golf-msg - 7/16/98 Medieval golf. History of golf. NOTE: See also the files: Scotland-msg, sports-msg, games-msg, taverns-msg, Ireland-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ The following is excerpted from a timeline of Golf History I found on a website. - editor. ------------ 1353 The first recorded reference to chole, the probable antecedent of golf. It is a derivative of hockey played in Flanders (Belgium). 1421 A Scottish regiment aiding the French against the English at the Siege of Bauge is introduced to the game of chole. Hugh Kennedy, Robert Stewart and John Smale, three of the identified players, are credited with introducing the game in Scotland. 1457 Golf, along with football, is banned by the Scots Parliament of James II because it has interfered with military training for the wars against the English. 1470 The ban on golf is reaffirmed by the Parliament of James III. 1491 The golf ban is affirmed again by Parliament, this time under King James IV. 1502 With the signing of the Treaty of Glasgow between England and Scotland, the ban on golf is lifted. James IV makes the first recorded purchase of golf equipment, a set of clubs from a bow-maker in Perth, Scotland. 1513 Queen Catherine of England, in a letter to Cardinal Wolsey, refers to the growing popularity of golf in England. 1527 The first commoner recorded as a golfer is Sir Robert Maule, described as playing on Barry Links (near the modern-day Carnoustie). 1552 The first recorded evidence of golf at St. Andrews. 1553 The Archbishop of St. Andrews issues a decree giving the local populace the right to play golf on the links at St. Andrews. 1567 Mary, Queen of Scots, seen playing golf shortly after the death of her husband Lord Darnley, is the first known female golfer. 1589 Golf is banned in the Blackfriars Yard, Glasgow. This is the earliest reference to golf in the west of Scotland. 1592 The City of Edinburgh bans golfing at Leith on 1592 [on] Sunday "in tyme of sermonis." 1618 Invention of the feathery ball. 1618 King James VI and I confirms the right of the populace to play golf on Sundays. Copyright 1995, InterZine Productions Inc. All Rights Reserved. --------- From: "Glen Marshall" Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Period Golf ? Date: 8 Mar 1997 22:28:05 GMT Carl W. Lemke wrote > Has anyone done any research on period golf, or know of any good > reference works. Golf was certainly a 16th century activity. It has > occurred to me that some of us might make period clubs and set up a > course and play by period rules at an event. Don't anyone tell my > lady about this!! Yes. Check-out references to the Bruntsfield Links in Edinburgh. This is a park that is the remains of an ancient golf course - some say the oldest in Scotland and, possibly, elsewhere. It is maintained as a small (3-hole, I think) course, with grass at the height that sheep would graze it to. The equipment was a leather ball stffed with bird feathers and one club that is not unlike today's woods. The object was to hit a series of flagpoles, much like the flags in the holes today. You can still play this ancient form at Bruntsfield Links. And there is the Old Golf tavern next to the links, dating from 1495. Personally, I don't play golf but I *did* get drunk at the tavern back in 1980. From: "AJ" Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Period Golf ? Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 12:45:13 GMT Glen Marshall wrote: > Carl W. Lemke wrote > > Has anyone done any research on period golf, or know of any good > > reference works. Golf was certainly a 16th century activity. It has > > occurred to me that some of us might make period clubs and set up a > > course and play by period rules at an event. Don't anyone tell my > > lady about this!! > > Yes. Check-out references to the Bruntsfield Links in Edinburgh. This is > a park that is the remains of an ancient golf course - some say the oldest > in Scotland and, possibly, elsewhere. It is maintained as a small (3-hole, > I think) course, with grass at the height that sheep would graze it to. > The equipment was a leather ball stffed with bird feathers and one club > that is not unlike today's woods. The object was to hit a series of > flagpoles, much like the flags in the holes today. You can still play this > ancient form at Bruntsfield Links. And there is the Old Golf tavern next > to the links, dating from 1495. Hi there. I am writing this in Edinburgh just before going out to our weekly Fighter Practise on Bruntsfield Links. The course there is a "Pitch & Putt" or very short hole course, with no bunkers. The total area of it is probably about 200 by 200 yards. It has got many more than 3 holes, though. I've never actually counted. The grass is mown short as on a normal golf course, but with the usual style of greens. (I'm not a golfer myself, I just know the place well.) It's part of a public park on the south side of the city which was originally just outside the city walls. The low-lying part was originally marsh, now drained, which ran up to the wall & protected it on that side. It is still a byelaw that it is forbidden to cross the park in a boat after dark, allegedly! Originally the only reason to do this would have been to sneak in or out of the city. The other interesting historical aspect of the area is the large number of depressions which I have been told are old Plague Pits, where the bodies were disposed of. We keep our Tetanus shots up to date... I saw an article in a local newspaper a few years ago in a series on "The History of Your Neighbourhood" which said that the Scottish army was mustered on Bruntsfield Links before marching south to their eventual defeat at Flodden. There are apparently letters from the Army Commanders complaining of their difficulty in getting the troops to drill because they were all off playng Golf! Let this be a warning to anyone planning on setting up a golf course at a war! The Old Golfe Tavern is a very good Pub, with decent real ales. I have frequently imbibed there. Hope this was interesting to someone. Other pub recommendations availiable to anyone planning to visit! -- AJ aj at lothene.demon.co.uk Alastair Saunders Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: shafer at spdcc.com (Mary Shafer) Subject: Re: Period Golf ? Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:03:06 GMT In article <01bc2c0f$d8a11c20$4b9174cf at marshall_glen12.shrmed.com>, Glen Marshall wrote: >Carl W. Lemke wrote >> Has anyone done any research on period golf, or know of any good >> reference works. Golf was certainly a 16th century activity. It has >> occurred to me that some of us might make period clubs and set up a >> course and play by period rules at an event. Don't anyone tell my >> lady about this!! > >Yes. Check-out references to the Bruntsfield Links in Edinburgh. This is >a park that is the remains of an ancient golf course - some say the oldest >in Scotland and, possibly, elsewhere. It is maintained as a small (3-hole, >I think) course, with grass at the height that sheep would graze it to. >The equipment was a leather ball stffed with bird feathers and one club >that is not unlike today's woods. The object was to hit a series of >flagpoles, much like the flags in the holes today. You can still play this >ancient form at Bruntsfield Links. And there is the Old Golf tavern next >to the links, dating from 1495. Personally, I don't play golf but I *did* >get drunk at the tavern back in 1980. "Featheries", the feather-stuffed balls, were not the original, period ball that the Dutch brought to Britain. The original balls were made of elm. I think featheries are post period, but golf, with elm balls, isn't. The clubs were carved from a single piece of wood. I'll rummage around and see if I can come up with some real dates here. By the way, golf courses are much easier to understand if you realize that the originals were waste ground near the sea, in Scotland being glacial morraines. Hence the ponds (water hazards) and exposed pockets of sand and gravel (sand traps) all around, the small areas of fertile ground kept trimmed right down by sheep (the greens), the waste ground covered with inedible plants (the roughs) and more edible but not preferred plants (the fairways), sometimes cut for hay. -- Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR shafer at ursa-major.spdcc.com URL http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html From: herveus at access4.digex.net (Michael and MJ Houghton) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Period Golf ? Date: 11 Mar 1997 08:36:26 -0500 Carl W. Lemke wrote: >Has anyone done any research on period golf, or know of any good >reference works. Golf was certainly a 16th century activity. It has >occurred to me that some of us might make period clubs and set up a >course and play by period rules at an event. Don't anyone tell my >lady about this!! > >Walthari >Carl W. Lemke Torquil MacTaggart the Steadfast (Atlantia) has done some research into period golf. He taught a class on it at University of Atlantia a couple of years ago, and registered the first piece of armory with golf clubs on it. I don't know if he reads this newsgroup, or even if he is online. Herveus Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: shafer at spdcc.com (Mary Shafer) Subject: Re: Period Golf ? Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:50:28 GMT Mary Shafer wrote: >"Featheries", the feather-stuffed balls, were not the original, period >ball that the Dutch brought to Britain. The original balls were made >of elm. I think featheries are post period, but golf, with elm balls, >isn't. The clubs were carved from a single piece of wood. > >I'll rummage around and see if I can come up with some real dates >here. OK, here's some more definite information. Featheries, made from bull's hide that had been soaked in alum and stuffed with goose feathers that had been boiled to soften them, started being used in the 17th or early 18th century. Before that, elm balls, which were being imported from the Netherlands by the 16th century, were used. The feathery could go about twice as far as a wooden ball, which would rarely cover more than 100 yards when struck. Featheries cost at least ten times what elm balls did; a skilled craftsman could only make four a day. The feathery was replaced by the gutta percha ball beginning in 1848. Golf has been played in St. Andrews "far back into the mists of the 12th century". The oldest club known to be in existance is a wooden play-club made by Samuel Cosser in 1760. This club is in the collection of the Royal & Ancient Golf Club in St. Andrews. -- Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR shafer at ursa-major.spdcc.com URL http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html Edited by Mark S. Harris golf-msg 6