fst-entertain-msg - 7/21/07 Entertainment at period and SCA feasts. NOTE: See also the files: feast-decor-msg, feast-serving-msg, p-songs-msg, theater-msg, dance-msg, jesters-msg, bardic-msg, juggling-msg, singing-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:21:01 EDT From: LrdRas at aol.com Subject: SC - Feast entertainment apiskp at yahoo.com writes: << And that's another tiny peeve of mine: I don't think there should be back-to-back entertainment all evening that completely usurps any opportunity for conversa- tion. >> Entertainment at medieval feasts was for the most part in between courses and/or music (*vocal or instrumental) was used as background music. The 'entertainers should not expect to be 'listened' to if they perform during the feast. That is (or was) not their function. The diners should realize they need not listen and continue with their conversations. Ras Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:33:30 +1000 From: Black Jade Subject: Re: SC - Feast entertainment >Entertainment at medieval feasts was for the most part in between courses >and/or music (*vocal or instrumental) was used as background music. The >'entertainers should not expect to be 'listened' to if they perform during >the feast. That is (or was) not their function. The diners should realize >they need not listen and continue with their conversations. I agree with this, both as a listener and an entertainer, (albeit not a very good one). Most of the people in my barony, I think, do it out of courtesy more than expecting a floorshow. But it can get very difficult to get it right when EVERYONE has their attention focused right between your eyes. I usually enjoy myself more when I wander around a feast and croak my tunes at MY leisure, rather than having to wait upon other peoples. Some Tables ask me nicely if I could sing them a somg and it becomes a more private and much more rewarding affair, rather thn people feeling that they are having entertainment rammed down their throats. Just my 2c worth (ducking and running at high speed for the Rock) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:17:33 -0500 From: "Aeddan ap Trahaearn" Subject: Re: SC - Feast entertainment > Entertainment at medieval feasts was for the most part in between > courses and/or music (*vocal or instrumental) was used as background > music. The 'entertainers should not expect to be 'listened' to if they > perform during the feast. That is (or was) not their function. The > diners should realize they need not listen and continue with their > conversations. > > Ras I agree. I think this is why the musicians were seated in a gallery above the hall. So they might be heard but not seen. Aeddan ap Trahaearn Shire of Mooneschadowe Kingdom of Ansteorra Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:17:07 -0500 From: Jadwiga Zajaczkowa / Jenne Heise Subject: [Sca-cooks] Mumming/Theatricals at feasts To: Mauche List , Cooks within the SCA A couple of years ago, I believe there may have been some discussion on the lists about documentation for Theatrical presentations and/or mummings during feasts. Turns out Roy Strong's book _Feast: A history of Grand Eating_ has some descriptions of 15th and 16th century feast mummings and spectacles, especially from pages 123-125, but other descriptions are scattered throughout the book. These include music, dancing, what we would call 'opera' type presentations, a staging of the siege of Jerusalem, and mimed theatricals. -- -- Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika jenne at fiedlerfamily.net Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:52:38 -0500 From: "Elaine Koogler" Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Mumming/Theatricals at feasts To: jenne at fiedlerfamily.net, "Cooks within the SCA" When our Barony hosted Twelfth Night last year, I tried to do something of the sort. The theme was the elements...so I had four people, one representing each element who did a presentation during the feast...each one introduced a course. I had them wearing a kind of tabard, mask and circlet of leaves/flowers/etc. in the colors of the element...and one of our poetry laurels wrote some wonderful verses that each "element" read. It seemed to go off very well. Kiri On 1/18/07, Jadwiga Zajaczkowa / Jenne Heise wrote: > A couple of years ago, I believe there may have been some discussion on > the lists about documentation for Theatrical presentations and/or > mummings during feasts. Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:52:59 -0500 From: "Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius" Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Mumming/Theatricals at feasts To: jenne at fiedlerfamily.net, Cooks within the SCA On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Jadwiga Zajaczkowa / Jenne Heise wrote: > A couple of years ago, I believe there may have been some discussion on > the lists about documentation for Theatrical presentations and/or > mummings during feasts. > > Turns out Roy Strong's book _Feast: A history of Grand Eating_ has some > descriptions of 15th and 16th century feast mummings and spectacles, > especially from pages 123-125, but other descriptions are scattered > throughout the book. These include music, dancing, what we would call > 'opera' type presentations, a staging of the siege of Jerusalem, and > mimed theatricals. There may be a smattering of info on this in Nichola Fletcher's "Charlemagne's Tablecloth", too. I've got a copy here that I haven't yet read, but it alleges to cover much the same ground... Adamantius Edited by Mark S. Harris fst-entertain-msg Page 3 of 3