tents-weather-msg - 3/28/01 ਀ഊHow various tent styles have fared in bad weather. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: pavilions-msg, tent-setup-msg, tent-fabrics-msg, p-tents-msg, tent-alt-msg, tent-care-msg, tent-ps-msg, yurts-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 漀樀椀搀⸀眀戀猀琀㠀㐀㔀 愀琀 砀攀爀漀砀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀伀爀椀氀攀攀 䤀爀攀氀愀渀搀ⴀ䐀攀氀昀猀⤀ഊSubject: Re: (those darn )viking tents ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 堀攀爀漀砀 䌀漀爀瀀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 圀攀戀猀琀攀爀 一夀ഊDate: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 17:21:30 GMT ਀ഊhendle1 at aol.com (Hendle 1) writes: ਀㸀 䄀 眀攀搀最攀 琀攀渀琀 椀猀 愀 琀攀渀琀 猀攀琀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 琀眀漀 瀀漀氀攀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀猀 眀椀琀栀 樀甀猀琀 琀栀攀ഊ> canvas itself and two ropes supporting it. A Viking tent utilizes a ਀㸀 爀椀搀最攀瀀漀氀攀Ⰰ 琀眀漀 愀渀最氀攀搀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀猀 愀琀 攀愀挀栀 攀渀搀Ⰰ 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 琀漀瀀瀀攀搀 戀礀 挀愀爀瘀攀搀ഊ> dragonheads, a support across the entrances front and back connecting the ਀㸀 昀漀漀琀 漀昀 攀愀挀栀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀渀最氀攀搀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀猀 愀渀搀 愀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最 漀渀 攀愀挀栀 猀椀搀攀ഊ> from the front foot to the back. The whole point of the Viking tents, ਀㸀 戀攀礀漀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 戀攀最椀渀渀椀渀最猀 愀猀 愀 猀愀椀氀 愀渀搀 昀椀瘀攀 漀愀爀猀Ⰰ 眀愀猀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 挀漀甀氀搀ഊ> be lifted as a complete unit from onboard to shore and back again without ਀㸀 搀椀猀愀猀猀攀洀戀氀礀⸀ 䄀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀搀瘀愀渀琀愀最攀猀 漀昀 椀琀 椀渀 漀甀爀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最ഊ> experience today...and unlike a dome tent it doesn't roll away in a big ਀㸀 最甀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀唀洀Ⰰ 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 㨀 ⤀ 圀攀 栀愀搀 愀 瘀椀欀椀渀最 琀攀渀琀 椀渀 漀甀爀 挀愀洀瀀 漀渀攀 礀攀愀爀 愀琀 ഊPennsic that *did* roll away in a big gust. Landed upside ਀搀漀眀渀 椀渀 愀 渀攀椀最栀戀漀爀椀渀最 挀愀洀瀀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 愀 最攀愀爀 琀攀渀琀⸀  䰀攀昀琀ഊthe lady's stuff sitting in the middle of the camp ਀最攀琀琀椀渀最 眀攀琀⸀  䄀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 搀愀洀愀最攀 椀琀 猀甀猀琀愀椀渀攀搀 眀愀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀ഊthe carved beasties on the top broke off. The gear tent, other ਀琀栀愀渀 戀攀椀渀最 猀焀甀愀猀栀攀搀Ⰰ 眀愀猀 漀欀愀礀⸀  圀攀 眀攀爀攀 愀氀氀 瘀攀爀礀 栀愀瀀瀀礀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 ഊhadn't landed on a tent with someone inside. ਀ഊWhen she found out what happened (and after the initial shock), ਀栀攀爀 昀椀爀猀琀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀 眀愀猀 愀氀漀渀最 琀栀攀 氀椀渀攀猀 漀昀 ∀䤀 愀猀欀攀搀 栀椀洀 椀昀 椀琀ഊshould be staked down and he said no!" ਀ഊOrianna ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: ederd at bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Dani Eder) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 琀攀渀琀猀 戀氀漀眀椀渀最 愀眀愀礀 眀愀猀㨀 ⠀琀栀漀猀攀 搀愀爀渀 ⤀瘀椀欀椀渀最 琀攀渀琀猀ഊOrganization: The Boeing Company ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ 㘀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㔀 ㈀　㨀㐀㔀㨀　㐀 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀漀樀椀搀⸀眀戀猀琀㠀㐀㔀 愀琀 砀攀爀漀砀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀伀爀椀氀攀攀 䤀爀攀氀愀渀搀ⴀ䐀攀氀昀猀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>Um, actually : ) We had a viking tent in our camp one year at ਀㸀倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 琀栀愀琀 ⨀搀椀搀⨀ 爀漀氀氀 愀眀愀礀 椀渀 愀 戀椀最 最甀猀琀⸀  䰀愀渀搀攀搀 甀瀀猀椀搀攀ഊ... ਀㸀圀栀攀渀 猀栀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀攀搀 ⠀愀渀搀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 椀渀椀琀椀愀氀 猀栀漀挀欀⤀Ⰰഊ>her first comment was along the lines of "I asked him if it ਀㸀猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 猀琀愀欀攀搀 搀漀眀渀 愀渀搀 栀攀 猀愀椀搀 渀漀℀∀ഊ ਀䈀攀椀渀最 愀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 攀渀最椀渀攀攀爀 愀渀搀 愀渀 匀䌀䄀 琀攀渀琀 洀愀欀攀爀Ⰰ 栀攀爀攀 椀猀 猀漀洀攀 猀琀甀昀昀ഊabout tents and stakes: ਀ഊA 50 mile per hour wind can generate a force of about 10 pounds ਀瀀攀爀 猀焀甀愀爀攀 昀漀漀琀⸀  䘀漀爀 洀漀猀琀 琀攀渀琀猀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀　 琀椀洀攀猀 琀栀攀 眀攀椀最栀琀ഊof the tent itself. Thus unless you have a large amount of gear ਀眀攀椀最栀椀渀最 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 搀漀眀渀 䄀一䐀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 猀栀攀搀猀 眀椀渀搀 昀漀爀挀攀猀 攀愀猀椀氀礀Ⰰ 礀漀甀爀ഊtent can blow away if not staked down. Even if your tent is staked ਀搀漀眀渀Ⰰ 椀昀 渀漀琀 猀琀愀欀攀搀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀氀礀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀 挀愀渀 氀椀昀琀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 昀漀爀ഊthe tent poles to fall down. ਀ഊTent stakes use the resistance of the earth to maintain position, ਀猀漀 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 栀漀眀 猀漀昀琀 琀栀攀 攀愀爀琀栀 椀猀 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 甀猀攀 戀椀最最攀爀ഊstakes on a given site. My rule of thumb is if I can pound my ਀渀漀爀洀愀氀 猀琀愀欀攀猀 ⠀㌀⼀㠀∀ 砀 ㄀㈀∀ 猀瀀椀欀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀猀攀 氀漀漀欀 氀椀欀攀 戀椀最 渀愀椀氀猀⤀ 椀渀ഊwith less than 4 hammer blows, I need to use the big stakes ਀⠀㄀⼀㈀∀ 砀 ㄀㠀∀ 爀攀戀愀爀⤀⸀  ഊ ਀伀渀 洀礀 漀瘀愀氀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 瀀漀氀攀猀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 ㄀㈀∀ 搀漀眀攀氀 猀琀椀挀欀椀渀最 甀瀀ഊthrough the canvas (that holds the pennants), so the wind can't ਀氀椀昀琀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 猀氀椀瀀 漀昀昀 瀀漀氀攀⸀  䤀 愀氀猀漀 洀愀搀攀 愀 㘀∀砀㄀㈀∀ഊplywood base for the main poles that (a) keeps them from sinking ਀椀渀琀漀 猀漀昀琀 最爀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀漀漀猀攀渀 最甀礀 爀漀瀀攀 琀攀渀猀椀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 ⠀戀⤀ഊlets me put stakes into the base of the main poles so they can't ਀猀栀椀昀琀 猀椀搀攀眀愀礀猀 愀渀搀 昀愀氀氀 搀漀眀渀 ⠀攀瘀攀渀 椀昀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 爀甀渀猀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀洀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 最甀礀 爀漀瀀攀猀 ⠀㌀ 琀漀 攀愀挀栀 洀愀椀渀 瀀漀氀攀⤀ 琀栀愀琀 欀攀攀瀀ഊthe poles in place, I have stake loops every 3 feet along the ਀戀愀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀⸀  唀猀甀愀氀氀礀 䤀 甀猀攀 栀愀氀昀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 ⠀㄀㈀ 漀甀琀 漀昀 ㈀㐀⤀⸀ഊIf you figure that under normal circumstances each stake will resist ਀㄀　　 氀戀 漀昀 氀椀渀攀 琀攀渀猀椀漀渀 ⠀戀愀猀攀搀 漀渀 栀漀眀 栀愀爀搀 椀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 瀀甀氀氀 琀栀攀洀ഊout), that I have 20 stakes total in the ground (6 guy rope, 12 ਀愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 ㈀ 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 瀀漀氀攀猀⤀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 䤀 挀愀渀 爀攀猀椀猀琀ഊ2000 lb of wind load. Since my tent is 9 ft high and about 22 ਀眀椀搀攀 漀渀 愀瘀攀爀愀最攀Ⰰ 愀 㔀　 洀瀀栀 眀椀渀搀 挀愀渀 最攀渀攀爀愀琀攀 ㈀　　　 氀戀 漀昀 昀漀爀挀攀Ⰰ 猀漀ഊthat is just enough staking (if a serious stormis coming, I put in ਀洀漀爀攀 猀琀愀欀攀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䄀琀 ㈀㔀琀栀 礀攀愀爀 挀攀氀攀戀爀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀渀 眀椀渀搀猀 眀攀爀攀 栀椀最栀 攀渀漀甀最栀ഊto bend one of the metal frame pieces, but the stakes held up. ਀ഊSo my rule of thumb would be 1 12" spike for each 10 square feet ਀漀昀 猀椀搀攀 愀爀攀愀 甀渀搀攀爀 渀漀爀洀愀氀 挀椀爀挀甀洀猀琀愀渀挀攀猀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 洀漀爀攀 昀漀爀 猀漀昀琀 最爀漀甀渀搀ഊor really nasty weather. ਀ഊDaniel ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: ab575 at FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rebecca Cairns) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 ⠀琀栀漀猀攀 搀愀爀渀 ⤀瘀椀欀椀渀最 琀攀渀琀猀ഊOrganization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ 㘀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㔀 ㄀㠀㨀㌀　㨀㄀㌀ 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀㸀 䄀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀搀瘀愀渀琀愀最攀猀 漀昀 椀琀 椀渀 漀甀爀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最ഊ> experience today...and unlike a dome tent it doesn't roll away in a big ਀㸀 最甀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀䐀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀猀 爀漀氀氀 愀眀愀礀㼀  一漀琀 椀渀 洀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀㨀ഊ ਀䨀甀氀礀 㠀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㤀㐀Ⰰ ㄀㄀㨀　　 瀀⸀洀⸀Ⰰ 䄀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀✀猀 䐀愀礀 伀昀昀Ⰰ 匀欀爀愀攀氀椀渀最 䄀氀琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊA tornado and torrential rains ripped through our campsite. ਀ഊScorecard: ਀   吀䔀一吀 吀夀倀䔀                                   䰀䄀匀吀䔀䐀ഊ Big Circular Period Pavillion 2 seconds ਀   匀洀愀氀氀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 䄀ⴀ䘀爀愀洀攀                        䌀爀甀猀栀攀搀 戀礀 昀愀氀氀椀渀最 琀爀攀攀ഊ A-Frame Dining Fly 2 seconds ਀   刀攀最甀氀愀爀 䘀爀愀洀攀 吀攀渀琀                          匀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀ഊ 6-Person Dome Tent (ours!) Stayed up and stayed put !!! ਀ഊLuckily, no one was seriously hurt (not even the 16-year-old pinned under the ਀琀爀攀攀 椀渀 栀攀爀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 琀攀渀琀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 愀 琀攀渀琀 琀漀 猀琀愀礀 唀倀 椀渀 愀 栀椀最栀 眀椀渀搀 椀猀 愀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 漀昀 愀攀爀漀搀礀渀愀洀椀挀猀 愀渀搀ഊflexibility. My experience says, the wind can't get a grip on the round ਀挀漀渀琀漀甀爀猀 漀昀 愀 搀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀 愀渀搀 椀琀猀 猀栀漀挀欀ⴀ挀漀爀搀攀搀 瀀漀氀攀猀 琀攀渀猀椀漀渀攀搀 戀礀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 椀琀猀攀氀昀ഊmake for excellent resilience against even the mightiest gusts. ਀ഊStaying PUT is a matter of solid pegging which is partly materials (size, ਀猀琀爀攀渀最琀栀 愀渀搀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀 漀昀 瀀攀最猀 愀渀搀 琀攀渀琀 氀漀漀瀀猀⤀ 愀渀搀 瀀愀爀琀氀礀 最爀漀甀渀搀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀攀渀挀礀ഊ(obviously, dry sand is not going to hold pegs as well as good solid earth or ਀挀氀愀礀⤀⸀  䈀甀琀Ⰰ 椀渀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 氀漀渀最攀爀 琀栀攀 瀀攀最Ⰰ 琀栀攀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 礀漀甀爀 挀栀愀渀挀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀猀欀 洀攀 椀昀 䤀 眀愀渀琀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 戀甀琀 愀 搀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀 愀昀琀攀爀 吀䠀䄀吀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 ℀℀℀ഊ*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* ਀⨀  匀䌀䄀㨀 䰀愀搀礀 䤀猀愀戀攀氀氀愀 伀愀欀眀漀漀搀         簀                                     ⨀ഊ* Barony of Skraeling Althing, | "I hear and I forget, * ਀⨀       䔀愀氀搀漀爀洀攀爀攀Ⰰ 䴀椀搀爀攀愀氀洀          簀       䤀 猀攀攀 愀渀搀 䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀Ⰰ         ⨀ഊ* MKA: Rebecca Cairns | I do and I understand." * ਀⨀       䬀愀渀愀琀愀Ⰰ 伀渀琀愀爀椀漀  䌀愀渀愀搀愀       簀                 ⴀ 䌀漀渀昀甀挀椀甀猀⸀        ⨀ഊ* NET: ab575 at FreeNet.carleton.ca | * ਀⨀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ⨀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 最氀㠀昀 愀琀 昀攀爀洀椀⸀挀氀愀猀⸀嘀椀爀最椀渀椀愀⸀䔀䐀唀 ⠀䜀爀攀最 䰀椀渀搀愀栀氀⤀ഊSubject: Re: (those darn )viking tents ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䐀攀瀀愀爀琀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 䄀猀琀爀漀渀漀洀礀Ⰰ 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 嘀椀爀最椀渀椀愀ഊDate: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:54:32 GMT ਀ഊRebecca Cairns wrote: ਀㸀䐀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀猀 爀漀氀氀 愀眀愀礀㼀  一漀琀 椀渀 洀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀㨀ഊ> ਀㸀䨀甀氀礀 㠀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㤀㐀Ⰰ ㄀㄀㨀　　 瀀⸀洀⸀Ⰰ 䄀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀✀猀 䐀愀礀 伀昀昀Ⰰ 匀欀爀愀攀氀椀渀最 䄀氀琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊ>A tornado and torrential rains ripped through our campsite. ਀㸀ഊ>Scorecard: ਀㸀   吀䔀一吀 吀夀倀䔀                                   䰀䄀匀吀䔀䐀ഊ> Big Circular Period Pavillion 2 seconds ਀㸀   匀洀愀氀氀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 䄀ⴀ䘀爀愀洀攀                        䌀爀甀猀栀攀搀 戀礀 昀愀氀氀椀渀最 琀爀攀攀ഊ> A-Frame Dining Fly 2 seconds ਀㸀   刀攀最甀氀愀爀 䘀爀愀洀攀 吀攀渀琀                          匀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀ഊ> 6-Person Dome Tent (ours!) Stayed up and stayed put !!! ਀ഊ2 years ago at Novice Tourney in Danville, Virginia, a squall line of ਀琀栀甀渀搀攀爀猀琀漀爀洀猀 栀椀琀 琀栀攀 猀椀琀攀⸀ 䴀礀 㘀ⴀ洀愀渀 搀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀 眀愀猀 瀀甀渀挀栀攀搀 椀渀 戀礀 愀ഊgust of wind: kind of like an umbrella being turned inside out. All of ਀洀礀 猀琀甀昀昀 眀愀猀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀氀礀 猀漀愀欀攀搀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 戀攀挀愀洀攀 愀 栀甀最攀ഊrain-collector. We then knocked down the rest of our tents (that's ਀攀愀猀礀 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 愀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 昀爀愀洀攀 琀攀渀琀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀椀搀 椀渀 漀甀爀 挀愀爀猀⸀ 䄀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀Ⰰഊwe left the pup tent up, and it survived. ਀ഊSo no, no tent is perfect in a storm, and dome tents can be done in by ਀愀 猀甀昀昀椀挀椀攀渀琀氀礀 洀椀最栀琀礀 最甀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䄀猀欀 洀攀 椀昀 䤀 眀愀渀琀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 戀甀琀 愀 搀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀 愀昀琀攀爀 吀䠀䄀吀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀 ℀℀℀ഊ ਀䤀 渀漀眀 挀愀洀瀀 椀渀 洀礀 琀爀甀猀琀礀 攀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀愀渀 䄀ⴀ昀爀愀洀攀Ⰰ 琀栀愀渀欀猀⸀ഊ ਀䜀爀攀最漀爀礀 䈀氀漀甀渀琀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 ⠀琀栀漀猀攀 搀愀爀渀 ⤀瘀椀欀椀渀最 琀攀渀琀猀ഊFrom: una at bregeuf.stonemarche.org (Honour Horne-Jaruk) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀　 䨀甀氀 㤀㔀 　㤀㨀㄀㄀㨀　㐀 䔀䐀吀ഊ ਀最愀爀瘀攀礀 愀琀 瀀漀漀栀戀攀愀爀⸀挀椀最⸀洀漀琀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䠀攀愀琀栀攀爀 䰀⸀ 䜀愀爀瘀攀礀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ> Rebecca Cairns wrote: ਀㸀 㸀䐀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀猀 爀漀氀氀 愀眀愀礀㼀  一漀琀 椀渀 洀礀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀㨀ഊ> > ਀㸀 㸀吀栀攀 愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 愀 琀攀渀琀 琀漀 猀琀愀礀 唀倀 椀渀 愀 栀椀最栀 眀椀渀搀 椀猀 愀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 漀昀 愀攀爀漀搀礀渀愀洀椀挀猀 ഊ> >flexibility. My experience says, the wind can't get a grip on the round ਀㸀 㸀挀漀渀琀漀甀爀猀 漀昀 愀 搀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀 愀渀搀 椀琀猀 猀栀漀挀欀ⴀ挀漀爀搀攀搀 瀀漀氀攀猀 琀攀渀猀椀漀渀攀搀 戀礀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 椀琀猀ഊ> >make for excellent resilience against even the mightiest gusts. ਀㸀 ഊ> During the big rainstorms last Pennsic, I was lying in my dome ਀㸀 琀攀渀琀 倀刀䄀夀䤀一䜀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 最漀 愀渀礀眀栀攀爀攀 愀渀搀 愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀攀搀 眀愀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊ> I'd get whacked by the tent top every once in a while. (Yes, while lying down ਀㸀 吀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 昀漀氀搀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 眀愀猀 昀氀愀琀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀ഊ> sprung right back up. Scary until you get used to it. :)) ਀㸀 䤀昀 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 愀 搀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀 猀琀愀欀攀搀 爀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 愀椀渀✀琀 愀ⴀ最漀椀渀✀ 渀漀眀栀攀爀攀⸀⸀⸀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 ⴀⴀ 䴀愀最最椀攀 䴀愀挀䬀攀渀稀椀攀ഊ ਀刀攀猀瀀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀㨀ഊA properly staked A-frame tent, with all its structural members in ਀瀀氀愀挀攀 ⠀吀栀愀琀✀猀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀愀渀琀ⴀ 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 氀攀愀瘀攀 漀甀琀 琀栀椀渀最猀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 攀渀搀 ഊboards) can, and will, withstand gale force 8 winds. (I know- I once watched ਀愀 ㌀　砀㄀㔀 ∀昀漀漀琀瀀爀椀渀琀∀ 洀漀搀攀氀 搀漀 猀漀⸀⤀ഊThen again, so will a _properly_ guy-roped and staked pavilion. The ਀瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 椀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 琀栀愀琀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 甀猀 搀漀渀✀琀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 甀瀀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀氀礀㬀 眀攀 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 ഊtend to skimp on the wall stakes. ਀吀栀攀 氀愀琀琀攀爀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 椀猀 洀愀搀攀 眀漀爀猀攀 戀礀 琀栀攀 猀栀漀眀攀爀ⴀ挀甀爀琀愀椀渀ⴀ栀漀漀欀 猀椀搀攀猀ഊtoo frequently seen on our SCAbomination "pavilions" -- Once those weak little ਀栀漀漀欀猀 氀攀琀 最漀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀漀渀最攀猀琀 瀀攀最猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀氀搀 眀漀渀✀琀 猀愀瘀攀 礀漀甀⸀ 䴀礀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀 琀漀瀀 ഊhas doubled- canvas ties to hold the sides on. My one regret is not ਀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀ⴀ漀爀搀攀爀椀渀最 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 琀椀攀猀 ㄀ 昀漀漀琀 愀瀀愀爀琀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀渀搀愀爀搀 ㌀⸀ഊHowever, if you frequently experience gale force 6 or higher winds, ਀礀漀甀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀ⴀ挀椀爀挀甀洀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 猀椀搀攀 瀀漀氀攀猀 开眀椀琀栀 ഊmatching ties on the wall fabric_ - or bowing to the high-wind champions and ਀猀眀椀琀挀栀椀渀最 琀漀 愀 夀甀爀琀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 最攀琀 眀椀渀搀猀 漀渀 琀栀漀猀攀 猀琀攀瀀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀挀愀爀攀 愀ഊtornado. ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 搀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 爀攀搀甀挀攀 琀栀攀 椀渀瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀猀 猀漀洀攀眀栀愀琀ഊby sewing extra guy loops to the outside of the rain fly, 2/3 of the way ਀甀瀀 攀愀挀栀 爀椀戀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 猀琀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 爀攀猀甀氀琀愀渀琀 攀砀琀爀愀 爀漀瀀攀猀 昀愀爀 攀渀漀甀最栀 漀甀琀 猀漀 琀栀攀礀ഊdon't touch the fabric. Of course, this massively increases your "footprint". ਀伀栀Ⰰ 眀攀氀氀⸀⸀⸀ഊAbove gale force six, nothing will save most sushades/awnings/ ਀搀椀渀椀渀最 昀氀礀猀⸀ 䔀瘀攀渀 椀昀 琀栀攀 瀀攀最猀 栀漀氀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀⸀ 䜀漀漀搀 琀椀瀀㨀 搀爀漀瀀 琀栀攀ഊfly, pull the pegs, add the ropes and pegs to your pavilion on the side the ਀猀琀漀爀洀 椀猀 挀漀洀椀渀最 椀渀 昀爀漀洀ⴀ 戀甀琀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀漀猀攀 瀀攀最猀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 ㌀ 昀攀攀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀氀搀 猀攀琀⸀ഊJust those 4 extra ropes can make a critical differance. ਀䄀渀搀 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 欀渀攀眀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 开渀攀瘀攀爀开 琀椀攀 漀渀攀 琀攀渀琀✀猀 爀漀瀀攀猀 琀漀 ഊanother tent's ropes, poles, or pegs... didn't you? ਀䘀漀爀 猀愀渀搀Ⰰ 甀猀攀 挀漀爀欀猀挀爀攀眀 搀漀最ⴀ挀栀愀椀渀 愀渀挀栀漀爀猀⸀ 䘀漀爀 搀攀攀瀀 猀愀渀搀Ⰰ 甀猀攀 最漀愀琀ⴀഊchain anchors. For either, double all ropes (staked seperately, of course) ਀愀渀搀 开渀攀瘀攀爀开 昀愀挀攀 愀 搀漀漀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀⸀ഊ...Can you tell I used to own a US Army hospital tent? ਀ഊ Yours in service to the Society- ਀                                ⠀䘀爀椀攀渀搀⤀ 䠀漀渀漀甀爀 䠀漀爀渀攀ⴀ䨀愀爀甀欀 刀⸀匀⸀䘀⸀ ഊ Alizaunde, Demoiselle de Bregeuf C.O.L. SCA ਀                                唀渀愀 圀椀挀挀愀 ⠀吀栀愀琀 倀椀挀琀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: caradoc at neta.com (John Groseclose) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: (those darn )viking tents ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㌀ 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㔀 　㤀㨀㈀㈀㨀㈀㌀ 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀愀戀㔀㜀㔀 愀琀 䘀爀攀攀一攀琀⸀䌀愀爀氀攀琀漀渀⸀䌀䄀 ⠀刀攀戀攀挀挀愀 䌀愀椀爀渀猀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㰀猀渀椀瀀㸀ഊ ਀㸀 䨀甀氀礀 㠀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㤀㐀Ⰰ ㄀㄀㨀　　 瀀⸀洀⸀Ⰰ 䄀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀✀猀 䐀愀礀 伀昀昀Ⰰ 匀欀爀愀攀氀椀渀最 䄀氀琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊ> A tornado and torrential rains ripped through our campsite. ਀㸀 ഊ> Scorecard: ਀㸀    吀䔀一吀 吀夀倀䔀                                   䰀䄀匀吀䔀䐀ഊ> Big Circular Period Pavillion 2 seconds ਀㸀    匀洀愀氀氀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 䄀ⴀ䘀爀愀洀攀                        䌀爀甀猀栀攀搀 戀礀 昀愀氀氀椀渀最 琀爀攀攀ഊ> A-Frame Dining Fly 2 seconds ਀㸀    刀攀最甀氀愀爀 䘀爀愀洀攀 吀攀渀琀                          匀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀ഊ> 6-Person Dome Tent (ours!) Stayed up and stayed put !!! ਀ഊ ਀ഊI was in a two-man dome tent during the "Great Estrella Hurricane" a few ਀礀攀愀爀猀 戀愀挀欀⸀ 䤀 眀愀猀 愀眀愀欀攀渀攀搀 愀琀 猀漀洀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀琀漀爀洀 戀礀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 眀攀琀ഊtouching my face: the roof. The winds were blowing hard enough to force ਀琀栀攀 瀀漀氀攀猀 漀瘀攀爀 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 琀攀渀琀 眀愀猀 昀氀漀瀀瀀攀搀 猀椀搀攀眀愀礀猀 氀椀欀攀 愀 洀甀昀昀椀渀ഊcap, but the floor never left the ground. Yes, the domes will weather ਀猀琀漀爀洀猀 椀昀 琀栀攀礀✀爀攀 猀琀愀欀攀搀 搀漀眀渀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀氀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 戀攀猀琀 渀漀琀 欀攀攀瀀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀洀ഊthat requires headspace more than a few inches tall. Especially if the ਀椀琀攀洀猀 愀爀攀 昀爀愀最椀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 眀攀愀琀栀攀爀攀搀 愀 眀椀渀搀猀琀漀爀洀 漀甀琀 愀琀 琀栀攀 䈀愀爀漀渀✀猀 圀愀爀 椀渀 吀椀爀 夀猀最椀琀栀爀 椀渀 愀 ㄀㔀✀砀㄀㔀✀ഊTentmasters' "Mitred Corner Octagon" where more than one unstaked dome ਀琀攀渀琀 琀漀漀欀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀椀爀Ⰰ 漀昀琀攀渀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 漀眀渀攀爀猀 戀攀氀漀渀最椀渀最猀 椀渀猀椀搀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 漀渀氀礀ഊproblem I found with the Tentmasters' tent was that I'd left the top two ਀挀漀爀渀攀爀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀 甀渀琀椀攀搀 琀漀 氀攀琀 愀椀爀 挀椀爀挀甀氀愀琀攀⸀ 䄀 眀椀渀搀 最甀猀琀 挀愀洀攀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀Ⰰഊand "boomed" the walls of the tent, just like sails. ਀ഊThe stakes held, the poles held, the ropes held. When I arose in the ਀洀漀爀渀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀搀樀愀挀攀渀琀 挀愀洀瀀猀椀琀攀猀 氀漀漀欀攀搀 氀椀欀攀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 栀愀搀 挀漀洀攀ഊthrough with a giant blender. Two dome tents had snapped their poles, and ਀猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 栀愀搀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 氀漀猀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 猀攀愀洀猀Ⰰ 氀攀愀瘀椀渀最 攀爀攀挀琀 昀爀愀洀攀眀漀爀欀猀 漀昀ഊfiberglass poles, but the tents had collapsed. ਀ഊAll in all, I prefer the Tentmasters' canvas: it'll stay up in darn near ਀愀渀礀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 眀攀愀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 眀漀爀爀礀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀ഊtouching your gear. The nylon tents tend to soak anything that comes into ਀琀栀攀 猀氀椀最栀琀攀猀琀 挀漀渀琀愀挀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀⸀ഊ-- ਀挀愀爀愀搀漀挀 愀琀 攀渀攀琀⸀渀攀琀 ⴀ 䨀漀栀渀 䜀爀漀猀攀挀氀漀猀攀 ⴀ 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀渀攀琀愀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀挀愀爀愀搀漀挀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: sbloch at adl15.adelphi.edu (Stephen Bloch) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: More onPeriod Tents ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㐀 䄀甀最 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㈀㄀㨀㔀㈀㨀㈀㘀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Adelphi University, Garden City, NY ਀ഊDRAGONS2 wrote: ਀㸀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 戀攀攀渀 琀漀氀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀昀 䤀 眀攀爀攀 琀漀 戀甀礀 愀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 猀栀漀甀氀搀ഊ>only buy a tentmaster. The reasoning behind this, I have been told, is ਀㸀琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀愀氀氀礀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 漀渀攀猀 氀攀昀琀 猀琀愀渀搀椀渀最 愀昀琀攀爀 戀愀搀ഊ>storms. ਀ഊThis is surely something of an exaggeration. The great majority of ਀琀攀渀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 氀攀昀琀 猀琀愀渀搀椀渀最 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀椀猀 礀攀愀爀✀猀 猀琀漀爀洀Ⰰ 椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊhomemade pavilions in our encampment. In fact, the ones I've seen ਀戀氀漀眀椀渀最 愀眀愀礀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 戀攀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 琀攀渀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 栀攀愀爀 昀攀攀搀戀愀挀欀 昀爀漀洀 漀琀栀攀爀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀 漀眀渀攀爀猀⸀ ഊ>What do you like and dislike about your pavilion, who's is it, what shape ਀㸀攀琀挀⸀  䤀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀氀礀 眀愀猀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀椀渀最 愀 爀攀挀琀愀渀最甀氀愀爀 漀渀攀 戀甀琀 眀愀猀 琀漀氀搀 琀栀攀 漀瘀愀氀ഊ>ones are better and easier to set up. What is your opinion? email me or ਀㸀瀀漀猀琀 栀攀爀攀 昀漀爀 愀氀氀 琀漀 猀攀攀⸀ഊ ਀伀甀爀猀 椀猀 愀渀 漀瘀愀氀Ⰰ ㄀㈀✀ 砀 ㄀㠀✀⸀  䤀琀 栀愀猀 琀眀漀 挀攀渀琀攀爀 瀀漀氀攀猀Ⰰ 渀漀 猀椀搀攀 瀀漀氀攀猀Ⰰഊand sixteen guy ropes. Counting fabric, poles, finials, rope, thread, ਀攀琀挀⸀  椀琀 挀漀猀琀 甀猀 猀漀洀攀眀栀攀爀攀 甀渀搀攀爀 ␀㔀　　 ⠀䤀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 愀搀搀攀搀 椀琀 甀瀀ഊprecisely). It fit, along with a week's worth of food, clothing, ਀洀甀猀椀挀愀氀 椀渀猀琀爀甀洀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ 椀渀琀漀 ⠀愀渀搀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀⤀ 愀 䘀漀爀搀 䔀猀挀漀爀琀⸀ 䤀琀 愀氀猀漀Ⰰഊof course, cost us many hours of design, cutting, sewing, splicing, ਀攀琀挀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 渀漀眀 眀攀 欀渀漀眀 愀 氀漀琀 洀漀爀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀攀渀琀猀 琀栀愀渀 眀攀 搀椀搀 戀攀昀漀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀                                        洀愀爀ⴀ䨀漀猀栀甀愀 椀戀渀ⴀ䔀氀攀愀稀愀爀 栀愀ⴀ匀栀愀氀椀戀ഊ-- ਀                                                 匀琀攀瀀栀攀渀 䈀氀漀挀栀ഊ sbloch at panther.adelphi.edu ਀                                         栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀愀搀攀氀瀀栀椀⸀攀搀甀⼀縀猀戀氀漀挀栀⼀ഊ Math/CS Dept, Adelphi University ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ 㘀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㐀㨀㔀㜀㨀㄀　 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: Dana Theis ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䤀一吀䔀刀一䔀吀㨀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: French Double Bell Tents ਀ഊI'd like to put in a plug for the double bell tents as well. After the ਀昀椀爀猀琀 渀椀最栀琀 漀昀 ∀戀椀最 眀椀渀搀猀∀ 愀琀 䜀圀圀䤀Ⰰ 洀礀 搀愀甀最栀琀攀爀✀猀 戀爀愀渀搀ⴀ渀攀眀 搀漀甀戀氀攀 戀攀氀氀 眀愀猀ഊthe only thing left standing in our encampment, and it continued to stand ਀甀瀀 樀甀猀琀 昀椀渀攀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀⸀  䤀✀洀 渀漀眀 氀甀猀琀椀渀最 愀昀琀攀爀 漀渀攀 氀椀欀攀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀夀氀氀愀爀椀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:32:32 MST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀吀爀椀猀栀 䬀瘀愀洀洀攀∀ 㰀氀愀搀礀漀昀琀栀攀爀漀猀攀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: ANST - pavilion flying and other summer sports ਀吀漀㨀 䄀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 樀甀猀琀 眀愀渀琀攀搀 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 愀 洀漀洀攀渀琀 栀攀爀攀 琀漀 戀爀愀最 漀渀 洀礀 渀攀眀攀猀琀 愀瀀瀀爀攀渀琀椀挀攀 䰀愀搀礀 ഊMarguerite of Spinning Winds Pavillions. ਀ഊAfter the WeatherLord storm this weekend, all of the tents she has made on ਀猀椀琀攀 眀攀爀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 猀琀愀渀搀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 椀渀猀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀猀 椀渀 洀礀 挀愀洀瀀 眀攀爀攀 ഊdry. ਀ഊI am proud of you girl! ਀ഊLarissa ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ琀攀渀琀猀ⴀ眀攀愀琀栀攀爀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 㜀 漀昀 㜀ഊ ਊ