sports-msg - 12/13/09 ਀ഊMedieval sports. Hurley, shinty, battledore. Book reviews. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: games-msg, Helga-Ball-msg, darts-msg, games-SCA-msg, Brf-Lok-Tennis-art, golf-msg, wintr-sports-lnks, Golf-Med-Era-art, Stool-ball-art, Curling-art. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀  栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀  栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀  愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀  漀昀  攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀  眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀  眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀  洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀  眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀  渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀  愀猀  琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀  漀昀  琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀  最椀瘀攀渀  戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀  爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀  愀渀搀  攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀  琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀  琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀  挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀  漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀  椀猀  甀渀挀氀攀愀爀  愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀  椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀  椀猀  瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀  昀爀漀洀  琀栀攀猀攀  洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: ak508 at cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Raymond Benne) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㔀 一漀瘀 㤀㄀   㨀 㘀㨀㈀㠀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) ਀ഊIn a previous article, grm+ at andrew.cmu.edu (Gretchen Miller) says: ਀㸀䤀✀瘀攀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 椀渀琀漀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 最愀洀攀猀Ⰰ 戀漀琀栀 愀琀栀攀氀攀琀椀挀 愀渀搀ഊ>otherwise. Unfortunately, aside from "The Compleat Gamester", which is ਀㸀愀戀漀甀琀 ㈀  礀攀愀爀猀 漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 昀攀眀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 昀漀漀琀戀愀氀氀Ⰰ 戀漀眀氀椀渀最Ⰰഊ>tennis, and various card and dice games, I have been able to find very ਀㸀氀椀琀琀氀攀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀䈀攀猀椀搀攀猀 䴀愀猀琀攀爀 匀愀洀愀氀氀甀栀✀猀 ⠀瀀氀攀愀猀攀 瀀愀爀搀漀渀 琀栀攀 洀愀渀最氀攀搀 猀瀀攀氀氀椀渀最⤀ 戀漀漀欀Ⰰഊ>does anyone know of any good secondary or primary sources for games ਀㸀搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀猀㼀  䤀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀椀渀最 挀愀爀搀Ⰰ 搀椀挀攀 愀渀搀 愀琀栀氀攀琀椀挀 最愀洀攀猀ഊ>(outside of tourney/fencing/martial arts)? Want to share ਀㸀爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀⼀椀搀攀愀猀⼀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀㼀ഊ> ਀㸀琀漀漀搀氀攀猀Ⰰ 洀愀爀最愀爀攀琀 洀愀挀搀甀戀栀猀椀搀栀攀ഊ ਀䜀漀漀搀 䴀椀 䰀愀搀礀㬀 䤀昀 䤀 洀愀礀 爀攀挀挀漀洀攀渀搀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 愀琀 倀氀愀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䄀最攀猀ഊTeresa McLean - Kensal Press ਀⠀䬀攀渀猀愀氀 倀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ 匀栀漀漀琀攀爀 䰀漀搀最攀Ⰰ 圀椀渀搀猀漀爀 䘀漀爀攀猀琀Ⰰ 䈀攀爀欀猀⤀ഊ ਀䌀漀渀琀攀渀琀猀 昀漀氀氀漀眀ഊ ਀㄀⤀ 伀甀琀 漀昀 䐀漀漀爀猀ഊ2) Animal Sports ਀㌀⤀ 䠀甀渀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 䠀愀眀欀椀渀最 愀渀搀 䘀椀猀栀椀渀最ഊ4) Tournaments, Jousts and Tilts ਀㔀⤀ 伀甀琀搀漀漀爀 愀渀搀 䠀漀甀猀攀 愀渀搀 䜀愀爀搀攀渀 䜀愀洀攀猀ഊ6) Board, Table ਀㜀⤀ 䜀氀攀攀Ⰰ 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䴀甀猀椀挀Ⰰ 匀椀渀最椀渀最 愀渀搀 䐀愀渀挀椀渀最ഊ8) Medieval Drama ਀㤀⤀ 䘀漀氀欀 䜀愀洀攀猀ഊ ਀圀栀椀氀攀 䤀 挀愀渀 渀漀琀 猀瀀攀愀欀 昀漀爀 椀琀猀 愀甀琀栀攀渀琀椀挀椀琀礀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀栀漀爀 搀漀攀猀 栀漀氀搀 愀 倀䠀䐀 椀渀 ഊin Medieval Monsatic Economics from Trinity College, Cambridge ਀ഊShe is also the author of Medieval English Gardens ਀ഊMiles Ravenslock d'Arcy ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䐀爀愀最漀渀 琀栀爀漀渀攀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: greg at bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Greg Rose) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Chinese - yes or no ?? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㤀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㌀ ㄀㘀㨀 㠀㨀㄀㌀ ⴀ 㐀  ഊOrganization: MIT LCS guest machine ਀ഊFiacha writes: ਀ഊ>I do not know of any Mongol games so I make no judgement in that area. ਀ഊThe two principal Mongol games of which I am aware are Nishapur and ਀刀甀最ⴀ戀礀 ⠀戀甀琀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 愀渀 䄀戀戀愀猀椀搀 愀渀搀 愀 挀愀瘀愀氀爀礀 琀甀爀洀愀 琀漀 瀀氀愀礀 琀栀攀 氀愀琀琀攀爀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀猀猀攀椀渀⼀䜀爀攀最ഊ ਀ഊFrom: corun at access.digex.net (Corun MacAnndra) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Chinese - yes or no ?? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㤀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㌀ ㄀㤀㨀 㠀㨀㈀㠀 ⴀ 㐀  ഊOrganization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA ਀ഊIn article <20q7fd$2o0 at bronze.lcs.mit.edu> greg at bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Greg Rose) writes: ਀㸀䘀椀愀挀栀愀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>>I do not know of any Mongol games so I make no judgement in that area. ਀㸀ഊ>The two principal Mongol games of which I am aware are Nishapur and ਀㸀刀甀最ⴀ戀礀 ⠀戀甀琀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 愀渀 䄀戀戀愀猀椀搀 愀渀搀 愀 挀愀瘀愀氀爀礀 琀甀爀洀愀 琀漀 瀀氀愀礀 琀栀攀 氀愀琀琀攀爀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 䄀欀氀愀最栀 吀愀爀琀攀攀猀栀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀猀 氀漀漀猀攀氀礀 愀猀 ∀瀀椀挀欀椀渀最ഊup sheep at a gallop." No, really. ਀ഊIn service, ਀䌀漀爀甀渀ഊ============================================================================== ਀    䌀漀爀甀渀 䴀愀挀䄀渀渀搀爀愀    簀 䜀漀搀 爀甀渀猀 攀氀攀挀琀爀漀洀愀最渀攀琀椀挀猀 漀渀 䴀漀渀⸀Ⰰ 圀攀搀⸀ 愀渀搀 䘀爀椀⸀ 戀礀ഊ Dark Horde by birth | the wave theory and the Devil runs it by quantum ਀    䴀漀爀椀琀甀 戀礀 挀栀漀椀挀攀   簀 琀栀攀漀爀礀 吀甀攀⸀Ⰰ 吀栀甀爀⸀ 愀渀搀 匀愀琀⸀ ⴀⴀ 匀椀爀 圀洀⸀ 䈀爀愀最最ഊ ਀ഊFrom: adelekta at kentvm.kent.edu ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Chinese - yes or no ?? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㌀  䨀甀渀 㤀㌀ ㄀㌀㨀 㜀㨀 ㌀ 䔀匀吀ഊOrganization: Kent State Univ. ਀ഊcorun at access.digex.net (Corun MacAnndra) writes: ਀㸀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 䄀欀氀愀最栀 吀愀爀琀攀攀猀栀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀猀 氀漀漀猀攀氀礀 愀猀 ∀瀀椀挀欀椀渀最ഊ>up sheep at a gallop." No, really. ਀ ഊ This sounds remarkably similar to bozkashi, a central asian game whose name ਀琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀猀 愀猀 ∀最漀愀琀 挀愀琀挀栀⸀∀  吀栀攀猀攀 氀椀瘀攀猀琀漀挀欀 最愀洀攀猀 猀漀甀渀搀 氀椀欀攀 愀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 挀漀洀洀漀渀ഊnomadic pastime... :) ਀ ഊ-Zimra al-Ghaziyah ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 栀爀樀漀渀攀猀 愀琀 甀挀氀椀渀欀⸀戀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䠀攀愀琀栀攀爀 刀漀猀攀 䨀漀渀攀猀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䜀愀攀氀椀挀 匀瀀漀爀琀ഊDate: 18 Jun 1996 04:07:39 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䌀愀氀椀昀漀爀渀椀愀Ⰰ 䈀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀ഊ ਀䌀䈀㌀㘀㐀㜀㠀 ⠀挀戀㌀㘀㐀㜀㠀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ: Anyone know the orgins of modern gaelic sport. Hurling, gaelic football, ਀㨀 栀愀渀搀戀愀氀氀㼀  䈀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀椀挀愀氀 猀漀甀爀挀攀㼀ഊ ਀䤀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 琀漀 愀 猀瀀漀爀琀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀搀 愀猀 ∀栀甀爀氀攀礀∀ 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊmedieval tale of Cuchulain -- I'm not familiar enough with the modern ਀猀瀀漀爀琀 琀漀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 挀氀漀猀攀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀 猀攀攀洀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀栀愀渀挀攀猀 愀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 猀漀洀攀眀栀攀爀攀 椀渀ഊsome Irish journal there will be at least one in-depth article on the ਀猀甀戀樀攀挀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 愀渀礀 洀漀爀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀 瀀漀椀渀琀攀爀猀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀愀琀⸀ഊ ਀吀愀渀最眀礀猀琀礀氀 瘀攀爀挀栀 䴀漀爀最愀渀琀 䜀氀愀猀瘀爀礀渀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 瘀椀欀椀渀最 最愀洀攀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀洀瀀攀琀椀琀椀漀渀猀㼀ഊFrom: priestdo at cs.vassar.edu (Greg Priest-Dorman) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㈀ 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㌀ ㄀㈀㨀㈀㔀㨀㄀㠀 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀䤀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 㰀㄀㤀㤀㌀䐀攀挀㈀ ⸀㄀㔀㈀㌀㄀㠀⸀㈀㔀㠀 㤀 愀琀 戀猀甀ⴀ甀挀猀㸀   洀樀猀琀甀洀 愀琀 氀攀漀⸀戀猀甀瘀挀⸀戀猀甀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䴀愀琀琀栀攀眀 䨀⸀ 匀琀甀洀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ ਀   伀琀栀攀爀 琀礀瀀攀猀 漀昀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 渀漀琀 猀甀椀琀愀戀氀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 愀爀攀ഊ ... stone lifting/tossing. ਀ഊI have some very nice memories, and no scars or bruses, from a rock ਀琀栀爀漀眀椀渀最 挀漀洀瀀攀琀椀琀椀漀渀 愀琀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀 愀 昀攀眀 礀攀愀爀猀 戀愀挀欀 ⴀ 挀漀洀攀 琀漀 琀栀椀渀欀 漀昀ഊit, I believe it was an MSR event, not SCA but either way, if you ਀栀愀瘀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 爀漀漀洀 昀漀爀 愀爀挀栀攀爀礀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 爀漀漀洀 昀漀爀 爀漀挀欀 琀栀爀漀眀椀渀最ഊ(less room? - use a bigger rock) It was interesting watching "styles" ਀攀瘀漀氀瘀攀⸀  䤀昀 䤀 爀攀挀愀氀氀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀渀攀爀 琀漀猀猀攀搀 猀琀愀爀琀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 愀 挀爀漀甀挀栀攀搀ഊposition with his back to the line, throwing over his head, keeping ਀栀椀猀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 琀栀攀 氀椀渀攀℀  䄀渀礀眀愀礀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀愀猀 愀氀漀琀 漀昀 昀甀渀 琀漀 搀漀 愀渀搀 眀愀琀挀栀⸀ഊ ਀䤀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 爀攀昀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 爀漀挀欀 琀栀爀漀眀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 渀漀爀琀栀 ⠀䤀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀愀琀 最椀愀渀琀ഊchucked a rock at Thor once but that's about it)? ਀ ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: nostrand at bayes.math.yorku.ca (Barbara Nostrand) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 琀攀渀渀椀猀Ⰰ 愀渀礀漀渀攀⸀⸀⸀㼀ഊOrganization: York University ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀   㨀 㜀㨀㄀㄀ 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀一漀戀氀攀 䌀漀甀猀椀渀猀℀ഊ ਀䄀爀戀攀愀甀 椀渀 伀爀挀栀攀漀猀最爀愀瀀栀礀 ⠀猀瀀⤀ 愀氀猀漀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀愀氀氀礀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀猀 琀攀渀渀椀猀 愀猀 愀 瀀愀猀琀椀洀攀ഊplayed by young men. He says that there are 3 pastimes for young men: ਀吀攀渀渀椀猀Ⰰ 䘀攀渀挀椀渀最 愀渀搀 䐀愀渀挀椀渀最 愀渀搀 漀渀氀礀 䐀愀渀挀椀渀最 椀猀 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀 琀漀 搀漀 愀爀漀甀渀搀ഊand with young ladies. ਀ഊ Your Humble Servant ਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ匀漀氀瘀攀椀最 吀栀爀漀渀搀愀爀搀漀琀琀椀爀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Russ Gilman-Hunt ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Gaelic Sport ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀  㜀㨀  㨀 ㄀ ⴀ 㜀  ഊOrganization: University of Oregon Portland Center ਀ഊHeather Rose Jones wrote: ਀㸀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 琀漀 愀 猀瀀漀爀琀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀搀 愀猀 ∀栀甀爀氀攀礀∀ 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊ> medieval tale of Cuchulain -- ਀ഊ(snip) ਀ഊ> ਀㸀 吀愀渀最眀礀猀琀礀氀 瘀攀爀挀栀 䴀漀爀最愀渀琀 䜀氀愀猀瘀爀礀渀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀 椀昀 䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀氀礀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 戀愀氀氀 愀渀搀 愀 猀琀椀挀欀⸀  ഊAlthough according to Charles Squire's _Celtic_Myths_And_Legends_, the ਀戀愀氀氀 眀愀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀椀稀攀 漀昀 愀 栀甀洀愀渀 戀爀愀椀渀 愀渀搀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 栀愀爀搀⸀  䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 昀椀渀搀 ഊthe exact page right now, but it was a pretty gruesome detail that ਀栀愀瀀瀀攀渀攀搀 琀漀 猀琀椀挀欀 椀渀 洀礀Ⰰ 甀栀Ⰰ 渀攀瘀攀爀 洀椀渀搀⸀  㬀⤀ഊ ਀䰀漀爀搀 䌀漀渀挀栀漀戀栀愀爀 漀昀 䬀愀洀爀甀渀 ⠀䌀氀愀渀 䴀愀挀䜀甀椀渀渀攀猀猀⤀ 圀⸀伀⸀䄀⸀圀⸀℀ഊRuss_Gilman-Hunt at continue.uoregon.edu ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 吀栀攀 匀栀爀攀眀 㰀猀栀爀攀眀 愀琀 瀀椀漀渀攀攀爀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䜀愀攀氀椀挀 匀瀀漀爀琀ഊDate: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:27:12 -0700 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 匀栀爀攀眀猀戀甀爀礀 刀攀渀愀椀猀猀愀渀挀攀 䘀愀椀爀攀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 最愀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䌀攀氀琀猀 瀀氀愀礀 愀琀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 刀攀渀 䘀愀椀爀攀猀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀ഊdone, with a ball and a stick...but they call it something like "shinty". ਀ 䤀 挀愀渀 琀爀甀琀栀昀甀氀氀礀 猀愀礀Ⰰ 愀昀琀攀爀 眀愀琀挀栀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀甀爀瘀椀瘀漀爀猀 挀爀愀眀氀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀攀氀搀Ⰰഊthat there are no brains involved....either with the equipment or the ਀瀀氀愀礀攀爀猀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀琀攀攀 栀攀攀⸀  猀漀爀爀礀⸀  䐀漀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 漀渀攀㼀  伀爀 椀猀ഊit the same game with a different name? Just curious. ਀ഊPlay Faire! ਀琀栀攀 匀栀爀攀眀   縀縀縀縀⠀ 㠀㨀㸀ഊShrewsbury Renaissance Faire ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 猀⸀欀爀漀猀猀愀 愀琀 愀戀攀爀搀攀攀渀⸀愀挀⸀甀欀 ⠀匀栀愀爀漀渀 䬀爀漀猀猀愀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䜀愀攀氀椀挀 匀瀀漀爀琀ഊDate: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 21:43:46 +0000 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 倀栀甀琀甀爀攀 倀栀甀䐀猀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 匀栀爀攀眀 㰀猀栀爀攀眀 愀琀 瀀椀漀渀攀攀爀⸀渀攀琀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>There is a game that the Celts play at most of the Ren Faires I have ਀㸀搀漀渀攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 戀愀氀氀 愀渀搀 愀 猀琀椀挀欀⸀⸀⸀戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 挀愀氀氀 椀琀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 氀椀欀攀 ∀猀栀椀渀琀礀∀⸀ഊ> I can truthfully say, after watching the survivors crawl off the field, ਀㸀琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 渀漀 戀爀愀椀渀猀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀搀⸀⸀⸀⸀攀椀琀栀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀 漀爀 琀栀攀ഊ>players.....tee hee. sorry. Do you know anything about this one? Or is ਀㸀椀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 最愀洀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 渀愀洀攀㼀  䨀甀猀琀 挀甀爀椀漀甀猀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀琀栀攀 匀栀爀攀眀   縀縀縀縀⠀ 㠀㨀㸀ഊ>Shrewsbury Renaissance Faire ਀ഊThe modern Irish play a game with ball & sticks called hurling, while the ਀洀漀搀攀爀渀 匀挀漀琀琀椀猀栀 䜀愀攀氀猀 瀀氀愀礀 愀 最愀洀攀 眀椀琀栀 戀愀氀氀 ☀ 猀琀椀挀欀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀Ⰰ 椀渀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 漀爀ഊScots, shinty, and in Gaelic either camanachd (according to the TV sports ਀爀攀瀀漀爀琀⤀ 漀爀 椀漀洀愀椀渀 ⠀愀挀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 琀漀 洀礀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 匀挀漀琀琀椀猀栀 䜀愀攀氀椀挀 搀椀挀琀椀漀渀愀爀椀攀猀Ⰰഊwhere, at least to the Scots, hurling/hurley is called iomain Eireannach). ਀吀栀攀 猀琀椀挀欀⼀挀氀甀戀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 猀栀椀渀琀礀Ⰰ 栀甀爀氀攀礀Ⰰ 漀爀 最漀氀昀Ⰰ 椀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 ⠀椀渀 洀漀搀攀爀渀ഊScottish Gaelic) a 'caman'. I have no idea what the game was called in ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 琀攀爀洀 猀栀椀渀琀礀 漀渀氀礀 猀栀漀眀猀 甀瀀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ㄀㠀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 椀渀 匀挀漀琀猀Ⰰഊand there isn't a historical dictionary of Scottish Gaelic available just ਀礀攀琀⸀ഊ ਀匀栀椀渀琀礀 椀猀 瘀愀最甀攀氀礀 氀椀欀攀 昀椀攀氀搀 栀漀挀欀攀礀 椀渀 渀愀琀甀爀攀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 搀愀渀最攀爀 琀漀 氀椀昀攀ഊand limb is apparently higher in shinty ;-) ਀ഊEffric neyn Cannich vic Herrald ਀洀欀愀 匀栀愀爀漀渀 䬀爀漀猀猀愀Ⰰ 眀栀漀 栀愀猀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 琀栀攀 漀搀搀 昀爀椀攀渀搀氀礀 愀琀 唀匀 刀攀渀⸀ 䘀愀椀爀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊwouldn't dare even suggest the idea of her playing the game in Scotland... ਀ഊSharon Krossa: skrossa at svpal.org (permanent) ਀ⴀ漀爀ⴀ 猀⸀欀爀漀猀猀愀 愀琀 愀戀攀爀搀攀攀渀⸀愀挀⸀甀欀 ⠀甀渀琀椀氀 一漀瘀攀洀戀攀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Ian Gourdon mka Dan Stratton ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Period games and sports - children and adult ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ  㔀 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㄀㠀㨀㈀㠀㨀㌀㜀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊOrganization: Glen Awe Enterprises, a Division of Yoyodine ਀ഊMark Waks wrote: ਀㸀 㸀吀攀渀渀椀猀 愀渀搀 挀爀漀焀甀攀琀 愀爀攀 戀漀琀栀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 琀漀搀愀礀✀猀 琀攀渀渀椀猀 爀愀挀欀攀琀ഊ> >can pass for period though. ਀㸀 ഊ> Tennis *is* period, although it's changed a bit. Where do you find ਀㸀 挀爀漀焀甀攀琀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀㼀 䜀愀洀攀猀 猀漀爀琀愀 瘀愀最甀攀氀礀 氀椀欀攀 挀爀漀焀甀攀琀 攀砀椀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀ഊ> (indeed, billiards began as a tabletop variant of them), but croquet ਀㸀 愀猀 眀攀 欀渀漀眀 椀琀 眀愀猀Ⰰ 䤀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀Ⰰ 椀渀瘀攀渀琀攀搀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 ㄀㠀㈀ 椀猀栀⸀⸀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 ⠀䤀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 挀愀洀攀 愀挀爀漀猀猀 愀 戀漀漀欀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 琀栀愀琀 最愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 渀愀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊ> fellow who invented the game, but I don't remember off the top of ਀㸀 洀礀 栀攀愀搀 眀栀椀挀栀 戀漀漀欀 椀琀 眀愀猀 椀渀⸀⸀⸀⤀ഊ> ਀㸀                                 ⴀⴀ 䨀甀猀琀椀渀ഊ ਀䜀✀搀愀礀 䨀甀猀琀椀渀ⰀഊI've played tennis with the Jamestown Fort reinactors, which is barely ਀瀀漀猀琀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 最漀漀搀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 挀漀甀氀搀ഊcomment on technical details. The main differences are; the feather ਀猀琀甀昀昀攀搀 栀漀洀攀ⴀ洀愀搀攀 琀攀渀渀椀猀 戀愀氀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 爀愀焀甀攀琀猀 愀爀攀渀✀琀 琀攀渀猀椀漀渀攀搀 渀攀愀爀氀礀ഊas highly as modern ones... ਀ഊIan Gourdon ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀洀漀甀琀栀 愀琀 攀甀挀氀椀搀⸀攀攀挀猀⸀甀洀椀挀栀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䐀愀渀椀攀氀 䐀愀洀漀甀琀栀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䄀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 戀愀琀琀氀攀搀漀爀攀㼀ഊDate: 4 Mar 1997 05:47:40 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䴀椀挀栀椀最愀渀Ⰰ 䄀渀渀 䄀爀戀漀爀Ⰰ 䴀椀挀栀椀最愀渀Ⰰ 唀匀䄀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 昀甀渀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀 䤀 猀愀眀 愀琀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀 眀愀猀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 戀愀搀洀椀渀琀漀渀Ⰰഊcalled battledore I believe. It's playing with wooden paddle-like things ਀愀渀搀 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 搀攀愀搀 戀愀氀氀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀⸀  䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀攀 爀甀氀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀爀攀ഊtaught at that event, I think, but it would be better if someone more ਀攀砀瀀攀爀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 挀漀洀攀 昀漀爀琀栀 愀渀搀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀礀⸀ ഊ ਀䤀渀 昀愀挀琀Ⰰ 椀昀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀 琀栀攀 爀甀氀攀猀 琀漀 洀攀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 瘀攀爀礀 洀甀挀栀 ഊappreciate it and might even act as facilitator for battledore in my ਀爀攀最椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀⸀   䤀 氀漀瘀攀 椀琀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀ഊlost a match :) ਀ഊI hereby issue challenge to all battledore champions. Let me know ਀眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 戀愀琀琀氀攀搀漀爀攀 琀漀甀爀渀攀礀 愀渀搀 䤀 猀栀愀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 琀漀 ഊattend and face you. ਀ഊ-Daniel of Cynnabar, who is competing in a badminton tournament ਀琀栀椀猀 眀攀攀欀攀渀搀 㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 栀氀昀 愀琀 栀漀氀洀攀猀⸀愀挀挀⸀嘀椀爀最椀渀椀愀⸀䔀䐀唀 ⠀䠀 䰀⸀ 䘀愀氀氀猀⤀ഊSubject: Re: Anyone have sources for battledore? ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 嘀椀爀最椀渀椀愀ഊDate: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:52:04 GMT ਀ഊDaniel Damouth wrote: ਀㸀伀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 昀甀渀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀 䤀 猀愀眀 愀琀 愀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀 眀愀猀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 戀愀搀洀椀渀琀漀渀Ⰰഊ>called battledore I believe. It's playing with wooden paddle-like things ਀㸀愀渀搀 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 搀攀愀搀 戀愀氀氀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀爀琀⸀  䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀攀 爀甀氀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀爀攀ഊ>taught at that event, I think, but it would be better if someone more ਀㸀攀砀瀀攀爀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 挀漀洀攀 昀漀爀琀栀 愀渀搀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀礀⸀ ഊ> ਀㸀䤀渀 昀愀挀琀Ⰰ 椀昀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀 琀栀攀 爀甀氀攀猀 琀漀 洀攀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 瘀攀爀礀 洀甀挀栀 ഊ>appreciate it and might even act as facilitator for battledore in my ਀㸀爀攀最椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀⸀   䤀 氀漀瘀攀 椀琀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀ഊ>lost a match :) ਀ഊ Someone around here introduced a similar-sounding game which he ਀挀愀氀氀猀 ∀欀椀渀最氀礀 戀愀琀猀∀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 ⠀昀爀漀洀 眀栀愀琀 栀攀 猀愀椀搀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 ഊdocumentation to hand -- sorry) he adapted from a Norse game/shield ਀瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 戀甀挀欀氀攀爀⼀猀洀愀氀氀 猀栀椀攀氀搀 戀愀琀猀 ⠀爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 挀攀渀琀攀爀 ഊ(strap) grip, about a foot in diameter) and a hollow-plastic toy ਀戀愀猀攀戀愀氀氀⸀  ⠀匀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀氀礀 琀栀攀 一漀爀猀攀 甀猀攀搀 猀洀愀氀氀 爀漀挀欀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀 搀漀 瀀氀攀渀琀礀 ഊof damage to ourselves with the baseball!) ਀ഊ I don't know if this is anything like the game you have in mind, ਀戀甀琀 洀愀礀戀攀 椀琀✀氀氀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 愀 猀琀愀爀琀椀渀最 瀀漀椀渀琀⸀  䤀 挀愀渀 琀爀礀 琀漀 最攀琀 椀渀 ഊtouch with him for more information, if you like. ਀ഊ>-Daniel of Cynnabar ਀ഊ--Landi Haraldsson ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䄀渀搀爀攀眀 吀礀攀 㰀愀琀礀攀 愀琀 攀昀渀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 䰀漀渀最戀愀氀氀ഊDate: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:44:13 -0800 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 伀爀攀最漀渀 倀甀戀氀椀挀 一攀琀眀漀爀欀椀渀最ഊ ਀伀渀 㔀 䴀愀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀Ⰰ 䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀 一攀眀琀漀渀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I read once in a history of baseball of a game known as viking Longball, ਀㸀 琀栀攀 漀戀樀攀挀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀 眀愀猀 琀漀 栀椀琀 愀 戀愀氀氀 漀瘀攀爀 愀 氀椀渀攀⸀ 䌀愀渀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 搀椀爀攀挀琀 ഊ> me to some more detailed rules? ਀㸀 ഊ> Thorbjorn Bjornson ਀ഊWe used to play a game called Norse Stickball here in An Tir. The rules ਀栀愀搀 戀攀攀渀 爀攀挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀攀搀 戀礀 猀漀洀攀 最攀渀琀氀攀 戀愀挀欀 椀渀 琀栀攀 攀愀爀氀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 眀攀爀攀ഊpublished in one the back issues of the Elf Hill Times. Unfortunately, I ਀搀漀 渀漀琀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀椀挀栀 漀渀攀⸀  吀栀攀 最愀洀攀 眀愀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀 漀渀攀 琀栀攀ഊmain events at the Egil Skallagrimsonar Memorial Tourney that our barony ਀栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 栀漀猀琀椀渀最 昀漀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㈀㈀ 礀攀愀爀猀 渀漀眀⸀  䤀琀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 挀愀渀挀攀氀氀攀搀⼀戀愀渀渀攀搀Ⰰ 䤀ഊbelieve, because of liability concerns at the Kingdom level. (A couple of ਀琀栀攀 爀甀氀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 眀攀爀攀㨀  䬀愀爀愀琀攀 戀氀漀眀猀 眀攀爀攀 搀椀猀挀漀甀爀愀最攀搀⸀  䄀氀氀 戀漀搀礀ഊparts removed must be returned to their owners at the end of the game.) ਀吀栀攀 琀眀漀 琀攀愀洀猀 ⠀猀栀椀爀琀猀⼀猀欀椀渀猀⤀ 最漀琀 琀漀 搀椀瘀椀搀攀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 欀攀琀琀氀攀 漀昀 䄀琀栀漀氀戀爀漀猀攀 愀琀ഊthe end of the game. If I look/ask around I can probably find the ਀挀椀琀愀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 爀甀氀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀瘀愀爀 䠀愀欀漀渀愀爀猀漀渀ഊAdiantum, An Tir. ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: mondsee at idirect.com (Dana Cushing) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䈀伀唀娀䬀䠀䄀匀䠀䤀 㴀 匀栀攀攀瀀 刀甀最戀礀ഊDate: 13 Mar 97 01:51:09 UTC ਀ഊSteve Smith wrote: ਀㸀 伀渀挀攀 唀瀀漀渀 䄀 吀椀洀攀Ⰰ 䤀 栀攀愀爀搀 愀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 愀 猀瀀漀爀琀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 ∀猀栀攀攀瀀 爀甀最戀礀∀⸀ഊ> I would appreciate it very much if someone could provide me with a ਀㸀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀⼀漀爀 猀攀琀 漀昀 爀甀氀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀 渀漀戀氀攀 猀瀀漀爀琀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀       ⴀⴀ 䔀琀椀攀渀渀攀ഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 最漀漀搀 挀椀琀礀 漀昀 䔀漀昀漀爀眀椀挀欀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 最愀洀攀ഊfor two generations... the original sheep "Murphy" and his offspring ਀∀䄀氀猀漀 䴀甀爀瀀栀礀∀⸀  㬀⤀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 爀甀氀攀猀 昀漀爀 瀀氀愀礀椀渀最 漀渀 昀漀漀琀 愀猀 眀攀 猀攀攀 椀琀㨀ഊ ਀䔀猀琀愀戀氀椀猀栀 琀眀漀 瀀漀氀攀猀 愀 最漀漀搀氀礀 樀漀最 愀瀀愀爀琀 ⴀ 攀愀挀栀 琀攀愀洀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 漀渀攀 ⠀挀漀氀漀爀攀搀ഊflags help) ਀倀氀愀挀攀 猀栀攀攀瀀 椀渀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 椀渀 挀椀爀挀氀攀ഊScrum for sheep ਀刀甀渀 琀漀眀愀爀搀 漀瀀漀渀攀渀琀✀猀 瀀漀氀攀ഊOponent try to grab sheep and run it round the other way ਀⠀倀氀攀愀猀攀 渀漀琀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 愀戀漀瘀攀 椀猀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀氀礀 漀瀀琀椀漀渀愀氀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀⸀⸀⸀⤀ഊOnce the sheep has done a figure-8 the idea is to place it back in the centre ਀⠀琀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀 猀栀漀爀琀攀爀 漀渀攀 挀愀渀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 瀀氀愀礀 琀栀攀ഊhead-for-the-oponent's-pole-and-loop-around-to-ours version) ਀ഊThe reason this is so much fun is that it's completely unpredictable ਀甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 猀栀攀攀瀀 栀椀琀猀 琀栀攀 最漀愀氀⸀  吀栀攀 昀愀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀爀攀 栀椀琀Ⰰഊganged up on, etc. just adds to the excitement. ਀ഊThe game was apparently afghani sheep polo originally. ਀ഊLudende bene! ਀䄀甀猀琀爀攀挀栀椀氀搀ഊ ਀⠀倀匀⸀⸀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 愀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 戀礀 愀 氀漀挀愀氀 ⠀㼀⤀ 椀渀 吀䤀 猀漀洀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀最漀 ⴀഊI highly recommend it for a more detailed version.) ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀瘀椀搀⸀爀愀稀氀攀爀 愀琀 眀漀爀氀搀渀攀琀⸀愀琀琀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀䐀愀瘀椀搀 䴀⸀ 刀愀稀氀攀爀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀伀唀娀䬀䠀䄀匀䠀䤀 㴀 匀栀攀攀瀀 刀甀最戀礀ഊDate: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 06:56:38 GMT ਀ഊThe sport, as played in Afghanistan, is more like polo with a vengeance (in ਀昀愀挀琀Ⰰ 猀瀀攀挀琀愀琀漀爀猀 愀爀攀 昀爀攀焀甀攀渀琀氀礀 欀椀氀氀攀搀 愀琀 洀愀琀挀栀攀猀⤀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 漀戀樀攀挀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀猀 礀漀甀爀 琀攀愀洀 漀昀 栀漀爀猀攀洀攀渀 洀愀椀渀琀愀椀渀椀渀最 瀀漀猀猀攀猀猀椀漀渀ഊof a sand-filled goat skin and getting it over a course, while preventing the ਀漀琀栀攀爀 琀攀愀洀 昀爀漀洀 搀漀椀渀最 猀愀洀攀Ⰰ 戀礀 爀漀甀最栀氀礀 愀渀礀 洀攀愀渀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 琀漀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 愀爀洀攀搀ഊonly with a horse. ਀ഊAs I recall, size of the teams is rather large and not fixed, nor is the size ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀攀氀搀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 猀瀀攀挀琀愀琀漀爀猀 最攀琀 爀甀渀 搀漀眀渀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀甀渀渀椀攀猀琀 猀瀀攀攀挀栀攀猀 䤀 攀瘀攀爀 栀攀愀爀搀 挀愀洀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀漀瘀椀攀琀ഊoccupation of Afghanistan, given by former columnist Jack Anderson, who asked ਀栀漀眀 琀栀攀 匀漀瘀椀攀琀猀 ∀攀瘀攀爀 栀漀瀀攀搀 琀漀 挀漀渀琀爀漀氀 愀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀栀漀猀攀 渀愀琀椀漀渀愀氀 猀瀀漀爀琀 椀猀 最漀愀琀ഊdragging?" and proceeded to describe the National Passtime. ਀ഊ dmr/Aleksandr ਀ഊDavid M. Razler ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀爀椀愀渀 䐀漀爀椀漀渀 㰀戀爀椀愀渀⸀搀漀爀椀漀渀㄀ 愀琀 猀礀洀瀀愀琀椀挀漀⸀挀愀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀伀唀娀䬀䠀䄀匀䠀䤀 㴀 匀栀攀攀瀀 刀甀最戀礀ഊDate: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:43:52 -0500 ਀ഊBouzkhashi has a long tradition up here in Ealdormere. It is usually ਀瀀氀愀礀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 愀 猀琀甀昀昀攀搀 猀栀攀攀瀀 ⠀琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 氀漀渀最 氀椀渀攀愀最攀 漀昀 最爀攀愀琀 猀栀攀攀瀀 琀栀愀琀ഊhave given their all for this game!). ਀ഊBouzkhashi is played on a field with three marks. In the center is the ਀栀漀洀攀 瀀氀愀琀攀 愀渀搀 挀氀漀猀攀 琀漀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀礀椀渀最 愀爀攀愀 椀猀 愀 琀攀愀洀 洀愀爀欀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 琀眀漀 琀攀愀洀猀 眀栀漀 愀爀攀 戀漀琀栀 愀爀洀攀搀 昀漀爀 愀爀洀漀甀爀攀搀 挀漀洀戀愀琀⸀  䔀愀挀栀 琀攀愀洀ഊstarts on their marker. The sheep starts on the home plate. ਀ഊThe sheep must be carried around both team markers and be returned to ਀栀漀洀攀 瀀氀愀琀攀⸀  吀栀攀 眀椀渀渀椀渀最 琀攀愀洀 椀猀 琀栀攀 琀攀愀洀 琀栀愀琀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 琀栀攀 猀栀攀攀瀀 甀瀀漀渀 琀栀攀ഊhome plate. It doesn't matter who carries the sheep around the team ਀洀愀爀欀攀爀猀Ⰰ 漀渀氀礀 眀栀漀 瀀甀琀猀 琀栀攀 猀栀攀攀瀀 戀愀挀欀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 栀漀洀攀 瀀氀愀琀攀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 眀愀爀渀椀渀最㨀  䐀漀 渀漀琀 最攀琀 挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 愀眀愀礀 眀椀琀栀 昀椀最栀琀椀渀最⸀  吀漀漀 漀昀琀攀渀 琀攀愀洀  䄀ഊwill notice that while they have been happily murdering team B, a member ਀漀昀 琀攀愀渀 䈀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 挀愀猀甀愀氀氀礀 瀀椀挀欀攀搀 䴀甀爀瀀栀礀 甀瀀Ⰰ 挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 栀椀洀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀ഊteam markers and won the game. Stay focused on the victory conditions, ਀漀爀 昀椀最栀琀 眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 洀愀欀攀猀 礀漀甀 栀愀瀀瀀礀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀漀 瀀氀愀礀 爀攀猀甀爀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀 䈀漀甀稀欀栀愀猀栀椀⸀  吀栀愀琀✀猀 愀 爀攀愀氀 攀渀搀甀爀愀渀挀攀ഊtest. ਀ഊKonrad ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 昀爀椀搀爀椀欀爀 愀琀 渀攀眀猀⸀瘀椀瘀愀渀攀琀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀吀栀漀洀愀猀 圀⸀ 䤀爀攀氀愀渀搀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀伀唀娀䬀䠀䄀匀䠀䤀 㴀 匀栀攀攀瀀 刀甀最戀礀ഊDate: 14 Mar 1997 13:44:47 GMT ਀ഊMichael Newton (MELCNEWTON at postoffice.worldnet.att.net) wrote: ਀㨀 愀琀攀渀漀 愀琀 瀀愀渀椀砀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䔀爀椀挀 䄀⸀ 刀栀甀搀攀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ: >We in Ostgardr play a version of this modified for heavy weapons ਀㨀 㸀昀椀最栀琀椀渀最⸀ഊ: >We take the head of a Roman Legionaire (usually 10-15 lbs of sand ਀㨀 㸀椀渀 愀 戀愀最 愀渀搀 搀甀挀琀 琀愀瀀攀搀⤀ 愀渀搀 猀攀眀 椀琀 椀渀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 愀渀搀 挀栀漀漀猀攀 琀栀爀攀攀 攀瘀攀渀 ഊ: >sides. ਀㨀 㸀吀栀攀渀 琀栀爀攀攀 最漀愀氀猀 愀爀攀 挀栀漀猀攀渀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 氀漀挀愀氀 氀愀渀搀洀愀爀欀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀搀 椀猀ഊ: >placed in the middle of the three. ਀㨀 㸀䔀愀挀栀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀椀瀀愀渀琀 挀愀渀 漀渀氀礀 挀愀爀爀礀 ㄀ ⴀ 漀渀攀 栀愀渀搀攀搀 眀攀愀瀀漀渀 猀眀漀爀搀Ⰰ 洀愀挀攀Ⰰ 搀愀最最攀爀Ⰰഊ: >axe, excetera. ਀㨀 㸀ഊ: >Now the idea is to get the head and bring it back to your goal. ਀㨀 㸀瀀氀愀礀攀搀 琀漀 眀栀愀琀 攀瘀攀爀 眀攀 眀愀渀琀Ⰰ 漀爀 栀漀眀 爀愀椀渀礀 椀琀 椀猀⸀ഊ: >For a change make the rules to bring the goal to the goal on your right/left. ਀㨀ഊ: This is starting to sound more and more like the Shire March of the ਀㨀 䜀爀椀洀昀攀氀氀猀✀ 愀渀渀甀愀氀 攀瘀攀渀琀⼀最愀洀攀 漀昀 䈀氀漀漀搀 漀昀 䠀攀爀漀攀猀Ⰰ 椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 琀眀漀 琀攀愀洀猀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 ഊ: _no_ bounderies! try to get a dog's head {last time I went it was out ਀㨀 猀礀爀漀昀漀愀洀⸀ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀紀 椀渀琀漀 漀渀攀 漀爀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 戀甀挀欀攀琀 猀漀洀攀眀栀攀爀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 ഊ: field. A very loose, and wild, game! ਀㨀 䰀愀搀礀 䈀攀愀琀爀椀砀 漀昀 吀栀愀渀攀琀ഊ ਀圀栀椀挀栀 戀爀椀渀最猀 琀漀 洀椀渀搀 䈀愀戀礀 䠀愀爀瀀 匀攀愀氀 最愀洀攀 椀渀 䌀漀瀀瀀攀爀琀爀攀攀⸀  吀栀爀攀攀 琀攀愀洀猀Ⰰ 愀ഊbaby harp seal (stuffed, of course), very few rules. Very strange and ਀眀攀椀爀搀⸀ഊ ਀䘀刀䤀䐀刀䤀䬀刀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 倀愀甀氀 䬀愀礀 㰀瀀愀甀氀⸀欀愀礀 愀琀 氀椀渀挀爀漀昀琀渀樀⸀渀挀爀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: BOUZKHASHI = Sheep Rugby ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 一☀匀䴀ഊDate: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:58:45 GMT ਀ഊTo the original poster - The form played in Yorvick area (and Northwoods ਀愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀⤀ 椀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 戀愀猀攀搀 漀渀 愀渀 椀搀攀愀 愀渀搀ഊTI article by some Toronto local there named Finvarr de Tah (sorry for ਀琀栀攀 猀瀀攀氀氀椀渀最 攀爀爀漀爀猀⤀⸀  夀漀甀 洀愀礀 栀愀瘀攀 栀攀愀搀 漀昀 栀椀洀㼀  㨀⨀⤀㨀⨀⤀  䤀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀愀渀搀ഊhe was king of the East once, too. :*):*):*) ਀ഊFor those who saw Rambo 3, that game he played in Afganistan on ਀栀漀爀猀攀ⴀ戀愀挀欀 椀猀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 戀漀甀稀欀栀愀猀栀椀 眀愀猀 戀愀猀攀搀 漀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀ഊpre-1930's rules. (Guns and swords were finally banned from the games ਀眀栀攀渀 爀攀瀀攀愀琀椀渀最 最甀渀猀 戀攀挀愀洀攀 攀愀猀椀攀爀 琀漀 最攀琀 椀渀 䄀昀最愀渀椀猀琀愀渀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 栀攀愀爀搀⸀ ഊThey are still using whips, on each other as well as the horses. It is ਀愀 猀攀爀椀漀甀猀 最愀洀攀 琀栀攀爀攀℀⤀ഊ ਀䤀 戀爀漀甀最栀琀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀 攀愀猀琀 愀渀搀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 瀀氀愀礀椀渀最 戀礀 渀攀愀爀氀礀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀ഊrules as Finvarr wrote - all melee rules apply (including engagement ਀爀甀氀攀猀⤀Ⰰ 愀爀漀甀渀搀 戀漀琀栀 瀀漀猀琀猀 愀渀搀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 琀栀攀 最漀愀氀Ⰰ 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 眀栀漀 椀猀ഊcarrying the sheep around the posts, The winning team is the one who's ਀洀攀洀戀攀爀 瀀甀琀猀 琀栀攀 猀栀攀攀瀀 戀愀挀欀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀爀琀椀渀最 瀀漀椀渀琀⼀最漀愀氀 愀渀搀 洀愀欀攀猀 椀琀ഊstick. ਀ഊIt is amusing when someone misses the point and the sheep makes 3 ਀挀椀爀挀甀椀琀猀⸀  㨀⨀⤀  䴀漀猀琀 攀渀琀攀爀琀愀椀渀椀渀最 椀猀 眀栀攀渀 昀漀氀欀猀 猀琀愀爀琀 昀椀最栀琀椀渀最 攀愀挀栀ഊother, forget victory conditions, and one person casually walks the ਀猀栀攀攀瀀 琀漀 琀栀攀 最漀愀氀⸀ 㨀⨀⤀㨀⨀⤀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 猀栀攀攀瀀 眀攀 甀猀攀 漀甀琀 栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 䔀搀最愀爀 琀栀攀 䐀攀愀搀 匀栀攀攀瀀Ⰰ 椀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 㜀 洀漀渀琀栀 漀氀搀ഊlamb size and about half that weight (overall 2.5 X 1 X .5 feet,excluding ਀氀攀最猀 愀渀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㈀ ⬀ 瀀漀甀渀搀猀⤀⸀  䠀攀 椀猀 昀氀攀攀挀礀 昀愀戀爀椀挀Ⰰ 攀砀挀攀瀀琀 漀爀 昀愀挀攀Ⰰ 昀椀氀氀攀搀ഊwith rags, with empty black cloth as legs, and is grabable, just a bit ਀栀攀愀瘀礀⸀  吀栀攀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 猀甀挀栀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 猀愀昀攀氀礀 瀀愀爀爀礀 眀椀琀栀 䔀搀最愀爀Ⰰഊalthough he is a bit light to strike with. :*) We do insist on ਀最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀 琀漀 栀愀渀搀 挀愀爀爀礀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀甀挀欀椀渀最 甀渀搀攀爀 愀 猀眀漀爀搀 愀爀洀 漀爀 戀攀栀椀渀搀 愀ഊshield is do-able. ਀ഊNot only is bouzkhashi fun to play, it is fun to watch. It is very ਀瀀漀瀀甀氀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀攀 愀渀渀甀愀氀 挀栀愀爀椀琀礀 刀攀渀 䘀愀椀爀 眀攀 栀攀氀瀀 愀琀⸀  吀栀攀 最甀攀猀琀猀 氀漀瘀攀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 栀攀愀爀搀 䴀漀漀渀眀漀氀昀 栀愀猀 愀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 洀漀爀攀 挀氀漀猀攀氀礀 爀攀猀攀洀戀氀椀渀最 唀匀 䘀漀漀琀戀愀氀氀Ⰰഊbut I have never gotten to see or play it (darn it!). ਀ഊAs to the article thread I am quoting, Michael Newton wrote: ਀㸀 愀琀攀渀漀 愀琀 瀀愀渀椀砀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䔀爀椀挀 䄀⸀ 刀栀甀搀攀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> >We in Ostgardr play a version of this modified for heavy weapons ਀㸀 㸀昀椀最栀琀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀一漀 䔀爀椀挀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 瀀氀愀礀 愀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 洀漀搀椀昀椀攀搀 戀礀 䤀愀渀 琀漀 戀攀 洀漀爀攀 猀椀氀氀礀⸀ 㨀ⴀ伀㨀⨀⤀  ഊIt is a hoot to do, but this was more like the Moonwolf modification. ਀ഊI think Ian got some of the ideas from Sir Emric who used to hang with ਀䴀漀漀渀眀漀氀昀⸀  䤀琀 猀漀甀渀搀猀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 䔀洀爀椀挀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀搀 洀愀搀攀 漀搀搀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 猀琀愀爀琀椀渀最 琀漀 猀漀甀渀搀 洀漀爀攀 愀渀搀 洀漀爀攀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 匀栀椀爀攀 䴀愀爀挀栀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊ> Grimfells' annual event/game of Blood of Heroes, in which two teams, with ਀㸀 开渀漀开 戀漀甀渀搀攀爀椀攀猀℀ 琀爀礀 琀漀 最攀琀 愀 搀漀最✀猀 栀攀愀搀 笀氀愀猀琀 琀椀洀攀 䤀 眀攀渀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 漀甀琀ഊ> syrofoam. I think} into one or another plastic bucket somewhere on the ਀㸀 昀椀攀氀搀⸀ 䄀 瘀攀爀礀 氀漀漀猀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀椀氀搀Ⰰ 最愀洀攀℀ഊ> Lady Beatrix of Thanet ਀ഊNo that came from a really fun grade Z movie of the same name that ਀猀琀愀爀爀攀搀 刀甀琀最攀爀 䠀愀甀攀爀⸀  䤀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 栀漀漀琀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀Ⰰ 愀渀礀漀渀攀 昀爀漀洀 䤀渀搀椀愀渀愀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 琀栀攀 爀甀氀攀猀 䴀漀漀渀眀漀氀昀 甀猀攀猀㼀ഊ ਀        䈀愀爀琀 琀栀攀 䈀攀眀椀氀搀攀爀攀搀ഊ Carillion, East ਀ⴀⴀ ഊPaul Kay ਀一䌀刀ഊLincroft, NJ paul.kay at lincroftnj.ncr.com ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 甀猀攀爀 愀琀 猀爀洀搀攀氀⸀搀攀洀漀渀⸀挀漀⸀甀欀 ⠀䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀 䰀愀挀礀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 匀瀀漀爀琀猀ഊDate: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:40:48 +0100 ਀ഊtdevon at mindspring.com (T. Devon Sharkey) wrote: ਀㸀䤀✀洀 愀 戀椀琀 漀昀 愀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀 戀甀昀昀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀攀礀漀渀搀 琀漀甀爀渀攀礀 昀椀最栀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀✀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀ഊ>see what interest there is any good research on the games and sports ਀㸀瀀氀愀礀攀搀 搀甀爀椀渀最 攀甀爀漀瀀攀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 氀愀琀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 愀最攀猀 愀渀搀 刀攀渀渀愀椀猀愀渀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀ 猀渀椀瀀ഊ ਀㸀䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 最漀漀搀Ⰰ 搀攀琀愀椀氀攀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 爀甀氀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊ>play of these games in their ancient form? Would anyone be interested ਀㸀椀渀 瀀氀愀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀猀攀 最愀洀攀猀 愀琀 倀攀渀猀椀挀 漀爀 猀漀洀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 氀愀爀最攀 猀挀愀氀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀㼀 ഊ ਀䤀渀 琀栀攀 攀愀爀氀礀 渀椀渀攀琀攀攀渀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 ⠀㄀㠀 ㄀⤀Ⰰ 䨀漀猀攀瀀栀 匀琀爀甀琀琀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 愀 挀氀愀猀猀椀挀ഊstudy in this field called 'Sports and Pastimes of the People of England' ਀眀栀椀挀栀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 爀攀瀀爀椀渀琀攀搀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 琀椀洀攀猀⸀  吀栀愀琀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 瀀氀愀挀攀 琀漀ഊstart looking for ideas. ਀ഊEarl Michael DeLacy ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 刀愀礀 愀琀 愀洀礀最搀愀氀愀⸀搀攀洀漀渀⸀挀漀⸀甀欀 ⠀刀愀礀 䄀氀洀漀渀搀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 匀瀀漀爀琀猀ഊDate: Sat, 21 Jun 97 20:48:57 GMT ਀ഊtdevon at mindspring.com "T. Devon Sharkey" writes: ਀㸀 䤀✀洀 愀 戀椀琀 漀昀 愀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀 戀甀昀昀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀攀礀漀渀搀 琀漀甀爀渀攀礀 昀椀最栀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 䤀✀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀ഊ> see what interest there is any good research on the games and sports ਀㸀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 搀甀爀椀渀最 攀甀爀漀瀀攀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 氀愀琀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 愀最攀猀 愀渀搀 刀攀渀渀愀椀猀愀渀挀攀⸀ഊ> Three sports which still enjoy remarkable popularity come to mind: ਀㸀 昀漀漀琀戀愀氀氀 ⠀漀爀 猀漀挀挀攀爀 椀昀 礀漀甀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀⤀Ⰰ 最漀氀昀 愀渀搀 琀攀渀渀椀猀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 最漀漀搀Ⰰ 搀攀琀愀椀氀攀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 爀甀氀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊ> play of these games in their ancient form? Would anyone be interested ਀㸀 椀渀 瀀氀愀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀猀攀 最愀洀攀猀 愀琀 倀攀渀猀椀挀 漀爀 猀漀洀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 氀愀爀最攀 猀挀愀氀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀㼀 ഊ ਀圀椀琀栀 爀攀最愀爀搀 琀漀 琀攀渀渀椀猀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 椀猀 眀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀漀眀 戀攀 挀愀氀氀攀搀ഊReal (or Royal) Tennis in England and, I think, Court Tennis in America. ਀䤀琀✀猀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 椀渀 愀 眀愀氀氀攀搀 挀漀甀爀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 最愀氀氀攀爀礀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀眀漀 猀椀搀攀猀 漀昀 椀琀⸀ഊThere is a fairly recent book called "The Royal Game", Editors L.St.J. Butler ਀愀渀搀 倀⸀䨀⸀ 圀漀爀搀椀攀⸀  䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 椀琀 椀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 椀渀 瀀爀椀渀琀 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀 愀爀攀 愀猀ഊfollows: ISBN 0 9514622 0 2 (cloth) 0 9514622 1 0 (paper). Published ਀椀渀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀 戀礀 琀栀攀 䘀愀氀欀氀愀渀搀 倀愀氀愀挀攀 刀攀愀氀 吀攀渀渀椀猀 䌀氀甀戀Ⰰ 䘀漀爀搀栀攀愀搀Ⰰ 䬀椀瀀瀀攀渀ⰀഊStirling FK8 3JQ, UK. ਀ഊThis is a series of essays about the history/development of tennis. Although ਀椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 昀漀爀洀愀氀 戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀礀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀 焀甀漀琀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀ഊin the text and is a very readable history. I think the earliest source ਀焀甀漀琀攀搀 椀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀㌀㌀ ⸀  伀爀椀最椀渀愀氀氀礀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 戀愀爀攀ഊhand but rackets came in somewhere in the late 1400s. Modern Lawn Tennis ਀搀愀琀攀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 ㄀㠀㜀 猀 愀渀搀 眀愀猀 氀愀爀最攀氀礀 挀漀搀椀昀椀攀搀 椀渀 ㄀㠀㜀㜀 椀渀 琀椀洀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀ഊWimbledon Championships. ਀ഊIf you can't get hold of it let me know and I'll try to extract some of the ਀瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 愀渀搀 瀀漀猀琀 琀栀攀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 栀攀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀䠀吀䠀ഊ-- ਀刀愀礀 䄀氀洀漀渀搀ഊ(btw Ray = Female) ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 戀爀漀渀眀礀渀洀最渀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䈀爀漀渀眀礀渀洀最渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 匀瀀漀爀琀猀ഊDate: 24 Jun 1997 20:40:18 GMT ਀ഊHPGV80D at prodigy.com (Patricia Hefner) writes: ਀㸀䤀 愀洀 愀氀猀漀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀⸀ 䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀戀漀搀礀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀ഊ ਀㸀琀栀攀 渀漀爀琀栀攀爀渀  䔀甀爀漀瀀攀愀渀猀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 最愀洀攀猀 漀渀 椀挀攀㼀  吀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ഊ>word "skate" was in 1573 (in Dutch). But skates as we know them didn't ਀㸀挀漀洀攀 椀渀琀漀 攀砀椀猀琀攀渀挀攀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 渀椀渀攀琀攀攀渀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀  䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 最漀漀搀 ഊ>this particular source is, but I read where people would get sharp pieces ਀㸀漀昀 戀漀渀攀 愀渀搀 琀椀攀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 琀栀攀椀爀 昀攀攀琀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀✀搀 最攀琀 琀眀漀 氀愀爀最攀 猀琀椀挀欀猀 琀漀 ഊ>use as poles, and they'd navigate on the ice. Can anybody substantiate ਀㸀琀栀椀猀㼀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 开倀氀攀愀猀甀爀攀猀 愀渀搀 倀愀猀琀椀洀攀猀 椀渀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀开Ⰰ 戀礀 䌀漀洀瀀琀漀渀 刀攀攀瘀攀猀ⰀഊISBN 0-7509-0089-X, mentions all aspects of medieval leisure activities ਀昀爀漀洀 氀椀琀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 愀爀琀猀 琀漀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀Ⰰ 最愀爀搀攀渀椀渀最Ⰰ 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 琀愀瘀攀爀渀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊprostitution. It has this to say about ice skating and sports on the ice ਀⠀倀愀最攀 㤀㌀ⴀ㤀㐀⤀㨀ഊ"When cold weather produced ice, ball games were moved onto the ice. Ice ਀挀愀洀瀀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀挀攀 戀愀渀搀礀ⴀ戀愀氀氀 愀爀攀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀甀爀氀椀渀最Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀ഊresembled quoits in its earliest form, could be played. Skating on ice ਀眀愀猀 渀漀琀 甀渀甀猀甀愀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀欀愀琀攀猀 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 戀漀渀攀猀 漀昀 挀愀琀琀氀攀 愀渀搀 栀漀爀猀攀猀 栀愀瘀攀ഊbeen recovered from archaeological sites, many from London and York. The ਀戀漀渀攀 猀欀愀琀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀琀爀愀瀀瀀攀搀 漀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 昀攀攀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 愀氀眀愀礀猀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀ഊthe skating technique used was to keep the skates flat on the ice and move ਀礀 瀀甀猀栀椀渀最 愀最愀椀渀猀琀 琀栀攀 椀挀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 猀琀椀挀欀 漀爀 瀀漀氀攀⸀  圀椀氀氀椀愀洀 昀椀琀稀 匀琀攀瀀栀攀渀Ⰰ 椀渀ഊhis 'Life of Thomas Becket' (written between 1170 and 1183) described ਀猀欀愀琀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 䴀漀漀爀昀椀攀氀搀猀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀 䰀漀渀搀漀渀Ⰰ 椀渀搀椀挀愀琀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 猀欀愀琀攀爀猀 甀猀攀搀ഊpoles to propel themselves along, had their skates made of animal ਀猀栀椀渀ⴀ戀漀渀攀猀 戀漀甀渀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀椀爀 昀攀攀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 爀攀挀欀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀琀栀猀ഊdeliberately raced at each other from a distance and crashed together ਀甀猀椀渀最 琀栀攀椀爀 瀀漀氀攀猀 愀猀 椀昀 琀椀氀琀椀渀最⸀  䈀漀搀椀氀礀 椀渀樀甀爀礀 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 愀琀 愀氀氀 甀渀欀渀漀眀渀⸀ ഊAll ages engaged in skating, and a poignant archaeological find of 1899 ਀眀愀猀 愀琀 䌀漀氀氀攀最攀 匀琀爀攀攀琀Ⰰ 䤀瀀猀眀椀挀栀Ⰰ 眀栀攀爀攀 愀 昀攀洀愀氀攀 猀欀攀氀攀琀漀渀 眀愀猀 昀漀甀渀搀 眀椀琀栀ഊbone skates, embedded in the mud of what had been the bed of a river." ਀ഊAlthough it does not have any pictures of skating, there are reproductions ਀漀昀 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀攀椀猀甀爀攀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀攀搀 椀渀ഊother parts of the book. ਀ഊBronwyn ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㘀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㌀㨀㐀㤀㨀㐀㔀 ⴀ 㔀   ⠀䌀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: "J. Michael Shew" ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: toys, esp. childrens ਀ഊ I have had a devil of a time documenting this, but I found mention ਀漀昀 愀 最愀洀攀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀栀爀攀攀 猀琀椀挀欀猀 猀攀琀 甀瀀 愀琀 漀渀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 愀ഊfield, and tossing a third to knock them down. ਀ऀ䤀 戀甀椀氀琀 愀 ∀䬀椀搀 昀爀椀攀渀搀氀礀∀ 猀攀琀 漀昀 最漀氀昀 琀甀戀攀猀 洀漀甀渀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀ഊfunnels on the end for the Ansteorran kids in the camp at lilies this ਀礀攀愀爀⸀  䜀漀琀 琀漀 戀攀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀 昀甀渀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 愀搀甀氀琀猀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 焀甀椀琀攀 漀昀琀攀渀⸀ഊ Mikal ਀开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开ഊ Mikal the Ram; an annoying Bard of no redeeming qualities ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 欀攀氀氀漀最最 愀琀 爀漀栀愀渀⸀猀搀猀甀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䌀⸀ 䬀攀瘀椀渀 䬀攀氀氀漀最最⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀栀甀琀琀氀攀ⴀ挀漀挀欀 ⠀眀愀猀㨀 吀栀椀猀 愀椀渀✀琀 瘀漀氀氀攀礀戀愀氀氀Ⰰ 最椀爀氀猀⤀ഊDate: 27 Jun 1997 18:11:31 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 匀愀渀 䐀椀攀最漀 匀琀愀琀攀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀ഊ ਀䌀⸀ 匀挀椀瀀椀漀 䌀椀渀渀挀椀渀愀琀瘀猀 ⠀猀挀椀瀀椀漀 愀琀 眀栀礀⸀渀攀琀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ: I once saw a picture of a Roman mosaic where men were engaged in a game ਀㨀 琀栀愀琀 氀漀漀欀攀搀 爀攀洀愀爀欀愀戀氀礀 氀椀欀攀 栀愀挀欀攀礀ⴀ猀愀挀欀⸀  䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 瘀漀氀氀攀礀戀愀氀氀ഊ: might not be too far a reach, if we can find some documentation. And isn't ਀㨀 戀愀搀洀椀渀琀漀渀 ⠀礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀 猀栀甀琀琀氀攀ⴀ挀漀挀欀 最愀洀攀℀⤀ 瀀攀爀椀漀搀㼀ഊ ਀        䄀 最愀洀攀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 ∀猀栀甀琀琀氀攀ⴀ挀漀挀欀∀ 甀猀椀渀最 眀漀漀搀攀渀 瀀愀搀搀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 愀 挀漀爀欀 戀愀氀氀ഊwith feathers stuck in it, but without a net, is period. Made myself a ਀猀攀琀⸀  䠀愀爀搀 瀀愀爀琀 眀愀猀 昀椀渀搀椀渀最 挀漀爀欀 戀愀氀氀猀⸀  䘀椀渀愀氀氀礀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 瀀氀甀洀戀椀渀最 挀漀洀瀀愀渀礀ഊwith some outdated cork toilet floats gathering dust. ਀ഊ Avenel Kellough ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䐀愀瘀攀 䔀愀爀氀 㰀搀愀瘀攀攀愀爀氀 愀琀 愀氀琀甀猀⸀猀瀀攀攀搀渀攀琀⸀挀漀洀⸀愀甀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 匀瀀漀爀琀猀ഊDate: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 05:33:44 +1000 ਀ഊ> I'm a bit of a sports buff, and beyond tourney fighting, I'd like to ਀㸀 猀攀攀 眀栀愀琀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀礀 最漀漀搀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 漀渀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀ഊ> played during europe during the late middle ages and Rennaisance. ਀㸀 吀栀爀攀攀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 猀琀椀氀氀 攀渀樀漀礀 爀攀洀愀爀欀愀戀氀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀爀椀琀礀 挀漀洀攀 琀漀 洀椀渀搀㨀ഊ> football (or soccer if you prefer), golf and tennis. ਀㸀 ഊ> Does anyone have good, detailed sources on the equipment, rules, and ਀㸀 瀀氀愀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 最愀洀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀椀爀 愀渀挀椀攀渀琀 昀漀爀洀㼀  圀漀甀氀搀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 戀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀ഊ> in playing these games at Pensic or some other large scale event? ਀ഊI've just been writing an article on sports and games in the Sixteenth ਀愀渀搀 匀攀瘀攀渀琀攀攀渀琀栀 䌀攀渀琀甀爀椀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 琀栀漀爀漀甀最栀 愀渀搀 挀漀洀瀀爀攀栀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 戀漀漀欀 漀渀ഊgames and sports in the middle ages is: ਀ഊ*Fun and Games in Old Europe* by W.Endrei and L.Zolnay, Corvina Kiado, ਀䈀甀搀愀瀀攀猀琀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀㘀⸀ഊ ਀䤀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 戀攀 琀漀漀 栀愀爀搀 琀漀 最攀琀 愀 栀漀氀搀 栀漀氀搀 漀昀⸀ഊ ਀䐀漀渀✀琀 昀愀氀氀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 琀爀愀瀀 漀昀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 愀 戀漀漀欀 椀猀 漀氀搀攀爀 椀琀 椀猀ഊmore accurate. Strutt's work is largely inaccurate, and as far as i can ਀猀攀攀 愀 眀漀爀欀 漀昀 昀愀渀琀愀猀礀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 最漀氀昀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀㨀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 攀愀爀氀椀攀猀琀 最愀洀攀 漀昀 最漀氀昀 䤀✀瘀攀 栀攀愀爀搀 漀昀 眀愀猀 椀渀 ㄀㈀㤀㜀Ⰰ 挀漀洀洀攀洀漀爀愀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊdeath of Florence V, Count of Holland and Zeeland. Since then there is a ਀挀漀渀琀椀渀甀漀甀猀 爀攀挀漀爀搀 漀昀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀⸀ 䴀漀猀琀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 愀爀攀 椀渀ഊthe form of various laws enacted against golf, which was for the most ਀瀀愀爀琀 愀渀 甀爀戀愀渀 漀挀挀甀瀀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ ഊThe first illustration of golf is from an illumated book of hours dated ਀琀漀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀㔀  䄀䐀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 欀攀瀀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䈀爀椀琀椀猀栀 䴀甀猀攀甀洀⸀ 椀琀 椀猀 欀渀漀眀渀Ⰰഊunsurprisingly, as the 'Golf Book'. ਀䤀琀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀猀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 昀漀爀洀猀 漀昀 最漀氀昀 眀攀爀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀爀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 猀攀瘀攀渀琀攀攀渀琀栀ഊcentury, where, except for in Scotland and Holland, the game was adopted ਀戀礀 挀栀椀氀搀爀攀渀⸀ 吀漀眀愀爀搀猀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀爀栀攀 猀攀瘀攀渀琀攀攀渀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀Ⰰ 椀渀ഊit's Scottish variant, enjoyed a renaissance, and has developed into ਀椀琀✀猀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 昀漀爀洀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 最漀氀昀 愀爀攀㨀ഊ ਀䤀愀渀 䠀攀渀搀攀爀猀漀渀 愀渀搀 䐀愀瘀椀搀 匀琀椀爀欀Ⰰ ∀䜀漀氀昀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䴀愀欀椀渀最∀Ⰰ 䌀爀愀眀氀攀礀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㜀㤀⸀ഊ ਀䨀⸀ 䠀⸀ 瘀愀渀 䠀攀渀最攀氀Ⰰ ∀䔀愀爀氀礀 䜀漀氀昀∀Ⰰ 䐀爀甀欀欀攀爀椀樀 吀攀渀猀椀渀欀氀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀㈀ഊ ਀倀愀琀爀椀挀椀愀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I am also interested in sources for medieval sports. Does anybody know if ਀㸀 琀栀攀 渀漀爀琀栀攀爀渀  䔀甀爀漀瀀攀愀渀猀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 最愀洀攀猀 漀渀 椀挀攀㼀  吀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ഊ> word "skate" was in 1573 (in Dutch). But skates as we know them didn't ਀㸀 挀漀洀攀 椀渀琀漀 攀砀椀猀琀攀渀挀攀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 渀椀渀攀琀攀攀渀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀  䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 最漀漀搀 ഊ> this particular source is, but I read where people would get sharp pieces ਀㸀 漀昀 戀漀渀攀 愀渀搀 琀椀攀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 琀栀攀椀爀 昀攀攀琀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀✀搀 最攀琀 琀眀漀 氀愀爀最攀 猀琀椀挀欀猀 琀漀 ഊ> use as poles, and they'd navigate on the ice. Can anybody substantiate ਀㸀 琀栀椀猀㼀ഊ ਀䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 䤀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 礀漀甀⸀ 䘀椀爀猀琀氀礀Ⰰ  琀栀攀 漀氀搀 一漀爀猀攀 眀漀爀搀ഊ'isleggr' (literally 'ice leg-bone') neatly corresponds with the ਀瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀 漀昀 愀琀琀挀栀椀渀最 愀 洀攀琀愀瀀漀搀椀愀氀 戀漀渀攀 昀爀漀洀 愀 栀漀爀猀攀Ⰰ 挀漀眀 漀爀 搀攀攀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀ഊbottom of the shoe with a peice of leather thong. Many examples of these ਀戀漀渀攀 ✀猀欀愀琀攀猀✀ 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀琀 䈀椀爀欀愀 愀渀搀 夀漀爀欀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 爀攀挀漀最渀椀猀愀戀氀攀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀椀爀 瀀漀氀椀猀攀搀 甀渀搀攀爀猀椀搀攀猀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 甀瀀瀀攀爀猀ഊthat have often been deliberately roughened by a seruies of lines scored ਀愀挀爀漀猀猀 琀栀攀 戀漀渀攀⸀ 䠀漀氀攀猀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 搀爀椀氀氀攀搀 琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 戀愀挀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀渀攀Ⰰഊand sometimes the front to enable the attachment of a thong. ਀ഊSkating was apparently practiced right up until the the modern period; a ਀眀漀漀搀戀漀挀欀 戀礀 伀氀愀甀猀 䴀愀最渀甀猀Ⰰ 搀愀琀攀搀 愀琀 ㄀㔀㔀㔀Ⰰ 猀栀漀眀猀 椀挀攀 猀欀愀琀攀爀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀ഊare numerous references from the sixteenth century onwards. ਀ഊMagnus' illustration shows the skaters using two sticks, in the manner ਀漀昀 猀欀椀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 愀渀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 琀爀礀㨀ഊ ਀䴀愀最渀甀猀 䴀愀最渀甀猀猀漀渀 ⠀眀椀琀栀 愀 渀愀洀攀 猀漀 愀戀猀甀爀搀 栀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 戀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀⤀Ⰰഊ'Vikings!', Bodley Head press, London, 1980 ਀ഊThis should be easily attainable. ਀ഊAlso look at a book called 'The Viking Dig'- I don't have ਀戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀椀挀愀氀 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀 渀攀愀爀戀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 栀愀渀搀礀 ⠀琀栀漀甀最栀 栀愀爀搀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀⤀ഊbook is: ਀ഊHelen Clarke and Bjorn Ambrosiani, 'Towns in the Viking Age', Leicester ਀唀渀椀 倀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ 䰀漀渀搀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㤀㔀ഊ ਀䤀 栀漀瀀攀 䤀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 礀漀甀 愀氀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最漀漀搀 氀甀挀欀 椀渀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 爀漀瀀攀ഊsome people into playing with you. ਀ഊDave Earl ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 樀甀猀琀椀渀 愀琀 椀渀洀攀琀⸀䌀伀䴀 ⠀䴀愀爀欀 圀愀欀猀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 匀瀀漀爀琀猀ഊDate: 27 Jun 1997 10:59:51 -0400 ਀ഊDave Earl recommends: ਀㸀吀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 琀栀漀爀漀甀最栀 愀渀搀 挀漀洀瀀爀攀栀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 戀漀漀欀 漀渀ഊ>games and sports in the middle ages is: ਀㸀ഊ>*Fun and Games in Old Europe* by W.Endrei and L.Zolnay, Corvina Kiado, ਀㸀䈀甀搀愀瀀攀猀琀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀㘀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀䤀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 戀攀 琀漀漀 栀愀爀搀 琀漀 最攀琀 愀 栀漀氀搀 栀漀氀搀 漀昀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 昀椀渀搀 椀琀 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 攀愀猀礀 琀漀 漀戀琀愀椀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䄀洀愀稀漀渀 䈀漀漀欀猀 眀愀猀 愀戀氀攀ഊto procure it for me (http://www.amazon.com). Probably anyone who ਀搀攀愀氀猀 眀椀琀栀 漀甀琀ⴀ漀昀ⴀ挀漀甀渀琀爀礀 猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀 漀爀搀攀爀猀 挀愀渀 搀漀 猀漀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䄀洀愀稀漀渀ഊis pretty convenient. ਀ഊWhile I haven't used the book extensively, I would concur that ਀椀琀✀猀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀氀礀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 最漀漀搀 漀渀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀㬀 漀昀昀栀愀渀搀Ⰰ 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 漀昀ഊanything better. On more sedate games, there are certainly ਀戀攀琀琀攀爀 戀漀漀欀猀 ⠀䴀甀爀爀愀礀✀猀 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 䈀漀愀爀搀 䜀愀洀攀猀 伀琀栀攀爀 吀栀愀渀 䌀栀攀猀猀Ⰰഊfor example), but this one serves as a pretty good survey, and ਀琀栀攀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 挀愀渀✀琀 戀攀 戀攀愀琀⸀ ⠀䄀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 䤀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 昀漀甀渀搀ഊthe translation a little lacking; I think they got confused about ਀䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 琀攀爀洀椀渀漀氀漀最礀 椀渀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 猀瀀漀琀猀⸀⸀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 愀 昀攀眀 爀愀渀搀漀洀 戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀椀攀猀 漀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 最愀洀攀猀Ⰰ 挀栀攀挀欀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀ഊPeriod Games Homepage: ਀ഊ http://www.inmet.com/~justin/game-hist.html ਀ഊ -- Justin ਀                                   圀栀漀 搀攀猀瀀攀爀愀琀攀氀礀 渀攀攀搀猀 琀漀 甀瀀搀愀琀攀 栀椀猀 漀眀渀ഊ bibliography there... ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: Mark Waks ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䄀挀琀椀瘀椀琀礀 最愀洀攀猀ഊOrganization: Intermetrics, Inc ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ 㘀 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㠀㨀 ㌀㨀㐀  䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀䬀愀爀氀 䄀 䠀愀攀昀渀攀爀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> Prithee, good gentles. I am in search of sources of activity-style games, ਀㸀 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 䈀愀爀氀攀礀攀 䈀爀攀愀欀攀㬀 最愀洀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀 瘀攀爀礀 ∀猀栀漀眀礀∀ 猀漀 愀猀 琀漀 愀琀琀爀愀挀琀 愀渀ഊ> audience. Nine Mans Morris and Notty just don't do it. ਀ഊA couple of other games are listed under the Rules page of the Period ਀䜀愀洀攀猀 䠀漀洀攀瀀愀最攀㨀ഊ ਀        栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀椀渀洀攀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀樀甀猀琀椀渀⼀最愀洀攀ⴀ栀椀猀琀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀䤀 愀洀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀氀礀 昀漀渀搀 漀昀 戀漀眀氀猀⼀戀漀挀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀漀爀猀攀猀栀漀攀猀Ⰰ 戀漀琀栀 漀昀 眀栀椀挀栀 愀爀攀ഊquite period, take up some space, and look neat; I've had good luck with ਀戀漀琀栀⸀ ⠀䔀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 栀漀爀猀攀猀栀漀攀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 洀愀欀攀猀 氀漀甀搀 挀氀愀渀最椀渀最 渀漀椀猀攀猀Ⰰ 最漀漀搀 昀漀爀ഊgetting attention.) ਀ഊFor more group involvement, Blind Man's Bluff is hard to beat, and ਀爀攀焀甀椀爀攀猀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 攀砀瀀氀愀渀愀琀椀漀渀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 漀昀 䄀挀琀椀瘀攀ഊGames in Baron Sallamallah's book, "Medieval Games"; ordering ਀椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 挀愀渀 戀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀琀㨀ഊ ਀        栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀椀渀洀攀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀樀甀猀琀椀渀⼀樀甀猀琀椀渀开戀椀戀⸀栀琀洀氀⌀猀愀氀愀愀洀愀氀氀愀栀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 愀 眀椀搀攀 瘀愀爀椀攀琀礀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀挀琀椀瘀攀 最愀洀攀猀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀                                ⴀⴀ 䨀甀猀琀椀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:27:47 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀漀渀渀攀 㰀漀昀琀爀愀焀甀愀椀爀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Pancake Races ਀ഊAnne-Marie Rousseau wrote: ਀㸀 伀琀栀攀爀 最愀洀攀猀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 眀攀琀 爀愀最 漀渀 愀 猀琀椀挀欀Ⰰ 最甀爀渀椀渀最Ⰰ 洀攀氀漀渀 攀愀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 琀甀爀渀椀瀀ഊ> carving, Izzy Dizzy, Spin in the Bucket, and other assorted goofiness. ਀ഊWhat about Hunkerhausen? (bad attempt at spelling German word mine) ਀ഊsplit a 8-10 diameter fireplace log, balance each piece on the round side, ਀愀戀漀甀琀 㠀 昀琀 愀瀀愀爀琀⸀  愀 瀀氀愀礀攀爀 猀琀愀渀搀猀 漀渀 攀愀挀栀 氀漀最Ⰰ 攀愀挀栀 栀漀氀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 愀 爀漀瀀攀ഊabout 16 ft long. At the signal, they each haul in as much rope as they can, ਀甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 椀猀 琀愀甀最栀琀⸀  吀栀攀渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 攀愀挀栀 琀爀礀 琀漀 一伀吀 戀攀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀 琀漀 昀愀氀氀 漀昀昀 眀栀椀氀攀ഊattempting to get their enemies portion of the rope into their own hands. ਀ഊIts's addictive, with losers begging for best 2 outta 3, ok best 3 outta 5 ਀攀琀挀⸀ഊ ਀⠀洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 眀愀爀渀椀渀最㨀 瀀氀愀礀攀爀猀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 眀攀愀爀攀 猀栀漀攀猀 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 猀漀 愀猀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 戀椀最ഊgigantic splinters. Or, the hausen maker should smoothe the split side) ਀ഊIf you need it, I will ask our game guy about documentation. ਀ഊbonne ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 㔀 䴀愀礀 ㈀  㐀  㤀㨀㈀㜀㨀㄀㔀 ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Huette von Ahrens ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 栀甀爀氀攀礀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊ--- pandoraf at verizon.net wrote: ਀㸀 猀愀洀攀 琀栀椀渀最 最漀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 爀攀氀愀琀攀搀 猀瀀漀爀琀 漀昀 猀栀椀渀琀礀ഊ> (camanachd or iomain in Scottish Gaelic) -- ਀㸀 戀甀琀Ⰰ 漀栀 戀漀礀Ⰰ 椀猀 椀琀 氀漀愀搀猀 漀昀 昀甀渀℀ഊ> ਀ 愀猀 愀渀 漀昀昀猀栀漀漀琀 漀昀 匀攀愀琀琀氀攀✀猀 匀挀漀琀琀椀猀栀 䜀愀攀氀椀挀ഊ> community, there was a small group playing ਀㸀 猀栀椀渀琀礀 氀愀猀琀 猀甀洀洀攀爀 ⴀ 洀愀礀戀攀 䤀✀氀氀 琀爀礀 琀漀 最攀琀 椀琀ഊ> going again with some SCA participation too... ਀ഊIn the OED, the earlist reference to Shinty is ਀㄀㜀㜀㄀⸀ഊ ਀䠀甀攀琀琀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 5 May 2004 10:03:58 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 㰀瀀愀渀搀漀爀愀昀 愀琀 瘀攀爀椀稀漀渀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: Re: [Sca-cooks] hurley ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀 䤀渀 琀栀攀 伀䔀䐀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 攀愀爀氀椀猀琀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 匀栀椀渀琀礀 椀猀ഊ> 1771. ਀㸀ഊ> Huette ਀ഊah, yes -- shinty being the English name for the Gaelic sport of ਀挀愀洀愀渀愀挀栀搀Ⰰ 愀氀猀漀 挀愀氀氀攀 椀漀洀愀椀渀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 愀渀挀椀攀渀琀 ⠀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀琀攀猀 椀渀  ഊfront of me on specifics, but there are effigies and other medieval art ਀猀栀漀眀椀渀最 猀栀椀渀琀礀 猀琀椀挀欀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀伀䘀䌀 ⴀⴀ 䤀✀洀 攀渀瘀椀猀椀漀渀椀渀最 猀栀椀渀琀礀 猀琀椀挀欀猀 洀愀搀攀 漀甀琀 漀昀 戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀栀椀渀琀礀  ഊballs of ... cheese, maybe. would make for an interesting variation on ਀昀漀漀搀 昀椀最栀琀 ⴀⴀ 琀愀戀氀攀 猀栀椀渀琀礀℀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 05 May 2004 10:11:22 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀甀猀愀渀 䘀漀砀ⴀ䐀愀瘀椀猀 㰀猀攀氀攀渀攀 愀琀 攀愀爀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] hurley ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䄀攀搀甀椀渀 愀渀搀 䴀漀戀椀 眀愀琀挀栀攀搀 琀栀攀 圀攀猀琀攀爀渀 栀甀爀氀攀爀猀 眀椀琀栀 洀甀挀栀 椀渀琀攀爀猀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊmight try to instigate a game down south. I'm researching it now. ਀ഊThe differences seem to be: ਀ഊHurley is Irish, Shinty is Scots ਀䠀甀爀氀攀礀 椀猀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀攀 愀椀爀Ⰰ 愀渀礀眀栀攀爀攀㬀  匀栀椀渀琀礀 椀猀 洀愀椀渀氀礀ഊon the ground [and the stick is longer - Scot brag!] ਀ഊIrish and Scots duke it out ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀猀瀀漀爀琀⸀猀挀漀琀猀洀愀渀⸀挀漀洀⼀琀漀瀀椀挀猀⸀挀昀洀㼀琀椀搀㴀㐀㄀ ☀椀搀㴀㄀㄀㔀㔀㐀㔀㈀  ㌀ഊ ਀䠀甀爀氀攀礀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 吀愀椀渀 䈀漀 䌀甀愀氀最渀攀ഊhttp://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/T301035/text004.html ਀ഊOld Hurley sticks and balls ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀戀椀爀琀栀瀀氀愀挀攀漀昀栀漀挀欀攀礀⸀挀漀洀⼀瘀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀⼀攀瘀ⴀ攀焀甀椀瀀ⴀ瀀椀挀猀⼀瀀椀挀ⴀ栀甀爀氀攀礀ⴀ ഊstk-old.html ਀ഊHurley equipment, include foam children's set ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀渀甀爀椀猀瀀漀爀琀⸀昀猀渀攀琀⸀挀漀⸀甀欀⼀䠀甀爀氀攀礀猀⸀栀琀洀ഊ ਀攀渀挀礀挀氀漀瀀攀搀椀愀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 漀渀 䠀甀爀氀攀礀ഊhttp://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Hurley ਀ഊNational shinty org in Scotland http://shinty.com/ ਀ഊSelene C. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䐀攀挀 ㈀  㐀 ㄀㄀㨀㐀㈀㨀㌀㐀 ⴀ 㘀  ഊFrom: "Terry Decker" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䠀甀爀氀椀渀最 伀吀 眀愀猀 伀渀愀最攀爀猀ഊTo: "Cooks within the SCA" ਀ഊWhile the game is sometimes referred to as hurley, the correct term is ਀栀甀爀氀椀渀最⸀  吀栀攀 栀甀爀氀攀礀 ⠀挀愀洀愀渀⤀ 椀猀 琀栀攀 猀琀椀挀欀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 最愀洀攀 椀猀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 爀漀甀最栀 愀渀搀 琀甀洀戀氀攀 戀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀 愀渀搀 愀爀攀 爀甀氀攀猀Ⰰ 漀昀琀攀渀ഊhonored in the breach as in hockey and lacrosse. The modern rules (without ਀最攀琀琀椀渀最 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀猀 漀昀 瀀漀猀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀 瀀氀愀礀⤀ 愀爀攀㨀ഊ ਀   ㄀⸀⸀ 䄀 瀀氀愀礀攀爀 挀愀渀 爀甀渀 愀 洀愀砀椀洀甀洀 漀昀 昀漀甀爀 猀琀攀瀀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 猀氀椀漀琀愀爀 ⠀戀愀氀氀⤀ 椀渀ഊhis/her hand. ਀   ㈀⸀⸀ 䄀 瀀氀愀礀攀爀 洀愀礀 琀愀欀攀 愀猀 洀愀渀礀 猀琀攀瀀猀 愀猀 栀攀⼀猀栀攀 眀椀猀栀攀猀 眀栀椀氀攀 挀愀爀爀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊsliotar on the boss of the hurley. ਀   ㌀⸀⸀ 䄀 瀀氀愀礀攀爀 洀愀礀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 猀氀椀漀琀愀爀 椀渀琀漀 栀椀猀⼀栀攀爀 栀愀渀搀 甀瀀 琀漀 琀眀漀 琀椀洀攀猀 眀栀椀氀攀ഊtravelling in possesion. ਀   㐀⸀⸀ 吀栀攀 猀氀椀漀琀愀爀 洀愀礀 渀漀琀 戀攀 琀栀爀漀眀渀㬀 琀栀攀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀 栀愀渀搀ⴀ瀀愀猀猀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 洀甀猀琀 戀攀ഊused. ਀   㔀⸀⸀ 吀栀攀 猀氀椀漀琀愀爀 洀愀礀 渀漀琀 戀攀 瀀椀挀欀攀搀 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀㬀 琀栀攀 爀漀氀氀ⴀ氀椀昀琀ഊor the jab-lift must be used. ਀   㘀⸀⸀ 䄀 瀀氀愀礀攀爀 眀栀漀 椀猀 椀渀 瀀漀猀猀攀猀椀漀渀 洀愀礀 渀漀琀 猀挀漀爀攀 眀椀琀栀 栀椀猀⼀栀攀爀 栀愀渀搀⸀ഊ 7.. If the sliotar is in flight, a player may score by striking the ball ਀眀椀琀栀 栀椀猀⼀栀攀爀 栀愀渀搀⸀ഊ 8.. Three defenders may stand on the goal-line when a penalty is being taken. ਀   㤀⸀⸀ 䄀 昀爀攀攀ⴀ瀀甀挀 椀猀 愀眀愀爀搀攀搀 眀栀攀渀 愀 搀攀昀攀渀搀攀爀 猀琀爀椀欀攀猀 琀栀攀 戀愀氀氀 漀瘀攀爀 栀椀猀⼀栀攀爀ഊown endline. ਀   ㄀ ⸀⸀ 吀栀爀攀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 攀焀甀愀氀 琀漀 漀渀攀 最漀愀氀⸀ഊ ਀䈀攀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "sclark55 at rogers.com" ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Activities for a small shire ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㌀ 䄀瀀爀 ㈀  㔀 ㄀㐀㨀㔀㘀㨀㈀㘀 ⴀ 㜀  ഊ ਀㸀 㸀 䴀愀礀戀攀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 栀攀爀攀 挀愀渀 瀀椀瀀攀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 愀渀 愀甀琀栀漀爀椀琀愀琀椀瘀攀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 愀渀搀 栀漀眀ഊ> > the SCA picked it up. (I've played a non-armored touch version.) ਀ഊhttp://www.bootsnall.com/cgi-bin/gt/travelstories/me/aug01buzkashi.shtml ਀ഊ> Here's a basic explanation on how the original game works, and it's name, ਀㸀 戀甀稀欀愀猀栀椀 漀爀 戀漀稀欀愀猀栀椀⸀ 䠀漀眀 匀䌀䄀 琀漀漀欀 椀琀 甀瀀 愀渀搀 洀漀搀椀昀椀攀搀 椀琀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀⸀ഊ ਀䄀猀 昀愀爀 愀猀 䤀 欀渀漀眀Ⰰ 匀䌀䄀 䈀漀甀稀栀欀愀猀栀椀 眀愀猀 搀攀瘀椀猀攀搀 戀礀 䐀甀欀攀 䘀椀渀瘀愀爀爀 搀攀 吀愀愀栀攀ഊand Baron Torbin of Amberhall sometime in the late 70s-early 80s. You ਀挀愀渀 爀攀愀搀 愀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀琀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 戀礀 䘀椀渀瘀愀爀爀 椀渀 吀䤀 ⌀㄀ ㈀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 ㄀㤀㤀㈀⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀挀椀搀攀渀琀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 爀攀愀搀 琀栀攀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀✀氀氀 昀椀渀搀 漀甀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 䴀甀爀瀀栀礀Ⰰഊthe original bouzhkashi sheep. Murphy is now retired, but is the ਀漀昀昀椀挀椀愀氀 䌀愀渀琀漀渀 漀昀 䔀漀昀漀爀眀椀挀 洀愀猀挀漀琀⸀  䠀攀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 爀攀猀椀搀攀猀 椀渀 洀礀ഊbasement. ਀ഊNicolaa ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㐀 一漀瘀 ㈀  㤀 ㄀ 㨀㈀㤀㨀 㠀 ⬀㄀   ഊFrom: Braddon Giles ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀䰀漀挀栀愀挀崀 吀漀琀愀氀氀礀 昀爀椀瘀漀氀漀甀猀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 琀漀瀀椀挀ഊTo: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list" ਀ऀ㰀氀漀挀栀愀挀 愀琀 氀漀挀栀愀挀⸀猀挀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㈀  㤀⼀㄀㄀⼀㈀㌀ 䰀攀渀攀栀愀渀 㰀氀攀渀攀栀愀渀 愀琀 漀甀爀⸀渀攀琀⸀愀甀㸀㨀ഊ<<< ... we used to play bocce... ਀䤀 洀甀猀琀 爀攀ⴀ椀渀琀爀漀搀甀挀攀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀℀ 䤀✀洀 猀甀爀攀 眀攀 挀愀渀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀渀漀渀 戀愀氀氀猀⸀ 䤀ഊwonder what was really used in period? You can buy aluminium bocce sets that ਀愀爀攀 氀椀最栀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 昀漀爀 椀渀搀漀漀爀 最愀洀攀猀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 漀爀搀椀渀愀爀礀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀 猀甀瀀瀀氀礀 猀琀漀爀攀猀 栀攀爀攀ഊin Tasmania. ਀ഊMaddie >>> ਀ഊWe play bocce on a semi regular basis in the North. It is a lovely ਀瀀愀爀欀 最愀洀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 洀漀爀攀 猀琀甀瀀椀搀 琀栀攀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 洀漀爀攀 昀甀渀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀ഊgets. We use the modern aluminium balls, and wink. ਀ഊIf you find the bright aluminium grates on your period sensibilities ਀琀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 琀甀爀渀 眀漀漀搀 椀渀琀漀 戀愀氀氀猀⸀ 唀猀攀 愀 搀攀渀猀攀 栀愀爀搀眀漀漀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 猀漀愀欀ഊthe suckers in a vegetable oil, like linseed oil. That makes them ਀栀攀愀瘀椀攀爀 愀渀搀 琀漀甀最栀攀爀⸀ 䐀漀渀✀琀 甀猀攀 愀 氀椀最栀琀 眀漀漀搀 氀椀欀攀 瀀椀渀攀 甀渀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀ഊthe balls smashed and chipped. It is going to happen anyway, but you ਀搀漀渀✀琀 眀愀渀琀 椀琀 琀漀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀 昀椀爀猀琀 琀椀洀攀 漀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 䤀 栀愀搀 洀礀 挀栀漀椀挀攀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 戀愀氀氀猀 昀爀漀洀 戀漀砀 爀漀漀琀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀ഊwood of choice for golf balls in period, but there isn't much of that ਀愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀琀 愀 氀漀眀 瀀爀椀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀䜀漀漀搀 最愀洀椀渀最℀ഊ ਀䜀椀氀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:41:37 +1000 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀爀愀搀搀漀渀 䜀椀氀攀猀 㰀戀爀愀搀搀漀渀最椀氀攀猀 愀琀 最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Lochac] Bocce and bowling ਀吀漀㨀 ∀吀栀攀 匀栀愀洀戀氀攀猀㨀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 䰀漀挀栀愀挀 洀愀椀氀椀渀最 氀椀猀琀∀ഊ ਀ഊSadly cricket isn't period. Croquet is nearly period. Shinty (which is ਀昀椀攀氀搀 栀漀挀欀攀礀 眀椀琀栀 愀琀琀椀琀甀搀攀⤀ 椀猀 愀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀猀 搀椀爀琀⸀ 䜀漀氀昀 椀猀 爀椀最栀琀 椀渀 ⴀഊStefan, do you have any articles on golf? I have one ready to go. ਀ഊPolo has an ancient heritage, and many of the equestrian cultures play ਀猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 最愀洀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 洀漀渀最漀氀猀 栀愀瘀攀 愀  洀漀甀渀琀攀搀 最愀洀攀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 漀戀樀攀挀琀椀瘀攀 椀猀ഊa sheep, and the side that has *most* of the sheep at the end is the ਀眀椀渀渀攀爀Ⰰ 渀漀眀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 愀 最愀洀攀℀ഊ ਀䜀椀氀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀㈀  㤀⼀㄀㄀⼀㈀㐀 匀琀攀昀愀渀 氀椀 刀漀甀猀 㰀匀琀攀昀愀渀氀椀刀漀甀猀 愀琀 愀甀猀琀椀渀⸀爀爀⸀挀漀洀㸀㨀ഊ<<< Is cricket period? I'd love to have an article on this if someone would be ਀椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 眀爀椀琀椀渀最 漀渀攀⸀ 伀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 洀椀最栀琀 栀攀氀瀀 琀漀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀猀 愀渀搀ഊthe rules to those such as most Americans who have never seen the game. ਀ഊWhat about polo? ਀ഊThanks, ਀匀琀攀昀愀渀 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:44:28 +1100 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䌀椀愀渀 䜀椀氀氀攀戀栀爀愀琀栀∀ 㰀洀渀椀攀洀愀渀渀 愀琀 氀愀戀礀爀椀渀琀栀⸀渀攀琀⸀愀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Lochac] Bocce and bowling ਀吀漀㨀 ∀吀栀攀 匀栀愀洀戀氀攀猀㨀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 䰀漀挀栀愀挀 洀愀椀氀椀渀最 氀椀猀琀∀ഊ ਀ഊ<<< Is cricket period? I'd love to have an article on this if someone ਀眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 眀爀椀琀椀渀最 漀渀攀⸀ 伀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 洀椀最栀琀 栀攀氀瀀 琀漀ഊexplain the game and the rules to those such as most Americans who ਀栀愀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀 猀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀⸀ 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀吀攀挀栀渀椀挀愀氀氀礀 礀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 眀攀氀氀 搀攀瘀攀氀漀瀀攀搀 猀攀琀 漀昀 爀甀氀攀猀ഊThe earliest direct reference to it in text is (to quote the Oxford ਀䐀椀挀琀椀漀渀愀爀礀⤀㨀ഊ ਀㄀㔀㤀㠀 䜀甀椀氀搀 䴀攀爀挀栀愀渀琀 䈀欀⸀ ⠀䴀匀⸀ 椀渀 䜀甀椀氀搀昀漀爀搀 䈀漀爀漀甀最栀 刀攀挀漀爀搀猀⤀Ⰰ 䨀漀栀渀 䐀攀渀眀椀挀欀ഊof Guldeford..one of the Queenes Majesties Coroners of the County of ਀匀甀爀爀攀礀 戀攀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀最攀 漀昀 昀礀昀琀礀 愀渀搀 渀礀渀攀 礀攀愀爀攀猀 漀爀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀戀漀甀琀攀⸀⸀猀愀椀琀栀ഊupon his oath that hee hath known the parcell of land..for the space of ਀䘀礀昀琀礀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀渀搀 洀漀爀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀⸀⸀猀愀椀琀栀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀攀 戀攀椀渀最 愀 猀挀栀漀氀氀愀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䘀爀攀攀ഊschoole of Guldeford, hee and several of his fellowes did runne and play ਀琀栀攀爀攀 愀琀 䌀爀攀挀欀攀琀琀 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 瀀氀愀椀攀猀⸀ 嬀䌀昀⸀ 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 䜀甀椀氀搀昀漀爀搀 ⠀㄀㠀 ㄀⤀ ㈀ ㌀⸀崀ഊ ਀匀攀攀 愀氀猀漀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀攀渀⸀眀椀欀椀瀀攀搀椀愀⸀漀爀最⼀眀椀欀椀⼀䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀开漀昀开挀爀椀挀欀攀琀开琀漀开㄀㜀㈀㔀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀ഊcan trust Wikipedia. ਀ഊSo it is within the SCA period but little is known of rules within the ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䴀漀爀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀 愀爀攀 漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀 愀猀 昀漀爀 戀攀愀挀栀 挀爀椀挀欀攀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 愀渀 䄀甀猀猀椀攀 瀀愀猀琀ⴀ琀椀洀攀 氀椀欀攀 戀愀挀欀礀愀爀搀 挀爀椀挀欀攀琀⸀ഊIt is not a serious variation. There was a TV series of matches recently ਀猀琀愀爀爀椀渀最 爀攀琀椀爀攀搀 挀爀椀挀欀攀琀攀爀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 攀瘀攀渀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 樀甀猀琀 愀 氀愀爀欀⸀ഊ ਀䌀椀愀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:44:59 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䤀愀渀 圀栀椀琀挀栀甀爀挀栀 㰀椀愀渀⸀眀栀椀琀挀栀甀爀挀栀 愀琀 最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [Lochac] Cricket is period ਀吀漀㨀 ∀吀栀攀 匀栀愀洀戀氀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 䰀漀挀栀愀挀 洀愀椀氀椀渀最 氀椀猀琀∀ 㰀氀漀挀栀愀挀 愀琀 猀挀愀⸀漀爀最⸀愀甀㸀ഊ ਀吀漀 焀甀漀琀攀 䨀漀栀渀 匀欀攀氀琀漀渀Ⰰ 䠀攀渀爀礀 嘀䤀䤀䤀 漀昀 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀✀猀 倀漀攀琀 䰀愀甀爀攀愀琀攀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 栀攀ഊwas having a bit of a whinge about Flemish weavers in his The Image of ਀䤀瀀漀挀爀椀猀椀攀ഊ ਀∀伀 氀漀爀搀攀 漀昀 䤀瀀漀挀爀椀琀攀猀ഊNowe shut vpp your wickettes ਀䄀渀搀 挀氀愀瀀攀 琀漀 礀漀甀爀 挀氀椀挀欀攀琀琀攀猀℀ഊA! Farewell, kings of crekettes!," ਀ഊhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/4883752/Strewth-Cricket-is-a-foreign-import---according-to-new-Australian-research.html ਀ഊAlso, see this picture, dated at 1344. It's a bat, and a ball, and ਀猀漀洀攀 挀氀攀爀椀挀愀氀 琀礀瀀攀猀 搀漀椀渀最 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀洀 猀甀爀攀 䌀栀甀爀挀栀 爀攀昀漀爀洀攀爀猀⸀ 眀漀甀氀搀ഊdisapprove of ਀ഊhttp://slumberland.org/sca/articles/stoolball.html ਀ഊThis article is now a little dated ... ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀猀挀愀⸀漀爀最⸀愀甀⼀氀愀甀爀攀氀猀⼀挀爀椀挀欀攀琀⸀栀琀洀 ⸀⸀⸀ 戀甀琀 椀琀✀猀 戀礀 琀眀漀 漀氀搀ഊLochacers, so you should read it. ਀ഊSo, basically, get yourself some sort of bat, and a ball, and use the ਀戀愀琀 琀漀 猀琀漀瀀 琀栀攀 戀愀氀氀 最漀椀渀最 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 最愀琀攀 㨀⤀ഊ ਀䄀渀琀漀渀 搀攀 匀琀漀挀ഊAt Rowany ਀堀堀䤀䤀䤀䤀 一漀瘀攀洀戀爀攀 最⬀猀ഊ ਀ഊate: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:14:15 +1100 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀琀攀瘀攀 刀漀礀氀愀渀挀攀 㰀爀漀礀氀愀渀挀攀 愀琀 挀漀爀瀀氀椀渀欀⸀挀漀洀⸀愀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Lochac] Bocce and bowling ਀吀漀㨀 吀栀攀 匀栀愀洀戀氀攀猀㨀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 䰀漀挀栀愀挀 洀愀椀氀椀渀最 氀椀猀琀 㰀氀漀挀栀愀挀 愀琀 氀漀挀栀愀挀⸀猀挀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䌀爀椀挀欀攀琀 椀猀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 最愀洀攀Ⰰ 栀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 瀀氀愀礀攀搀 琀漀搀愀礀 氀漀漀欀猀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 ഊlike a game period cricket as the FA Cup final does to a game of period ਀昀漀漀琀戀愀氀氀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀渀琀椀渀甀漀甀猀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 最愀洀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀眀攀愀欀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 ഊrules and equipment from C13c to the present. ਀ഊhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cricket refers to clear ਀搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 最愀洀攀猀 椀渀 䌀㄀㘀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀漀爀昀椀渀渀ഊ ਀䈀爀愀搀搀漀渀 䜀椀氀攀猀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ<<< Sadly cricket isn't period. Croquet is nearly period. Shinty (which is ਀昀椀攀氀搀 栀漀挀欀攀礀 眀椀琀栀 愀琀琀椀琀甀搀攀⤀ 椀猀 愀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀猀 搀椀爀琀⸀ 䜀漀氀昀 椀猀 爀椀最栀琀 椀渀 ⴀഊ ਀䜀椀氀攀猀⸀ 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. Harris sports-msg Page 22 of 23 ਀ഊ