ਀眀漀漀搀攀渀 挀甀琀琀椀渀最 戀漀愀爀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 猀愀氀愀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 戀漀愀爀搀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀ഊwashing and sanitizing it, ans surprise, someone gets sick, there's a ਀最漀漀搀 挀栀愀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 眀椀氀氀 猀栀愀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 氀椀愀戀椀氀椀琀礀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀 吀栀攀 伀琀栀攀爀 䠀愀渀搀Ⰰ 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 搀漀 栀愀瘀攀 猀甀挀栀 氀椀挀攀渀猀攀猀Ⰰ 挀攀爀琀椀昀椀挀愀琀攀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀Ⰰഊreceive very good, and very inexpensive, training, which will help ਀瀀爀攀瘀攀渀琀 猀甀挀栀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀椀攀猀 愀猀 洀愀猀猀攀搀 挀愀猀攀猀 漀昀 猀愀氀洀漀渀攀氀氀愀 愀琀 吀眀攀氀昀琀栀ഊNight. My papers from the New York City Department of Sanitation and the ਀匀琀愀琀攀 䈀漀愀爀搀 漀昀 䠀攀愀氀琀栀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 洀攀 琀栀攀 搀甀挀欀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀栀漀漀琀椀渀最ഊgallery, but I am not defenseless by any means. I run my kitchen in such ਀愀 眀愀礀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 愀洀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 琀栀愀琀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 渀漀琀栀椀渀最 眀椀氀氀Ⰰ 漀爀 挀愀渀Ⰰ 最漀 眀爀漀渀最 椀渀ഊthe way of food-borne illnesses, or if it does, I will have saved ਀搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 椀渀搀椀挀愀琀椀渀最 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 椀渀 洀礀 瀀漀眀攀爀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 椀琀Ⰰഊand that I am not responsible for the Red Tide in the scallops, or ਀眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 椀琀 洀愀礀 戀攀⸀ 䤀渀 漀琀栀攀爀 眀漀爀搀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀攀爀琀椀昀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 愀ഊtwo-edged sword. There is, of course, no law that says you have to be ਀挀攀爀琀椀昀椀攀搀 愀猀 愀 昀漀漀搀 栀愀渀搀氀攀爀Ⰰ 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 眀栀攀爀攀 䤀 氀椀瘀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀氀猀漀ഊnothing that says a certified food handler must publicise the fact that ਀栀攀 椀猀 挀攀爀琀椀昀椀攀搀⸀ 匀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 䤀✀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 椀琀 椀昀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 爀攀愀猀漀渀ഊto believe it will make the difference between being allowed to use a ਀猀椀琀攀✀猀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 昀愀挀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 渀漀琀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀Ⰰ 氀椀欀攀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀椀攀猀Ⰰ 眀椀氀氀ഊoften balk at a bunch of crazies using, and possibly messing up, their ਀欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀氀攀 琀栀攀礀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 栀愀瘀攀 氀攀猀猀 漀昀 愀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 椀昀 琀栀攀 挀爀愀稀椀攀猀 椀渀ഊquestion are licensed, and, presumably professionals. No need to correct ਀琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 瀀漀椀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䈀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 搀漀 椀猀 昀漀氀氀漀眀 琀栀攀 爀攀最甀氀愀琀椀漀渀猀 愀猀 猀攀琀 搀漀眀渀 戀礀ഊyour local Health Department, Department of Sanitation, or whoever ਀栀愀渀搀氀攀猀 琀栀椀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀⸀ 吀漀 搀漀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 氀攀愀爀渀 琀栀攀ഊregulations. You may or may not want to actually get the certification, ਀戀甀琀 椀琀 椀猀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀愀渀琀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀 猀琀甀昀昀Ⰰ 洀漀爀攀 漀爀 氀攀猀猀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀猀ഊvarious temperature controls for bacterial growth (i.e. how to use a ਀爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀漀爀 愀渀搀 愀 猀琀漀瘀攀Ⰰ ㄀ ㄀⤀Ⰰ 栀漀眀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 挀爀漀猀猀ⴀ挀漀渀琀愀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 ⠀猀甀挀栀ഊas storing the raw chickens on the rack UNDER the cooked beef, and not ਀琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 眀愀礀 愀爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 猀椀渀挀攀 搀爀椀瀀猀 愀爀攀 愀 洀椀渀漀爀 椀渀挀漀渀瘀攀渀椀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 漀渀攀ഊdirection, and potentially deadly in the other, but luckily liquids ਀搀漀渀✀琀 搀爀椀瀀 唀倀⤀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 匀椀渀欀 ㄀ ㄀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀猀 戀愀猀椀挀 猀琀甀昀昀 愀戀漀甀琀ഊwashing dishes, pots, equipment in general, and a bit of plumbing ਀琀栀攀漀爀礀Ⰰ 猀漀 愀猀 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 琀栀椀渀最猀 氀椀欀攀 爀愀眀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 栀攀愀搀猀 戀愀挀欀椀渀最ഊup into the sink of the building next door. Basic first aid is optional, ਀戀甀琀 䤀 昀攀攀氀 琀栀愀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀 洀愀渀愀最攀爀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 挀愀爀攀 漀昀 栀椀猀 漀爀 栀攀爀ഊpeople in an emergency. ਀ഊBeyond that, there is the stuff we have already beaten to death on the ਀猀甀戀樀攀挀琀 漀昀 愀氀氀攀爀最椀攀猀 愀渀搀 栀漀眀 琀漀 搀攀愀氀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 瀀漀猀琀椀渀最 愀挀挀甀爀愀琀攀Ⰰഊup-to-date ingredients lists, etc. ਀ഊYes, this seems like a heck of a lot, but the bottom line is that you ਀氀漀瘀攀 礀漀甀爀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀愀渀琀 琀栀攀洀 猀愀昀攀⸀ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 甀猀 眀椀氀氀 最漀 琀漀ഊgreat lengths to assure that. ਀ഊAdamantius ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㐀㨀  㨀㈀㠀 ⴀ 㘀  ഊFrom: L Herr-Gelatt and J R Gelatt ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䬀椀琀挀栀攀渀 䌀漀洀洀愀渀搀洀攀渀琀猀ഊ ਀䠀愀瘀攀 䤀 昀漀爀最漀琀琀攀渀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最㼀 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 栀愀渀最 渀攀砀琀 琀漀 愀 戀愀最 漀昀 栀愀椀爀ⴀ琀椀攀猀ഊoutside the kitchen door, next to the menu and ingredients lists. ਀ഊAoife ਀ഊKitchen Commandments ਀ഊ1. Thou shalt wash thine hands upon entering the Kitchen, and often thereafter. ਀ഊ2. Thou shalt tie back thine scraggly locks before entering the Kitchen. ਀ഊ3. Thou shalt not pester the cooks, and thou shalt obey the Chef. ਀ഊ4. Thou shalt pay for thy disturbances of the kitchen staff with chocolate. ਀䰀椀欀攀眀椀猀攀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀 猀栀愀氀琀 琀甀爀渀 愀 搀攀愀昀 攀愀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 爀漀眀搀礀 搀椀猀琀甀爀戀愀渀挀攀猀 漀昀 挀爀攀愀琀椀瘀椀琀礀ഊin the kitchen. ਀ഊ5. Thou shalt not borrow kitchen equipment or supplies without permission. ਀吀栀漀甀 猀栀愀氀琀 爀攀琀甀爀渀 攀瘀攀爀礀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀 琀栀漀甀 戀漀爀爀漀眀攀猀琀 椀渀 琀椀瀀ⴀ琀漀瀀ഊcondition, promptly. ਀ഊ6. Thou shalt honor thy cooks with backrubs and praise often, for verily, ਀眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀猀琀 最漀 栀甀渀最爀礀⸀ഊ ਀㜀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 琀栀漀甀 挀愀爀攀猀琀 渀漀琀 昀漀爀 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 瀀甀琀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀攀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀 猀栀愀氀琀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 猀愀礀ഊ"No, Thank-you", for those who wouldst shout "My God, that's disgusting" ਀猀栀愀氀氀 猀甀爀攀氀礀 昀漀爀昀攀椀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 氀椀瘀攀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 栀愀渀搀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 猀氀愀瘀攀搀 栀漀甀爀猀ഊto prepare it. ਀ഊ8. The Cooks of thy acquaintance surely have not been fed while they have ਀琀漀椀氀攀搀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀昀漀爀攀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀 猀栀愀氀琀 猀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 猀漀ഊdesire it. ਀ഊ9. Thou shalt have a soft chair and a glass of "something with a kick" for ਀琀栀礀 眀攀愀爀椀猀漀洀攀 挀漀漀欀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀猀 搀漀渀攀⸀  圀栀椀氀攀 琀栀礀 挀漀漀欀 爀攀氀愀砀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀ഊshalt help clean the kitchen. ਀ഊ10. Thou shalt help thy cook load the wagon for the journey home, for verily ਀眀椀氀氀 琀栀礀 挀漀漀欀 戀攀 昀愀氀氀椀渀最 搀漀眀渀 琀椀爀攀搀 愀昀琀攀爀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀椀渀最 猀甀挀栀 愀渀 愀眀攀猀漀洀攀 洀攀愀氀⸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:48:17 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䰀 䠀攀爀爀ⴀ䜀攀氀愀琀琀 愀渀搀 䨀 刀 䜀攀氀愀琀琀 㰀氀椀漀渀琀愀洀爀 愀琀 瀀琀搀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: SC - Help! ਀ഊ>From: "rond" ਀㸀ഊ>Iam new to the SCA and for my first project I get to feastocrat an event. ਀㸀䜀爀攀愀琀 椀猀渀✀琀 椀琀℀ഊ>Please oh please I can use all the help I can get. Us gypsies are not ਀㸀愀氀眀愀礀猀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 漀爀最愀渀椀猀攀搀⸀ഊ> Annastasis ਀ഊWell, let's see---Feast-0-crat 101 in one easy lesson. That's a tall order! ਀ഊFirst I suggest you gather the following information: ਀ഊ1) When is the event (what modern date, time. etc, i.e.: how much lead time ਀搀漀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀渀⤀㼀ഊ2) What is the theme (ie: 14th century France, etc., or is a generic-themed ਀昀攀愀猀琀 伀䬀㼀⤀ഊ3) What are the cooking facilities like? ਀㐀⤀ 圀栀漀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 栀攀氀瀀椀渀最 礀漀甀㼀ഊ5) What is the attendance estimate? ਀㘀⤀ 圀栀愀琀 椀猀 礀漀甀爀 戀甀搀最攀琀 瀀攀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀㼀 䄀猀欀 昀漀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 ␀㈀⸀㔀  瀀攀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 洀椀渀甀洀甀洀ഊfor each course of dishes, and more per person per course if you are serving ਀昀攀眀攀爀 挀漀甀爀猀攀猀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 洀椀渀甀洀甀洀 漀昀 ␀㌀⸀㔀  瀀攀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 昀漀爀 愀 漀渀攀ⴀ挀漀甀爀猀攀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 漀爀ഊ$2.00 for a bread-and-stew type feast (we call that a half-feast around here). ਀㜀⤀ 䠀漀眀 椀猀 琀栀椀猀 愀氀氀 戀攀椀渀最 猀攀爀瘀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀漀 椀猀 挀漀漀爀搀椀渀愀琀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀㼀 䌀漀渀猀甀氀琀 眀椀琀栀ഊthem. ਀㠀⤀ 圀栀漀 椀猀 礀漀甀爀 挀氀攀愀渀ⴀ甀瀀 挀爀攀眀 ⠀漀爀 愀爀攀 礀漀甀 愀氀猀漀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀椀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀愀琀㼀⤀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀挀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀椀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 椀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 攀愀猀礀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 礀漀甀爀 ∀搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀∀⸀ഊNext I suggest you begin by using already redacted sources for your recipes. ਀䄀 最漀漀搀 漀渀攀 琀漀 猀琀愀爀琀 眀椀琀栀 ⠀氀攀琀✀猀 最攀琀 礀漀甀 漀昀昀 漀渀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀 昀漀漀琀Ⰰ 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊdocumentable food right away!), is Elizabeth and Cariadoc's Miscellany, ਀眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 漀渀氀椀渀攀 愀琀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀猀挀愀⸀漀爀最  ⸀ 夀漀甀✀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 挀氀椀挀欀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䄀爀琀猀ഊand Sciences Icon. Also there you will find other useful resources such as ਀∀吀愀欀攀 愀 吀栀漀甀猀愀渀搀 䔀最最猀 漀爀 䴀漀爀攀∀ 戀礀 䌀椀渀搀礀 刀攀渀昀爀漀眀⸀ 䘀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 昀椀爀猀琀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ 䤀ഊsuggest you stick to one source, plan a menu (easy=2-3 helpers)--one course ਀漀昀 搀椀猀栀攀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 洀椀搀搀氀椀渀最ⴀ栀愀爀搀㴀㐀ⴀ㘀 栀攀氀瀀攀爀猀ⴀⴀⴀ琀眀漀 挀漀甀爀猀攀猀 漀昀 搀椀猀栀攀猀Ⰰ 漀爀ഊdownright exhausting=6-10 helpers, three or more courses of dishes). ਀ഊAs a rough European rule of thumb, pick your meat and surrounding ਀挀漀洀瀀氀椀洀攀渀琀愀爀礀 搀椀猀栀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀 昀漀爀 攀愀挀栀 挀漀甀爀猀攀⸀ 䤀渀挀氀甀搀攀 愀 瘀攀最攀琀攀愀戀氀攀ഊdish for the vegetarians, a starch dish, and a fruit dish, along with your ਀洀攀愀琀 搀椀猀栀 琀漀 猀愀琀椀猀昀礀 琀栀攀 䴀伀䐀䔀刀一 搀椀渀攀爀猀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 瘀漀挀愀氀 愀渀搀 瀀攀爀渀椀挀欀椀琀礀ഊgroup of eaters to whom you must cater. Dessert is optional, but a good ਀椀搀攀愀Ⰰ 攀猀瀀攀猀挀椀愀氀氀礀 椀昀 椀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 昀爀甀椀琀 琀愀爀琀猀Ⰰ 猀洀愀氀氀ഊcakes, candies, etc. ਀ഊNow that you have a menu planned, cost it out with supermarket prices. If ਀琀栀椀猀 愀搀搀猀 甀瀀 琀漀 漀瘀攀爀 礀漀甀爀 戀甀搀最攀琀Ⰰ 爀攀ⴀ瀀氀愀渀 礀漀甀爀 洀攀渀甀⸀ 䄀氀眀愀礀猀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 ∀昀甀搀最攀ഊfactor" of about 10% of the budget that you plan on NOT spending, so that ਀礀漀甀 挀愀渀 爀甀渀 漀甀琀 愀渀搀 最攀琀 琀栀漀猀攀 攀砀琀爀愀猀 礀漀甀 昀漀爀最漀琀 琀漀 戀爀椀渀最⼀戀甀礀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊevent without busting the budget. For very small events, this is crucial!!!! ਀ഊNext, scale down your menu to serve 8-10,and invite over a few SCA friends ਀愀渀搀 礀漀甀 栀攀氀瀀椀渀最 挀漀漀欀猀⸀ 䌀漀漀欀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 爀攀挀漀爀搀 礀漀甀爀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 漀昀ഊcooking AND their reactions to the dishes. Re-plan and cost your menu ਀愀挀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 琀漀 愀渀礀 挀栀愀渀最攀猀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 挀愀渀 搀漀 琀栀椀猀 琀攀猀琀ⴀ挀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀 椀渀猀琀愀氀氀洀攀渀琀猀 椀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀ഊthe dishes go together well. Once you have all this down, get a check from ਀琀栀攀 最爀漀甀瀀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀氀氀漀眀渀愀挀攀 瀀攀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 最漀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀椀猀ഊamount, my method is to pay out of pocket and get re-imbursed later, tho ਀琀栀椀猀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀攀搀 琀漀 洀攀 漀渀氀礀 漀渀挀攀 椀渀 ㄀㌀ 礀攀愀爀猀 漀昀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀ 䄀琀 琀栀椀猀 瀀漀椀渀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀ഊmust keep your receipts faithfully, because you will have to account for ਀攀瘀攀爀礀 瀀攀渀渀渀礀 眀椀琀栀 愀 爀攀挀攀椀瀀琀 漀爀 攀氀猀攀 瀀愀礀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀℀ 䤀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 愀ഊspecial envelope in my purse for these receipts, with a running tab of what ਀䤀 猀瀀攀渀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 愀渀礀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 挀愀猀栀 䤀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀 猀漀 䤀ഊwon't have to confuse the troll with sums taken from the cash box for ਀攀洀攀爀最攀渀挀礀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀⸀ 刀攀ⴀ搀攀瀀漀猀椀琀 愀渀礀 攀砀挀攀猀猀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 愀挀挀漀甀渀琀 愀渀搀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀ഊevent and write a check for that amount to the shire, so there is always a ਀瀀愀瀀攀爀 琀爀愀椀氀 漀昀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 搀椀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀渀攀礀 愀渀搀 眀栀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 渀攀砀琀 猀琀攀瀀 椀猀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀 搀攀琀愀椀氀攀搀 猀挀栀攀搀甀氀攀 漀昀 眀栀愀琀 最攀琀猀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 眀栀攀渀ഊonsite, and what can safely be prepared ahead of time, what prepwork gets ਀搀漀渀攀 攀愀爀氀礀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀攀渀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀 漀爀搀攀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀爀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀ഊin. This will be posted on the kitchen door or some other handy place the ਀搀愀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀⸀ 倀甀琀 愀 瀀攀渀 漀爀 瀀攀渀挀椀氀 眀椀琀栀 椀琀 猀漀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 挀爀漀猀猀 椀琀攀洀猀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀ഊget done. This way, anyone who comes in volunteering to help should consult ਀琀栀愀琀 猀挀栀攀搀甀氀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀栀攀礀 挀愀渀 搀漀⸀ 䤀渀挀氀甀搀攀 搀椀猀栀 眀愀猀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊkitchen schedule. ਀ഊNow you have a schedule. You also need a presentation menu (at least 1 per ਀琀愀戀氀攀Ⰰ 洀愀搀攀 甀瀀 愀 昀攀眀 搀愀礀猀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 椀渀 挀愀猀攀 漀昀 攀洀攀爀最攀渀挀礀 挀栀愀渀最攀猀⤀愀渀搀 愀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊlist or at least ingredients list to post (I make a pamphlet with the ਀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀Ⰰ 爀攀搀愀挀琀攀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 洀攀渀甀 漀渀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 昀爀漀渀琀ഊcover, but folks here think I'm nuts to do it---it has come in handy many ਀洀愀渀礀 琀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀⸀ 氀愀琀攀氀礀 椀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最 漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀 琀漀ഊe-mail an entire feast's recipes to different people who wanted a pamphlet ਀戀甀琀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 猀渀愀最 漀渀攀 椀渀 琀椀洀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀一漀眀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 眀漀爀欀愀戀氀攀 洀攀渀甀⸀ 䴀甀氀琀椀瀀氀礀 礀漀甀爀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 戀礀 琀栀攀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀攀搀ഊonboard (get a concrete number 1 week ahead, if possible!!!). Sort out the ਀漀搀搀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 昀漀甀渀搀 漀渀氀礀 椀渀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀ⴀⴀ礀漀甀✀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀洀ഊseperately from the rest of the groceries. The next step is to call a ਀爀攀猀琀愀甀爀愀渀琀 猀甀瀀瀀氀礀 栀漀甀猀攀 愀渀搀 瀀爀椀挀攀 漀甀琀 戀甀氀欀 椀琀攀洀猀 ⠀椀攀㨀 栀愀氀昀 愀 挀愀猀攀 漀昀 氀攀愀昀ഊlettuce is $12.00 currently in my neck of the woods. That's 12 large heads ਀漀昀 最爀攀攀渀 漀爀 爀攀搀 氀攀愀昀 氀攀琀琀甀挀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 眀漀甀氀搀 挀漀猀琀 洀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 ␀㈀ ⸀   椀渀 琀栀攀ഊgrocery store. Half a case of lemons (perhaps 50 or so)is 9.00, which beats ਀㐀ⴀ昀漀爀ⴀ␀㄀⸀   愀渀礀 搀愀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀攀攀欀⸀ 䤀 樀甀猀琀 戀漀甀最栀琀 ㈀ 挀愀猀攀猀 漀昀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 瀀愀爀琀猀 昀漀爀ഊ.55 a pound, fresh---never frozen, and packed specially for me. They will ਀猀攀氀氀 洀攀 甀渀琀爀椀洀洀攀搀 眀栀漀氀攀 琀漀瀀 爀漀甀渀搀猀Ⰰ 猀琀椀氀氀 挀爀礀ⴀ漀ⴀ瘀愀挀挀攀搀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 愀 猀椀最渀椀昀椀挀愀渀琀ഊdiscount (maybe 1.29-40 a lb.). They gave me a 3% discount for ordering a ਀眀攀攀欀 愀栀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 愀 㔀─ 搀椀猀挀漀甀渀琀 昀漀爀 渀漀渀ⴀ瀀爀漀昀椀琀 最爀漀甀瀀ⴀⴀⴀⴀ最攀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀愀砀 渀甀洀戀攀爀ഊfrom your seneschal and call ahead of time!!!!). You are now significantly ਀甀渀搀攀爀 戀甀搀最攀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀爀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀 氀漀瘀攀猀 礀漀甀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 最漀漀搀 琀栀椀渀最⸀ 伀爀搀攀爀 礀漀甀爀ഊgroceries for pick-up early the day of the event unless there are storage ਀昀愀挀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀 漀渀猀椀琀攀Ⰰ 椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 挀愀猀攀 最攀琀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 戀攀昀漀爀攀⸀ 吀愀欀攀 愀 戀攀攀昀礀 最甀礀ഊto help you load/unload them. Then take a nap, you're going to need it! ਀ഊThe day of the event, arrive onsite and post your schedule. Stick to it if ਀愀琀 愀氀氀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀⸀ 䄀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀猀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀ഊservers have talked to you and the head server, so there is no confusion and ਀琀栀攀礀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 愀爀攀 爀漀甀最栀氀礀 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 愀渀搀 栀漀眀 琀漀 瀀爀漀渀漀甀渀挀攀 琀栀攀ഊnames, and who is serving which tables. ਀ഊIt is handy to have a person coordinating the dishes travel from the kitchen ਀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀最椀渀最 愀爀攀愀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀✀猀 琀愀欀椀渀最 漀昀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀最椀渀最ഊarea, if you are serving family-style or individually (not!). ਀ഊWhen it is time to toast the cooks, make sure someone comes to get you, so ਀礀漀甀 挀愀渀 琀愀欀攀 愀 戀漀眀⸀ 圀栀椀氀攀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 氀漀漀欀 愀爀漀甀渀搀⸀ 䄀氀氀 琀栀漀猀攀 栀愀瀀瀀礀ഊfaces are there because you did a great job! ਀ഊThat's my method. It has never failed me. I hope it works for you, too! ਀ഊPS We didn't cover what to do about Royalty, etc. Do you need to know that now? ਀ഊAoife ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ 㔀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㄀㨀 㐀㨀㄀  ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Decker, Margaret" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀攀愀猀琀 椀渀昀漀ഊ ਀䴀椀欀攀 䠀漀戀戀猀 眀愀渀琀攀搀 椀渀昀漀 漀渀 昀攀愀猀琀猀⸀ 䠀攀爀攀✀猀 洀椀渀攀⸀ഊPlan your Menu as far in advance as possible. Learn which food suppliers ਀⠀椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 眀栀漀氀攀猀愀氀攀 椀昀 氀攀最愀氀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 愀爀攀愀⤀ 猀攀氀氀 琀栀攀 椀琀攀洀猀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 愀琀ഊthe highest price and which at the lowest for each item. Use the highest ਀瀀爀椀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 猀攀琀琀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 戀甀搀最攀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 眀愀琀挀栀 昀漀爀 猀愀氀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 搀爀漀瀀 琀栀椀渀最猀 戀攀氀漀眀ഊthe lowest price and pick up what you can that way. Now purchase remaining ਀椀琀攀洀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 氀漀眀攀猀琀 瀀爀椀挀攀搀 瘀攀渀搀漀爀猀 漀渀 礀漀甀爀 氀椀猀琀⸀ 䈀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀搀ഊall non-food items such as aluminium foil in your budget. Base price for the ਀昀攀愀猀琀 漀渀 眀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀爀攀愀欀 攀瘀攀渀 椀昀 漀渀氀礀 ㈀⼀㌀爀搀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 礀漀甀 瀀氀愀渀 漀渀ഊfeeding at table show up. I have never lost money on a feast when I followed ਀琀栀攀 愀戀漀瘀攀 攀瘀攀渀 眀栀攀渀 昀漀漀搀 瀀爀椀挀攀猀 昀氀甀挀甀愀琀攀搀 眀椀氀搀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀䈀愀爀漀渀攀猀猀 䴀愀爀最愀爀椀琀攀 搀甀 䈀愀琀琀攀渀栀攀氀洀 眀栀漀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 漀渀氀礀 氀甀爀欀猀 愀渀搀 氀攀琀猀 栀攀爀 戀攀氀漀瘀攀搀ഊBear say it all. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ 㤀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㐀㨀㔀㘀㨀㐀㠀 ⴀ 㜀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 䔀䬀 䌀爀漀眀渀 䘀攀愀猀琀ഊ ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 漀渀 圀栀愀琀 圀攀渀琀 圀爀漀渀最㨀ഊ>... and a populace who simply ਀㸀爀攀昀甀猀攀搀 琀漀 爀攀愀搀 琀栀攀 洀攀渀甀 愀渀搀 昀攀愀猀琀 渀漀琀攀猀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 栀攀挀欀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀ഊ>place (my usual kitchen "bouncer" was away squiring his knight and ਀㸀昀椀最栀琀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 吀漀甀爀渀攀礀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䰀攀 䴀攀渀愀最椀攀爀 最椀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 愀琀 漀渀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀Ⰰ 愀 氀椀猀琀 漀昀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀渀攀氀ഊthat were needed for one particular wedding dinner and among them we find: ਀ഊ"Item, big strong sergeants to guard the door." ਀ഊElizabeth/Betty Cook ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀  㤀㨀㄀㐀㨀㔀  ⴀ 㘀   ⠀䴀䐀吀⤀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀愀戀椀愀 㰀猀愀戀椀愀 愀琀 甀渀洀⸀攀搀甀㸀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䄀氀氀攀爀最礀 爀愀渀琀伀渀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀Ⰰ 䔀爀椀渀 䬀攀渀渀礀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀㸀 䰀椀欀攀 䤀 猀愀椀搀 戀攀昀漀爀攀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 洀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀㸀 挀愀渀✀琀 攀愀琀 攀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀椀挀 琀栀椀渀最猀 椀昀 眀攀 挀愀渀✀琀 戀攀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 戀椀琀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀㸀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀 氀椀欀攀 挀爀漀猀猀 挀漀渀琀愀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀⸀㸀㸀 䌀氀愀爀椀挀椀愀䤀 洀甀猀琀 眀栀漀氀攀 栀攀愀爀琀氀礀 愀最爀攀攀 琀栀愀琀 挀爀漀猀猀 挀漀渀琀愀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 愀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀Ⰰ 戀甀琀䤀栀愀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀 爀攀氀愀琀椀漀渀猀栀椀瀀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀猀 琀漀 戀攀 栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀⸀  䈀礀琀愀氀欀椀渀最 漀瀀攀渀氀礀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 甀瀀挀漀洀椀渀最 挀漀甀爀猀攀猀 琀栀攀礀 挀愀渀 琀栀攀渀猀瀀攀愀欀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 愀渀搀 愀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀椀洀攀 爀攀焀甀攀猀琀 愀 椀猀漀氀愀琀攀搀猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀⸀  吀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 爀攀焀甀攀猀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 椀猀 昀漀爀 愀瘀攀最椀琀愀爀椀愀渀 琀漀 爀攀焀甀攀猀琀 愀 猀攀瀀攀爀愀琀攀 戀漀眀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀椀挀攀 ⠀漀爀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀⤀ 搀椀猀栀琀栀愀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 琀爀愀礀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 攀砀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 洀攀愀琀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀⸀  䤀渀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀 琀漀瀀漀猀琀椀渀最 愀 氀椀猀琀 漀昀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀愀渀琀猀 愀琀 最愀琀攀Ⰰ 椀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 漀渀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀猀攀爀瘀攀爀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀甀猀 最椀瘀攀 愀 瘀攀爀戀愀氀 爀甀渀搀漀眀渀⼀眀愀爀渀椀渀最 漀昀 昀漀漀搀猀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 最漀椀渀最漀甀琀⸀  䄀渀 甀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀 洀椀猀栀愀瀀 愀琀 愀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 昀攀愀猀琀 栀愀搀 甀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀猀眀愀爀渀 攀愀挀栀 琀愀戀氀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 最愀爀氀椀挀 猀愀甀挀攀 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 猀愀昀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 愀氀氀攀爀最椀挀 琀漀洀甀猀栀爀漀漀洀猀 ⠀琀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 搀甀攀 琀漀 愀 搀椀猀栀 漀昀 搀椀挀攀搀 洀甀猀栀爀漀漀洀猀 戀攀椀渀最 戀甀洀瀀攀搀 愀渀搀昀愀氀氀椀渀最 漀渀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 搀椀猀栀攀猀⤀⸀  䤀渀 氀椀最栀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀愀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀猀琀漀昀 洀礀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 挀爀攀眀 眀攀爀攀 渀攀眀 琀漀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 眀攀 愀氀猀漀 洀攀琀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 琀椀洀攀猀椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀 琀漀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀 挀爀漀猀猀 挀漀渀琀愀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 栀漀眀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 椀琀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀猀琀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 ⴀ 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 眀栀礀 ⴀ 愀爀攀 瘀攀爀礀 最漀漀搀愀戀漀甀琀 戀攀椀渀最 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀Ⰰ 椀琀 搀漀攀猀 渀漀琀 猀攀攀洀 琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀愀琀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 瀀漀爀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀瀀甀戀氀椀挀 愀爀攀 愀眀愀爀攀⸀匀愀戀椀愀 ⠀猀愀戀椀愀 愀琀 甀渀洀⸀攀搀甀⤀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㘀㨀 㜀㨀 㔀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Decker, Terry D." ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀栀椀瘀愀氀爀礀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 愀渀猀眀攀爀 椀猀 ∀挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 栀愀氀氀⸀∀  圀栀漀攀瘀攀爀 琀愀欀攀猀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀椀戀椀氀椀琀礀ഊfor the feast (not necessarily the cook, although I have done double duty), ਀渀攀攀搀猀 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 栀愀氀氀Ⰰ 爀攀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 攀渀琀攀爀琀愀椀渀洀攀渀琀⸀ഊThey handle the organizing, scheduling, and timing of everything occurring ਀椀渀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 栀愀氀氀⸀  吀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 昀攀愀猀琀猀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 栀愀搀 眀攀爀攀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 欀渀攀眀 眀栀愀琀ഊentertainment had been scheduled in what order and how long the performances ਀眀漀甀氀搀 爀甀渀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 琀栀攀 栀椀最栀 琀愀戀氀攀 眀椀猀栀攀猀 琀漀 栀漀氀搀 挀漀甀爀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀爀 栀愀氀氀 挀漀ⴀ漀爀搀椀渀愀琀漀爀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 挀漀甀爀琀ഊherald need to work out the approximate timing of the awards and ਀瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  吀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 椀猀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀椀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 渀漀琀椀昀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀漀ⴀ漀爀搀椀渀愀琀漀爀ഊand the herald of the actually timing of the courses. In this case, let the ਀栀攀爀愀氀搀 愀渀渀漀甀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 愀渀搀 猀琀愀氀氀 琀栀攀 挀漀甀爀琀Ⰰ 眀栀椀氀攀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 椀猀 搀攀氀椀瘀攀爀攀搀ഊand people fall to eating. ਀ഊIf the desire is for entertainment, select your entertainers and arrange ਀礀漀甀爀 攀渀琀攀爀琀愀椀渀洀攀渀琀 琀漀 猀甀椀琀⸀  䤀昀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 渀漀琀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀Ⰰ 栀愀瘀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 眀椀猀栀ഊto entertain during the feast sign up with the hall co-ordinator to be ਀瀀爀漀瀀攀爀氀礀 猀挀栀攀搀甀氀攀搀 ∀椀渀 琀栀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀猀 漀昀 昀愀椀爀渀攀猀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀甀爀琀攀猀礀⸀∀  䘀椀渀搀 漀甀琀ഊwhat they intend to do and the approximate length, then it can be scheduled. ਀ഊPosition your strongest performers, the ones who can command an audience in ਀愀 琀攀洀瀀攀猀琀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀甀爀猀攀猀 愀爀攀 琀漀 戀攀 搀攀氀椀瘀攀爀攀搀⸀  䤀渀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀ഊhave bettery time control and are less likely to have their feelings hurt if ਀礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 猀琀攀瀀 漀渀 琀栀攀洀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 眀漀爀欀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 最漀漀搀 瀀攀爀昀漀爀洀攀爀猀ഊcan stall a delay in the kitchen and present the delivery of the next course ਀椀渀 猀甀挀栀 愀 洀愀渀渀攀爀 愀猀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀攀爀琀愀椀渀洀攀渀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 眀漀爀欀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䤀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀猀 渀漀琀 樀甀猀琀 昀漀漀搀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 愀 瀀攀爀昀漀爀洀愀渀挀攀ഊof the art of dining. To make it work, you need to plan what will occur, ਀瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 漀挀挀甀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀漀洀洀甀渀椀挀愀琀攀 琀栀攀 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀挀挀甀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀ഊthose who will take part. The feast begins with the layout of the hall and ਀攀渀搀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀愀欀椀渀最 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 最愀爀戀愀最攀 愀渀搀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 漀挀挀甀爀爀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊfeast hall that falls in between needs organization and scheduling as much ਀愀猀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀欀 椀渀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀⸀ഊ ਀䈀攀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:48:08 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䐀攀挀欀攀爀Ⰰ 吀攀爀爀礀 䐀⸀∀ 㰀吀攀爀爀礀䐀 愀琀 䠀攀愀氀琀栀⸀匀琀愀琀攀⸀伀䬀⸀唀匀㸀ഊSubject: SC - RE: Limiting the unexpected at Feasts ਀ഊ> One thing that helps to be able to stick to a published menu is knowing ਀㸀 琀栀攀 昀愀挀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 琀漀 礀漀甀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 瀀爀攀昀攀爀愀戀氀礀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 洀漀渀琀栀猀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䔀甀爀椀漀氀 漀昀 䰀漀琀栀椀愀渀ഊ ਀䬀渀漀眀椀渀最 琀栀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 昀愀挀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀 椀猀 渀椀挀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 椀猀 渀漀琀 愀 最甀愀爀愀渀琀攀攀 漀昀 戀攀椀渀最ഊable to stick to the menu. I've had sites change within two weeks of an ਀攀瘀攀渀琀 愀渀搀 䤀✀瘀攀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀搀 昀漀甀爀 漀瘀攀渀猀 搀礀椀渀最 椀渀 猀甀挀挀攀猀猀椀漀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 琀栀爀攀攀ഊhours before the feast. ਀ഊFrankly, for me, a feast is an exercise in logistics. Creating a menu that ਀挀愀渀 戀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀 愀琀 愀渀礀 漀昀 愀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 猀椀琀攀猀Ⰰ 攀猀琀愀戀氀椀猀栀椀渀最 琀栀攀 戀甀搀最攀琀Ⰰഊobtaining the best food at the best price and storing it, laying out the ਀昀攀愀猀琀 栀愀氀氀Ⰰ 漀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀 愀爀爀愀渀最椀渀最 琀栀攀 攀渀琀攀爀琀愀椀渀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 栀愀渀搀氀椀渀最 琀栀攀 瀀爀攀ⴀ攀瘀攀渀琀ഊfood preparation, organizing the delivery of food and equipment to the ਀愀瀀瀀漀椀渀琀攀搀 氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀 愀琀 琀栀攀 愀瀀瀀漀椀渀琀攀搀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀渀搀 搀攀氀椀瘀攀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊplanned meal to the tables as planned. ਀ഊControlling what you can limits the unexpected, but it doesn't protect you ਀昀爀漀洀 洀愀樀漀爀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀Ⰰ 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 琀栀攀 昀漀甀爀 漀瘀攀渀猀 搀礀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 猀琀漀瀀 琀栀攀ഊclock for the feast. If you have prepared properly, it does give you the ਀漀瀀瀀漀爀琀甀渀椀琀礀 琀漀 漀瘀攀爀挀漀洀攀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀椀最最攀猀琀 搀爀愀眀戀愀挀欀 䤀 昀椀渀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀椀猀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 椀渀琀攀爀渀愀氀椀稀攀 琀栀攀ഊdetails over so long a period, I forget to communicate some of those details ਀琀漀 洀礀 愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀琀猀 ⠀琀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 瀀漀椀渀琀攀搀 漀甀琀 戀礀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀琀猀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀 愀洀ഊnow taking pains to correct the flaw). ਀ഊBear ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㔀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㘀㨀㈀㔀㨀㌀㐀 ⴀ 㐀  ഊFrom: mermayde at juno.com (Christine A Seelye-King) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䜀爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀℀ഊ ਀㸀䤀 戀甀礀 愀渀琀椀戀愀挀琀攀爀椀愀氀 猀漀愀瀀 戀礀 琀栀攀 最愀氀氀漀渀⸀ 䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀琀攀渀 昀漀漀搀 瀀漀椀猀漀渀椀渀最 愀 昀攀眀ഊ>times (not by my own hand) and I'm a freak about making sure that neither ਀㸀䤀 渀漀爀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 䤀 昀攀攀搀 攀瘀攀爀 最攀琀猀 椀琀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀䌀攀氀愀搀漀渀ഊ ਀䴀攀 琀漀漀⸀  䤀 氀漀瘀攀 愀渀琀椀戀愀挀琀攀爀椀愀氀 猀漀愀瀀⸀  䤀 戀愀琀栀攀 眀椀琀栀 椀琀⸀  吀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 琀栀椀渀最ഊabout it is (from a feastcrat's point of view), is that with a bottle of ਀椀琀 猀椀琀琀椀渀最 漀渀 愀 栀愀渀搀猀椀渀欀Ⰰ 瘀漀氀甀渀琀攀攀爀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 眀漀爀欀攀爀猀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 栀椀渀琀 琀栀愀琀ഊthat's why the handsink is there, you are washing your hands to kill the ਀戀愀挀琀攀爀椀愀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 礀漀甀 琀漀甀挀栀 昀漀漀搀℀  匀甀挀栀 愀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 猀漀ഊhard to get into people's heads before this simple piece of 20th century ਀挀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀椀猀洀 挀愀洀攀 椀渀琀漀 戀攀椀渀最⸀  䄀栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䄀最攀猀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀ഊbeen (without germs? why, you might as well try to re-create the Middle ਀䄀最攀猀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 挀栀甀爀挀栀℀ 䈀眀甀愀ⴀ䠀愀栀愀栀愀栀愀栀℀⤀ഊ ਀䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 䌀栀爀椀猀琀椀愀渀渀愀 䴀愀挀䜀爀愀椀渀Ⰰ 伀倀Ⰰ 䴀攀爀椀搀椀攀猀ഊwho can tell you about all kinds of food bourne illnesses, and will, if ਀礀漀甀 琀愀欀攀 栀攀爀 瀀爀攀氀椀洀椀渀愀爀礀 䘀攀愀猀琀 䄀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀椀漀渀 䌀氀愀猀猀 愀琀 愀 刀漀礀愀氀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀ഊof Meridies event (event and class plug) ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㌀  䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㈀㌀㨀㐀㄀㨀㄀㘀 ⴀ 㐀  ഊFrom: Bonne ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 挀漀甀爀琀猀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最 氀漀渀最ഊ ਀㸀 䘀爀愀渀欀氀礀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀猀 樀漀戀 琀漀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 挀漀洀洀甀渀椀挀愀琀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀ഊ> when dinner will be served early enough so that plans can be changed, or ਀㸀 琀漀 猀攀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀✀猀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀 洀漀瘀攀 愀氀漀渀最 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀甀爀琀 挀愀渀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀 愀渀搀ഊ> dinner be served at the scheduled time. ਀ഊAnd it is the cooks job to arrange for some leeway with the food. The cook ਀漀甀最栀琀 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 洀漀瘀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 愀 栀愀氀昀 栀漀甀爀 漀爀 攀瘀攀渀 愀 昀甀氀氀 栀漀甀爀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 眀愀礀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀ഊgoing into a panic. It seems to me that arranging for the first dish, or more ਀琀栀愀渀 漀渀攀 搀椀猀栀 愀琀 愀氀氀 琀漀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀 挀爀甀挀椀愀氀 琀椀洀椀渀最 椀猀 昀漀漀氀椀猀栀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀 䤀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀ഊre-using serving dishes is a consideration some places. I've heard of feast ਀爀甀渀渀椀渀最 栀漀甀爀猀 氀愀琀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 猀攀攀渀 椀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀 猀琀攀眀愀爀搀猀 樀漀戀 琀漀ഊkeep the cook informed throughout the day so that the cook can plan accordingly. ਀ഊLast feast I was at started out with platters of cold foods: breads, cheeses, ਀瀀椀挀欀氀攀猀㬀 琀栀攀渀 洀漀瘀攀搀 漀渀 琀漀 猀漀甀瀀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 椀渀 挀爀漀挀欀瀀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀ഊserved a little sooner or later, as needed. Then came the meats and pies that ਀栀愀搀 琀漀 戀攀 䠀伀吀⸀ 䌀漀甀爀琀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 爀甀渀 氀愀琀攀 ⠀漀甀爀 戀愀爀漀渀 氀椀欀攀猀 栀椀猀 猀甀瀀瀀攀爀℀⤀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀攀ഊcold platters and second course were eaten leisurely to allow time for the ਀洀攀愀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀椀攀猀 琀漀 昀椀渀椀猀栀⸀  䤀昀 挀漀甀爀琀 栀愀搀 爀甀渀 氀愀琀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 挀漀甀爀猀攀猀 挀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀ഊbeen hurried by combining them. Or either dish could have been held back and ਀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 氀愀琀攀爀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀ 倀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 琀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 眀愀椀琀椀渀最 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀琀栀漀甀最栀 䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 猀漀洀攀 渀攀爀瘀攀 猀愀礀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 眀栀攀渀 䤀✀瘀攀 渀漀琀 戀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀搀 挀漀漀欀⸀  䤀ഊthink I'll do my first while Wulfbrand is Baron. He likes his supper and won't ਀攀愀猀椀氀礀 氀攀琀 椀琀 戀攀 搀攀氀愀礀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䈀漀渀渀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:03:14 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀圀攀椀猀稀戀爀漀搀Ⰰ 䈀愀爀戀愀爀愀 䄀∀ 㰀䈀愀爀戀愀爀愀⸀圀攀椀猀稀戀爀漀搀 愀琀 匀圀⸀䈀漀攀椀渀最⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: RE: SC - HELP!!!!! ਀ഊAlys here. Most of you won't know me because I dont post often, and ਀䜀甀渀琀栀愀爀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 椀渀琀爀漀搀甀挀攀猀 洀攀 愀猀 䈀愀爀戀愀爀愀Ⰰ 猀漀 椀昀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 洀攀琀 洀攀 礀漀甀 猀琀椀氀氀ഊdont know Alys. I am Gunthar and Thyra's roommate, and have worked with ਀栀椀洀 漀渀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀愀爀最攀 昀攀愀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀 愀猀 搀漀渀攀⸀  䴀礀 洀愀椀渀 椀渀瀀甀琀 椀猀ഊorganization (Gunthar has none, so it is needed). Here are some things ਀琀栀愀琀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 昀漀爀 甀猀⸀ഊ ਀圀栀攀渀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 瀀漀爀琀椀漀渀椀渀最 昀漀爀 琀栀愀琀 氀愀爀最攀 愀 最爀漀甀瀀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 琀眀漀 爀甀氀攀猀 漀昀ഊthumb, plan for 4oz of each meat per person, and no matter how many ਀瘀攀最最椀攀猀 礀漀甀 瀀氀愀渀 漀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 挀甀琀 椀琀 椀渀 栀愀氀昀⸀  唀渀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀ഊgrill or stir-fry them with seaseme oil, then people can't get enough of ਀琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 昀攀愀猀琀 䜀甀渀琀栀愀爀 搀椀搀 ⠀匀琀攀瀀瀀攀猀 ㄀㈀琀栀 一椀最栀琀Ⰰ 㔀   瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⤀ 䤀 琀漀漀欀ഊthe receipies and made a spread sheet of the ingredients. This helped ਀洀攀 搀漀 昀攀眀攀爀 猀栀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 爀甀渀猀 猀椀渀挀攀 洀愀渀礀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 搀甀瀀氀椀挀愀琀攀搀⸀  䤀ഊmultiplied the receipes to make enough for 20% fewer people than we were ਀攀砀瀀攀挀琀椀渀最⸀  一漀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 眀椀氀氀 攀愀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀一攀砀琀 䤀 眀攀渀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀爀攀 愀渀搀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 戀甀礀 愀 琀栀椀渀最⸀  䤀 最漀琀 瀀爀椀挀椀渀最 漀渀ഊeverything from at least two sources. When you are cooking for this ਀洀愀渀礀 椀琀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 攀愀猀礀 琀漀 猀瀀攀渀搀 愀 琀漀渀 漀昀 洀漀渀攀礀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 椀琀⸀  䄀昀琀攀爀ഊdeciding where the best deals were and what things we just couldnt ਀愀昀昀漀爀搀 琀漀 搀漀 䤀 栀愀搀 愀 挀漀洀瀀爀攀栀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 猀栀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 氀椀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀椀猀 猀攀攀洀猀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 眀漀爀欀 椀渀琀攀渀猀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 眀漀爀琀栀ഊit in the long run. ਀ഊAlys ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 䄀甀最 ㄀㤀㤀㠀  ㄀㨀㄀ 㨀㈀㤀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: allilyn at juno.com (LYN M PARKINSON) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䠀䔀䰀倀℀℀℀℀℀ഊ ਀䌀栀攀挀欀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀猀 猀漀漀渀 愀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀⸀  䬀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 瀀漀琀猀Ⰰ 瀀愀渀猀Ⰰ 洀椀砀椀渀最ഊbowls, electric gadgets and all the cooking stuff you will have access ਀琀漀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀✀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 戀爀椀渀最⸀  䘀漀爀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 礀漀甀 戀爀椀渀最Ⰰ 最攀琀 猀漀洀攀ഊgood firm colored tape, in the hardware store, and put a piece on each ਀椀琀攀洀⸀  䠀攀氀瀀猀 琀漀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀✀猀 礀漀甀爀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 愀 氀漀渀最Ⰰ 昀爀愀稀稀氀攀搀 搀愀礀 愀渀搀ഊnight. Look for 'work stations' you can set up: Tape up a copy of the ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀 琀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 氀椀猀琀 愀琀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 漀昀 椀琀 搀攀琀愀椀氀椀渀最ഊitems: 9 x 13 pans (4), large slotted spoon, bread knife, cutting board, ਀攀琀挀⸀  匀攀爀瘀攀 椀渀琀漀 砀砀砀 搀椀猀栀攀猀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 氀愀爀最攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 猀瀀漀漀渀猀⸀  吀栀愀琀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀ഊthing. Keep an extra copy in a notebook in case it falls off the wall ਀椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 最漀漀瀀⸀ഊ ਀䜀攀琀 愀 渀漀琀攀戀漀漀欀 漀爀 昀漀氀搀攀爀Ⰰ 渀漀眀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀琀愀爀琀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 瀀爀椀渀琀漀甀琀猀 漀昀 瀀漀猀琀猀 礀漀甀ഊget that are helpful. Add all your notes, questions, etc. You'll make ਀椀琀℀ഊ ਀䄀氀氀椀猀漀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:58:34 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 愀氀氀椀氀礀渀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䰀夀一 䴀 倀䄀刀䬀䤀一匀伀一⤀ഊSubject: Re: SC - A question of concern... ਀ഊIncidentally, do you all know that Walmart's sells big boxes of non-latex ਀⠀猀漀洀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀攀爀最椀挀 琀漀 氀愀琀攀砀ⴀⴀ搀漀渀✀琀 最攀琀 琀栀漀猀攀⤀ 搀椀猀瀀漀猀愀戀氀攀 最氀漀瘀攀猀ഊquite cheaply? They are in the band-aid section. Great for handling raw ਀挀栀椀挀欀攀渀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀  䄀渀搀 眀攀愀爀椀渀最 琀漀 挀氀攀愀渀 愀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 甀猀椀渀最 椀琀⸀  䄀ഊzip-lock bag containing a dozen pairs of medium gloves costs almost ਀渀漀琀栀椀渀最 愀渀搀 挀漀甀氀搀 眀攀氀氀 戀攀 欀攀瀀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀 戀漀砀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀氀椀猀漀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:51:03 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䐀椀愀渀愀䘀椀漀渀愀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: SC - An unusual cooking method ਀ഊIn a message dated 8/12/98 6:57:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sunnie at exis.net ਀眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ<< A similar ਀ 洀攀琀栀漀搀 琀漀 琀愀欀椀渀最 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 漀爀 爀漀愀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 洀漀猀琀氀礀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 愀琀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 愀渀搀ഊputting them in coolers (no ice, of course). The meat continues to cook for up to 2 more hours in the cooler while you use the oven for other things. It works great when you have limited oven space. ਀ഊ Brenna >> ਀ഊ It does indeed! It's a standard technique in our only-two-oven site. We ਀搀漀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 琀栀椀渀最猀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀氀礀 昀椀爀猀琀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 琀漀 戀攀 猀愀昀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀ഊkeeps them hot until they are served. In fact, you have to be a bit careful--I ਀眀愀爀瀀攀搀 琀栀攀 椀渀渀攀爀 眀愀氀氀猀 漀昀 洀礀 漀眀渀 挀漀漀氀攀爀 ⠀吀栀愀渀欀 栀攀愀瘀攀渀猀 椀琀 ⨀眀愀猀⨀ 洀椀渀攀Ⰰ 渀漀琀ഊsomeone else's!) pouring one of Apicus' pork dishes in it while still ਀戀甀戀戀氀椀渀最⸀ 䤀 眀愀渀琀攀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 椀琀 猀琀愀礀攀搀 栀漀琀 甀渀琀椀氀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀琀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀ഊdid! ;-) We have even made bulgur by putting the grain in the cooler and ਀瀀漀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 栀漀琀 猀漀愀欀椀渀最 氀椀焀甀椀搀 漀瘀攀爀 椀琀Ⰰ 猀琀椀爀爀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀氀漀猀椀渀最 椀琀 甀瀀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀ഊwas needed. Worked beautifully! ਀ഊ Ldy Diana ਀ഊDate: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:45:15 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀爀攀渀渀愀 㰀猀甀渀渀椀攀 愀琀 攀砀椀猀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Safe temperatures (was: Cooking meat in coolers) ਀ഊ> Perhaps I should rephrase it. ਀㸀ഊ> Given the properties inherent in cooking poultry, would it be wise ਀㸀 琀漀 昀甀爀琀栀攀爀 挀漀漀欀 椀琀 椀渀 愀 挀漀漀氀攀爀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 ∀琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 搀愀渀最攀爀 稀漀渀攀∀ 洀愀礀 戀攀ഊ> attained? ਀ഊOkay, the whole story... we put the birds, drippings, pans and all in the ਀挀漀漀氀攀爀猀 猀漀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 椀猀 爀攀搀 栀漀琀 ⠀㌀㜀㔀 琀漀 㐀   搀攀最爀攀攀猀⤀ 眀栀攀渀 椀琀 椀猀 瀀甀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊcoolers. It helps even more if the coolers are lined with towels to radiate ਀攀瘀攀渀 洀漀爀攀 栀攀愀琀 愀渀搀 瀀爀漀琀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀氀攀爀猀 昀爀漀洀 戀甀爀渀 洀愀爀欀猀⸀  唀猀甀愀氀氀礀 琀栀攀 戀椀爀搀猀 猀瀀攀渀搀ഊan hour in the coolers. If it needs more, then more (if feast is delayed). We ਀栀愀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀 栀愀搀 琀漀 爀攀栀攀愀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 琀漀漀 栀漀琀 琀漀 栀愀渀搀氀攀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 瀀漀瀀 琀栀攀洀ഊback in the oven again. ਀ഊBrenna ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㘀 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㌀㨀㄀ 㨀㌀㈀ 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: LrdRas at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀椀猀栀 愀琀 䘀攀愀猀琀猀ഊ ਀猀椀愀渀愀渀 愀琀 最攀漀挀椀琀椀攀猀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ<< I got changed pretty quick into my normal garb, ਀ 爀愀渀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 昀漀爀琀栀 愀 倀愀琀椀渀愀 漀昀 匀漀氀攀猀⸀  圀栀愀琀 搀漀 礀漀甀ഊ know, everyone ate it. ਀ 䄀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 昀漀爀 洀礀 愀爀琀ഊ -Sienna >> ਀ഊI have bad experiences with fish at feasts (a certain eel pie and a sweet fish ਀挀甀猀琀愀爀搀 挀漀洀攀 琀漀 洀椀渀搀⤀ 䈀唀吀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀氀礀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 昀椀猀栀 愀琀 愀ഊfeast it has always gone over well and no leftovers. :-) ਀ഊWhen the decision to serve fish is being made, it is one of the few areas ਀眀栀攀爀攀 䤀 琀愀欀攀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 琀愀猀琀攀猀 椀渀琀漀 愀挀挀漀甀渀琀⸀  䄀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 猀攀爀瘀攀 愀 渀漀渀ⴀ瀀攀爀椀漀搀ഊdish at the main feast, I always serve fish simply prepared> say boiled (e.g., ਀猀愀甀琀攀攀搀⤀ 椀渀 漀氀椀瘀攀 漀椀氀 漀爀 搀爀攀搀最攀搀 椀渀 昀氀漀甀爀 愀渀搀 昀爀椀攀搀⸀  䈀礀 昀愀爀 琀栀攀 戀椀最最攀猀琀ഊconsideration when looking at fish as a potential course at a feast is expense ਀戀甀琀 挀栀漀漀猀椀渀最 眀栀椀琀椀渀最 漀爀 挀漀搀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 愀 最漀漀搀 愀氀琀攀爀渀愀琀椀瘀攀 琀漀 洀漀爀攀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀ഊbrands such as salmon or flounder. Including shrimp or scallops also is not ਀瀀爀漀栀椀戀椀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 挀栀漀瀀瀀攀搀 甀琀椀氀椀稀攀搀 椀渀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀砀琀愀渀琀ഊfrittour type recipes from Apicius or other period sources. ਀ഊIt is always a big hit and I have only received 2 complaints. One was from a ਀瀀攀爀猀漀渀 眀栀漀 眀愀猀 愀氀氀攀爀最椀挀 琀漀 昀椀猀栀⸀  䄀渀搀 漀渀攀 眀愀猀 昀爀漀洀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 眀愀渀琀攀搀 洀漀爀攀ഊwhen there was no more to serve. I suggested that the first person not eat the ਀昀椀猀栀 愀渀搀  椀渀瘀椀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 琀漀 樀漀椀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀猀 眀栀漀 眀攀爀攀 瀀椀挀欀椀渀最 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 氀攀昀琀ഊover bits and pies in the pan. :-) ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㌀  匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㈀ 㨀㄀㐀㨀㈀㐀 ⴀ 㐀  ഊFrom: "LHG, JRG" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 渀攀爀瘀攀猀ഊ ਀䤀昀 䤀 洀愀礀 戀攀 猀漀 戀漀氀搀 愀猀 琀漀 愀搀搀 洀礀 琀眀漀 瀀攀渀挀攀✀ 眀漀爀琀栀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䴀愀欀攀 礀漀甀爀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀挀栀攀搀甀氀攀 愀渀搀 栀愀渀最 椀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀⼀搀漀漀爀 眀椀琀栀 愀 瀀攀渀挀椀氀 漀渀 愀ഊstring. Cross off things that are done. If someone wanders in to volunteer ਀甀渀攀砀瀀攀挀琀攀搀氀礀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 琀栀攀渀 瀀漀椀渀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀 愀渀搀 猀愀礀 ∀椀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 漀渀ഊthe list you can accomplish?". If not right away, they will then know ਀⠀眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 焀甀椀稀稀椀渀最 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀礀 戀甀猀礀 欀椀琀挀栀椀渀椀攀爀ⴀⴀ琀栀愀琀✀猀 礀漀甀⤀ 眀栀攀渀 琀漀 爀攀琀甀爀渀 琀漀ഊhelp. The added benefit is that you know where you are timewise at a ਀最氀愀渀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀  䄀漀椀昀攀ഊ ਀ഊSubject: 1st time feastocrat seeking advice ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㌀ 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㐀㨀㈀㔀㨀 㔀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: allilyn at juno.com (LYN M PARKINSON) ਀吀漀㨀 愀渀最攀氀椀挀愀搀愀渀椀漀渀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊCC: him at gte.net, stefan at texas.net ਀ഊHi Tessa and Helen, ਀ഊThere is a big discussion going on between the list members of the ਀挀栀椀爀甀爀最攀漀渀猀 氀椀猀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 氀椀猀琀 椀渀 爀攀最愀爀搀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 猀愀昀攀琀礀⸀ഊThis is something for you two to think about. Perhaps you are ਀攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ 攀瘀攀渀 椀昀 渀漀琀 愀猀 匀䌀䄀 䬀椀琀挀栀攀渀 匀琀攀眀愀爀搀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀昀ഊso, I apologize for taking up your time. If not, a few things to ਀搀漀甀戀氀攀ⴀ挀栀攀挀欀㨀ഊ1. Make sure you and your assistants are healthy when working on the ਀昀漀漀搀ഊ ਀㈀⸀  䈀攀 瀀愀爀愀渀漀椀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 猀琀漀爀椀渀最 昀漀漀搀 挀氀攀愀渀氀礀Ⰰ 猀愀昀攀氀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀琀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀ഊtemperatures, and not leaving out--cooked or uncooked--for a long time. ਀ഊ3. Wash hands frequently, definately between touching different foods. ਀䬀攀攀瀀 愀 ㄀ ─ 戀氀攀愀挀栀 琀漀 眀愀琀攀爀 猀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀 栀愀渀搀礀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 爀椀渀猀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 栀愀渀搀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊfor washing cooking surfaces. Buy the anti-bacterial dishwashing liquids ਀爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 愀 戀愀爀最愀椀渀 戀爀愀渀搀⸀ഊ ਀㐀⸀  䤀昀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀猀Ⰰ 欀攀攀瀀 䰀伀吀匀 漀昀 挀漀漀氀攀爀猀 栀愀渀搀礀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 戀愀最猀 漀昀 椀挀攀Ⰰ 漀爀ഊfrozen, capped quart bottles in the bottom. Use something heavy--for ਀椀渀猀甀氀愀琀椀漀渀ⴀⴀ愀渀搀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀愀戀氀礀 氀椀最栀琀 爀攀昀氀攀挀琀椀瘀攀ⴀⴀ琀漀 琀栀爀漀眀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀氀攀爀猀ഊwhen closed. If serving from coolers, or for other uses, make nylon net ਀琀栀爀漀眀猀Ⰰ 眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 昀椀猀栀椀渀最 氀甀爀攀猀Ⰰ 琀漀 瀀甀琀 漀瘀攀爀 昀漀漀搀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 戀甀最猀ഊaway. Buy net in your shire colors. This stuff washes well. ਀ഊ5. Use different implements--spoons, knives, spatulas--for different ਀昀漀漀搀猀⸀  䤀✀洀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 戀愀搀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀Ⰰ 最爀愀戀戀椀渀最 洀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 猀瀀漀漀渀 漀爀 欀渀椀昀攀 愀渀搀ഊusing it over and over without doing more than a quick wipe. ਀ഊ6. Keep garbage bags closed--they draw flies. Close and dispose often. ਀吀栀攀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 戀愀最猀 挀愀渀 最漀 愀眀愀礀 昀愀猀琀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 栀甀最攀 漀渀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀圀攀 栀漀瀀攀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 戀礀 愀 昀漀漀搀 栀愀渀搀氀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 愀 挀攀爀琀椀昀椀挀愀琀攀Ⰰഊif one volunteers, but this will get you thinking. I know how the mind ਀最攀琀猀 ✀琀甀渀渀攀氀 瘀椀猀椀漀渀✀ 漀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀洀 昀漀爀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀氀椀猀漀渀ഊallilyn at juno.com, Barony Marche of the Debatable Lands, Pittsburgh, PA ਀䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 漀昀 䄀攀琀栀攀氀洀攀愀爀挀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:23:57 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䌀伀一一䔀䌀吀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Reducing feast fees and cleaning spice grinders ਀ഊPardon me for jumping in, but I thought I'd share my experience at keeping ਀昀攀愀猀琀 挀漀猀琀猀 搀漀眀渀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 洀愀搀攀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 瀀栀漀渀攀 挀愀氀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀攀搀 琀漀 昀漀氀欀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 眀愀猀 椀渀 挀栀愀爀最攀 漀昀 愀ഊfundraising dinner for a non-profit organization. ਀ഊI contacted the wholesale produce market close to me, and arranged to get the ਀昀爀甀椀琀猀 愀渀搀 瘀攀最最椀攀猀 ⠀椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀 攀搀椀戀氀攀 昀氀漀眀攀爀猀⤀ 愀氀氀 愀琀 眀栀漀氀攀猀愀氀攀 爀愀琀攀猀⸀ 䤀ഊtalked with the best bakery in the state and got to buy huge loaves of bread ਀愀琀 眀栀漀氀攀猀愀氀攀 爀愀琀攀猀⸀ 䤀 琀愀氀欀攀搀 琀漀 愀 氀漀挀愀氀 焀甀愀氀椀琀礀 戀甀琀挀栀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最漀琀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 最漀漀搀ഊprice on chicken breasts. I got wine at wholesale rates from a local chain of ਀最漀甀爀洀攀琀 眀椀渀攀⼀戀攀攀爀 猀琀漀爀攀⸀ 䨀甀猀琀 昀漀爀 愀猀欀椀渀最 愀渀搀 昀椀氀氀椀渀最 漀甀琀 愀 昀漀爀洀Ⰰ 䤀 最漀琀 愀 ␀㈀㔀ഊcertificate from a huge grocery store chain, which offset about 3/4s of the ਀挀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 瀀愀猀琀爀礀 猀栀攀氀氀猀 䤀 挀漀甀氀搀 漀渀氀礀 最攀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䤀ഊtalked to a local bulk food store, and got a really great price on the bulk ਀愀氀洀漀渀搀猀 愀渀搀 搀爀椀攀搀 昀爀甀椀琀猀 䤀 渀攀攀搀攀搀⸀ 䄀氀氀 琀栀椀猀 眀漀爀欀 洀攀愀渀琀 䤀 戀爀漀甀最栀琀 愀 琀栀爀攀攀ഊremove meal for 100 in under the budget of $500. ਀ഊAnyone can duplicate my efforts, as we all use the same Tax ID number. It just ਀琀愀欀攀猀 猀漀洀攀 昀漀爀攀琀栀漀甀最栀琀 愀渀搀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 琀椀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀爀 栀甀洀戀氀攀 猀攀爀瘀愀渀琀ⰀഊRosalyn MacGregor ਀⠀倀愀琀琀椀攀 刀愀礀氀⤀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:54:33 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䜀爀漀甀氀砀Ⰰ 䴀椀挀栀攀氀氀攀∀ 㰀䴀䜀爀漀甀氀砀 愀琀 一刀䌀愀渀⸀最挀⸀挀愀㸀ഊSubject: SC - Peoples Perceptions (Was: Ending it-Ending It-OT-OOP) ਀ഊI like the idea that someone posted about posting the information in the ਀攀瘀攀渀琀 昀氀礀攀爀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀⸀  䠀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀洀攀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀⸀  倀漀猀琀ഊthe ingredients at troll, the kitchen, and in a pamphlet that could be sold ਀愀猀 愀 昀甀渀搀爀愀椀猀攀爀 ⠀眀栀漀氀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀ⴀⴀ眀爀椀琀椀渀最 戀漀漀欀猀 椀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 愀昀琀攀爀ഊall). In addition, a note could be put in the event flyer to snail mail or ਀攀ⴀ洀愀椀氀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 礀漀甀 攀瘀攀渀 挀漀洀攀 漀甀琀 ⠀漀爀 洀愀欀攀 礀漀甀爀 爀攀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀漀渀猀⤀ 琀漀 昀椀渀搀ഊout if the feast is alright for you. ਀ഊAnd here I always thought that this was standard practise throughout the ਀匀䌀䄀⸀ 䤀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 栀愀瘀攀 猀挀愀搀猀 漀昀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀 氀椀猀琀猀 愀爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 戀漀琀栀 愀琀 琀栀攀 䜀愀琀攀 愀渀搀 漀渀ഊthe tables themselves. I now (given technology) post ingredients ਀攀氀攀挀琀爀漀渀椀挀愀氀氀礀 昀漀爀 愀氀氀 愀渀搀 猀甀渀搀爀礀 琀漀 瘀椀攀眀 眀愀礀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 圀栀椀氀攀 䤀 洀愀礀ഊhave the reputation of not catering too much to minority groups (ie ਀愀氀氀攀爀最椀攀猀Ⰰ 瘀攀最愀渀猀⤀ 䤀 猀甀爀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 昀攀攀氀 爀甀搀攀 椀昀 䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 最椀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀ഊindication of the ingredients for people to vote with their feet or no. ਀ഊMicaylah ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㤀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㈀㄀㨀㐀㠀㨀㄀㔀 䔀匀吀ഊFrom: LrdRas at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 洀攀愀琀 搀愀礀猀 愀渀搀 昀愀猀琀 搀愀礀猀 ⴀ 䴀䤀堀䔀䐀㼀ഊ ਀圀栀椀挀栀 戀爀椀渀最猀 甀瀀 琀栀攀 猀甀戀樀攀挀琀 漀昀 氀攀昀琀漀瘀攀爀猀⸀ 䐀伀 一伀吀 䄀匀匀唀䴀䔀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 挀氀攀愀渀ⴀ甀瀀 挀爀攀眀ഊknows what should or chouldn't be saved. And never assume they will save ਀愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 氀攀昀琀⸀ 吀愀欀椀渀最 愀 昀攀眀 攀砀琀爀愀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 琀漀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀甀琀ഊwhat should be kept will save a lot of hard feelings and assure that ਀瀀攀爀昀攀挀琀氀礀 最漀漀搀 昀漀漀搀 椀猀 渀漀琀 爀攀氀攀最愀琀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 搀甀洀瀀猀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀刀愀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:09:01 EST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀爀漀渀眀礀渀洀最渀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Which books? ਀ഊoftraquair at hotmail.com writes: ਀㰀㰀 㸀䘀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀猀 䤀 眀愀猀 栀攀氀瀀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 眀攀攀欀攀渀搀 䤀 眀愀猀 栀攀愀爀椀渀最 戀愀搀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀ഊ site she has chosen. Something about a residential stove and all the burners ਀ 渀漀琀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最⸀ 䈀甀琀Ⰰ 䬀愀琀栀攀爀椀渀攀 猀琀攀瀀瀀攀搀 椀渀 琀漀 愀猀猀甀爀攀 甀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 椀猀ഊ entirely renovated and fully capable of preparing a meal to serve the 200 the ਀ 栀愀氀氀 眀椀氀氀 猀椀琀⸀ 㸀㸀ഊ ਀䴀愀欀攀 愀 琀爀椀瀀 琀漀 猀攀攀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀⸀  吀愀欀攀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀 渀漀琀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 渀甀洀戀攀爀猀 漀昀 戀甀爀渀攀爀猀ഊand stoves. Don't even think about making up a menu until you know what ਀挀漀漀欀椀渀最 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀猀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 眀椀琀栀⸀  䴀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 眀漀爀欀猀℀  䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 椀昀ഊyour group doesn't have a lot of their own cooking gear, find out ahead of ਀琀椀洀攀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀漀眀攀搀 琀漀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀猀⼀瀀愀渀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀 ⴀ 猀漀洀攀 猀椀琀攀猀 愀氀氀漀眀 琀栀椀猀 愀渀搀ഊsome don't. Also make sure you can use the fridge, and how big it is. ਀伀琀栀攀爀眀椀猀攀 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 昀椀渀搀 礀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀 椀渀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 猀琀椀挀欀礀 猀椀琀甀愀琀椀漀渀 愀琀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀ഊminute. ਀ഊBrangwayna ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㐀㨀 㔀㨀㈀㔀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Jennifer Conrad" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 伀伀倀 圀栀漀氀攀䘀漀漀搀猀 䴀愀爀欀攀琀ഊ ਀䄀猀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀Ⰰ 圀栀漀氀攀 䘀漀漀搀猀 䴀愀爀欀攀琀 椀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀 洀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 琀漀 猀栀漀瀀 昀漀爀 匀䌀䄀ഊrelated food and for everyday. (Their dried strawberries are to die for!!!) ਀䤀 愀氀猀漀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 猀攀氀氀 琀栀攀椀爀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 椀渀 戀甀氀欀⸀  䘀漀爀 昀攀愀猀琀猀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 最爀攀愀琀⸀ഊI figure out how much I need of each spice for each dish, and when I go to ਀戀甀礀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀 戀愀最 琀栀攀洀 愀猀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 昀漀爀 攀愀挀栀 搀椀猀栀 ☀ 眀爀椀琀攀 眀栀愀琀 搀椀猀栀 椀琀✀猀ഊfor on the bag. I may get strange looks at the register, but it's alot ਀攀愀猀椀攀爀 眀栀攀渀 瀀甀琀琀椀渀最 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 愀琀 琀栀攀 猀椀琀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 愀氀猀漀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀ഊplace that I've found pheasant and quail.(Year round!) ਀ഊLuveday ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀  ㄀㨀㄀㌀㨀㔀㄀ 䔀匀吀ഊFrom: LtSpicy at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䈀愀欀攀搀 䜀漀漀搀猀 圀愀猀 匀栀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 猀愀瘀瘀礀 昀漀爀 䘀攀愀猀琀猀ⴀ爀攀瘀椀猀椀琀攀搀ഊ ਀一漀琀 琀漀漀 氀漀渀最 愀最漀 䤀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀挀挀攀猀猀 琀漀 愀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀 戀愀欀攀爀礀⸀  吀栀椀猀ഊcould help immensely on providing fresh baked goods for a feast. ਀䤀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 漀眀渀攀爀 愀猀 栀椀猀 戀漀漀欀欀攀攀瀀攀爀 昀漀爀 愀 氀漀渀最 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀甀猀 栀愀瘀攀 愀ഊpretty good "in". But others can do the same: ਀吀礀瀀椀挀愀氀氀礀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀猀愀氀攀爀 戀愀欀攀爀礀 椀渀 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 琀漀眀渀 眀椀氀氀 漀渀氀礀 戀攀 椀渀 漀瀀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀 愀琀ഊcertain times of the day, with the place "dead" at times, perfect for my ਀䘀攀愀猀琀 䠀攀愀搀 䈀愀欀攀爀⸀  吀栀攀礀 漀渀氀礀 漀瀀攀爀愀琀攀 昀爀漀洀 ㄀㄀瀀洀 琀漀 㤀愀洀⸀  匀漀 䤀 挀愀渀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀 ഊfacilities (50lb doughmixer, walk in fridge, 6 plate rotating oven, etc...) ਀搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 琀漀 洀礀 栀攀愀爀琀猀 挀漀渀琀攀渀琀⸀  䤀 愀氀猀漀 欀渀漀眀 漀昀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 ㌀ 漀琀栀攀爀 氀漀挀愀氀 ഊbakeries that do the same, not to mention the several full time bakeries. A ਀眀愀氀欀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 氀漀挀愀氀 瀀栀漀渀攀 戀漀漀欀 愀渀搀 挀愀氀氀椀渀最 挀漀甀氀搀 愀氀猀漀 最攀琀 礀漀甀 愀挀挀攀猀猀℀ഊ ਀䰀愀搀礀 䬀椀渀甀欀漀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 00:08:37 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀瘀椀搀 昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀 㰀搀搀昀爀 愀琀 戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Politically correct Guide lines ਀ഊSome additions: ਀ഊDo a rehearsal, not merely of individual dishes, but of the feast--a ਀洀椀渀椀愀琀甀爀攀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 攀椀最栀琀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 漀爀 猀漀⸀ 吀栀愀琀 眀愀礀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 猀漀洀攀 椀搀攀愀 漀昀 栀漀眀ഊwell balanced it is, what you are planning to make too much or too little ਀漀昀Ⰰ 眀栀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 挀爀甀渀挀栀攀猀 洀愀礀 戀攀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 眀栀椀氀攀 愀昀琀攀爀 愀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 椀猀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀Ⰰ 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 眀愀渀搀攀爀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 栀愀氀氀ഊredistributing--taking a platter from a table where the people don't want ਀愀渀礀 洀漀爀攀 愀渀搀 琀爀愀渀猀昀攀爀爀椀渀最 椀琀 琀漀 愀 琀愀戀氀攀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 栀愀瘀攀 攀愀琀攀渀 椀琀 愀氀氀ഊup and are asking for more. That reduces wastage, and makes your guests ਀昀攀攀氀 愀猀 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 戀攀椀渀最 瀀愀椀搀 愀琀琀攀渀琀椀漀渀 琀漀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀猀 椀猀 愀琀 氀攀椀猀甀爀攀 愀琀 猀漀洀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰഊpreferably the head cook, have him wander around the feast hall answering ਀焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 攀琀挀⸀ഊ ਀䘀椀最甀爀攀 漀甀琀 眀栀椀挀栀 瀀愀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀ഊcompromising quality ਀ഊSketch out a tentative time line showing when each scarce resource is being ਀甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 眀栀愀琀 瀀甀爀瀀漀猀攀ⴀⴀ戀甀爀渀攀爀猀Ⰰ 漀瘀攀渀猀Ⰰ 氀愀爀最攀 瀀漀琀猀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀爀攀ഊthat you might, at some point in the process, not have enough of. That is a ਀眀愀礀 漀昀 猀瀀漀琀琀椀渀最 戀漀琀琀氀攀渀攀挀欀猀⸀ഊ ਀䠀愀瘀攀 愀 挀漀渀琀椀渀最攀渀挀礀 瀀氀愀渀 昀漀爀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 搀漀 椀昀 猀甀戀猀琀愀渀琀椀愀氀氀礀 洀漀爀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀ഊthan you expect show up--an extra course of bread, fruit, cheese, for ਀攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀䰀漀挀愀琀攀 琀栀攀 渀攀愀爀攀猀琀 猀甀瀀攀爀洀愀爀欀攀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ 椀渀 挀愀猀攀 漀昀 攀洀攀爀最攀渀挀礀 渀攀攀搀猀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀⼀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊhttp://www.best.com/~ddfr/ ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䴀愀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㈀㄀㨀㔀 㨀㄀㜀 䔀匀吀ഊFrom: Aelfwyn at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 一漀爀琀栀攀爀渀 䰀椀最栀琀猀 䘀攀愀猀琀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 最漀漀搀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀猀 昀漀爀 漀甀爀 昀攀愀猀琀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀愀琀 戀椀最 爀攀搀ഊthing in the kitchen turn out to be one of those recently discussed ਀眀愀爀洀椀渀最⼀栀漀氀搀椀渀最 漀瘀攀渀猀⸀ 䐀椀渀渀攀爀 眀愀猀 猀挀栀攀搀甀氀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 愀琀 㘀⸀ 䄀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 㔀椀猀栀ഊthe Queen herself came to apologize and tell me that things with the ਀倀攀渀琀愀琀栀氀漀渀 眀攀爀攀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最 氀漀渀最 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 愀眀愀爀搀猀 昀漀爀 䌀漀甀爀琀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ 愀渀搀 眀攀ഊprobably wouldn't be eating until 6:30 or so. Turned out we were not able to ਀猀琀愀爀琀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 甀渀琀椀氀 㠀℀ 吀栀愀琀 眀愀爀洀椀渀最 漀瘀攀渀 猀愀瘀攀搀 漀甀爀 搀椀渀渀攀爀⸀ 䤀琀 欀攀瀀琀 琀栀攀 爀漀愀猀琀ഊchickens, pork and beef from drying out and even kept the hardier veggies hot ਀眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 搀爀礀渀攀猀猀⸀ 䤀✀洀 猀漀氀搀 愀渀搀 眀椀氀氀 氀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 愀猀 愀 搀攀猀椀爀愀戀氀攀ഊcomponent of future site kitchens. ਀ഊAelfwyn ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㈀㤀 䴀愀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀ 㨀㔀㔀㨀㐀㌀ ⴀ 㔀  䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䜀愀礀氀椀渀 圀愀氀氀椀∀ 㰀最眀愀氀氀椀 愀琀 椀渀昀漀攀渀最椀渀攀⸀挀漀洀㸀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀甀爀瘀椀瘀攀搀 洀礀 昀椀爀猀琀 氀愀爀最攀 昀攀愀猀琀㄀  琀栀椀渀最猀 䤀 氀攀愀爀渀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 昀椀爀猀琀 氀愀爀最攀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀ 䌀漀漀欀攀搀 昀漀爀㜀 Ⰰ 昀攀搀 㠀 ⸀⸀⸀⸀⠀㄀⤀ 䜀椀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀 眀攀愀琀栀攀爀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀Ⰰ 愀 ✀㤀㐀 䘀漀爀搀䔀猀挀漀爀琀 䜀吀 猀攀爀瘀攀猀 愀猀 愀 瀀攀爀昀攀挀琀氀礀 愀挀挀攀瀀琀愀戀氀攀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀漀爀昀漀爀 渀漀渀ⴀ洀攀愀琀 椀琀攀洀猀⸀⠀㈀⤀ 一漀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 礀漀甀 戀爀椀渀最Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 渀攀攀搀洀漀爀攀 欀渀椀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 琀漀眀攀氀猀Ⰰ 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 琀爀愀礀猀Ⰰ 猀瀀漀渀最攀猀Ⰰ 栀漀琀 瀀愀搀猀Ⰰ猀琀漀爀愀最攀 戀愀最猀⸀⸀⸀⸀⠀㌀⤀ 一攀眀 眀愀氀欀椀渀最 猀栀漀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀 瀀漀漀爀 挀栀漀椀挀攀 漀昀 昀漀漀琀眀攀愀爀昀漀爀 ㈀ 搀愀礀猀 眀漀爀琀栀 漀昀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀ 吀栀攀 漀氀搀 栀椀欀椀渀最 戀漀漀琀猀 眀漀甀氀搀栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀 洀甀挀栀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 挀栀漀椀挀攀⸀⠀㐀⤀ 一漀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀 漀爀 栀愀琀攀 愀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀Ⰰ漀琀栀攀爀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀椀氀氀 氀椀欀攀 漀爀 栀愀琀攀 椀琀 洀漀爀攀⸀ 夀漀甀 挀愀渀✀琀瀀氀攀愀猀攀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀漀猀攀 礀漀甀 搀漀 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 眀椀氀氀眀愀渀琀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀⸀⠀㔀⤀ 䈀甀琀挀栀攀爀猀 搀漀 渀漀琀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀 渀甀洀戀攀爀猀 甀渀氀攀猀猀 琀栀攀礀愀爀攀 氀椀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 瀀漀甀渀搀猀⸀ 伀爀搀攀爀 戀礀 瀀漀甀渀搀猀⸀ 䄀氀眀愀礀猀⸀ 䌀栀攀挀欀礀漀甀 漀爀搀攀爀 愀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀爀攀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 挀栀攀挀欀 椀琀 愀最愀椀渀⸀⠀㘀⤀ 倀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 攀瘀攀渀 愀 猀漀ⴀ猀漀 搀椀猀栀 挀愀渀 琀甀爀渀 椀琀 椀渀琀漀猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 猀瀀攀挀琀愀挀甀氀愀爀⸀ 䘀爀攀猀栀 最爀攀攀渀猀Ⰰ 栀攀爀戀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀攀攀搀猀瀀爀漀甀琀猀 愀爀攀 礀漀甀爀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀⸀ 䤀 愀洀 渀漀眀 愀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀爀⸀⠀㜀⤀ 䈀爀椀渀最 挀愀猀栀 昀漀爀 氀愀猀琀 洀椀渀甀琀攀 猀琀漀爀攀 琀爀椀瀀猀⸀ 䔀洀瀀氀漀礀攀攀猀愀琀 昀漀漀搀 琀漀眀渀 最攀琀 琀攀猀琀礀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 甀猀攀 愀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 挀愀爀搀昀漀爀 氀愀猀琀 洀椀渀甀琀攀 氀漀眀 搀漀氀氀愀爀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀猀⸀⠀㠀⤀ 䜀甀愀爀搀 礀漀甀爀 挀愀猀琀 椀爀漀渀 瀀愀渀猀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀爀 氀椀昀攀⸀ 䬀椀渀搀猀漀甀氀猀 眀椀氀氀 昀漀漀氀椀猀栀氀礀 琀爀礀 琀漀 圀䄀匀䠀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 圀椀琀栀 猀漀愀瀀⸀⠀㤀⤀ 䄀 瀀爀漀漀昀攀爀 挀愀渀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 愀猀 愀 眀愀爀洀椀渀最 漀瘀攀渀 愀渀搀 椀猀Ⰰ椀渀 洀礀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 猀椀渀最氀攀 最爀攀愀琀攀猀琀 椀渀瘀攀渀琀椀漀渀 椀渀椀渀猀琀椀琀甀琀椀漀渀愀氀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀Ⰰ 猀攀挀漀渀搀 漀渀氀礀 琀漀 琀栀攀挀氀漀猀攀氀礀 琀椀攀搀 氀愀爀最攀 猀琀愀渀搀 洀椀砀攀爀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀甀猀琀爀椀愀氀猀琀爀攀渀最琀栀 搀椀猀栀眀愀猀栀攀爀⸀⠀㄀ ⤀ 䈀爀椀渀最 挀氀漀琀栀攀猀 琀漀 挀栀愀渀最攀 椀渀琀漀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀圀椀琀栀漀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 礀漀甀✀氀氀 最攀琀 挀愀甀最栀琀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 椀渀 昀氀漀甀爀Ⰰ最爀漀甀渀搀 洀攀愀琀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 栀愀椀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀爀攀愀搀 瀀甀搀搀椀渀最 漀渀礀漀甀爀 栀愀渀搀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 昀漀漀氀 眀椀氀氀 搀爀愀最 礀漀甀 甀瀀 椀渀琀漀挀漀甀爀琀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 愀渀 愀眀愀爀搀 樀甀猀琀 愀猀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 琀愀欀椀渀最 愀氀漀渀最ⴀ愀眀愀椀琀攀搀 猀椀瀀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 最漀漀搀 栀漀洀攀洀愀搀攀眀椀渀攀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 欀椀渀搀氀礀 搀漀渀愀琀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀琀愀昀昀⸀䤀琀 眀愀猀 愀 猀甀挀挀攀猀猀⸀ 䤀 琀漀漀欀 栀漀洀攀 琀眀漀 猀洀愀氀氀 稀椀瀀氀漀挀 戀愀最猀漀昀 氀攀昀琀漀瘀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 眀攀 漀渀氀礀 琀栀爀攀眀 愀眀愀礀 漀渀攀 琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀挀愀洀攀 戀愀挀欀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 琀愀戀氀攀猀⸀ 一漀 漀渀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀愀椀渀攀搀 愀戀漀甀琀戀攀椀渀最 栀甀渀最爀礀⸀ 䌀愀渀 䤀 最漀 琀漀 猀氀攀攀瀀 渀漀眀㼀 㨀⤀䨀愀猀洀椀渀攀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ 㔀 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀  㠀㨀㌀㠀㨀㈀  ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Decker, Terry D." ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䬀椀琀挀栀攀渀 匀琀攀眀愀爀搀 倀愀渀椀挀猀Ⰰ 昀椀氀洀 愀琀 ㄀㄀㨀  ഊ ਀㸀 䘀椀爀猀琀⸀ 䤀 欀攀攀瀀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 琀漀氀搀 䤀✀洀 甀渀搀攀爀攀猀琀椀洀愀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 爀漀愀猀琀 戀攀攀昀⸀ 䤀 昀椀最甀爀攀搀ഊ> about a pound and a quarter for a table of eight, REMEMBER, there's other ਀㸀 洀攀愀琀 搀椀猀栀攀猀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 ㄀⸀ 圀栀愀琀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀猀 攀猀琀椀洀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 椀猀 愀搀攀焀甀愀琀攀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 愀 爀椀漀琀 昀爀漀洀ഊ> happening and yet allowing us to keep the leftovers to a minimum? ਀ഊI tend to use a minimum of 4 oz. per person, so a minimum of 2 lbs per table ਀漀昀 㠀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 猀攀爀瘀攀 琀栀攀 戀攀攀昀 昀椀爀猀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 洀漀爀攀⸀  䌀愀爀渀椀瘀漀爀攀猀 眀椀氀氀 瀀椀最ഊout and everyone else seems to eat normally rather than pace themselves. ਀ഊI like to serve a sweet dish before the first course. The sugar helps ਀愀猀猀甀愀最攀 琀栀攀 爀愀瘀攀渀漀甀猀 愀瀀瀀攀琀椀琀攀 愀渀搀 猀氀漀眀猀 琀栀攀 琀攀洀瀀漀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀  䤀琀 挀愀渀 愀氀猀漀ഊbuy you 10 to 20 extra minutes, if things are not going well with the first ਀挀漀甀爀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀䈀攀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:55:28 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀攀琀攀爀猀Ⰰ 刀椀猀攀 䨀⸀∀ 㰀爀椀猀攀⸀瀀攀琀攀爀猀 愀琀 猀瀀椀攀最攀氀洀挀搀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: SC - Order of presentation ਀ഊRegarding the order of courses, my experience has been that if you serve the ਀戀攀攀昀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 洀漀爀攀 ⠀愀渀搀⼀漀爀 琀漀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 椀琀ഊon a bed of starch, which is a good idea), but that everyone then goes into ਀琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀攀攀氀椀渀最 昀愀椀爀氀礀 挀漀渀琀攀渀琀⸀  夀漀甀 最椀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀攀椀爀 戀攀攀昀Ⰰഊthey eat it, and then they're happy; they are psychologically satisfied; if ਀礀漀甀 猀攀爀瘀攀 攀攀氀猀 漀爀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 瀀椀最攀漀渀猀 漀爀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀爀搀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊcare. Giving them the beef up front makes them feel good about the whole ਀昀攀愀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀䌀漀渀瘀攀爀猀攀氀礀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 最椀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 愀猀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 洀攀愀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 琀栀愀琀ഊ"oh, not chicken again" reaction; it doesn't matter what comes afterwards, ਀琀栀攀礀✀氀氀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀攀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀⸀ഊ ਀圀攀✀瘀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 猀愀爀愀挀攀渀 猀琀攀眀 昀漀氀氀漀眀攀搀 戀礀 爀漀愀猀琀攀搀 猀瀀椀挀攀搀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀攀✀瘀攀ഊserved roasted spiced chicken followed by saracen stew, and the first feast ਀最漀琀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 爀攀瘀椀攀眀猀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 猀攀挀漀渀搀⸀  匀洀愀氀氀Ⰰ 猀琀愀琀椀猀琀椀挀愀氀氀礀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 猀愀洀瀀氀攀㬀ഊYMMV. ਀ഊCaitlin, in Storvik ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ 㘀 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀ 㨀 ㌀㨀㌀㠀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Decker, Terry D." ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䬀椀琀挀栀攀渀 匀琀攀眀愀爀搀 倀愀渀椀挀猀Ⰰ 昀椀氀洀 愀琀 ㄀㄀㨀  ഊ ਀㸀 㸀㸀䤀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 猀攀爀瘀攀 愀 猀眀攀攀琀 搀椀猀栀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 挀漀甀爀猀攀⸀  吀栀攀 猀甀最愀爀 栀攀氀瀀猀ഊ> assuage the ravenous appetite and slows the tempo of the feast. It can ਀㸀 愀氀猀漀 戀甀礀 礀漀甀 ㄀  琀漀 ㈀  攀砀琀爀愀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀Ⰰ 椀昀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 最漀椀渀最 眀攀氀氀 眀椀琀栀ഊ> the first course.<< ਀㸀ഊ> I doubt that you mean a dessert type item here; could you give us some ਀㸀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀猀㼀  䤀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 椀搀攀愀⸀ഊ ਀䄀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 椀琀攀洀猀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀攀搀 搀攀猀猀攀爀琀猀 椀渀 愀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 挀漀渀琀攀砀琀⸀  䤀ഊhave started feasts with fruit filled brioche, an apple tart, honey ਀猀眀攀攀琀攀渀攀搀 愀瀀瀀氀攀 挀愀欀攀 愀渀搀 挀甀爀爀愀渀琀 挀愀欀攀猀⸀  䤀 愀氀猀漀 琀爀礀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 氀漀愀昀 漀昀 戀爀攀愀搀ഊand butter on the table before the first course comes out. ਀ഊIn the future, I'm considering using panforte, wardens in syrup, or fruit ਀昀椀氀氀攀搀 欀爀愀瀀昀攀渀 ⠀琀栀攀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀栀攀 䈀攀爀氀椀渀攀爀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀 椀琀攀洀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 挀愀渀 戀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 欀攀攀瀀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊcan be served cold. ਀ഊ> I've got a couple of 2 course dinners in the planning stage, unusually, ਀㸀 眀栀椀挀栀 琀栀爀漀眀猀 漀昀昀 洀礀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最⸀  䤀琀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀猀 洀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀ഊ> reactions here as to the roast placement. ਀㸀ഊ> Allison ਀ഊWith the Ansteorran carnivores, I think placing the beef later in the meal ਀眀漀爀欀猀 戀攀琀琀攀爀⸀  䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 漀渀攀 洀甀猀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 琀栀攀ഊproper artistic effect. ਀ഊBear ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㄀㨀 㐀㨀㈀㔀 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: CONNECT at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 愀昀琀攀爀 昀攀愀猀琀 琀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀猀ഊ ਀䤀渀 愀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 搀愀琀攀搀 㐀⼀㄀㈀⼀㤀㤀 ㄀㄀㨀㌀㈀㨀㄀㐀 倀䴀Ⰰ 洀攀洀漀爀洀愀渀 愀琀 漀氀搀挀漀氀漀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ<< > The thank-you cards our mothers ਀㸀 洀愀搀攀 甀猀 眀爀椀琀攀 愀爀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 渀椀挀攀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䰀漀爀搀 䘀爀攀搀攀爀椀挀栀 䠀漀氀猀琀攀椀渀 搀攀爀 吀漀氀氀栀愀猀攀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 愀爀攀 愀戀猀漀氀甀琀攀氀礀 爀椀最栀琀℀  䤀 琀爀礀 ⠀愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 猀愀搀氀礀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 洀愀渀愀最攀 椀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀ഊtime) to send out notes to everyone who works in the kitchen with me. A ਀氀椀琀琀氀攀 愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀椀漀渀 最漀攀猀 愀 氀漀渀最 眀愀礀 琀漀眀愀爀搀猀 洀漀琀椀瘀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀䔀氀愀椀渀愀 㸀㸀ഊ ਀䤀 洀愀欀攀 甀瀀 猀洀愀氀氀 最椀昀琀猀 琀漀 栀愀渀搀 漀甀琀 琀漀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 栀攀氀瀀 洀攀⸀ 䘀漀爀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 攀瘀攀渀琀 䤀ഊdid, I made up red and white chocolate suckers in the shape of an elephant ਀⠀漀甀爀 戀愀爀漀渀椀愀氀 戀愀搀最攀 愀渀搀 挀漀氀漀爀猀⤀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 眀攀渀琀 漀瘀攀爀 瘀攀爀礀 眀攀氀氀⸀ 㨀⤀ഊ ਀夀漀甀爀猀ⰀഊRosalyn MacGregor ਀⠀倀愀琀琀椀攀 刀愀礀氀⤀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:15:35 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 爀攀渀昀爀漀眀 愀琀 猀欀礀氀愀渀搀猀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀䌀椀渀搀礀 刀攀渀昀爀漀眀⤀ഊSubject: Re: SC - First Feast ਀ഊ> I am doing my first feast with-in a month. The hall will hold 100, ਀㸀戀甀琀 洀礀 猀栀椀爀攀 愀搀瘀椀猀攀爀猀 猀愀椀搀 琀漀 瀀氀愀渀 昀漀爀 㐀㠀⸀ 䤀 愀洀 洀愀欀椀渀最 洀攀愀琀 瀀椀攀猀 愀渀搀ഊ>dumplings ahead and freezing them. But my real concern is what do I do if ਀㸀琀栀攀 洀漀爀渀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀 㔀  洀漀爀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 搀攀挀椀搀攀 琀漀 猀琀愀礀 昀漀爀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀ 䐀漀 䤀 爀甀渀ഊ>to the store and buy all the food over again and make every thing again. ਀㸀吀栀椀猀 瀀漀椀渀琀 椀猀 洀愀欀椀渀最 洀攀 爀攀愀氀 渀攀爀瘀漀甀猀⸀ 䤀 眀椀氀氀 眀攀氀挀漀洀攀 愀渀礀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀ഊ>or horror stories (only if they have HAPPY ENDINGS) ਀㸀ഊ>Anna OftderTurm ਀ഊHello! I agree with Adamantius. Offer a limited menu to the late-comers. ਀䌀甀琀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 猀椀最渀ⴀ甀瀀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 栀漀甀爀猀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 最椀瘀椀渀最ഊyourself enough time to send someone to the store, if necessary (but ਀猀攀渀搀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀爀攀 挀愀渀 戀攀 愀 搀椀猀愀猀琀攀爀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 戀甀搀最攀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀✀爀攀ഊnot careful) . ਀ഊSome things, such as soups & salads, can be expanded easily. I'd forget ਀愀戀漀甀琀 洀愀欀椀渀最 搀甀洀瀀氀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 氀愀戀漀爀ⴀ椀渀琀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀⸀  匀漀洀攀漀渀攀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀ഊready-made pie crusts. These can be good, if they're not too expensive, ਀昀漀爀 氀愀猀琀ⴀ洀椀渀甀琀攀 挀甀猀琀愀爀搀 漀爀 焀甀椀挀栀攀 瀀椀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀琀✀猀 愀 最漀漀搀 椀搀攀愀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 漀渀 栀愀渀搀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 欀攀攀瀀 昀漀爀 愀 氀漀渀最 琀椀洀攀ഊif they wind up not being needed, such as eggs, rice, dry beans, root ਀瘀攀最最椀攀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ഊ ਀䴀愀氀愀猀愀搀攀 椀猀 戀愀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 猀挀爀愀洀戀氀攀搀 攀最最猀 漀渀 琀漀愀猀琀Ⰰ ☀ 椀猀 愀 最漀漀搀 攀愀猀礀 氀愀猀琀ⴀ洀椀渀甀琀攀ഊdish. Gelyne (hen) in broth is also easy & inexpensive, & will stretch ਀瀀爀攀琀琀礀 昀愀爀 椀昀 礀漀甀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 爀椀挀攀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 戀爀攀愀搀挀爀甀洀戀猀⸀  䘀氀愀瘀漀爀攀搀 爀椀挀攀ⰀഊBrowne fryes (dark bread dipped in egg batter & fried), and Pokerounce ਀⠀猀瀀椀挀攀搀 栀漀渀攀礀 漀渀 戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 琀漀瀀瀀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 瀀椀渀攀 渀甀琀猀⤀ 愀爀攀 愀氀氀 焀甀椀挀欀 ☀ 攀愀猀礀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 䤀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 搀漀 椀猀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 挀栀愀爀搀眀愀爀搀漀渀 ⠀眀椀渀攀 ☀ 瀀攀愀爀 猀愀甀挀攀⤀ 漀爀 愀瀀瀀氀攀ഊmoyle (applesauce) far ahead of time & can it. That way I only open what I ਀渀攀攀搀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 栀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀眀栀攀爀攀 昀漀爀 搀爀礀 戀愀氀氀猀 漀昀 洀甀猀琀愀爀搀Ⰰഊthat can be mixed with vinegar? when needed. ਀ഊCindy Renfrow/Sincgiefu ਀爀攀渀昀爀漀眀 愀琀 猀欀礀氀愀渀搀猀⸀渀攀琀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:05:29 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀攀琀攀爀猀Ⰰ 刀椀猀攀 䨀⸀∀ 㰀爀椀猀攀⸀瀀攀琀攀爀猀 愀琀 猀瀀椀攀最攀氀洀挀搀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: RE: SC - Words of wisdom ਀ഊLuveday asked: ਀㸀 䤀渀 䨀甀氀礀Ⰰ 洀礀 栀甀猀戀愀渀搀 愀渀搀 䤀 愀爀攀 最椀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀氀愀猀猀 搀攀愀氀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 戀攀椀渀最 愀 䬀椀琀挀栀攀渀ഊ> Steward for the first time. What I would like to know from you good folks ਀㸀 椀猀 眀栀愀琀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀⼀ 琀椀瀀猀⼀ 栀椀渀琀猀⼀ 攀琀挀⸀Ⰰ 眀漀甀氀搀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 氀椀欀攀搀 琀漀 欀渀漀眀渀 戀攀昀漀爀攀ഊ> doing your first feast? ਀ഊ(1) Be good to your feet. If your feet aren't happy, your day will go ਀瀀漀漀爀氀礀⸀ഊ(2) Allow more time for prep (chopping, etc.) than you think you will need, ਀戀礀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㈀㔀─⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀椀洀攀 氀攀昀琀 漀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 琀愀欀攀 愀 爀攀猀琀 愀渀搀 攀愀琀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊ(3) Snacks are your friend. ਀⠀㐀⤀ 䄀 栀愀瀀瀀礀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 昀甀氀氀 漀昀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀猀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 昀漀漀搀⸀ഊ(5) A small 2-burner coleman camping stove should always be in reserve ਀愀最愀椀渀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀洀攀渀琀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 樀甀猀琀 漀渀攀 洀漀爀攀 栀攀愀琀 猀漀甀爀挀攀⸀  䄀 挀漀氀攀洀愀渀ഊstove works as well in a fancy kitchen, sitting on the counter, as it does ਀椀渀 愀 挀愀洀瀀猀椀琀攀 漀渀 愀 瀀椀挀渀椀挀 琀愀戀氀攀⸀ഊ(6) Someone other than you should do the bulk of the heavy cleanup. Insist ਀漀渀 椀琀⸀  䈀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀 琀漀 猀琀愀礀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀渀搀 最椀瘀攀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 椀渀ഊdishwater at 11 p.m., there's something wrong. ਀⠀㜀⤀ 吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 渀漀 猀甀挀栀 琀栀椀渀最 愀猀 琀漀漀 洀愀渀礀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 戀漀眀氀猀⸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:16:54 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 圀愀搀攀 䠀甀琀挀栀椀猀漀渀 㰀眀栀甀琀挀栀椀猀 愀琀 戀甀挀欀渀攀氀氀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Words of wisdom ਀ഊThere are some pratical cooking tips that may not yet have been ਀洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀㨀ഊ ਀䤀渀挀爀攀愀猀攀 爀漀愀猀琀椀渀最⼀戀愀欀椀渀最 琀椀洀攀 昀漀爀 昀甀氀氀 漀瘀攀渀猀 瘀猀⸀ 栀漀洀攀 漀瘀攀渀 眀椀琀栀 愀ഊ single dish at a time. ਀䔀砀瀀氀愀椀渀 栀漀眀 昀愀猀琀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 瀀漀琀 漀昀 猀琀愀爀挀栀礀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀 眀椀氀氀 猀挀漀爀挀栀 漀渀ഊ a gas stove! ਀䔀砀琀爀愀 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 戀爀椀渀最 氀愀爀最攀 焀甀愀渀琀椀琀椀攀猀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀䈀爀椀渀最 愀搀攀焀甀愀琀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀漀漀氀猀 椀昀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀 猀椀琀攀 栀愀猀 琀栀攀洀 ⴀഊsome scout camps that we cook at only have liquid measures in ਀㄀ 焀琀⸀ 瀀氀甀猀 猀椀稀攀猀Ⰰ 猀漀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 洀攀愀猀甀爀椀渀最 挀甀瀀猀 愀渀搀 猀瀀漀漀渀猀 洀愀礀ഊbe helpful. Also some smaller pots for intermediate ingredient cooking. ਀䤀 最甀攀猀猀 琀栀椀猀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 猀甀洀洀攀搀 甀瀀 戀礀 猀愀礀椀渀最 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀✀猀ഊavailable in the kitchen - and be prepared to bring anything else ਀礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䌀栀攀挀欀 愀渀搀 猀攀攀 椀昀 礀漀甀爀 猀栀椀爀攀 漀爀 最爀漀甀瀀 栀愀猀 愀 ✀欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 欀椀琀✀ 眀椀琀栀ഊcleanup and cooking supplies that would be available. ਀ഊLine up adequate helpers before the event. Drop in helpers will ਀猀瀀攀攀搀 琀栀椀渀最猀 甀瀀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 挀漀甀渀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀洀℀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ䜀椀氀氀攀 䴀愀挀䐀栀渀漀甀椀氀氀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:48:06 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 嘀愀爀樀甀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Words of wisdom ਀ഊA few tips I can offer: ਀ഊMake your first course, or even first two, foods that are served cold or can ਀戀攀 欀攀瀀琀 眀愀爀洀 眀椀琀栀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 攀昀昀漀爀琀⸀  吀栀椀猀 洀愀欀攀猀 椀琀 洀甀挀栀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 椀昀 挀漀甀爀琀 爀甀渀猀ഊlate or there is a major crisis because you have one less course to worry ਀愀戀漀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀眀愀礀猀 戀爀椀渀最 攀砀琀爀愀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 琀漀眀攀氀猀Ⰰ 搀椀猀栀 搀攀琀攀爀最攀渀琀Ⰰ 琀爀愀猀栀 戀愀最猀Ⰰ 漀瘀攀渀 洀椀琀琀猀Ⰰ 栀漀琀ഊpads, dishcloths and dish towels. There never seem to be enough of these ਀眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀吀爀礀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 愀 戀椀琀 漀昀 洀漀渀攀礀 漀渀 栀愀渀搀 琀漀 爀甀渀 漀甀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀爀攀 椀昀 礀漀甀 昀椀渀搀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀ഊforgotten something. Also have a volunteer to do these sort of errands for ਀礀漀甀 猀漀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 氀攀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 瀀愀挀欀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀猀Ⰰ 瀀愀渀猀Ⰰ 洀椀砀椀渀最 戀漀眀氀猀Ⰰ 猀瀀漀漀渀猀Ⰰ 攀砀琀爀愀 挀氀攀愀渀 甀瀀ഊitems etc the night before so you don't have to worry about them the day of ਀琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀䌀栀攀挀欀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 漀甀琀 椀昀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 瀀氀愀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 猀攀氀氀猀 戀甀氀欀 栀攀爀戀猀 愀渀搀ഊspices. This can save you money and they are usually willing to order ਀愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 渀攀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀一漀攀洀椀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:29:18 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䰀夀一 䴀 倀䄀刀䬀䤀一匀伀一 㰀愀氀氀椀氀礀渀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - accommodating at feasts ਀ഊ2 suggestions. 1--take a pencil to the feast. If there are changes, ਀瀀攀渀挀椀氀 椀琀 椀渀 漀爀 栀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀攀渀挀椀氀 琀漀 愀 栀攀氀瀀攀爀 愀渀搀 猀愀礀 ∀倀甀琀 ✀搀愀渀搀攀氀椀漀渀✀ഊbeside the salad ingredients" ਀ഊ2--write 'purchased pre-made ingredients' beside a dish that has them. A ਀爀攀挀攀渀琀 挀漀漀欀 搀椀搀 渀漀琀 欀渀漀眀 漀昀 愀渀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀氀礀 氀愀戀攀氀攀搀ഊ'natural flavor' in an item she used. Bouillion cubes sometimes have a ਀洀甀猀栀爀漀漀洀 戀愀猀攀Ⰰ 漀爀 渀甀琀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀渀✀琀 氀椀猀琀攀搀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 琀攀氀氀 甀猀ഊit's got a purchased ingredient, chances are good we know about its ਀猀愀昀攀琀礀 漀爀 氀愀挀欀⸀  吀栀攀渀 眀攀 攀愀琀 椀琀 漀爀 眀攀 搀漀渀✀琀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀氀椀猀漀渀ഊallilyn at juno.com, Barony Marche of the Debatable Lands, Pittsburgh, PA ਀䬀椀渀最搀漀洀 漀昀 䄀攀琀栀攀氀洀攀愀爀挀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:22:47 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䈀爀椀愀渀 䰀⸀ 刀礀最最 漀爀 䰀愀甀爀愀 䈀愀爀戀攀攀ⴀ刀礀最最∀ 㰀爀礀最戀攀攀 愀琀 洀漀渀琀愀渀愀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Words of wisdom ਀ഊOther bits that also come to mind are: ਀㄀⸀ 吀愀欀攀 礀漀甀爀 洀椀挀爀漀眀愀瘀攀 ⠀洀椀渀攀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 挀漀渀瘀攀挀琀椀漀渀⤀ഊ2. Wash all serving dishes the night before ਀㌀⸀ 䈀氀攀愀挀栀ഊ4. Dish towels ਀㔀⸀ 倀甀琀 礀漀甀爀 渀愀洀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 漀昀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀 瀀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 搀椀猀栀攀猀ഊ6. Hire (eat free) head dish person ਀㜀⸀ 䴀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀氀 礀漀甀爀 洀攀搀椀挀椀渀攀 ⠀栀愀瘀攀 挀栀爀漀渀椀挀 椀氀氀渀攀猀猀 愀渀搀 挀愀渀 戀攀 愀ഊreal b***h when hurting) ਀㠀⸀ 䔀愀琀 愀渀搀 搀爀椀渀欀 瀀氀攀渀琀礀 漀昀 昀氀甀椀搀猀 ⠀䤀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 渀攀攀搀 爀攀洀椀渀搀椀渀最 眀栀攀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⤀ഊ9. Have a head server to organize the servers ਀㄀ ⸀ 䠀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 栀漀渀攀礀 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 戀甀琀琀攀爀猀 洀愀搀攀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀 ⠀搀椀猀栀攀搀 甀瀀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀ഊtime is nice too) ਀ഊSee attached handout for Feastocrats that I did up a few years ago. ਀刀愀漀最栀渀愀椀氀琀 䴀愀爀椀攀 䈀愀琀爀椀砀 搀攀 氀愀 䈀愀爀戀攀ഊ(Laura E. Barbee-Rygg) ਀爀礀最戀攀攀 愀琀 洀漀渀琀愀渀愀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀ഊGuidelines for Feastocrats ਀ഊ1. Remember that you are working FOR the Autocrat. Coordinate with ਀栀椀洀⼀栀攀爀 漀渀 洀攀渀甀Ⰰ 昀攀愀猀琀 昀攀攀Ⰰ 愀瀀瀀爀漀砀椀洀愀琀攀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 戀攀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀攀搀 ഊ(based on past experience plus a "fudge" factor), what kind of kitchen ਀昀愀挀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀 愀爀攀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀椀猀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀㈀⸀      匀漀洀攀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀 漀渀 栀漀眀 琀漀 猀攀琀 愀 戀甀搀最攀琀㨀  䌀愀氀挀甀氀愀琀攀 琀栀攀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀攀搀 ഊdiners and multiply by the feast fee -- 50 people X $5 =3D $250 (try not ਀琀漀 最漀 漀瘀攀爀 ␀㈀㈀㔀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 椀渀 挀愀猀攀⤀⸀  䐀漀渀✀琀 昀漀爀最攀琀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 刀漀礀愀氀琀礀 猀栀漀眀 ഊup at your feast will increase the numbers by 15 to 40 people, depending ਀漀渀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 漀昀 礀攀愀爀 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 攀氀猀攀 椀猀 最漀椀渀最 漀渀⸀ഊ ਀㌀⸀      䠀漀眀 琀漀 猀攀琀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀攀攀㨀  䄀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀猀 一伀吀 愀 洀漀渀攀礀ⴀ洀愀欀椀渀最 瀀爀漀瀀漀猀椀琀椀漀渀⸀  ഊYou want to come out about even, giving fair value for the money paid. ਀䤀琀 椀猀 挀栀攀愀瀀攀爀 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 氀愀爀最攀爀 最爀漀甀瀀猀 琀栀愀渀 昀漀爀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 漀渀攀猀 ⴀⴀ 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 ഊfor 50 can cost as much as one for 75. Figure out what you would pay ਀昀漀爀 愀 洀攀愀氀 椀渀 愀 爀攀猀琀愀甀爀愀渀琀 ⠀渀漀琀 䴀挀䐀漀渀愀氀搀✀猀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 甀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 愀猀 愀 戀愀猀椀猀⸀  ഊOr you could decide ahead of time that you want to serve a special meat ਀漀爀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 昀攀愀猀琀 愀渀搀 最漀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀爀攀 ⴀⴀ 昀椀最甀爀攀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀猀琀猀 愀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 ഊbe and from that, set your feast fee. The Autocrat might plan to ਀戀愀氀愀渀挀攀 愀 栀椀最栀 猀椀琀攀 昀攀攀 戀礀 猀攀琀琀椀渀最 愀 氀漀眀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀攀攀 ⴀⴀ 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 ഊconsulted, and that the fee will be enough to cover the necessary ਀攀砀瀀攀渀猀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀㐀⸀      倀椀挀欀 愀渀 䄀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀琀 䘀攀愀猀琀漀挀爀愀琀⸀  䰀椀渀攀 甀瀀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀猀 愀猀 渀攀攀搀攀搀⸀  䰀攀琀 琀栀攀 ഊAutocrat know that you expect a cleanup crew. Let's be realistic -- ਀愀昀琀攀爀 愀氀氀 搀愀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀㔀⸀      䌀栀攀挀欀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 昀愀挀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀 ⴀⴀ 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 眀愀渀琀 漀爀 ഊneed any surprises the day of the event. Find out what dishes and ਀挀漀漀欀眀愀爀攀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 甀猀攀Ⰰ 椀昀 愀渀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀昀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀 戀爀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 漀眀渀 ⠀漀爀 戀漀爀爀漀眀 ഊwhat you need). You need plenty of serving platters, bowls, and serving ਀甀琀攀渀猀椀氀猀⸀  䤀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 椀猀 椀渀 愀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 䘀攀愀猀琀 ഊHall, coordinate with the Autocrat about HOW the food is to be ਀琀爀愀渀猀瀀漀爀琀攀搀 ⠀搀漀渀✀琀 氀愀甀最栀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀攀搀 琀漀 洀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㘀⸀      䈀攀 爀攀愀氀椀猀琀椀挀 椀渀 琀栀攀 愀洀漀甀渀琀猀 漀昀 昀漀漀搀 琀漀 戀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀⸀  䄀氀氀漀眀 ㄀⼀㈀ 琀漀 ㌀⼀㐀 ഊpounds (8-12 oz.) total of PROTEIN per person -- meat (minus bones), ਀攀最最猀Ⰰ 挀栀攀攀猀攀 ⴀⴀ 愀渀搀 搀漀渀✀琀 挀漀甀渀琀 愀渀礀 洀攀愀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀瀀 甀渀氀攀猀猀 椀琀 椀猀 愀 ഊmeat-rich stew. Figure 1/2 serving of a vegetable -- approx. 1/4 cup ਀瀀攀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 ⠀琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 搀漀渀✀琀 眀愀渀琀 愀渀礀 眀椀氀氀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 挀漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀攀眀 ഊwho want more). "Fish is a vegetable." Soup will stretch a meal. ਀䐀漀渀✀琀 最漀 漀瘀攀爀戀漀愀爀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀眀攀攀琀猀⸀  匀愀甀挀攀 愀洀漀甀渀琀猀 䄀刀䔀一✀吀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀氀礀 ഊmultiplied by the number of times you are making the recipe (a little ਀最漀攀猀 愀 氀漀渀最 眀愀礀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㜀⸀      䌀栀漀漀猀椀渀最 愀 洀攀渀甀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 戀攀 栀愀爀搀⸀  吀愀氀欀 琀漀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀搀 ഊfeastocrats, look at ethnic or period cookbooks, and talk with your ਀氀漀挀愀氀 䌀漀漀欀猀✀ 䜀甀椀氀搀 ⠀椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 漀渀攀⤀⸀  吀刀夀 礀漀甀爀 ഊrecipes ahead of time (Cooks' Guild is a good place to do this). ਀ഊ8. Use in-season produce and meats to cut costs: Winter squash in the ਀昀愀氀氀Ⰰ 琀甀爀欀攀礀猀 ☀ 最攀攀猀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀愀氀氀Ⰰ 栀愀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀瀀爀椀渀最 ⠀愀爀漀甀渀搀 䔀愀猀琀攀爀⤀Ⰰ ഊfresh fruit in the summer and fall. Try to get your hunters to donate ਀瘀攀渀椀猀漀渀Ⰰ 攀氀欀Ⰰ 漀爀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 攀氀猀攀 琀栀攀礀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 昀漀爀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀渀搀 䘀刀䔀䔀 洀愀椀渀 ഊdish -- it can really cut costs. [You can ask the Shire to sponsor a ਀搀攀攀爀 琀愀最 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 匀栀椀爀攀 洀攀洀戀攀爀 最漀 漀甀琀 愀渀搀 最攀琀 愀 搀攀攀爀 昀漀爀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀崀  ഊThis is also a good way to include fish in a menu -- have your local ਀昀椀猀栀攀爀洀愀渀 挀氀攀愀渀 漀甀琀 栀椀猀 昀爀攀攀稀攀爀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 匀栀椀爀攀 戀愀欀攀爀Ⰰ 愀猀欀 栀攀爀⼀栀椀洀 ഊif they would bake the bread -- nothing eats up a budget faster than ਀戀甀礀椀渀最 戀爀攀愀搀 ⠀䤀✀瘀攀 戀愀欀攀搀 戀爀攀愀搀 昀漀爀 ㄀  Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀愀琀 洀甀挀栀 ഊtime). ਀ഊ9. Set your menu to feed a set number and stick to it -- nothing is ਀眀漀爀猀攀 琀栀愀渀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 攀渀漀甀最栀 昀漀漀搀 ⴀⴀ 愀渀搀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀 琀爀漀氀氀 欀渀漀眀猀 琀栀攀 ഊcut-off. If you can be more flexible, it is recommended to add dishes, ਀爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 椀渀挀爀攀愀猀椀渀最 琀栀攀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 昀漀漀搀猀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀㄀ ⸀     匀栀漀瀀 琀栀攀 猀愀氀攀猀 昀漀爀 愀 洀漀渀琀栀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 猀琀漀爀愀最攀 ഊroom. Check with your local meat markets about a deal on quantities of ਀洀攀愀琀 ⴀⴀ 搀漀渀✀琀 昀漀爀最攀琀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 愀爀攀 愀 渀漀渀ⴀ瀀爀漀昀椀琀 最爀漀甀瀀 愀渀搀 洀愀渀礀 戀甀猀椀渀攀猀猀攀猀 ഊwill give a discount. Use foil pans for messy meats that can just be ਀琀栀爀漀眀渀 愀眀愀礀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀渀攀爀最礀⸀  圀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 匀栀椀爀攀 瀀愀渀琀爀礀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 ഊleftover flour, sugar, spices, coffee, etc. from each feast -- make sure ਀琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀 昀爀漀洀 洀攀 ⠀漀爀 眀栀漀攀瘀攀爀 栀愀猀 椀琀⤀ 愀渀搀 搀漀渀✀琀 戀甀礀 渀攀攀搀氀攀猀猀 ഊduplicates. ਀ഊ11. Prepare as much of the food ahead of time as possible, space ਀瀀攀爀洀椀琀琀椀渀最⸀  唀猀攀 愀渀礀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀漀爀 愀渀搀 昀爀攀攀稀攀爀 猀瀀愀挀攀 匀栀椀爀攀 ഊmembers can spare. Slice cooked meats ready to reheat and serve (beef ਀愀渀搀 栀愀洀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㄀㄀⸀     匀琀愀爀琀 戀礀 戀攀椀渀最 愀渀 䄀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀琀 䘀攀愀猀琀漀挀爀愀琀 䘀䤀刀匀吀⸀  䤀 栀椀最栀氀礀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 ഊthat your first feast is NOT your Shire's premier event unless you have ਀洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 挀愀琀攀爀椀渀最 漀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 氀愀爀最攀 最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀  匀琀愀爀琀 眀椀琀栀 ഊa smaller event and work up from there. ਀ഊA SAMPLE MENU ਀⠀昀漀爀 㐀 ⴀ㔀 ⤀ഊFIRST REMOVE ਀戀爀攀愀搀 眀椀琀栀 戀甀琀琀攀爀猀 ⠀栀漀渀攀礀攀搀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀 栀攀爀戀攀搀⤀ഊsoup ਀㄀猀琀 洀攀愀琀ഊ vegetable ਀        猀眀攀攀琀ഊ ਀匀䔀䌀伀一䐀 刀䔀䴀伀嘀䔀ഊ2nd meat ਀        猀琀愀爀挀栀 ⠀渀漀漀搀氀攀猀Ⰰ 爀椀挀攀⤀ഊvegetable ਀猀眀攀攀琀ഊ ਀䄀搀搀攀搀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 昀漀爀 氀愀爀最攀爀 渀甀洀戀攀爀猀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀 洀攀愀琀猀Ⰰ 挀栀攀攀猀攀Ⰰ ഊa vegetarian dish, fresh fruit, another dessert, and don't forget those ਀眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 ⠀戀甀琀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 琀椀洀攀ⴀ挀漀渀猀甀洀椀渀最⤀ 猀漀琀椀氀琀攀猀 ⠀猀甀戀琀氀攀琀椀攀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀 匀攀爀瘀椀挀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 匀栀椀爀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 䐀爀攀愀洀Ⰰഊ ਀䰀愀搀礀 刀愀漀最栀渀愀椀氀琀 䴀愀爀椀攀 䈀攀愀琀爀椀砀 搀攀 氀愀 䈀愀爀戀攀ഊ ਀匀漀甀爀挀攀猀㨀ഊThe Known World Handbook, 20th-year ed. ਀ഊ Mistress Maire NiNuanain, OL, lecture and class notes from the ਀唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀愀猀 䄀琀攀渀瘀攀氀搀琀甀猀 䄀⸀匀⸀ 堀堀嘀䤀䤀䤀 ⠀㄀㤀㤀㌀⤀⸀ഊ ਀愀渀搀 洀礀 漀眀渀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀猀 愀猀 䘀攀愀猀琀漀挀爀愀琀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 㐀  琀漀 ㄀  ⸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:30:56 PDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䈀漀渀渀攀 漀昀 吀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀∀ 㰀漀昀琀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Words of wisdom ਀ഊ>what information/ tips/ hints/ etc., would you have liked to known before ਀㸀搀漀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 昀椀爀猀琀 昀攀愀猀琀㼀ഊ> ਀㸀䰀甀瘀攀搀愀礀ഊ ਀䴀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 搀攀昀椀渀攀 礀漀甀爀 樀漀戀⸀ 吀栀攀 瘀攀爀礀 昀椀爀猀琀 眀攀攀欀攀渀搀 愀昀琀攀爀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀ഊasked/been volunteered, sit down and make a list of everthing you think is ਀最漀椀渀最 琀漀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 漀爀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀搀⸀  䘀漀爀洀 愀渀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀 愀猀 琀漀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 礀漀甀ഊthink each task is more easily doable by yourself, or more easily included ਀眀椀琀栀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀 琀愀猀欀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 礀漀甀 漀爀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 愀猀猀椀最渀ഊthe task. Then discuss it with your autocrat. THEN start planning your ਀昀攀愀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀䈀漀渀渀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:10:49 GMT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䈀漀渀渀攀 漀昀 吀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀∀ 㰀漀昀琀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Feast Stories from 11th Night Investiture (LONG) ਀ഊ>One thing that really worked well for me was the notebook. ਀ഊOh, yes. You gotta have a notebook! My paperwork on the feast moved from a ਀猀瀀漀琀 椀渀 洀礀 搀愀椀氀礀 渀漀琀攀戀漀漀欀 挀愀氀攀渀搀愀爀 琀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 琀漀 椀琀✀猀 漀眀渀 昀甀氀氀ⴀ猀椀稀攀搀 戀椀渀搀攀爀ഊmonths before hand. The idea was that my deputy could take the book and take ਀漀瘀攀爀 椀昀 渀攀攀搀 戀攀⸀  匀栀攀 栀愀搀 挀漀瀀椀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 愀氀氀 洀礀ഊnotes and expansions and lists and spreadsheets. I happened to have the ਀欀椀渀搀 漀昀 戀椀渀搀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 氀攀琀✀猀 礀漀甀 猀氀椀瀀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 椀渀琀漀 椀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀攀搀ഊcover. That's where the event-flyer went so I'd also have that info on hand ਀椀昀 渀攀攀搀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 琀栀椀渀最 䤀 栀愀搀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 渀椀昀琀礀Ⰰ 最氀愀爀攀ⴀ昀爀攀攀 瀀愀最攀ഊcovers to keep spills off the recipes being used in the kitchen, important ਀愀猀 漀甀爀 椀渀欀ⴀ樀攀琀 椀渀欀 椀猀 渀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀瀀爀漀漀昀℀℀℀ഊBonne ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㘀 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㈀㨀㈀㐀㨀 㔀 ⴀ 㠀  ഊFrom: "James F. Johnson" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀攀愀猀琀 匀琀漀爀椀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 ㄀㄀琀栀 一椀最栀琀 䤀渀瘀攀猀琀椀琀甀爀攀 ⠀䰀伀一䜀⤀ഊ ਀䈀漀渀渀攀 漀昀 吀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> The only thing I had that you didn't mention was nifty, glare-free page ਀㸀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 猀瀀椀氀氀猀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 戀攀椀渀最 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ 椀洀瀀漀爀琀愀渀琀ഊ> as our ink-jet ink is not waterproof!!! ਀ഊI had the covers at the site, I just never used them. I didn't cook from ਀琀栀攀 渀漀琀攀戀漀漀欀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 昀爀漀洀 漀渀攀 猀攀琀 漀昀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀愀瀀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀⸀ 吀栀攀 眀攀爀攀ഊfine that way, as I never really touched them, and they never fell, it ਀樀甀猀琀 愀氀氀漀眀攀搀 洀攀 琀漀 猀挀愀渀 琀栀攀洀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 焀甀椀挀欀氀礀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 䤀 栀愀搀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀攀ഊglossy kind, as my original plan was to cover them before taping them up ਀⠀戀甀琀 䤀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 漀昀昀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 氀愀琀攀⸀⸀⸀⸀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 甀猀攀 愀 搀爀礀 攀爀愀猀攀 瀀攀渀 琀漀 挀栀攀挀欀ഊoff various steps in each recipe. In that specific regard (writing on ਀眀椀琀栀 愀 搀爀礀 攀爀愀猀攀 洀愀爀欀攀爀⤀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 最氀漀猀猀礀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 搀漀 戀攀琀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 氀愀挀欀 琀栀愀琀ഊpebbly surface that discourages wiping the marker medium off. And the ਀最氀漀猀猀椀攀猀 愀爀攀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 琀漀 眀椀瀀攀 愀渀搀 挀氀攀愀渀 昀爀漀洀 洀漀猀琀 猀瀀椀氀氀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 樀甀猀琀 挀愀琀挀栀ഊlight glare really well. ਀ഊFortunately, my printers are laser types, but I have access to a colour ਀樀攀琀 椀昀 䤀 眀愀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀匀攀甀洀愀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:04:03 EST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䰀爀搀刀愀猀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: SC - Education-Public Consumption key ਀ഊIn a message dated 2/27/00 3:33:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, seumas at mind.net ਀眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ<< The ਀ 瀀攀爀昀漀爀洀攀爀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 眀愀椀琀椀渀最 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 漀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀愀氀 挀甀爀椀漀甀猀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 愀ഊ chance and come to the concert hall or theater, and pay for the ਀ 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 漀甀琀 漀渀 愀 洀椀猀猀椀漀渀 漀昀 挀漀渀瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀⸀ 吀栀愀琀ഊ is what I advocate. ਀ ഊ Seumas >> ਀ഊIn this, my friend, we have reached common ground. I really don't know how to ਀愀挀栀椀攀瘀攀 琀栀椀猀 挀漀渀瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 戀礀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀⸀ 䰀漀挀愀氀 昀攀愀猀琀猀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 愀爀攀愀 愀爀攀 ഊmore often than not sold out weeks in advance and I can't think of a feast in ਀琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 ㌀ 礀攀愀爀猀 琀栀愀琀 猀琀椀氀氀 栀愀搀 漀渀戀漀愀爀搀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀⸀ഊ ਀伀甀爀 猀栀椀爀攀 ⠀愀渀搀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 猀甀爀爀漀甀渀搀椀渀最 猀栀椀爀攀猀⤀ 氀椀洀椀琀 漀渀戀漀愀爀搀 猀瀀愀挀攀 琀漀 㠀 Ⰰ ㄀  Ⰰ ഊ125 or rarely 150 gentles. Ample room is provided when possible for off board ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 猀椀琀 愀猀 挀氀漀猀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀椀漀渀 愀猀 椀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 爀漀漀洀 ഊor in and adjoining area. We have several cooks jockeying for the position of ਀䬀椀琀挀栀攀渀 匀琀攀眀愀爀搀 猀漀 昀椀渀搀椀渀最 愀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 琀漀 戀攀 椀渀 挀栀愀爀最攀 椀猀 渀漀琀 愀渀 椀猀猀甀攀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 氀漀挀愀氀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀琀攀眀愀爀搀猀 栀愀瘀攀 瘀愀爀礀椀渀最 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀 昀漀爀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 愀渀搀 ഊpresenting the feast (which always contains period dishes with a few notable ਀攀砀挀攀瀀琀椀漀渀猀⤀⸀ ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀 䤀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 漀渀攀 洀愀樀漀爀 搀椀猀栀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 ഊentertaining or unusual, a major meat in each course and fill in dishes of ਀瘀攀最攀琀愀戀氀攀Ⰰ 最爀愀椀渀 愀渀搀 昀爀甀椀琀 挀漀渀挀漀挀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ 一漀 瀀爀攀ⴀ昀攀愀猀琀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 ഊcarried out other than determining what quantities of what ingredients should ਀戀攀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀搀⸀ 䤀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⠀爀愀琀栀攀爀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 ഊtranslations) and permanent redactions are written down after the fact based ਀漀渀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䈀漀琀栀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 洀礀猀攀氀昀 琀愀猀琀攀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 ഊfirst time in several hundred years when it is served. ਀ഊMaster Gille uses a combination of recipes previously redacted by others with ਀愀渀 漀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀愀氀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀 爀攀搀愀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䠀攀 琀攀渀搀猀 渀漀琀 琀漀 甀猀攀 猀愀氀琀 愀渀搀 瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀 昀漀爀 ഊreasons that are vague to me. He pretests most of the recipes. ਀ഊTHL Thorstein uses all period dishes from 'famous' works and fills in with a ਀昀攀眀 ✀琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀⼀攀琀栀渀椀挀✀ 琀椀搀戀椀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 洀愀礀 漀爀 洀愀礀 渀漀琀 戀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䠀攀 琀攀猀琀猀 愀氀氀 ഊrecipes before the actual feast date. ਀ഊFeasts are usually 3 courses with each course consisting of 3 to 5 dishes. ਀吀栀攀猀攀 挀漀甀爀猀攀猀 愀爀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 椀渀椀琀椀愀氀 猀攀爀瘀椀挀攀 漀昀 氀漀愀瘀攀猀 漀昀 戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ ഊcheeses, fresh fruit and/or vegetables and some sort of a broth/soup dish. ਀䔀愀挀栀 琀愀戀氀攀 漀昀 㠀 椀猀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀搀 琀漀 挀栀漀漀猀攀 漀渀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 琀愀戀氀攀 琀漀 愀挀琀 愀猀 ഊserver. Each dish is served family style with the main dish sometimes being ਀瀀愀爀愀搀攀搀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 栀愀氀氀 愀渀搀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀攀搀 昀漀爀 愀瀀瀀爀漀瘀愀氀 愀琀 䠀椀最栀 吀愀戀氀攀⸀ 匀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 ഊdishes that do not appear on the tables of the attending nobles are always ਀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 琀漀 栀椀最栀 琀愀戀氀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀猀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 愀爀攀 瀀愀椀搀 昀漀爀 ഊby the Kitchen Steward or from private donations. ਀ഊThe Kitchen Steward has total control over the content of the menu after ਀戀攀椀渀最 椀渀昀漀爀洀攀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀✀猀 琀栀攀洀攀 戀礀 琀栀攀 䄀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀⸀ 䴀攀渀甀 猀琀爀甀挀琀甀爀攀 猀攀氀搀漀洀 ഊdeviates from the theme. For instance, a recent event theme was Lady's ਀䌀栀愀洀瀀椀漀渀猀 吀漀甀爀渀攀礀⸀ 匀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 瀀愀最攀愀渀琀爀礀 漀昀 䈀甀爀最甀渀搀椀愀渀 琀漀甀爀渀愀洀攀渀琀猀 挀愀洀攀 琀漀 ഊmind, the theme was middle eastern and this was a fun and laid back event, I ਀挀栀漀猀攀 琀漀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 攀愀猀琀攀爀渀 昀攀愀猀琀 愀猀 椀琀 洀椀最栀琀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 搀漀渀攀 椀渀 ഊa barbarian court. For Schola I presented a French Repast. Will's Revenge ਀昀攀愀猀琀猀 愀爀攀 漀昀琀攀渀 琀愀欀攀渀 昀爀漀洀 䘀漀爀洀攀 漀昀 䌀甀爀礀攀⸀ 刀愀爀攀氀礀 愀爀攀 氀愀琀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ഊused by any of the local Kitchen Stewards. ਀ഊFor demos, St. Matha's Guild actually sets up a period cooking site with fire ਀瀀椀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 漀甀琀搀漀漀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀猀猀漀挀椀愀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 愀 洀椀氀椀琀愀爀礀 昀椀攀氀搀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀⸀ ഊThis set up is rather small and portable and features a boiling dish of ਀猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀 猀瀀椀琀琀攀搀 挀爀攀愀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀Ⰰ 愀 琀愀戀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 猀愀洀瀀氀攀猀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 ഊspices, vegetables and fruits, period cookbooks, charts, illuminations, ਀愀最爀椀挀甀氀琀甀爀愀氀 琀漀漀氀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ 倀攀爀椀漀搀 最椀渀最攀爀戀爀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 瀀愀猀琀椀攀猀 漀昀 爀愀戀戀椀琀 ഊor spinach and cheese are offered as tasting incentives. ਀ഊRecently, we were invited to set up a display of medieval artifacts and ਀爀攀瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀 椀渀 愀 爀漀漀洀 愀琀 愀 氀漀挀愀氀 洀甀猀攀甀洀⸀ 倀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 搀椀猀瀀氀愀礀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀搀 愀 ഊcooking section. Cooking displays are a common part of the numerous school ਀搀攀洀漀猀 眀攀 挀漀渀搀甀挀琀 攀愀挀栀 礀攀愀爀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀漀甀琀 戀漀琀栀 琀栀攀 䰀攀眀椀猀戀甀爀最 愀渀搀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀瀀漀爀琀 ഊschool districts. ਀ഊSeumus is correct. Education is the key. Making period cookery a high profile ਀椀琀攀洀 愀琀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 搀攀洀漀猀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀愀琀 攀搀甀挀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 吀愀欀椀渀最 愀搀瘀愀渀琀愀最攀 漀昀 攀瘀攀爀礀 ഊopportunity to focus people's minds and senses on period cookery is the key. ਀唀渀挀漀洀瀀爀漀洀椀猀椀渀最 搀攀搀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀琀甀搀礀 愀渀搀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 挀漀漀欀攀爀礀 椀猀 ഊthe way. ਀ഊal-Sayyid Ras al-Zib, AoA, OSyc, OKey ਀䜀甀椀氀搀洀愀猀琀攀爀 漀昀 匀琀⸀ 䴀愀爀琀栀愀✀猀 䜀甀椀氀搀ഊApprentice of Master Huen ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ  ㄀ 䴀愀爀 ㈀    ㄀㄀㨀㌀㤀㨀㄀㈀ ⬀㄀㄀  ഊFrom: Lorix ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 眀愀猀 洀甀猀栀爀漀漀洀 愀氀氀攀爀最椀攀猀 ☀ 昀漀漀搀 栀礀最攀渀攀 爀愀渀琀ഊ ਀圀栀攀渀 䤀 愀洀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀 愀洀 瘀攀爀礀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀氀猀 漀昀 挀爀漀猀猀ⴀ挀漀渀琀愀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀氀礀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 愀洀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀猀⸀  䤀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 愀氀氀 甀琀攀渀猀椀氀猀 愀爀攀 眀愀猀栀攀搀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 攀愀挀栀 搀椀猀栀 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 挀愀渀 愀猀猀甀爀攀 洀礀 昀攀愀猀琀攀爀猀 琀栀愀琀 攀愀挀栀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 栀愀猀 漀渀氀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 椀渀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀㰀爀愀渀琀 洀漀搀攀 漀渀Ⰰ 猀漀愀瀀戀漀砀 渀漀眀 戀攀椀渀最 猀琀攀瀀瀀攀搀 漀渀 琀漀 㬀ⴀ㸀ഊ ਀伀渀 愀 爀攀氀愀琀攀搀 渀漀琀攀Ⰰ 昀漀漀搀 栀礀最椀攀渀攀 椀猀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 搀漀渀✀琀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 琀栀椀渀欀 愀戀漀甀琀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 愀洀愀稀椀渀最 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀椀氀氀 挀漀洀攀 椀渀琀漀 愀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀渀搀 漀昀昀攀爀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 ☀ 搀漀渀✀琀 眀愀猀栀 琀栀攀椀爀 栀愀渀搀猀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 眀愀渀琀椀渀最 琀漀 猀琀愀爀琀 栀攀氀瀀椀渀最 ⸀ ⸀ ⸀ 椀琀✀猀 最漀琀 琀漀 愀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 樀漀欀攀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 愀洀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 渀漀眀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 挀栀漀爀甀猀 昀爀漀洀 愀氀氀 椀渀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 眀栀攀渀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 眀愀氀欀猀 椀渀 琀漀 ∀眀愀猀栀 琀栀攀椀爀 栀愀渀搀猀∀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀漀搀 栀礀最椀攀渀攀 椀猀 洀礀 瀀攀琀 漀戀猀攀猀猀椀漀渀 ⠀瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀氀礀 眀栀攀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀猀⤀ 愀渀搀 琀漀 挀漀洀戀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 眀椀琀栀 猀漀洀攀 瘀漀氀甀渀琀攀攀爀猀✀ 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀 栀礀最椀攀渀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 爀甀氀攀 琀栀愀琀 开愀渀礀漀渀攀开 眀栀漀猀攀 栀愀渀搀猀 愀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 戀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 洀甀猀琀 眀攀愀爀 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 搀椀猀瀀漀猀愀戀氀攀 最氀漀瘀攀猀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀搀⸀  䤀渀 㤀㤀⸀㤀─ 洀礀 昀攀愀爀猀 愀爀攀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 最爀漀甀渀搀氀攀猀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 瀀爀攀挀愀甀琀椀漀渀猀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 琀栀愀琀  ⸀ ㄀─ 㬀ⴀ⤀ ഊ ਀䤀 瘀椀瘀椀搀氀礀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 漀渀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 䤀 愀琀琀攀渀搀攀搀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀 愀猀 愀 眀愀礀昀愀爀攀爀⸀  䄀猀 椀猀 洀礀 眀漀渀✀琀 䤀 眀愀渀搀攀爀攀搀 搀漀眀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 琀漀 漀昀昀攀爀 洀礀 愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀挀攀 ☀ 愀昀琀攀爀 漀渀攀 栀漀爀爀椀昀椀攀搀 氀漀漀欀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 愀戀猀琀愀椀渀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 攀愀琀椀渀最 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀  吀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 樀甀猀琀 瀀爀椀漀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 猀愀眀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀琀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ 䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 琀爀甀氀礀 爀攀愀氀椀猀攀 栀漀眀 戀愀搀 椀琀 眀愀猀 琀椀氀氀 氀愀琀攀爀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 栀愀搀 琀栀攀 ✀瀀氀攀愀猀甀爀攀✀ 漀昀 挀氀攀愀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ ⠀椀琀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀 椀渀 琀栀愀琀 最爀漀甀瀀 琀栀愀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀 挀漀漀欀攀搀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 挀氀攀愀渀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 栀愀搀 愀 氀漀瘀攀氀礀 氀愀爀最攀 猀琀愀椀渀氀攀猀猀 猀琀攀攀氀 戀攀渀挀栀 琀栀愀琀 爀愀渀 爀椀最栀琀 搀漀眀渀 琀栀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 昀漀爀 昀漀漀搀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀愀琀椀漀渀⸀  䤀琀 栀愀搀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀甀瀀戀漀愀爀搀猀 ☀ 戀攀渀挀栀攀猀 愀氀氀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ ㈀ 戀椀最 猀琀攀攀氀 眀愀猀栀椀渀最 猀椀渀欀猀Ⰰ 愀渀 椀渀搀甀猀琀爀椀愀氀 搀椀猀栀眀愀猀栀攀爀 ☀ 愀渀 椀渀猀椀渀欀攀爀愀琀漀爀⸀  䘀爀漀洀 洀礀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀 瘀椀攀眀 椀琀 眀愀猀 愀 搀爀攀愀洀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 椀渀 ⠀䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀甀猀琀爀椀愀氀 漀瘀攀渀 㬀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀倀爀攀瀀愀爀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 栀愀搀 漀戀瘀椀漀甀猀氀礀 挀漀洀洀攀渀挀攀搀 愀琀 漀渀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀愀琀椀漀渀 戀攀渀挀栀 ☀ 挀漀渀琀椀渀甀攀搀 搀漀眀渀 琀栀攀 戀攀渀挀栀 眀椀琀栀 攀愀挀栀 渀攀眀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 樀甀搀最椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 搀攀戀爀椀猀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 瘀攀最攀琀愀戀氀攀 瀀攀攀氀椀渀最猀 ⠀愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 ✀眀愀猀琀攀✀ 昀漀漀搀 瀀愀爀琀猀⤀ 椀渀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 瀀椀氀攀猀 愀氀氀 愀氀漀渀最 琀栀攀 戀攀渀挀栀 ☀ 瀀椀氀攀搀 愀氀氀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀漀爀⸀  䤀渀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀攀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀愀琀攀搀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀 琀漀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 ☀ 氀攀琀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 瀀攀攀氀椀渀最猀 昀愀氀氀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀漀爀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 戀椀渀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 ⠀愀渀搀 䤀 洀攀愀渀 洀漀甀渀搀猀 漀昀 猀氀椀瀀瀀攀爀礀 瀀攀攀氀椀渀最猀 樀甀猀琀 眀愀椀琀椀渀最 琀漀 戀攀 猀琀攀瀀瀀攀搀 漀渀⤀⸀  䔀瘀攀爀礀 挀漀渀挀攀椀瘀愀戀氀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 眀愀猀 猀琀愀挀欀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 搀椀爀琀礀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 瀀氀愀琀琀攀爀猀 漀爀 昀漀漀搀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀愀琀椀漀渀 甀琀攀渀猀椀氀猀⸀  䤀琀 眀愀猀 漀戀瘀椀漀甀猀 琀栀愀琀 猀琀甀昀昀 栀愀搀 搀爀椀瀀瀀攀搀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀挀愀爀搀攀搀 瀀氀愀琀琀攀爀猀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 戀攀渀挀栀攀猀 ☀ 琀栀愀琀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 挀氀攀愀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀猀Ⰰ 昀漀漀搀 栀愀搀 戀攀攀渀 挀栀漀瀀瀀攀搀 椀渀 愀洀漀渀最猀琀 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀⸀  ഊ ਀䄀琀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀搀 猀甀挀挀甀洀戀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀甀挀挀甀氀攀渀琀 猀琀爀愀眀戀攀爀爀椀攀猀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 栀甀氀氀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 戀漀眀氀猀 漀昀 挀爀攀愀洀⸀  圀栀攀渀 䤀 猀愀眀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ 䤀 琀爀甀氀礀 眀椀猀栀攀搀 䤀 栀愀搀渀✀琀⸀ ഊ ਀䰀攀最猀 漀昀 氀愀洀戀 栀愀搀 戀攀攀渀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 愀猀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀攀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 昀爀漀稀攀渀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀渀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 眀栀椀氀猀琀 戀甀爀渀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 眀栀攀爀攀 甀渀挀漀漀欀攀搀 瀀愀猀琀 ㈀挀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀琀 ☀ 栀愀爀搀⼀挀漀氀搀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀 琀栀攀 戀漀渀攀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 栀愀搀 漀戀瘀椀漀甀猀氀礀 戀攀攀渀 愀琀琀攀洀瀀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 琀漀 挀愀爀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀漀愀猀琀猀 愀琀 漀渀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀攀琀愀氀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 戀攀渀挀栀 ⠀戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 猀攀渀琀 漀甀琀 甀渀挀愀爀瘀攀搀 ☀ 甀渀挀漀漀欀攀搀⤀⸀  䈀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀漀爀 眀愀猀 猀氀椀最栀琀氀礀 猀氀愀渀琀攀搀Ⰰ 猀漀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 戀攀渀挀栀⸀  吀栀攀 洀攀愀琀 栀愀搀 戀攀攀渀 挀甀琀 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 戀攀渀挀栀 ☀ 戀氀漀漀搀 栀愀搀 瀀漀漀氀攀搀 ☀ 爀甀渀 搀漀眀渀 琀栀攀 挀攀渀琀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀攀渀挀栀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 攀渀搀 ☀ 琀栀攀 搀爀椀瀀瀀攀搀 漀昀昀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀漀爀⸀  圀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 搀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀椀渀最 眀愀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀愀眀戀攀爀爀椀攀猀 栀愀搀 漀戀瘀椀漀甀猀氀礀 ⠀琀栀攀 搀攀戀爀椀猀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 ☀ 猀漀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 挀甀琀 洀愀爀欀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 戀攀渀挀栀 ☀ 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀爀椀攀搀 戀氀漀漀搀⤀ 戀攀攀渀 栀甀氀氀攀搀 椀渀 愀洀漀渀最猀琀 琀栀攀 戀氀漀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 琀栀椀猀 漀渀氀礀 椀渀猀漀昀愀爀 愀猀 椀琀 椀猀 渀漀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀 昀漀漀搀 愀氀氀攀爀最椀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀 愀氀猀漀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀 昀漀漀搀 栀礀最椀攀渀攀Ⰰ 挀爀漀猀猀ⴀ挀漀渀琀愀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀猀甀攀猀Ⰰ 氀攀渀最琀栀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀 昀漀漀搀 椀猀 氀攀昀琀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀攀搀Ⰰ 搀愀渀最攀爀猀 漀昀 爀攀ⴀ栀攀愀琀椀渀最 昀漀漀搀 ☀ 渀漀琀 栀攀愀琀椀渀最 椀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 欀椀氀氀 戀愀挀琀攀爀椀愀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀  ഊ ਀䘀漀漀搀 瀀漀椀猀漀渀椀渀最 洀椀最栀琀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀 开爀攀愀氀氀礀开 搀漀渀✀琀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 爀攀挀爀攀愀琀攀 椀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 愀最攀猀⸀ഊ ਀㰀爀愀渀琀 洀漀搀攀 渀漀眀 漀昀昀 㬀ⴀ㸀ഊ ਀䰀漀爀椀砀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 02:13:12 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䌀栀爀椀猀琀椀渀攀 䄀 匀攀攀氀礀攀ⴀ䬀椀渀最 㰀洀攀爀洀愀礀搀攀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: SC - Not Killing yourself in the Kitchen ਀ഊ>Among the cook-ly types I hang with, we have a little tradition. ਀  ഊ>When one of us is the Kitchener for an event, the rest of us are ਀㸀䐀漀戀攀爀洀愀渀猀⸀  吀栀攀 漀渀攀 眀栀漀✀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 氀椀渀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀 椀猀 瀀栀礀猀椀挀愀氀氀礀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀ഊ>(and with some of our over-achievers, physically can mean picked up and carried ਀㸀漀甀琀⤀ 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 昀漀爀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 漀渀攀 栀愀氀昀ⴀ栀漀甀爀 愀琀 洀椀搀ⴀ搀愀礀 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀渀 猀漀洀攀瀀氀愀挀攀ഊ>quiet where they can have a real lunch served to them. This has been ਀㸀攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀  栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀 琀漀 愀氀氀 漀昀 甀猀Ⰰ 猀椀渀挀攀 挀漀漀欀猀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 琀攀渀搀攀渀挀礀 琀漀 昀漀爀最攀琀ഊ>about themselves when they're hard at it in the kitchen. ਀㸀 ഊ> Wolfmom ਀ഊ My late husband (Master Knikolos, who was originally from Trimaris, one ਀漀昀 吀愀氀礀✀猀 瀀爀漀琀攀最攀猀Ⰰ 戀琀眀⤀ 最漀琀 洀攀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 戀爀椀渀最椀渀最 愀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀 氀甀渀挀栀 眀栀攀渀 䤀ഊwas cooking. The first time he walked in with a Subway sandwich, I said ਀∀䈀甀琀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 昀漀漀搀 栀攀爀攀℀∀ 琀漀 眀栀椀挀栀 栀攀 爀攀瀀氀椀攀搀 ∀䄀渀搀 栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀 漀昀ഊit is ready to eat right now?". He was right, and having something in ਀琀栀攀 昀爀椀搀最攀 琀漀 攀愀琀 昀漀爀 氀甀渀挀栀 椀猀 渀漀眀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 洀礀 爀漀甀琀椀渀攀Ⰰ 漀爀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊpre-planning I teach to my students. You are so right, it is easy to ਀昀漀爀最攀琀 琀漀 挀愀爀攀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 漀昀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀椀渀最 愀ഊfeast (or autocratting, or any other large task). ਀ഊ Christianna ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㔀 䴀愀爀 ㈀    ㄀㠀㨀㄀㘀㨀㐀  䔀匀吀ഊFrom: allilyn at juno.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀攀愀猀琀 䘀椀砀椀渀✀猀ഊ ਀㸀㸀 䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀 椀猀 琀漀 瀀漀爀琀椀漀渀 漀甀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀 氀椀欀攀 ഊbutter and cold sauces/condiments into the small bowls or cups they will be ਀猀攀爀瘀攀搀 椀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 漀渀 琀爀愀礀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀氀攀爀 攀愀爀氀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀⸀ 匀瀀愀挀攀 眀漀渀✀琀 ഊalways permit that, of course, but it works nicely when you have the ਀爀漀漀洀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀䴀漀爀攀 挀漀漀氀攀爀猀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 搀漀 戀攀昀漀爀攀⸀  匀愀瘀攀 眀愀猀栀攀搀ഊcans all the same size. Set in cooler bottom, scatter ice around but not ਀甀瀀 琀漀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀猀⸀  匀攀琀 琀爀愀礀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀猀Ⰰ 愀戀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 椀挀攀⸀  䤀昀ഊcooler is deep enough, put more cans and more trays built up in layers. ਀ഊRegards, ਀䄀氀氀椀猀漀渀Ⰰ     愀氀氀椀氀礀渀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 22:10:10 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 刀椀挀栀匀䌀䄀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Open/Closed Kitchens WAS: Feast planning/Administration ਀ഊI do not think I am operating on the same definition of an open/closed ਀欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀猀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀⸀  䈀甀琀 昀漀爀 洀攀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 甀猀甀愀氀  㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀䤀 氀漀瘀攀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 椀渀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀⸀  吀栀椀猀 椀猀 栀漀眀 䤀 洀攀琀 ∀洀礀∀ 倀攀攀爀Ⰰ 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 愀爀爀椀瘀攀 愀琀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀 䤀 猀琀漀瀀 戀礀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 琀漀 愀猀欀 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 渀攀攀搀 ഊany help. I have been told (nicely) "No, thank you. We have our own kitchen ਀猀琀愀昀昀∀⸀  䤀琀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀攀搀 琀漀 洀攀 琀栀愀琀 洀愀渀礀 琀椀洀攀猀 栀漀甀猀攀栀漀氀搀猀Ⰰ 最爀漀甀瀀猀 愀渀搀 ഊothers are "in charge" of preparing the feast and they have assigned all the ਀琀愀猀欀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀椀爀 最爀漀甀瀀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 渀攀攀搀 渀漀 ∀搀爀漀瀀ⴀ椀渀 愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀挀攀∀⸀  䘀漀爀 洀攀 琀栀椀猀 ഊwould be a "closed" kitchen. ਀ഊNow if I drop by your kitchen to see if you need any help and you give me a ਀瀀椀氀攀 漀昀 漀渀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 愀 欀渀椀昀攀 琀栀攀渀 ⠀琀漀 洀攀⤀ 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀渀 ∀漀瀀攀渀∀ 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀⸀  伀瀀攀渀 昀漀爀 ഊanyone willing to help to help. ਀ഊI find that many people WANT to help at events. There is a friendliness in ਀琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀⸀  䘀漀爀 琀栀椀猀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 挀漀漀欀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 䤀 琀爀礀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 ഊhave "something" for someone to do if they ask to help. Someone can watch a ਀瀀漀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 戀漀椀氀 漀瘀攀爀 漀爀 琀漀 爀甀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 瀀愀渀琀爀礀 愀渀搀 昀攀琀挀栀 ഊthings if there is not actual cooking assistance I require. Now I do take ਀挀愀爀攀 琀漀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀漀 昀椀氀氀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀栀愀琀 渀漀 漀渀攀 挀愀渀 洀漀瘀攀 愀渀搀 ഊalso try to limit the amount of non-working visitors in the area. I am VERY ਀挀漀渀猀挀椀漀甀猀 漀昀 昀漀漀搀 栀攀愀氀琀栀 愀渀搀 猀愀昀攀琀礀 愀渀搀 猀琀爀椀瘀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 洀礀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 ഊstaff will insure "safely" prepared food. I always welcome a "non-busy" ਀䌀栀椀爀甀爀最攀漀渀 ⠀眀椀琀栀 昀椀爀猀琀 愀椀搀 欀椀琀⤀ 琀漀 ∀洀愀渀∀ 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀渀搀 欀攀攀瀀 甀猀 挀漀洀瀀愀渀礀⸀  ഊ ਀刀愀礀渀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:35:48 -0400 (EDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀漀爀最愀渀 䌀愀椀渀 㰀洀漀爀最愀渀挀愀椀渀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Subject: Re: SC - Open/Closed Kitchens ਀ഊAs one of the many who started in the SCA by chopping things (explaining my original heraldry of a leek and a knife, crossed), and moved on as head cook for over a dozen feasts and helping at countless others, I have mixed views of open kitchens. I do, however, totally oppose CLOSED kitchens because that discourages people from helping! I have made a lot of neat friends, and whiled away many otherwise-boring hours, by wandering into a kitchen and offering to help. I might get the chop-veggies job, and I might get to arrange things for High Table or roll pastry, and it might be anything in between. ਀ഊWith an open kitchen, I generally have some rules and require others to abide by them: ਀ഊ1) In the kitchen, you are WORKING! No standing around idly talking -- that's why we have so much space in the hall. (Of course, I would make an exception for a person who wants to hide in a quiet corner for a short time, if they asked and we could afford it. Within an hour before service, not likely.) I have thrown out of the kitchen someone who volunteered to help, and then spent the time walking in a circle nattering inanely. Several attempts to get the person to either (a) work or (b) SHUT UP were unavailing, so out he went -- bodily! ਀ഊ2) People MUST adhere to rules of hygeine. Long hair MUST be tied up or under a cap; flowing garments must be restrained. Washing of hands mandatory, and if you fool with your face or hair, wash again. (The occasional nose rub with back of hand may not be an issue for a chopper or stirrer, is for dough worker.) Sick people not wanted, especially if sneezy or sniffly (but if it's an allergy and you wash hands after blowing, you're allowed; I make judgment calls, and have allergies). I'll try to bring a squirt bottle of soap, or bars (this is a great time to use superfatted and "beauty bars" as hands get a lot of washing and every extra emollient helps), and rolls of paper towelling SPECIFICALLY for hand-washing needs. ਀ഊ3) Surfaces are to be washed as frequently as needed, or after every step in the process, whichever comes first. Not only is this good hygeine, it speeds up the cleanup later. This is also MANDATORY for sticky-sweet and floury items, as they can cause grief later if not cleaned up promptly (chisling off hardened flour-glue or sugar residue is tedious, and more so at 10:00pm). ਀ഊ4) I bring washing-up gear, to be sure that proper supplies are in place, unless I have cased the location beforehand and been assured about the supplies. Having a couple backups never hurts; I run them on a separate receipt and keep if not needed. These include bleach-containing and antiseptic products for washing counters. Bleach solution is a must for cutting boards and countertops after meat was prepared on them, unless, at least for the former, you can put them into a sanitizer. ਀ഊ5) I try to have things for people to do at various levels, and ask them to understand and come back later if the only items going are high-experience ones, with chopping to occur later. I don't mind if someone told to, for example, stir the apply moyse for forty minutes, asks questions about feast planning and the other things going on while they work. I am also fairly broad-minded about skill levels, and don't assume the aged person can cook expertly any more than I assume a preteen is there just to please the parents by getting out from under their feet. I do check for skill levels and may adjust for ability to reach the countertops or top of the soupkettle. ਀ഊ6) EAT. I insist that the cooks and feast preparers EAT and DRINK as required. This might be on the run, it might be the "failed" tarte that browned unevenly or a spread of bread and cheese and fruit, but I have things set aside specifically for the kitchen crew. There is no excuse for someone not eating all day just because they are cooking! Now, if someone decides to cook because they have food problems and also refuse the munchies, and never told me about their problems, they had better bring some food of their own. I try to provide a very general assortment of things for the cooking crew, and also items that don't require you to sit down and eat but can be handled with one hand while stirring with the other. ਀ഊI also make it a policy to serve the servers DURING the meal, not one of those simple pre-feast meals some people use. I am rarely hungry at 5:00pm when people insist upon serving this, and usually still busy with some other chore about the site. So I miss supper and then am forbidden to eat during feast! With proper planning, the feast service allows time for the servers to eat the same food as all others have. I do try to forbid them from sitting at main tables because that makes it harder to collect them for the next course, but try to have tables near the kitchen door for them to use. ਀ഊYMMV, of course. ਀ഊ---= Morgan ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀  䄀瀀爀 ㈀    ㄀㠀㨀㄀ 㨀㌀㄀ 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: ChannonM at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 伀瀀攀渀⼀䌀氀漀猀攀搀 䬀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀ⴀ刀攀眀愀爀搀猀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 琀爀椀攀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 洀礀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀渀 椀渀瘀椀琀椀渀最 瀀氀愀挀攀⸀ 䤀 攀渀猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 ഊhave music and a copy of my recipes as a special hand out to the staff who ਀栀攀氀瀀⸀ 䤀 攀渀猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 琀愀欀攀猀 戀爀攀愀欀猀 爀攀最甀氀愀爀氀礀 愀渀搀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 渀漀琀椀挀攀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 ഊnot eating, I buy their lunch. ਀ഊIn addition, when I am called out to be thanked during the feast, I in turn ਀挀愀氀氀 甀瀀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 栀攀氀瀀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 猀瀀攀渀琀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 琀漀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 挀愀爀瘀攀搀 ഊradishes for garnish, to the servers and give them a token of my ਀愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 伀渀攀 礀攀愀爀 䤀 最愀瘀攀 漀甀琀 昀氀漀眀攀爀猀Ⰰ 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 愀 瀀攀眀琀攀爀 猀愀氀琀 猀瀀漀漀渀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 ഊyear I burned in a Celtic Cross on the back of wooden spoons (30 of them) My ਀昀攀愀爀 椀猀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 眀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 栀愀渀搀 漀甀琀⸀ ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀 琀漀 愀猀猀椀猀琀 椀渀 洀礀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 昀爀漀洀 愀猀 昀愀爀 愀眀愀礀 愀猀 一攀眀 夀漀爀欀 ഊ(Baron Sean and Lady Illya) and Northern Michigan. I don't think it's because ਀䤀 最椀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀栀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 昀攀攀氀 眀攀氀挀漀洀攀搀 ഊand appreciated. ਀ഊThat's what I want anyone who works in my kitchen to take home with them, the ਀眀愀爀洀 昀甀稀稀礀✀猀 㨀⤀ഊ ਀䠀愀甀瘀椀攀琀琀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:30:21 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䨀愀洀攀猀 䘀⸀ 䨀漀栀渀猀漀渀∀ 㰀猀攀甀洀愀猀 愀琀 洀椀渀搀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: SC - Staff rewards ਀ഊRichSCA at aol.com wrote: ਀㸀 圀栀愀琀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 欀渀漀眀 椀猀 栀漀眀 搀漀攀猀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 䰀椀猀琀 ∀爀攀眀愀爀搀∀ഊ> their assistant chefs, stewarts and servers. Or do they? (for this change ਀㸀 漀昀 琀漀瀀椀挀 ⴀ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 挀栀愀渀最攀 琀栀攀 匀唀䈀䨀䔀䌀吀 䰀䤀一䔀 琀漀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀搀 ∀爀攀眀愀爀搀猀∀ 漀爀ഊ> something along that line. Thanks. ਀ഊFor my last feast, I supplied chocolate (post period be d**ned! It was ਀椀渀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 琀栀攀 栀愀氀氀⤀ 愀渀搀 氀愀琀攀爀 最愀瘀攀 攀愀挀栀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 ⠀洀漀猀琀 渀漀琀 戀攀椀渀最ഊardent cooks themselves) a choice of powdre forte or powdre douce in ਀猀洀愀氀氀 栀愀渀搀戀氀漀眀渀 最氀愀猀猀 戀漀琀琀氀攀猀⸀ 䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 䄀氀礀猀 琀栀攀 䐀椀猀栀 䜀漀搀搀攀猀猀 最漀琀 漀渀攀 漀昀ഊeach. My hall steward got saffron, she being highly fond of similar ਀挀漀氀漀甀爀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 眀漀甀氀搀 甀猀攀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀匀攀甀洀愀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:42:53 +1000 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀氀愀挀欀 䨀愀搀攀 㰀䈀氀愀挀欀开䨀愀搀攀 愀琀 戀椀最瀀漀渀搀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Staff rewards ਀ഊ>> What I would like to know is how does the various cooks on this List ਀㸀㸀∀爀攀眀愀爀搀∀ഊ>> their assistant chefs, stewarts and servers. Or do they? (for this change ਀㸀㸀 漀昀 琀漀瀀椀挀 ⴀ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 挀栀愀渀最攀 琀栀攀 匀唀䈀䨀䔀䌀吀 䰀䤀一䔀 琀漀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀搀 ∀爀攀眀愀爀搀猀∀ 漀爀ഊ>> something along that line. Thanks. ਀ഊFor Coronet in September 1996 I provided a 5kg box of reject chocolate for ਀琀栀攀 匀琀攀眀愀爀搀椀渀最 吀攀愀洀⸀ 䤀 眀愀猀渀✀琀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 愀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 椀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 洀礀ഊfriends were, up to and including my husband (then boyfriend) who was ਀䈀愀爀漀渀椀愀氀 刀攀攀瘀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀⸀  䤀琀 眀愀猀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 昀椀爀猀琀 愀椀搀ഊsituations to soothing frayed tempers A papercut or slipped knife doesn't ਀氀漀漀欀 栀愀氀昀 愀猀 戀愀搀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 挀栀漀挀漀氀愀琀攀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 瀀愀椀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀✀猀 愀 氀漀琀ഊharder to shout when you have some chocolate in your mouth. It was the ਀戀攀猀琀 猀瀀攀渀琀 ␀㈀㔀 椀渀 洀礀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 氀椀昀攀⸀  圀栀椀氀攀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 栀愀搀 琀栀攀椀爀ഊnervous breakdowns, at least it was done quietly without any really audible ਀猀挀爀攀愀洀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:31:02 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䬀愀爀攀渀 伀∀ 㰀欀愀爀攀渀漀 愀琀 氀攀眀椀猀琀漀眀渀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Open/Closed Kitchens & rewards ਀ഊFor helping, the married set that stayed with me all day, I gave a bottle ਀⠀㔀琀栀⤀  漀昀 洀礀 栀漀洀攀 戀爀攀眀攀搀 䠀愀稀攀氀渀甀琀 䰀椀焀甀攀爀⸀  吀栀攀  䠀攀愀搀 匀攀爀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 眀栀漀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 渀攀眀ഊ& this was her 1st major event, was given a bottle of peach chardonnay I ਀栀愀搀 戀爀漀甀最栀琀 琀漀 ∀猀栀愀爀攀∀ 眀椀琀栀 洀礀 猀琀愀昀昀⸀  䴀礀 瘀攀爀礀 氀漀瘀攀氀礀 ☀ 攀昀昀椀挀椀攀渀琀 愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀琀ഊcook, I gave a jar of homemade chokecherry syrup & a 6pack of beer I had ਀愀氀猀漀 戀爀漀甀最栀琀  琀漀 猀栀愀爀攀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 椀渀 洀椀渀搀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 昀漀爀 栀攀爀⸀    䤀 栀愀瘀攀ഊto think about a special something for the fellow who came in and started ਀眀漀爀欀椀渀最 ☀ 猀琀愀礀攀搀 琀椀氀 攀瘀攀爀礀 搀椀猀栀 眀愀猀 眀愀猀栀攀搀⸀  䤀 栀愀爀搀氀礀 欀渀漀眀 栀椀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀ഊan idea what would please him. ਀ഊ On the otherhand, I have been generously thanked in Court by Head ਀䌀漀漀欀猀  ⴀⴀ 眀栀攀渀 䤀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 洀礀 眀漀爀欀 眀愀猀 洀椀渀椀猀挀甀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀吀椀洀攀 琀漀 琀栀椀渀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 爀攀瘀椀攀眀 昀漀爀 氀愀猀琀 匀愀琀甀爀搀愀礀✀猀 䘀攀愀猀琀ഊCaointiarn ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀  䄀瀀爀 ㈀    ㈀㈀㨀㔀㔀㨀 ㄀ ⴀ 㜀  ഊFrom: Anne-Marie Rousseau ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 琀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀 琀漀欀攀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀栀攀礀 愀氀氀 昀爀漀洀 䄀渀渀攀ⴀ䴀愀爀椀攀ഊmaybe I'm old fashioned, but I find a heart felt thankyou to each person ਀洀攀愀渀猀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 愀渀礀 琀漀欀攀渀 漀爀 最椀稀洀漀⸀ 䤀 琀爀礀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 栀愀爀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀ഊgoing about the kitchen, throughout the day, and making sure each person ਀欀渀漀眀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 愀爀攀 愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀攀搀 戀礀 洀攀⸀ഊ ਀䌀漀甀爀琀猀 栀攀爀攀 爀甀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀甀氀琀椀瀀氀攀 栀漀甀爀猀⸀ 倀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀爀攀 戀漀爀攀搀 愀渀搀 琀椀爀攀搀 愀渀搀 眀愀渀琀ഊto go dance/drink/eat/fight/go home. The populace is not amused by the ਀欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 栀攀愀搀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀 樀椀氀氀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀 猀琀愀昀昀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀漀 琀栀愀渀欀 琀栀攀洀ഊindividually, and I find that I ALWAYS miss someone, and then we all feel bad. ਀ഊdifferent people need different levels of strokes, but I find that a ਀猀椀渀挀攀爀攀 攀砀瀀爀攀猀猀椀漀渀 漀昀 最爀愀琀椀琀甀搀攀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 洀攀Ⰰ 琀漀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 最漀 愀 氀漀渀最 眀愀礀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀ䄀䴀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:22:26 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䐀攀攀圀漀氀昀昀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Staff rewards ਀ഊWhat a great idea! I usually provide chocolate and one year everyone got ਀刀愀猀瀀戀攀爀爀礀 樀攀氀氀礀 䤀 栀愀搀 洀愀搀攀⸀ 䤀 愀氀猀漀 最愀瘀攀 漀甀琀 猀瀀漀漀渀猀 愀琀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 眀愀猀 ഊstumped at something different. Thanks for the spices idea!!! ਀ഊAndrea ਀伀猀琀最愀爀搀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:51:45 EDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䐀椀愀渀愀䘀椀漀渀愀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: SC - thank you tokens. ਀ഊacrouss at gte.net writes: ਀㰀㰀 ഊ different people need different levels of strokes, but I find that a ਀ 猀椀渀挀攀爀攀 攀砀瀀爀攀猀猀椀漀渀 漀昀 最爀愀琀椀琀甀搀攀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 洀攀Ⰰ 琀漀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 最漀 愀 氀漀渀最 眀愀礀⸀⸀⸀ഊ >> ਀ഊ True--I still like the idea of doing tokens, at least for those who ਀栀攀氀瀀攀搀 椀渀 愀 洀愀樀漀爀 眀愀礀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀⸀ 䈀甀琀 愀 猀氀椀最栀琀 琀眀椀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 ഊseen done, is to write thank-you notes to the main crew after the event is ਀漀瘀攀爀⸀ 䴀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 琀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 氀漀挀愀氀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 漀爀 最漀漀搀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀 昀爀漀洀 ഊout-of-town, so you generally have their names/address available. Mind you, I ਀⨀栀愀琀攀⨀ 琀漀 栀愀渀搀 眀爀椀琀攀 渀漀琀攀猀Ⰰ 愀猀 洀礀 猀瀀攀氀氀椀渀最 椀猀Ⰰ 甀洀洀洀洀洀Ⰰ 瘀攀爀礀 ∀瀀攀爀椀漀搀∀ 㬀ⴀ⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 ഊmy handwriting is pretty bad to boot. But it *is* effective--when I've been ਀漀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀攀椀瘀椀渀最 攀渀搀 䤀✀瘀攀 栀愀搀 琀栀攀 眀愀爀洀 昀甀稀稀椀攀猀 愀氀氀 搀愀礀 ഊafterwards.............. :-) ਀ഊ Ldy Diana ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䄀瀀爀 ㈀    ㈀ 㨀㌀㜀㨀㔀㌀ 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: LrdRas at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 琀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀 琀漀欀攀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀愀挀爀漀甀猀猀 愀琀 最琀攀⸀渀攀琀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ<< different people need different levels of strokes, but I find that a ਀ 猀椀渀挀攀爀攀 攀砀瀀爀攀猀猀椀漀渀 漀昀 最爀愀琀椀琀甀搀攀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 洀攀Ⰰ 琀漀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 最漀 愀 氀漀渀最 眀愀礀⸀⸀⸀ ഊ>> ਀ഊTrue...but just to be 'nice' at Schola I passed out a pot stick to each of ਀琀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀椀瀀愀渀琀猀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 愀猀 琀栀攀 ✀洀漀漀搀✀ 栀椀琀 洀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 猀琀椀挀欀猀 栀愀瘀攀 ഊpractical value in the kitchen and a nice momento to take home or add to your ਀挀漀漀欀✀猀 最攀愀爀⸀ഊ ਀䄀琀 琀栀攀 䌀爀漀眀渀 吀漀甀爀渀攀礀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀攀氀瀀攀搀 漀甀琀 愀琀Ⰰ 䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀 最愀瘀攀 攀愀挀栀 洀愀椀渀 瀀氀愀礀攀爀 愀 ഊvery long handled wooded spoon. I still use it at every feast I do and it ਀愀氀眀愀礀猀 戀爀椀渀最猀 昀漀渀搀 洀攀洀漀爀椀攀猀⸀ 伀琀栀攀爀 ✀琀漀欀攀渀✀猀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 猀挀攀渀琀攀搀 猀漀愀瀀Ⰰ 栀攀爀戀 ഊplants, wooden spoons of any size are always great, a small favor to worn on ਀琀栀攀 戀攀氀琀 䤀 愀洀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 攀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀 氀攀最 戀漀渀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀漀挀 眀栀漀 昀攀攀搀攀琀栀 栀攀爀 礀漀甀渀最 ഊwith elephants as a possible source for token material, the possibilities are ਀攀渀搀氀攀猀猀 愀渀搀 渀攀攀搀 渀漀琀 戀攀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀⸀ഊ ਀刀愀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 09:25:28 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䄀渀渀攀ⴀ䴀愀爀椀攀 刀漀甀猀猀攀愀甀 㰀愀挀爀漀甀猀猀 愀琀 最琀攀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Re: SC Kitchen Crew management ਀ഊhiya all from Anne-Marie ਀氀愀猀琀 渀椀最栀琀 眀愀猀 漀甀爀 愀渀渀甀愀氀 䈀愀爀漀渀椀愀氀 䈀愀渀焀甀攀琀⸀ 䘀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 琀椀洀攀 䤀 最漀琀 琀漀 戀攀ഊon the Hall Steward side (taking lessons from our 20+ veteran hall steward). ਀眀漀眀℀ 眀栀愀琀 愀 爀甀猀栀℀℀℀ഊ ਀眀栀愀琀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 眀漀爀欀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䴀愀搀爀漀渀攀 䌀甀氀椀渀愀爀礀 䜀甀椀氀搀㨀ഊ ਀㄀⸀ 瀀爀攀瀀氀愀渀 眀栀愀琀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 愀渀搀 瀀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀渀猀 愀渀搀 猀琀甀昀昀 礀漀甀✀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀漀甀琀ഊthe cooking and serving. If you KNOW that you'll be needing that pot for ਀琀栀攀 瀀愀猀琀攀 攀渀 瀀漀琀 䄀一䐀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 挀漀氀氀椀昀氀漀眀攀爀猀 椀渀 䔀最最 猀愀甀挀攀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀漀 琀攀氀氀ഊthe people using them that they'll need to be used again. Mark it on the ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀 猀栀攀攀琀⸀ഊ ਀㈀⸀ 䔀愀挀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 栀愀猀 椀琀猀 漀眀渀 猀栀攀攀琀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 琀愀瀀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀⸀ 䄀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 挀漀洀攀猀ഊin and if they decide to do a recipe, they take it to their area where ਀琀栀攀礀✀氀氀 戀攀⸀ 伀渀 琀栀愀琀 猀栀攀攀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀 攀砀瀀愀渀搀攀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀洀漀甀渀琀猀Ⰰഊinstructions, what to use to cook in, what to cook on (stove? which one?), ਀愀渀搀 眀栀漀 琀栀攀 ∀攀砀瀀攀爀琀∀ 椀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀渀愀氀 琀愀猀琀攀 漀欀Ⰰ 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ ഊ ਀㌀⸀ 圀攀 愀氀猀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀挀栀攀搀甀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀⸀ 䤀 搀漀 洀椀渀攀 椀渀 愀渀 䈀䤀䜀 攀砀挀攀氀ഊspreadsheet. Map out what dishes go into the oven or onto burners when. ਀䴀愀爀欀 漀甀琀 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 挀氀攀愀渀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 ⠀䤀 最椀瘀攀 甀猀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 眀攀 攀瘀攀渀 猀琀愀爀琀ഊcooking to disinfect counters, rinse pots that have been in storage, etc). ਀䔀愀挀栀 搀椀猀栀 椀猀 椀琀猀 漀眀渀 氀椀渀攀 椀琀攀洀⸀ 䈀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀搀 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 瀀攀攀氀 愀氀氀ഊthose carrots, slice lemons, etc. Be sure you've included PLENTY Of time to ਀戀爀椀渀最 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 戀漀椀氀 ⠀昀椀最甀爀攀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 昀漀爀 愀 戀椀最 瀀漀琀Ⰰ 洀漀爀攀 椀昀 礀漀甀✀爀攀ഊonly got little wimpy coleman stoves. And dont forget that when you put ਀琀栀愀琀 ㈀  氀戀猀 漀昀 挀漀氀氀椀昀氀漀眀攀爀 椀渀Ⰰ 礀漀甀✀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 䴀伀刀䔀 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 戀爀椀渀最 䈀䄀䌀䬀 琀漀 愀ഊboil...) Put on the schedule the job of washing that large skillet that ਀礀漀甀✀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 樀漀戀 漀昀 眀愀猀栀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 琀爀愀礀猀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 挀漀洀攀ഊback if you need to reuse them (its a VERY happy thing if you dont need to ਀搀漀 琀栀椀猀 氀愀猀琀⸀⸀⸀琀栀攀 瀀甀猀栀 漀昀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 琀栀漀猀攀 氀愀猀琀 洀椀渀甀琀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 漀甀琀 眀椀氀氀 琀愀欀攀ഊall the hands you can use!) ਀ഊas people come in the kitchen, tell them to wash their hands and look at ਀琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀挀栀攀搀甀氀攀⸀ 䤀昀 琀栀攀礀✀爀攀 攀渀琀栀甀猀椀愀猀琀椀挀 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 瀀愀爀椀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀椀氀礀ഊskilled, they can see that there's parsley to chop, or greens to wash, etc, ਀愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀漀猀攀 漀渀 攀愀猀椀氀礀⸀ 䤀昀 琀栀攀礀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 攀洀甀氀猀椀漀渀 猀愀甀挀攀Ⰰഊyou can put them on those tricky egg sauces. Have them Cross the task off ਀琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀 ⠀眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 瀀攀渀挀椀氀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀愀瀀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 猀挀栀攀搀甀氀攀⤀ഊwhen its done, and put their initials by the dish they've taken on, so ਀昀漀氀欀猀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀漀 琀漀 愀猀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀㐀⸀ 䴀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 戀漀搀椀攀猀 昀漀爀 搀椀猀栀椀渀最 甀瀀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀甀氀椀渀愀爀礀 最甀椀氀搀 栀攀爀攀ഊprides itself on excellent period food, served HOT. Time things carefully, ਀愀渀搀 愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀甀猀栀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 漀甀琀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 戀漀搀椀攀猀⸀ഊLay out the 18 plates on one table, and dish up. Have your garnish already ਀瀀爀攀瀀瀀攀搀 猀漀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 樀甀猀琀 琀漀猀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀氀攀渀搀甀氀愀 瀀攀琀愀氀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 瀀愀爀猀氀攀礀Ⰰ 漀爀 氀攀洀漀渀ഊzest or whatever onto each plate. when the plates are ALL done, have your ਀猀攀爀瘀攀爀猀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀攀洀 愀眀愀礀℀ഊ ਀㔀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀愀渀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀 眀愀猀 猀琀爀攀猀猀攀搀 氀愀猀琀 渀椀最栀琀 戀攀挀甀愀猀攀 眀攀ഊdidnt get to do this (and it made us lose our minds!) Know EXACTLY how many ਀琀愀戀氀攀猀 礀甀漀甀 最漀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 瀀攀爀 琀愀戀氀攀 䈀䔀䘀伀刀䔀 琀栀攀 戀愀渀甀焀攀琀 猀琀愀爀琀猀⸀ഊThat is going to tell you how many serving dishes you'll need, and how much ਀昀漀漀搀 最漀攀猀 漀渀 攀愀挀栀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 搀椀猀栀⸀ 䘀椀最甀爀攀 漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 戀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 漀渀ഊwhat, and what spoons are going with which bowls BEFORE you need to dish ਀甀瀀⸀圀攀 搀椀搀 椀琀 愀琀 渀漀漀渀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 愀 㜀瀀洀 猀攀爀瘀攀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䴀愀欀攀 猀琀愀挀欀猀Ⰰഊcounting out carefully. Make a list and tape it to the wall at the dishup ਀猀琀愀琀椀漀渀 猀漀 琀栀攀 栀愀氀氀 猀琀攀眀愀爀搀 挀愀渀 琀攀氀氀 愀琀 愀 最氀愀渀挀攀 眀栀椀挀栀 搀椀猀栀 最漀攀猀 椀渀琀漀 眀栀愀琀ഊserving containers, and which spoons/etc goes with which (ie which is goopy ਀愀渀搀 渀攀攀搀猀 戀漀眀氀猀 愀渀搀 氀愀搀氀攀猀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀 挀愀渀 最漀 椀渀 戀愀猀欀攀琀㘀猀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀 挀愀渀 最漀 漀渀 瀀氀愀琀攀猀⸀ഊThink about colors too....dont put that brown stew in a brown bowl if you ਀挀愀渀 愀瘀漀椀搀 椀琀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㘀⸀ 䴀伀猀琀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀愀渀琀氀礀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 栀攀愀搀 挀漀漀欀 䌀䄀一一伀吀 戀攀 琀栀攀 栀愀氀氀 猀琀攀眀愀爀搀⸀ 匀栀攀✀氀氀 戀攀ഊtoo busy fixing disasters, putting the final touch on the food, and tasting ਀攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 昀漀爀 昀椀渀愀氀 焀甀愀氀椀琀礀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 琀栀愀琀 猀栀攀 眀漀渀琀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 栀愀渀搀氀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀ഊquestions and the dishing up, much less garnish. Ideally, you have one ਀瀀攀爀猀漀渀 愀猀 栀愀氀氀 猀琀攀眀愀爀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 挀爀攀眀 漀昀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀爀攀攀 漀爀 昀漀甀爀 ⠀眀椀琀栀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀ഊtwo people who know what's going on) for dishing up etc, and if you can ਀栀愀瘀攀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 昀漀爀 吀攀愀洀 䜀愀爀渀椀猀栀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀✀猀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀⸀ ഊ ਀㜀⸀ 吀爀礀 琀漀 氀椀渀攀 甀瀀 搀椀猀栀眀愀猀栀攀爀猀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀椀攀洀⸀ 䜀攀琀 猀漀洀攀 昀漀爀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀愀礀ഊ(we find that a crew of two or so suffices) as well as after the banquet ਀⠀琀栀愀琀✀猀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 氀漀琀猀 洀漀爀攀℀⤀⸀ 䴀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀礀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀✀氀氀 戀攀ഊdoing dishes, and that you appreicate them very very very much! its a ਀最爀甀戀戀礀 樀漀戀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 猀漀洀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 最攀琀 椀渀琀漀 椀琀⸀ 圀攀 栀愀搀 愀 䌀漀甀渀琀攀猀猀ഊPelican/Laurel, a double peer from about 1500 miles away, the sargentry and ਀栀愀渀搀昀甀氀 漀昀 攀渀琀栀甀猀愀猀琀椀挀 爀攀挀爀甀椀琀猀 瀀椀琀挀栀 椀渀 愀琀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 愀渀搀 椀琀 洀愀搀攀 愀 眀漀爀氀搀 漀昀ഊdifference to a bunch of very tired cooks. Enlist your queen or baroness to ਀爀攀挀爀甀椀琀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀⸀⸀⸀琀栀攀礀 漀昀琀攀渀 攀渀樀漀礀 愀渀 攀砀挀甀猀攀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 猀栀漀眀ഊoff how helpful they can be :). ਀ഊhope this helps! ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀ䄀一渀攀ⴀ䴀愀爀椀攀Ⰰ 眀栀漀✀猀 戀攀攀渀 栀攀愀搀 挀漀漀欀 洀愀渀礀 洀愀渀礀 琀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀猀 栀漀瀀椀渀最 琀漀 氀攀愀爀渀ഊhow to be a hall steward now :) ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 䨀甀渀 ㈀    ㈀㄀㨀㌀㤀㨀 ㌀ 䜀䴀吀ഊFrom: "Bonne of Traquair" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀ഊ ਀㸀䤀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 琀漀礀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 搀漀椀渀最 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀眀椀挀攀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀栀攀猀Ⰰ 栀愀氀昀 琀栀攀ഊ>portions. i figure that gives room to experiment and still feed ਀㸀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀ⴀⴀ甀渀氀攀猀猀 琀栀攀礀✀爀攀 昀椀渀椀挀欀礀⸀  䤀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 挀愀猀攀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 挀愀爀攀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀䴀漀爀最愀渀愀ഊ ਀䤀 搀漀 攀瘀攀爀礀 琀栀椀渀最 䤀 挀愀渀 琀漀 挀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 猀椀稀攀猀 搀漀眀渀 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀椀氀氀 ഊhave room for all 16 to 20 items. For pies I use 8 inch pie tins instead of ਀㤀 椀渀挀栀⸀  䘀漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 挀漀漀欀攀搀 椀渀 愀 ✀琀愀戀氀攀 猀椀稀攀搀✀ ഊcontainer, a local shop carries 3 x 4 inch by 2 inch deep disposable pans. ਀䬀椀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀 猀椀稀攀 昀漀爀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 猀椀渀最氀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 漀昀 氀愀猀愀最渀愀Ⰰ 椀琀 猀漀甀渀搀猀 ഊsmall, but when there are 6 to 8 items per course, plus bread, this works ਀漀甀琀⸀  䤀 戀甀礀 猀洀愀氀氀椀猀栀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀猀 漀爀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 瀀愀爀琀猀Ⰰ 䤀 猀攀渀搀 漀甀琀 猀氀椀挀攀猀 漀昀 洀攀愀琀 ഊwhen possible, rather than a full bird or roast per table of eight since ਀洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 栀愀氀昀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 挀漀洀攀猀 戀愀挀欀⸀  䤀 眀椀猀栀 琀栀攀 戀愀爀漀渀礀 栀愀搀渀✀琀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀搀 ഊstandard, long handled serving utensils. They are awkward at the tables ਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 猀漀 氀漀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀挀漀漀瀀 猀椀稀攀 椀猀 琀漀漀 戀椀最⸀  䰀愀猀琀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 䤀 ഊpurchased silver and gold plastic teaspoons and sent them out with some ਀椀琀攀洀猀⸀  䄀氀猀漀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 甀最氀礀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 猀瀀漀漀渀 愀渀搀 昀漀爀欀 猀攀琀猀⸀  唀最氀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 ഊthe handles and bowls were smaller and better suited to the task. ਀ഊBonne ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 䨀甀渀 ㈀    ㄀㜀㨀㔀㈀㨀㌀㌀ 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: allilyn at juno.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 ഊ ਀㸀㸀  嘀攀爀礀 ഊimportant, what is the kitchen like? You really need to plan the meal ਀愀爀漀甀渀搀 ഊthe kitchen you're going to use, so you can deal with the numbers of ਀戀甀爀渀攀爀猀Ⰰ ഊoven space, etc. Either that, or come up with a tentative menu and be ਀瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 昀氀攀砀椀戀氀攀 椀昀 礀漀甀 昀椀渀搀 漀甀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀渀✀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 漀瘀攀渀ഊspace to ਀猀愀礀Ⰰ 爀漀愀猀琀 戀攀攀昀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀愀欀攀 瀀椀攀猀⸀㰀㰀ഊ ਀䈀爀愀渀最眀愀礀渀愀 椀猀 猀漀 爀椀最栀琀℀  䈀甀礀 礀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀 愀渀 漀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀爀洀漀洀攀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 漀渀攀 漀昀ഊthose instant thermometers to stick in food. post me privately for a ਀最漀漀搀Ⰰ 爀攀愀猀漀渀愀戀氀礀 瀀爀椀挀攀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀⸀  ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀爀洀漀洀攀琀攀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀椀琀攀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀栀攀挀欀 攀愀挀栀 漀瘀攀渀ⴀⴀ眀椀琀栀ഊALL the ovens turned on at the same time! ਀ 䴀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 琀漀 琀甀爀渀 漀渀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀猀Ⰰ 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 椀昀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀ഊmaster switch to turn on for the day. ਀圀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 昀甀猀攀 戀漀砀㼀  ഊWhat size fuses should you have an extra one or two? ਀吀爀礀 琀漀 琀攀猀琀 挀氀漀猀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ 琀漀漀⸀  伀渀攀 漀昀 漀甀爀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 猀椀琀攀猀 栀愀搀 椀琀猀ഊoven calibration go wonky between 2 events--lotsa trouble. ਀ഊCheck to see if each burner works, and all work at the same time--this is ਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀 最愀猀 昀氀漀眀 漀爀 昀甀猀攀 戀氀漀眀椀渀最⸀   ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 愀 琀愀瀀攀 洀攀愀猀甀爀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 搀漀 愀 猀欀攀琀挀栀攀搀 氀愀礀ⴀ漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀Ⰰ 猀椀稀攀 漀昀ഊcounters, any tables and chairs, fans, etc. space between burners, etc. ਀吀攀猀琀 琀栀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀ 倀氀愀渀 愀栀攀愀搀 眀栀攀爀攀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 猀琀愀猀栀 礀漀甀爀 最攀愀爀Ⰰ 眀栀攀爀攀 眀漀爀欀 漀渀 攀愀挀栀 搀椀猀栀Ⰰ 挀愀渀ഊyou tape, prop or otherwise post the recipe above that workspace? ਀ ഊWhere will your serving table be for the servers to pick up the bowls and ਀瀀氀愀琀琀攀爀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀愀渀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 漀渀攀 昀漀爀 爀攀琀甀爀渀攀搀 搀椀爀琀礀 瀀氀愀琀琀攀爀猀㼀  ഊ ਀䤀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀 挀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀 搀椀猀栀眀愀猀栀攀爀㼀  䐀漀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 琀漀 漀瀀攀爀愀琀攀 椀琀㼀  嘀攀爀礀ഊfew modern sites come equipt with lepers outside to devour the trenchers. ਀ 䤀昀 渀漀 搀椀猀栀眀愀猀栀攀爀Ⰰ 椀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 猀椀渀欀 琀漀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 漀渀氀礀 昀漀爀 搀椀猀栀⼀瀀漀琀ഊwashing, and has your autocrat gotten you a clean-up crew? During the ਀搀愀礀Ⰰ 琀漀漀㼀  䤀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀 瀀氀愀挀攀 昀漀爀 搀椀渀攀爀猀 琀漀 眀愀猀栀 琀栀攀椀爀 最攀愀爀㼀  䌀愀渀 礀漀甀 猀攀琀ഊup a clean-up station after feast? NOT in the kitchen? ਀ഊAre there sufficient garbage cans? What size bags must you buy? Where ਀椀猀 琀栀攀 搀甀洀瀀猀琀攀爀㼀ഊ ਀䰀椀猀琀 琀栀攀 愀瀀瀀氀椀愀渀挀攀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀ഊhandy--deep well soup makers, electric slicers, huge mega-mixers, etc. ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 猀攀攀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 瀀漀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀渀猀Ⰰ 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀愀氀氀礀 愀猀欀 椀昀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀洀㬀ഊthey might be locked away when your event occurs. ਀ഊWalk thru the feast prep and see if you've got things set in your mind. ਀倀爀攀瀀愀爀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 攀猀猀攀渀琀椀愀氀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 猀漀 洀愀渀礀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀ഊoverlooked or go wrong on the day. ਀ഊWhen this is all done, it's a real confidence booster. ਀ഊAllison, allilyn at juno.com ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㌀  䄀甀最 ㈀    ㄀㜀㨀㈀㐀㨀㔀㘀 ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Huette von Ahrens ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀椀渀愀氀氀礀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 挀漀漀欀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 瀀攀爀椀漀搀℀℀℀ഊ ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀⴀ 伀氀眀攀渀 琀栀攀 伀搀搀 㰀漀氀眀攀渀琀栀攀漀搀搀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> Begin with how many mouths will be in attendence at ਀㸀 琀栀椀猀 搀椀渀渀攀爀⸀  吀栀愀琀 椀猀 ഊ> always the best place to begin. From there, figure ਀㸀 礀漀甀爀 戀甀搀最攀琀 ⠀洀愀砀⤀ 愀渀搀 ഊ> then begin to flesh in the feast. ਀㸀 漀氀眀攀渀ഊ ਀䜀攀攀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀 琀栀攀 漀瀀瀀漀猀椀琀攀⸀  䤀 昀椀最甀爀攀 漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 䤀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀ഊmake, then I figure out how much it will cost to make ਀攀愀挀栀 搀椀猀栀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀漀渀猀ഊdon't come until very late, I figure out how many I ਀眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 昀攀攀搀 嬀愀渀搀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 礀漀甀爀 昀爀攀攀戀椀攀猀Ⰰഊusually your head table, your cooks, servers and clean ਀甀瀀 挀爀攀眀崀⸀  夀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀 攀砀琀爀愀瀀漀氀愀琀攀 愀 戀椀琀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀ഊhall will only hold so many people. But my budget is ਀渀攀瘀攀爀 昀椀渀愀氀 甀渀琀椀氀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 爀攀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀漀渀猀ഊand guests there will be. And, yes, I usually add in ਀愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 攀砀琀爀愀 洀攀愀氀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀氀椀渀最 爀漀礀愀氀猀ഊwho don't tell you they are coming to visit your ਀欀椀渀最搀漀洀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀礀 猀栀漀眀 甀瀀 愀琀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀⸀  䈀甀琀 䤀 猀琀愀爀琀ഊwith the food itself first. In my humble opinion, you ਀眀椀氀氀 漀渀氀礀 瀀甀琀 礀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀 漀瘀攀爀 戀甀搀最攀琀 漀爀 猀琀爀甀最最氀攀 琀漀漀ഊmuch to keep within budget if you start with the ਀瀀漀琀攀渀琀椀愀氀 搀椀渀攀爀猀 昀椀爀猀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 眀漀爀欀 漀渀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀⸀  䤀ഊhave never had to struggle with my budgets. I have ਀愀氀眀愀礀猀 挀漀洀攀 椀渀 甀渀搀攀爀 戀甀搀最攀琀⸀ഊ ਀䠀甀攀琀琀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:18:25 GMT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 攀欀漀漀最氀攀爀 愀琀 挀栀攀猀愀瀀攀愀欀攀⸀渀攀琀ഊSubject: RE: SC - Bad Feasts--Philosophically Speaking ਀ഊ> Even if you have tested them earlier in the week, test them again when you ਀㸀 挀漀洀攀 漀渀 猀椀琀攀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䤀昀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀猀Ⰰ 戀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀 漀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀爀洀漀洀攀琀攀爀 昀漀爀 攀愀挀栀Ⰰ 猀漀 礀漀甀ഊ> can set them close to the appropriate temperature. ਀㸀 ഊ> Even that may not be enough. My biggest fiasco occurred when I had four ਀㸀 漀瘀攀渀猀 昀愀椀氀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 漀昀 ㈀ 栀漀甀爀猀 愀渀搀 眀愀猀 甀渀愀戀氀攀 琀漀 昀椀渀椀猀栀 琀栀攀 猀攀挀漀渀搀ഊ> course. ਀㸀 ഊ> Bear ਀ഊAlso, oddly enough, if the stoves/ovens are gas-fired, make sure that the ਀瀀爀漀瀀愀渀攀 琀愀渀欀猀 ⠀椀昀 琀栀攀礀 甀猀攀 猀甀挀栀⤀ 愀爀攀 昀甀氀氀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 氀愀猀琀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 ഊevent...same/same for hot water heaters. I've been involved in a couple of ਀昀攀愀猀琀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀瘀攀猀 搀椀攀搀 昀漀爀 眀愀渀琀 漀昀 最愀猀⸀  ഊ ਀䄀氀猀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀 栀攀愀琀攀爀 眀漀爀欀猀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀氀礀⸀⸀⸀椀琀✀猀 愀 爀攀愀氀 瀀愀椀渀 琀漀 ഊhave to heat water on the stove! ਀ഊKiri ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㐀 伀挀琀 ㈀    ㄀㠀㨀㈀ 㨀㌀㠀 ⴀ 㜀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 圀栀攀渀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 ⸀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䄀琀 ㈀㨀   倀䴀 ⴀ 㘀   ㄀ ⼀㈀㐀⼀  Ⰰ 䔀搀最愀爀Ⰰ 吀攀爀爀礀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>Double check to make sure everyone gets each course served. I was at a ਀㸀昀攀愀猀琀 漀渀挀攀 眀栀攀爀攀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 琀愀戀氀攀 眀愀猀 洀椀猀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 挀漀甀爀猀攀⸀  䄀瀀瀀漀椀渀琀 愀ഊ>"hall steward" to organize the servers. Be sure to have a couple dedicated ਀㸀琀漀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 琀栀攀 ∀栀椀最栀 琀愀戀氀攀∀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 䤀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 搀漀 椀猀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 椀渀 挀栀愀爀最攀 漀昀 ഊredistribution. That means wandering around looking for a tables that ਀栀愀猀 漀渀氀礀 攀愀琀攀渀 栀愀氀昀 椀琀猀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 漀昀 堀 愀渀搀 漀戀瘀椀漀甀猀氀礀 椀猀渀✀琀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 ഊhave any more, and moving the platter to another table that has eaten ਀愀氀氀 漀昀 椀琀猀 堀 愀渀搀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀Ⰰ 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 猀漀洀攀 洀漀爀攀⸀ 吀栀愀琀 渀漀琀 漀渀氀礀 ഊresults in less wastage, it also makes people feel as though you are ਀瀀愀礀椀渀最 愀琀琀攀渀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀椀爀 渀攀攀搀猀⸀ഊ- -- ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀 䘀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀ഊddfr at best.com ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀搀愀瘀椀搀搀昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀⸀挀漀洀⼀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:27:12 PDT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䈀漀渀渀攀 漀昀 吀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀∀ 㰀漀昀琀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - When planning a feast .... ਀ഊMost of my advice is in the organizing rather than the recipe choosing and ਀挀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀䠀愀瘀攀 愀 挀漀ⴀ挀漀漀欀㨀ഊFor me, having a co-cook has been essential. Beforehand, I bounce ideas off ਀栀攀爀Ⰰ 搀椀瘀椀搀攀 甀瀀 琀栀攀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀 眀漀爀欀Ⰰ 最攀琀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 最攀琀 瀀爀漀漀昀ⴀ爀攀愀搀椀渀最 ഊdone, have an extra eye looking for bargains and generally feel she could ਀琀愀欀攀 漀瘀攀爀 椀昀 渀攀攀搀 戀攀⸀  伀渀ⴀ猀椀琀攀Ⰰ 猀栀攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀 琀漀 渀愀最 洀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀 戀爀攀愀欀⸀  䄀琀 ഊour last feast she elected herself cheif of sanitation police, keeping tabs ਀漀渀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀✀猀 栀愀渀搀猀 ⠀眀愀猀栀攀搀 漀爀 渀漀琀⤀Ⰰ 栀愀椀爀 ⠀挀漀渀琀愀椀渀攀搀 椀昀 氀漀渀最⤀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 搀椀猀栀眀愀琀攀爀 ഊ(we had hot water problems, she made sure people stopped washing when out of ਀栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀⤀Ⰰ 搀椀猀栀琀漀眀攀氀猀 ⠀搀爀礀 眀椀琀栀 挀氀攀愀渀 琀漀眀攀氀猀 渀漀琀 眀椀琀栀 搀愀洀瀀 琀漀眀攀氀猀⤀ 愀渀搀 ഊother such issues. ਀ഊRecipes: ਀䤀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 最椀瘀攀 挀漀瀀椀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀栀漀猀攀 礀漀甀 䬀一伀圀 ഊwill be helping in the kitchen. They probably won't study it before hand, ਀戀甀琀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 最椀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀攀 挀栀愀渀挀攀⸀ 䌀漀瀀椀攀猀 愀氀猀漀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀Ⰰ ഊreservationist and other members of the sponsoring group. That many more ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 愀渀猀眀攀爀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀✀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 洀攀渀甀 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀✀猀 ഊin the food. Give a couple copies to your hall steward so they might share ਀眀椀琀栀 愀渀礀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀猀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀爀攀ⴀ挀漀洀洀椀琀洀攀渀琀猀 昀爀漀洀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀㨀 倀爀椀渀琀 漀渀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 瀀攀爀 瀀愀最攀⸀ 䤀渀 挀愀猀攀 礀漀甀爀 栀攀氀瀀 氀攀昀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 ഊreading glasses at home, use the largest type size possible without making ਀琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 氀漀渀最攀爀 琀栀愀渀 戀漀琀栀 猀椀搀攀猀 漀昀 漀渀攀 瀀愀最攀⸀  倀甀琀 攀愀挀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 椀渀 愀 挀氀攀愀爀 ഊpage protector so your help doesn't have to worry about where they lay it ਀搀漀眀渀⸀ 䠀愀瘀攀 愀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 瀀愀最攀ⴀ瀀爀漀琀攀挀琀漀爀攀搀 猀攀琀 椀渀 愀 戀椀渀搀攀爀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 甀猀攀 漀爀 椀渀 挀愀猀攀 ഊsomething in the other set gets damaged or lost. ਀ഊEquipment: ਀䰀愀戀攀氀Ⰰ 氀愀戀攀氀Ⰰ 氀愀戀攀氀℀  ⠀䠀攀爀攀✀猀 洀礀 洀攀琀栀漀搀⤀ഊBuy two different colored brand new sharpie markers and a roll of masking ਀琀愀瀀攀⸀  唀猀椀渀最 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀愀爀欀攀爀猀Ⰰ 愀猀 礀漀甀 瀀愀挀欀Ⰰ 眀爀椀琀攀 礀漀甀爀 渀愀洀攀 漀渀 开攀瘀攀爀礀开 ഊitem from your own home that is going to the site. Label every part of ਀椀琀攀洀猀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀漀爀 愀渀搀 猀氀漀眀 挀漀漀欀攀爀 愀渀搀 氀愀戀攀氀 愀渀礀 戀漀砀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 ഊthings are packed in. My girls tease because every spoon, knife, appliance, ਀栀愀渀搀琀漀漀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 猀愀氀琀 猀栀愀欀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 栀漀渀攀礀 戀漀琀琀氀攀Ⰰ 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 猀琀漀爀愀最攀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀攀爀猀Ⰰ ഊplatters, pans, you name it in our kitchen has a green "KLM", but I haven't ਀氀漀猀琀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 礀攀琀 琀漀 匀䌀䄀 漀爀 倀吀䄀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䄀琀 琀栀攀 猀椀琀攀Ⰰ  瀀甀琀 琀栀攀 爀漀氀氀 漀昀 琀愀瀀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 开漀琀栀攀爀开 洀愀爀欀攀爀 渀攀愀爀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀⸀  ഊDirect everyone who is loaning equipment and tools to you to label same with ਀琀栀椀猀 漀琀栀攀爀 洀愀爀欀攀爀⸀ ⠀䨀漀戀 昀漀爀 欀椀搀 漀氀搀 攀渀漀最栀 琀漀 眀爀椀琀攀㨀 猀琀漀瀀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀愀猀欀猀 愀渀搀 搀漀 ഊthis for people who must dump their stuff and go.) After clean up, ਀甀渀氀愀戀攀氀攀搀 猀琀甀昀昀 瘀猀 礀漀甀爀 猀琀甀昀昀 瘀猀 氀漀愀渀攀搀 猀琀甀昀昀 椀猀 攀愀猀椀氀礀 猀漀爀琀攀搀 漀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 挀愀渀渀漀琀 栀愀瘀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 搀椀猀栀琀漀眀攀氀猀⸀  䜀漀 漀爀 猀攀渀搀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀漀 猀甀瀀瀀氀礀 ഊstore to get several bags of 100 percent cotton 'rags'. These are perfectly ਀愀搀攀焀甀愀琀攀 昀漀爀 搀爀礀椀渀最 搀椀猀栀攀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀甀渀琀攀爀猀Ⰰ 甀猀椀渀最 愀猀 猀椀搀攀 琀漀眀攀氀猀Ⰰ 椀洀瀀爀漀洀瀀琀甀 ഊaprons tucked into belts. They are cheap enough that if any go missing, you ਀眀漀渀✀琀 挀愀爀攀⸀  䈀甀琀 搀漀 攀猀琀愀戀氀椀猀栀 愀 瀀氀愀挀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 挀氀攀愀渀 甀瀀 挀爀攀眀 琀漀 搀甀洀瀀 琀栀攀洀 猀漀 ഊsomeone can take them home to wash them for next time. A plastic garbage ਀戀愀最 椀猀 渀漀琀 愀 最漀漀搀 瀀氀愀挀攀 琀漀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 攀瘀攀渀 琀栀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 礀攀猀Ⰰ 椀琀 搀椀搀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 ഊcardboard box from getting soggy. ਀ഊNo matter how many of these inexpensive towels you buy, the towel supply ਀眀椀氀氀 戀攀 琀漀漀 猀洀愀氀氀⸀ 吀漀 最攀琀 洀漀爀攀 甀猀攀 漀甀琀 漀昀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 眀椀琀栀 漀甀琀 猀攀爀椀漀甀猀氀礀 ഊcompromising sanitation: Set up a clothes line if you have a space. At ਀瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 琀椀洀攀猀 眀栀攀渀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 眀栀攀渀 搀椀猀栀眀愀猀栀椀渀最 椀猀  挀愀甀最栀琀 甀瀀Ⰰ 琀愀欀攀 愀氀氀 ഊthe wet towels and dump them in hot soapy water. Wring them out and dump ਀琀栀攀洀 椀渀 栀漀琀 戀氀攀愀挀栀礀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 圀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀洀 漀甀琀 愀渀搀 栀愀渀最 琀漀 搀爀礀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 搀爀礀Ⰰ 甀猀攀 ഊthem for purposes other than drying dishes, such as wiping up spills and ਀洀攀猀猀攀猀 漀爀 昀漀爀 搀爀礀椀渀最 栀愀渀搀猀⸀ 刀攀猀攀爀瘀攀 挀氀攀愀渀Ⰰ 甀渀甀猀攀搀 琀漀眀攀氀猀 昀漀爀 搀椀猀栀 搀爀礀椀渀最⸀  ഊ(Toward the end, pots and pans and oven trays were dried with these used ਀琀漀眀攀氀猀⸀  䈀甀琀 洀礀 挀漀ⴀ挀漀漀欀 眀愀猀 最漀渀攀 戀礀 琀栀攀渀 猀漀 猀栀攀 挀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 最攀琀 搀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀攀搀⸀⤀ഊ ਀匀攀爀瘀椀渀最 搀椀猀栀攀猀㨀ഊPlan for serving dishes when planning the feast. You may have to buy or ਀戀漀爀爀漀眀 戀漀眀氀猀 愀渀搀 瀀氀愀琀琀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 甀琀攀渀猀椀氀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀漀漀渀攀爀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀椀猀 ഊthe better. Make a list (large type again) of what recipe is served in what ਀搀椀猀栀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 眀栀愀琀 甀琀攀渀猀椀氀 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀 琀爀椀洀洀椀渀最猀⸀  匀攀攀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀爀 栀攀愀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀 栀愀猀 ഊthis list and that you bring a copy to site. ਀伀渀ⴀ猀椀琀攀㨀 琀栀攀 渀椀最栀琀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 漀爀 攀愀爀氀礀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 漀昀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 漀爀 礀漀甀爀 栀攀愀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀爀  ഊascertain that all the serving dishes are actually there, and are washed. ਀倀甀琀 椀渀 愀 猀瀀漀琀 琀栀攀礀 眀漀渀✀琀 戀攀 爀攀ⴀ搀椀爀琀椀攀搀⸀ 倀甀琀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀 渀攀愀爀 眀栀攀爀攀 瀀氀愀琀椀渀最 眀椀氀氀 ഊbe happening. ਀ഊFeeding the cooks: ਀䐀漀 渀漀琀 昀漀爀最攀琀 戀爀攀愀欀昀愀猀琀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀 愀渀搀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 挀漀洀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 ഊearly. I've been lucky to have a friend that brings bagels and cream cheese ਀昀漀爀 洀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 眀愀猀 愀氀猀漀 氀甀挀欀礀 琀栀愀琀 愀 眀漀洀愀渀 椀渀 漀甀爀 戀愀爀漀渀礀 猀愀眀 椀琀 愀猀 栀攀爀 搀甀琀礀 琀漀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 ഊlunch to the cooks. She showed up at most events with a pot of lentil stew, ਀愀渀搀 猀琀愀挀欀 漀昀 搀椀猀瀀漀猀愀戀氀攀 戀漀眀氀猀 愀渀搀 猀瀀漀漀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 猀渀愀挀欀猀 眀漀爀琀栀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀⸀  䤀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 栀愀瘀攀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 ㌀ 搀漀稀攀渀 最攀渀攀爀漀甀猀氀礀 ഊsized brownies, and some ginger or shortbread cookies. (The girls bake them ਀昀漀爀 洀攀Ⰰ 䤀✀搀 栀愀瘀攀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 搀漀稀攀渀 椀昀 䤀 搀椀搀 椀琀 洀礀猀攀氀昀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀✀猀 眀漀爀琀栀 ഊit.) These are given to short term help as a parting gift. Longer term help ਀猀攀爀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 眀愀渀琀⸀  䬀攀攀瀀 愀 猀琀愀猀栀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 愀昀琀攀爀 昀攀愀猀琀 ഊdishwashing supervisor to share out when that job is done. ਀ഊBonne ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㌀  伀挀琀 ㈀     㜀㨀㄀㘀㨀㌀㈀ ⴀ 㘀  ഊFrom: "Decker, Terry D." ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䈀愀搀 䘀攀愀猀琀猀ⴀⴀ倀栀椀氀漀猀漀瀀栀椀挀愀氀氀礀 匀瀀攀愀欀椀渀最ഊ ਀㸀 䤀 愀猀猀甀洀攀 栀攀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀漀渀猀甀氀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 琀栀攀洀攀 愀渀搀 ഊ> time period of the event before you come up with a proposed menu. Please ਀㸀 猀愀礀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 琀爀甀攀 䈀攀愀爀⸀  䤀琀 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 猀琀愀琀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 洀椀猀氀攀愀搀椀渀最 琀漀 ഊ> new, future, feast planners. ਀㸀 ഊ> Olwen ਀ഊThemes, time periods, etc. should be determined before requesting bids. The ਀挀漀漀欀 洀甀猀琀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 琀栀攀 樀漀戀 椀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀椀爀 挀愀瀀愀戀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 氀愀琀攀猀琀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 眀愀猀 渀攀最漀琀椀愀琀攀搀 戀礀 愀猀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 䈀愀爀漀渀攀猀猀Ⰰ ∀眀栀愀琀 搀漀 礀漀甀ഊwant?" "Elizabethan." I then went on to make a partial menu and a more ਀搀攀琀愀椀氀攀搀 愀渀愀氀礀猀椀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 戀椀搀⸀  䘀漀爀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 爀攀愀猀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀ഊplanning was delayed and I got the bid in fairly late in the game, while I ਀眀愀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 挀栀愀猀椀渀最 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ⠀渀漀琀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 䤀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 昀漀爀 椀渀攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀搀 挀漀漀欀猀ഊor autocrats). ਀ഊIn my case, the bid is usually detailed, so that everyone knows what I am ਀瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 愀渀搀 挀愀渀 最愀琀栀攀爀 猀漀洀攀 椀搀攀愀 愀戀漀甀琀 栀漀眀 䤀 椀渀琀攀渀搀 琀漀 瀀爀漀挀攀攀搀⸀  伀渀挀攀 琀栀攀ഊbid is accepted, I have command of the feast and the feast hall and ਀猀琀爀甀挀琀甀爀攀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 瀀攀爀昀漀爀洀愀渀挀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀洀攀渀琀猀 攀猀琀愀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀ഊbid. ਀ഊDo I listen to what others have to say? Yes. I don't have a monopoly on ਀最漀漀搀 椀搀攀愀猀⸀  䐀漀 䤀 眀漀爀欀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀猀㼀  夀攀猀⸀  䄀 最漀漀搀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀 椀猀 愀ഊfacilitator and the easiest way to keep them aware of what is happening with ਀琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀猀 琀漀 甀猀攀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀椀爀 猀琀愀昀昀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 愀渀搀 攀砀攀挀甀琀椀漀渀 漀昀ഊthe various aspects of the feast. ਀ഊBear ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀  一漀瘀 ㈀    ㄀㈀㨀㄀㌀㨀㈀㐀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Gaylin J. Walli" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀䔀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 瀀漀爀琀椀漀渀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 愀渀搀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最ഊ ਀伀氀眀攀渀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>but you will find that there will always be lots of leftovers and toss outs. ਀ഊAlways? Hmmm. Sometimes not much. In all honesty when I cooked this past ਀猀瀀爀椀渀最Ⰰ 眀攀 最愀甀最攀搀 椀琀 猀漀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 琀栀椀渀最 眀攀 栀愀搀 琀漀 琀栀爀漀眀 愀眀愀礀ഊwas a lot of cold pasta. I took home three pies, a gallon ziploc of gourmet ਀挀栀攀攀猀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 漀渀椀漀渀猀⸀ 一漀琀 戀愀搀 昀漀爀 琀眀漀 昀攀愀猀琀猀Ⰰ 愀戀漀瘀攀 愀渀搀 戀攀氀漀眀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀ഊabout 210 people overall. Sometimes I plan for extra food based on my ਀搀椀猀栀 猀椀稀攀 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀 洀攀 愀渀搀 洀礀 攀砀瀀攀搀椀琀漀爀 琀栀椀渀欀 眀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊdish. In the case of the pasta, we knew the best way to serve one dish ਀眀愀猀 琀漀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀猀攀 氀漀瘀攀氀礀 眀栀椀琀攀 琀爀愀礀猀 眀攀 栀愀搀⸀ 倀愀猀琀愀 眀愀猀 猀攀琀 琀漀 戀攀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊdishes and also a bed for the veal skewers (Platina's Meat the Roman Way, ਀昀爀漀洀 䴀椀氀栀愀洀⤀ ⸀⸀⸀⸀ 攀砀挀攀瀀琀 昀漀爀 漀渀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀倀爀攀猀猀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 琀爀愀礀猀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀攀猀攀 爀愀琀栀攀爀 渀椀挀攀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 戀甀琀 眀栀漀氀氀礀ഊinappropriate Thanksgiving turkey scenes of early Americana. Those ਀眀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 琀爀愀礀猀 眀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 甀猀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 猀漀 眀攀 栀愀搀 琀漀 昀椀最甀爀攀 漀甀琀ഊa way to come up with a covering for the turkeys. We could have used ਀瀀愀瀀攀爀 漀爀 挀氀漀琀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀渀 愀挀琀甀愀氀椀琀礀 眀攀✀搀 瀀氀愀渀渀攀搀 琀漀 甀猀攀 愀 戀攀搀 漀昀 最爀攀攀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀䈀甀琀 眀栀攀渀 猀栀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 最爀攀攀渀猀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 愀 猀椀渀最氀攀 猀琀漀爀攀 栀愀搀 最漀漀搀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊones. They were all beyond the "refreshable" stage. So we improvised ਀漀渀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 漀昀⸀ 䤀 栀愀搀 愀 洀攀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 洀礀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 猀琀愀昀昀 椀渀 挀栀愀爀最攀 漀昀 瀀愀猀琀愀⸀ഊThat was his only job. And I set him to figuring out how much we'd need ਀琀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 搀愀爀渀攀搀 琀甀爀欀攀礀猀⸀ 圀攀 攀渀搀攀搀 甀瀀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 昀愀爀 洀漀爀攀 瀀愀猀琀愀 琀栀愀渀ഊwe originally planned to serve in that course, but at least those darned ਀琀甀爀欀攀礀✀猀 猀琀愀礀攀搀 栀椀搀搀攀渀⸀ 㨀⤀ഊ ਀䤀愀猀洀椀渀ഊ ਀䤀愀猀洀椀渀 搀攀 䌀漀爀搀漀戀愀Ⰰ 最眀愀氀氀椀 愀琀 瀀琀挀⸀挀漀洀 漀爀 椀愀猀洀椀渀 愀琀 栀漀洀攀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:15:43 EST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䰀愀搀礀倀䐀䌀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Re: Feast review wanted ਀ഊkareno at lewistown.net writes: ਀㸀㸀㸀     匀漀Ⰰ  䌀漀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ   琀攀氀氀 甀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀℀℀  眀栀愀琀 搀椀搀 礀漀甀 搀漀 戀攀猀琀㼀ഊ>> what was not-so-good? ਀㸀㸀 圀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 礀漀甀 搀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀㼀  琀攀氀氀 甀猀 琀栀攀 洀攀渀甀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀甀挀栀 ⸀ ⸀ ⸀ ⸀ഊ>> ਀㸀㸀     夀攀猀Ⰰ  䤀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ  戀甀琀 䤀✀氀氀 氀攀琀 礀漀甀 猀琀愀爀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀椀渀最ഊ>> ਀㸀㸀     䌀愀漀椀渀琀椀愀爀渀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 䤀 愀洀 猀琀椀氀氀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 ∀瀀漀猀琀ⴀ洀漀爀琀攀洀∀ 愀渀搀 眀椀氀氀 瀀漀猀琀 洀漀爀攀 漀渀 椀琀 氀愀琀攀爀ഊif you all really want to hear it. But can pass along a few tidbits now for ਀昀甀琀甀爀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 猀琀攀眀愀爀搀猀⸀ഊ ਀㄀⸀  圀愀氀欀ⴀ椀渀 刀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀漀爀猀 愀爀攀 欀攀瀀琀 愀琀 愀 氀漀眀攀爀 琀攀洀瀀 琀栀愀渀 栀漀甀猀攀栀漀氀搀 琀礀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀ഊrequire extra time for defrosting frozen items. Esp. when you are defrosting ਀㈀  昀甀氀氀 猀椀稀攀搀 挀愀瀀漀渀猀⸀  吀栀椀猀 漀渀攀 戀椀琀 漀昀 氀愀挀欀椀渀最 欀渀漀眀氀攀搀最攀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 戀攀栀椀渀搀 愀渀搀 椀猀 愀 洀椀猀琀愀欀攀 䤀 眀椀氀氀 渀漀琀 爀攀瀀攀愀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀甀琀甀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀㈀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 猀攀爀瘀攀 搀攀攀瀀 昀爀椀攀搀 昀爀椀琀琀攀爀猀Ⰰ 攀椀琀栀攀爀 漀渀氀礀 搀漀 漀渀攀 琀礀瀀攀 漀爀 猀琀愀爀琀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀洀 ㈀ 栀漀甀爀猀 愀栀攀愀搀 漀昀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 愀 眀愀爀洀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀㌀⸀  䠀愀瘀攀 戀愀挀欀ⴀ甀瀀猀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 戀愀挀欀ⴀ甀瀀猀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 戀愀挀欀ⴀ甀瀀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 洀愀樀漀爀 樀漀戀猀⸀ഊEven the most reliable person in the world can be prevented from attending ਀琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀 戀礀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 氀椀欀攀 愀 挀愀爀 愀挀挀椀搀攀渀琀 ⠀洀礀 瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀 挀氀攀愀渀 甀瀀 洀愀渀愀最攀爀 愀渀搀ഊback-up server manager rolled her truck on the way down and I had no idea ਀眀栀愀琀 猀栀攀 栀愀搀 瀀氀愀渀渀攀搀 漀爀 眀栀漀 猀栀攀 栀愀搀 猀椀最渀攀搀 甀瀀⤀  ⠀猀栀攀 椀猀 漀欀 䈀吀圀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㐀⸀  吀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 最漀漀搀 眀愀猀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 漀渀ഊthis list before but it bears repeating. Test all recipes in advance. Most ਀攀猀瀀⸀ 琀攀猀琀 琀栀攀洀 漀渀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 搀漀渀✀琀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀漀猀攀 猀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 搀椀猀栀攀猀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 搀椀猀栀 猀漀 琀栀漀猀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 氀椀欀攀 椀琀 琀栀攀渀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 眀椀氀氀 琀漀漀⸀ഊ ਀㔀⸀  䴀愀欀攀 愀 琀椀洀椀渀最 挀栀愀爀琀⸀  䤀 栀愀搀 椀渀琀攀渀搀攀搀 琀漀 搀漀 琀栀椀猀 戀甀琀 氀攀琀 椀琀 猀氀椀瀀 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀ഊis what caused the major problem with the feast as some dishes were started ਀琀漀漀 氀愀琀攀 眀栀椀氀攀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 眀攀爀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀 琀漀漀 攀愀爀氀礀⸀  䴀夀 昀愀甀氀琀 攀渀琀椀爀攀氀礀 愀猀 䤀 搀椀搀ഊnot have explicit instructions as to when the dishes should be started and ਀挀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀 戀攀 攀瘀攀爀礀眀栀攀爀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀椀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 椀琀猀攀氀昀 猀攀攀洀攀搀 琀漀 最漀 漀瘀攀爀 眀攀氀氀 椀昀 猀甀挀栀 挀愀渀 戀攀 戀愀猀攀搀 漀渀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 昀爀漀洀ഊthe feasters. The menu is listed below. ਀ഊ ਀ഊMore later after I recover a bit more energy. ਀ഊConstance de la Rose ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㐀 䨀愀渀 ㈀  ㄀ ㄀㄀㨀㔀㌀㨀㐀㌀ ⴀ 㠀  ഊFrom: "rbutler_gg" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䘀攀愀猀琀 倀爀攀瀀 儀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀ഊ ਀㸀 伀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 琀愀猀欀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀 椀猀 琀漀 挀栀攀挀欀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀ഊ> going to be used, even if you have used it previously. Ovens go bad, ਀㸀 甀琀攀渀猀椀氀猀 搀椀猀愀瀀瀀攀愀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀椀渀最猀 洀愀礀 渀漀琀 戀攀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 琀椀洀攀 椀琀ഊwas ਀㸀 甀猀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀一漀琀 琀漀 戀攀 瀀愀爀愀渀漀椀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 挀栀攀挀欀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 昀爀攀焀甀攀渀琀氀礀⸀⸀⸀ 匀愀礀Ⰰ 愀 洀漀渀琀栀 戀攀昀漀爀攀ഊthe event, two weeks before the event, the week of, and the day before if ਀礀漀甀 挀愀渀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀伀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀 挀漀洀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 搀攀愀氀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 漀甀爀 猀椀琀攀✀猀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀⸀  圀栀椀挀栀Ⰰഊon separate occasions, had no gas for the gas appliances, had no burners ਀眀漀爀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 栀愀搀 琀眀漀 猀琀漀瘀攀猀 漀昀 眀栀椀挀栀 琀栀攀礀 戀漀琀栀 眀漀甀氀搀 漀渀氀礀 栀攀愀琀 琀漀 ㈀   搀攀最爀攀攀猀⸀ഊBut, luckily, the warming trays have always worked perfectly. ਀ഊIf you are suspicious of the kitchen, plan ahead for each and every thing to ਀戀爀攀愀欀 搀漀眀渀⸀⸀ 㰀䜀㸀  䤀琀 栀愀猀 猀愀瘀攀搀 洀愀渀礀 氀漀挀愀氀 昀攀愀猀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀䬀栀愀搀椀樀愀栀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:42:57 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䈀漀渀渀攀 漀昀 吀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀∀ 㰀漀昀琀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: RE: SC - Bidding for Feast ਀ഊ>A precisely budgeted bid, with menu, planned expenses and cost recovery ਀㸀椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 眀愀礀 琀漀 昀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀 洀礀 漀戀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 戀椀最最攀猀琀 漀瘀攀爀愀最攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 椀猀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀 ✀攀礀攀ⴀ戀愀氀氀猀✀ ഊamounts when shopping rather than having figured out the precise amount ਀渀攀攀搀攀搀⸀ 䄀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 琀椀洀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 挀愀氀挀甀氀愀琀漀爀 眀椀氀 氀攀琀 礀漀甀 挀甀琀 礀漀甀爀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀猀 瘀攀爀礀 ഊclosely. Also, be realistic about serving sizes. Unless your feast is 'one ਀挀漀甀爀猀攀✀ 漀昀 愀瀀瀀漀爀漀砀椀洀愀琀攀氀礀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 搀椀猀栀攀猀 礀漀甀✀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀 愀琀 猀甀瀀瀀攀爀Ⰰ ഊthen 'normal' servings are reasonable. If you are serving the equivalent of ਀愀 洀愀樀漀爀 昀愀洀椀氀礀 爀攀甀渀椀漀渀 䠀漀氀椀搀愀礀 洀攀愀氀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 洀甀氀琀椀瀀氀攀 洀攀愀琀猀Ⰰ 戀爀攀愀搀猀Ⰰ 猀椀搀攀 ഊdishes and desserts, you can go with half or three-quarter sized servings on ਀洀漀猀琀 椀琀攀洀猀⸀  䈀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 最漀漀搀ⴀ焀甀愀氀椀琀礀 戀爀攀愀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 栀甀渀最爀礀 ഊto fill in the odd empty spots, meat is too expensive for that purpose. ਀ഊI have in mind a particular cook back home who had, for instance, 20 lbs of ਀瀀愀挀欀愀最攀猀 渀漀漀搀氀攀猀 氀攀昀琀漀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 椀渀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 瘀愀猀琀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 搀甀洀瀀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 ഊpot into the garbage after all the platters were filled to overflowing. ਀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 昀漀漀搀猀 眀椀琀栀 栀愀爀搀 琀漀 昀椀最甀爀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 猀椀稀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 渀漀漀搀氀攀 瀀愀挀欀愀最攀猀 ഊgive a number of servings right on them. I can't think of any reason to ਀栀愀瘀攀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀搀 ㌀ 琀椀洀攀猀 琀栀攀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 戀攀猀椀搀攀猀 洀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀 ഊbased on guesswork rather than math. ਀ഊOver and over I saw people buying too much of the really cheap spices and ਀搀爀椀攀搀 栀攀爀戀猀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 猀琀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 琀漀 愀搀搀 甀瀀 琀栀攀 愀洀漀甀渀琀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀 ഊrealizing that the total amount needed is not that much. a total of 62 ਀琀攀愀猀瀀漀渀猀 猀漀甀渀搀猀 氀椀欀攀 愀 氀漀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 椀猀渀✀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 洀甀挀栀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 愀 挀甀瀀 愀渀搀 愀 ഊhalf--which weighs very little so bulk buying would have provides fresher ਀猀瀀椀挀攀猀⼀栀攀爀戀猀 愀渀搀 漀昀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 焀甀愀氀椀琀礀 琀漀漀⸀  ⠀圀攀 眀攀爀攀 氀甀挀欀礀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 洀甀氀琀椀瀀氀攀 ഊsources of bulk spices in Windmasters' Hill, as well as fresh herbs. It ਀愀氀眀愀礀猀 瀀愀椀渀攀搀 洀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀 栀攀愀瘀礀 甀猀攀 漀昀 搀爀椀攀搀 栀攀爀戀猀 椀渀 愀 搀椀猀栀 琀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 ഊbetter with fresh.) ਀ഊA lot of those who haven't cooked yet are overly worried about non-food ਀椀琀攀洀猀⸀  䄀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 漀瘀攀爀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀渀✀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 愀渀 椀猀猀甀攀ⴀⴀ戀甀琀 ഊmany people over purchase for fear of running out. ਀ഊI don't think it unreasonable for the cook to purchase cleaning supplies for ਀琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 椀琀猀攀氀昀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 氀攀昀琀漀瘀攀爀猀 琀漀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 猀椀琀攀 挀氀攀愀渀ⴀ甀瀀 渀攀砀琀 ഊmorning. (the autocrat should have their own stock of some items). For feast ਀漀昀 氀攀猀猀 琀栀愀渀 ㄀  Ⰰ 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 漀渀攀 氀愀爀最攀 戀漀琀琀氀攀 漀昀 搀椀猀栀 猀漀愀瀀Ⰰ 愀 ഊcouple or three bottles of all purpose cleaner, a bar of soap for ਀栀愀渀搀ⴀ挀氀攀愀渀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀 渀攀眀 瀀愀挀欀愀最攀 漀昀 ✀猀栀漀瀀 爀愀最猀✀ 琀漀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 愀猀 琀漀眀攀氀猀 愀渀搀 ഊmulti-pack of paper towels: $25 at most. (and save the towels for the next ਀昀攀愀猀琀℀⤀ 䤀 琀愀欀攀 洀礀 戀漀琀琀氀攀 漀昀 戀氀攀愀挀栀 昀漀爀 瀀爀攀ⴀ挀氀攀愀渀椀渀最 愀猀 猀漀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 椀猀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 ഊneeded. If the site proves to be lacking in brooms, mops, buckets, I bring ਀洀礀 漀眀渀 愀渀搀 挀愀氀氀 昀漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 漀渀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀甀渀琀⸀  䤀 愀氀猀漀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀 愀 ഊpackage of hairbands and a package of food-handling gloves. ਀ഊAs it happens, I have had to purchase disposable foil cooking containers for ਀戀漀琀栀 昀攀愀猀琀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 瀀椀攀挀攀猀⸀  ⠀✀最漀氀搀✀ 愀渀搀 ✀猀椀氀瘀攀爀✀ 戀漀眀氀猀 ഊand disposable serving forks/spoons). As much as possible, I washed and ਀猀愀瘀攀搀 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 昀甀琀甀爀攀 甀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 瀀愀挀欀愀最椀渀最 氀攀昀琀漀瘀攀爀猀Ⰰ 䤀 瀀甀爀挀栀愀猀攀 漀渀攀 氀愀爀最攀 爀漀氀氀 漀昀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 眀爀愀瀀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 ഊlarge roll of heavy duty foil, a box of gallon sized zip-locs, and a box of ਀猀洀愀氀氀 稀椀瀀ⴀ氀漀挀欀猀 愀渀搀 猀愀瘀攀搀 琀栀攀 甀渀甀猀攀搀 椀琀攀洀猀 昀漀爀 昀甀琀甀爀攀 匀䌀䄀 甀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 最漀漀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 椀琀攀洀猀 椀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀 漀爀 琀眀漀 昀攀愀猀琀猀 瀀爀椀漀爀 琀漀 礀漀甀爀 ഊown. Ask each cook before hand for the leftovers of any non-perishable food ਀⠀琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 甀猀攀⤀Ⰰ 挀氀攀愀渀椀渀最 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀Ⰰ 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 愀渀搀 瀀愀挀欀愀最椀渀最 ഊsupplies, for use at your SCA feast. Take an empty laundry basket or ਀爀甀戀戀攀爀洀愀椀搀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀 愀渀搀 戀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀渀搀 栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀氀攀愀渀 甀瀀 ഊphases. This is easier if you are already on the calendar, but if you have ਀戀攀攀渀 栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀 攀渀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 最氀愀搀 琀漀 挀漀渀琀爀椀戀甀琀攀⸀  䄀渀搀 椀昀 ഊin your own group, I would think EXPECT to pass on the unused items. ਀ഊBonne ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 伀挀琀 ㈀  ㄀  㤀㨀 㘀㨀㔀  ⴀ 㘀  ഊFrom: Mem Morman ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 伀爀愀挀氀攀 䌀漀爀瀀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀ഊTo: "SCA-Cooks at Ansteorra.ORG" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䈀攀椀渀最 愀 䌀漀漀欀ഊ ਀倀愀爀琀 漀昀 戀攀椀渀最 愀 挀漀漀欀 椀猀 搀攀愀氀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀猀⸀  䠀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊbasic points on which I refuse to compromise, and which I pass on ਀愀搀愀洀愀渀琀氀礀 ⠀渀漀 瀀甀渀 椀渀琀攀渀搀攀搀⤀ 琀漀 琀栀漀猀攀 䤀 栀攀氀瀀 琀漀 琀爀愀椀渀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀甀搀最攀琀 洀甀猀琀 戀攀 猀攀琀 瀀攀爀 栀攀愀搀 攀愀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀ഊThis means that I will not accept being told I have $200 to "do" the ਀昀攀愀猀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 琀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀 栀漀眀攀瘀攀爀 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 䤀 愀洀 琀漀氀搀 漀渀 匀愀琀甀爀搀愀礀ഊafternoon are actually eating. I need to know that I have $2 or $4.25 ਀漀爀 ␀㈀  倀䔀刀 䠀䔀䄀䐀 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 渀攀攀搀猀 琀漀 戀攀 瀀愀椀搀 昀漀爀 攀愀挀栀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 昀漀爀ഊwhom a place is set - be it three year old or king and queen. One of ਀琀栀攀 眀漀爀猀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 䤀䴀䠀伀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀猀 琀爀礀 琀漀 搀漀 椀猀 琀漀 昀漀椀猀琀 栀椀最栀 琀愀戀氀攀ഊinto the cook's numbers without agreeing to pay for them. As a cook, I ਀搀漀渀✀琀 挀愀爀攀 圀䠀伀 瀀愀礀猀 昀漀爀 栀椀最栀 琀愀戀氀攀 ⠀琀栀攀 最爀漀甀瀀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀爀漀眀渀Ⰰ 甀渀挀氀攀ഊcharlie's expense account) but if they are going to be served food then ਀琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 栀攀愀搀猀 椀渀 洀礀 戀甀搀最攀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 渀攀攀搀 愀 昀椀爀洀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 昀攀愀猀琀攀爀猀 戀礀 䘀爀椀搀愀礀 渀漀漀渀 昀漀爀 愀 匀愀琀甀爀搀愀礀 昀攀愀猀琀⸀ഊI realized that some people do this differently - but I do not. I shop ਀䘀爀椀搀愀礀 攀瘀攀渀椀渀最 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 洀愀樀漀爀椀琀礀 漀昀 洀礀 最爀漀挀攀爀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 漀渀ഊsite. Before I shop, and before I make my final list of pots, pans, and ਀猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 最攀愀爀㬀 䤀 渀攀攀搀 愀 昀椀渀愀氀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 琀愀戀氀攀猀 漀昀 攀椀最栀琀 䤀 眀椀氀氀ഊbe serving. ਀ഊWe need to agree, at least generally, on when the feast will be served. ਀䤀 挀愀渀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 瀀甀琀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀眀愀爀搀 漀爀 戀愀挀欀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 ⴀ 戀甀琀 䤀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 欀渀漀眀ഊif it's going to be served about 4pm or about 7pm and I need regular ਀甀瀀搀愀琀攀猀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀⸀  䤀昀 昀攀愀猀琀 琀椀洀攀 挀栀愀渀最攀猀 戀礀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀ഊan hour then all bets are off. The autocrat, the cook, and the reigning ਀渀漀戀椀氀椀琀礀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 琀愀氀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀渀搀 愀最爀攀攀 琀漀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀氀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䔀氀愀椀渀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:45:10 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀栀椀氀 吀爀漀礀⼀ 䜀⸀ 吀愀挀椀琀甀猀 䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀∀ 㰀愀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀 愀琀 瘀攀爀椀稀漀渀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] professional cooks-- reality check wanted ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀嬀伀渀 搀椀挀椀渀最 洀攀愀琀崀ഊ ਀䘀圀䤀圀Ⰰ 洀漀猀琀 挀栀攀昀猀 漀昀 洀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 眀椀氀氀Ⰰ 椀昀 琀栀攀礀 猀攀攀 愀渀礀 渀攀攀搀 愀琀 愀氀氀 ഊfor precision, cut the first chunk (or come back when the actual task ਀椀猀 猀攀琀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 栀愀洀猀 甀渀眀爀愀瀀瀀攀搀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 戀漀愀爀搀猀 猀攀琀 甀瀀⤀Ⰰ 氀攀愀瘀攀 椀琀 愀琀 ഊthe top of the cutting board (i.e. the edge furthest away from your ਀戀攀氀氀礀⤀ 愀渀搀 猀愀礀Ⰰ ∀䤀 渀攀攀搀 ㄀    洀漀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀⸀∀ 䤀琀 琀攀渀搀猀 琀漀 氀椀洀椀琀 ഊportion-size sprawl near the end of a tedious job, to be able to ਀挀漀洀瀀愀爀攀 礀漀甀爀 眀漀爀欀 攀瘀攀爀礀 猀漀 漀昀琀攀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀瀀氀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀伀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 眀攀 愀氀氀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 渀漀 琀攀搀椀漀甀猀 樀漀戀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀⸀⸀⸀ 㬀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:32:28 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀栀椀氀 吀爀漀礀⼀ 䜀⸀ 吀愀挀椀琀甀猀 䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀∀ 㰀愀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀 愀琀 瘀攀爀椀稀漀渀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] Re: Food for Fifty ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䄀氀猀漀 猀瀀爀愀挀栀 琀爀愀挀攀礀 猀愀眀礀攀爀㨀ഊ> Adamantius - can you supply details of that book? It sounds like it ਀㸀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 琀漀 愀氀氀 䘀攀愀猀琀漀挀爀愀琀猀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀椀昀 椀琀 椀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 椀渀 瀀爀椀渀琀Ⰰഊ> that is.. ਀㸀ഊ> Thanks, Lowry ਀ഊ"Food For Fifty", by Grace Shugart, Mary Molt, and Maxine Wilson ਀ഊSeventh Edition, copyright 1985 by John Wiley and Sons, Inc., NYC. ਀䤀匀䈀一   㐀㜀㄀ⴀ㠀㄀㄀ 㐀ⴀ㄀ഊ ਀䄀瀀瀀愀爀攀渀琀氀礀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 攀搀椀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 戀礀 匀椀渀愀 䘀愀礀攀 䘀漀眀氀攀爀 愀渀搀 䈀攀猀猀椀攀 䈀爀漀漀欀猀ഊWest, published in 1937? ਀ഊI bought this new for $31.95 in 1985. Newer editions (which may or ਀洀愀礀 渀漀琀 戀攀 愀渀礀 戀攀琀琀攀爀⤀ 愀爀攀 焀甀椀琀攀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀Ⰰ 䤀 最愀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 愀猀ഊmuch as $75 US, but you sometimes see copies on eBay for cheap. ਀ഊAdamantius ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀ 䴀愀爀 ㈀  㐀 ㄀ 㨀 ㄀㨀㔀  ⴀ 㠀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䌀漀渀瘀椀瘀攀渀挀椀愀 昀攀愀猀琀 瀀漀猀琀洀漀爀琀攀洀 ⠀䰀伀一䜀℀℀℀⤀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊCongratulations! Sounds like quite a effort for your first feast. A ਀挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 ⠀眀栀椀挀栀 礀漀甀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 爀攀愀氀椀稀攀 戀礀 渀漀眀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀✀氀氀ഊmake for others in that position): ਀ഊBring lots of thermometers, both oven thermometers and meat ਀琀栀攀爀洀漀洀攀琀攀爀猀⸀ 唀猀攀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀爀洀漀洀攀琀攀爀猀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 猀愀爀琀ഊusing the oven. I disovered this at a feast where one of the ovens ਀琀甀爀渀攀搀 漀甀琀 琀漀 戀攀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 漀渀 昀甀氀氀 戀氀愀猀琀 漀爀 漀昀昀ⴀⴀ渀漀 椀渀琀攀爀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀ഊoptions. The bread would have come out looking prettier if I had ਀爀攀愀氀椀稀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 攀愀爀氀椀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 猀礀猀琀攀洀 昀漀爀 爀攀挀攀椀瀀琀猀Ⰰ 搀攀猀椀最渀攀搀 漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 瘀攀爀礀 栀愀爀搀 琀漀 氀漀猀攀 琀栀攀洀㨀ഊhave an envelope magnetted to the refrigerator, into which receipts ਀愀爀攀 瀀甀琀㬀 椀昀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀琀攀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀攀椀瀀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 昀漀爀ഊbefore you put it in. As each goes in, put the total from that ਀爀攀挀攀椀瀀琀 漀渀 愀 氀椀猀琀 漀渀琀栀攀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀渀瘀攀氀漀瀀攀⸀ 䄀琀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀Ⰰ 愀搀搀 甀瀀ഊthat column. The envelope never leaves that spot until I am handing ਀漀瘀攀爀 洀礀 昀椀渀愀氀 愀挀挀漀甀渀琀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䔀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀⼀䈀攀琀琀礀 䌀漀漀欀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:58:07 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀吀攀爀爀礀 䐀攀挀欀攀爀∀ 㰀琀⸀搀⸀搀攀挀欀攀爀 愀琀 眀漀爀氀搀渀攀琀⸀愀琀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Re: What would you do? ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀圀栀攀渀 搀漀椀渀最 愀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 䤀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 瀀爀漀瀀漀猀愀氀 眀椀琀栀 愀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 洀攀渀甀 愀渀搀ഊbudget. If it is accepted, the document constitutes a contract between me ਀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀瀀  ⠀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀昀昀椀挀攀爀猀 爀攀愀氀椀稀攀 琀栀椀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀ഊgives me grounds to sue in small claims court to recover any monies up to ਀琀栀攀 戀甀搀最攀琀 氀椀洀椀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀瀀漀猀愀氀⤀⸀  䤀 眀漀爀欀 昀甀渀搀椀渀最 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀ഊTreasurer. The autocrat has no real control over my operation and I ਀愀挀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 琀愀欀攀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 漀昀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 猀甀爀爀漀甀渀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 愀ഊcrew to handle it. Experienced autocrats (which are most of the ones I work ਀眀椀琀栀⤀ 猀琀愀礀 漀甀琀 漀昀 洀礀 眀愀礀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 琀爀愀挀欀 爀攀挀漀爀搀 漀昀 瀀爀漀昀椀琀愀戀氀攀ഊsuccesses and it is just that much they don't have to deal with. I have ਀挀漀渀琀爀漀氀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 氀椀猀琀攀渀 琀漀 愀氀氀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 䤀 眀漀爀欀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀 琀漀ഊensure a successful event. ਀ഊAny autocrat who tried to stick me with planned expenses because they ਀猀挀爀攀眀攀搀 甀瀀 琀栀攀 戀甀搀最攀琀椀渀最 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 昀甀氀氀ഊabrasiveness of my personality at a populace meeting. An event is a group ਀昀甀渀挀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀昀椀琀 漀爀 氀漀猀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 戀漀爀渀攀 戀礀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀瀀ഊunless prior arrangements are made with individuals who will foot the bills ਀⠀匀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 漀昀 甀猀 椀渀 洀礀 戀愀爀漀渀礀 栀愀瘀攀 昀漀漀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 洀漀渀攀礀 昀漀爀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀 愀渀搀 戀攀攀渀ഊpaid back from the proceeds). Trying to gloss over their financial failings ਀戀礀 攀砀琀漀爀琀椀渀最 洀漀渀攀礀 漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀漀欀猀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 栀愀氀氀洀愀爀欀猀 漀昀 愀 氀椀愀爀Ⰰ 挀栀攀愀琀 愀渀搀ഊthief. ਀ഊAt present, I'm working on a feast for 260 at a cost of $5/plate and a price ਀漀昀 ␀㜀⼀瀀氀愀琀攀⸀  䤀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 戀爀攀愀欀 攀瘀攀渀 愀渀搀 愀 ␀㈀   瀀爀漀昀椀琀⸀  䤀昀 䤀ഊcan do some creative purchasing, I may be able to increase the profit ਀洀愀爀最椀渀⸀  匀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 戀愀爀漀渀礀 栀愀猀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀搀 猀漀洀攀 洀漀渀攀琀愀爀礀 氀漀猀猀攀猀 攀愀爀氀椀攀爀 琀栀椀猀ഊyear, any profits from my feast will go to replenish the baronial ਀挀漀昀昀攀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀䈀攀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊ> Boy howdy. I couldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. Not ever again. We ਀㸀 栀愀搀 漀甀爀 昀攀愀猀琀 戀甀搀最攀琀 挀甀琀 椀渀 栀愀氀昀 琀栀椀猀 瀀愀猀琀 礀攀愀爀 愀昀琀攀爀 眀攀 栀愀搀 搀漀渀攀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 漀甀爀ഊprecooks and spent most of the money. Both head-cooks were forced into ਀昀漀漀琀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 ␀㔀  攀愀挀栀 愀猀 漀甀爀 ✀搀漀渀愀琀椀漀渀✀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䤀✀洀 渀攀瘀攀爀 搀漀椀渀最 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 昀漀爀 氀攀猀猀 琀栀愀渀 ␀㘀 愀 栀攀愀搀 琀漀 猀瀀攀渀搀 愀最愀椀渀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀爀ഊautocrat will only allow you to spend $3 a head - kindly explain that you ਀挀愀渀✀琀 攀瘀攀渀 戀甀礀 愀 洀攀愀氀 愀琀 䴀挀䐀漀渀愀氀搀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀愀琀 瀀爀椀挀攀⸀  䄀渀搀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀氀甀攀ഊmeals at McDonalds are almost $5 each. And if he/she continues to insist on ਀␀㌀ 琀栀攀渀 猀攀爀瘀攀 猀漀甀瀀Ⰰ 戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀愀礀戀攀 愀 挀栀椀挀欀攀渀 愀渀搀 愀 挀栀攀愀瀀 瘀攀最最椀攀 ⴀ 氀椀欀攀ഊpeas or carrots, and shortbread for dessert. ਀㸀ഊ> Don't even bother trying to do make it into a three-course meal. It's ਀最甀愀爀愀渀琀攀攀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 礀漀甀 甀瀀猀攀琀⸀ 夀漀甀✀爀攀 愀 瘀漀氀甀渀琀攀攀爀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 愀 昀爀攀愀欀椀渀最ഊmircle-worker. Especially when you are not allowed to shop for ਀猀愀氀攀猀⼀戀愀爀最愀椀渀猀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䬀愀琀攀爀礀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:21:18 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䐀愀渀椀攀氀  倀栀攀氀瀀猀∀ 㰀瀀栀攀氀瀀猀搀 愀琀 最愀琀攀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Re: What would you do? ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀刀攀最愀爀搀猀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 猀琀甀挀欀 戀礀 琀栀攀 䄀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀 栀椀洀⼀栀攀爀ഊwith a can of tuna fish and a loaf of Wonder Bread at the next populace ਀洀攀攀琀椀渀最 愀渀搀 愀猀欀 栀椀洀 琀漀 瀀攀爀昀漀爀洀 氀漀愀瘀攀猀 愀渀搀 昀椀猀栀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀渀椀攀氀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:21:29 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀愀最最椀攀 䴀愀挀䐀漀渀愀氀搀 㰀洀愀最最椀攀㔀 愀琀 挀漀砀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] mise-en-place ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䄀琀 ㄀㈀㨀   倀䴀 㠀⼀㈀㘀⼀㈀  㐀Ⰰ䨀愀搀眀椀最愀 娀愀樀愀挀稀欀漀眀愀 ⼀ 䨀攀渀渀攀 䠀攀椀猀攀 猀愀椀搀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 ഊlike: ਀㸀 䘀漀爀 琀栀漀猀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀 眀栀漀 愀爀攀 昀愀洀椀氀椀愀爀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀Ⰰ 愀搀瘀椀挀攀 漀渀ഊ> applying that sort of thing to SCA feast kitchens-- and advice on ਀㸀 漀爀最愀渀椀稀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 昀攀愀猀琀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀ⴀⴀ 椀猀 眀栀愀琀 䤀✀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀漀 栀攀愀爀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 ⴀⴀ 䨀愀搀眀椀最愀 娀愀樀愀挀稀欀漀眀愀Ⰰ 䬀渀漀眀氀攀搀最攀 倀椀欀愀 樀攀渀渀攀 愀琀 昀椀攀搀氀攀爀昀愀洀椀氀礀⸀渀攀琀ഊ ਀夀攀猀⸀ 䤀 愀洀 焀甀椀琀攀 昀愀洀椀氀椀愀爀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀椀猀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 挀漀渀搀椀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀ഊcircumstance, and the outcome. ਀ഊI've gotten almost organized when it comes to cooking at events these ਀搀愀礀猀⸀  䄀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 昀攀愀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 挀漀漀欀攀搀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀渀搀攀搀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 愀ഊminiature roll of oddly colored duct tape, and had them apply a small ਀猀焀甀愀爀攀 漀昀 椀琀 琀漀 攀瘀攀爀礀 椀琀攀洀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀搀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 洀礀 ㈀ 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 漀昀 最攀愀爀⸀  吀栀愀琀ഊway (for the first time!) none of my gear got mixed in with the baronial ਀最攀愀爀Ⰰ 漀爀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 愀猀猀漀爀琀攀搀 氀漀愀渀攀搀 椀琀攀洀猀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀洀攀 椀渀⸀  ⠀䤀✀瘀攀 猀椀渀挀攀ഊwondered if there wasn't a waterproof avery label dot that wouldn't ਀猀攀爀瘀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 瀀甀爀瀀漀猀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 愀氀猀漀 琀愀欀攀 愀渀搀 漀爀最愀渀椀稀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 戀礀 挀漀甀爀猀攀⼀爀攀洀漀瘀攀⼀眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀⸀  吀栀愀琀 眀愀礀ഊall the onions that go with the soup are not mixed in with the onions that ਀最漀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀氀愀搀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀渀 瀀氀愀挀攀搀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 椀渀ഊbaskets, and arrayed against the wall, on the counter, or whatever, in the ਀漀爀搀攀爀 漀昀 猀攀爀瘀椀挀攀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 眀椀氀氀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 戀攀 愀 挀攀渀琀爀愀氀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 昀漀爀 猀琀甀昀昀 氀椀欀攀ഊflour, sugar, salt, vinegars, the stock items that get used all over, but ਀栀漀瀀攀昀甀氀氀礀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 愀瀀瀀愀爀攀渀琀℀  ⠀洀愀欀攀 琀栀愀琀 氀椀猀琀Ⰰ 挀栀攀挀欀 椀琀 琀眀椀挀攀Ⰰഊthrice and four times before leaving the house). ਀ഊAt all times there are 2-3 copies of the menu, the recipes, ingredient ਀氀椀猀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 渀漀琀攀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀⸀ 伀渀攀 最漀攀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀ഊfor the inevitable question askers, and one is for me to refer to while in ਀瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 椀搀攀愀氀 ㌀爀搀 挀漀瀀礀 椀猀 漀渀 愀 挀氀椀瀀戀漀愀爀搀⼀渀漀琀攀戀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 栀攀氀瀀攀爀猀 椀渀ഊthe kitchen to refer to in case I misplace my copy. ਀ഊI'm sure there are even more gems, but that is what I've learned to do. ਀匀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 琀栀攀洀 甀瀀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀⸀ 䜀爀漀甀瀀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䴀䄀刀䬀ഊEVERYTHING. Make lists of everything. Hell, I've even had lists of ਀氀椀猀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀刀攀最愀爀搀猀ⰀഊMaggie ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㘀 䄀甀最 ㈀  㐀 ㄀㘀㨀㔀㄀㨀㔀㔀 ⴀ 㐀  ഊFrom: "Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius" ਀ऀ㰀愀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀⸀洀愀最椀猀琀爀 愀琀 瘀攀爀椀稀漀渀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] mise-en-place ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䄀氀猀漀 猀瀀爀愀挀 䨀愀搀眀椀最愀 娀愀樀愀挀稀欀漀眀愀 ⼀ 䨀攀渀渀攀 䠀攀椀猀攀㨀ഊ> but t seems to me that the concept of mise-en-place obviously could be ਀㸀 猀漀洀攀眀栀愀琀 愀搀愀瀀琀攀搀 琀漀 匀䌀䄀 昀攀愀猀琀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀 戀攀礀漀渀搀 琀栀愀琀⸀⸀⸀ 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 琀栀攀ഊ> chain of events at my feast that ended up making us switch the feast ਀㸀 挀漀甀爀猀攀猀 愀渀搀 渀攀愀爀氀礀 瀀漀椀猀漀渀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀 爀攀愀搀 琀栀攀 洀攀渀甀 愀渀搀 搀爀愀渀欀ഊ> lemon drink which they thought was sekanjabin, was partly because nobody ਀㸀 挀漀甀氀搀 昀椀渀搀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 愀渀搀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 搀椀搀 昀椀渀搀 椀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 洀漀瘀攀搀 椀琀 猀漀洀攀瀀氀愀挀攀ഊ> else and we began the Great Spice and Equipment Hunt all over again. ਀㸀ഊ> For hose of you who are familiar with the whole concept, advice on ਀㸀 愀瀀瀀氀礀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 匀䌀䄀 昀攀愀猀琀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀ⴀⴀ 愀渀搀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀 漀渀ഊ> organizing your feast kitchen-- is what I'm looking to hear. ਀ഊI confess to being one of those stupid people who don't tendto do a ਀氀漀琀 漀昀 瀀爀攀ⴀ瀀爀攀瀀㬀 洀礀 戀愀挀欀最爀漀甀渀搀 椀猀 洀漀爀攀 氀椀欀攀Ⰰ 挀漀洀攀 椀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀漀爀渀椀渀最Ⰰഊunpack, cook an absolutely fresh meal, clean up, go home (or back to ਀挀愀洀瀀Ⰰ 䤀 最甀攀猀猀⤀⸀ 伀爀 猀漀洀攀 瘀愀爀椀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀渀挀漀甀渀琀攀爀攀搀 椀猀 洀椀猀甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀渀最猀ഊbetween different people each requiring a certain ingredient, and not ਀渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 眀椀氀氀椀渀最 琀漀 洀攀愀猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀洀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀氀礀⸀ 匀漀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀ഊchopping ten pounds of onions, finding a bunch of onions (15 pounds) ਀椀渀 愀 戀愀最Ⰰ 眀椀氀氀 挀栀漀瀀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 愀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 眀愀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 渀攀砀琀ഊperson comes along, looking for the five pounds of unchopped onions ਀琀栀攀礀 渀攀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀琀愀最攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 昀椀渀搀 渀漀渀攀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 猀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀漀 瀀爀攀ⴀ瀀爀攀瀀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 漀爀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 愀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀Ⰰ 椀渀ഊadvance, separate out whatever is needed for different project and ਀氀愀戀攀氀 琀栀攀洀 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀氀礀⸀ 伀渀攀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 䤀✀瘀攀 甀猀攀搀 椀猀 琀漀 猀攀琀 甀瀀 猀栀攀攀琀ഊpans or hotel pans on the shelves of a walk-in fridge (if you have ਀漀渀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 爀漀漀洀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀愀戀攀氀 琀栀漀猀攀 愀猀 洀椀猀攀ⴀ攀渀ⴀ瀀氀愀挀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀琀愀最攀Ⰰ 漀渀攀ഊfor the meat sauce in the second course, etc. ਀ഊAnother possible aid is in conceiving a menu where many of your ਀椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 挀愀渀 愀氀氀 戀攀 瀀爀攀瀀瀀攀搀 椀渀 愀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 眀愀礀Ⰰ 挀甀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀ഊsize, etc. This makes it both expedient and necessary for the cooks ਀琀漀 洀攀愀猀甀爀攀 愀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 挀甀瀀猀Ⰰ 焀甀愀爀琀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 瀀漀甀渀搀猀 漀昀 挀漀瀀瀀攀搀ഊonion, leaving behind what they don't need. Certainly it affects the ਀氀漀漀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀渀椀猀栀攀搀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀 ⠀猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀 愀猀欀 洀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 栀漀眀 琀栀椀猀 栀愀猀ഊchanged the appearance of Chinese restaurant food in, say, the last ਀㈀  礀攀愀爀猀Ⰰ 爀攀昀氀攀挀琀椀渀最 戀漀琀栀 琀栀愀琀 攀砀瀀攀搀椀攀渀挀攀 戀甀琀 愀氀猀漀 愀 搀攀挀氀椀渀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊskills of the prep cooks, or at least their willingness to shred ਀琀栀椀渀最猀 琀漀 ㄀⼀㌀㈀ 漀昀 愀渀 椀渀挀栀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 漀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀愀氀 愀椀搀 椀猀 琀漀 挀爀攀愀琀攀 愀 挀漀洀戀椀渀攀搀 猀栀漀瀀瀀椀渀最ഊlist, ingredient list, and ingredients per dish with quantities, ਀氀椀猀琀Ⰰ 渀 愀渀 䔀砀挀攀氀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀瀀爀攀愀搀猀栀攀攀琀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 䤀✀洀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 最攀琀ഊthis done, I post it clearly in a highly visible location, like, say, ਀琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀漀爀 搀漀漀爀⸀ഊOne feature of such a list is the ability to color code certain key ਀椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀✀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 椀渀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 搀椀猀栀攀猀Ⰰ 猀漀 愀 焀甀椀挀欀 猀挀愀渀 漀昀ഊthe chart shows pretty clearly everything that calls for butter, and ਀栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀 椀猀 渀攀攀搀攀搀 昀漀爀 攀愀挀栀⸀ 圀栀椀氀攀 椀琀✀猀 渀漀琀 愀 瀀攀爀昀攀挀琀 猀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 䤀✀瘀攀ഊhad people tell me, "I'm really glad I spotted that you needed butterfor both the pastry and the soup, or I might have just grabbed it all ਀眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最⸀∀ഊ ਀一漀眀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 最爀攀愀琀 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 琀栀椀渀欀 椀渀 琀攀爀洀猀 漀昀 爀攀猀琀愀甀爀愀渀琀ഊmise-en-place, with little bain-marie containers tightly wrapped in ਀瀀氀愀猀眀爀愀瀀 愀渀搀 氀愀戀攀氀攀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 挀漀漀欀 昀爀攀焀甀攀渀琀氀礀 栀愀猀 琀漀ഊdeal with is a lack of dedicated space for SCA stuff (what does the ਀猀椀琀攀 挀愀爀攀琀愀欀攀爀 开搀漀开 眀椀琀栀 愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀氀昀ⴀ愀渀搀ⴀ栀愀氀昀 愀渀礀眀愀礀㼀㼀㼀⤀⸀ 䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀ഊis a lack of good-quality containers that fit well together in a ਀猀洀愀氀氀 猀瀀愀挀攀⸀ 䐀椀琀琀漀 愀渀 漀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀愀氀 琀攀渀搀攀渀挀礀 琀漀 戀甀礀 琀栀攀 猀洀愀氀氀攀猀琀Ⰰഊcheapest possible plastic wrap, foil, etc. ਀ഊBearing all this in mind, my experience has been that the Excel ਀挀栀愀爀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 漀渀椀漀渀猀 愀氀氀 挀栀漀瀀瀀攀搀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 眀愀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 搀攀愀氀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰഊbringing a scale so nobody can say they couldn't figure out how much ਀眀愀猀 昀椀瘀攀 瀀漀甀渀搀猀Ⰰ 椀猀 愀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 最漀漀搀 挀漀洀瀀爀漀洀椀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:13:41 -0700 (PDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䠀甀攀琀琀攀 瘀漀渀 䄀栀攀渀猀 㰀愀栀爀攀渀猀栀愀瘀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] mise-en-place ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀ 䴀愀最最椀攀 䴀愀挀䐀漀渀愀氀搀 㰀洀愀最最椀攀㔀挀漀砀⸀渀攀琀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> (I've since wondered if there wasn't a waterproof avery ਀㸀 氀愀戀攀氀 搀漀琀 琀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 猀攀爀瘀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 瀀甀爀瀀漀猀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀一漀琀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 栀攀愀爀搀 漀昀⸀  䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 甀猀攀ഊcolored nail polish to mark my feast and ਀猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 最攀愀爀⸀  匀漀洀攀 椀琀攀洀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 愀琀 攀愀猀琀ഊ15 years old and still have most of the ਀渀愀椀氀 瀀漀氀椀猀栀 漀渀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀䠀甀攀琀琀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:26:04 +0200 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 唀氀昀刀 㰀甀氀昀爀 愀琀 栀甀渀琀攀爀ⴀ最愀琀栀攀爀攀爀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] mise-en-place ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䴀愀最最椀攀 䴀愀挀䐀漀渀愀氀搀 㰀洀愀最最椀攀㔀 愀琀 挀漀砀⸀渀攀琀㸀 嬀㈀  㐀⸀ 㠀⸀㈀㘀崀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> days. At the start of the last feast that I cooked, I handed someone a ਀㸀 洀椀渀椀愀琀甀爀攀 爀漀氀氀 漀昀 漀搀搀氀礀 挀漀氀漀爀攀搀 搀甀挀琀 琀愀瀀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀搀 琀栀攀洀 愀瀀瀀氀礀 愀 猀洀愀氀氀ഊ ਀䤀✀瘀攀 甀猀攀搀 愀 爀攀最甀氀愀爀 ⠀洀漀搀攀爀渀⤀ 䐀礀洀漀 猀琀礀氀攀 氀愀戀攀氀 琀愀瀀攀 漀渀 猀琀甀昀昀⸀ 䤀琀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀ഊsticks to stainless steel through dishwashing (both hand and commercial ਀洀愀挀栀椀渀攀⤀ 愀渀搀 䤀✀瘀攀 攀瘀攀渀 栀愀搀 猀琀甀昀昀 瀀甀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 琀愀瀀攀 漀渀 眀椀琀栀ഊno ill effects. If there wasn't a significant lack of Sabatier knives in ਀洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀 眀攀 甀猀攀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 洀漀猀琀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 最攀琀 愀 搀椀愀洀漀渀搀 瀀攀渀 愀渀搀ഊmark those as well. ਀ഊ> At all times there are 2-3 copies of the menu, the recipes, ingredient ਀㸀 氀椀猀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 渀漀琀攀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀⸀ 伀渀攀 最漀攀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀ഊ> for the inevitable question askers, and one is for me to refer to while in ਀㸀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 椀搀攀愀氀 ㌀爀搀 挀漀瀀礀 椀猀 漀渀 愀 挀氀椀瀀戀漀愀爀搀⼀渀漀琀攀戀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 栀攀氀瀀攀爀猀 椀渀ഊ> the kitchen to refer to in case I misplace my copy. ਀ഊI print out three copies, and one version with the dishes, their names ਀愀渀搀 愀氀氀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 氀愀琀琀攀爀 最攀琀猀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 戀礀 琀栀攀 最愀琀攀 ⠀漀爀 猀漀洀攀 漀琀栀攀爀ഊlogical place) and I ask the gate-people to tell the guests about it, ਀椀渀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀攀爀最椀挀 琀漀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最⸀ 伀昀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀ഊthree copies one is my reference copy, one goes on the ਀眀愀氀氀⼀昀爀椀搀最攀⼀搀漀漀爀⼀攀琀挀 椀渀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 ⠀愀氀氀 琀椀洀攀猀 最攀琀猀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀爀攀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊthe final one (which is printed one recipe per sheet) gets put into ਀椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 ⠀䄀㐀ⴀ猀椀稀攀⤀ 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 瀀漀挀欀攀琀猀⸀ 吀栀愀琀 眀愀礀 䤀 挀愀渀 栀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀ഊworking on the cuskynoles the recipie (both the original and my ਀椀渀琀攀爀瀀爀攀琀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 眀攀椀最栀琀猀 ☀ 瘀漀氀甀洀攀猀⤀ 挀愀渀 栀愀瘀攀 椀琀 栀愀渀搀礀Ⰰ 椀渀 愀渀 攀愀猀礀 ഊwipe off state. ਀ഊ> I'm sure there are even more gems, but that is what I've learned to do. ਀㸀 匀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 琀栀攀洀 甀瀀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀⸀ 䜀爀漀甀瀀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䴀䄀刀䬀ഊ> EVERYTHING. Make lists of everything. Hell, I've even had lists of ਀㸀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 搀攀猀椀最渀愀琀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀㬀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀爀渀攀爀 栀愀猀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀ഊare my knives, etc. ਀ഊOne day I will make a portable cabinet, like the ones that carpenters ਀甀猀攀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 最攀愀爀 䤀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 戀爀椀渀最 漀渀 猀椀琀攀 椀渀 搀攀猀椀最渀愀琀攀搀ഊcubby-holes. ਀ഊUlfR ਀唀氀昀刀 䬀攀琀椀氀猀漀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:29:37 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀栀椀氀 吀爀漀礀 ⼀ 䜀⸀ 吀愀挀椀琀甀猀 䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀∀ഊ ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 搀攀愀氀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 挀漀漀欀猀ഊTo: jenne at fiedlerfamily.net, Cooks within the SCA ਀ऀ㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䄀氀猀漀 猀瀀爀愀挀栀 䨀愀搀眀椀最愀 娀愀樀愀挀稀欀漀眀愀 ⼀ 䨀攀渀渀攀 䠀攀椀猀攀㨀ഊ> I'm looking for some suggestions. I have found that I'm having a hard ਀㸀 琀椀洀攀 挀漀洀洀甀渀椀挀愀琀椀渀最 眀攀氀氀 眀椀琀栀 挀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀 攀砀琀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊ> experience. This is a bit of a problem seeing as I'm dating one. There's ਀㸀 愀氀猀漀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 樀甀猀琀 瀀漀瀀瀀攀搀 甀瀀 氀漀挀愀氀氀礀 眀栀漀 愀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀 搀漀ഊ> medieval/renaissance cooking are having a bit of difficulty with. We'll ਀㸀 挀愀氀氀 栀椀洀 䈀漀戀戀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䔀愀猀琀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䈀漀戀戀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䔀愀猀琀 栀愀猀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 焀甀愀渀琀椀琀礀 漀昀 椀搀攀愀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 栀漀眀 琀栀椀渀最猀 猀栀漀甀氀搀ഊ> be done. Some of them are good (for instance, thinking about what you ਀㸀 挀漀甀氀搀 甀猀攀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀愀甀挀攀 漀渀⤀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 ⠀琀攀氀氀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 眀愀猀ഊ> getting a roast pig done by their local butcher as part of their feast, ਀㸀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 渀漀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 猀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀甀琀 昀漀爀 䌀栀椀渀攀猀攀⸀⸀⸀⤀ 愀爀攀Ⰰ 眀攀氀氀Ⰰഊ> difficult to cope with. There is definitely a protective armor of ਀㸀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 戀攀椀渀最 甀猀攀搀 栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 漀昀琀攀渀 愀猀 愀爀洀漀爀攀搀 瀀愀渀攀氀猀ഊ> for a bulldozer. ਀ഊI know there've been several responses on this topic already, but the ਀愀挀琀甀愀氀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 最椀瘀攀渀 愀戀漀瘀攀 椀猀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 瘀愀最甀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀ഊsuspect some faulty assumptions have been made somewhere along the ਀氀椀渀攀⸀ 䈀甀琀 愀渀礀眀愀礀Ⰰ 栀攀爀攀 最漀攀猀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䨀愀搀眀椀最愀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 猀琀愀琀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 眀椀琀栀 䈀漀戀戀礀✀猀ഊ(sorry, when I hear "Bobby of the East" I immediately think of a ਀挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 䨀漀椀猀攀礀 䐀漀漀欀⤀ 搀攀猀椀爀攀 琀漀 攀洀瀀栀愀猀椀稀攀 栀椀猀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀ഊover anybody's desire to do a good period recreation. What you do ਀猀琀愀琀攀Ⰰ 洀漀爀攀 漀爀 氀攀猀猀Ⰰ 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 䈀漀戀戀礀✀猀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 戀攀 搀爀椀瘀椀渀最ഊhim to try to exert control over kitchen situations. If indeed he is, ਀漀爀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀猀 洀愀渀愀最攀搀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀猀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 椀猀ഊat least understandable, if not always appropriate. He's someone for ਀眀栀漀洀 戀愀搀 搀攀挀椀猀椀漀渀ⴀ洀愀欀椀渀最 攀焀甀愀琀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 戀愀渀欀爀甀瀀琀挀礀Ⰰ 甀渀攀洀瀀氀漀礀洀攀渀琀Ⰰഊhomelessness, no braces for the kids, no GI Joe with the kung fu grip ਀漀渀 䐀攀挀攀洀戀攀爀 ㈀㔀琀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 昀椀猀挀愀氀 洀愀礀栀攀洀⸀ 䤀渀 猀栀漀爀琀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀ഊbe feared. He has no concept of shires-that-oughtta-be-baronies with ਀挀漀洀昀礀 戀愀渀欀 愀挀挀漀甀渀琀猀 㬀ⴀ⤀ ⠀椀渀 挀愀猀攀 礀漀甀 洀椀猀猀攀搀 椀琀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 㬀ⴀ⤀ ⤀ഊto cushion the group from the occasional logical mishap, and he also ਀瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 椀猀 渀攀眀 琀漀 琀栀攀 椀搀攀愀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀 最漀愀氀 漀昀 愀氀氀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 琀漀ഊlearn, teach, and have fun doing it. What his view of historical ਀爀攀挀爀攀愀琀椀漀渀 椀渀 愀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 猀攀琀琀椀渀最 椀猀Ⰰ 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 愀渀 椀猀猀甀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀漀 洀攀Ⰰ 椀琀ഊseems a less important one as far as behavioral impetus goes. In ਀猀栀漀爀琀Ⰰ 栀攀 洀攀愀渀猀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 漀爀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 椀昀 椀琀✀猀 愀氀氀 愀渀 攀最漀 琀爀椀瀀Ⰰ 椀琀 琀愀欀攀猀ഊthe form of feeling good because he helped your shire, so in the end ਀琀栀攀 攀昀昀攀挀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀⸀ 䠀攀 眀愀渀琀猀 眀栀愀琀✀猀 戀攀猀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀瀀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀ഊdisagreement lies in what that is. ਀ഊNow, I'm not defending his attitude (remember that guy at one of the ਀爀攀挀攀渀琀 匀漀甀琀栀攀爀渀 刀攀最椀漀渀 圀愀爀 䌀愀洀瀀猀 眀栀漀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 猀氀椀挀椀渀最 洀甀猀栀爀漀漀洀猀 昀漀爀ഊSunday breakfast, must have assured a roomful of worshipful acolytes ਀漀昀 栀椀猀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 ㄀㠀 琀椀洀攀猀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 䤀 猀琀漀瀀瀀攀搀 瀀愀礀椀渀最ഊattention?), but I've seen that attitude before, probably will see it ਀愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀愀欀攀 愀渀 漀渀最漀椀渀最 攀昀昀漀爀琀 渀漀琀 琀漀 戀攀 最甀椀氀琀礀 漀昀 椀琀 洀礀猀攀氀昀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀ഊam perhaps in a good position to figure out a counter-strike. ਀ഊThe key is to make him understand that there are some important ਀搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 琀礀瀀椀挀愀氀 匀䌀䄀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀渀搀 愀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀ഊkitchen. We don't pay our workers, and can't really have professional ਀攀砀瀀攀挀琀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 愀爀攀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀Ⰰ 栀椀最栀氀礀 猀欀椀氀氀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀漀爀欀 愀猀ഊquickly and as well as pros, while others work like department-store ਀洀愀渀渀攀焀甀椀渀猀 椀渀 猀漀洀攀眀栀愀琀 搀甀戀椀漀甀猀 栀攀愀氀琀栀 愀渀搀 愀 瀀栀椀氀漀猀漀瀀栀椀挀愀氀 甀渀挀攀爀琀愀椀渀琀礀ഊas to the moral rectitude of this feast, hip-deep in cold oatmeal. ਀匀漀洀攀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 洀漀猀琀氀礀 琀漀 猀漀挀椀愀氀椀稀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 甀猀攀ഊyour resources as best you can, preferably without hurting feelings, ਀愀渀搀 猀琀椀氀氀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 樀漀戀 搀漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 礀攀氀氀椀渀最 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 琀漀ഊfire your employees and immediate replace them. ਀ഊSCA kitchens also tend to be, well, unpredictable as to facilities ਀愀渀搀 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀 琀栀愀琀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 眀漀爀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀爀攀 漀昀琀攀渀 渀漀琀 眀攀氀氀ⴀ搀攀猀椀最渀攀搀 昀漀爀ഊthe job at hand (since the temptation for designers to cut costs a ਀戀椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 昀漀爀 猀椀琀攀 漀眀渀攀爀猀 琀漀 昀椀最甀爀攀 椀琀✀猀 漀欀愀礀 琀漀 漀瘀攀爀猀琀爀攀猀猀 琀栀攀ഊfridges, etc., a bit if it's only a few times a year that it's really ਀戀攀椀渀最 甀猀攀搀Ⰰ 椀猀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 漀瘀攀爀眀栀攀氀洀椀渀最⤀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 挀漀甀氀搀 最漀 漀渀 昀漀爀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 甀氀琀椀洀愀琀攀氀礀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 氀椀渀攀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀ഊgoal of a professional restaurateur and that of a cook in the SCA is ਀猀氀椀最栀琀氀礀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 椀渀 猀漀洀攀 眀愀礀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 挀漀渀瘀椀渀挀攀 䈀漀戀戀礀 琀栀愀琀ഊyou want, and in fact need (let's not quibble too much over whether ਀琀栀椀猀 氀愀猀琀 椀猀 猀琀爀椀挀琀氀礀 琀栀攀 琀爀甀琀栀⤀ 栀椀猀 栀攀氀瀀 椀渀 搀漀椀渀最 愀 最漀漀搀 樀漀戀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊclearly define your goal. For example, in the matter of the pig ਀爀漀愀猀琀攀搀 戀礀 琀栀攀 戀甀琀挀栀攀爀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 渀漀琀 漀渀氀礀 挀漀洀洀漀渀ഊperiod practice, but it'll be safely and well-done by a pro at a ਀爀攀愀猀漀渀愀戀氀攀 瀀爀椀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀 琀栀攀渀 氀攀愀瘀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀愀渀琀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀ഊresources (such as ovens or grills, fridges, and most importantly, ਀攀砀琀爀愀 栀愀渀搀猀⤀ 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 猀愀甀挀攀猀Ⰰ 最愀爀渀椀猀栀攀猀Ⰰ 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最Ⰰ 挀氀攀愀渀椀渀最Ⰰഊetc., and this helps assure better overall quality without deviating ਀昀爀漀洀 开琀栀攀 猀琀愀琀攀搀 最漀愀氀开 漀昀 搀漀椀渀最 愀 昀攀愀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀氀礀 昀愀椀琀栀昀甀氀ഊin its final state/end product. ਀ഊIn general, though, I'd say the thing to do is to ask his advice and ਀洀愀欀攀 栀椀洀 昀攀攀氀 眀愀渀琀攀搀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 礀椀攀氀搀椀渀最 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 琀漀 栀椀洀ഊ(which seems to me to be what this is all about). When he gives a ਀瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀Ⰰ 昀攀攀氀 昀爀攀攀 琀漀 愀猀欀 琀栀椀猀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀㨀 ∀䤀渀 眀栀愀琀 眀愀礀 搀漀攀猀ഊthis bring us closer to our goal?" If you want or need a hammer to ਀戀攀愀琀 栀椀洀 眀椀琀栀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀✀猀 椀琀⸀ 䘀椀最栀琀 挀漀洀瀀甀氀猀椀瘀攀 洀愀渀愀最攀洀攀渀琀 眀椀琀栀ഊmanagement: if he can answer that question, fine. If he can't, do it ਀礀漀甀爀 眀愀礀⸀ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 眀愀礀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 挀氀攀愀爀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 渀漀琀 愀ഊmatter of professional dominance. ਀ഊAnother thing you might do is express things in as open-ended a way ਀愀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀⸀ 䐀漀渀✀琀 猀愀礀 琀漀 栀椀洀Ⰰ ∀圀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 眀攀 最漀渀渀愀 搀漀㼀∀Ⰰ 漀爀 攀瘀攀渀 ∀圀栀愀琀ഊshould we do?" Say to him, "What would you advise?", or "We'd like to ਀挀漀渀猀甀氀琀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀 漀渀 堀⸀∀ 吀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 琀攀爀洀猀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀猀 愀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀ഊhearing, but they're also fairly non-binding on you. You have some ਀昀爀攀攀搀漀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀Ⰰ 椀渀 昀漀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 栀椀猀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀氀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 洀愀欀椀渀最ഊyour own decision. ਀ഊI've been lucky in dealing with professionals myself, because most or ਀愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 栀愀搀 琀漀 搀攀愀氀 眀椀琀栀 ⠀渀漀琀 琀漀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 洀礀猀攀氀昀⤀ 栀愀瘀攀ഊhad strong foundations in grunt-work before being given any ਀洀愀渀愀最攀爀椀愀氀 瀀漀猀椀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䤀琀✀猀 渀漀琀 琀栀爀攀愀琀攀渀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀 爀攀愀氀 瀀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀 琀漀ഊslip back into grunt mode when it's needed, and actually fairly ਀爀攀氀愀砀椀渀最 琀漀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀✀猀 渀漀琀 礀漀甀爀 栀攀愀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 戀氀漀挀欀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀漀 猀瀀攀愀欀⸀ഊThe trick, in Bobby's case, is to make him understand that you want ਀栀攀氀瀀 愀渀搀 椀渀瀀甀琀 昀爀漀洀 栀椀洀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 甀渀氀攀猀猀 栀攀✀猀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀愀氀氀礀 戀攀攀渀 瀀甀琀ഊin charge, this does not necessarily extend to management. ਀ഊOh, and you definitely want to hit him with the Larousse ਀䜀愀猀琀爀漀渀漀洀椀焀甀攀Ⰰ 椀昀 愀氀氀 攀氀猀攀 昀愀椀氀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:35:54 -0700 (PDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䠀甀攀琀琀攀 瘀漀渀 䄀栀爀攀渀猀 㰀愀栀爀攀渀猀栀愀瘀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] kitchen tips ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䤀 愀最爀攀攀 眀椀琀栀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 䴀愀爀最愀爀攀琀 猀愀礀猀 栀攀爀攀⸀  䔀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 眀椀琀栀 ⌀㈀⸀  吀攀猀琀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀猀 愀渀搀 戀甀爀渀攀爀猀⸀  䴀愀欀攀 渀漀琀攀猀 漀昀 眀栀椀挀栀 眀漀爀欀猀 愀渀搀 眀栀椀挀栀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 眀漀爀欀⸀ഊWhen negotiating for the use of the hall, insist that all non-working items be fixed _before_ the event. Make it clear that the feast is an important part of the day's events and that if they aren't fixed, a reduction in the hall price will be expected. One month before the event, call and ask if said items are fixed. If they say no, ask again when they will be fixed. If they say yes, call one week before the event and ask for another walk through to test the items and pray that they are fixed as promised. Make back up arrangements just in case. ਀ഊI had one feast where the oven, which had been working, died right in the middle of cooking the feast. The hall had a handyman on site, but he didn't show up to work on the oven until after the feast was over. Fortunately, the second oven was still working and I was able to make some adjustments. ਀ഊHuette ਀ഊ--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Gretchen Beck wrote: ਀ഊ 1. If you are going to use electric appliances (roasters, griddles, ਀昀爀礀攀爀猀Ⰰ 洀椀砀攀爀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 嬀最漀搀 昀漀爀戀椀搀崀 愀 洀椀挀爀漀眀愀瘀攀⤀Ⰰ 挀栀攀挀欀 眀栀椀挀栀 漀甀琀氀攀琀猀 最漀 琀漀 ഊwhich breakers ahead of time. Don't trust what the site says, don't trust ਀眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 漀眀渀攀爀 猀愀礀猀 ⴀⴀ 琀攀猀琀 椀琀 礀漀甀爀猀攀氀昀⸀ 䄀 猀洀愀氀氀 瀀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 昀愀渀 椀猀 最爀攀愀琀 昀漀爀 ഊthis. It's a big help if you can lay out where to plug things in ahead of ਀琀椀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀⠀䤀 挀漀渀昀攀猀猀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀愀欀攀爀 欀攀瀀琀 戀氀漀眀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 爀漀愀猀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 ഊthe oven/stovetop was full, we finished the hoochee in the microwave -- not ਀猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 䤀✀搀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 愀猀 愀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 最漀琀 琀栀攀 樀漀戀 搀漀渀攀 漀渀 ഊtime without really affecting the taste) ਀ഊ 2. In your walkthrough, test the ovens. Turn each one on and see how (and ਀椀昀⤀ 椀琀 栀攀愀琀猀⸀ 䤀昀 椀琀 栀愀猀 愀 瀀椀氀漀琀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 琀漀 氀椀最栀琀 琀栀攀 瀀椀氀漀琀 ഊand turn on the oven. If there is more than one oven, turn them both on ਀琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 ⠀䤀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀洀愀稀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀琀漀爀琀椀漀渀猀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 最漀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀漀 ഊget some site ovens to work properly -- better to know ahead than to end up ਀攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 漀昀⤀ഊ ਀㌀⸀ 䴀攀愀猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀椀搀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀甀渀琀 琀栀攀 漀瘀攀渀 爀愀挀欀猀⸀ 䐀漀渀✀琀 爀攀氀礀 漀渀 ഊyour or the sites baking sheets fitting into the oven. ਀ഊ4. Parchment paper is your friend. Parchment paper is your cleanup crew's ਀昀爀椀攀渀搀⸀ 䄀猀 椀猀 倀䄀䴀⸀ഊ ਀㔀⸀ 䌀漀猀琀挀漀 猀攀氀氀猀 琀栀漀猀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 爀甀戀戀攀爀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 洀愀琀猀 愀琀 爀攀愀猀漀渀愀戀氀攀 瀀爀椀挀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 ഊcan be the difference between walking and limping at the ਀攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀琀漀漀搀氀攀猀Ⰰ 洀愀爀最愀爀攀琀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. Harris headcooks-msg Page 69 of 69 ਀ഊ